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73,846 US soldiers killed in Gulf Wars

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73,846 US soldiers killed in Gulf WarsThe Department of Veterans Affairs reports 73 thousands of people killed in the wars in the Persian Gulf.

More veterans of the Gulf wars than veterans of Vietnam. You might be surprised. The truth is hidden behind the formalities. Here she is.

Easy to understand casualties in the Vietnam War. If a soldier died on a business trip, it was considered a military loss. On the memorial in Washington, DC, the names of the 58,195 dead in Vietnam are engraved.

But something strange happened with the war in Iraq. The Bush administration has done something dishonest, and it still lasts. They decided to report losses only under the condition
that the soldier was killed directly on the battlefield in Iraq.

The real numbers were hidden from the American public, just like the flag-covered coffins from the press. But now the numbers are available, and we hope that the Americans will be enraged by how much they were misled.

According to the Office
on veteran affairs, in May 2007, in their information system
there were reports on the wars in the Persian Gulf. These numbers are:

Total killed military: 73,846

* Losses among troops at bases (posts): 17,847

* Losses among troops outside bases (patrols, combat operations): 55,999

Wounding statistics are also terrifying:

Complaints against unknown diseases filed: 14,874

The total number of disabled people is 1,620,906

* Disability among troops at bases (posts): 407,911

* Disability among troops outside bases (patrols, combat operations): 1,212,995

The percentage of disability in the troops on the front line: 36 percent

It is clear that you can decide that this is another conspiracy theory.

There will be more deaths and mysteries.

More than 1,820 tons of radioactive nuclear materials (including enriched uranium) were blown up in Iraq only in the form of armor-piercing shells and in bombs dropped on fortifications. This is the most terrible environmental catastrophe made by human hands for the whole history. For comparison, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 64 kilograms of uranium. The nuclear holocaust organized by the United States is roughly equivalent to the 14 bombs dropped on Hiroshima.

Radioactive materials scattered by American troops will kill people in the Middle East for hundreds of years! That's how long the radioactive particles will harm everything around, penetrating into the human body. According to the estimates of scientists, nuclear materials scattered across Iraq will be enough to destroy a third of humanity. Although we could not find weapon mass destruction in Iraq, we brought them their own! The number of birth defects among Iraqi newborns has risen by a whopping 600 percent compared with the pre-war period. Defects are identical to effects.
radioactive poisoning. And these diseases occur in the civilian population of Iraq - the people we supposedly tried to “free”.
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek 18 January 2013 06: 39
    +8
    Although we were not able to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, we imported our own!

    Vladimir Vysotsky - "Truth and Lies".

    Hello to everyone hi
    1. YARY
      YARY 18 January 2013 06: 50
      +9
      Vanya good day!
      Once upon a time they will be presented in full, and so excuses will not penetrate!
      1. YARY
        YARY 18 January 2013 06: 54
        +4
        ... Only one thing is a pity - there are no figures on the emigrants who fought for the green card!
        And so good statistics - Pts sales nothing, I somehow became calmer!
        1. bask
          bask 18 January 2013 07: 16
          +7
          Quote: Ardent
          Pts sales nothing, I somehow became calmer!

          This is the statistics of the consumables. Who is carrying out the orders .. WHO IS LOSSING THEM 0000 I WANTED TO BE .... At last, they told me who unleashed these wars for their crimes. A new Nuremberg tribunal is needed ..
          1. Ross
            Ross 18 January 2013 08: 01
            +5
            bask,
            Greetings!
            You will have to answer for everything. the "reward" will find everyone in strict accordance with the law of cause and effect.
        2. Dmitriy69
          Dmitriy69 18 January 2013 07: 30
          +10
          Quote: Ardent
          And so good statistics - very good sales, I somehow became calmer!

          In general, I share the opinion, but I need to correct the author:
          us army used ammunition with depleted uranium. It is somehow not correct to compare directly with atomic bombs. Uranium-238 is also radioactive and very toxic and is essentially a waste of uranium enrichment. In short, the states have found a very cheap way to dispose of, just throw a thin layer somewhere away from you.
        3. Narkom
          Narkom 18 January 2013 07: 57
          +2
          and if even the loss of any Security Agencies to find out ...
        4. Region65
          Region65 18 January 2013 08: 26
          +3
          In fact, it should also be taken into account that the US government does not include the number of dead American mercenaries from private military companies in the "military losses", so there are much more democracy carriers who have sunk into oblivion in the Persian Gulf than 70 thousand.
      2. Vanek
        Vanek 18 January 2013 06: 55
        +3
        Quote: Ardent
        Someday they will present


        and we hope that the Americans will be furious because of how much they were misled.

        Well, it’s not in vain that they say: “Better is the bitter truth than ............

        Their deeds will still hurt them.
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 18 January 2013 13: 51
        0
        The US military released disappointing statistics: the loss of the US Army in hot spots does not compare with the number of suicides that occur in the armed forces of the country almost every day. The military command does not know how to cope with this terrible problem, the British television and radio company BBC reports.

        In late spring and early summer this year, 154 American servicemen committed suicide. Last year, the number of "spring suicides" among the military was 130 people. Several times fewer soldiers died in battles during this period. According to representatives of the Pentagon, the problem of suicide among the military is the most urgent for the US Army.

        According to military psychologists, the military is primarily prone to suicide, who spent a significant part of the time they were released under the contract in hot spots. At the same time, many of those servicemen who committed suicide in recent years have never participated in battles. According to the authorities, at the moment they cannot make a list of specific reasons that are pushing the military to commit suicide.

        This year, the level of suicide among US troops has reached a record level since 2001, when the United States began to deploy military operations in Afghanistan. In recent years, a peak in the decline in suicides among the military was observed in 2010-2011. Despite the fact that in America, the military has special lines for the provision of psychological assistance, many consider turning to a doctor a manifestation of weakness.

        This spring, US Major General Dana Pittard wrote on his blog that every soldier contemplating suicide should do "as adults should." The military's statement was heavily criticized. Senior army officials said seeking psychological help was a sign of strength, not weakness.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 19 January 2013 22: 52
          0
          Quote: Sith Lord
          Sprayed by US troops, radioactive materials will kill the inhabitants of the Middle East for hundreds of years!


          The fewer Amer warriors the better for others.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 10 February 2013 14: 09
          -1
          The Yankees' psyche is rather weak. And what will happen if they encounter a total, truly exhausting war?!?!
    2. esaul
      esaul 18 January 2013 06: 58
      +9
      Quote: Vanek
      Hello to everyone

      And you buddy hi
      Somehow a somewhat messy article - without a specific outline - information from various sources was summarized, but without a specific relationship of the author. You have to read between the lines, guess by individual definitions. The article is more informative, for which it deserves a plus.

      Although we were not able to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, we imported our own!

      Me the same in its own way "touched" this phrase. Healthy, swanky cynicism. Quite in the spirit of minke whales.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 January 2013 07: 03
      +3
      Quote: Vanek
      "Truth and lie" .

      Rather, lies about the invincibility of the American army. Even as defeated, they die by the thousands. Maybe the Sait administration or Oleg March will post comments from American taxpayers, it will be interesting to read their reaction to these numbers. And what will the Pentagon say about this?
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 18 January 2013 07: 09
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        , reading their reaction to these numbers will be interesting.


        I agree! I wonder how their inhabitants will react.

        Quote: esaul
        but without a specific relationship of the author.


        Yes, it seems to me and it doesn’t matter. The author wanted to show the numbers, the numbers are really terrifying.
        1. Shot off
          Shot off 18 January 2013 14: 31
          +2
          Only one thing confuses me in these figures, why the author of a post on this site did not indicate that all this info was only for the FIRST Gulf War, i.e. on the 91st year.

          And it will be interesting in the future to look at a similar analysis for the period 2003-2009.

          here, by the way, is a link to the original document in English

          http://www.viewzone2.com/gulfwar.deaths.pdf

          or

          http://www.va.gov/rac-gwvi/docs/GWVIS_May2007.pdf
    4. Trailer
      Trailer 18 January 2013 09: 41
      +5
      It seems to me, or is the author taking hard drugs? 1 million disabled people ... 75 thousand killed ... cocainum.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 18 January 2013 09: 57
        +4
        Quote: Karavan
        1 million disabled people ...

        So, it wasn’t for me alone that the author himself was a disabled person? laughing
      2. Bosk
        Bosk 18 January 2013 21: 37
        +1
        A mentally injured person wakes up worse than a physically injured ...
      3. ikrut
        ikrut 24 January 2013 19: 53
        +1
        Quote: Karavan
        1 million invalids ... 75 thousand killed ... cocainum.

        A disproportionately large number of people with disabilities compared with the dead, most likely, is due to the fact that the US military has pretty good protective ammunition, which helps to avoid a fatal outcome, but does not save from serious injuries. IMHO ..
    5. Papakiko
      Papakiko 18 January 2013 10: 33
      0
      Wounding statistics are also terrifying:
      Complaints against unknown diseases filed: 14,874
      The total number of disabled people is 1,620,906

      I certainly understand that more than 200 million US citizens are disabled for various reasons, most of them are "moral".
      But the absence of the wounded is difficult or easy, which, after treatment, return to duty, simply MISSING belay
      All bruises, cuts, indigestion are brought into disability, so it turns out?
      It remains to find out what the author is sitting on (drinks, breathes, infuses), or does he already observe life in a "bright color"?
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 18 January 2013 13: 44
      +1
      And I, here on the site constantly spoke and I will say that the Americans have strange calculations, both in manpower and in technology.

      For example, what doesn’t go to loss statistics:

      if a car accident occurs and the driver or infantrymen die - it does not go to losses;

      if a soldier was bitten by a snake or spider and he died - it does not go to losses;

      if a soldier shot himself (for example, in 2011, 82 marines shot themselves) - this is not a loss;

      if a helicopter crashes and pilots and soldiers die, for that reason (wear and tear of spare parts, sandstorm, etc.) - it does not go to losses;

      if in Afghanistan an infantry fighting vehicle fell into the abyss and soldiers died - it does not go to losses;

      friendly fire - it does not go to losses;

      a soldier with a mental disorder will start shooting at his colleagues in Iraq or Afghanistan - it does not go to losses;

      if a soldier drank some water, in some village or ate local food and then died - it does not go to losses;

      tank blown up on IEDs - does not go into losses, only tanks that died from RPGs or from an enemy tank go into losses;
      1. Dinver
        Dinver 18 January 2013 16: 56
        +1
        Quote: Sith Lord
        And I, here on the site constantly spoke and I will say that the Americans have strange calculations, both in manpower and in technology.


        I would also add mercenaries fighting in foreign legions for citizenship, as well as losses of "private armies", which now account for up to 60% of the total ...
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 18 January 2013 18: 57
          0
          PMC losses amounted to 1,500 killed and about 9000 wounded.
  2. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 18 January 2013 06: 41
    +2
    Bush ml. for such a quarter it is necessary in private or to give it to families in which children with birth defects are born as a result of his activity as head of state
    1. Doktor-2
      Doktor-2 18 January 2013 07: 02
      +1
      ... or at least on trial ("FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY") and hanged as one of the presidents of the country allegedly liberated by them
  3. Veter
    Veter 18 January 2013 06: 45
    +2
    This is the worst environmental disaster ever made by human hands.

    And what to expect from the Nazis of the XXI century.
    For this deservedly 73 thousand souls - payment for "exploits".
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 January 2013 07: 06
      +2
      Quote: Veter
      For this deservedly 73 thousand souls - payment for "deeds"

      Do these figures include losses in Afghanistan? Or is it just oil-rich Iraq what
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 18 January 2013 07: 13
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        losses in Afghanistan?


        From the article:

        Veterans Affairs Office reports 73 thousand dead in wars in the Persian Gulf.

        Although not a fact.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 January 2013 07: 17
          +1
          Quote: Vanek


          The Department of Veterans Affairs reports 73 thousands of people killed in the wars in the Persian Gulf.

          Yes, here also a misunderstanding arises, it is written below ..


          But something strange happened with the war in Iraq. The Bush administration has done something dishonest, and it still lasts. They decided to report losses only under the condition
          that the soldier was killed directly on the battlefield in Iraq.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 18 January 2013 08: 17
            +3
            At the very beginning of the war, they wrote that a soldier who died at the time of battle was considered a combat soldier. If he died in a medical helicopter, they did not bring it in, went according to different statistics (I don’t remember as a memory, something from the series of "sanitary losses"). And if in a hospital in the United States - generally a veteran, no statistics.

            And so myths about an invincible American army are born.
  4. Massik
    Massik 18 January 2013 06: 49
    +1
    to find out exactly how much we lost in Afghanistan and the TFR, but it seems that there are no radioactive zones there now? Everyone says "the US army is professional" what kind of a professional army is it when their number of non-combat losses will soon exceed 50%?
  5. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 18 January 2013 06: 55
    +3
    Not a topic, but still - The preliminary investigation carried out by the Main Military Investigation Department (GVSU) of the Investigative Committee of the Investigative Committee of Anatoly Serdyukov as the Minister of Defense led to the initiation of the first criminal case, of which he will become a defendant, writes Kommersant! Tolyan will drop by the way!
  6. Lantau
    Lantau 18 January 2013 06: 56
    +2
    people whom we allegedly tried to "free".


    That’s for sure, free from life. You cannot say otherwise.
  7. Leisure
    Leisure 18 January 2013 07: 00
    +4
    It may be depleted uranium, not enriched. What is the term radioactive poisoning? In general, it is common to underestimate one’s losses, indicating only direct combat, but in the article there are just some huge numbers, sanitary losses of 1,6 million, fucking up, the whole Amer’s army on disability? The story of a fisherman-hunter, the truth is somewhere nearby ....
    1. Rambiaka
      Rambiaka 18 January 2013 07: 05
      +1
      They have their own ideas about disability. crying
  8. chehywed
    chehywed 18 January 2013 07: 02
    +6
    Amer convoy in Iraq was attacked by partisans. They blew up the head and tail cars and began to hit the trucks with soldiers. The soldiers jumped into the ditches and lay down. Drivers, in order to get the cars out of the fire, began to taxi through the ditches and crush their soldiers. At the same time, some cars with soldiers in bodies that did not have time to jump out from under a tarp turned over and caught fire. Soldiers and drivers died. So: all the corpses, on which there were no traces of bullets and fragments, were recorded as victims of an accident. In the USA, death from traffic accidents is not uncommon. The population is used to
  9. nikkon09
    nikkon09 18 January 2013 07: 07
    +2
    I am not surprised by the numbers and the fact that losses are underestimated - however, the lessons of the Vietnam War, however, against which a powerful movement has risen. Here and they are cunning as they can, it means not only our journalists and reporters are only serving the elite. Here it is such a democracy.
  10. evgenii67
    evgenii67 18 January 2013 07: 21
    +2
    Hello! The numbers, of course, differ many times from those that are officially given to us, it is difficult to say how true the information according to the "Office of Veterans Affairs" is, but I think that they have less lies than the administration ... but the veterans who returned home remain unaccounted for and after a while they took their own lives, and there are also quite a few of them.
  11. Force 83
    Force 83 18 January 2013 07: 23
    +5
    And explain where these figures come from? Any info must be confirmed.
    1. Region65
      Region65 18 January 2013 08: 43
      +2
      http://www.va.gov/vetdata/ вот здесь ищем, переводим, читаем и считаем.... hi
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 January 2013 17: 11
        +1
        Quote: Region65
        http://www.va.gov/vetdata/ вот здесь ищем, переводим, читаем и считаем.

        Where exactly? In which category? Did not find, please specify a more precise place.
        1. Shot off
          Shot off 18 January 2013 17: 47
          0
          http://www.viewzone2.com/gulfwar.deaths.pdf

          or

          http://www.va.gov/rac-gwvi/docs/GWVIS_May2007.pdf
  12. Fox
    Fox 18 January 2013 07: 48
    +2
    and last year I wrote that amers ordered a tuyeva heap of bags for corpses, and then they additionally ordered. The total was about 75 thousand.
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 18 January 2013 07: 58
    +2
    The best advertisement for Soviet-Russian weapons and Soviet-Russian military advisers (not to be confused with bureaucrats from the Moscow Region).
  14. demon ada
    demon ada 18 January 2013 08: 14
    +2
    statistics of low losses due to the counting method.
    The United States uses private armed forces and other mercenaries that are not part of the armed forces of the United States.
    it follows that very few died directly on the battlefield during the execution of the combat order of the US citizens, and the total number of losses is very, very significant.
    for example, military cargo is sent to the Persian Gulf, it was delivered there and during unloading at a military airfield, when an enemy fired at a runway, the cargo fell off and crushed a civil servant and security guard, if this would be considered a combat loss, most likely not.
  15. Force 83
    Force 83 18 January 2013 08: 18
    +3
    How can you believe if this information was published in 2011 and not any reaction of the people and the Pentagon.
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/69734-v-voynah-v-persidskom-zalive-pogib
    lo-73846-amerikanskih-soldat.html
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 January 2013 17: 13
      +2
      Quote: Force 83
      http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/69734-v-voynah-v-persidskom-zalive-pogib

      lo-73846-amerikanskih-soldat.html

      So I ask for a link to the source, and not to the article in * The Eye of the Planet *, otherwise it’s not clear what we are fighting for? Maybe infa just a linden?
  16. balamut_x
    balamut_x 18 January 2013 08: 26
    +1
    ha on the source’s site there are links where this topic is still being discussed, so many links no longer work or the content has been deleted or even the address is for sale)

    http://www.federaljack.com/?p=22683
    You can try to check yourself, they do not like the truth
    for example, one of the links http://grassrootsheadlines.com/?p=3800
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 January 2013 17: 14
      +1
      Quote: balamut_x
      http://grassrootsheadlines.com/?p=3800

      Friend-friend quoted. Where is the link to the source?
  17. valokordin
    valokordin 18 January 2013 08: 29
    +1
    Quote: Force 83

    Foreman avatar
    Online
    Force 83 RU Today, 08:18 a new
    - 0 +
    How can you believe if this information was published in 2011 and not any reaction of the people and the Pentagon.
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/69734-v-voynah-v-persidskom-zalive-pogib



    lo-73846-amerikanskih-soldat.html

    wait for the official reaction, but the fact that such losses, even taking into account losses on the battlefield, is simply terrible compared to our losses in Afghanistan. And this is one year of war compared to 10 years in our country. And our media should have disseminated this information across all channels.
  18. Region65
    Region65 18 January 2013 08: 38
    +2
    but to me personally about this, this statistic is very pleasing:
    The U.S. Veterans Administration has nearly tripled spending on erectile dysfunction medications over the past six years, with the return of a large number of veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan suffering from war-related stresses and disorders.

    Bloomberg reported that for the last fiscal year ending September 30, 2012, the department allocated $ 71,7 million for the purchase of drugs such as Viagra, Pfizer and Levitra Bayer, up from $ 27,1 million in 2006. ...

    The number of issued prescriptions for these drugs has almost doubled - from 2,7 million in 2006 to FY 4,5 million in 2012, Interfax reports.

    At the same time, the agency’s total expenditures on medicines for veterans increased over this period by 22% to $ 4,29 billion.
  19. PDM80
    PDM80 18 January 2013 08: 40
    0
    Do we have less death in Afghanistan? And I think the figure is actually greater if you do not take the dead and crippled, how many of the veterans committed suicide, how many more will end! Here it is the vaunted power of the United States from the air and ships, but they can’t even fight on the ground against militants. Maybe that's why they are still afraid of attacking Russia, here you cannot solve everything with aircraft carriers and planes. We have BIG forests laughing
  20. evgenii67
    evgenii67 18 January 2013 09: 01
    0
    Quote: PDM80
    Maybe that's why they are still afraid of attacking Russia, here you cannot solve everything with aircraft carriers and planes. We have forests BIG laughing
    and not only. Our main trump card because of which we have not yet been attacked is nuclear weapons! And the fact that the forests are large and indeed the territory is large and rich, is what attracts them (our friends).
    1. PDM80
      PDM80 18 January 2013 09: 48
      +1
      If nuclear weapons are used, then everyone will feel bad, even if it is used on one side only. Won Chernobol pulled how many countries hooked, and this is not a bomb from her harm anymore. It could still be used during the Cold War, and now NATO itself will be the first to hang on the hands of Amerikos
  21. kontrol
    kontrol 18 January 2013 09: 25
    +3
    it is strange that the losses are so big. It even seems that they are unrealistically large, although this cannot but rejoice - fuck it, "democratize" everything
  22. Force 83
    Force 83 18 January 2013 09: 27
    +2
    Do not underestimate the enemy. Especially if they don’t then have to fight there. And the official data http://www.icasualties.org/oef/Nationality.aspx?hndQry=US only here I do not believe others. And if in the USSR there would be such a site of the Council of Veterans. Moreover, think for yourself how much technology has stepped forward, and in Vietnam, in a more complex and better armed army, it dies less than in the desert in a war with some kind of cunt.
    1. PDM80
      PDM80 18 January 2013 09: 51
      +1
      In Vietnam there was a different theater of operations, a different locality and tactics of warfare. And on the account of the fact that technology has stepped forward, so it has stepped in order to destroy more effectively
      1. Force 83
        Force 83 18 January 2013 10: 07
        +3
        So the technique probably stepped among the Arabs? -To your alignment. Then, in general, why do we need airplanes, helicopters, tanks, etc., if with it [the country possessing it] it dies more than without it. Then why should Russia build PAK FA submarines. Give more guerrilla groups and explosives
  23. leon-iv
    leon-iv 18 January 2013 10: 00
    0
    And now we add the contractors IIIiiii there


  24. Slevinst
    Slevinst 18 January 2013 10: 03
    0
    It is necessary to introduce a ban on the production of ammunition that can harm the environment, at least radioactive and chemical, otherwise soon we will all become mutants
    1. PDM80
      PDM80 18 January 2013 10: 09
      0
      And they will not be used?
    2. leon-iv
      leon-iv 18 January 2013 10: 15
      0
      Are you hinting about uranium cores?
      1. PDM80
        PDM80 18 January 2013 10: 26
        0
        Their most. And those that still come up. There will always be a fool squeezed into a corner that, and for whatever worse, can take advantage. In addition, we are slowly being killed and made into mutants in everyday life by other things, the same GMOs.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 18 January 2013 10: 31
          0
          Well, they’re fools, for uranium 238 is the future of energy.
          And without GMOs, our ball very quickly rolls very far and for a long time.
          1. PDM80
            PDM80 18 January 2013 10: 38
            0
            Hard to disagree, he rolls. One just hopes that only our enemies will be bad, and we will be carried wink Russian maybe have not been canceled yet, but wassat
  25. komsomolets
    komsomolets 18 January 2013 14: 16
    0
    Yes, a lot of very many soldiers lost, and given the loss of private contractors, which are many in Iraq, probably a figure will reach 100.000. The war is a computer toy.
  26. Bosk
    Bosk 18 January 2013 21: 40
    +1
    It’s such losses after carpet bombings and pinpoint strikes ... but if they still went to bayonet attacks, then they would be an order of magnitude larger.