The Russian fifth-generation fighter has received mini-drones for various purposes.

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The Russian fifth-generation fighter has received mini-drones for various purposes.

The Russian fifth-generation fighter Su-57 received a mini-Drones for various purposes, which the aircraft can control while in the air. An informed source reported this.

Mini-drones have been developed for the Su-57, which the fighter can carry inside the fuselage or on an external sling and use if necessary. It's like drums drones, and about reconnaissance and electronic warfare. The aircraft is capable of controlling a group of drones to perform combat missions.



Mini-UAVs for various purposes have been created for the Su-57, which the aircraft can carry on an external sling and in the intra-fuselage compartment and be dropped in the air. It is planned that the fighter will launch several drones at once and control this group of drones

- leads RIA News source words.

It is planned that in conjunction with drones, fighters will act much more effectively when performing combat missions. The development of onboard equipment and special software for working with a group of drones began back in 2021.

Despite the fact that the Su-57 is entering service with the troops, work on the fighter has not yet been completed; a new one is being created for it weapon, communication complexes, etc. Recently information appeared that flight tests of an aircraft with a second-stage engine had begun. As the developers themselves state, the fighter has already become a platform that is gradually evolving.

The Su-57 is a fifth-generation Russian multirole fighter designed using stealth technologies at Sukhoi Design Bureau. The fighter is designed to destroy air, ground and surface targets using air defense systems, long-range reconnaissance, as well as to destroy the control system aviation enemy. Can fight alone and within the framework of the “single field” concept.
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  1. 0
    28 November 2023 06: 49
    Now we need to apply and hone our combat skills on banderlogs.
    1. +15
      28 November 2023 08: 04
      What is the speed of these drones that the SU 57 will work “in conjunction”?
      1. +1
        28 November 2023 09: 58
        I also asked myself this question??? Or have they already been able to make a mini SU-57? belay
        1. +1
          28 November 2023 23: 45
          It all depends on their functionality. If they are bait, then release them halfway and circle to the side. It's the same with scouts. He can't collect them. Most likely they will be disposable. And recently a patent was submitted for a double cabin, similar to the Su-30. Loitering missiles were reported. What is not a UAV controlled by 2 pilots?
      2. +4
        28 November 2023 11: 35
        Quote: Aerodrome
        What is the speed of these drones that the SU 57 will work “in conjunction”?
        They will not fly in the same formation, but will carry out the tasks assigned to them together with the Su 57 and under its (and not even under its, but in the same control network) rule. It is difficult to deliver these drones to the mission execution area at a given time, so the Su 57 delivers and launches at the required point the drones necessary to complete the task and carries out the task by controlling the drones, which at that time can fly in the other direction. For example, instead of a hanging container with equipment Electronic warfare, there will be an electronic warfare drone, and the aircraft, freed from this suspension, will retain reduced reflectivity (invisibility). Something like this. The main thing is that the necessary means to complete the task are in the right place and at the right time.
        As the developers themselves state, the fighter has already become a platform that is gradually evolving.
        Of course, for such a cost, the device is simply obliged to evolve, because in the modern world, if you do not evolve, then the equipment will become outdated within a year, requirements change so quickly that the aircraft must constantly adapt to the requirements, like a chameleon to the environment.
      3. +1
        29 November 2023 01: 54
        Apparently they are one-time use/action. Then you won't have enough of them. If you have released bombs or missiles and say goodbye, then these mini-drones still need to be controlled and coordinated with them, which means you can’t move too far from them. And their speed will probably also be mini.
    2. -1
      28 November 2023 12: 00
      Another fairy tale for idiots. This cannot be, because it cannot be even theoretically.
      First, you need a 2nd operator. Su-30SM is preferable.
      Secondly, we do not have communication channels and information exchange with the necessary capabilities even for Orions...
      Thirdly, why are there no such UAVs on helicopters, even there it is more necessary and easier to do...
      Complete nonsense!!! They don't even know how to lie.
      1. +4
        28 November 2023 12: 57
        This cannot be, because it cannot be even theoretically.

        Don't write nonsense.
        I understand your skepticism, but in the heat of the moment you shouldn’t write all sorts of garbage.

        And since he is anonymous, the author of the article should provide a link to the source.
        Not to a news agency, but to a specific article.
        In the meantime, here in its pure form, One Grandmother Said that she does not paint VO.
        1. +1
          29 November 2023 01: 56
          One Grandmother Said = “An informed source reported this.”
      2. +1
        29 November 2023 02: 18
        Quote: Totvolk80
        Thirdly, why are there no such UAVs on helicopters, even there it is more necessary and easier to do...

        Because the concept of the Mi-28, of which the Ka-52 is a conceptual clone, did not initially provide for an attack outside the visual range of the onboard radar. This is an old concept. There is a communication channel with the drone. It’s not clear what to do with it. The attack helicopter of the 28/50 competition has the same weapon range and PNK operating range. Even if the crew can detect and identify a target at a distance of 100 kilometers, they simply will not have anything to attack it with. And if you make a long-range weapon more than completely dependent on a drone, this is on the verge of stupidity.
        Nowadays, helicopters are equipped with Izdeliye-305, which is the same kamikaze drone, only with a jet engine.
  2. +6
    28 November 2023 07: 08
    Our home-grown PR people are fixated on UAVs. Wherever they shove them. To start with the SU-57, you just need to build a couple of air divisions, train pilots, teach them how to fight enemy aircraft, how to work on the ground. Maybe I’m exaggerating, but I can’t imagine how a supersonic pilot launches several UAVs and points them at the target as a UAV operator.
    If the SU-57 simply crushes enemy aircraft, that’s already a five-star rating. And if he can also destroy all the Hymers’ missile launchers, then that’s great. soldier
    What they offer for the SU-57 with a UAV is like hammering nails with a microscope. fool
    1. 0
      28 November 2023 07: 20
      It’s not a fact that the UAV will be controlled by a pilot. It is enough for him to simply launch and relay the signal (for example), and the operator will be on the ground.
      1. +3
        28 November 2023 08: 40
        It is enough for him to simply launch and relay the signal

        Then let the “Hunter” do it. The Su-57 is too expensive to work as a repeater.
        1. +3
          28 November 2023 08: 52
          Well, it seems like the Okhotnik was planned to work in conjunction with the SU-57, no?
      2. +1
        28 November 2023 12: 52
        It is enough for him to simply launch and relay the signal (for example), and the operator will be on the ground.

        Then all his invisibility goes through the forest.
      3. +2
        28 November 2023 13: 21
        What kind of antenna should be there so that a supersonic fighter can transmit a signal constantly? He’s not a slow scout loitering in the stratosphere.
    2. +1
      28 November 2023 07: 45
      Our home-grown PR people are fixated on UAVs. Wherever they shove them. To start with the SU-57, you just need to build a couple of air divisions, train pilots, teach them how to fight enemy aircraft, how to work on the ground.
      So that in a couple of years you can shout: the earlier we thought, we should have designed it straight from the UAV, now everyone has one, and we are the same as always!
    3. +7
      28 November 2023 08: 45
      Our homegrown PR people are fixated on UAVs

      This is not a fighter business, delivering UAVs to the database area. Moreover, to the detriment of missile weapons. Creatives suffer from bullshit.
    4. 0
      28 November 2023 09: 17
      Maybe I’m exaggerating, but I can’t imagine how a supersonic pilot launches several UAVs and points them at the target as a UAV operator.

      The creation of a two-seat Su 57 has already been announced.
      Another question is how long it will take to create it...
    5. +1
      28 November 2023 09: 29
      There are different drones, there are also jet ones, the same hunter, for example. But it is expensive, almost like an airplane. And delivering several small UAVs to the desired area without risking an airplane, for additional reconnaissance of targets, or jamming an air defense system, for a subsequent strike is just the thing. Yes, if the air defense goes off as the plane approaches, then the strike forces take over, destroying it. The idea is great, but difficult to execute, we could do it.
    6. -1
      28 November 2023 11: 07
      Quote: V.
      What they offer for the SU-57 with a UAV is like hammering nails with a microscope

      Agree. let the Su-57 do its thing. And a bunch of old airplanes can be adapted to carry UAVs. For example, our Su-24s are gathering dust idle.
    7. 0
      28 November 2023 20: 48
      Recently the news seemed to have leaked that they were preparing a two-seater modification. I also thought - for what? Maybe it is?
  3. +5
    28 November 2023 07: 14
    Damn, but when I talked about the news that the Lancet hit 40+ at the stated 70 km (if I’m not mistaken, then it hit an airplane at the airfield), that most likely it was launched from an airplane, they immediately attacked me “oh, what the hell, this makes no sense, do you even know how the Lancet starts up?"
    Yes, I know - from the launch catapult to set the initial speed and altitude, after which it spends some more time (and battery life) to reach cruising speed and the desired altitude.
    And if you launch it from an airplane, then the initial speed and altitude are already there and you won’t need to spend additional resources.
    Well, here’s confirmation - drones can and should be launched from airplanes.
    1. 0
      28 November 2023 07: 21
      Quote from: DirtyLiar
      Damn, but when I talked about the news that the Lancet hit 40+ at the stated 70 km (if I’m not mistaken, then it hit an airplane at the airfield), that most likely it was launched from an airplane, they immediately attacked me “oh, what the hell, this makes no sense, do you even know how the Lancet starts up?"
      Yes, I know - from the launch catapult to set the initial speed and altitude, after which it spends some more time (and battery life) to reach cruising speed and the desired altitude.
      And if you launch it from an airplane, then the initial speed and altitude are already there and you won’t need to spend additional resources.
      Well, here’s confirmation - drones can and should be launched from airplanes.

      Look at the diagram of the Lancet, at its suspension components and at its wings. And how are these wings attached?
      Well, the Lancet cannot be suspended from an airplane.
      1. +1
        28 November 2023 07: 24
        What's stopping you from making a special suspension for the Lancet?
        1. -3
          28 November 2023 08: 53
          You can do anything - invest billions in redesigning the Lancet production and produce a product at the price of a steam locomotive, withstand aircraft loads, with folding tail, etc..... there is only one question - WHY?
          The whole point of the Lancet is so that people don’t stick to the ribbon themselves, drones do it instead, and you dream of sending a pilot on an expensive plane to the ribbon.
          You didn’t understand the sensation - the whole question is not how the Lancet overcame 70 km (they installed more powerful batteries and that’s the point), the question is how it managed from 70 km? This is the MAIN question. And this news gives hope for cautious optimism - everyone knows that the Lancet works in tandem with a reconnaissance UAV that detects targets and acts as a relay. So, about 70 km - didn’t they put a reconnaissance aircraft and a repeater on this UAV - control via satellite, or the old fashioned way - through a chain of UAV repeaters?
      2. +3
        28 November 2023 07: 28
        Quote: SovAr238A
        Look at the diagram of the Lancet, at its suspension components and at its wings. Well, the Lancet can't be hung on an airplane.

        Well, Lancet, as one option, it can be transported in containers. Technically, this is not difficult to do. You can make a retractable tail. If you think about it, there are still a lot of different solutions. A problem for an average engineer...
        1. +5
          28 November 2023 07: 46
          You can make a retractable tail.
          Already. The new Lancet is launched from a container and spreads its wings after liftoff. And it already seems to be applied.
        2. +2
          28 November 2023 09: 55
          However, it makes a big difference to launch the UAV from 0 speed or at least 500 km/h. It is unlikely that the Lancet will withstand this; it is designed for speeds of up to 150 km/h. And this means the creation of a new, completely different device.
          1. 0
            28 November 2023 10: 46
            It has a maximum speed of 300 km/h, so there’s nothing stopping you from dropping it to 300, starting it and dialing it back up.
    2. -1
      28 November 2023 07: 42
      Quote from: DirtyLiar
      Damn, but when I said about the news that The lancet, at the stated 40 km, hit 70+ (if I’m not mistaken, then it hit an airplane at the airfield), that, most likely, it was launched from an airplane, they immediately attacked me, “Oh, what the heck, this is pointless, do you even know how the Lancet is launched?”

      There is also Lancet-3:
      Technical specifications
      Currently, two types of drones are used: the basic model “Lancet-1” and the improved version “Lancet-3”. Their technical characteristics, of course, differ:
      Lancet-1 has a mass of 5 kg, carries a charge of 1 kg, and a flight range of 40 km.
      Lancet-3 weighs 12 kg and is equipped with a charge of 3 kg, with a flight range of up to 70 km.
      The speed of both drones can reach 110 km/h.
      And to defeat enemy UAVs, Lancet-3 can accelerate to 300 km/h.
    3. 0
      28 November 2023 14: 01
      There are a lot of cheaper ways to deliver a lancet 70 km. And if the target has already been scouted, then it is better to launch something more powerful and faster than the lancet
  4. 0
    28 November 2023 07: 17
    It is planned that the fighter will launch several drones at once and control this group of drones
    Will AI control a group of UAVs? When performing a combat mission, the pilot has no time for this; at best, enter targets for everyone and follow the “fire and forget” principle.
  5. -4
    28 November 2023 07: 32
    Quote: V.
    What they offer for the SU-57 with a UAV is like hammering nails with a microscope.

    From what ? For example, Su will launch a missile into the desired area from a UAV. The missile will shoot quads in the required sectors, and they will transmit a 3D picture to the Su board, according to which Su will launch a high-precision missile. And a rocket with quads will arrive at supersonic speed much earlier than this Su - everything is logical.
  6. +1
    28 November 2023 08: 03
    Most likely this is a duck, why would a fighter reduce its efficiency?. The presence of such a product on a hunter is acceptable
  7. +1
    28 November 2023 08: 06
    UAV technology in Russia has certainly made fantastic leaps forward.
    Bravo to the designers good
  8. -2
    28 November 2023 08: 32
    Wow, just like that, suddenly, after 60-odd years, military minds realized that drones are good. True, they didn’t think about naval drones again, and they didn’t think about the fact that the enemy has been building them with might and main for a long time. As always, their path is unknown and abstruse. But I liked the game of tanks, how much money was spent on all sorts of Uranus, etc. which can be stopped by almost any obstacle on earth. Exactly the same picture with military equipment. Any Western equipment is armored, but the Russian Federation has all these salvo systems fire and so on are only for parades, releasing into a combat zone is more expensive for yourself, any, even a tiny fragment can easily disable equipment and personnel. Is it really not going to dawn on you that analyzing the enemy’s achievements would save time, people and money.
  9. -3
    28 November 2023 08: 35
    Quote: V.
    Our homegrown PR people are fixated on UAVs

    And this is a common practice for “effective managers” and other talkers - he said digitalization and artificial intelligence and your report will appeal to management, but in reality no one at the top is interested...
  10. -2
    28 November 2023 08: 36
    Quote: FighterD
    UAV technology in Russia has certainly made fantastic leaps forward.

    This is for sure, and not least thanks to Aliexpress!
    1. -1
      29 November 2023 09: 23
      Why can’t Ukrainians build drones and rockets from chips from washing machines?
  11. -3
    28 November 2023 08: 38
    Quote: Oleg Apushkin
    Most likely this is a duck, why would a fighter reduce its efficiency?

    Maybe. Remember, a couple of years ago the word “hypersonic” had to be inserted into every sentence, now the word “UAV” must be added everywhere...
  12. -1
    28 November 2023 08: 51
    Quote from: DirtyLiar
    What's stopping you from making a special suspension for the Lancet?

    The answer is VO specialists
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  14. +1
    28 November 2023 08: 56
    Quote: Vladimir80

    Maybe. Remember, a couple of years ago the word “hypersonic” had to be inserted into every sentence, now the word “UAV” must be added everywhere...

    So hypersound works for us, and for you?
  15. +2
    28 November 2023 09: 02
    Haha, this is some kind of nonsense;)))
    And how do they imagine dropping and controlling drones from the air? The fighter will fly over the target until a drone dropped from a height reaches it.
    This means you need to circle over it so as not to lose contact over the drone, and expose your rear to enemy air defense.
  16. -1
    28 November 2023 09: 16
    The news, like the topic itself, is good and positive. But for myself personally, first I’m waiting for mass production and deployment of the Su-57 itself
  17. -1
    28 November 2023 09: 28
    There are different drones, there are also jet ones, the same hunter, for example. But it is expensive, almost like an airplane. And delivering several small UAVs to the desired area without risking an airplane, for additional reconnaissance of targets, or jamming an air defense system, for a subsequent strike is just the thing. Yes, if the air defense goes off as the plane approaches, then the strike forces take over, destroying it. The idea is great, but difficult to execute, we could do it.
  18. -3
    28 November 2023 10: 14
    Armata already has an unmanned vehicle. The Su-57 also has it. Soon, with a grant, a UAV will be installed in a luxury configuration... to identify traffic cops.
    1. -1
      28 November 2023 10: 23
      Armata already has an unmanned vehicle

      Well, yes, there is an armata, and there is a drone.... (if they wrote it, it means it exists! And whoever doubts it, better not doubt it!)
  19. 0
    28 November 2023 10: 34
    Quote: Stepych
    Haha, this is some kind of nonsense;)))
    And how do they imagine dropping and controlling drones from the air? The fighter will fly over the target until a drone dropped from a height reaches it.
    This means you need to circle over it so as not to lose contact over the drone, and expose your rear to enemy air defense.

    Apparently there is not enough education, you have to invent your own and replace it with the word “nonsense” or ha-ha
  20. -3
    28 November 2023 10: 36
    Why is this machine called a “fighter” if it must hit any targets except underwater ones? Are they again trying to make a universal aircraft like a hundred years ago in the USSR? But, just as then, it will turn out that it will be more complicated and more expensive than specialized aircraft, and is generally unsuitable for direct support of troops on the battlefield.
    1. 0
      28 November 2023 10: 50
      Hmm... They probably forgot to ask you when they created the SU-34:
      Su-34 - Soviet and Russian multifunctional front-line supersonic fighter bomber

      That's it, damn it. Both "fighter" and "bomber". And probably completely unsuitable for supporting troops?
      1. -3
        28 November 2023 13: 44
        The fighter-bomber is just an attempt to expand the capabilities of the attack aircraft. And attempts of this kind do not achieve decisive success. Just recently I read a text about the Americans’ attempts to replace the “flying gun” A-10 Thunderbolt with the “multi-purpose” F-35. As a result, it turned out that the F-35, which has significantly more powerful weapons, could not fully replace the “outdated” attack aircraft in attacking ground targets.
        1. 0
          28 November 2023 22: 02
          So the F-35 is extremely crude. Which is confirmed by their falls.
    2. 0
      28 November 2023 10: 51
      Are you familiar with the word “multifunctionality” at all? Not? lol
      1. -2
        28 November 2023 13: 34
        Multifunctionality for weapons is like multi-vectorism for politics: neither yours nor ours. In other words, it's a bunch of compromises that significantly reduce efficiency.
  21. 0
    28 November 2023 10: 43
    Quote: AA22Helmet
    Wow, just like that, suddenly, after 60-odd years, military minds realized that drones are good. True, they didn’t think about naval drones again, and they didn’t think about the fact that the enemy has been building them with might and main for a long time. As always, their path is unknown and abstruse. But I liked the game of tanks, how much money was spent on all sorts of Uranus, etc. which can be stopped by almost any obstacle on earth. Exactly the same picture with military equipment. Any Western equipment is armored, but the Russian Federation has all these salvo systems fire and so on are only for parades, releasing into a combat zone is more expensive for yourself, any, even a tiny fragment can easily disable equipment and personnel. Is it really not going to dawn on you that analyzing the enemy’s achievements would save time, people and money.


    Well, it’s just that no one in the design bureaus observed you with rationalization proposals drinks If only Russia had UAVs before stop

    Then, as always, there is a standard answer about the fact that “you have already plowed/won yours,” or slogans about corruption/bureaucracy/lack of interest in the area of ​​improvement proposals lol
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  23. osp
    -2
    28 November 2023 13: 34
    Quote: boriz
    Maybe I’m exaggerating, but I can’t imagine how a supersonic pilot launches several UAVs and points them at the target as a UAV operator.

    The creation of a two-seat Su 57 has already been announced.
    Another question is how long it will take to create it...

    For example, the Su-27 in a single-seat version, being still in early series, began to enter service with the Air Defense and Air Force of the USSR around the mid-80s, 1985-86.
    And the first twin Su-27UBs began to be produced in Irkutsk and delivered to the troops around 1987-88.
    And even then to a limited extent, they only went on a massive scale in 1990.
    That is, the fine-tuning and deployment of production took approximately 5 years after the single-seat version entered service in several regiments.

    In the case of the Su-57, this may take at least 10 years.
  24. 0
    28 November 2023 14: 10
    Something is somehow doubtful, all of our UAVs were born in terrible pain and for a very long time. Zala has been giving birth to its flying wings and lancets since 2003; Orion still cannot boast of great results, despite the fact that its prototype, Watch-600, took off 12 years ago. The S70, based on the stingray, has been made and refined for many years. Probably 90% of drones from similar UAVs of their news died quietly in obscurity. And here, too, there is some kind of dregs, at most they integrated the transmission of intelligence data from some Orion directly into the cockpit
  25. 0
    28 November 2023 17: 33
    Quote: Totvolk80
    It can't be ...
    Firstly, we need a 2nd operator...
    Secondly, we have no communication channels...
    Thirdly, why not... by helicopters

    All these questions are technical. If it DOES make sense, then they do it. By the way, the armata also includes a drone (without restrictions on flight time: it can fly for a month without landing): and if controlled from a tank, it is not affected by electronic warfare.
    As for others (airplanes and helicopters), it is easier to add this to a new aircraft, and after checking, modify other (produced or old) aircraft and helicopters.
    1. 0
      29 November 2023 02: 08
      Okay, the question is NOT technical.
      What for? Intelligence service? Is this with a hefty AFAR in the nose of the plane? Targeting? Again the question of identification. This will require pilot participation in the operation of the UAV.

      I have only one thing in my head - a decoy generator, a means of passive protection.

      Nothing else comes to mind. Everything else is simpler and easier to do with anything except the Su-57...
  26. 0
    29 November 2023 07: 00
    First, we should get the fighter in more or less acceptable quantities, and with a second-stage engine. And only then write fiction about its drones
    1. 0
      29 November 2023 09: 19
      There is already a video of joint flights of UAVs and SU-57
  27. 0
    29 November 2023 07: 47
    Now all these drones have to do is wait for the plane to be made. But soon won’t everything be curtailed in favor of the new ChessMat toy? Which, if unfinished, can be abandoned again, doing something else. The budget will endure. It is not for nothing that at the last exhibition there was not a single contract.
  28. +1
    29 November 2023 13: 02
    Another peeling... Nothing to comment on.