Who is going to fight with Azerbaijan?

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Who is going to fight with Azerbaijan?

Azerbaijan continues to build up its military power, and this is already beginning to affect the foreign policy of this Transcaucasian state. According to the Global Militarization Index - 2012 (GMI), Azerbaijan is one of the most militarized countries on the planet. This rating is compiled by the Bonn International Conversion Institute (BICC) from 1990 based on data obtained from 149 states. Azerbaijan is in the list of 8 place, with military spending in 5,7% of gross national product (for comparison, the US spends 4,7%, and Russia - 3,02%).

This rating shows well that the future “battlefield” on the planet is the Middle East. Of the top ten, most states belong to this region: Israel (first place), Syria (3), Jordan (5), Kuwait (7), Bahrain (9) and Saudi Arabia (10). And Azerbaijan is directly related to this region.

The former Soviet republic uses its vast oil wealth, which has made it one of the fastest growing economies in the world, to buy weapons and the development of a national military-industrial complex. The dynamics of spending on military purposes is very impressive: from 2004 to 2012, the country's military budget grew from 170 million to 3,2 billion dollars. Arms suppliers include Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Turkey, Israel, and other countries. In particular, Russia delivered - Tanks T-T-72M1 (2006-2009 - 62 tanks), T-90S (contract 2011); SAU 2S7 "Peony" - 12 systems in 2008-2009; ATGM “Cornet” - 100 units in 2009-2010; in 2010, a contract was signed for the organization of licensed production of modernized AK-74M Kalashnikov assault rifles; Mi-35M attack multi-purpose helicopters - 24 units, in 2011-2012 16 helicopters were delivered; in 2011, 40 transport and combat Mi-17-1Vs were ordered; in 2010, a contract was signed for the supply of 2 divisions of the S-300 PMU-2 Favorit anti-aircraft missile system, and so on. Ukraine supplied the upgraded MiG-29, 13 MiG-29 and 2 MiG-29UB fighters (2007) ; modernized the Mi-24 helicopters; T-72 tanks - 48 units in 2006; Self-propelled guns 2C1 “Carnation”, 2C3 “Acacia” and others.

In 2011 alone, Azerbaijan purchased weapons from Israel for $1,6 billion. Among the purchases are Gabriel-type anti-ship cruise missiles (the number was not disclosed), Heron (five complexes) and Searcher (five complexes) unmanned aerial vehicles, one Barak-type air defense system and 75 missiles for it, as well as the EL / M-2080 Green Pine radar. Even earlier, Azerbaijan acquired intelligence equipment from Israel Drones Orbiter and Aerostar, PC30 Lynx, 5,56 mm TAR-21 "TAVOR" assault rifles and other weapons. In Azerbaijan, in 2011, they began to produce Israeli-designed UAVs. The naval forces of Azerbaijan were strengthened with the help of Turkey and the United States. There is evidence that in the coming years, the Azerbaijani Navy will be reinforced with submarines that are adapted to the conditions of the Caspian Sea.

Who is going to fight with Azerbaijan?

It is clear that the first goal is Nagorno-Karabakh. The stronger the armed forces of Azerbaijan become, the more aggressive the tone of Azerbaijani politicians and the public. This is a very dangerous moment, it is tempting to solve a foreign policy problem with the help of the army. The situation is worsened by the fact that the region as a whole has been greatly destabilized and the situation tends to worsen. Baku may risk to "fish in muddy water." It is necessary to take into account the fact that Azerbaijan has two strong allies in the region. Turkey can support Azerbaijan, and not only politically and morally, against Armenia and, potentially, Russia and Iran. Israel supports the development of the armed forces and the military-industrial complex of Azerbaijan in order to create a threat to Iran. In addition, Baku has a “roof” of global significance - the United States and NATO, with which Azerbaijan actively cooperates.

The temptation to solve the problem of Nagorno-Karabakh and take revenge for the defeat in the military conflict 1991-1994, the stronger, the worse the situation in the region. The fact that at present Azerbaijan seriously surpassed Armenia in the field of military construction is taken into account. Baku’s rhetoric has recently begun to raise fears of the start of a new war in the Caucasus. Thus, in February 2012, the ambassador of the Republic of Azerbaijan to Iran, Javanshir Akhundov, made a statement regarding the purchase of Baku’s weapons worth 1,6 billion from a sworn enemy of the Islamic Republic - Israel. He said that the weapons had been bought “in order to liberate the occupied lands of Azerbaijan”.

On December 24, 2012, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev at the opening ceremony of the building built for the disabled of the Karabakh war in Sumgait, said: “The main issue facing the country is the settlement of the Armenian-Azerbaijani Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Unfortunately, this issue has not yet been resolved. ” According to him, the Armenians carried out genocide against Azerbaijanis (Khojaly genocide). There are decisions and resolutions of international organizations, including four UN Security Council resolutions that require the withdrawal of Armenian occupation forces from Azerbaijan. However, Yerevan ignores the norms of international law and continues the occupation of Azerbaijani land. According to Aliyev, historical the justice lies in the fact that "Nagorno-Karabakh is our historical, original land", and the present Republic of Armenia has arisen on the historical lands of Azerbaijan. The President of Azerbaijan calls the decision to transfer Erivani to Armenia as the capital in 1918 a great mistake and crime, since the Irevan Khanate is an Azerbaijani historical land. The head of Azerbaijan did not stop there and stated that the invented Armenian state was created on the historical lands of Azerbaijan, and they are currently trying to create a second invented Armenian state (Nagorno-Karabakh). “The time will come when Azerbaijan will restore its territorial integrity by any means. Both historical justice and international law recognize this right for us, ”the head of the Azerbaijani state said. In fact, these are the words of war, which is not far off.

However, Azerbaijan is preparing for war not only with Armenia. In the long term (and even the medium term) a conflict with Iran and Russia is possible. There are already quite a few signs of informational preparation for expansion to the south, as well as attacks on Russia. Do not think that such a war is impossible in principle. How many people could predict the 2008 Russian-Georgian armed conflict of the year? Russia can be drawn into the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict automatically, without any desire to fight. Obviously, in the event of an attack by the Azerbaijani army on Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia will not stand aside. Russia, on the other hand, has a 102 military base in Armenia, which will exist before 2044, and possibly more. In Yerevan, they understand that having a Russian base in the country is the guarantor of national security. In the 2010 year, during a state visit, President Dmitry Medvedev, whose goal was to extend the stay of the Russian military base in the republic, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that in the event of any external threat, this would be considered as an external threat to Russia. As a result, the logic of the war may simply force Russia to intervene, since the safety of its citizens and political interests in Armenia may be affected. In turn, the clash between Russia and Azerbaijan could lead to a conflict with Turkey. And the situation on the border of Azerbaijan and the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic is very tense - gunfights, armed incidents brought down by UAVs are commonplace.

The naked eye can be seen and the possibility of aggression against Iran, which can be attacked by the United States or (and) Israel. It is not for nothing that Israel is one of Azerbaijan’s main partners in modernizing the armed forces and increasing the capabilities of the military-industrial complex. Israel is a partner and supplier who helps deploy its own military production and shares technology. It is necessary to note the fact that Baku is increasing not only the striking power of the ground forces, but also the capabilities of the Navy, that is, the maritime theater of military operations is not considered secondary. At sea, the potential adversaries of Azerbaijan are Iran and Russia.

In this context, it is clear why there was a wave of unverified reports about the provision of Azerbaijan by the Israeli Air Force airfields on its territory for an attack on Iran. Not surprisingly, relations between Tehran and Baku were on the verge of freezing when Azerbaijan announced the arrest of 40 "terrorists" from the Islamic Movement of Azerbaijan, who were accused of organizing terrorist attacks against Israeli diplomats and public figures in Azerbaijan. According to Baku, the “terrorists” were supported by the Islamic Republic. Tehran denied these accusations. Soon the British Times of London published an article where an employee of the Mossad reported that Israeli intelligence services were working in Azerbaijan. According to him, the Israeli special services together with the Azerbaijani ones are behind almost all the diversions that have occurred recently in the Islamic Republic. Including the elimination of nuclear physicist Ahmadi Roshan. Iran, in response, accused Azerbaijan of collaborating with the Israeli secret services and indirectly participating in “Zionist” sabotage attacks against the Islamic Republic.

Indicative is the liquidation of the remnants of the Russian military presence in Azerbaijan - the Russian missile defense system in Gabala. Azerbaijan has finally made its geopolitical choice in favor of potential opponents of Russia - the United States, NATO and Turkey. The presence of the Russian military in Azerbaijan is undesirable for the West.

In this context, it is impossible not to draw attention to the proposal of the deputies of the Azerbaijani parliament to rename their republic to North Azerbaijan. Without the approval of President Ilham Aliyev, MPs could not put forward such a proposal. In turn, Aliyev, without the support of the West, would also not dare to tease a much more powerful Iran. Thus, it was hinted that in the case of the partition of Iran, Baku claims its territory inhabited by ethnic Azerbaijanis and adjacent to the southern borders of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijanis are the second largest ethnic group in Iran, according to various estimates, they are from 16% to 45% of the total population, mostly they live in the so-called Southern Azerbaijan (Western Azerbaijan, Eastern Azerbaijan, Zenjan, Ardebil). The population of Iran is about 80 million. The population of Azerbaijan is 9 million. If the plan of dividing Iran is realized, and there is such a possibility, the “Great Azerbaijan” may temporarily appear on the world map, because Iranian Azerbaijan is also territorial, and in terms of population it is noticeably larger than the eponymous state with its capital in Baku. It is clear that if the West gives a "chance", the Azerbaijani leadership will almost certainly try to join the ethnically related territories of the IRI.

Participation in the division of Iran for Baku is even more preferable than the war for Nagorno-Karabakh. Iran is currently helping to overcome the energy and partly transport isolation of Armenia. After the death of Iran in its modern form, the problem of Nagorno-Karabakh will be easier to solve. For this, the information field is being prepared for a conflict with Russia. Thus, the former adviser to Heydar Aliyev, Vafa Guluzade, said that the number one enemy of Azerbaijan is Russia. According to him, “the collapse of Russia will help Azerbaijan restore its territorial integrity” without a war with Armenia, since the resistance of Yerevan in this case would be meaningless. Taking into account the NATO forces introduced before the attack on Iran in Georgia and Azerbaijan, Baku will be able to participate in the project of uniting the Southern and Northern Caucasus, separated from the Russian Federation, repeatedly voiced by Mikhail Saakashvili. Thus, Russia will be expelled from the North Caucasus and the shores of the Black and Caspian Seas.

It remains only to wait for the power in Moscow to be seized by fans of the course of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Azerbaijani political analyst Aydin Melik-Mirzoev, in December 2012, in an interview with the agency "Vesti.az", also expressed the innermost thoughts of the leadership of Azerbaijan. In his opinion, Azerbaijan should be willing to weaken, and ideally, fragmentation and disintegration of Russia. The expert believes that the losses from such an event will be, but there will be more benefit. In particular, the weakening of Russia will affect the Azerbaijani migrants who earn money today in Russia, but it will also affect the Armenians. Armenia’s losses will be greater, since it does not have “black gold”. He also noted that it would be beneficial for Azerbaijan so that the "mess" in the North Caucasus would move somewhere far away, to the Middle Volga region or to Siberia. At the same time, he called on Baku to work secretly and cautiously over the weakening and collapse of Iran, which will also negatively affect Armenia. After the weakening and collapse of Russia and Iran, Azerbaijan can go to war with Armenia.

What can Russia answer?

First you need to be strong. A strong Russia has always been a stronghold of stability and peace on the planet. The mere existence of Russia restrains the aggression of many countries, makes them solve many problems by political-diplomatic, economic, and not by war. The growth of Russia's political, economic and military power will force Azerbaijan and other countries to be more restrained, more cautious, to pursue a balanced foreign policy. And to solve this problem, it is not enough to restore industrial power and modernize the armed forces, it is necessary to fight the assorted “fifth column”. From government liberals who destroy education, culture and medicine, to ethnic separatists and radical Islamists who are preparing to repeat the “Syrian scenario” in Russia. Citizens of Russia need to become smarter and not be waged on the provocations of all sorts of leaders who dream of a new "restructuring" and final liberation from the remnants of the "totalitarian and imperial past."

Build up your military capabilities on the southern borders. This, in fact, is being done. In particular, the Caspian is noticeably strengthened. flotilla, and the growth of its combat power continues. In December 2011, a small artillery ship of project 21630 Volgodonsk entered the flotilla. In 2012, the guard ship of project 11661, type “Cheetah”, “Dagestan” (it is equipped with long-range cruise missiles Caliber-NK), and the small artillery ship “Makhachkala” were included in the Caspian flotilla. In 2013, the flotilla is to receive 5 warships: Project 21631 small missile ships (code "Buyan-M") "Grad Sviyazhsk" and "Uglich", three landing hovercraft of the "Serna" project. A number of ships are also being built for the Caspian flotilla, including Project 21631 Small Veliky Ustyug and Zeleny Dol small missile ships. In 2009, the over-the-horizon radar station of the Voronezh-DM early warning system in Armavir began operation, it closes the south-west direction. It is planned to enter the second segment, which will cover the area of ​​the Gabala radar station. This can not but rejoice. Russia should have a surgical instrument for “forcing peace” and eliminating the “hotbed of war” in the South Caucasus and generally in the South.

Unfortunately, at present, Russia does not have a truly effective leverage on Baku’s policy. True, with the aggression of Azerbaijan, Russia can go on the deportation of the entire Azerbaijani community to its historic homeland. It is necessary to take into account that the Azerbaijani community in Russia is very significant, well cohesive, has a powerful administrative and corruption resource, which can not but cause concern. Obviously, it can be used in a subversive struggle against Russia. Russia can also stop supplying Azerbaijan with first-class weapons, since the militarization of this country has led to the emergence of a new “hotbed of war” in the Caucasus.

An important role can be played by the support of Iran, following the example of the Syrian conflict. The existence of a strong, independent Iran is a deterrent to the Arab monarchies, Turkey and Azerbaijan. The time factor is very important for Russia. Iran can act as a leading figure on a chessboard in the fight against Western players and their Arab clientele. Russia can support Iran in the development of nuclear energy, the development of space programs, implement projects in the field of railway construction, civil aviation. It is necessary to help Iran in the field of defensive weapons - means of intelligence, electronic warfare, air defense. The existence of Iran will be a deterrent for politicians who dream of a “Great Azerbaijan” and “Ottoman Empire - 2”.

It is logical to assume that after the fall of the government of Bashar al-Assad in Syria, Iran will be the next victim of aggression. Although it is likely that if Assad lasts for some time, the attention of the aggressors will be switched to Iran. Tehran behaves insolently - he encroached on the "sacred cow" of the West. January 15 2013 appeared newsthat the Minister of Economy and Finance of Iran, Shamseddin Hosseini, announced his intention to abandon the use of the US dollar and the euro in foreign economic activity. Tehran gave the order to withdraw the US dollar from foreign trade operations. The Islamic Republic is radically changing the model of mutual settlements with other countries. The leaders of private companies have already received a prescription, according to which they were offered in the near future to transfer all settlements to the Iranian national currency - rial. According to Hosseini, the imposition of sanctions by the United States and the European Union forced the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran to transfer all the currency reserves of the state to gold, which turned out to be a very profitable measure. Iran began to use gold to support export-import operations with neighboring countries. In particular, for the first eleven months of 2012 of the year, the Turkish state sold gold to the Islamic Republic for 6,5 billion dollars. According to the Turkish Minister of Economy Zafer агaнаlayana, gold exports from Turkey to Iran have increased by 2012% over the past 800 year. Ankara is forced to export gold to the Islamic Republics in exchange for energy. Turkey buys more than 90% of export gas from Iran, about 10 billion cubic meters per year.

Such an example is contagious, and the West will be forced to respond, or the process of liberation from financial dependence can be very quick.

One thing is clear for sure: after the attack on Iran, the Caucasus and Central Asia will immediately become a zone of conflict without any intermediate stages. There is nothing new in this information; Russia needs to be prepared for such a development of events.
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  1. +24
    18 January 2013 08: 26
    Well, with us, if something happens, the situation will be repeated on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX., There are a lot of ambition and show-offs, then they ran far away.
    1. +2
      18 January 2013 08: 37
      In vain you are so ... Azerbaijan is a strong and wealthy state that enjoys the support of the West and the USA ... Not to mention the plans of Baku ...
      1. +5
        18 January 2013 09: 03
        Quote: older
        ..Azerbaijan is a strong and rich state
        I completely agree ... Baku is now an adversary in truth ... But the territorial claims against Armenia are cover
        1. Yarbay
          +24
          18 January 2013 09: 44
          Quote: domokl
          Baku is now really an adversary ..

          to whom ??
          Russia ??? this is not serious!
          1. kNow
            +16
            18 January 2013 10: 53
            Yarbay,
            Yarbai, you do not know - are we going to fight with Russia? feel It seems that our authorities do not suffer from paranoia ....
            1. 416sd
              +4
              18 January 2013 13: 06
              Dada, and still grab a piece from Iran, and still put the whole of Russia on the needle, and more ... and more ... an earthworm ... belay
              1. 320sd
                0
                19 January 2013 12: 56
                Good afternoon, Heydar. You seem to be related to the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry. Please tell me if you analyzed the November elections in the United States of the members of the Congress and the Senate? Do you know about the existence of the Armenian caucus? Do you know that this year the Armenian caucus in the US Senate and Congress is 90 people, which has not happened since the time of R. Reagan in 1984. Do you know what the current US Secretary of State John Kerry noted? And lastly, is Azerbaijan ready for that hot session of "love" that awaits it in February at PACE? By the way, Russia has already stated that it will support Azerbaijan's position at the PACE session)))))))
                1. 416sd
                  +3
                  19 January 2013 13: 03
                  I have nothing to do with the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry ... Absolutely nothing .... under many of my articles there is a signature and the name of the organization to which I have a relationship. All that you have noted is known to me ... I have my own opinion on this ...
                  Despite the fact that I received education in the West (not in the USA), my attitude towards the West is quite pragmatic and not romantic. Yes, yesterday, on Russia's position on the issue in PACE and the news, I wrote it too.

                  I perfectly understand both the domestic and foreign policy problems of both Armenia and Azerbaijan, which does not mean that I should write about them at every cross-forum. I write and say exactly as much as required.
                  1. 320sd
                    0
                    19 January 2013 13: 12
                    Should? It is unlikely. I was just interested to hear your opinion, since it seems to me that this year will be for Azerbaijan led by Aliyev, just a series of disappointments))) And one more question, who and for what beat Isa Gambar in Lankon (Lankaran) recently, in January 2013?
                    1. 416sd
                      +1
                      19 January 2013 13: 27
                      This year will be difficult both for Azerbaijan, and for Armenia (elections on the nose in the conditions of the most difficult foreign policy context), and for Georgia (transitional constitutional period, swinging of the foreign policy course).

                      Isa Gambar mongrel. He is always beaten. and they will beat. If someone in Armenia thinks that this is a figure, then he is mistaken. As to why he was beaten-the power is heterogeneous, as is the heterogeneous opposition. both in power and in opposition can be different people with different thinking and different tools of work.

                      No need to prove that this does not happen in Armenia. at least we never broke into parliament and did not shoot the presidium point-blank like you did in 1999, we didn’t shoot live ammunition at our people like you did in 2008. We beat Isa Gambar, you threaten Vardan Oskanyan with a criminal case .

                      You are presenting domestic politics as the key and the problem of Karabakh. We both know that this is not so. Regardless of who is in power in Armenia and Azerbaijan, the position on Karabakh will be the same. There are serious studies of third parties in this regard - in Armenia and Azerbaijan, among political parties and NGOs, 98% adhere to monolithically coinciding positions (i.e., Armenians at home, Azerbaijanis at home) regarding the Karabakh issue. For example, a study by the British organization LINKS.

                      There was one moment when we were close to the world - the last period of the LTP presidency. You were not given (just like that, "you were not given") to do this and it ended up being lower.

                      1. 320sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 13: 40
                        Elections are in full swing in Armenia. And pass democratically. True, Serge Sargsyan will become president again, but I personally would really like Rafi Hovhannisyan to become president. So we will go through our instability in February. And how hot will it be in Azerbaijan by September? However, the victory of Aliyev will be welcomed by the Armenians as their own victory, because no one has done more to turn Azerbaijan into what we now see as the Aliyev clan. Today's Azerbaijan reminds me of the saying "Even if a donkey is loaded with weapons, his wolf will eat it anyway"))))))
                        And while the Kurds: Aliyev, Mehdiyev and others like them will destroy Azerbaijan, you will wait for Lezgins to receive Lezgistan, Talysh to Talyshstan, Avars to Avarstan, Tsukhurs to Tsukhurstan, and Armenians to the rest of Bostan))))
                        By the way, we’ve already figured out why the commander of the police squad gave orders in Kurdish when dispersing the demonstration on the Fontanov Alley?
                      2. 416sd
                        -1
                        19 January 2013 14: 10
                        Elections are in full swing in Armenia. And pass democratically.
                        laughing

                        True, Serzh Sargsyan will become president again
                        laughing laughing

                        Who would doubt that...

                        As for everything else - the Oghuz, the Kurdish, the Lezgin and the Talysh are all components of the Azerbaijani people. go then, divide the Russian Vikings, the southern Slavs, Mordovians, Pomors, Tartars ... Regarding the fact that the attitude towards the issue will not change either for you or for us, regardless of domestic policy, I already wrote.

                        As for the Kurds, in 1918 there was such a man, Ildirim Amrah, a Kurdish elder from the Kalbajar region. From the clan of Chingiz Ildirim, a famous Bolshevik. He personally killed 450 Armenian fedayins. His name now bears the Azerbaijani bank "Amrah", which belongs to his descendants. For me, the Kurds of Azerbaijan are the same brothers as the Oghuz Karapapakhs.

                        The same applies to the other ethnic groups mentioned. The multi-ethnicity of Azerbaijan at first glance seems weak compared with the mono-ethnicity of Armenia. But actually it is power.

                        The rest are the tales of Woscanapat ...

                        Video with the police - editing. Made a year ago and for an unknown reason common to me a week ago, for some reason.
                      3. 320sd
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 14: 22
                        I can show the video where the commander of the Azerbaijani police squad submits a command to his subordinates not in the state language - Azerbaijan, but clearly pronounces these commands in Kurdish. And then the stories?
                        As for the Kurds, we can discuss the appearance on the map in the 60s of the Lachin region of the AzSSR, for example. With the aim of creating "Red Kurdistan")))))
                        And then, as always, they forgot Kurdistan, but a new region appeared in the Azerbaijan SSR, cutting off the opportunity for Karabakh to communicate with Armenia))) And there was nothing more, and there were plenty of Kurds in the Berdzor region.
                        And the PKK in Azerbaijan, an ally of Turkey, is still not a terrorist organization. Despite the gallant chants of September 2012
                      4. 416sd
                        +2
                        19 January 2013 14: 25
                        I answered you about the video, I saw it before you can be sure.
                        Red Kurdistan ended as it began. I think our relations with Turkey do not need the advice and comments of the Armenian side. The Turks themselves are not very itchy from this.
                      5. 320sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 14: 31
                        So you were in the Fountain Square, you saw, for sure, with your own eyes. Why do you need a video? )))
                      6. +1
                        19 January 2013 20: 12
                        Quote: 320sd

                        I can show the video where the commander of the Azerbaijani police squad submits a command to his subordinates not in the state language - Azerbaijan, but clearly pronounces these commands in Kurdish. And then the stories?
                        As for the Kurds, we can discuss the appearance on the map in the 60s of the Lachin region of the AzSSR, for example. With the aim of creating "Red Kurdistan")))))
                        And then, as always, they forgot Kurdistan, but a new region appeared in the Azerbaijan SSR, cutting off the opportunity for Karabakh to communicate with Armenia))) And there was nothing more, and there were plenty of Kurds in the Berdzor region.
                        And the PKK in Azerbaijan, an ally of Turkey, is still not a terrorist organization. Despite the gallant chants of September 2012

                        The danger is not the Kurds of Azerbaijan who have been living here for a long time. They are residents of Kelbajar and Kafan, they are specific Azerbaijanis. The problems will be those who were relocated to an independent Azerbaijan from Turkey. Here they are a danger. Such units from these representatives are in the Ministry of Internal Affairs because those outrages are radical the stratification will not make the majority. But Aliyev’s era will end the question of time. Libya and Egypt are examples of this, rulers are also long-livers and stable power and bang in a jiffy. And in Libya, the majority of the people were pleased, I talked personally with the Libyan military in St. Petersburg. Geidar Aliyev both the people and officials respected and were even more afraid. And the current one is enough to look at government meetings under G. Aliyev and I. Aliyev. With the eldest, fear was directly visible in the eyes of the officials, and with the current one, I don’t care at all, only Elchin Guliyev (the beginning .pogran troops) hard all writes in the black note.
                        By the way, your power is not better than ours. We can at least refer somewhere like Kurds somewhere in the blood of Armenians, but yours is purely Armenian. Therefore, our countries are lucky and argue who is less useless. They are worth each other.
                      7. Masyu
                        0
                        5 June 2015 00: 55
                        Xoteli napisat dermokratichno, da eto oni umeyut.
            2. Beck
              +17
              18 January 2013 16: 31
              The article is insane. To print, the author fantasized so much that Baron Munchausen was not standing nearby.

              What is the political leadership of Azerbaijan similar to the Russian Zhirinovsky, not only to sound nonsense, but also to think about it? This is from what patalyk, and from what hangover, and from what height the author of the article had to fall in order to ascribe to Azerbaijan the desire to fight with Russia and Iran, such as on two fronts. Opupil author. And why not write for PR.

              Azerbaijan is strengthening its armed forces, but any self-respecting state does this.

              And most importantly, on the basis of this inadequate article, some, here, will write comments in all seriousness. And referring to the article to accuse Azerbaijan of some treason. They will escalate hostility and raise questions as if as early as tomorrow Azerbaijan will attack Russia. These articles only further distant the former CIS republics.

              Here is an example from the lower comments.
              "Therefore, knowing the bestial and dastardly insides of most of the former neighbors in the USSR, one should always keep at hand a weighty demotivator from the activity of the latter."

              Similar comments appear in any article about a former republic. The main leitmotif of such komentov - All around the enemies. Former republics. Europe. Japan. USA. Zanzibar, Ceylon. Paraguay. Antarctic dolphins and polar bears of the Arctic. Well, right there is no living from enemies. And everyone has a bestial and vile inside.

              Here's how to live in such a mindset.
              1. -1
                18 January 2013 17: 14
                Beck

                Welcome hi
                I agree, the article is crazy!
                by the way this author’s not the first such article sad .
                ... In the long run (and even medium term) a conflict with ... Russia is possible. ... laughing


                Monaco case has not declared war on Russia?
                1. Beck
                  +4
                  18 January 2013 17: 28
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Welcome


                  And to you mine.

                  We are with you in some fundamental views on the existence of opponents. But you are a sensible and objective opponent. Correctly wrote about Monaco. And how could militarily compare Russia and Azerbaijan? And how did the idea come to mind that Azerbaijan could attack Russia. Military values ​​and in a microscope are incompatible.

                  In general, in sick fantasies, it can be assumed that Azerbaijan will attack Russia, but only as a suicidal attempt to suicide the political leadership of Azerbaijan.
                  1. 0
                    18 January 2013 19: 01
                    Beck

                    Quote: Beck
                    We are with you in some fundamental views on the existence of opponents.


                    This is not a hindrance to communication, but on the contrary increases the value of this communication itself.


                    Quote: Beck
                    And how could militarily compare Russia and Azerbaijan?


                    now thought what it is very likely that the author of the article specifically let trolling into the article so that it exploded with comments.
                    seriously write about such a threat? request maybe only a schoolboy dreamer.


                    Quote: Beck
                    to pretend that Azerbaijan will attack Russia, but only as a suicidal attempt to suicide the political leadership of Azerbaijan.


                    I agree, even a hypothetical consideration of such a question makes me smile lol
                  2. Predskazamus
                    0
                    20 June 2013 13: 58
                    ugaga Given that in the Moscow region more than 15 million people, which is 2 times more than my country))) The author just wants to play a bit)))
                2. mnn_12
                  +8
                  18 January 2013 22: 28
                  Unfortunately not delusional. Nobody invests billions or buys something for nothing. It is clear to everyone that now Russia is the defender of the current status and whoever wants to change the ego will be in conflict with her. As a person who has no addiction to the two countries, I can say that this conflict is the result of the collapse of the USSR. Armenians and Azeris would still live peacefully and neighborly if there was no betrayal called "perestroika".
                  Unfortunately, this conflict is now being used as a means of pressure and no one is trying to really resolve the ego.
                  Armenians carried out genocide against Azerbaijanis (Khojaly genocide)

                  Very interesting Armenian position here. They claim that the Azeris themselves did this for political reasons and that this happened in the territory controlled by the Azeris. If this is indeed so, then it is very reminiscent of the latest data about Srebrenica. By handwriting it is possible to recognize the same author of these scenarios.
                  1. 416sd
                    +2
                    18 January 2013 23: 17
                    Nonsense, especially since it was controlled by the territory.
                    Another question is that we used it in internal political showdowns. but to carry out the genocide itself is the old Armenian position. By the way, President Sargsyan said in an interview to Thomas de Waal, "Before Khojaly, the Azerbaijanis thought they could joke with us. In Khojaly we broke this stereotype." Then the truth is a hundred times denied but the word is not a sparrow.
                    1. mnn_12
                      +4
                      19 January 2013 03: 04
                      As far as I read the Armenian version, Khojaly is a military defeat of Azeri. From the words you quote, you can assume that the president had this in mind and not the bloody massacre of peaceful refugees.
                      The worst thing is that, despite who did this, it turned the normalization of the attitude of Armenians and Azeris into a very difficult task. And who really committed the crime and who planned the ego sooner or later, history will show. And I hope that the Armenians or Azeris under the control of the CIA will be executed without significance.
                      1. 320sd
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 03: 21
                        Please see the material at the link http://rubsev.ru/2012/03/oleg-rusin-xodzhaly-i-srebrenica-istoricheskaya-pravda-
                        protiv-virtualnyx-genocidov /

                        Excellent coverage of events in Srebrenica and Khojaly. Parallels and comparisons. Only the beginning is not in Srebrenica. Start in Cyprus in the seventies.
                      2. 0
                        19 January 2013 03: 36
                        320sd

                        Is everything all right with your head?
                      3. 320sd
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 03: 40
                        I haven’t complained yet. And you?
                        I look at the speed of reading, you also have no problems)))
                        There the text is not small, but you have already read and made conclusions))))
                      4. 416sd
                        +3
                        19 January 2013 13: 43
                        Khojaly was about to happen ... Everything went to this ... But no matter how cruel it was - this is a lesson, and Sargsyan was right in an interview with de Waal.

                        The war in Azerbaijan was morally lost already in 1992, military-strategic in 1993. All that after - only increased the victims ... On the Omar pass of ours from a thousand to three thousand lie in the ground.

                        The problem is that in 1994, the Armenians were not supposed to stop and drag down to the Kura. They were supposed to destroy the Azerbaijani state. and access to Kura solved such a problem. They stopped. Why did they stop - the answer to this question is the answer to who controlled the Armenians and what this puppeteer was interested in - the conflict forever or the victory of one of the parties.

                        The Azerbaijani state was severely bitten, but it has changed, strengthened, it is no longer a gang of bearded men as in the 1990s, and Armenia has earned itself hemorrhoids for a long eternity. Even if there is no war, Armenia will not be able to withstand another ten years of confrontation. of course, no one swells with hunger in Armenia, but the effect of isolation is evident ...

                        Moreover, the shouts of Chingiz Mustafayev on the Lachin highway, catching deserters "You are not men, you are cowards, you are women!" ringing in everyone's ears ... The Armenians got an evil neighbor with 9 million population, a 30 billion budget, a colossal inferiority complex and an army of 150 thousand.

                        In my opinion, Karabakh is a solvable issue. Moreover, resolved and peacefully in the interests of both parties. But whether he will decide peacefully I do not know. It all depends on external actors. The Karabakh issue will be resolved only if both states resolve the issue one on one, whether in a peaceful or military sense ... So Karabakh is not only an instrument of pressure on Azerbaijan, it is also an instrument of pressure on Armenia, for which it became a suitcase without a handle .
                      5. 320sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 14: 01
                        Khojaly should have happened

                        Yes. For two reasons:
                        1) The Armenians had to suppress the firing points, from which the daily, destructive for the civilian population, shelling of Stepanakert from BM-21 and modified Alazan hail strikers was carried out.
                        2) In the village of Khojalu (now Ivanyan) was the only airport.
                        Naturally, these two reasons were the most compelling reason from a military point of view for the operation to liberate Khojaly.
                      6. 416sd
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 14: 19
                        I didn’t know that at our firing points there were 60 old women and 2 summer babies ... laughing
                      7. 320sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 14: 28
                        And then these
                        60 year old women and 2 year old babies
                        , turning off the provided corridor, bypassing Askeran on the left, by the order of Yakub Rzvaev from Shelley, we entered the front line of the Armenian post with a machine gunner and machine gunner in the vicinity of the village of Nakhichevanik and destroyed! his laughing
                      8. 416sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 14: 33
                        Nonsense ... Again, at the Armenian forums in the Armenian language and in their circle they write something completely different ...
                      9. 320sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 14: 59
                        You are proud of the heroes of Azerbaijan.
                        Can you tell me who is the first hero of Independent Azerbaijan?
                        How did he and his battalion become famous during the capture and ruin of the village of Maraga in April 1992? People were burned, dismembered, torn apart by equipment. You can see it in the film of Baroness Caroline Cox. If the nerves are strong.
                      10. aray
                        -1
                        20 January 2013 16: 17
                        Quote: 416sd
                        The problem is that in 1994, the Armenians were not supposed to stop and drag down to the Kura. They were supposed to destroy the Azerbaijani state. and access to Kura solved such a problem. They stopped. Why did they stop - the answer to this question is the answer to who controlled the Armenians and what this puppeteer was interested in - the conflict forever or the victory of one of the parties.

                        I forgot how they asked on the knees of the world? You have a very long language, but a short memory. Nothing, next time, let's get (

                        Quote: 416sd

                        Khojaly was about to happen ... Everything went to this ... But no matter how cruel it was - this is a lesson, and Sargsyan was right in an interview with de Waal.

                        By Khojaly.
                        Are you familiar with the resolution of the State of Texas, according to Khojaly? If you are familiar, do you completely agree with the sney?
                      11. 416sd
                        +3
                        20 January 2013 22: 31
                        yes even a resolution from Vidal Sasun sponsored by your refrigerator. Also referred to, Texas Mlyn ...
                      12. aray
                        -1
                        20 January 2013 22: 51
                        Quote: 416sd

                        yes even a resolution from Vidal Sasun sponsored by your refrigerator. Also referred to, Texas Mlyn ...

                        Is that all you were capable of? It was so loud in the forum for the second day, and did not answer any of my questions (below in the post) on Khojaly ((
                        This is sad. That's all your truth. I think everyone saw it. ((
                        hi
                      13. aray
                        +3
                        20 January 2013 17: 07
                        Quote: 416sd
                        Khojaly should have happened ...


                        So, here is Texas State Resolution No. 535.
                        Quote:
                        "Resolution No. 535, adopted by representatives of the chamber of this state, sharply criticizes the mass extermination of the civilian population of this city by the Armenian armed forces and the Russian army, trying to escape from the Armenian occupation."
                        http://garabagh.net/content_279_ru.html

                        Another resolution:

                        Quote:
                        "On behalf of the state of New Jersey, we express solidarity with the US Azerbaijanis Network and with everyone who commemorates the 20th anniversary of the terrible tragedy of the Nagorno-Karabakh war - the Khojaly genocide, during which hundreds of ethnic Azerbaijanis were killed by Armenians and Russian soldiers who tried to flee. "

                        Here is another one
                        Quote:
                        "In March 2012, the House of Representatives of the State of Maine of the United States of America adopted a resolution in connection with the 20th anniversary of the Khojaly genocide. The adoption of this resolution was initiated by Member of the House of Representatives Anne Haskell and Senator from Maine Justin Alfond.
                        The document states that on February 26, 1992, the Armenian armed forces, with the support of the 366th motorized rifle regiment, committed genocide - they occupied the city of Khojaly, where they killed hundreds of innocent Azerbaijanis. As a result of the genocide, 613 people were killed, 487 were wounded and 1275 people were taken hostage. The fate of most of them is still unknown. "
                        http://garabagh.net/content_279_ru.html

                        There are a lot of them. Armenian troops and the 366th Russian regiment are mentioned everywhere.
                        Give an answer to my questions.
                        1) Why does Azerbaijan refuse a joint investigation with the Russian side regarding the participation of the 366th regiment?
                        2) Why does Azerbaijan not officially present the same claims on the genocide in Khojaly to the Russian side? As we see in the resolutions (by the way, on the official website of "Azerbaijan Republic"), Russia is also mentioned !?
                        3) How many people from the officers of the 366th regiment were put on the wanted list, or were arrested and convicted?
                        4) How could your helicopter land in the territory controlled by the Armenians, with a journalist on board, accompanied by officers of your army?
                        5) Why did the Armenians leave these corpses as clear evidence of a war crime.
                        6) Why Ilham Aliyev is negotiating with a person (Serzh Sargsyan), who is on your wanted list as a participant in the Khojaly event.
                        7) and finally, how do you comment on the statement of Ayatollah Ameli, who told a very interesting version about the events in Khojaly: Quote:
                        "Ergenekon and Mossad were behind all this."


                        http://odlar-yurdu.ru/index.php?newsid=3308

                        I hope you have reasonable answers.
                      14. aray
                        0
                        20 January 2013 17: 11
                        And here is the full text of Ayatol Ameli.

                        According to the Iranian news agency “Arannews” news agency recently, the representative of Iran’s spiritual leader, Ayatollah imam-jumah of the city of Ardabil, Seyid Hassan Ameli, made sensational revelations about the events in Khojaly. He said that in order to suppress Iran’s activity on the side of Azerbaijan during the Karabakh war, Israeli intelligence created the Ergenekon organization in Turkey. It was stated that, allegedly under the pretext of helping Azerbaijan in the Karabakh conflict, Iran is creating a new Hezbollah organization, and this process must be urgently stopped.

                        The implementation of this mission was entrusted in Turkey to General Veli Kuciuc, an ethnic Azerbaijani, and a plan was developed in a short time. Under the leadership of V. Kyuchyuk, a special organization is being created in Azerbaijan to prepare a coup d'etat.

                        “For the successful implementation of the coup, big losses were needed at the front, in the literal sense, a heavy tragedy was needed. It was under such conditions that the Khojaly tragedy was staged. I talked a lot about this in my sermons and they accused me of blaming the Azerbaijani people for this. But I didn’t mean the whole people, but the traitor politicians, ”Amelie said and added that this tragedy left a mark on the reputation of the Azerbaijani people.

                        It is known that a few days after the Khojaly events, Azerbaijani President Ayaz Mutalibov was overthrown. “Mutalibov was under the auspices of the Russians. Should the Russians overthrow Elchibey in power by his overthrow? Clearly not, and the coup was against the pro-Russian leadership. As they explained, it was an insidious plan to suppress the activation of Iran on the Karabakh front, implemented on the blood of innocent people. “Ergenekon” was behind all this, but in fact, “Mossad,” the imam said.

                        Amelie also added that the Ergenekon crime folder is being opened page by page today, accompanied by revelations of the traitors. However, the part concerning Azerbaijan is always hushed up. “Veli Kuchyuki, as well as his Turkish and Azerbaijani accomplices are not being interrogated in connection with the events in Khojaly. Azerbaijan easily passed through a coup d'etat, and its participants today occupy high positions in parliament and the presidential apparatus. It’s an unpleasant situation when the real organizers of the Khojaly tragedy pretend that they are making every effort to bring information about it to the world community. You get so stiff from this, ”the imam is indignant.


                        http://odlar-yurdu.ru/index.php?newsid=3308
                      15. aray
                        0
                        20 January 2013 17: 13
                        Continuation of the article by Amelie.

                        The head of the Supreme Court of Iran, Musevi Ardebili, during a visit to Azerbaijan through the late Haji Alikram, met with one of the leaders of the popular movement and offered close cooperation in various fields, including in the Karabakh issue. However, the offer of help was rejected, and Ardebili received the answer "I will come to Iran, only to proclaim Tabriz the capital of Azerbaijan."

                        “The late Rovshan Javadov mentioned an interesting nuance in a conversation with the Tabriz general helping him. He said that after the coup and the inauguration, the president first met with him, and he thought he would be asked about the plan to capture Karabakh, but during the conversation the president pointed to a folder on the table and said: “We know everything about your cooperation with Iran (this folder was sent from Israel to Turkey, and then to Azerbaijan). From today, you must end all communications. We do not need Iran’s help. If I find out that we will return Karabakh with the help of Iran, I will give these lands to the Armenians. Karabakh is not a serious problem and will find its solution in a short time. We are at war with Iran and must prepare for war against it. Our real enemies are not Armenians, but Iranians, ”the president said.

                        After that, everything changed: cooperation ceased, aid was rejected and the Iranian military were arrested, who arrived at the invitation of the Azerbaijani side for cooperation in the joint headquarters. It was very strange that they were interrogated by investigators who arrived from Turkey and Israel, ”Amelie said.
                        “Having felt the influence of Iran at the front, a group of politicians gathered and, giving the distance to the Turkish-Israeli scam, arranged Khojaly events,” the imam said and emphasized that the Azerbaijani authorities allow Israel to deploy an intelligence network and open an embassy, ​​as well as Israeli statesmen openly declare that Azerbaijan is for them the most convenient point for attacking Iran.
                        http://odlar-yurdu.ru/index.php?newsid=3308
                      16. aray
                        0
                        20 January 2013 17: 31
                        Yes, and the last 8th question.
                        What will happen to the peaceful Azerbaijani population, the case of a full-scale war? As we know, hundreds of thousands of people live in villages and districts around the perimeter of the Armenian-Azerbaijani border ?!
                        You can even get it out of the slingshot, if you wish. How will you protect them from mass deaths? Or will you kill them again, like in Khojaly, to scream to the whole world again?
                        Do you think about them when chatting about the war on the forums? This is not spacious Russia, where a German once every 100 km found a village. There everything is close, thick. Answer this question too.
                        Thank you!
                        hi
                      17. 416sd
                        +1
                        20 January 2013 22: 55
                        I already wrote above that I don’t have the habit of giving lectures on the network on the readiness of the military-industrial complex of Azerbaijan, the civil defense system and the Ministry of Emergencies and other structures to resolve the Karabakh issue if necessary by military means.

                        Are you asking me questions and blaming me for chatting?
                        Should we continue the discussion or not?
                      18. 416sd
                        +1
                        20 January 2013 22: 52
                        about the resolution - you have paid a lot of those around the world :) I do not care about them all, I asked why no state and not a state, including Armenia itself, would not recognize "Nkr" ...

                        Next:

                        1 - 2. Because such a request is obviously doomed to failure, there will be no result, but the hype in the media will seriously undermine relations with the Russian Federation. On fig? as for the fact that these cattle calmly walk today as retired majors at their farms in Krasnodar and Sochi, revenge is a dish served cold ...
                        3. Not at all arrested. And there are many reasons for this, mainly related to foreign policy. Nothing, my generation will solve this issue. We’ll steal one at a time.

                        4. Dozens of times the question of the corridor and where exactly the fire was fired at from the crowds of Khojaly coming out was touched upon in the research. In addition, the mass of representatives of the Armenian political establishment, from the president to field commanders, is not just an operation to capture the city, but precisely targeted genocide. For example, Monte Melkonyan’s brother Markar Melkonyan. In his book: Markar Melkonian. My Brother's Road: An American's Fateful Journey to Armenia. Pages 213-214. IB Tauris, London, 2005. or the same quote-blunders of Sargsyan to Thomas de Waal.

                        5. Why did they leave the bodies? We will steal and deliver the culprits to the tank, tell us why they left.

                        6. Because this insignificance is the head of your state, and the head of our state is forced to speak and negotiate with this insignificance.

                        7. I do not comment on Ayatollah, I am not fond of witchcraft and conspiracy theories; Mossad and Ergenekon agents were not seen at the posts when leaving Khojaly.
                      19. aray
                        -2
                        20 January 2013 23: 35
                        Quote: 416sd
                        1 - 2. Because such a request is obviously doomed to failure, there will be no result, but the hype in the media will seriously undermine relations with the Russian Federation. On fig?

                        So it turns out that with the state that allegedly participated in the massacre of your people, you should not spoil the relationship? As you say, in FIG? No comments!

                        Quote: 416sd
                        3. Not at all arrested. And there are many reasons for this, mainly related to foreign policy. Nothing, my generation will solve this issue. We’ll steal one at a time.

                        Empty chatter! negative

                        Quote: 416sd
                        4. Dozens of times the question of the corridor and where exactly the fire was fired at from the crowds of Khojaly coming out was touched upon in the research. In addition, the mass of representatives of the Armenian political establishment, from the president to field commanders, is not just an operation to capture the city, but precisely targeted genocide. For example, Monte Melkonyan’s brother Markar Melkonyan.

                        Empty chatter again negative
                        "4) How could your helicopter land on the territory controlled by Armenians, with a journalist on board, accompanied by officers of your army?" - that's my question. You really wrote a flood ((
                        Quote: 416sd
                        5. Why did they leave the bodies? We will steal and deliver to Baku
                        the culprits will be told why they left.

                        Chatter. Cheap chatter ((I don’t even want to comment negative

                        Hmm. You turn out to be a simple troll)))
                        hi
                      20. Predskazamus
                        -1
                        20 June 2013 14: 08
                        you are smart !! We have enough guys to turn the lives of Armenians abroad into hellish life. you just need to follow the example of the Terorganization of Assal. The Armenians have strengthened and have already found themselves abroad. A carefully thought-out operation of hundreds of such politicians. and the ridge will be broken.
                  2. +1
                    18 January 2013 23: 21
                    mnn_12

                    Quote: mnn_12
                    Unfortunately not crazy. Nobody invests billions or buys something for nothing.


                    if a country has money, if the leadership of this country analyzes the situation in the world, in its region (a hint of Iran), if the country has territorial unresolved disputes, ---- that it is arming itself, purchasing the latest weapons and equipment is an indicator of its militaristic ambition?

                    Any normal country should constantly update its arsenals and build up the power of its armed forces.

                    Personally, I would rather blame Switzerland for militarism than Azerbaijan.
                    Azerbaijan to Switzerland still stomp and stomp.


                    Quote: mnn_12
                    They claim that the Azeris themselves did this for political reasons and that this happened in the territory controlled by the Azeris.


                    blood feud has already begun there, and it’s difficult for them to talk to each other.
                    and of course they will blame each other for all troubles, stating at the same time that they themselves are pure like lambs.


                    Quote: mnn_12
                    By handwriting it is possible to recognize the same author of these scenarios.


                    England began to pursue such a policy until it became small Britain, now the United States.
                    nothing is new under the moon.
                  3. Predskazamus
                    -1
                    20 June 2013 14: 01
                    Dear Armenian under the guise of Belarusians Not Armenians and Azerbaijanis .. and Armenians and Azerbaijanis.
              2. 416sd
                +1
                18 January 2013 18: 02
                Beck

                WHAT! Sorry HERE NO BUTTONS +100500 hi
                1. +3
                  18 January 2013 23: 26
                  416sd hi

                  because of conscious, as I personally think, pedaling - trolling this topic by the author of the article, and I’m not even afraid to call it a provocation, you are respected Yarbay you will be mined - purely for your patriotism.
                  Brace yourself wink drinks soldier .
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    18 January 2013 23: 38
                    Quote: Karlsonn
                    You, with respectable Yarbay, will be bombarded - purely for your patriotism

                    Dorga Carlson, you know the cons from the drum, I just wonder what people think!
                    I don’t care who is on whose side, I’m interested in motives and arguments !!
                    You understand very well that little is globally dependent on all of us, but it’s interesting to know each other’s position and his arguments!
                    1. +4
                      19 January 2013 00: 27
                      Yarbay

                      Dear Yarbay, and I don’t give a damn about the likes, actually, it’s sad that people so easily give in to provocation.
                      I perceive the relations between Azerbaijan and Armenia as the Civil War (if you have not forgotten I am a Russian, Soviet chauvinist-imperialist).
                      It is strange for me to see people rejoicing that their Motherland is "weighed down with trunks" while denying this right to others. in Russian it is called double-dealing.
                      Personally, I know from your father about the events in you and I strongly doubt that Azerbaijan will attack Armenia (which has a military base in Russia).

                      It’s unpleasant for me that the author of the article used a provocative method to explode comments, it is stupid than the threat of Russia from Azerbaijan and it’s hard to come up with.

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      I'm interested in motives and arguments !!


                      ... if you believe the eyes and ears (in this world) of crazy people several times more ...


                      Quote: Yarbay
                      You understand very well that little depends on us all


                      everything depends on us, in fact.


                      Quote: Yarbay
                      but to know each other’s position and his arguments is interesting!


                      I would say - it is necessary and useful.
                      1. Yarbay
                        +4
                        19 January 2013 00: 36
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        everything depends on us, in fact.

                        The worst thing is that we are increasingly moving away from each other, I'm not talking about countries, but about people !!
                        I mean all the republics !!
                        I am sure of one thing, that only a strong Russia can be the guarantor of world peace and resist the march of the masses !!
                      2. +2
                        19 January 2013 01: 20
                        Yarbay

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        The worst thing is that we are increasingly moving away from each other, I'm not talking about countries, but about people !!


                        I would like to look at the one who will stand between me - the Russian, who lives in the Russian city of Kiev and you, although I am lightweight, but nevertheless I have risen from the level of the CCM of the USSR over the years, I think the one who tries to interfere between us - health will not be enough.


                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I mean all the republics !!


                        unfortunately, after the collapse of the USSR, we are forced to fight on two fronts, with enemies external and internal sad .
                        it is difficult to predict something, but nonetheless, if you come to Kiev you will have a great time, I guarantee; and it seems to me that in Baku and Yerevan they will welcome me as cordially.

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I am sure of one thing, that only a strong Russia can be the guarantor of world peace and resist the march of the masses !!


                        I don’t know about the whole world, but it is in your region.
                      3. +3
                        19 January 2013 01: 31
                        Yarbay

                        looking at this



                        at the same time, as a Soviet man remembering this Hero



                        Musa Hiramanovich Manarov


                        Musa khiramanovich manarov

                        Sequence number - 206 (63)
                        Number of flights - 2
                        Flight duration - 541 days 0 hours 31 minutes 10 seconds
                        Number of spacewalks - 7
                        The duration of work in outer space is 34 hours 23 minutes.

                        Status - Cosmonaut NPO Energia

                        http://www.astronaut.ru/as_rusia/energia/text/manarov.htm?reload_coolmenus

                        I really want to pick up a machete am . In order to arrange the violent in the Chekist order.
                      4. -2
                        21 January 2013 09: 36
                        He flew in Soviet times, but now he would sell tomatoes at best. "I want to take a machete in my hands" - I want to take it, but do not throw "cheap show-off".
                      5. Yarbay
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 01: 41
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        I would like to look at the one who will stand between me - the Russian, who lives in the Russian city of Kiev and you, although I am lightweight, but nevertheless I have risen from the level of the CCM of the USSR over the years, I think the one who tries to interfere between us - health will not be enough.

                        I am not about you with us!
                        I am about new generations who did not see what we saw !!
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        it is difficult to predict something, but nonetheless, if you come to Kiev you will have a great time, I guarantee; and it seems to me that in Baku and Yerevan they will welcome me as cordially.

                        I was in Kiev twice!
                        I forever remembered the warmth and cordiality of those who met me and the goodwill of people !!
                        I was shocked and surprised at how friendly people are to each other !!
                        I remember the city smiling !!
                        Of course, in our city you are sure to be greeted with hospitality, we love guests, I think in Yerevan too!
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        I don’t know about the whole world, but it is in your region.
                        It is sure of the whole world, because besides Russia, not one country has such a mentality!
                      6. +2
                        19 January 2013 02: 10
                        Yarbay

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I am about new generations who did not see what we saw !!


                        these representatives of the new will have to reckon with us for some time.


                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I was in Kiev twice!


                        come again! drinks


                        Quote: Yarbay
                        , we love guests, I think in Yerevan too!


                        nice to chat with an adequate person.


                        Quote: Yarbay
                        It is sure of the whole world, because besides Russia, not one country has such a mentality!


                        as a communist I sincerely believe in Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood!

                        as a communist, I sincerely hope that the Azerbaijani and Armenian peoples have enough will, wisdom and patience to make an over-will effort and leave blood and grievances behind, yet you have been living side by side for centuries.

                        as a Russian - Soviet - imperialist chauvinist, I sincerely hope that peace will come on your long-suffering land.
                      7. +1
                        23 January 2013 03: 31
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        as a communist I sincerely believe in Freedom, Equality and Brotherhood!

                        I sincerely hope that the Azerbaijani and Armenian peoples have enough will, wisdom and patience to make an over-will effort and leave blood and grievances behind, yet you have been living side by side for centuries.

                        as a Russian - Soviet - imperialist chauvinist, I sincerely hope that peace will come on your long-suffering land.

                        SUBSCRIBE TO EACH YOUR WORD ...

                        YarbayYou know the cons from the drum, I just wonder what people think!
                        I don’t care who is on whose side, I’m interested in motives and arguments !!
                        You understand very well that little is globally dependent on all of us, but it’s interesting to know each other’s position and his arguments!


                        AND UNDER YOUR ALSO ...! ! !
                      8. Predskazamus
                        0
                        20 June 2013 14: 14
                        I live in Kiev I struggle with stereotypes))) is complicated. !!
                    2. +1
                      19 January 2013 01: 41
                      Yarbay

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      I'm interested in motives and arguments !!



                      Quote: Yarbay
                      but to know each other’s position and his arguments is interesting!


                      to be honest, if there were more of those who shot and those who shot people themselves, the discussion would be completely different.
                      1. Yarbay
                        +2
                        19 January 2013 02: 08
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        to be honest, if there were more of those who shot and those who shot people themselves, the discussion would be completely different.

                        Maybe you're right!
                        For some reason I remember one koment not here, but in the forum, in my opinion, his nickname was Ward, where he wrote about local customs, about users, about topics! It was written a very long time ago!
                        So there he was struck by his words that they say at least a military site, but the military is not enough here !!
                        More and more often these words come to my mind!
                      2. +1
                        19 January 2013 02: 35
                        Yarbay

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        So there he was struck by his words that they say at least a military site, but the military is not enough here !!


                        I, as a native of the KGB family, can reasonably fight on the topic of state security, my comrade Kars will score anyone in tanks, artillery and ammunition, I can still cover the fleet;
                        I learned all that I know about the conflict between your people and the Armenians from telling my father, who separated you at the end of the 80s, then participated in the aftermath of the earthquake, then he already had to fight, because hatred and mutual insults went beyond good and evil.



                        Quote: Yarbay
                        So there he was struck by his words that they say at least a military site, but the military is not enough here !!


                        what about this recourse - how many comments already? - 440?

                        if at least every tenth came under fire, he would have been on the battlefield - not for fun, but seriously Yarbay You would rip a bunch of likes today.

                        I personally - believe in the friendship of peoples.
                        war - I consider it a disgusting pastime.
                        theoreticians - kungfu, who have never been shot at - I keep it for nothing!

                        question for Experts "sig-sauer" 556 is almost exactly copied from AK, why almost?
                        hint - who copied the SVT-40.
                  2. +1
                    19 January 2013 01: 34
                    416sd

                    oh, they started to minus me too, which cannot but rejoice bully .
                    1. 416sd
                      +1
                      19 January 2013 11: 23
                      What to minus? Whom? When?
                      I went in once at night so that Alibek didn’t understand what you mean
                  3. +4
                    19 January 2013 03: 11
                    Quote: Karlsonn
                    You, with respectable Yarbay, will be ravaged - purely for your patriotism.
                    Brace yourself with wink drinks soldier.

                    So far they’re minus you negative I tried to fix to the best of my ability hi
                    1. +3
                      19 January 2013 03: 29
                      Ruslan67

                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      So far they’re minus you


                      yes, figs, I'm off-bragging - on death more than once went on
                      children who were not under mortar fire, their opinion interests me little.


                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      I tried to fix to the best of my ability


                      thanks of course, but fools are treated with kicks in the ass ..

                      let the fools minus how much their soul desires.
                      1. +2
                        19 January 2013 03: 40
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        fools are treated with kicks in the ass ..

                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        let the fools minus how much their soul desires.

                        First you find them to give a kick. And with the minuses, it’s not so simple as it seems, take a moment and we’ll already have skulls on shoulder straps. How will it look for those who go to the site for the first time?
                  4. 416sd
                    +1
                    19 January 2013 14: 21
                    Three months ago I had a colonel rating ... Yesterday I was a sergeant ...
                    Today it has changed several times ... I do not care about my rating on the forums, I say what I think without insults.
                2. Beck
                  +5
                  19 January 2013 14: 46
                  Quote: 416sd
                  CALL!


                  Well, how else, to respond to nonsense.
              3. Region65
                +1
                19 January 2013 13: 55
                Beck :) you forgot to include aliens in the list of enemies, the planet Nibiru, the underwater inhabitants of the Earth, the sub-soil inhabitants of the Moon, and so on :) in short of all those who are snatched to us under the guise of "enemies" on TV :))))
          2. +16
            18 January 2013 10: 58
            Quote: Yarbay
            to whom ??
            Russia ??? this is not serious!
            Over the past years, Baku has not taken a single friendly Russian step ... Which accordingly led to a cooling of relations .. Moreover, the ousting of the Russian army from the Caucasus, problems in the Caspian, flirting with Turkey and Israel, and a lot of things have not been forgotten ... It’s clear that we won’t fight, but Baku is aimed at northern Iran (look at the cards in the native bookstore) .. And what about the calls to change the name to Northern Azerbaijan? So the southern ones are the oil-bearing regions of Iran?
            1. -3
              18 January 2013 11: 02
              Quote: older
              Over the past years, Baku has not taken a single friendly Russian step


              And what did Russia do? He doesn’t even allow the Armenian team to leave at least 7 regions of Azerbaijan
            2. Yarbay
              -2
              18 January 2013 11: 46
              Quote: older
              Over the past years, Baku has not taken a single friendly Russian step

              It begets me, such thinking ???
              And why should Azerbaijan do something?
              Russia or Azerbaijan in alliance with the enemy of the neighbor ??
              And what has Russia done for Azerbaijan ??
              What did you do to make Azerbaijan closer ??
              And Azerbaijan did and does!
              Quote: older
              It’s clear that we will not fight, but Baku is aimed at northern Iran

              stupid things !!
              what's in the cards ??
              1. +15
                18 January 2013 12: 18
                Quote: Yarbay
                And Azerbaijan did and does!


                Alikbek! The main thing is that the infection of radical Islamism does not spread in Azerbaijan and among Azerbaijanis. Everything else is not scary in our relations. Here is an interesting film by Daria Aslamova about modern Azerbaijan. An interesting comparison of Armenians with Jews and Armenia with Israel. Although the anti-Russian rhetoric of politicians and the accusations of Russia still will not lead to anything good. An example of Georgia.

                1. Yarbay
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 12: 38
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  The main thing is that the infection of radical Islamism does not spread in Azerbaijan and among Azerbaijanis

                  Fortunately, management understands the importance of this issue, and the law enforcement agencies are doing their job well!
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  Here is an interesting movie

                  I can see in the evening!
                  I read what she wrote in the Komsomol!
                2. 416sd
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 12: 45
                  The person speaking in this video just doesn’t treat the Russian Federation very well ...
                  1. +8
                    18 January 2013 12: 56
                    Quote: 416sd
                    The person speaking in this video just doesn’t treat the Russian Federation very well ...


                    The main idea is at the end of the film. Who will be stronger than Russia or the United States, then Azerbaijan should follow. Russia is the "old" colonizer that eternally suppresses the desire of the Azerbaijani nation for self-determination and development in favor of Armenian chauvinism, while the "new" colonizer America will act exclusively in Azerbaijani interests and will help resolve the NK issue that Russia cannot or does not want to resolve. And of course, interests in Iran coincide. This is the vector that prevails today in the minds of the political leadership and elite of Azerbaijan.
                    1. 416sd
                      +18
                      18 January 2013 13: 10
                      Someone has the opinion that Russia is a colonizer. But colonization is different. There is a British - after the British there remains a billion hungry Indians with the robbed heritage of India. Universities, academies, schools, factories, intellectuals remain after the Russian colonialists ... People who seriously study the process of forming Azerbaijanis as a people understand that Azerbaijanis as a people were formed within the Russian Empire. And if there were no Russians, there would be no such nation as Azerbaijanis, they would assimilate among the Ottomans and Persians. Aydin Balaev wrote about this in his monographs, and Bunyadov wrote, and Ashurbeyli wrote ... Ilgar Mammadov says that he doesn’t understand this in the video, he is regarded here as a clearly pro-American frame.
                      1. Salumid
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 02: 00
                        Unfortunately, some people understand the term "intelligentsia" as a command of the Russian language and Russian culture. Azerbaijan has always had an independent culture and language. It is precisely "thanks to" the unequal Union with Russia that Azerbaijan has lagged behind in development for several decades for more than 70 years. If today Azerbaijan for some 10 years has gone from a small, unknown vassal of Russia to a State capable of influencing the entire economy and politics of the Caucasus region, this is due to its independence from Russia and despite ALL obstacles that Russia is erecting today.
                        It was Russian propaganda that introduced into the brain of those who assimilated that there would be no Azerbaijanis in Russia. Another 50 years of the union and it would be real
                      2. 416sd
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 11: 25
                        No need to generalize, no one understands the word intelligentsia only under the Russian language (especially in our time, this factor is reduced). But he plays a significant, non-determining, but significant role. Will you argue that in the Russian sectors of schools and universities education is not better than in Azerbaijan?
                      3. +1
                        19 January 2013 20: 35
                        Quote: 416sd
                        No need to generalize, no one understands the word intelligentsia only under the Russian language (especially in our time, this factor is reduced). But he plays a significant, non-determining, but significant role. Will you argue that in the Russian sectors of schools and universities education is not better than in Azerbaijan?

                        you yourself pointed out that it’s Russian culture and all that. Secondly, the Russian sector is no better than the az. Only there they speak Russian better and with a stupid bi-directional accent arrived yeah)) The Turkish sector is better. And the thing is not that the Turkish system is better They have less corruption and at least drive in the head, and in others money is paid off. The most educated in our groups from each country was the Moldovan who graduated from the Turkish gymnasium, among the Tajiks who also graduated from the Turkish gymnasium and the Kyrgyz did the same. here is such statistics that I watched lchino.and the Mongols also praised their cadets who were trained in Turkey. And we have the same guys in Turkey, even the most stupid ones had basic knowledge. And those who are in Russia for 5 years of studying in Russian read the rules because they couldn’t buy it. The same thing in the army, our cadets at the artillery academy in St. Petersburg told how they insisted that they would graduate from the Turkish military academy by creating Azerbaijani cadets.
                        In general, a person who wants to get knowledge will receive it.
                        as our colonel said, well, Azerbaijanis would not be able to come to the Turkish colonels with you. Comrade Colonel. It’s bad to know Russian, they would have sikim you through sorts and trenches.
                    2. Yarbay
                      -2
                      18 January 2013 13: 17
                      Quote: Ascetic
                      Russia is an "old" colonialist who eternally suppresses the desire of the Azerbaijani nation for self-determination and development in favor of Armenian chauvinism,

                      There are no fools here, it is clear to everyone that this is done due to the short-sightedness of Russian politicians, and first of all, to please themselves!
                      Quote: Ascetic
                      And the "new" colonizer America will act exclusively in the interests of Azerbaijan and will help resolve the NK issue
                      this is the level of Aslamova, and not the leadership of Azerbaijan!
                      Azerbaijan knows very well what the Americans are capable of and I am sure our leadership is aware of who it is dealing with !!

                      Quote: Ascetic
                      This is the vector that prevails in the minds of the political leadership and elite of Azerbaijan.
                      You are deeply mistaken!
                      If not with Russia, this does not mean that with the United States!
                      1. +30
                        18 January 2013 14: 40
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        this is the level of Aslamova, and not the leadership of Azerbaijan!
                        Azerbaijan knows very well what the Americans are capable of and I am sure our leadership is aware of who it is dealing with !!


                        When MP Musabekov in all seriousness declares that US ten times stronger than Russia to put it mildly, it puzzles the competence of a politician. He probably still is at least in 2007 and not in 2013.
                        It was just in 2007 that I took part in testing new equipment for the country's top leadership, and observed on-line for six months the real location of our nuclear submarines. ships and american. The sight that there really was a soul-giving left a depressing impression. I remember the despondency reigned at all the meetings, only on-duty phrases came from above, write applications, no dekneg, look for your own reserves. So they bought on the Mitinsky market the necessary radio components to replenish consumable spare parts. The mood was such that for a couple of years, we too were killed. Now at present, if you imagine this huge scoreboard in your mind, the situation looks completely different, YES patrolling, nuclear submarines off the coast of the United States, our ships in the Mediterranean Sea have for some time already been called ARMADA in some media. I am already silent about the Strategic Missile Forces, which sat for 20 years without new rockets. And now? And not so much time has passed just some 5-6 years. Musabekov and others like him should know that Russia is the only country in the world that can completely destroy the United States in half an hour In half an hour.!!! And this is not bravado. But they, despite their missile defense, global attacks, and sedentary wars, are not able to completely destroy Russia as a civilization. China is capable of military means and Russia is not. Only decompose and subjugate from the inside, which is what they do.
                        During this time (since 2008), I only got drunk in the trash two times, as they say (for me this is a fatal dose for a typical European). The first time he left the army, more with grief than joy, the second time being in Reutov on a business trip, they noted the resignation of Serdyukov with indescribable joy. Then, when the next day he looked at the site, he added with joy that I was not the only one, there are many of us, and therefore Russia has a future, no matter what pro-American singers say.
                      2. Cavas
                        +7
                        18 January 2013 14: 48
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        When MP Musabekov

                        Ascetic, for such a post and you can put your head!
                        Strongly said! good




                      3. Yarbay
                        -4
                        18 January 2013 14: 53
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        When MP Musabekov seriously says that the United States is ten times stronger than Russia, to put it mildly, it puzzles the competence of the politician

                        I know Musabekov as a fairly competent political scientist !!
                        He, just like I, may not know what you know !!
                        I also see from my bell tower and having those materials that are available to me the overwhelming US superiority over Russia!
                        But you probably also know that the leadership of my country has a more complete picture of who is who in the world!
                        In my quotation you cite, I want to add again that I’m sure that Azerbaijan is not looking for friendship with the West, namely, it is building mutually beneficial relations on the basis of its interests!
                        We have to do it!
                        Russia having chosen Armenia as its ally, has left us no choice!
                        Is it really incomprehensible! ??
                      4. OSTAP BENDER
                        +10
                        18 January 2013 14: 56
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        Then, when the next day he looked at the site, he added with joy that I was not the only one, there are many of us, and therefore Russia has a future, no matter what pro-American singers say.

                        Russia has a future, but the West does not! Here and rage !!!!
                      5. 416sd
                        -2
                        18 January 2013 15: 15
                        With the same success, the United States can destroy Russia in half an hour ...
                        In general, there is an optimal option - let both unite and destroy the whole world in 15 minutes ...
                        And the wolves died and no sheep ...
                      6. +10
                        18 January 2013 15: 49
                        Quote: 416sd
                        With the same success, the United States can destroy Russia in half an hour ...


                        They cannot. Even plans for a "disarming" strike look problematic and unwarranted. And the states can be destroyed even with the funds that Russia now has. It's no secret now, the entire West Coast, along with California, will simply disappear under water, and there is no need for a lot of charges on the East. In Russia, from the point of view of geophysics, there are no such critical points, and the size of the territory is incomparable. In the 70s, with a huge number of warheads, we could completely destroy not only each other but the whole world. Now START III the number of deployed 1550 nuclear warheads for both sides. The number of deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles, deployed ballistic missiles of submarines, and deployed strategic bombers for Russia and the USA will not exceed 700 units..
                        Any war with us will lead to the exchange of nuclear weapons and this is disastrous for them. For us, even according to their calculations, no more than 90 million should perish. people
                      7. 416sd
                        -5
                        18 January 2013 16: 05
                        If you want to believe in it, believe it; I don’t see arguing with you, it’s bravado.
                        If there are 20 million Russians left and you think that it will be normal, then conclude why I will not speak on this subject with you ...
                      8. +14
                        18 January 2013 16: 28
                        Quote: 416sd
                        If you want to believe in it, believe it; I don’t see arguing with you, it’s bravado.


                        This is not bravado but facts. Another fact you won't find in the American-controlled pressThe total abandoned weight of our carriers is 2.5 times that of the United States Of course they won’t scream about it at every corner. And you can believe it because you don’t know a damn thing like your deputies. Or specially hang noodles on my ears, I was shocked by some interviews, God. how everything is up and running upside down!
                        Quote: 416sd
                        If there are 20 million Russians left and you think that it will be normal, then conclude why I will not speak on this subject with you ...


                        This is not what I think and we are not, because we are not going to attack anyone, It will be normal for them and not for us. In the meantime, they know that we can not only inflict unacceptable damage on them, but also destroy it, that will never happen, and your politicians will still be able to carry all kinds of anti-Russian nonsense for American and Jewish money under the protection of the Russian nuclear umbrella.
                      9. Yarbay
                        -6
                        18 January 2013 16: 38
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        it will never be destroyed, and your politicians will still be able to carry all kinds of anti-Russian nonsense


                        Dear Stanislav, Tell me, on the basis of what, should these deputies carry * pro-Russian nonsense ** ?? For what merits * of Russian politicians * which were sold to thieves and bandits !?
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        for American and Jewish money under the protection of the Russian nuclear umbrella
                        we have enough money !!
                        No need to turn everything upside down!
                        As a result of a mediocre policy, Russia has lost its position in the Caucasus!
                        Here even the Russian population understands this !!
                        And leave your umbrella for yourself !!
                      10. +8
                        18 January 2013 18: 32
                        In Transcaucasia, Alibek, Russia has everything exactly, there is Armenia, love in captivity and after the pogrom of Mishiko, two vassals were created in the most important place, i.e. ridge control, the rest is type of love between peoples and states - communist propaganda that has died in the Bose. They are loved by Russians or hated, Abkhazians, Ossetians and Armenians, but our troops and bases are not what they will drive, but they will cling to their boots and not let them go.
                      11. Yarbay
                        -3
                        18 January 2013 20: 33
                        Quote: hrych
                        In Transcaucasia, Alibek, Russia has everything exactly, there is Armenia, love

                        Dear Hrych!
                        Armenia, and so on, can’t get anywhere from Russia, and is it possible that the situation of Armenia, its geographical position, resources can be compared with other countries ??
                        Quote: hrych
                        They love Russians or hate Abkhazians, Ossetians and Armenians, but our troops and bases are not what they will drive, but they will cling to their boots and not let go

                        I agree, but in your opinion is it worth what was and will be lost ??
                      12. +10
                        18 January 2013 21: 09
                        Armenia, like Israel, has no resources, but its strategic position is good, shelling its neighbors. You see, Dear, Russia of recent years, led by GDP, is a programmer who puts his interests at the forefront and achieves them. There is also hydrocarbon competition, where there is production and transportation, where is Azerbaijan, but don’t turn on the other side of the barricades. There’s still, if you don’t tell, there is the Christian world in which the Armenians and, accordingly, the Islamic world are with you, and the protection of co-religionists also has a place to be, well, the Armenian diaspora is second only to experience zhito the Jews. Armenians do not cause negativeness among the Russian layman, but Azerbaijanis in Russia have not earned authority from EBN times. And the ruler is obliged to orientate himself on the layman otherwise. In general, the prospects are not very good and it seems to me that so far it will be so, otherwise it could be even worse.
                      13. +1
                        23 January 2013 03: 57
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I agree, but in your opinion is it worth what was and will be lost ??

                        HERE I CATEGORALLY AGAINST YOUR WORDS ...! ! !

                        ... AS A FRAGILE PEACE ...
                      14. +7
                        18 January 2013 22: 19
                        Yarbay,
                        ,
                        I do not intentionally affect politics. I’m only talking about the military aspect and OUR weapons. When the same politician speaks with a mysterious appearance to a journalist about S-300 complexes that are unknown whether or not they will work at the right time, then this pearl should only be shrugged. Okay, the girl understands them like a bald man in a hairbrush, but there is no need to be an expert to ask a question, why the hell did you buy them then? Buy Patriots, they will work as they should at the right time, Just like Israeli UAVs fly there where Israel needs it and not you, Ours already embarrassed with them (this business was later hushed up unfortunately). Now the Russian leadership, fortunately or not, has no other question of ileology in foreign policy, as was the case with the friendship of peoples in the USSR, Putin pursues a pragmatic policy towards all countries. Everything else is sideways. In Transcaucasia, as elsewhere, America is trying to solve through its satellites, but they cannot fully control the situation while they are opposed to them in the region of Russia and Iran. It is a fact. Whoever wins this struggle will be the main one in the Caucasus.
                      15. Yarbay
                        0
                        19 January 2013 00: 05
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        I do not intentionally affect politics. I’m only talking about the military aspect and OUR weapons.

                        Dear Stanislav, one thing is not clear to me, you are well aware of many things !!
                        Do you believe that we have politicians who decide something, except for the President !?
                        In your opinion, someone's opinion as a politician is more important than the opinion of the President !! ??
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        when the same politician speaks with a mysterious appearance to the journalist about the S-300 complexes that are unknown whether or not they will work at the right time, then this pearl should only be shrugged.

                        If you are about Ilgar Mammadov, then I am not surprised at his pearls !!
                        A man considers himself a great oppositionist and is dissatisfied with everything! What can I do with him ?? I can’t forbid talking !! As for the S-300, the opinion of a specialist is important to me and we have such a specialist Colonel General Tofig Yakub oglu Agaguseynov, who has been a military adviser for many years President! By the way, I sincerely congratulate the distinguished general on today's award, he was awarded the order * Flag of Azerbaijan * by decree of the President today !!!
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        Whoever wins this struggle will be the main one in the Caucasus.

                        I agree!
                      16. Yarbay
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 01: 25
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        I do not intentionally affect politics. I’m only talking about the military aspect and OUR weapons. When the same politician speaks with a mysterious appearance to a journalist about S-300 complexes that are unknown whether or not they will work at the right time, then this pearl should only be shrugged. Okay, the girl understands them like a bald man in a hairbrush, but there is no need to be an expert to ask a question, why the hell did you buy them then? Buy Patriots, they will work as they should at the right time, Just like Israeli UAVs fly there where Israel needs it and not you, Ours already embarrassed with them (this business was later hushed up unfortunately). Now the Russian leadership, fortunately or not, has no other question of ileology in foreign policy, as was the case with the friendship of peoples in the USSR, Putin pursues a pragmatic policy towards all countries. Everything else is sideways. In Transcaucasia, as elsewhere, America is trying to solve through its satellites, but they cannot fully control the situation while they are opposed to them in the region of Russia and Iran. It is a fact. Whoever wins this struggle will be the main one in the Caucasus.
                        Now finally watched the movie !!
                        Honestly, what Mamedov says about the conflict and Karabakh is true!
                        We should be on the side with whom to conquer our territory!
                        Our main question is this, and not what Russia or the USA or Israel need !!
                        Musabekov also agrees with the statements, with the exception of the passage about the S-300!
                        I assure you that many people think so, but we don’t know what decision the management will make !!
                        As far as I know about UAVs, it’s not difficult to remove bookmarks for a specialist!
                        I somehow do not see the pragmatism of Putin’s policy!
                      17. +7
                        18 January 2013 18: 16
                        Arithmetic says 140-90 = 50, including Moscow Azerbaijanis.
                      18. Yarbay
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 20: 33
                        Quote: hrych

                        Arithmetic says 140-90 = 50, including Moscow Azerbaijanis.

                        I do not understand!
                        ??
                      19. +4
                        18 January 2013 20: 49
                        There, colleague Asket led the calculations of the Amer analysts on the strike on Russia and 90 million destroyed, and 416sd, in the replica, operated on 20 million Russians.
                      20. Yarbay
                        +2
                        18 January 2013 21: 53
                        Quote: hrych
                        There, colleague Asket led the calculations of the Amer analysts on the strike on Russia and 90 million destroyed, and 416sd, in the replica, operated on 20 million Russians.

                        Clearly, the strategists already wrote this !!)))
                      21. +4
                        18 January 2013 17: 21
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        Russia is the only country in the world that can destroy the United States in half an hour in half an hour. !!! And this is not bravado. But they, despite their missile defense, global attacks, and sedentary wars, are not able to completely destroy Russia as a civilization. China is capable of military means and Russia is not.


                        in fact, this comment should be read to the author of the article, maybe he will not be drawn to writing articles about the Azerbaijani threat to Russia. bully
                      22. Seriously
                        -1
                        18 January 2013 22: 32
                        The military will be Russia in 2012 was $ 70 billion from the United States 620!
                      23. 0
                        23 January 2013 03: 49
                        Quote: Ascetic
                        During this time (since 2008), I only got drunk in the trash two times, as they say (for me this is a fatal dose for a typical European). The first time he left the army, more with grief than joy, the second time being in Reutov on a business trip, they noted the resignation of Serdyukov with indescribable joy. Then, when the next day he looked at the site, he added with joy that I was not the only one, there are many of us, and therefore Russia has a future, no matter what pro-American singers say.

                        Very DECENT RESPONSE ...! ! !
                    3. +9
                      18 January 2013 13: 17
                      I fully admit that Azerbaijan is able to return Karabakh by force, but what will it cost. The Armenians will not calm down, a sabotage war will begin, including in third countries. Pipelines will stop pumping oil and gas. One can imagine what will happen to the economy of Azerbaijan.
                      I think there will be no war. Your elite is too well organized and so. And militaristic sentiments are being whipped up to unite the nation in front of an external enemy, and themselves shamelessly feed on corruption. The status quo is beneficial to Azerbaijan and foreign policy. He is a victim of the occupation before the international community, and in case of war, ugly shots of corpses of children and women will inevitably appear on TV, and Western public opinion may change.
                      1. +7
                        18 January 2013 18: 36
                        There is a Collective Security Treaty Organization, where Armenia enters and a strike on them will automatically lead to a strike on Azerbaijan by the Russian army.
                      2. 416sd
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 19: 53
                        Nagorno-Karabakh is recognized by Russia as the territory of Azerbaijan.
                        A military operation not affecting the territory of Armenia does not fall under the Collective Security Treaty Organization.
                      3. +5
                        18 January 2013 20: 27
                        Everything is true, but without a blow to Armenia, this task cannot be solved.
                      4. Misantrop
                        +3
                        18 January 2013 20: 31
                        Quote: hrych
                        without a blow to Armenia, this task cannot be solved

                        There is one problem. A brother once asked an Armenian in the Moscow region why they didn’t go home, but sat in Moscow and the region. And I got the answer: "If we ALL gather there, there will be a crush, like in the subway at rush hour." So when you hit Armenia, you can get a bunch of problems in the most unexpected places. winked
                      5. Yarbay
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 20: 38
                        Quote: hrych
                        That's right, but without a blow to Armenia, this task cannot be solved.

                        I think the enemy will strive for this !!
                        Since, by and large, in Karabakh more than half of conscripts and contractors from Armenia, and in the event of a war from the territory of Armenia, try to counter-attack!
                        Will there be attempts to strike at the territory of Armenia, or it’s easier to hit on their own - it’s not difficult to organize and with large losses among civilians!
                        We need to think it over!
                      6. +4
                        18 January 2013 21: 27
                        Easily. And in general, soon the Great Redistribution, where a new state will clearly appear - Great Kurdistan, and if Ilham will not be in a hurry, then Great Azerbaijan, it is clear that neither Turkey nor Iran will be in that form, because redistribution will be there. Karabakh, although insulting, but a trifle and because of it to climb into the hell is not timely.
                      7. +1
                        19 January 2013 02: 17
                        Quote: hrych
                        It’s easy. And in general, soon the Great Redistribution, where a new state will clearly appear


                        The whole world will learn Russian, and in the United States, a cocokola bank will cost 10 kopecks laughing
                      8. +4
                        19 January 2013 02: 39
                        It has already been said that the Arabian oil has dried up and therefore all the fuss. Akromya of Russia has huge oil reserves only Venezuela (infected with cancer Hugo, they are preparing a coup) and Iran, to put it mildly, are not friends of the West or the Asian tigers. The same deficit puts the Chinese people on the brink of a war for the islands in the East and South China seas, where they found hydrocarbons. If things go on like this, then Coca-Cola in America will cost 1000 bucks. Russia has "Poplar" and "Borei", it cannot be approached, but chaos in Venezuela and the war in the B. do not die of hunger, including the United States.
                      9. 0
                        23 January 2013 04: 11
                        Quote: hrych
                        Russia will finally become the ruler of the world, and the rest will only stick out a little carasin so as not to die of hunger, including the United States.

                        USA will automatically turn OLD VASUKI .... laughing
                      10. 416sd
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 20: 47
                        I'm not inclined to give military strategy lessons online ... but maybe
                3. +4
                  18 January 2013 13: 13
                  An interesting quote from the film - "... Azerbaijan is moving further and further from their Soviet roots and aspires to Europe - to the west ... "
                  Looking up to what to do in Europe?
            3. Salumid
              0
              19 January 2013 01: 50
              "Over the past years, Baku has not made ANY step friendly to Russia ..."
              And how can one be generally friendly to Russia if Russia has provoked a conflict, supports the occupation. If the 366th motorized rifle division destroyed the whole city of Khojaly with its population, committed a crime on January 20, 1990, And today it supplies Armenia with weapons to the enemy of Azerbaijan, who occupied (of course with the support of Russia) 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan. Friendly relations can be and should be, but only on condition that aid to the occupiers stops and does not interfere in the conflict. No "peacekeeping efforts" by Russia are needed and this will already be a step towards a peaceful solution to the conflict.
              And about North Azerbaijan, this is not a rumor from Azerbaijan. These are rumors developed by Armenia (see Russia) with the goal of further worsening relations with Iran.
              1. 320sd
                0
                19 January 2013 02: 47
                And here is the chick of "Aliyev's nest"))
                Russia provoked a conflict, supports the occupation. If the 366th motorized rifle division destroyed the whole city of Khojaly with a population, committed the crime on January 20, 1990.

                366 motorized rifle regiment, not division
                Khojaly is a village, not a city. As of February 1992, about 1000 people lived in the village of Khojaly. During the inspection of this settlement, immediately after the suppression of firing points in it by the units of the NKR Defense Army in February 1992, members of the "Memorial" society found several corpses of civilians. By the nature of the injuries they received, it was clear that they had come under artillery shelling before the offensive. The civilian population partially surrendered to the Armenians (about 700 people). The rest left the city along the corridor provided by the Armenians in the direction of Askeran. The corpses of these people were found several kilometers from the city of Aghdam, which was occupied by the Azerbaijani troops. The investigation of this crime was terminated by order of Heydar Aliyev in 1994.

                And in January 1990, what crime did Russia commit? ))) Then on the map was only One Great Soviet Union wink
          3. 320sd
            +3
            18 January 2013 18: 42
            Here it is, radar station in Kutkashen, darling winked
            The planned signing of a new agreement on military-technical cooperation with Russia will increase the level of relations between Yerevan and Moscow in this area from government to state. Armenian Minister of Defense Seyran Ohanyan stated this at a press conference in Yerevan on January 18, a REGNUM correspondent reports.

            The other day, the Russian president approved the initiative of the Russian government to begin negotiations with Armenia over the signing of an agreement on military-technical cooperation.

            Experts assessed the initiative of the Russian side as another step aimed at strengthening the military-strategic partnership between Russia and Armenia, as well as a sign that Yerevan can count on the supply of new types of Russian weapons.

            "An intergovernmental agreement on military-technical cooperation has been in effect between Armenia and Russia since 2003. Our bilateral relations, which are at a very high level, have made it possible to take a step forward in this area and move from the level of an intergovernmental agreement to the level of concluding an interstate agreement on military-technical cooperation. cooperation, "the minister noted, adding that this will also have a positive effect on the development of the military-industrial complex of Armenia as a whole.

            The new agreement also makes it possible to conclude interdepartmental agreements between the specialized structures of the two states and to establish joint military-technical organizations, the head of the Armenian defense department said. "Thus, military-technical cooperation between our countries is moving to a new level, which will have a positive effect on cooperation with the CSTO countries in this area," the minister said. He added that at the same time Armenia is deepening relations in this area with Europe. “With partners from Europe, we are modernizing some types of weapons of the Soviet period,” he briefly stressed.



            Details: http://regnum.ru/news/fd-abroad/1614691.html#ixzz2ILHDBMXf
            Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM news agency.
            1. 416sd
              -1
              18 January 2013 19: 55
              This is Gabala ... And not Kutkashen ....
              Although on "Regnumyan" they may consider differently
              1. 320sd
                0
                18 January 2013 19: 58
                They don’t even know that it’s Kutkashen, not Gabala, at the Regnum, unlike me)))))))))
                So, you can’t refute the information - disgrace the source. Heydar, in our ancient world you can hardly find anything new
                1. 416sd
                  0
                  19 January 2013 14: 37
                  Oh, who would doubt the ANCIENTY of your world ...
                  1. 320sd
                    -1
                    19 January 2013 14: 46
                    Are you and I different? laughing
        2. Salumid
          0
          19 January 2013 01: 29
          Azerbaijan does NOT have any territorial claims against Armenia. Armenia occupied 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan - the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region of Azerbaijan (see maps) and another 7 adjacent regions. Evicted ALL Azerbaijanis from there, while about 40 (forty thousand) people were killed on ethnic grounds. Peaceful people, the indigenous people of Karabakh, women, children, the elderly. There are still thousands of missing people. In the Fizuli region on the field, the armed Armenians took completely naked captive Azerbaijani women to the field to work, who asked the Azerbaijani soldiers, who were at positions at a distance of 000-1200 meters, to shoot them with signs. This was not even done by the German fascists. Claims of Azerbaijan - withdrawal of Armenian armed formations from the territory of Azerbaijan
          1. 320sd
            +1
            19 January 2013 03: 00
            Armenia occupied 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan


            OCCUPIED TERRITORIES OF NAGORNO-KARABAKH

            Speaking about the occupied territories of Nagorno-Karabakh, the NKR authorities are talking about the territories of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic occupied by Azerbaijan, which, as already mentioned, do not cover the entire Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh in its geographical, historical and ethnic unity, but only the territory of the former Nagorno-Karabakh and Shaumyan region (see above), which at the beginning of open hostilities fully extended the power of the NKR leadership.
            As a result of hostilities between Azerbaijan and the NKR, Azerbaijani troops occupied in 1992 and currently occupy about 750 square meters. km of the NKR territory, which is 15 percent of its area. We are talking about all of Shaumyansky (600 sq. Km), as well as parts of the Mardakert and Martuni regions.

            AZERBAIJAN

            According to propaganda statements by the Azerbaijani authorities and official representatives, currently 20 percent of the territory of Azerbaijan is allegedly occupied, and there are allegedly more than 1 million refugees and displaced persons in the country. It is also alleged that such a situation arose as a result of “the aggression of Armenia against Azerbaijan and the capture by Armenia of both Nagorno-Karabakh and the regions adjacent to it”.
            It should be noted that none of the UN Security Council resolutions adopted in connection with the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict contains any expressions about the “aggression” of Armenia and, as a result, demands for the withdrawal of its troops from the territory of Azerbaijan and Nagorno-Karabakh (see resolutions 822, 853, 874, 884 / all of 1993 / UN Security Council).

            It is known that the NK Defense Army during the hostilities completely occupied 5 regions of the Autonomous Republic (Lachinsky, Kelbajar, Kubatlinsky, Zangelansky and Dzhebrailsky). Aghdam and Fizuli districts are partially occupied, generally by about 30 percent.
            According to Azerbaijani data, the area and population of these areas are:

            Kelbajar - 1936 sq. km, 50,6 thousand people;

            Lachin - 1835 sq. Km. km, 59,9 thousand people;

            Kubatly - 802 sq. km, 30,3 thousand people;

            Jabrail - 1050 sq. Km. km, 51,6 thousand people;

            Zangelan - 707 sq. M. km, 33,9 thousand people;

            Agdam - 1094 sq. M. km, 158 thousand people;

            Fizuli - 1386 sq. M. km, 100 thousand people

            The total area of ​​the first 5 districts is 6330 square meters. km The total area of ​​Agdam and Fizuli - 2480 square meters. km, but of them under the control of the NK Defense Army is 35% of the territory of Agdam and 25% of the Fizuli regions, i.e. 383 and 347 sq. km Thus, the figures given in the Azerbaijani data on the area of ​​occupied territories are 8780 square meters. km - is also a falsification.
            The total area of ​​the territory of Azerbaijan under the control of the NKR is not 8780 square meters. km, and 7059 square meters. km, which is 8 percent from the territory of the former Azerbaijan SSR, that is, two and a half times less than 20%, which are constantly reiterated by the leaders and representatives of Azerbaijan, deliberately misleading the international community and world public opinion.
            Recall that Azerbaijan, for its part, occupies 15 percent of the NKR territory.
            1. 416sd
              +2
              19 January 2013 13: 58
              An unrecognized state cannot be occupied by anyone even by Armenia itself ...
              1. 320sd
                -1
                19 January 2013 14: 09
                Those. if only Uruguay recognizes the NKR, how will everything immediately become true? :)
                1. 416sd
                  +1
                  19 January 2013 14: 37
                  Without Vanuatu, it’s unlikely ... wink
        3. hermes
          +1
          April 27 2013 15: 20
          )))))) hhhahahahhaha
        4. hayabusa777
          0
          7 May 2013 11: 14
          May Armenia help Kim Kardashian Amin!
      2. Skiff
        +7
        18 January 2013 11: 05
        In open sources, the population of Azerbaijan in 2012 It is about 9.300.000 people. At present, there are about 2.500.000 people in Russia, Azerbaijan’s GDP is $ 35 lard, the transfer of money from Russia by Azerbaijanis is about $ 1 lard !!!

        Now let’s imagine for a moment what will happen if the Azerbaijanis are deported back to their homeland? Now, what kind of war is involved, I don’t understand.
        1. 416sd
          0
          18 January 2013 11: 11
          Nothing will happen. Because:

          1. Familiarize yourself with the economy of Azerbaijan. This is not Tajikistan, not Armenia and not Moldova. Lard is smaller, lard is larger - there was spent as much as one Eurovision on how much this lard did not dream of ...
          2. 2.5 million Azerbaijanis are not included in these 9-odd. These are the ones that left in the early 90's and bred there. And half of them have Russian passports by the way.
          1. Skiff
            +6
            18 January 2013 12: 55
            Well, you will not deny that ordinary people live on this lard, relatives of those you said who bred here and provide them there, and I think it’s several million more, and believe that for a country with a population of 9, at least 500.000 will be humanitarian catastrophe. If Turkey already howled from several hundred thousand refugees, what can we say, we will sincerely, it is very sad.
            1. Yarbay
              0
              18 January 2013 13: 20
              Quote: Skiff
              500.000 will be a humanitarian disaster

              Yes it will not be !!
              There were a million refugees, without a roof over their head, they managed, this is not a problem !!
              Send, I personally for it in all seriousness!
              1. Skiff
                +2
                18 January 2013 14: 36
                Nobody expels anyone, I'm just saying that there are an order of magnitude more minuses than the pluses from the war with Russia as it is written here.
                1. Yarbay
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 14: 55
                  Quote: Skiff
                  Nobody expels anyone, I'm just saying that there are an order of magnitude more minuses than the pluses from the war with Russia as it is written here.

                  it is not even discussed!
                  Totally agree!
          2. +5
            18 January 2013 16: 07
            God grant that there is no war. And as for passports .. Look how it was with the Japanese citizens of the United States during the Second World War. They were interned in camps simply for the fact that they had a Japanese in the second generation. When there is a war on human rights and democracy, a "device" is put in place and this is correct from the point of view of the state. security.
        2. +1
          18 January 2013 11: 22
          Quote: Skiff
          Azerbaijan GDP 35 lard $,


          Azerbaijan's GDP exceeds 100 billion you have a mistake
          1. 0
            19 January 2013 11: 02
            Quote: ayyildiz
            Azerbaijan's GDP exceeds 100 billion you have a mistake

            Azerbaijan's GDP in accordance with IMF data for 2011: 52bn. 166 million dollars.
        3. avt
          0
          18 January 2013 12: 50
          [quote = Skiff] And now let's imagine for a moment what will happen if the Azerbaijanis are deported back to their homeland? ____________ In the event of a serious military conflict, especially with Iran, we are tormented by deportation!
        4. Avenger711
          +4
          18 January 2013 13: 20
          Why deport? To the camps immediately, as always done.
      3. +6
        18 January 2013 11: 58
        Quote: older
        In vain you are so ... Azerbaijan is a strong and wealthy state that enjoys the support of the West and the USA ... Not to mention the plans of Baku ...



        A. Samsonov’s article does not reflect the full picture. Not a word about Armenia. In order to make a clear picture, the article also needed to reflect the armament of Armenia.
        In my opinion, Armenia is also arming itself! IMHO
        1. +1
          18 January 2013 13: 47
          War is certainly bad. Azeris can also understand what the Armenians did in the 90s, they do not do honor to them. But just do it all speculation assumptions time will tell. The topic can be developed and developed.
          1. Artmark
            +2
            18 January 2013 14: 42
            I welcome, dear coin, two sides ... but it’s not interesting why and how it happened ?! Peace to all!
      4. +4
        18 January 2013 15: 20
        Quote: older
        In vain you are so ... Azerbaijan is a strong and wealthy state that enjoys the support of the West and the USA ... Not to mention the plans of Baku ...
        For example, I absolutely agree with "Vladimir"
        Pontus dohrena ... Georgia also enjoyed the support of the United States and ..... in general, what is the dispute ???? why escalate and invent enemies for yourself, then even start to be afraid of them, it’s not serious !!! Fortunately, our Armed Forces also do not stand still, let not the same rate of rearmament as in the USSR, but still we must not forget how huge were our the armed forces in the 90s, what’s the armed forces there, the whole country was in such a huge F, I don’t say that everything is perfect now, but not F, but just not a big Popa from which, I hope in the near future we, I mean Russians, get out !!!!!
      5. Region65
        0
        19 January 2013 13: 52
        and Gryzia in 2008 did not enjoy the support of the United States and NATO? :)))))) and what? they even drove their fleet to the Black Sea :) though first they waited until the 58th army returned to their positions :))))
      6. 0
        25 January 2013 00: 10
        Quote: older
        Azerbaijan is a strong and rich state, which enjoys the support of the West and the USA ... Not to mention the plans of Baku ...

        And what kind of US support did Georgia enjoy ...
        Frankly speaking, it sounds funny in general: "Azerbaijan is going to fight with Russia."
        I still hope that Aliyev has enough prudence.
    2. +16
      18 January 2013 08: 42
      If Russia will adhere to the current course of updating the army and navy, as well as stopping squandering the state’s assets, then the post-Soviet space will sit on the priest exactly. If we suddenly give slack, they will bite.
      Therefore, knowing the bestial and vile insides of most of the former neighbors in the USSR, one must always keep on hand a weighty demotivator from the activity of the latter.
    3. +9
      18 January 2013 08: 57
      Quote: Vladimirets
      , a lot of ambition and show-offs, then ran far away.

      Turkey is behind Aizerbaidzhan, and it will surely stick it in. But even this fact does not guarantee the return of Karabakh. The region may burst into flames, but the result of this will be ruins. Russia cannot but stick behind Armenia, for the reason that the CSTO will collapse without coming to Armenia's aid. will not stand aside, but she is a member of NATO. In short, who rushed for whom. For one piece of land. A "good" battle can be unleashed, but there is still no chance to return. hi
      1. +6
        18 January 2013 09: 08
        Turkey stands behind Aizerbaidjan, and she will surely come up.

        I don’t think Turkey is NATO, and NATO countries do not need a luminous lunar landscape on their territory.
        1. borisst64
          +3
          18 January 2013 10: 20
          Quote: PSih2097
          luminous lunar landscape on its territory.

          The fact of the matter is that the territory is alien. And the principle of "divide and conquer" is still relevant today. No one needs a strong Azerbaijan or a strong Russia, so to play them off, to push them to a conflict, they will be happy.
          1. +2
            18 January 2013 16: 09
            Oh yes .. Brazenly Saxons adored the whole story - to pit.
            1. 0
              18 January 2013 16: 15
              And in the Caucasus, the Armenians love this business, they all want to pit each other, and they themselves want to get out of the water dry,
      2. +3
        18 January 2013 09: 20
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Turkey will not stand aside, but it is a NATO member. In short, who rushed for whom. For one piece of land. A "good" battle can be unleashed

        That is why then, in the event of an armed conflict between Azerbaijan and Russia, Turkey, in spite of its walkers, will not be alarmed (or rather, it will not be given).
        1. +7
          18 January 2013 09: 25
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Turkey, in spite of its walkers, and will not be alarmed (or rather, they will not give it).

          Who will not give the USA? If you look at their policies, you will see that the more shooting, the better for the United States. The whole world is in chaos, the only way to maintain leadership now and leave the dollar world currency.
          1. +2
            18 January 2013 09: 42
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Who will not give the USA? If you look at their policies, you will see that the more shooting, the better for the United States. The whole world is in chaos, the only way to maintain leadership now and leave the dollar world currency.

            USA and will not give. Politics by politics, but in the event of a clash with Turkey, we get a practically guaranteed nuclear war with all the consequences, and this still holds especially hot heads even in the states. On charred land, the dollar will no longer be needed.
            1. +4
              18 January 2013 10: 59
              Quote: Vladimirets
              USA and will not give. Politics by politics, but in the event of a clash with Turkey, we get a practically guaranteed nuclear war with all the consequences, and this still holds especially hot heads even in the states

              In this case, Turkey can be sacrificed and Russia can be blamed for everything. It has already happened, they will not untie the Nuclear War for the sake of Turkey. The United States has other interests.
              1. Cavas
                +2
                18 January 2013 15: 29
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                In this case, Turkey can be sacrificed and Russia can be blamed for everything. It has already happened, they will not untie the Nuclear War for the sake of Turkey. The United States has other interests.

                Sanya, what is Turkey, what are you talking about?
                She is afraid to enter Syria, and there can be no question of Russia.
                The swagger of Transcaucasian leaders will not bring them to good!
                1. -6
                  18 January 2013 15: 51
                  Quote: Cavas
                  She is afraid to enter Syria, and there can be no talk of Russia


                  And with whom will Turkey fight in Syria? With the Syrians or with Russia and Iran?
                  Oddly, Assad dreams that Turkey will enter Syria and face Russia and Iran face-on-face, so that he himself can get out of the water dry
                  1. Cavas
                    +4
                    18 January 2013 16: 13
                    Quote: ayyildiz
                    Oddly, Assad dreams of Turkey entering Syria

                    Do you all know Assad’s dreams?
                    Share it?
                    1. -2
                      18 January 2013 16: 20
                      Isn’t it so that we will encounter Russia and Iran in Syria there?
                      1. Cavas
                        +7
                        18 January 2013 16: 34
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        Isn’t it so that we will encounter Russia and Iran in Syria there?

                        Are you Turks asking me this? laughing
                        Have you not yet encountered or understood this? wink
                      2. -1
                        18 January 2013 23: 35
                        Quote: Cavas
                        Have you not yet encountered or understood this?

                        Was Russia also afraid to drive from one side to the other side of Georgia or didn’t want to face a global war in the Caucasus? wink
                      3. Cavas
                        +3
                        18 January 2013 23: 45
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        Was Russia also afraid to drive from one side to the other side of Georgia or didn’t want to face a global war in the Caucasus?

                        ????????
                        While the Georgians took erotic (changed the word) cars in Ossetia, the neighboring republic of Abkhazia, noted the successful defense against attack, launched its own campaign to collect lulz in the Kodori Valley. One Abkhazian soldier was killed, two others were injured, but they managed to send two Georgians trained by NATO to the other world. The following dialogue took place:
                        Russians: “You attack without a massive support of artillery, we have!”
                        Abkhazians: “Yes, Harosh, these are Georgians!”
                        Russians: “Oh well? Well, how many victims do you have? ”
                        Abkhazians: “two wounded, one killed. Can we continue? ”
                        Russians: “Damn it, pranksters ... Actually, we need to check the volley fire system. Take your people away
                        After a massive Russian artillery and air strike in the Kodori Valley, 2 units of the Georgian military contingent were disintegrated, and only 500 people who did not have civilian clothes with them to hide survived. Meanwhile, the dialogue continued.
                        Russians: “Okay, have fun!”
                        Abkhazians: “Yes, you bastards have already had fun, we have no nichrome left ...”
                      4. +1
                        19 January 2013 00: 06
                        I just asked why they didn’t completely drive from one side to the other side of Georgia and didn’t remove Sako?
                      5. +5
                        19 January 2013 00: 27
                        The Russian leadership voiced the goal of the military mission 2008 ---- FORCING TO PEACE. Is the world on the border now? They don’t shoot. Thank you all, everyone is FREE !!!
              2. +2
                19 January 2013 02: 37
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                In this case, Turkey can be sacrificed and Russia can be blamed for everything. It has already happened, they will not untie the Nuclear War for the sake of Turkey. The United States has other interests.


                I read an interview with one NATO official so he said in plain text (free retelling): "Do you seriously think that NATO countries will go to a nuclear war with Russia because of one of the Baltic countries (I don't remember exactly, in my opinion it was Estonia)?" The Anglo-Saxons have no allies, they have a sphere of interests, in cases of real danger they will not go to protect the Turks, the Balts and others, they will merge them without hesitation.
          2. +2
            18 January 2013 10: 30
            I completely agree - the Americans spit on their allies. On the contrary, they will pit us, weaken them and begin to dictate their own again.
      3. drewlanin
        +4
        18 January 2013 21: 26
        I had a chance to visit the Karabakh conflict zone in 1992, and who was fighting as they saw with their own eyes, and that at that time Turkey was helping the Azeibardan side, but despite all the help, the result was a completely different division of the Armenian forces, it was better that there is such a fact at the end of 1993 Turkey presented an ultimatum to Armenia, few people know about it, but it was written there immediately to withdraw troops 60 km from the territory of Azeibardzhan immediately a delegation from Moscow flew in to solve this problem, a delegation of generals from Moscow personally had the opportunity to protect the WTO such a historical fact !!!
        1. kNow
          +1
          21 January 2013 08: 44
          Quote: drewlanin
          I had a chance to visit the Karabakh conflict zone in 1992 and who saw how they saw it with their own eyes

          Quote: drewlanin
          Armenian forces are fighting better

          Quote: drewlanin
          immediately a delegation from Moscow flew to solve this problem, a delegation of generals from Moscow personally had the opportunity to protect the WTO such a historical fact!
      4. Region65
        +1
        21 January 2013 04: 58
        Turkey will rush against Russia for Azerbaijan? I doubt :) when ours were slaughtering Georgia in 2008 and the NATO fleet, along with the US troughs, tried to get into the Black Sea - Turkey didn’t let them go for ten days, under various pretexts :)))))) until our troops returned theirs, and besides, no one has canceled the genetic memory - the Turks have many times received a pill from Russia, therefore, just like France, it is unlikely that it will ever open its mouth to Russia. There is still an economy tied up - it is not profitable for the Turks to swear with us.
    4. +3
      18 January 2013 09: 26
      Unfortunately, you have the ambition, ambition and show-off now. Azeris will climb into Armenia only if Russia is occupied in other directions. And the situation will not be easy. Anglo-Saxons do not want to fight themselves. They do it with the hands of others. If ours would surrender to Syria, we would receive a huge ulcer of radical Islam. And all this riffraff would climb to us. Plus, the Czechs in their favorite manner of a knife in the back shove. In the meantime, we are all busy with them, NATO would have uncovered Iran. And during this, Azeris will hit Armenia. (Turkey in mind) But what will NATO do then the question is open. It depends on how much strength we have left. And do not forget about Japan and China. Therefore, tactical nuclear weapons will be used guaranteed. And then what? The situation is reminiscent of the 40th year .. we again begin to rearm and again we DO NOT SUCCESS.
      1. +3
        18 January 2013 09: 45
        Quote: Mitek
        Unfortunately, you have the ambition, ambition and show-off now.

        Dear, it is necessary to add "in my opinion", otherwise it is ugly. You are now describing who will fight for what and which countries will fight afterwards, that is, you are doing strategic analytics. I meant that Azrbaydjan, by itself, is not an absolutely enemy to us and will be quickly crushed.
        1. +1
          18 January 2013 14: 52
          I apologize). You are absolutely right about Azerbaijan. But it simply cannot be viewed in isolation from the current international situation. It's like looking at BELAZ and saying, I'm not afraid of the nut on its wheel. I will crush her and throw the devils where. I am cool.
          Sorry again if offended.
    5. +3
      18 January 2013 10: 26
      In my opinion, the situation in 888 did not sober up the haters, and the conclusions on the organization of the troops are only in languages, and the author specifically says that the talk time is over.
      1. in reserve
        +3
        18 January 2013 12: 07
        According to Aliyev, historical justice lies in the fact that "Nagorno-Karabakh is our historical, primordial land," and the present Republic of Armenia has arisen on the historical lands of Azerbaijan. The President of Azerbaijan calls the decision to transfer Erivani to Armenia as the capital in 1918 a great mistake and crime, since the Irevan Khanate is an Azerbaijani historical land. The head of Azerbaijan did not stop there and stated that the invented Armenian state was created on the historical lands of Azerbaijan, and they are currently trying to create a second invented Armenian state (Nagorno-Karabakh). “The time will come when Azerbaijan will restore its territorial integrity by any means


        Recently, you hear more and more such statements from the heads of the former Soviet republics, first Nazarbayev now Aliyev, I would say "FROM THE DIRT TO THE PRINCE" is this not real Nazism.

        So, the former adviser to Heydar Aliyev Vafa Guluzade said that Russia is the number one enemy of Azerbaijan. In his opinion, “the collapse of Russia will help Azerbaijan restore its territorial integrity” without a war with Armenia, since the resistance of Yerevan in this case will be meaningless.


        What can Russia answer?

    6. +4
      18 January 2013 12: 17
      Aliyev is not haunted by the Saakashvili Lavra, about which very few people heard in the world until 08.08.08.
      1. 416sd
        +3
        18 January 2013 13: 51
        Laurels of Saakashvia? Are these the ones he chewed live? Saakashvili comes to see Aliyev as a provincial governor to the head of state. We do not need his laurels.
        1. +7
          18 January 2013 14: 11
          Quote416sd ..... Laurels of Saakashvia? Are these the ones he chewed live? Saakashvili comes to see Aliyev as a provincial governor to the head of state. We do not need his laurels

          And what you need? Why so many weapons? Pump oil (while there is). sell
          fruit calmly. Then no one will touch you. Why do you need games in "big politics"? There are serious uncles, they can inadvertently
          to hurt. Or does Aliyev think that he is more successful than Saakashvili and has more ties?
          1. Yarbay
            -4
            18 January 2013 14: 26
            Quote: askort154
            And what you need? Why so many weapons?


            Do you even know what this is all about ??
            1. +4
              18 January 2013 15: 21
              Quote ..Yarbay ...... And you generally know what it is all about ??

              I know! And I see Aliyev’s perspective on the Georgian rake. They also
              were leaders in militarization, longed to annex Abkhazia and
              South Ossetia, they hoped for a "great friend". Azerbaijan blindly follows
              the same way, and even hopes for the collapse of Russia. Aliyev digs his pit
              to the people If this is not clear to someone, then alas!
              1. -2
                18 January 2013 15: 35
                But Armenia does not dig a hole for itself, placing Syrian Armenians in Karabakh and giving them citizenship, why is Russia silent on this issue?
              2. Yarbay
                -4
                18 January 2013 15: 43
                Quote: askort154
                I know!


                You do not know !!
                The territories of Azerbaijan are occupied by Armenia and therefore we are arming ourselves!
                And what time will tell!
                1. 0
                  18 January 2013 15: 45
                  No state can be independent if it does not have its own strong army!
                  1. 320sd
                    +2
                    18 January 2013 18: 44
                    The Azerbaijani newspaper Zerkalo returned to the topic of rape of soldiers in the armed forces of Azerbaijan. The publication recalls that it previously wrote about the rape of an Azerbaijani soldier by the commander of one of the military units located in the Terter region.

                    According to a newspaper source, the unit commander was removed from his post. However, the military prosecutor of the Terter region, Mehdi Huseynzadeh, denied this information, saying that "these are unfounded rumors that spread throughout the district." According to him, there was no rape. However, Huseynzadeh admitted that the Military Prosecutor's Office of the Terter region did not conduct an investigation into these rumors.

                    Teymur Abdullayev, an employee of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, also said that information about the rape of a soldier by the unit commander is untrue. “And the commander of the unit in question is not at all removed from his post. He just went on vacation, ”he said.

                    Meanwhile, after the publication of the article, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan issued a statement in which it was noted that information about the rape of a soldier in the Terter region was untrue.

                    The head of the Azerbaijani public association “Retired and Reserve Officers” Yashar Jafarli and the chairman of the Nagorno-Karabakh Committee of the Azerbaijan National Committee of the Helsinki Civil Assembly, Kerim Karimli, conducted their own investigation. According to Jafarli, as a result, witnesses were established who confirmed the fact of rape. “They are all military personnel,” he said.

                    According to the chairman of the association, these witnesses are afraid to testify. “After all, the Ministry of Defense has already stated that the information about the rape of a soldier is not true. So they are afraid to go against official opinion, ”Y. Jafarli said.
                    1. 416sd
                      -2
                      18 January 2013 20: 00
                      January 17, 2013 | 10:54
                      A soldier of military service has died in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Armenia. As reported by Armenian News - NEWS.am in the press service of the Ministry of Defense, a soldier of the N-th unit Armenak Mkrtchyan died at about 05:30 am on January 17 at the Central Clinical Hospital.

                      In fact, a criminal case has been opened in the Investigative Service of the Moscow Region under Part 2 of Article 376 of the Criminal Code (careless attitude to the service, which caused serious consequences by negligence). An investigation is underway. According to preliminary data, the cause of death of a serviceman was acute myocardial infarction, pulmonary thromboembolism, acute cardiopulmonary failure.
                      http://news.am/rus/news/136187.html

                      And below are shots from hazing from the Armed Forces of Armenia:

                      1. 320sd
                        0
                        18 January 2013 20: 06
                        On January 7, the uncle of another soldier killed in the current year, Hasanov Firatdin Alfi oglu, killed 15 days before the end of his military service in the Azerbaijani armed forces, contacted the editorial office of the Azerbaijani newspaper Azadlig. As the uncle of the murdered soldier stated: “Only the corpses of our soldiers are sent home. My nephew did not serve in the frontline zone, and was not killed by enemies. He was killed in a military unit in Astara. " The family of the murdered Asker conducted his own investigation into the death of F. Gasanov, about the results of which his uncle told the newspaper. “I was informed that my nephew was stabbed in the area of ​​the heart. At the same time, two soldiers held him, and the third hit him with a knife. The officer who came to the wake promised that he would find out who was to blame for the death of the soldier. Soon we learned that this officer was, unfortunately, killed. What is going on in our army ?! ” - He is bewildered to the newspaper staff.

                        Meanwhile, regular killings in the armed forces of Azerbaijan have several reasons, among which it would be worth highlighting the incitement of general hatred in the society of Azerbaijan, interethnic intolerance and hatred caused by the chauvinistic policy of Baku, as well as the neglect of Azerbaijani politicians towards the life of citizens of the republic. Thus, the deputy of the Milli Majlis of Azerbaijan, a member of the Committee on Legal Policy and State Building of the Parliament of Azerbaijan, the chairman of the Ana Veten party, Fazail Agamaly, said in an interview with the Azerbaijani service of Radio Liberty: “I regret, in any case, the death of a soldier is not a big event for Azerbaijani statehood. The death of a soldier can occur at the front, and from natural disasters, and from illness. It is unfortunate that it happens from physical pressure and violence. However, it’s wrong to expose all this as a big problem. ” Thus, the deputy of Agamala tried to justify the punitive measures of Azerbaijan against the participants of the protest rally in Baku held on January 12. The rally participants demanded an end to the killings of Azerbaijani soldiers and bullying.
                      2. 416sd
                        -3
                        18 January 2013 20: 09
                        And such downs are drafted into the army in the Armed Forces of Armenia

                      3. aray
                        0
                        20 January 2013 15: 56
                        General Staff of Azerbaijan:
                        "The Azerbaijani army is capable of liberating its lands by military means at any time. Just 10 days will be enough!"

                        So, what kind of "strength" is the Transcaucasian Turks capable of defeating the Artsakh wolfhounds in 10 days? What kind of army is this "victorious"?
                        Let's get it together.

                        On August 19 of this year, on the Voskanapat website, an article was published "Azerbaijani army for sale" with an interview with Alexander Ashurov. Here is a quote from the interview:

                        "- And how does the rank and file of the Azerbaijani army relate to the idea of ​​the sovereignty of their country?

                        - The Azerbaijani people think in a completely different way than their "freedom-loving" elites. On March 17, 1991, more than 90 percent of the population of the Azerbaijan SSR voted in a referendum for the integrity of the Soviet Union. What is the Azerbaijani army today? There is a huge gap between the conscript soldiers and the officers. The soldiers are entirely from the common people, and the officers, especially the top command staff, are from wealthy circles. Such an army will not fight effectively. Why should a simple Azerbaijani soldier give his life for some Nagorno-Karabakh, to which this soldier has nothing to do? He understands that, having received Karabakh back, the next Heydar Bey or Ilham Bey will rob the Karabakh people and pocket millions and billions in their pocket. Why would a simple Azerbaijani soldier fight for these beys?

                        Azerbaijanis, that is, the Azeri Turks, are not a warlike people at all. Moreover, they are not genetically adapted for any kind of war. This was clearly shown during the Great Patriotic War. German intelligence found out in advance where the divisions assembled in Azerbaijan or Georgia were located at the front, and the forward forces of the Wehrmacht were striking exactly there. An example of this is the Kerch-Feodosia operation of the Red Army, which took place from December 1941 to May 1942. This operation of the Red Army started well enough, but ended in disaster for us. 130 thousand people died, 170 thousand were captured by the Germans. Direct roads to the Caucasus and Sevastopol were opened for the Wehrmacht. Why did a well-planned operation fail? This is because Manstein identified on the right flank of the Soviet troops the location of the divisions intended to cover the landing of the Soviet landing. These divisions just consisted of Azerbaijanis and Georgians. Manstein decided to launch a massive blow on these divisions. One strike of Ju-87 dive bombers and the appearance of German tanks on the distant horizon was enough for these Georgian-Azerbaijani Red Army divisions to scatter like cockroaches. The present Azerbaijani army will fight against the Armenians in the same way. "
                        http://voskanapat.do.am/news/azerbajdzhanskaja_armija..
                        [media = http: //]
                      4. aray
                        -2
                        20 January 2013 16: 06


                        Here are the realities of your army)
                      5. 416sd
                        +2
                        20 January 2013 23: 10
                        Will we compete in the number of video categories +100500?
                        Before you, let it be known to you, similar videos regarding the state of the Armed Forces of Armenia have already been posted ... And it was said that with hazing both you and we have the same, I listed the strengths and weaknesses of both armies above.
                      6. 416sd
                        +1
                        20 January 2013 23: 06
                        An example of this is the Kerch-Feodosia operation of the Red Army, which took place from December 1941 to May 1942. This operation of the Red Army began quite well, but ended in disaster for us. 130 thousand people died, 170 thousand were captured by the Germans. For the Wehrmacht opened direct roads to the Caucasus and Sevastopol.

                        Neither the site of Woscanapat. Neither Leva Melik, like Shakhnazaryan’s father there, nor his relatives and the whole family, nor the relatives and the entire family of those who write at Voskanapat, are the authorities on the issue of Azerbaijanis participating in the Great Patriotic War. I would answer you. But I have a creed - I never mix the question of the history of the Second World War with modern politics. In June 1942, my grandfather died in Kerch. He served in the 396th Azerbaijan Rifle Division, which completely died. A hundred and fifty survivors survived who carried the banner of the division led by Commissioner Haver Veliyev and junior political instructor Abumuslum Bakhshiyev. My grandfather went out with them and died later in Adzhimushka. his grave is still there. I am sure that next to him lie both Russians and Armenians and Georgians and many others. But the mind and the soul of such as LMSH do not understand this.

                        I wrote in a user 320 sd that the theme of the Second World War is sacred to me. Blurry again - you’ll be blacklisted and our discussion will end.
                      7. 416sd
                        +1
                        21 January 2013 01: 27
                        P.S. As for the causes of the disaster in Crimea in May 1942, there are a number of objective and subjective reasons that topic experts are better versed in, rather than amateurs who use the memory of their grandfathers for toilet-Pascudian purposes. On my blog www.yoldash.net there are many examples of heroic behavior of Azerbaijanis during the Second World War. moreover, I still do not touch upon generally recognized facts (GSS, generals) that are available on my friend’s website www.savash-az.com

                        Go keep counting who has how many medals and who has more GSS. For me, WWII is a theme and a memory. For the site, Voskanapat is a remedy.
                      8. aray
                        -2
                        20 January 2013 15: 59
                        Soldiers selling organs in military units of Nakhchivan? Shock! Shock!

                        Voskanapat.info publishes in Russian material from the Azerbaijani site Teref.info.

                        There is growing protest in society against the growth of crimes in the army, however, given that the Ministry of Defense either does not respond to all this or has taken a position of denial, we see our civic duty in re-publishing all of this. All these dead soldiers are our children and our common human duty to protect them.

                        The main field of activity of the military prosecutor of Nakhichevan, Yashar Hasanov, is a close relative of Lieutenant General Kyaram Mustafayev and Vasif Talibov and considered to be their number one person.

                        I Namazov Rahim Tofig oglu was born in 1978 in Sheki in a family of intellectuals. In July 2005, having received higher education, he was called up for military service. The then Sheki military commissar asked me for 2000 money to put me in one of the military units of the Baku region during distribution, but I refused to give him money, or rather, a "bribe" and he told me without shame: "then we will send you to gedər gəlməzə ”(he who does not return). I asked where is it? He said Nakhichevan. True, by the time of the call I was married and already had a 3-year-old son, but still agreed. At the end of August 2005, a personal driver of the corps commander took me from military unit 215 to the corps.

                        In the building, in a gazebo, surrounded on four sides by bodyguards, were two people. One of them was Kyaram, the other was military prosecutor Yashar Hasanov. I was asked about the ability to drive professionally, then on a large area of ​​the building I drove for a long time the white Niva belonging to the military prosecutor, and I probably approved it. After 20 minutes, the prosecutor, saying goodbye to the corps commander, came up, sat next to me in the white Niva and told me to go to the prosecutor's office. In truth, I didn’t know the road exactly, and at his prompting we reached the military prosecutor’s office, where they gave me a military uniform.

                        Further on the link
                        http://voskanapat.do.am/news/v_v_ch_jakh_nakhichevana_prodajut_organy_soldat_sho
                        k_shok / 2012-08-31-2461
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                        This year, (2012) losses in the Azerbaijani army is 97 people. The absolute record.


                        Are you going to fight with this army?
                      9. aray
                        -2
                        20 January 2013 16: 05


                        Exhumation of an Azerbaijani soldier disassembled into organs in the Moscow Region.
                2. +1
                  18 January 2013 16: 27
                  Quote ... Yarbay ... And what time will tell!

                  Someone learns from the mistakes of others, and someone on their own! Forward!
    7. 0
      18 January 2013 14: 55
      You can’t write like that, The situation here is different, It will be difficult and very difficult for us, This is a foreign country and a completely different circumstance, We are not so strong as to have a war, Yes, and the situation is changing quickly, I do not want our guys to die because of mistakes that made the power structures of these countries, We will simply be confronted with the fact, This is very bad, And most importantly the death of people,
    8. 320sd
      +1
      18 January 2013 18: 40
      “The number one enemy of Azerbaijan is Russia. Russia has nuclear weapons. Any UN resolution that is contrary to Russia's interests is blocked, because otherwise it will not be possible to avoid a third world and nuclear war. The West does not need a nuclear war, therefore, it calls on Azerbaijan to be restrained, ”said Wafa Guluzade, a former state adviser on foreign policy issues of Azerbaijan.

      According to the Azerbaijani news agency Vesti.az, Guluzade also noted that "the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan will help restore only the collapse of Russia."

      At the same time, V. Guluzade said that Moscow has leverage over Armenia and it will be able to use them. Speaking about Russia's pressure on Azerbaijan, a former Azerbaijani official said that Baku had already “exhausted the limit of compromises”, and it had nowhere to retreat.

      Note that earlier V. Guluzade has repeatedly stated that Russia will fall apart and that it will be beneficial for Azerbaijan. So, just a few days ago, on January 12, 2013, Guluzade told the Salamnews agency that there are only two ways to resolve the Karabakh conflict: “First, Russia must create an opportunity to resolve this conflict. Second, Russia must be so weak that anarchy reigned there. The main task is to weaken Russia. ”
      1. 416sd
        0
        18 January 2013 20: 02
        Guluzade is not an authority but insane ...
        Should I give links to what Igor Muradyan writes on LRAGİR.AM about Russians?
        1. 320sd
          +1
          18 January 2013 20: 09
          Muradyan is a tough nationalist. Guluzade from Soviet times, adviser to the Aliyevs. The difference, as they say, is on the face.
          1. 416sd
            0
            18 January 2013 20: 25
            Since 2000, Guluzade has not been an adviser to the Aliyevs ...
          2. Yarbay
            0
            18 January 2013 21: 58
            Quote: 320sd
            Advisor to the Aliyevs.

            Aliyev never needed advisers !!
            Many would envy his knowledge, patience and will!
    9. yak69
      -1
      18 January 2013 20: 43
      The author writes that we must get rid of our "fifth column". And who is our leader in this column? And the main one in our "fifth column" is Medvedev !! And who appointed him prime minister?
      So I don’t know what to think now and what to do with all this parsley ........... request
      1. yak69
        0
        19 January 2013 01: 40
        Representatives of the "fifth column" are doing their liberal deed here too - they give me minuses! Zh..p..lizam Putin and Medvedev must have only good languages, because you do not need brains - you are ready for anything if only these traitors and stealers were in power.
        Continue to lick, gentlemen who support the "fifth column" and its leaders!
    10. Lucky
      0
      18 January 2013 21: 28
      They want to share their oil.
    11. Predskazamus
      0
      20 June 2013 13: 46
      Well, we fight with Russia))) this is already from the realm of fantasy)) provocation and that's it. We have more than friendly relations with Russia
  2. +16
    18 January 2013 08: 28
    A wonderful article ... For some reason, we are hushing up this problem ... Even here, because of tolerance, we don’t really argue with Azerbaijani friends ... However, I believe that Baku has already turned into a huge problem in the Caucasus ... Karabakh’s issues are not the most important. .Much more important is the issue of Turkmen oil and Kazakh gas ... Baku seeks to oust Russia from the Caspian basin ... On the whole, hushing and looking through our fingers, we got a strong adversary at our borders who doesn’t really want to be friends with us ...
  3. PistonizaToR
    +5
    18 January 2013 08: 54
    To the author, plus. While I read and analyzed history, the south is on the same level as the west in terms of the number of problems and war, so you should have resources that do not even allow you to think about some vypip towards Russia and its interests from the southern sex minorities.
  4. Drappier
    +12
    18 January 2013 09: 03
    Yarbay will come and explain, with "bloodthirsty thugs" Armenians. Don't go to grandma.
    1. +3
      18 January 2013 09: 20
      Drappier,
      That's for sure, although his answers to articles and attacks on Azerbaijan are interesting to read.
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      18 January 2013 09: 42
      Quote: Drapper

      Yarbay will come and explain, with "bloodthirsty thugs" Armenians. Don't go to grandma.


      that's for sure!!)))
      But I, unlike opponents, say facts!
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 12: 26
        Yarbay,
        Dear Alibek, I wanted to add about the facts, but they distracted me ...
        1. Yarbay
          -1
          18 January 2013 12: 40
          Quote: PSih2097
          Dear Alibek, I wanted to add about the facts, but they distracted me ...

          Thank you for rating!!
          I will try and continue!))
      2. +5
        18 January 2013 16: 11
        Believe me. The Armenian side can also pile on facts. And no one will understand who is right and who is to blame. This is very close in history. Alas..
        1. Yarbay
          -1
          18 January 2013 16: 15
          Quote: Mairos

          Believe me. The Armenian side can also pile on facts. And no one will understand who is right and who is to blame. This is very close in history. Alas

          that’s what they usually say who has no idea about the conflict and its origins!
          No offense!
          1. 320sd
            +3
            18 January 2013 19: 02
            So tell us here about the conflict and the origins. About how the Autonomous Region of Nagorno-Karabakh has become the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous District. And what kind of people live in this strange autonomous region? For example, Khanty and Manses live in Khanty-Mansiysk, Perm and Komi in the Permian Komi. Who lives in the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Okrug? Karabakh people? And who lived in the Nakhchivan Soviet Autonomous Republic? Nakhchivans? Tell me better, how on the lands of the Russian Empire, which moved away from Iran to Russia, on the historical land of Lezgins, Talysh, Avars, Udins, the state of the Transcaucasian Turks arose? How did the Karapapakhs, Oguzes, and other "Azerbaijanis"))) give birth to the state of Azerbaijan on Turkish bayonets in 1918?
            “... The term Azerbaijan was chosen because when the Republic of Azerbaijan was established, it was assumed that the Persian and this Azerbaijan would be one ... On this basis, the name Azerbaijan was adopted, but, of course, now that the word Azerbaijan is used in two senses - as Persian Azerbaijan and a special republic, one has to get confused and ask what Azerbaijan is meant, Persian Azerbaijan or this Azerbaijan ... "

            Vasily Bartold, academician, orientalist
          2. yak69
            +1
            18 January 2013 22: 43
            All conflicts are from hatred and unwillingness to negotiate. And everyone can prove that "this is the land of my ancestors." And everyone will be right and wrong at the same time. People! this earth was created by God! We are all HIS children. And how painful it is for the Parent to look at the fact that these unreasonable children are only doing what they kill each other under any pretext and for any reason. How much more blood must be shed and brought to this land of suffering to understand that ALL ISSUES SHOULD BE SOLVED ONLY BY THE WORLD.
            Humanity is a single organism. People are the living cells of this organism. And it is quite obvious that this organism is seriously ill. When some cells devour other cells it's cancer! And the world today is like a self-feeding monster.
            We must stop this madness.
  5. Assistant professor
    +2
    18 January 2013 09: 04
    In general, Russia as a whole should pursue a more active foreign policy in the post-Soviet space. It is necessary to conduct information expansion, strengthen the military presence, and engage intelligence. And recently, which cannot but rejoice, our country has been taking serious steps in this direction. Here integration will play a key role within the Eurasian Union.
    1. 320sd
      +1
      18 January 2013 19: 04
      It is impossible to understand the very nature of the long-standing and smoldering Karabakh problem throughout the Soviet years without making a short “excursion” during the Sovietization of Transcaucasia and the formation of the USSR.
      Named exclusively by geographical, rather than “ethnic” or “ethno-geographical” names of the autonomous republics and regions in the Soviet Union, only six were formed at different times (we immediately make a reservation that the Gorno-Altai Autonomous Okrug in the Altai Territory does not count, because it was created as the ethnic autonomy of the people - Altai).
      These were, firstly, the diverse Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (in later years, an opinion was artificially imposed that it was supposedly autonomy of the Crimean Tatars, which is wrong) and the Dagestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (from the Turkish-Persian "country of mountains") with dozens of large and small nations and ethnic groups. Then in Central Asia - Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Okrug in Tajikistan, combining hard-to-reach valleys and tracts of mountain Ismaili Tajiks, created as a regional ethno-confessional autonomy. Finally, three autonomies of this kind were created in Transcaucasia: the Adzhar Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic with the predominance of Georgian Muslims within the Georgian SSR; The Nakhchivan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region as part of the Azerbaijan SSR.
      It is no coincidence that it was in the Azerbaijan SSR that the largest number of “camouflaged” autonomies was included. Come understand, who lives in Nakhichevan - Nakhichevan? and in Nagorno-Karabakh - the Karabakh people? The substitution of ethnic concepts for geographical ones was by no means a whim, but was explained quite simply: the need to cast a shadow on the fact that the Bolshevik Moscow transferred the original Armenian territories to newly formed Soviet Azerbaijan - "the light of the proletarian revolution in the Muslim East."
      Indeed, the fact of the transfer of these territories from Armenia to Azerbaijan was framed very peculiarly. In the case of Nakhichevan, an interstate agreement between Bolshevik Soviet Russia and the Kemalist (on behalf of the leader of the post-Ottoman Turkey Mustafa Kemal, later nicknamed Ataturk, that is, the “father of the Turks”) Turkey, concluded without any participation of occupied Armenia - the Moscow Treaty of March 16, 1921. Incidentally, autonomy for Georgian Muslims was also created under pressure from Ankara.
      In the case of Nagorno-Karabakh, the transfer was framed by a voluntaristic and legally worthless decision of the Russian party body - the plenum of the Caucasian Bureau of the Central Committee of the Russian Communist Party of Bolsheviks - RCP (b).
      In the first case, it was the most natural partition of the occupied state by the aggressor countries - Bolshevik Russia and Kemalist Turkey, dressed in revolutionary toga. The division, in essence and even in its form, is similar to the division of Poland between the USSR and Nazi Germany in 1939. At the same time, the territory of the former Armenian Republic was approximately equally divided between the allies.
      The Kars region, which was part of the Russian Empire in 1878-1917, as well as the Surmalinsky district of the Erivan province together with the Bolshoi Ararat mountain, which were transferred to Russia from Persia under the Turkmanchay Treaty of 1828, left Turkey. Soviet Russia "took over" the remains of the so-called Eastern Armenia in the form of most of the Erivan province and parts of the Elizavetpol and Tiflis provinces, which were part of independent Armenia in 1918-1920.
      At the same time, at the insistence of Turkey and with the consent of Soviet Russia, the Nakhichevan district and a number of other territories of the former Erivan province with a total area of ​​5,4 thousand km2 were torn away from Sovietized Armenia and transferred as an autonomous territory “under the protection” of Soviet Azerbaijan, “provided that Azerbaijan will not cede this protectorate to any third state. ”
      1. 320sd
        0
        18 January 2013 19: 06
        If the territory of Nakhichevan was occupied by the Turkish army together with the Red Army, then the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh was occupied by parts of the XI Red Army, allegedly temporarily and officially considered by the Bolshevik authorities as a disputed territory, whose fate should be decided later, based on negotiations and the will of the population.
        Moreover, after the Sovietization of the Armenian Republic, Soviet Azerbaijan declared the rejection of any claims to Karabakh, Zangezur and Nakhichevan. However, a year after the Red Army occupied the territory, the fate of Nagorno-Karabakh was decided by the party authority of Bolshevik Russia. Moreover, these decisions, taken over a month, were extremely contradictory.
        So, on June 3, 1921, the plenary session of the Caucasian Bureau of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.) Decided "To indicate in the declaration of the Armenian government on the ownership of Nagorno-Karabakh by Armenia" What was done by the government on the last of June 3, 12: the Decree of the Council of People's Commissars of Armenia proclaimed that "from now on, Nagorno-Karabakh is an integral part of the Socialist Soviet Republic of Armenia" 1921.
        In the annual report of the NKID (People’s Commissariat for Foreign Affairs - the Bolshevik Ministry of Foreign Affairs was called that) of the RSFSR to the IX Congress of Soviets, the section "Caucasus" said: "In July (1921 — author's note) an agreement was reached with Azerbaijan (as the text - author's comment) about Nagorno-Karabakh, which is being included in Soviet Armenia ”5.
        It should be noted that in the summer of 1921 a question was also being decided about another region of Armenia - Zangezur, which the Turkic-Tatar nationalists also longed to see as part of newly created Azerbaijan, whether it be a pro-Turkish buffer formation, or part of Bolshevik Russia. The remains of the Armenian army gathered in Zangezur, which, not without success, resisted the superior forces of the XI Red Army. By that time, the entire South Caucasus had already been sovietized, and the Bolsheviks were trying to postpone the final determination of the fate of Armenian Karabakh so as not to add fuel to the fire of the anti-Bolshevik uprising, which had already flared up without a trace.
        The leaders of the Azerbaijan SSR meanwhile telegraphed to Moscow that if Nagorno-Karabakh became part of Armenia, this would result in a loss of faith in the Bolsheviks among Azerbaijani Muslims. And, as a result of this, the possible restoration of power by the former leaders of the republic - the Turkish proteges of the Musavatists (from the name of the ruling Musavat party in the ADR).
        The chairman of the Council of People’s Commissars of the Azerbaijan SSR Nariman Narimanov, who declared "granting Nagorno-Karabakh the right of free self-determination," at the same time demagogically declared that "our comrades Armenians exclusively think about the territory, but not about the well-being of the poorest population of Armenians and Muslims and the strengthening of the revolution." 6 At the same time, the Politburo and the Organizing Bureau of the Central Committee of the AzKP decided that Nagorno-Karabakh should become part of the Azerbaijan SSR "in view of the unconditional economic gravity of Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan, in which sense the issue should be resolved" 7.
        They again gathered the plenum of the Bureau of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.) In Tiflis. Within two days - on July 4 and 5, 1921 - the plenum, playfully, first decided “to include Nagorno-Karabakh in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Armenia, to hold a plebiscite only in Nagorno-Karabakh” 8, and the next day adopted the opposite decision: “Leave Nagorno-Karabakh within AzSSR, giving it wide regional autonomy with an administrative center in the city of Shusha ”9.
        Thus, neither negotiations nor the will of the population of the region took place when resolving the issue of Nagorno-Karabakh. As well as other controversial territorial issues between Soviet Armenia and Soviet Azerbaijan.
        1. 416sd
          -4
          18 January 2013 19: 42
          If you really do an excursion, let's go deeper ... and there is no need to copy the Armenian stories and myths from the texts of the corrupt Stanislav Tarasov ...

          Are you saying that the fact of "the transfer of Karabakh and Nakhichevan to Azerbaijan" was confirmed by the Bolsheviks right? The question is - do you know with whom Russia signed an agreement in the early 19th century (1805) when the Karabakh Khanate was annexed? It was the Kurekchay peace treaty, signed by Russia with the Azerbaijani khan of the Karabakh khanate Ibrahim-Khalil. This was his signature. Another question - why did the Russians recognize Ibrahim-Khalil as the legitimate ruler and signed an annexation agreement with him? Probably because it was he who was the legitimate ruler, and then there was no smell of Armenians ...

          And after 1828, Armenians resettled from Persia began to settle here. (although a certain number of them were before). But again, the Karabakh khanate was Azerbaijani, and the original signature in the contract in the Russian archives is Azerbaijani. So the story is always deeper than you think.

          The same applies to the Nakhchivan khanate, the legitimate ruler of which was Kelbali Khan Nakhichevan, great-grandfather of Huseyn Khan Nakhichevan, commander of the horse guard of the guard Nikolai the Second, who died in 1918 at the hands of the Bolsheviks and was not buried anywhere. By the way, 70% of the population of Nakhichevan at the time of its accession to Russia in 1828 was Azerbaijani Turks and Kurds.
          1. 320sd
            0
            18 January 2013 19: 46
            Ibrahim Khalil was anyone: Oguz, Karapapakh, black or white sheep, but he was definitely not Azerbaijanis. Then there was one Azerbaijan - the Persian province.
            1. 320sd
              +3
              18 January 2013 19: 55
              And Persian Azerbaijan lay south of Araks. And you, dear, when you talk about the Armenians of Karabakh, you apparently specially forget that a significant part of the Armenians were forcibly transported to Persia under Shah Abass. Which then, after 1828, just returned to their native land.
            2. 416sd
              -1
              18 January 2013 20: 13
              Come on? And Armenia in 1828, the UN Security Council was sitting yes?
              We are a young nation, in the beginning of the 19th century there was no such word as an Azerbaijani. But this does not say that the ancestors of modern Azerbaijanis did not live there.
              1. 320sd
                +1
                18 January 2013 20: 19
                And, by the way, my friend, tell me, as in 36 Heroes of the Soviet Union, presented to us by Azerbaijan, among Talysh, Tat, Lezgin and Avars, how did you manage to find at least one Oghuz? ))))
                And another question, why Azerbaijan has not yet published the list of those killed in the First Artsakh War? The Armenians published exactly. Is it because there are many mass graves along the current border of NKR and Azerbaijan? Do you want a card?
                And one moment. How do you feel about such a being as "Ibad Huseynov"? Is he a Turk, are you of the same tribe? And why is the nonsense of a cowardly butcher the mainstream of Azerbaijani propaganda?
                1. 416sd
                  0
                  18 January 2013 20: 32
                  Oguz - 43 heroes of the USSR (42 + 1 from Georgia) ... I don’t argue that there were much more GSS Armenians ... There are reasons for that. I sleep in databases with the rank of captain from the Azerbaijan SSR, every third Armenian, there are more than Azerbaijanis, there are two main reasons 1) illiteracy for that period 2) few party members ... and all these things played a role ... Read the memoirs of Russian veterans , in general, the question of awards in the Second World War is the most ungrateful. The most recent deed and sacrilege is to count those who have more rewards.

                  Regarding Talysh, etc. - The Azerbaijani nation and its formation process is different from that of the Armenians. Talysh is just as Azerbaijani as Oguz ... At least whose cow would moo - Armenia is a mono-ethnic country.

                  On the graves - the war is not over yet. It will end - we will count all.

                  By the way, I will never (never!) Question how the Armenians fought in the Second World War, for the sake of today's politics. Because for me this is a sacred topic, I ask you not to touch it ... I am the first and probably the only person who said "Hands off Baghramyan" when someone began to write fantasies about him and that he almost ordered Aslanov.

                  I warn you, if you are not an expert in the subject of the Second World War, it is better not to meddle, I will crush you. This is a holy topic for me and let's agree not to touch it. For me, all the Armenians who died in 1941-1945 are the same grandfathers as my grandfather died there. If you still want to chat, go to my blog. promise not to sterilize posts and communicate on any topics within the framework of WWII questions that are of interest to you. but not in the context of modernity. Again - I do not like to connect Karabakh and the Second World War and do not do this in my blog. This is my credo, even if some of my countrymen do not like this.

                  As for Ibad ... Hmm ... A serious question ... Ibad killed him or not - a vague and vague question. I think this is the problem of the clumsiness of our propaganda. I know for sure that everything is muddy there. They killed Melkonyan - a hero for you, a robber for us. In any case, I always respected the enemy, if a person graduated from Berkeley, then he is worthy of respect. He exterminated my people.
                  1. 320sd
                    +1
                    18 January 2013 20: 38
                    Thank you for this answer. For me, this crown is also holy. And no matter how I feel about Buniyatov, no matter how the rabid lies of your officialdom infuriate me, the Great Patriotic War is our common ground. And therefore, glory to the Heroes !!!!
                    1. 416sd
                      +1
                      18 January 2013 20: 54
                      1. doing +1
                      2. I invite you to my blog again ... there I have an article on the battery of the Armenian GSS Oganov, there were four of us in the battery, foreman, castle, riding and intelligence ... we will communicate ... without Karabakh, if that suits you. For me.
                      3. officialdom and propaganda are the same in both countries ... probably Artsrun Hovhannisyan and Eldar Sabiroglu are the same person ... What do you have with us ...

                      Okay, I'm tired today, I've been sitting here since 11 in the morning ... write to [email protected]
                  2. Yarbay
                    +1
                    18 January 2013 22: 13
                    Quote: 416sd
                    As for Ibad ... Hmm ... A serious question ... Ibad killed him or not - a vague and vague question. I think this is the problem of the clumsiness of our propaganda. I know for sure that everything is muddy there. They killed Melkonyan - a hero for you, a robber for us. In any case, I always respected the enemy, if a person graduated from Berkeley, then he is worthy of respect. He exterminated my people

                    Here I do not agree with you!
                    As for Ibad, I know very well what happened then and have no doubt at all!
                    As for the University of Berkeley, this is not an indicator for me!
                    Among the Nazi fascists there were also very educated people who quoted philosophers!
                    As for the Great Patriotic War, I agree, except for the issue of Baghramyan, since I carefully studied the issue, the person spent the whole war at the headquarters, never commanded more than one unit since 1925 (and then only a year) and became a hero and marshal!
                    1. 416sd
                      +1
                      18 January 2013 23: 29
                      Alibek, at the meeting we’ll talk here about Ibad I won’t touch upon ... I will introduce you to someone from somewhere they will tell you something ... The story of the destruction of Melkonyan is foggy. By the way, that does not detract from the merits of Ibad. I think it’s enough for me personally that Melkonyan did not fall from the cliff and did not die from a stroke - he was killed at the hands of an Azerbaijani, and Ibad killed him, Akhmed or Mammad doesn’t matter. he’s just too big a bird and every structure at the moment ascribes his victory to himself. I think the fact that Melkonyan is killed and does not live in this world is a collective merit of our fighters. Very similar to the option of the death of Wittmann in France.

                      As for Melkonyan - show me from our graduated Berkeley and abandoned distant America and France to come to fight for his people? There were none.

                      For the rest, I agree, Berkeley, nor Berkeley, even Yeil, for us he was a fascist.

                      According to Baghramyan, as a commander, he was neither a genius nor a coward. He did not sit at headquarters, at least until 1943.

                      There were cases when he came out bravely from the encirclement with a gun in his hands, as if from near Kharkov together with Kirponos. Kirponos died, Bagramyan left. According to numerous accounts, he came out of the encirclement bravely, without panic. Another question is that both he and Tymoshenko and Khrushchev were directly responsible for the death of the South-Western Front near Kharkov.

                      And there were cases when he ruined entire buildings and was bravadochny sending a bottle of water from the Baltic to Stalin, not having time to gain a foothold on the coast, from where he was then thrown away. When the bottle reached Stalin, our units were thrown from the sea, Stalin returned the bottle to Baghramyan. But to say that Bagrymyan ordered Aslanov is bullshit. Mortally wounded Aslanov was urgently evacuated in the personal plane of the commander of the 1st Baltic Front. This commander was Baghramyan. It is a great honor and concern for a simple brigade commander, although Major General Aslanov, not every general is evacuated on a front-line airplane. And in his memoirs Baghramyan about Aslanov speaks very warmly, I would say fraternally and sadly ...
                      1. Yarbay
                        -1
                        19 January 2013 01: 55
                        Quote: 416sd
                        Alibek, at the meeting we’ll talk here about Ibad I won’t touch upon ... I will introduce you to someone from somewhere they will tell you something ...

                        With pleasure!!
                        The fact is that approximately I know the sources of this conversation !!
                        There, if you compare the numbers and places where this happened, then you will become more clear!
                        Quote: 416sd
                        I think it’s enough for me personally that Melkonyan did not fall from the cliff and did not die from a stroke - but was killed at the hands of an Azerbaijani

                        It is unconditional!
                        Quote: 416sd
                        According to Baghramyan, as a commander, he was neither a genius nor a coward. He did not sit at headquarters, at least until 1943.

                        You do not seem to catch my thought !!
                        He being the chief of staff in some part and could be surrounded!
                        I mean, during the whole war he didn’t command more than one combat or army unit, if not, I ask you to show me which tank unit he commanded !! ?? Baghramyan was the chief of staff at various levels during the war, and then abruptly became commander of the front, that is, he had no experience in commanding a regiment, division, army !!
                      2. 416sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 11: 32
                        He was surrounded as a member of the military council of the Southwestern Front when the front died near Kharkov. in September 1941.
              2. 320sd
                0
                18 January 2013 20: 33
                Our misfortune in the Ummah
                Author: Uzeyir Hajibeyov

                Young man: I am amazed that in the same “school” from under the hands of the same teacher, the Russians and the Armenians become, as you rightly noted, real people, while our Muslims, who completed this the same "ishkolu" remain with their old habits and ignoramuses. Is this really due to the fact that our blood is spoiled? What's the matter?

                Uzeyir Hajibeyov: Neither blood is spoiled, nor meat!

                Young man: And then what is the matter?

                Uzeyir Hajibeyov: Listen, my friend, an Armenian and a Russian child under 7 years old does not go to school, remains and is brought up at home. A Muslim child, up to 7 and up to 8 and up to 9 years old, does not go to school and remains at home. Now let's see what they do at home. An Armenian and Russian child, brought up at home by a competent and educated mother, puts to bed on time, lets go for a walk in the fresh air on time, takes the child's free time with toys that are useful both for spirit and morality, and for physical health. The ears of this child do not hear a single bad and harmful word. What does he hear? Beautiful music for the soul and health, stories, poems and legends written especially for children by famous teachers, correct and instructive speeches of their parents, conversations of cultural and educated guests of their homes. What do they see? Painted on the walls of their homes are appealing eyes, images of flowers, beautifully illustrated magazines and books on the tables, cleanliness and order surround them on four sides, etc. Very often, their mothers lead them to watch “cinematography”, explain to them the essence and meaning of the frames and photographs shown.

                What about our children? Do not bring Allah. All that they hear is dirty swearing and swearing, intrigues and wicked words, what they saw are the bad deeds of their adults, everywhere they are surrounded by dirt and impurities, places where they play, in dust and in the ground, and they are served as toys ... choke cats, beat dogs, douse mice with oil and burn. Thus, before our children cross the threshold of school, “their house is already destroyed”, that is, they are deprived of education right from the root and therefore we get a sad result.

                That is our misfortune, in the Ummah. So neither our blood nor our bones are corrupted.

                1909 August 19th. Uzeyir Hajibeyov
                1. 416sd
                  0
                  19 January 2013 11: 36
                  320 sd:

                  So do you really think that we ourselves have not read this? Yes
                  If you do to expose Azerbaijanis in a bad light, then it makes no sense - here half is already not very good with Azerbaijanis. And if you do for us, I don’t know how Alibek, I read ... And I know how the Azerbaijani people were formed, what are their strengths and weaknesses.

                  By the way, I also read Armenian classics, I have as many as three shelves ... Starting from the ancient poems "Hymn to Letters" and David Sasuntsi, ending with Yeghishe Charents, etc.

                  Your approach is that in Russia there are only fools and roads ...

                  Do not do this, I wrote above that these peoples, regardless of whether there will soon be peace or war, still have to live side by side ...
  6. Yarbay
    -5
    18 January 2013 09: 20
    **** In 2011 alone, Azerbaijan acquired weapons from Israel for $ 1,6 billion. Among the purchases are anti-ship cruise missiles of the Gabriel type (the quantity is not disclosed), unmanned aerial vehicles Heron (five complexes) and Searcher (five complexes), one Barak type air defense system and 75 missiles to it, as well as the EL / M-2080 Green Pine radar. Even earlier, Azerbaijan acquired Orbiter and Aerostar reconnaissance drones, PC30 Lynx, 5,56 mm TAR-21 TAVOR assault rifles and other weapons from Israel. In 2011, an Israeli UAV was launched in Azerbaijan. ****- the author is inattentive, inaccurate !!!!
    Combined weapons purchased by Azerbaijan until 2011 !!
    1.9 billion contract with Israel signed in 2012!

    *** In this context, one cannot but pay attention to the proposal of the deputies of the Azerbaijani parliament to rename their republic to Northern Azerbaijan. Without the approval of President Ilham Aliyev, MPs could not put forward such a proposal. *** -just do not pay attention!
    this statement was made in response to the insults of the country by some Iranian deputies, on the eve of Eurovision! You have Zhirinovsky’s day making one hundred such statements!

    ** It is clear that the first goal is Nagorno-Karabakh. The stronger the armed forces of Azerbaijan become, the more aggressive the tone of Azerbaijani politicians and the public. This is a very dangerous moment, there is a temptation with the help of the army to solve the foreign policy problem ** -If the problem is not solved by other means, what is it solved in addition to the army?
    ** There are decisions and resolutions of international organizations, including four resolutions of the UN Security Council, which require the withdrawal of Armenian occupying forces from the territory of Azerbaijan. However, Yerevan ignores the norms of international law and continues the occupation of Azerbaijani land. According to Aliyev, historical justice lies in the fact that "Nagorno-Karabakh is our historical, primordial land," and the present Republic of Armenia has arisen on the historical lands of Azerbaijan. The President of Azerbaijan calls the decision to transfer Erivani to Armenia as the capital in 1918 a great mistake and crime, since the Irevan Khanate is an Azerbaijani historical land. The head of Azerbaijan did not stop there and stated that the invented Armenian state was created on the historical lands of Azerbaijan, and they are currently trying to create a second invented Armenian state (Nagorno-Karabakh). “The time will come when Azerbaijan will restore its territorial integrity by any means. Both historical justice and international law recognize this right for us, ”the head of the Azerbaijani state said. In fact, these are the words of war, which is not far off. *** -and what does the author not like here !?
    The President said everything correctly !!
    1. +9
      18 January 2013 09: 32
      Is the ego growing?) Do you think that you are like Georgians at one time?) And if you don’t support them, what then?) The last 9 will go to history, are there few states that have gone down to history?) I understand no one I don’t want to learn from mistakes, in your place, I wouldn’t even unsubscribe in this article shining my flag, and even more so I would not use the Cyrillic alphabet. In the article, your state is called my enemy, I don’t bother you, what am I here, what am I writing under the Russian flag?)
      Do not dishonor your people and do not write in Cyrillic, you have your own language, so be proud of it and write in it!
      1. kNow
        +1
        18 January 2013 11: 01
        Quote: Marrying
        Do you think that you are like Georgians at one time?)

        We are smarter, Zhenya ...
        Quote: Marrying
        The last 9 will go into history, are there few states that have gone into history?)

        And the remaining 21 million?

        Quote: Marrying
        As I understand it, no one wants to learn from mistakes, in your place, I would not even unsubscribe in this article shining my flag and even more so did not use the Cyrillic alphabet.

        Does man have any kind of deadly sin?
        Quote: Marrying
        In the article, your state is called the enemy of mine

        This is what your journalist calls it, someone asked our opinion?
        Quote: Marrying
        Do not dishonor your people and do not write in Cyrillic, you have your own language, so be proud of it and write in it!

        We have our own language, we are proud of it, and also proud that we can speak with our neighbors in their own language. Although our neighbors cannot boast of this ....
        1. +12
          18 January 2013 11: 27
          Yes, unfortunately, I just have to know a different language, at the moment it is of a world plan and Azerbaijan is nothing to me, no offense. I won’t go to you to earn a living on a black bread, I have enough of my power with its needs and you have to know the Russian language for the reason, as it is written, it seems to you above that many work in the Russian Federation, and not because of great love for my tongue.
          1. 416sd
            +3
            18 January 2013 13: 24
            You have to know the Russian language for the reason, as it is written, it seems like you said above that many work in the Russian Federation, and not because of a great love for my language.

            We know your language because we lived 100 years together in one state, and then lived together another 70 in another ... and my son will know Russian and his son will know Russian, because the Russian language in Azerbaijan is an indicator of intelligence. culture and much more ... Russian is not only your language ... It is also my language, because I think in Russian ...

            You are an enemy of Russia. You are an enemy of the Russian. It's not for you to judge which language I like more. I know your language better than you, your literature I know better than you, your history I know better than you, I am more Russian than you ... You are not Russian at all after what you wrote here.
            1. +2
              18 January 2013 20: 08
              Are you telling me that you are more Russian than me? A man who graduated from a literary school, a man who is a future candidate of historical sciences? Who are you to write to me? I despise Azerbaijanis, as well as Kyrgyz, I absolutely do not care what your son will know. How do you know what great power we have, how do you know that? You are savages for the most part, who understand only the language of power. What once because of some interests, we took to ourselves one of the next dwarf states, which is now called Azerbaijan? You are going to my country, not I to yours.
              This is my country can wipe your feet on yours and your mouth will not open, not the other way around. So be careful with your statements. Armenians, personally from my friends, are respected, since the people are smart, and there are many Armenians, they despise Azerbaijanis and do not lead friendships with them, here are the realities, go down from heaven to earth.
              1. 416sd
                0
                18 January 2013 20: 41
                good black sheet function ....
                is free!
        2. +5
          18 January 2013 16: 18
          If Azerbaijan were from the Baltic to the Pacific Ocean, and the Russians were a diaspora in its territory, then with knowledge of the language it would be the other way around. No offense! Well, Russians cannot learn the languages ​​of all peoples who once lived in the USSR. Agree. So this is not an occasion for pride, but a historical necessity. And secondly, Russia will live without Azerbaijan, even if all Russians are expelled to Russia from there, but on the contrary how? In general, the ambition is excessive - a bad adviser, for anyone, I think that solving the Karabakh problem with weapons is nonsense. It’s the same that Russia would seriously consider returning Crimea by aggression.
          1. -4
            18 January 2013 16: 24
            Azerbaijan will be able to live quietly without Russia! But Armenia is under a big question! all Armenians will die of hunger
      2. +14
        18 January 2013 11: 44
        Quote: Marrying
        Do not dishonor your people and do not write in Cyrillic, you have your own language, so be proud of it and write in it!

        This is a Russian site and a person who respects us all writes in Cyrillic and where is the shame. Here we have already reprimanded people for writing in Latin. "If I were you, I would not even unsubscribe in this article shining my flag" And if he went out under a false flag, would you say that a coward is even afraid to show his flag?
        1. +4
          18 January 2013 12: 02
          No, but I do not consider Azerbaijan a friendly state, rather, on the contrary, I support exclusively Orthodox Armenians.
          1. Yarbay
            -1
            18 January 2013 12: 22
            Quote: Marrying
            I support exclusively Orthodox Armenians.


            since when did the pro-Orthodox Armenians ??
            Punch in Google, why are Armenians heretics, there you will find the opinion of the Russian Orthodox Church !!
            They support it because they consider this or that party to be fair, then I understand !!
            1. +1
              18 January 2013 12: 32
              Punch in Google, why are Armenians heretics, there you will find the opinion of the Russian Orthodox Church !!

              Now the Russian Orthodox Church is a business, and there are very few who really live by covenants ...
              And yet, there are no heretics in Orthodoxy, there are schismatics and sectarians, heretics are from Catholicism ...
              1. Yarbay
                -5
                18 January 2013 12: 33
                Quote: PSih2097
                heretics are from Catholicism ..

                Armenians are Catholics))))))))
                They have a katalikos, not a patriarch))))))))))))))
                1. Artmark
                  +5
                  18 January 2013 15: 28
                  write about what you know for sure!
                2. aray
                  +1
                  21 January 2013 00: 51
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Armenians are Catholics))))))))

                  Here you go...
                  It seems that a literate person is considered. And the Armenian Apostolic Church cannot distinguish from Catholicism, or does not know.)
                  He calls Armenians Catholics only because we have not the Patriarch, but the Catholicos.
                  Bravo! good
            2. 320sd
              +1
              18 January 2013 19: 17
              Yes, read that since 301 AD How they became Christians. In 4 Chalcedon Cathedral did not participate due to the war with the Persians. In which Byzantium promised to help and na..la. So, study, Mr. Colonel.
            3. 0
              18 January 2013 20: 12
              You don’t even know what religion the Armenians profess, and they have one religion with them, as well as with Georgians, Belarusians, Ukrainians. They are our brothers in religion, and indeed in our hearts, which is not unimportant.
          2. +5
            18 January 2013 13: 41
            Eugene, all the same, I’ll correct you a little, the Armenians are Gregorians, there are a number of differences from Byzantine Christianity and Roman Catholicism ... Not Orthodox - for sure ... And yet, if you calmly think, you will agree that knowledge of languages ​​is not a shame, worse, when you speak and write in your own with mistakes ...
            1. +1
              18 January 2013 20: 13
              Thank you I agree with you, but it was about the Azerbaijani language, which is absolutely not relevant in my country and in the world.
          3. +3
            18 January 2013 14: 08
            Zhen Bee insults, and how do Armenians differ from Azerbaijanis for the better for you?
            1. +5
              18 January 2013 20: 16
              They are much closer to me, you know why? So, against the background of global Wahhabism, and Azerbaijan is an Islamic state, I won’t be surprised that there can be such sentiments when the power changes, unlike Armenia, where this cannot be by definition.
          4. +2
            18 January 2013 16: 23
            I think that we must be able to understand people of different faiths and respect them, until they have given rise to a different attitude. I understand that relations with Azerbaijan are largely shaped by relations with the Azerbaijani diaspora in Russia. This is a separate and very difficult topic.
      3. 416sd
        0
        18 January 2013 13: 22
        I would not even unsubscribe in this article shining with my flag and even more so did not use the Cyrillic alphabet.

        Problem deyil Jenya, istəsən lap Azərbaycanca yox belə lap ürəyin istəyən dildə yazaram winked
        Wie sie wünschen Jenya, personlich ich kann nich nur Azerbaidjanish, doch anderes Sprache schreiben ...
        Not a problem Jenya, İ can write not only in Azeri, but any other language comfortable for you ...
        Խնդիր չկա, ես չեմ կարող գրել, ոչ միայն Ադրբեջանի, ալ

        In the article, your state is called my enemy, I don’t bother you, what am I here, what am I writing under the Russian flag?)

        I, too, can write an article and call Guinea Bissau an enemy of Honduras.
        1. 320sd
          0
          18 January 2013 19: 23
          A much bigger problem is that, according to official statistics alone, Azerbaijan’s losses for 2012 amounted to more than 100 people. Of these, only 16 from the fire of Armenians. A whole company in peacetime. At this pace, under the sensitive guidance of Safar, you will not have to fight with anyone.

          Vladimir Kazimirov: Is there a new trip to Nagorno-Karabakh?

          Details: http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1610724.html#ixzz2ILRgK2kV
          Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM news agency.
          1. 416sd
            0
            18 January 2013 19: 46
            1. You do not need to refer to Regnum, open the editorial staff of Regnum and read who its director is ...
            2. Can I show the statistics of the death of Armenian soldiers in 2012? She's not much less ...
            1. 320sd
              -1
              18 January 2013 19: 49
              Much, eldash, very, very much. And we are not talking about 41 askers who remained lying on Armenian soil in the events of early June 2012.
              And if you are talking about Kazimirov's article, then in vain. To blame him for something at least "moviton"))
              1. 416sd
                +1
                18 January 2013 20: 16
                winked
                Stop sucking out of your finger. If 41 soldiers had remained lying in the beginning of June "on your" land, you would have staged a photo exhibition now. But there was nothing. Levon Melik Shakhnazaryan feeds you with stories you believe.
                1. 320sd
                  +2
                  18 January 2013 20: 22
                  Among those who were not named were lieutenant Bayramov Akif Novruz oglu, junior sergeant Kurbanov Zulfugar, junior sergeant Akhmedov Natik Suleiman oglu and Private Shirinov Oktay Elman oglu, who were destroyed during an intelligence and sabotage trip to the Republic of Armenia.
                  1. 416sd
                    +1
                    18 January 2013 20: 43
                    smile
                    I already answered you above ...
            2. Arinberry
              +2
              21 January 2013 00: 43
              let's statistics .. if for you 50% is not much ..
        2. 320sd
          +1
          18 January 2013 19: 43
          And yes, by the way, dear, Heydar. Could you tell us why the rally on the fountain square took place on January 12? Was there a boy? )))))))))))))))))
          1. 416sd
            +1
            18 January 2013 20: 17
            You behave as if I had hidden a dragon in a bag.
            I myself was at this rally.
            The rally was against hazing in the Army ...
            By the way in your army there is no hazing? Or does Hayastan 1 also show you only iron toys and parades?
            1. 320sd
              +1
              18 January 2013 20: 23
              Hazing? This is great and invincible. The most-for 4 billion dollars a year? Are you kidding me? )))))))))))
              The first working days of I. Aliyev after his short-term vacation at the beginning of the New Year were marked by a new grandiose scandal connected with non-combat losses in the Armed Forces of the country.

              On January 8, a message was circulated about the death of a recruit of the Azerbaijani army, Jeykhun Gubadov, who was called up by the Absheron military registration and enlistment office in the military unit in Dashkesan. According to forensic science, the soldier died of heart failure. However, according to the mother of the soldier Samira Gubadova, her son died as a result of violence. That is, he was killed. Relatives of the soldier presented to the editorial office of the Azadlig newspaper video material and photographs taken in the morgue. From the photographs it is clear that the soldier was brutally beaten and killed.

              Given the rather difficult socio-political situation, this time the Azerbaijani authorities took some preventive measures to calm the discontent of the population with recent similar cases. The Republican military prosecutor’s office opened a criminal case on the death of a soldier Jeyhun Zaman oglu Gubadov. The head of the press service of the Ministry of Defense, Colonel Eldar Sabiroglu, said that an investigation was underway in this regard. To the surprise of many in the republic, for the first time in all the years of the Aliyev clan’s rule, the mother of the deceased soldier was personally received by the Prosecutor General of the Republic of Azerbaijan Z. Garalov, where she was promised that the perpetrators of the tragedy would be punished and the state would financially support the family of the deceased. Following this, the commander of the Shamkhor corps, Lieutenant General R. Akperov received another, already final penalty. Disciplinary punishment was received by several officers of the military unit, where the deceased soldier served. According to Turan, on the day of the rally in the morning, reinforced police and security services concentrated in every district of the capital (in schools) and waited for orders.
              1. 416sd
                +2
                18 January 2013 20: 57
                So it means - both you and we have the same problems in the army ...
                We have more than three to one stupid cases of emergency because we have more ...
                the moral and psychological state in both armies is the same ... with hazing, too, all one to one ...
                1. 320sd
                  -1
                  18 January 2013 22: 13
                  We have different problems in the army. In Armenia, men in the army do not use men instead of women. As explained by Sabiroglu, this is because your conscripts are well fed, here they have toastosterone and rolls over))))))))))))) And in Armenia everyone is starving)))))))
        3. sarvelon
          0
          20 January 2013 02: 40
          Your Yandex translator is faulty
  7. +3
    18 January 2013 09: 38
    We have an agreement with Armenia with Iran too. Let's immediately declare war on Russia
    1. +1
      18 January 2013 09: 58
      It’s absolutely true, only I’m afraid there will be no humanity towards the Azerbaijanis, since the same Georgians are Orthodox and we always considered them to be close to us in spirit, therefore the conflict was not protracted and relations are being established little by little.
      Absolutely the opposite attitude towards Azerbaijanis, the majority of Russians do not like to put it mildly, moreover, the attitude of Moscow and Baku is strained, and the religion is completely different, not popular so to speak in Russia. Three reasons a single result.
      1. +3
        18 January 2013 11: 20
        both Azerbaijanis and Armenians are quite adequate people. and the attitude towards them is the same, if only because the majority simply do not distinguish between them. And relations between Moscow and Baku are better than between Moscow and Tbilisi. Remember at least the 90s. From the side of Azerbaijan, almost no gangster went to war against us.
  8. Yarbay
    -4
    18 January 2013 09: 51
    *** that relations between Tehran and Baku were on the verge of freezing when Azerbaijan announced the arrest of 40 "terrorists" from the Islamic Movement of Azerbaijan, who were accused of organizing attacks against Israeli diplomats and public figures in Azerbaijan. According to Baku, the Islamic Republic supported the “terrorists.” ***-Why do you write terrorists in brackets ??
    these terrorists were arrested just before the attempted terrorist attack!

    They in their testimonies told in detail where, when, and by what means they prepared and were going to commit a crime!
    Together with the terrorists, weapons, ammunition and special equipment were confiscated!

    ** Iran is currently helping to overcome Armenia’s energy and partially transport isolation. After the death of Iran in its modern form, the problem of Nagorno-Karabakh will be easier to solve. ** -Absolutely right!!
    [u] and made laugh **, downed UAVs **-who shot down and how much ???))))
    It has already been shown and proved more than once that the only * type of downed * UAV in 2010 belonged to Armenia itself!

    *** Iran in response accused Azerbaijan of collaborating with the Israeli secret services and indirectly participating in the sabotage of the “Zionists" against the Islamic Republic. **-Iran accused Azerbaijan of allegedly physicist killers escaping from Iran using our border !!
    So who is to blame ?? Why were they released ?? Is there their border there too? Why were they not wanted?


    ** Unfortunately, at present Russia does not have truly effective levers of influence on Baku’s policy. ***-who's guilty???
    and Russia has a big leverage - this is the Karabakh conflict !!
  9. 416sd
    +2
    18 January 2013 09: 58
    1. For inaccuracies in the article above have already expressed;
    2. according to the growth of the army and the quantity of purchases of armaments - fir trees, so YOU ​​SHOULD BUY, our main supplier of arms is Russia. Not happy? - Do not sell.
    3. The author really pulled "pussy under the navel", you can see where the ears grow from the article. Using the tension around the Gabala issue, the author tries to prove that Azerbaijan is an enemy of Russia and Iran. I will not even comment on Russia, I will tell you about Iran now. The official spokesman for the country's foreign policy is the head of state and the Foreign Ministry. Both there and there it was repeatedly said that Azerbaijan would not participate in the action against Iran under any circumstances, it would be equal to suicide. Everything else - quotes from retirees, a couple of deputies - I can bring such quotes from Russia of the very category "Zhirinovsky" three trains and a cart. This is not a reflection of politics, there can be different opinions in the country.
    4. Concerning Karabakh - Russia does not recognize Karabakh. Even Armenia itself does not recognize him. There are no Russian peacekeepers in Karabakh like in Ossetia and Abkhazia. For 20 years the UN has adopted a 4 +1 resolution confirming the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. Then, when we deem it necessary, we are free to throw out from our territory that trash who today calls itself the "Nagorno-Karabakh Republic".
    5. As for Iran - what does he write there "if Iran as a state disappears"? Such states as Iran do not disappear, Iran is 4 thousand years old. And this is not Iraq. Enough to build speculation around the fact that Iran will be fooled. Nobody will ever hit Iran.
    6. Nationalism of Iranian Azerbaijanis we do not need. Azerbaijan is a small country with 9 million people, there are 30 million of them, it is not we who will join them, but they are us. Do we need it? Another question is that they constantly say from the side that there are plans for South Azerbaijan. There are no such plans. It's just out of the realm of fiction. Well, the reasoning of the marginalized (tourists, juzgurd, etc.).
    1. Yarbay
      +1
      18 January 2013 10: 09
      Quote: 416sd
      Nationalism of Iranian Azerbaijanis we do not need.

      I also believe that we have a much different mentality and categorically against unification !!
      It is not known who will then steer !!
      Enough of shocks!
      Do not want to live with the Persians - let them live on their own!
      1. 416sd
        +9
        18 January 2013 10: 15
        Yarbai, these are two different nations, so what do we speak the same language?
        I have repeatedly been to Tehran and Tabriz, Azerbaijanis are categorically against this fiction. They are in terms of patriotism and nationalism - primarily Iranians, they are for a strong Iranian state, another question is that they have a number of problems (there are schools in their own language, cultural issues), but their logic is this - DO NOT TOUCH US, WE WILL UNDERSTAND US . Moreover, 70% of the military-political elite are from South Azerbaijan. They themselves do not need it. This is necessary for such zrushnikami as Chehregani, etc. Well, they understand whose dance they are dancing and who they substitute for whom. I would have planted Chekhregani at the place of our special services.
        1. Yarbay
          +1
          18 January 2013 10: 26
          Quote: 416sd
          I have been to Tehran and Tabriz repeatedly

          I, too!
          In general, I support you, but there is dissatisfaction and a desire to separate with the Persians from certain forces!
          And these forces are very well organized!
          I generally think that Azerbaijanis living in Iran are much more politically active !!
          As for those who are currently serving the regime in Iran, I consider them to be assimilated Persians!
          He spoke with some, they do not associate themselves with Azerbaijanis, consider themselves Iranians !!
          1. 416sd
            +4
            18 January 2013 10: 31
            Gardash is normal ... They are citizens of this state, this is their homeland ...
            And Iran has never been a purely Persian state, at least since the 15th century ... There is a serious Turkic element. This is their state, as well as Persian, Tajik, Baloch ...
            We have our own problems, to hell with us. I just don’t understand - more than ourselves about the fact that we have problems with the Persians in Russia, Turks, Amers, Jews - yes, fight it already, fight it, that’s the point! We have our own problem of Karabakh, this Iranian issue has already reached.
            1. Yarbay
              +2
              18 January 2013 10: 41
              Quote: 416sd
              Gardash is normal ... They are citizens of this state, this is their homeland ...

              Quote: 416sd
              We have our own problems, to hell with us.

              Totally agree!
      2. +2
        18 January 2013 14: 22
        The same with Russia with the outskirts
      3. +3
        18 January 2013 17: 33
        Quote: Yarbay
        I also believe that we have a much different mentality and categorically against unification !!

        Yes, different, but I'm for unification.
        Quote: Yarbay
        It is not known who will then steer !!

        Most likely they are. They are simply bigger.
        Quote: Yarbay
        Enough of shocks!
        Do not want to live with the Persians - let them live on their own

        This is no longer right; it is our fellow countrymen and we are obliged to unite with them. And as for culture, cohabitation unifies the entire population leaving small features.
        We will be strong if we are together, and if we don’t want to get a story from the DPRK and the South Caucasus. When one people fights. We have enough enemies around the perimeter to reject our brothers.
    2. borisst64
      +6
      18 January 2013 10: 30
      Quote: 416sd
      we are free to throw out from our territory that trash who today calls itself the "Nagorno-Karabakh Republic".

      If this is the opinion of Azerbaijanis, then things are really crap.
      1. Yarbay
        -4
        18 January 2013 10: 42
        Quote: borisst64
        If this is the opinion of Azerbaijanis, then things are really crap.

        Do you doubt it?
        Do you think for us there is a question more important than this ??
        1. +4
          18 January 2013 10: 56
          Quote: Yarbay
          Do you think for us there is a question more important than this ??

          Hi Alibek, the question is, BUT the price may not be lifting for Azerbaijan. Where the interests of the powers are, the position of the force does not work. The war may be more obvious that it will end at the same borders as now.
          1. Yarbay
            0
            18 January 2013 11: 14
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Hi Alibek, the question is, BUT the price may not be lifting for Azerbaijan. Where the interests of the powers are, the position of the force does not work. The war may be more obvious that it will end at the same borders as now.


            Hi Sanya!
            I perfectly understand what you are talking about and the fact that our leadership has not yet begun using the army to liberate territories, there is clear evidence of an understanding of the situation and a thorough preparation !!
            I am a simple citizen of my country, I want to start a war!
            It’s easier for me to die than to live knowing that enemies trample with impunity the lands where the graves of my ancestors are !!
            I wrote that I would definitely take my son to war !!
            this is my desire and desire!
      2. 416sd
        +8
        18 January 2013 10: 50
        You can be sure that this is the opinion of Azerbaijanis.

        Regardless of who is in power, regardless, Azerbaijanis will never accept this.

        Armenians as a nation are not our enemies. Today, from 15 to 20 thousand Armenians from mixed marriages live in Azerbaijan. There are only six Azerbaijanis left in Armenia. Both are official statistics.

        Always if you take something - you need to give something. I am for the model - YOUR LAND BUT OUR TERRITORY. You want a flag - here is a flag for you. You want a monetary unit - here it is for you. Do you want your national football team like the Scots and Wales - here. If you want your own police and security forces, we are ready. If you want a demilitarized zone, we are for it. But Karabakh is an Azerbaijani TERRITORY ... And an Armenian LAND. It must be understood that neither we nor Armenia will fly into space and forever we will have to live side by side even after peace or war.

        You just need to want to - first withdraw troops from several areas surrounding Karabakh.

        All this was offered at the negotiations more than once. Another issue is that the sovereignty of Armenia has a cat that cried, it does not take decisions for itself. And it became a toy, and the matter is not only in Russia, - in the hands of the same Armenian diaspora in the USA, it is also a toy.
        1. +4
          18 January 2013 11: 39
          Nagorno-Karabakh is a wick that slowly but surely creeps to a barrel of gunpowder. Get involved in the war, Armenia will enter 95% on the other side, and the military conflict automatically gets problems (MILITARY!) From Russia, what will you do in this situation? What?
          No pride will help here and no weapons, the last 2 years the group in the south has been increased and updated, everything is not just that, and the teaching of the Caucasus 2012 is an example of this.
          1. 416sd
            -4
            18 January 2013 13: 54
            Be quiet, you already showed a nose from around the corner with a post about the Russian language wink
        2. mamba
          +2
          18 January 2013 14: 54
          Quote: 416sd
          But Karabakh is an Azerbaijani TERRITORY ... And an Armenian LAND.

          History has instructed many time mines on which entire nations are periodically undermined. It is not the fault of Armenians and Azerbaijanis that both of them lived and live on this land, which they claim as their original. Yes, on this land are the graves of their ancestors. She can be called "sacred and inviolable", to accumulate strength for her liberation, to prepare for a liberation war. Even my son will not be sorry for this. But what is the bottom line? Will the land of Karabakh, plowed by explosions and covered with new graves, be a worthy prize in the future war with Armenia? Moreover, if, God forbid, you have to put your son's life on the altar of this victory?
          1. Yarbay
            -2
            18 January 2013 15: 01
            Quote: mamba
            Moreover, if you, God forbid, have to put the life of your son on the altar of this victory.


            I won’t hesitate for a second!
            In WWII, few children lost their parents ???
            Would give everything to Hitler ??
        3. +4
          18 January 2013 16: 34
          "If you want a flag - here's a flag for you. You want a monetary unit - here it is for you. You want your national football team like the Scots and Wales - here. If you want your police and security forces, we are ready." - I'm afraid it's not real. As soon as the Law of Azerbaijan begins to rule on the territory of Karabakh, the Armenians will start to squeeze with a sly sly, declaring the opposite. Maybe I'm wrong, sorry, but during my life I have formed such an opinion - in the Caucasus there is a very strong division into friends and foes by nationality (and within the people by clan), and the official law is up to one place. You can declare one thing in the media, but in life you can do the opposite - the main thing is that it is as it should be for "ours". Maybe I'm wrong, only fools are 100% sure of their subjective opinion, but experience .. life experience .. ((
        4. -4
          18 January 2013 17: 39
          Quote: 416sd

          You can be sure that this is the opinion of Azerbaijanis.

          Regardless of who is in power, regardless, Azerbaijanis will never accept this.

          It’s true. But for some reason, the media drives people in Russia into the brain that the West is doing everything.
          Quote: 416sd
          Armenians as a nation are not our enemies.

          Heh, I don’t agree with you here. So for the last 20 years we have been fighting the nation, everyone understands this in Azerbaijan. Armenia as a state cannot conclude an agreement with the Russian Federation on border protection, although the CSTO seems to have its charter, but Muslims understand that our Turks are Muslims will not go against it, but on the contrary, the Slavs will not particularly want the example of Georgia. At the international level, there is also a confrontation not with Armenia, but with the diaspora. All power is with them. Aliyev correctly spoke to our enemy in their lobby, but in Armenians lobby. So the struggle is waged with the Armenians and their human potential should be destroyed in the war to the maximum.
          1. +2
            19 January 2013 01: 35
            Yes, you are calling for genocide. Don't you think so?
            1. +2
              19 January 2013 19: 58
              Quote: Mairos

              Yes, you are calling for genocide. Don't you think so?


              I say real things. The war will be to destroy everyone on their own side, what is ours.
          2. 416sd
            +1
            19 January 2013 11: 42
            Eraz

            The potential of the armed forces and the human potential of the country are two different things ...

            I will ask you a direct question. Could you kill an unarmed woman? Personally, yourself, from the machine? We could? Even if I had watched footage from Khojaly a minute before, I would not have been able to. an Armenian soldier of captive could even. but there is no child, woman, old man. Not because I'm weak, because I'm strong! because I am Azerbaijani.

            We live in the 21st century, no matter how this issue ends in peace or even war, you can be sure that we still live there with them. By the way, the official position of all state (and not only) structures in Azerbaijan is in direct contradiction with your words.

            Today, tens of thousands of Armenians live in Baku. Here go and kill if you want. And then live with it.

            Below they answered you, do not call for genocide.
            1. +2
              19 January 2013 20: 07
              Quote: 416sd

              Eraz

              The potential of the armed forces and the human potential of the country are two different things ...

              I will ask you a direct question. Could you kill an unarmed woman? Personally, yourself, from the machine? We could? Even if I had watched footage from Khojaly a minute before, I would not have been able to. an Armenian soldier of captive could even. but there is no child, woman, old man. Not because I'm weak, because I'm strong! because I am Azerbaijani.

              We live in the 21st century, no matter how this issue ends in peace or even war, you can be sure that we still live there with them. By the way, the official position of all state (and not only) structures in Azerbaijan is in direct contradiction with your words.

              Today, tens of thousands of Armenians live in Baku. Here go and kill if you want. And then live with it.

              Below they answered you, do not call for genocide.

              I will answer you. The child is unarmed, the old man is unarmed and there is no child. Here armed yes. Secondly, he could kill people with 17 personally yes. The other question is, they also have people who could not kill a woman or an old man. The trick is that in the army there are a lot of people and each one is arranged differently. And there is a category of people there are not many of them, but there are people who could kill, which, in principle, they did. Someone got high, someone in return.
              but if there was a ballistic missile button and I didn’t see these people, then I could.
              Believe me, I do not think so because I hate Armenians fiercely, absolutely not. I am a pragmatist, simply their human resource is their main potential, and the less this potential is, the less we will lose.
              Regarding the government. And what did you think Ilham Aliyev would say to the whole world that the Armenians would be destroyed ?? As if even if he really didn’t want this, he won’t be able to control it, and secondly, the civilian population would leave immediately .Therefore, genocide is not expected there due to the small size of the civilian population and its outcome with the outbreak of war.
              1. 320sd
                0
                19 January 2013 20: 16
                due to the small size of the civilian population and its outcome with the outbreak of war

                Firstly, 150 Armenians living in Nagorno-Karabakh are not a few.
                Secondly, more askers were remembered with the outcomes of the First Artsakh. As Heydar Baba said: "The Zangelan region was surrendered, having lost 27 soldiers."
                1. +2
                  19 January 2013 21: 08
                  Quote: 320sd
                  Firstly, 150 Armenians living in Nagorno-Karabakh are not a few.

                  Physically, there are not 150 thousand there, both in Armenia 3.5 and in Azerbaijan 9.2.
                  Quote: 320sd
                  Secondly, more askers were remembered with the outcomes of the First Artsakh. As Heydar Baba said: "Zangelan region was surrendered, having lost 27 soldiers."

                  Do not compare the first war with the coming one. We did not have an army then. Specialists, too. I will help you not to start a long argument where we will not prove anything to each other.
                  And the most important fact is that Armenia is afraid of Azerbaijan, it officially confirmed when the existing charter in the CSTO, when they attack any of the participants, came to the aid, the lease agreement in Gyumri was changed, where the Russian Federation committed itself, besides the Turkish border, to protect the entire border. , on the contrary, the Persians and you are friends. With Georgia it is ridiculous. But Azerbaijan. Che are you so cool with a fucked army you conclude such agreements ???
              2. 416sd
                0
                19 January 2013 21: 58
                genocide is not expected there due to the small size of the civilian population and its outcome with the outbreak of war.

                Let me:

                1. Internet
                2. Ten Armenian journalists and videographers and photographers
                3. Ten cameras and camcorders
                4. A pair of female and children's corpses
                5. A few quotes from your post above

                AND I AM YOU SUCH A GENOCIDE TO ORDER ITS NIBIRA ACKNOWLEDGE EVEN THE PLANET ...

                That you think that the civilian population will leave. Many TAM will be very beneficial that it does not go away.
                1. 320sd
                  0
                  19 January 2013 22: 06
                  Heydar. And this guy Yeraz, when he writes
                  where the Russian Federation has committed itself, in addition to the Turkish National Guard, to guard the entire border
                  Does he say the generally accepted point of view in Azerbaijan? And why does the Russian Federation suddenly guard the Armenian-Azerbaijani and Armenian-Georgian borders? If this were so, then your saboteurs in June 2012 on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border would run into Russian border guards. That would be fun))))))))
                  1. 416sd
                    0
                    19 January 2013 22: 19
                    On "our saboteurs" I answered ...
                    Once again I will write - you are predictable as a calculator ... Once again, I give a link to the fact that it is the Russians who are standing in Zvartnots when the security regime is strengthened (by the way, the Russians there were repeatedly confirmed by the Russian bloggers who were coming to you):


                    on eat this:

                    Rosgranitsa will assist Armenia in the modernization of border infrastructures

                    Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan discussed on Wednesday with Dmitry Bezdelov, head of the Federal Agency for the Development of the State Border of the Russian Federation (Rosgranitsa), the issues of providing Rosgranitsa with assistance to the Armenian side in modernizing border infrastructures, the presidential press service reported.

                    “During the meeting, issues related to assistance in the modernization of border infrastructures and checkpoints after the opening of the Rosgranitsa representative office in the republic and the development of cooperation with the Armenian representative were discussed,” the statement said.

                    The parties noted with satisfaction that the Armenian-Russian relations in all areas - political, economic, humanitarian, as well as in the field of security, are at a high level and are developing dynamically.

                    On November 9, Secretary of the National Security Council of Armenia Artur Baghdasaryan told reporters that Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on opening a Rosgranitsa representative office in Armenia. According to him, the decree was signed during the visit of the delegation of the Security Council of Armenia to Moscow in mid-October.

                    Baghdasaryan added that the decree of the President of Russia will provide an opportunity to modernize the borders and strengthen the security of Armenia.

                    The state border of Armenia with Turkey (330 kilometers) and Iran (45 kilometers) is guarded by Russian border guards. The Armenian leadership considers the presence of Russian border guards, along with the Russian military base, an important component of the national security of the republic. The basis for the current stay of Russian border guards here is an interstate agreement on the status of Russian border troops in the republic, concluded in Yerevan on September 30, 1992.

                    The border department of the FSB of Russia in Armenia includes four border detachments - in Gyumri, Armavir, Artashat and Meghri, as well as a separate checkpoint at the Yerevan Zvartnots international airport. The maintenance of Russian border guards in Armenia (their number is about 4,5 thousand people) is provided by the governments of the two states approximately equally

                    http://www.rosgranitsa.ru/ru/pressa/monitor/5671
                    1. 320sd
                      0
                      19 January 2013 22: 32
                      Those. in June 2012, Azerbaijan did not undertake diversionary attacks on the territory of Armenia? Those. Azerbaijan is so poorly in control of its borders that it allows no one to attack from its territory on the territory of a neighboring UN member state? I remind you that the attack was not on the NKR-Azerbaijan border. The attack was on the territory of the Republic of Armenia!
                      And in Zvartnots I visit Russian bloggers more often))
                      separate checkpoint at the "Zvartnots" Yerevan International Airport

                      while reading, pay attention to the word "separate". Separate from what? ))))
                      1. 416sd
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 22: 40
                        NON-CURRENT BORDERS OF ARMENIA
                        Naira Hayrumyan

                        Last week, the Armenian government approved financial agreements on the allocation of credit funds of € 30,3 million and € 10 million by the European Investment Bank and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, respectively, with a view to implementing a program to modernize three border points (Bagratashen, Bavra , Gogavan) on the Armenian-Georgian border.

                        On the same day, Secretary of the National Security Council of Armenia Artur Baghdasaryan discussed with the head of the Federal Agency for the Development of the State Border of the Russian Federation Dmitry Bezdelov the issue of opening an agency representative office in Armenia. As noted in the official statement, “the opening of the representative office will help work on modernization and re-equipment of security systems of the state border of Armenia in the Turkish and Iranian sectors”.

                        The borders of Armenia, perhaps, reflect the true state of our state. The biggest absurdity is primarily the interstate agreement with Russia on the protection of the state borders of Armenia. Moreover, this is done on the absurd basis that Russia supposedly protects the former Soviet borders, in a new way - “the external borders of the CIS”. Moreover, the border of Armenia with Georgia, which has not been a member of the CIS for a long time, is not protected by Russia. And the border with the CIS member Azerbaijan, with which Armenia is in a state of undeclared war, is guarded by the Armenian army.

                        The authorities of Armenia, which will declare the cessation of vassality and the establishment of sovereignty, will first have to resolve the issue of border protection. Is Armenia able to protect its borders? What Russia is related to the Armenian-Turkish or Armenian-Iranian border? Why should Russian border guards meet us at Zvartnots airport? And can it be considered that Russia “gave away” the Armenian-Georgian border to Europe?

                        Border protection is the main condition of sovereignty, and it is absurd to say that spies infiltrate the country when the border of the country is guarded by foreign troops. This has nothing to do with international relations and even strategic partnership with Russia. This is not even related to the presence of a Russian military base in Gyumri.

                        The question is very specific - why are Russian border guards standing on the Armenian border? And if in these troops the majority are still mostly Armenians, why cannot these people guard the borders as part of the Armenian units? How much money does Russia allot to protect the Armenian borders, or is this done at the expense of the Armenian budget, as is the case with a military base?

                        http://www.lragir.am/index.php/rus/0/politics/view/26791
                      2. 320sd
                        0
                        19 January 2013 22: 51
                        The biggest absurdity is primarily the interstate agreement with Russia on the protection of the state borders of Armenia

                        The biggest is from the point of view of Naira Hayrumyan?
                        Does she really understand something about this? Just not familiar with either her or her work)))
                        But. Once again, I hope the last, on points:
                        1) The Armenian-Turkish and Armenian-Iranian state borders are guarded by the "Armenia" border department of the FSB of Russia, as I said earlier.
                        2) The Armenian-Azerbaijani and Armenian-Georgian are guarded by the border guards of Armenia, as I said earlier.
                        3) Arriving in Zvartonots personally, I have never been a citizen of the Russian Federation! (I fly three times a year) I did not meet the border guard in Russian uniform.
                        Let's end the discussion of this issue with this. Just tired of "from empty to empty".
                2. Arinberry
                  +1
                  21 January 2013 00: 59
                  Your Khojaly experience remains as I see it.
            2. aray
              -2
              20 January 2013 15: 42
              Quote: 416sd
              an Armenian soldier of captive could even. but there is no child, woman, old man. Not because I'm weak, because I'm strong! because I am Azerbaijani.

              You forgot to hide the tail, under a sheep skin (((
              You can all. Even you could kill your own under Agdam. I’m not talking about Baku, Sumgait, Maraga, Getashen, etc. So, do not make yourself an innocent hedgehog. We know your nature ... ((
              1. 416sd
                0
                20 January 2013 23: 15
                May your skin material visual ...
                Go learn russian language laughing
        5. Arinberry
          +1
          21 January 2013 00: 52
          Quote: 416sd
          Armenians as a nation are not our enemies. Today, from 15 to 20 thousand Armenians from mixed marriages live in Azerbaijan. There are only six Azerbaijanis left in Armenia. Both are official statistics.


          again, an attempt to seem tolerant .. there are no Armenians there, and in this quantity. You don’t even let people with an Armenian surname go to Azerbaijan. (I have a lot of examples; I’ll put links to me or I’ll understand what I’m talking about) Your president says that the number one enemy is the Armenians. So what are we talking about? If what you write is just your point of view, then indicate so, in all other cases I can consider you verbiage!
          Stop lying, on the one hand you are supposedly ready for expanded autonomy, on the other you are making SAfarov’s hero, so what's the matter?
          You even try to distort the events of January 20 .. the Turks also built their own state, the same methods. Or all the same, here is the question of Turan, the issue of which Turkey has activated.
    3. Akim
      +2
      18 January 2013 10: 45
      Quote: 416sd
      Our main arms supplier is Russia


      But Azerbaijan is diversifying from Russian arms supplies. In fact, he buys all new shock weapons from Israel, Pakistan and Ukraine.
      1. Yarbay
        +1
        18 January 2013 10: 52
        Quote: Akim
        In fact, he buys all new strike weapons from Israel, Pakistan and Ukraine


        What do you call ** shock ** ???
        Helicopters, tanks, rockets is an unstable weapon?
        Dozens of tanks, Mi-35 helicopters -36 pieces, rockets, multiple launch rocket systems were bought-Purchased from Russia !!!
        What was bought from Pakistan at all?
        1. 416sd
          +4
          18 January 2013 11: 06
          He confuses the fact that we sold our sniper rifle ORIGINAL to the pacistos.

          Or what they wanted to buy from them, the lousy Jief fighters but changed their minds. Good mindset. I remember heated debates in this regard with Jasur Sumerinli.
          1. Arinberry
            0
            21 January 2013 01: 01
            who bought a sniper rifle with a barrel from an anti-tank rifle? wassat
        2. Akim
          +1
          18 January 2013 11: 07
          Quote: Yarbay
          Helicopters, tanks, rockets is an unstable weapon?

          And then what about the shock - nuclear bombs ?. Air defense systems can be considered not shock, but Pakistani fighters, Israeli MLRS. Ukrainian tanks - somehow the language doesn’t turn to be called defensive means. I did not say that Azerbaijan will completely abandon Russian weapons - but it eliminates the monopoly of Rosoboronexport.
          1. kNow
            +3
            18 January 2013 11: 17
            Akim who want to sell us weapons are few. We buy from everyone who sells, and almost everything that they sell ....
          2. Yarbay
            0
            18 January 2013 11: 39
            Quote: Akim
            and Pakistani fighters,

            it was not bought, your speculation!
            The number of Israeli MLRS is much less than those bought from Russia!
            Quote: Akim
            And then what about the shock - nuclear bombs ?.

            What am I talking about ??
            Quote: Akim
            but it eliminates the monopoly of Rosoboronexport.

            I agree!
            1. +6
              18 January 2013 11: 46
              Yarbay,
              Alibek, you remember the base about which Tanftanaz argued. Here is the news on it which Yary laid out. It was not so simple.


              Taftanaz military airport in Syria has become a cemetery for opposition militants
              Allen Jules, a popular French blogger and specialist in the Middle East and North Africa, reports on the capture by the Syrian government of the Taftanaz military airport in the province of Idleb, previously captured by opposition fighters:

              The terrorists cried like Mary Magdalene, washing Christ's feet when the Syrian army bombed them, allowing them to enter the territory of the Taftanaz military airfield earlier.

              Trapped, the poor fellow surrendered, raising their hands to his head. Some after the heavy bombardment were completely naked. In rags, blackened by fire, they left the hangars to surrender. Pouring hot tears, some swore to others that they had recruited them. It was a miserable sight.
              1. Yarbay
                0
                18 January 2013 12: 28
                Quote: Alexander Romanov

                Trapped, the poor fellow surrendered, raising their hands to his head. Some after the heavy bombardment were completely naked. In rags, blackened by fire, they left the hangars to surrender. Pouring hot tears, some swore to others that they had recruited them. It was a miserable sight.

                If so, well done !!
                Very glad!
          3. +2
            18 January 2013 17: 16
            2 factories on modernization of infantry fighting vehicles, MTLB were built in Azerbaijan ... The MOA conversion department works closely with the MOU and others - they buy towers, for example, in South Africa. The equipment is mainly sold to third countries.
        3. Akim
          0
          18 January 2013 11: 32
          Quote: Yarbay
          What do you call ** shock ** ???

          More like this is not a Russian self-propelled gun

          And the purchased Kazakh MLRS also has roots not from Russia but from the "promised land"

          And these MLRS come from Pakistan / China.
          1. Yarbay
            0
            18 January 2013 12: 31
            Quote: Akim

            And these MLRS come from Pakistan / China.


            You are mistaken is the Israeli MLRS!
            and there is no Kazakh !!
            1. Akim
              0
              18 January 2013 12: 49
              Yarbay,
              Kamaz with a warhead is called MLRS "Niza" with a modular part. Kazakh development (quite a successful truth with the help of the Israelis) In this case, there is an Israeli-made artillery unit with a caliber of 140 mm. And in the Lawns, in the bodies - a towed 106-mm unit, made in China or Pakistan (depending on where you bought it).
              The chassis itself does not play a role
              Here's an example of an Israeli recoilless mortar on the Merce chassis.
              1. Yarbay
                -1
                18 January 2013 13: 00
                Quote: Akim
                Kamaz with a warhead is called MLRS "Niza" with a modular part
                !
                Quote: Akim
                Here's an example of an Israeli recoilless mortar on the Merce chassis.

                and what? if a Mercedes car, then the weapon is German, not Israeli ??
                I do not understand your logic! ??
                Many machines are made at our enterprises !!
                1. Akim
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 13: 08
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Many machines are made at our enterprises !!

                  I don’t know about the mortar, otherwise the MLRS at Kamaz were made in Kazakhstan. Maybe the Chinese MLRS did with you. I saw a photograph of Aliyev next to him at some enterprise.
            2. +3
              18 January 2013 13: 38
              Quote: Yarbay
              and there is no Kazakh !!

              MLRS you are made and her name is Lynx.
              http://www.military-today.com/artillery/azerbaijan_lynx.htm
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                18 January 2013 13: 52
                Quote: marshes
                MLRS you are made and her name is Lynx.

                I did not want to offend the Kazakhs, but I would know for sure if these weapons were delivered from Kazakhstan !!
                For me, no matter who produces, the main thing is to be of high quality and superior to enemy weapons!
                Thanks for the link!
      2. 416sd
        +3
        18 January 2013 11: 05
        What are you talking about?
        read at least studies are not the subject of arms imports by Azerbaijan.
        SOME of Israel is being modernized, but the main supplier is the Russian Federation and Belarus.
      3. 416sd
        0
        19 January 2013 11: 43
        Alibek answered already
  10. +3
    18 January 2013 10: 00
    Well, that's just it. Balance forces. Throw weapons to the Armenians, let them fight, if you really want to.
  11. Yarbay
    +2
    18 January 2013 10: 00
    ** Unfortunately, at present Russia does not have truly effective levers of influence on Baku’s policy. ***-who's guilty???
    and Russia has a big leverage - this is the Karabakh conflict !!

    *** It is necessary to take into account that the Azerbaijani community in Russia is very significant, well-knit, has a powerful administrative and corruption resource, which cannot but cause concern. ***- It’s necessary to plant criminals or if you can’t do it, then send it to us !!
    here they will either be like silk or will sit for a long time where they should!

    ** Obviously, it can be used in the subversive struggle against Russia. **is the opinion of an amateur unfamiliar with the real situation or a provocateur !!
    Everything can be used with precision!
    1. 0
      18 January 2013 10: 39
      This is the only and correct (my opinion) from all that was said earlier.
    2. +4
      18 January 2013 10: 45
      Yarbay - this post is my thoughts on the situation. Do not accept at your own expense!
      I have noticed among Azerbaijanis there are often, let’s say, hatred-thinking moods regarding the war with Armenia. It is clear not with any Karabakh republic, but with Armenia.
      Therefore, I tell my acquaintances Azerbaijanis. The more actively you talk about a possible war and buy weapons. The more actively the Armenians are digging trenches on the other side, and getting ready. There were three lines of trenches now ten.
      If the war takes place it will not be a walk for the Azerbaijani army.
      It's my opinion. I can also say I have good friends among both those and others. He visited both Armenia and Azerbaijan. All this is bitter of course.
      1. Yarbay
        -1
        18 January 2013 11: 04
        Quote: Nagaibak
        I have noticed among Azerbaijanis there are often, let’s say, hatred-thinking moods regarding the war with Armenia. It is clear not with any Karabakh republic, but with Armenia.


        I do not agree, there is simply a desire for this war, for the liberation of the motherland!
        Quote: Nagaibak
        Therefore, I tell my acquaintances Azerbaijanis. The more actively you talk about a possible war and buy weapons. The more actively the Armenians are digging trenches on the other side, and getting ready. There were three lines of trenches now ten.

        You are saying everything right to your friends, but those who by type of service should know about the quantity and quality of SDs, I assure you, they know!
        I know perfectly the mentality of the enemy and I believe in victory without doubt !!
        Quote: Nagaibak
        If the war takes place it will not be a walk for the Azerbaijani army.

        And we have never treated this as a walk, it’s some of the local users who for some reason think that we are hoping for an easy walk !!
        I can say for sure while I served, I saw a serious attitude to this on the part of the command and personnel of the units!
        Quote: Nagaibak
        I can also say I have good friends among both those and others. He visited both Armenia and Azerbaijan. All this is bitter of course.

        it is normal and speaks only in your favor as a person!
      2. 416sd
        0
        18 January 2013 11: 17
        Nagaybak ... Cape-inspiring moods are just the same on the other side ... They have apparently been stoned so far in 1994. We also have such sentiments, but not very. because we understand that we will advance, we will advance into the mountains, there will be losses, possibly heavy losses. But what I’ll write now will be very cruel (it’s easy to write this while sitting at the office at the clave), but this is the cruel truth: THE MORE THE LOSS WILL BE BETTER! AND IF Woe AS IN 1941 WILL ENTER AN EACH HOUSE, EVERY FAMILY, THEN AND AFTER 100 YEARS THIS PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER THE PRICE OF A FIFTH OF A FAMILY LAND ...

        We know the strengths and weaknesses of the enemy.

        Strengths of Armenia:
        1. Legally, this is our land. But in fact - they are sitting atm. In case of war, they will defend their mothers, sisters, their families, their homes. The youngest Azerbaijani soldier to whom Karabakh saw only optics from a trench from 18-19 years old, for him this house is ideologically, but not in fact;
        2. Purely military-strategic and military-tactical moments (mountains, heights, reinforced concrete fortifications);
        3. External support which, in a certain situation, may take place in Armenia
        4. The moral and psychological factor - the spirit of the winner among the Armenians ...

        Weak sides:
        1. Military-technical inferior;
        2. Demographically inferior;
        3. Economically inferior;

        The first three factors confound the Armenians. On the one hand, they are not interested in a wear and tear war. They will prosrut and seriously. On the other hand, a short and lightning-fast operation is also unprofitable for them if they happen at the right time and very convenient for Azerbaijan. Further

        4. The moral and psychological factor - the inferiority complex of Azerbaijanis from the defeat of 1994, resentment, anger, the image of the enemy, the memory of Khojaly (ensign Mubariz Ibragimov two years ago showed what it costs one Azerbaijani soldier if it is well handled, ONE, alone); In June, during the aggravation of the situation at the front, I saw with my own eyes a crowd of young people at the Yasamal RVC in Baku.
        5. External support which, in a certain situation, may take place in Azerbaijan.
        6. Willingness to lose. Armenians are very sensitive to casualties, we are not. In this regard, the Azerbaijani army in some ways resembles the Red Army.
        1. +3
          18 January 2013 11: 50
          You again forgot Russia, which will fight on the side of Armenia in 100%.
          1. kNow
            +2
            18 January 2013 11: 53
            Quote: 416sd
            3. External support which, in a certain situation, may take place in Armenia
            1. +2
              18 January 2013 12: 05
              Don’t find too much support? And as for export weapons, do not forget, sometimes it is not clear how it breaks down. So, rely on Russian weapons, I would not, you never know what.
              1. 416sd
                +2
                18 January 2013 12: 10
                Too weighty ...
                Therefore, we have been sitting for 20 years ... We are waiting ... Everything has its own time ... Do not wash it so much ....
                Anyway...
          2. 416sd
            +2
            18 January 2013 12: 10
            I didn’t forget to read it again ...
            More attentively ...
            1. -1
              18 January 2013 12: 16
              Want to expand your territory? You have Turkey, events in Syria, if they are in the direction of Assad, they will split Turkey, since the Kurds will take their place there. Eat well, since the Turks and I have already fought 10 times, that's enough, the NATO bloc hardly needs an ally that is falling apart, but Nagorno-Karabakh will become the grave of Azerbaijan 100%.
              1. 416sd
                +4
                18 January 2013 12: 21
                We do not want to expand the territory. We want our territory. By the way, the state of which you are a citizen officially recognizes him as part of the territory of Azerbaijan. Like all other states of the world. We are not afraid of graves; we buried both our own and others'.
                1. +1
                  18 January 2013 12: 28
                  We have already had 20 years of trouble in the country, which has not abated. Over the years, they have recognized everything that is possible and impossible, so it's not worth referring to it.
                  1. 416sd
                    +2
                    18 January 2013 12: 36
                    What kind of poetic argument? Or maybe the turmoil in the Caucasus will be even worse as soon as you stake on separatism and get "the same old man in the same place"? Do not just take these words personally at your own expense as it just happened and accuse of an insult.

                    What about other countries? Troubles everywhere?

                    But Armenia does not recognize why? Is it really difficult to understand that immediately after we recognize the independence of Karabakh, the second step will be its connection with Armenia.

                    In Soviet times, too, was trouble?
                  2. 0
                    18 January 2013 12: 41
                    Chito we have trouble?
          3. tm70-71
            0
            18 January 2013 12: 48
            Russia will not fight on the side of the NKR-100%. Russia recognized a single territory of Azerbaijan together with the territory of the NKR. And what about our brothers from Armenia? I would like to read their opinion. I have never seen them here.
        2. +1
          19 January 2013 01: 39
          "In this regard, the Azerbaijani army in some way resembles the Red Army." - this is not the best feature of the Red Army. A soldier, especially a well-trained one, must be protected, otherwise you can easily find yourself in the position of the Japanese in World War II, when there were fighters, and there was no one to fly.
        3. aray
          -1
          20 January 2013 13: 47
          Quote: 416sd
          Military-technical inferior;

          Where does the data come from?
          Quote: 416sd
          5. External support which, in a certain situation, may take place in Azerbaijan.

          Do you count on Turkey and Mujahid again? No, I don’t think you’ve already thrown them 90s once, they remember. By the way, Chechens also.)
          Quote: 416sd
          . Willingness to lose. Armenians are very sensitive to casualties, we are not. In this regard, the Azerbaijani army in some ways resembles the Red Army.

          http://voskanapat.info/?p=15 Знаем,что вы чувствительны.По этому и закопали тысячами ваших бульдозером...
          Oh yeah, I forgot. It wasn’t YOURs, it was Lezgins and Tols. Here are their losses, you really are not sensitive.

          As for Khojaly.
          Do you believe that? Will you prepare to answer my questions?
          1. 416sd
            0
            20 January 2013 23: 18
            If you read this message, then user 416 sd has already answered your questions about Khojaly (see above) laughing
    3. +2
      18 January 2013 15: 06
      Dear Yarbai.
      So a wave of articles about the "betrayal" of the former Soviet republics has reached your homeland. The series was opened with an article about my country - Uzbekistan. There were many critics in the fdres of Uzbekistan, you yourself probably remember. But this article brings forward more serious "accusations" - open hostility and a military threat to the Russian Federation are incriminated to Azerbaijan. If you remember, even loyal Kazakhstan got it for its transition to the Latin alphabet. And most importantly, remember, what comments were, "beys, beks, down with migrant workers, Russian shepherd", etc. It seems to me that the main urge of these articles is to develop the so-called great-power patriotism. Patriotism is a good thing, but only as long as patriotism does not turn into chauvinism. And there, and the policy of double standards is not far. This is how the United States climbs into the internal affairs of other states and imposes its own rules, so the United States is scoundrels and scoundrels, and as the former allies begin to bend their foreign policy line, they immediately start talking about betrayal and that the Russian Federation should establish order. Of course, right now, I'll start to remember what Russia did for all the former Soviet Union, about guest workers. But such arguments are special cases, and I'm talking about the big picture.
      1. Yarbay
        -1
        18 January 2013 15: 33
        Quote: bazilio
        So a wave of articles about the "betrayal" of the former Soviet republics has reached your homeland. The series was opened with an article about my country - Uzbekistan
        Hi Basilio!
        it's not the first time!
        One thing pleases me, before everything slipped into insults, now I see more the desire to know the position of the other side, but not from the side of the author, but the commenting comrades!
        Quote: bazilio
        It seems to me that the main urge of such articles is to develop the so-called great-power patriotism.

        I would think so too if I didn’t know Mr. Smirnov as a person, he is a person of high decency !!
        The fact is that we ourselves are to blame, those who write and submit their publications are published!
        and so here people of different views write comments, I mean on the site!
        Quote: bazilio
        This is how the United States creeps into the internal affairs of other states and imposes its own rules, so the United States is scoundrels and villains, and as the former allies begin to bend their foreign policy line, they immediately begin to talk about betrayal and that Russia should put things in order.

        here I completely agree !!
        The USA is generally for many in principle and acts on me like a red rag on a bull!
        But double standards in the performance of the United States are terrible, but in the performance of Russia it is normal according to some users, and I’m sure wrong!
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 16: 37
          Quote: Yarbay
          I would think so too if I didn’t know Mr. Smirnov as a person, he is a person of high decency !!


          I apologize. I did not immediately pay attention to the author. According to the signature, the article was written by Alexander Samsonov. And the remaining essays were written by a certain Volodin Alexey. Just the articles of the last author are sometimes full of insults.

          Quote: Yarbay
          One thing pleases me, before everything slipped into insults, now I see more the desire to know the position of the other side, but not from the side of the author, but the commenting comrades!


          Yes, you're right here. But all the same, many commentators sin with short hasty and aggressive conclusions like "the situation will repeat on 08.08.08, there are a lot of ambition and show-off," In my opinion, such comments are a manifestation of the surface and unwillingness to delve into the essence of the matter. I believe that to judge who is right in a dispute, who is wrong, you need to find out the opinions of both parties, study the facts and only then draw conclusions.

          Quote: Yarbay
          But double standards in the performance of the United States are terrible, but in the performance of Russia it is normal according to some users, and I’m sure wrong!

          I would say easier if you reproach someone in something, do not do it yourself. if you do the same yourself, do not blame others for such acts))
          1. Yarbay
            -1
            18 January 2013 16: 53
            Quote: bazilio
            I apologize. I did not immediately pay attention to the author. According to the signature, the article was written by Alexander Samsonov. And the remaining essays were written by a certain Volodin Alexey. Just the articles of the last author are sometimes full of insults.

            I meant the site administrator, not the authors !!
            After all, the admin gives the green light to the publication!

            otherwise I agree with you!
        2. +3
          18 January 2013 16: 39
          Quote: Yarbay
          But double standards in the performance of the United States are terrible, but in the performance of Russia it is normal according to some users, and I’m sure wrong!

          Hi Alibek hi Did you hear that like is treated like that? If in the West a double standard has become the basis of politics, then we must respond in the same places where it will be more painful
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            18 January 2013 16: 56
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Did you hear that like is treated like that?

            I heard Ruslan!
            It’s just visible I incorrectly expressed the thought!
            I meant that people are writing comments, if it concerns the bad deeds of the United States, take heart out, and if Russia does, then that's great!
            1. +3
              18 January 2013 17: 04
              Well, actually this is normal on this site request Here's an example: if my son-in-law and I are going around the women, then this is the situation, but if he is without me then it’s .... wassat
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                18 January 2013 17: 22
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Here's an example: if my son-in-law and I are going around the women, then this is the situation, but if he is without me then it’s ....

                super example))))))))) I agree))) son-in-law should be sensitive))))))
            2. 0
              19 January 2013 01: 55
              So this is the case in any country, the difference is that the United States is climbing all over the world, and Russia wants to preserve itself, to the maximum not to have frankly creating the problems of the elites in the states bordering it.
      2. 0
        19 January 2013 01: 49
        Basilio, the negative attitude towards the republics of Central Asia grew due to the fact that at the turn of the 80s and 90s, the local elites suddenly "awakened nationally" and began a "revival of self-consciousness" on the wave of Russophobia. I don't know how it was in Azerbaijan then. And in Uzbekistan it was in many ways exactly like that. All this got out at the everyday level, very strongly and Russians began to leave there in droves. And now there is a complete ooze and the inhabitants of these countries go to Russia, create diasporas and begin to demand rights for themselves - hence the negative attitude towards them. I am not against these peoples, but I do not want Moscow, St. Petersburg and other cities to build up dozens of mosques and turn into Baku, Tashkent or Dushanbe. This is just a psychological rollback, in memory of perestroika Russophobia.
        1. +1
          21 January 2013 09: 53
          Dear Mairos

          Quote: Mairos
          due to the fact that at the turn of the 80s and 90s, the local elites suddenly "awakened nationally" and began a "revival of self-consciousness" on the wave of Russophobia

          But do not you think that this is the right of any people to self-determination. Each state has the right to independently choose its foreign policy vector.


          Quote: Mairos
          And in Uzbekistan it was in many ways just that. All this came out at the household level, very strongly, and the Russians began to leave from there in droves.
  12. +10
    18 January 2013 10: 02
    Recently rode a taxi since my birthday. Well, by degrees, of course. The taxi driver is Azerbaijani. We started talking. I told him, they say, why are you all climbing on the Armenians? Is it really impossible to coexist normally? I liked his answer: "Fucking .... we have enough and they have enough. And the people don't need war for .." But who will ask him (the people).
  13. +5
    18 January 2013 10: 04
    Azerbaijan is already waging a war against Russia, it is not noticeable, but according to the results it is more effective than usual. YES, I'm talking about the drug trade, where **** are wholesalers and firmly hold this "business". Not to mention the occupation of the markets. Has anyone seen the Azeri taxation? I have never, but non-payment of taxes by non-residents is a hidden economic war.
    1. 416sd
      +1
      18 January 2013 10: 09
      Listen, one Agalarov and Crocus pays as many taxes as all of us discussing here have not paid, and will not pay, including ourselves and our relatives for ten of our lives ...
      1. +5
        18 January 2013 10: 19
        Quote: 416sd
        Listen, one Agalarov and Crocus pays as many taxes as

        But how did he earn them?
        1. 416sd
          0
          18 January 2013 10: 28
          Will you begin to prove that he cut heads and put youngsters on a needle? I am sure he is not the pope or the holy imam, but he earned no more unfair than half the Slavic faces of the oligarchs that you see on TV every day, do not engage in prankishness .... The author praises Armenia - how many Russians are left in Armenia and Georgia? How many Russian schools, Russian universities, Russian bookstores, Russian NGOs are in Armenia and Georgia ... Now come and compare with Azerbaijan. The problem is that most often pro-Armenian writers write about Azerbaijan in Russia.

          Otherwise, read you - so in the Russian tax office there are only Armenians, you directly enter and Armenians in the tax line, and in front of the tax queue there are only Armenians, and all the Armenians run to the tax office, crushing each other, and before the tax fight who enters first, the Armenians are bluffing "I first "," no, I'm the first "... hmmm ...
          1. +6
            18 January 2013 10: 51
            Quote: 416sd
            , do not engage in trickery ..

            \ This is what I’m doing, you yourself cited him as an example, I won’t think of Abramovich and similar ones.
            Quote: 416sd
            are Russians in Armenia and Georgia?

            It’s clear with Armenia. But what about Georgia?
            Quote: 416sd
            The problem is that most often pro-Armenian writers write about Azerbaijan in Russia.

            I would be surprised if this article was written by an Azerbaijani.
            Quote: 416sd
            And then you read - so in the Russian tax some Armenians,

            I was in the Khabarovsk Territory, and so there the Azerbaijanis oversee the entire alcohol business and do not pay taxes, there is drugs under them in Primorye, but this is not a reason to spit in all Azerbaijanis. There are people from both sides.
            1. 416sd
              0
              18 January 2013 11: 01
              Well, what can I say ... You kind of fixed it yourself ...

              And the animals are there and there ...

              I, too, in Moscow, when I want to sometimes want to shave, put on my boots and go to ... "fellow countrymen" (I can't turn my tongue) ...

              Do you know why the Armenians in Russia are silk and fluffy and ours are inferior to them in their image? because everything is being brought down to you from Armenia - annually 70 thousand people are dumped according to official statistics. And garbage is coming from us to you.

              If you think that our behavior in the Russian Federation does not care for us, then this is a mistake. This people gave the world the first opera in the Muslim world, the first suffrage for women in the Muslim world, this people created, wrote, painted, composed, sang, and I am ashamed that Uzeyir Hajibeyov’s grandchildren behave today in the Russian markets as a captain ...

              Once again - garbage is coming to you. A normal person from Baku to Hansi-Zazhopinsk will not leave!
              1. +4
                18 January 2013 11: 14
                Quote: 416sd
                Once again - garbage is coming to you. A normal person from Baku to Hansi-Zazhopinsk will not leave!

                Maybe everyone will deport the truth, otherwise I have accumulated a lot of garbage in Hansa-Zazhopinsk.
                Here is just one problem, I personally know a lot of Azerbaijanis and many of them are very decent people and none of them call my city Khanty -Zazhopinsky, so as for garbage, go to the mirror
                1. 416sd
                  0
                  18 January 2013 11: 31
                  I am very sorry that you take everything literally ... You perfectly understood what I wrote about, you are simply configured for confrontation. Your right.

                  As for the mirror, I will not answer you ...
                  1. +4
                    18 January 2013 11: 36
                    Quote: 416sd
                    I'm sorry that you take everything literally ..

                    I’ll say at the Azerbaijani site Bakuzhopinsk, how do you perceive it? We came to Russian sayit so have respect, I don’t even allow myself to offend others. Here is such a concept of communication culture.
                    1. 416sd
                      -1
                      18 January 2013 11: 45
                      I already answered you ... I will not explain myself again.

                      Regarding the insult: Behind Aizerbaidjan ... “I, too, could regard this as an insult.”

                      Again, if this does not suit you, I can apologize for my words that you so literally understood. It's all.
                      1. +1
                        18 January 2013 13: 07
                        Quote: 416sd
                        Behind Aizerbaidjan ... -

                        There is a typo or a grammatical error, and in your case there are intentional acts. I wrote to you in a personal email, you will continue in the same vein and you will receive a warning.
                      2. Yarbay
                        0
                        18 January 2013 13: 28
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        There is a typo or a grammatical error, and in your case there are intentional acts.

                        Sanya, I don’t think that Heydar wanted to offend you, he is a person well-known for his exemplary manners and politeness!
                        I think you misunderstood each other!
                        Knowing from his publications that he was a competent open person, I think that his intentions were good!
                      3. +3
                        18 January 2013 13: 39
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        exemplary good manners and courtesy!

                        I reminded him of this in a personal, but talked to me. Like a serf. So I'm sorry Alibek, but he has big problems with the culture of communication.
                      4. +1
                        18 January 2013 14: 04

                        Yes, everything is already, sent him to the black sheet, maoshal pancake in uniform. Tries to "lay down softly and lay down hard." Builds friendliness and between words eldyk. And he threatens with a personal warning, you might think I will not say my word to him in response, being afraid minus stripes. Scarecrow.

                        Do not bend the wand. Warnings are put on the fact of violations of the rules of the site as I told you.
                      5. 416sd
                        -5
                        18 January 2013 13: 57
                        Yes, everything is already, sent him to the black sheet, maoshal pancake in uniform. Tries to "lay down softly and lay down hard." Builds friendliness and between words eldyk. And he threatens with a personal warning, you might think I will not say my word to him in response, being afraid minus stripes. Scarecrow.
              2. +3
                18 January 2013 11: 14
                No need to fantasize .......... they are going to earn money .....
                Do you know why we have Jews whose sea you can’t lure into Israel? Yes, because all Jews are there ....... it doesn’t work out how to get a musician-humorist in Russia ........ someone needs to twist the nuts ...... so with your brother .. ...... trading in tomatoes and assault is easier than drilling wells on the Caspian shelf ..

                Yes ....., and also .... all my acquaintances Azerbaijanis trade in the market, are engaged in spare parts for cars, keep cafes ... (or somewhere nearby)
                All my acquaintances Armenians work in community-building-repair teams. Well on the edge, taxing .....
                So why would this be?
                1. 416sd
                  -1
                  18 January 2013 11: 36
                  I’m talking about the fact that the presence of Armenians in culture, on TV, in short, is not more noticeable in the markets ... Just the same, I don’t fantasize and know what I'm writing about, and when I praise and when I criticize.
                  1. +4
                    18 January 2013 13: 49
                    No offense, only .... did not want to offend anyone ........
                    When I studied at KVVMU (82-87), we had all-Kyrgyz, Kazakhs, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Latvians, and Lithuanians (the so-called National Cadres) in our company ........... never had questions about nationality, together, as they say, they drank vodka and went to the sea .......... Whatever they say now, but in our country (USSR, RF) these were the best times in the last 100 years!
                    1. 416sd
                      +3
                      18 January 2013 14: 02
                      In October 1941, in one artillery battery of the 317th Baku Rifle Division, the Germans stood to death near Rostov. The commander was the Armenian Oganov (received the GSS). The drug was very international; I counted four Azerbaijanis in the HBS Memorial there. and died together, and carried out of the battlefield, etc.

                      But that was a different country.

                      If you are interested in the Oganov battery, go to my blog www.yoldash.net and in the "search" field type "Oganov battery", do not consider it an advertisement for the blog.
                    2. Yarbay
                      +1
                      18 January 2013 14: 03
                      Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
                      Whatever they say now, but in our country (USSR, RF) these were the best times in the last 100 years!

                      I agree, but to Gorbachev!
              3. +1
                18 January 2013 18: 00
                Quote: 416sd
                Once again - garbage is coming to you. A normal person from Baku to Hansi-Zazhopinsk will not leave!

                wowu fellow countryman you also watch your expressions what kind of categorical statement ONE SHOCK ????? I live in St. Petersburg my relatives have been here for a long time and 90 percent of these people didn’t work at all in trade. If you mean a lot of scum this is one thing, but a categorical statement it is different.
              4. -1
                21 January 2013 10: 04
                We know your "famous" writer - Bagirov.
            2. Yarbay
              +2
              18 January 2013 11: 19
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              and so the whole alcohol business is overseen by Azerbaijanis and they don’t pay taxes; in Primorye, drugs under them



              Again, the obvious question is, who allows it to them ??
              Why do we all know about this, and the law enforcement agencies do not even itch !?
              1. +1
                18 January 2013 11: 33
                Quote: Yarbay
                Why do we all know about this, and the law enforcement agencies do not even itch !?

                Yes, they plant it on the sly, but there it is clanish and it’s not so easy to prove it.
                1. 0
                  18 January 2013 18: 08
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yes, they plant it on the sly, but there is clannishness and it’s not so easy to prove collecting

                  Yes, the criminal’s nationality is not the most important thing. The system in the Russian Federation is such. There is no targeted policy to etch the Russian people with a certain ethnic group. The trick is that there is a criminal world where you can do a lot and there are different nations, the representatives of which nation will be the ones who control them. unified, and the participants can change as you please. Russian gangsters in large corporations steal billions in the posts, I steal organized crime, drugs, protection weapons, etc. Just the actions of the organized crime are in full view, and the more global thefts of beautifully dressed Russian officials are not very hurt, as you know, but ...
                  therefore, it’s stupid to say that Azerbaijanis are leaders in drug trafficking and they specifically poison, they poison everyone just in the Russian Federation. 80% of the environment is a bit different and they eat more drugs.
                  For them, the main thing is grandmothers.
                  1. 320sd
                    +2
                    18 January 2013 18: 35
                    As of January 1, 1979, 476 thousand Russians (7,9% of the republic’s population) lived in Azerbaijan, and in 22 regions of the republic there were more than seven dozen Russian settlements. According to the 1989 census, 392 thousand (5,6%) lived in Azerbaijan in Russia, in 1999 - 176 thousand. And the last census of 2009 showed that only 119 thousand people remained in Azerbaijan in Russia, or just over 1% of the republic’s population, of which, according to the data presented, only 99 thousand people speak Russian ... Azerbaijanis now make up 91,6% of the population. Here is such exponential arithmetic.

                    And now the inverse numbers. From 1959 to 1989 the number of Azerbaijanis in Russia grew 4,7 times. And then ...

                    In order not to be biased, we give the floor to the profiled Russian site demoscope.ru, which deals with demographic problems:

                    “The worst thing happened in the 90s. In 1989, the entire population of Azerbaijan between the ages of 15 and 60 amounted to about 4,2 million people, including 2 million men. From 1989 to 2002, the population of this country grew by another million, that is, its adult population reached 4,8 million, and the number of adult men aged 15 to 60 exceeded 2,3 million. This is a huge army, thanks to which Azerbaijan’s demographic imperialism has got the opportunity to start mass actions to change the ethnic composition of the Russian population.

                    Of course, they started from the Moscow region. The population of Moscow and the Moscow region, as you know, is a little more than 15 million people. In 1989, there were not even 25 thousand Azerbaijanis, but now there are already 2 million, or more than 13% of the total population. But they are not only in Moscow. As the Izvestia newspaper recently reported, “in the Stavropol Territory today the number of [Azerbaijani] diaspora is about 50-60 thousand people, in the Volgograd region - up to 80 thousand, in the Tyumen region - more than 100 thousand, in the Sverdlovsk region - at least 50 thousand , in Ulyanovsk - 35 thousand ... As for the remaining regions of Russia - Azerbaijanis are more or less represented in almost all large regions. This is the Novosibirsk region, and the Voronezh, Bryansk, Belgorod, Ryazan, Lipetsk, Penza, Irkutsk regions, and the Khabarovsk Territory, and Magadan Region ... ". (Russia is our second homeland. Izvestia, March 28, 2002). That is, at least two and a half millionaires are already being recruited. And Azerbaijanis have not yet exhausted their full potential.

                    That is, the Demoscope has the impression that the entire adult population of Azerbaijan, leaving President Aliyev on duty, rushed to Russia, and soon they would have no one left there except the president and his administration, and everyone else would be here.

                    So what is the State Duma and its committee on international affairs thinking about? While they are engaged there in the implementation of the Treaty with the United States of America on the further reduction of strategic offensive arms, we will complete the complete Azerbaijanization of Russia here. By 2016, the population of Russia may be reduced to 134 million people, and the number of Azerbaijanis in the post-Soviet open spaces may even grow to 10 million. And if all of them live in Russia, then their share in the country's population can grow to almost 7 percent. So, you see, Russia will turn into a colony of Azerbaijan. Such are international affairs. ”
              2. 416sd
                -1
                18 January 2013 12: 17
                Yarbay, someone must always be to blame ... It seems that the Azerbaijanis and the USSR ruined, and put on a needle, and whores did the rest ... In short, "Hit the Jews, save Russia" ... From above, in every word a catch, in every expression a hidden insult, somewhere explicit, but like the very same hello-answer, they start about "culture" and "rules" right away. Russia has no greater enemies today than the Russians themselves. They are not guilty, they brought them. They occupied it in 1991 and here is the result. Two or three normal people remained in the CIS to Russia, who treat them well as enemies to themselves, and all the chicks will be ...
                1. 320sd
                  +6
                  18 January 2013 18: 37
                  However, the site demoscope.ru, with all its professionalism, overlooks one very important thing: the Transcaucasian Turks, by virtue of their mentality and unlike labor migrants from other CIS countries, go to Russia not to work in factories, to build at home and raising agriculture. The bulk of the arrivals settle in numerous Russian markets and bazaars, where, using the unscrupulousness of local officials and law enforcement officers, using diasporal ties and direct bribery, it is easy to get rid of competition in the face of a local agricultural producer, who, as a rule, remains the ordered route to the Russian counters.

                  The second direction of the "labor" activity of the Azerbaijani diaspora is the import into Russia and the distribution on its territory of narcotic drugs, including the so-called "hard" drugs.

                  And how this entrenched public behaves provocatively in everyday life in relation to the local population, is known to all.

                  As you know, for areas of activity similar to those discussed above, the Transcaucasian Turks need a reliable "roof". And the issue of gaining such a “roof” is also easily solved by the Azerbaijani diaspora with the help of financial injections. And if earlier smart visitors willingly took for the maintenance of some not too principled representatives of the Russian law enforcement agencies, recently this issue has been resolved in a slightly different vein. Namely, by the active introduction of their compatriots into the Russian law enforcement system. Here, for example, looked like a list of freshmen accepted at the St. Petersburg University of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in 2009.

                  I ask you to pay special attention: these persons were enrolled in a Russian police university not as a result of successful passing of state exams, but according to a recommendation (!) Based on the results of entrance examinations. That is, based on a commercial relationship with a recommender. Who, why, and for what reason gave such a recommendation for crediting precisely the numerous "ogly" is a rhetorical question. And this is only one group of only one Russian university.

                  So it turns out that these BARGERS in uniform will catch Azerbaijani drug dealers and check Azerbaijani dealers in Russian markets.

                  Let's say more: in some regions of Russia ALREADY there are law enforcement units, more than half consisting of representatives of the Azerbaijani diaspora!
          2. +1
            18 January 2013 11: 19
            And where do the Armenians or Martians, when it comes specifically to the Azerbaijanis. So say we don’t pay because ......
          3. sarvelon
            0
            20 January 2013 02: 32
            416sd,
            How many Russian schools in Armenia and Georgia
            - enough for Russian and Armenian children to study there
            1. 416sd
              0
              20 January 2013 12: 39
              Is it such an attempt to answer or justify? Or specific noodles? Show how many Russian children are studying in Armenia ... This time: currently 15 thousand Russians live in Armenia ... 15 thousand !! Compare with Azerbaijan there 10 (!!) times more ... Moreover, the number of official statistics indicated in Armenia, I am more than sure, includes personnel and families of military personnel of the military bases of the RF Armed Forces in Armenia ...

              Second: what has happened in recent years with the Russian sector in Armenia? Or people suckers, or people do not read? No, I understand, many here live the tales of Uncle Ashot, but there are facts: education in Russian in Armenia was introduced in December 2010 (!!) only. Under the serious pressure of the Russian Federation (specifically after multi-series negotiations with Rossotrudnichestvo). Compare the situation with Azerbaijan - Russian schools, Russian sectors did not close even in the coldest years, while up to now 30% of schools in the country are Russian-speaking. And we do this not like you for the sake of reverence to the north, but because we need it ourselves! We have not closed a single Russian school in 20 years.

              In Armenia, there is only one state Russian school - in the Molokan village of Violetovo. In Yerevan, several schools have Russian classes, there is also a private “Slavic school”, but this is unlikely to save the situation. The Russian language is gradually coming out of use, only the older generation who grew up in this language speaks it more or less tolerably. The younger generation practically does not speak Russian, and who owns it is shy to speak.

              http://rulit.org/read/908
        2. 0
          18 January 2013 10: 29
          Quote: Alexander Romanov

          But how did he earn them?

          opening the first shoe and clothing stores, and then the market for spare parts for cars
          1. +3
            18 January 2013 10: 52
            Quote: ayyildiz
            opening the first shoe and clothing stores, and then the market for spare parts for cars

            Well, that’s all right, it was necessary to legalize incomes, that’s why they opened everything up.
        3. 416sd
          0
          18 January 2013 10: 31
          Otherwise, read you - so in the Russian tax office there are only Armenians, you directly enter and Armenians in the tax line, and in front of the tax queue there are only Armenians, and all the Armenians run to the tax office, crushing each other, and before the tax fight who enters first, the Armenians are bluffing "I first "," no, I'm the first "... hmmm ...
        4. +1
          18 January 2013 12: 12
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          But how did he earn them?


          Here is the imph Sanya! hi


          Aras Iskenderovich Agalarov


          He was born on November 8 of the 1955 of the year in Baku, where he lived until the 1980 of the year.
          In 1977 he graduated from the Baku Polytechnic Institute with a degree in computer engineer.
          From 1977 to 1983, he worked for a year at a research institute in Baku, then at the Baku city committee of trade unions.
          From 1983 to 1987, he was a student of the Higher School of the Trade Union Movement of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions in Moscow.

          Doctor of Economic Sciences.

          From 1988 to 1990, he worked at the AUCCTU Scientific Center as a junior research fellow.

          In 1987 he organized the trade and purchasing cooperative "Shafran", which later grew into the GC "Crocus International". Aras Agalarov earned his start-up capital in the late 1980s by trading computers. In 1990, together with a US partner, he founded Comtek, which has become one of the leading organizers of international exhibitions in Moscow (for example, Comtek, Netcom and World Food).

          The Crocus group of companies was founded in 1989. In 1991, Agalarov opened the first store of the Crocus Moscow chain (luxury clothing and footwear), and five years later he tried to engage in construction (the residential "House of Agalarov" on Bolshaya Gruzinskaya Street).

          In 1994, to service the financial flows of the sprawling holding, Agalarov created the pocket Crocus Bank. Before the 1998 crisis, he managed to open the first hypermarket "Your House", and after that he sold his stake in Comtek to the English company ITE. The proceeds, together with borrowed funds (in 1999, Sberbank of Russia opened a credit line for Crocus company for $ 50 million) Aras Agalarov invested in the creation of Crocus City. Crocus International owns the retail chains Crocus Moscow, Skonti, Your House and the Crocus City shopping center. These enterprises are 100% owned by Aras Agalarov, with the exception of one of the shops "Your House", where he owns 50%.
          Aras Agalarov is a doctor of economic sciences.

          From 1992 to the present, he is the president of CJSC Crocus, head of the Krasnogorsk branch of Crocus City.

          Since 2002 of the year - President of the Union of Manufacturers and Importers.

          Vice-President of the All-Russian public organization of small and medium-sized businesses "OPORA RUSSIA".
          Vice President of Moscow International Business Association (MIBA).
          Member of the Presidium of the Independent Organization "Civil Society".

          Married, two children; son Emin and daughter Sheila.
          1. qazateci
            +2
            20 January 2013 23: 25
            It is very incorrect to count other people's money. Araz Agalarov, although Azerbaijani, but like many influential colleagues, he is a citizen of Russia.
      2. +2
        18 January 2013 10: 57
        Agalarov - an unsuccessful example is seen in the theft of budgetary funds allocated for the construction of APEC summit facilities. But why did they forget the famous Ismailov, doesn’t fit into the drawn picture?
        1. 0
          18 January 2013 11: 08
          Quote: Forest
          But why did they forget the famous Ismailov, doesn’t fit into the drawn picture?

          And Cherkizon only belonged to him?
          1. 0
            18 January 2013 11: 38
            ayyildizHow to make a profit Yes, how to pay taxes NO.
            1. 0
              18 January 2013 13: 54
              Quote: Forest
              How to make a profit Yes, how to pay taxes NO


              In fairness, I must admit, we all want less tax to pay!

              For large companies, much more attention from the tax authorities than for small entrepreneurs
              1. 0
                18 January 2013 15: 29
                Try not to pay extra 50 rubles. taxes like IP - tax will turn inside out. But he washed off abroad and the case is closed, everyone is happy, except decent people.
                1. Yarbay
                  -2
                  18 January 2013 15: 45
                  Quote: Forest
                  But he washed off abroad and the case is closed, everyone is happy, except decent people.


                  so who is to blame ????
                  USA, Azerbaijan, West ???
                  1. -1
                    18 January 2013 16: 34
                    Correct answer: "everyone except Ismailov, who does not pay taxes?" )))
                    1. Yarbay
                      +1
                      18 January 2013 16: 57
                      Quote: Forest

                      Correct answer: "everyone except Ismailov, who does not pay taxes?" )))

                      good answer))))))
                      1. +1
                        21 January 2013 08: 41
                        This is not an answer, but a joke)))
          2. +2
            18 January 2013 11: 41
            Quote: ayyildiz
            And Cherkizon only belonged to him?


            friendship Luzhkov
            1. 0
              18 January 2013 11: 57
              Luzhkov only had his own gesheft, the owner of Ismailov.
              1. +1
                18 January 2013 12: 01
                Quote: Forest
                Luzhkov only had his own gesheft, the owner of Ismailov.


                notice not small am
                1. -1
                  18 January 2013 12: 52
                  This is his "heavy burden")))
        2. Yarbay
          +2
          18 January 2013 11: 19
          Quote: Forest
          But why did they forget the famous Ismailov, doesn’t fit into the drawn picture?


          Because he is a Jew))
        3. kNow
          +3
          18 January 2013 11: 21
          Quote: Forest
          Agalarov - an unsuccessful example is seen in the theft of budgetary funds allocated for the construction of APEC summit facilities

          If not difficult - give a link, read. And then I thought - the only thing that doesn’t fall apart after APEC is its construction ....
          1. +1
            18 January 2013 12: 01
            "According to the inspectors, there are a lot of imperfections; most of all, the interior decoration is" lame "- from the cladding to the quality of installation of windows, electrical outlets, plumbing ... There was a case when one of the" inspectors "tried to press the fire button, in response - silence; it turned out that wires they are not connected to the "box"; in the building already populated by students, instead of a working alarm, there is a dummy on the wall. Inspectors admit: it happened that the acceptance committee with the participation of representatives of Crocus, FEFU and the Directorate recorded up to two thousand (!) violations in the building alone. " "Be that as it may, but the cheered public is waiting for the" continuation of the banquet "; citizens believe that, having warmed up on small" thefts "(93 million out of 689 billion mastered), having shot at the" sparrows ", the competent authorities will take on a more serious bird , which fluttered into the Forbes magazine's list of dollar billionaires in two years of building the "summit." http://news2.ru/story/368427/
    2. +1
      18 January 2013 10: 48
      But after all, this problem of corruption of us is our security forces and tax authorities. And from this the criminal activity of Azeris. Above the opponent has already spoken out about this. Do not dump everything in one heap.
      1. Yarbay
        0
        18 January 2013 11: 21
        Quote: evgenm55
        But this problem of corruption of us is our security forces and tax authorities. And from this the criminal activity of Azeris

        I fully support !!
      2. +2
        18 January 2013 12: 08
        This is not the venality of the "siloviki and tax officials"; it is not necessary to throw mud at everyone at once, this is a short-sighted domestic policy.
        1. Yarbay
          +1
          18 January 2013 12: 26
          Quote: Forest
          it is a short-sighted domestic policy.

          then even worse !!
          If not corruption, then who is stopping the trickster from collecting taxes or starting a case against the tax defender ??
          1. -1
            18 January 2013 12: 50
            I agree this is even worse.
    3. +1
      18 January 2013 10: 52
      Les "are wholesalers and hold this" business "firmly.
      We in Surgut mainly catch Tajiks and Uzbeks. Azerbaijanis happen, but few and rarely. In general, foods, fruits, vegetables - this is their area. They work in the oil industry: carriages, tractor drivers, oil production operators I know about 10. Armenians in the city are mainly selling, repairing shoes. Taxied and bombed in general all and sundry. Fur hats, strangely enough, I sell dagis, at least I know the Dargins. Laks are those dental technicians basically. Central Asia at construction sites.
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 11: 22
        Tajiks are retail drugs - "infantry".
    4. Anna
      0
      20 January 2013 18: 13
      Forest I agree with you
    5. Arinberry
      0
      21 January 2013 01: 38
      Dear Forest, this is on the topic of markets (I can’t insert it here)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=674m1DWbn5M&feature=player_embedded

      Dear Forest, this is on the topic of markets

      1. Stamp
        +2
        21 January 2013 04: 30
        Yes, the Caucasus always sat on the markets and fed on them, the only difference is that under the USSR they traded in Orange Mandarin, now they hold markets and there is a roof, respectively.
      2. -1
        21 January 2013 08: 42
        And in all regions.
      3. +1
        17 February 2013 21: 50
        Do Armenians lay good asphalt in Moscow?
  14. 416sd
    -2
    18 January 2013 10: 24
    My last year article will probably help in understanding what is written above. Read, consider this an answer to Samsonov’s article.

    MIATSUM - GEOPOLITICAL HERNIA
    http://www.1news.az/authors/120/20111121092336500.html

    ... After May 1994, Armenia was not able to provide the South Caucasus region with a single political and economic project that would have long-term synergies in the framework of the "geopolitics of small spaces." It was not possible to achieve international legitimization of territorial acquisitions, and in the social, economic and political sense, Nagorno-Karabakh turned into a “suitcase without a handle” for Armenia. Isolation of Armenia from the infrastructure of key regional and transnational projects continues. In the foreign policy sense, the country resembles a computer bot rather than an independent player ...

    ... In the military sense, the Armenian side managed to maintain a sense of parity until the mid-2000s. Azerbaijan did not yet feel the cash flow that went after the launch of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline and the Baku-Tbilisi-Erzurum gas pipeline. In addition, the political elite and the public of Armenia still had fresh memory of the recent “success”. Over the years, the population of Armenia began to show signs of capillary syndrome against the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. It’s enough to spend an hour reading the Armenian online forums. But by 2008, it became clear - Armenia was unable to create its own defense industry, which would be adequate to the status quo in the South Caucasus and set foreign policy goals. In today's sense of defense, Azerbaijan is not the same as in 1994, and not even the one it was in 2005. Within the framework of the offensive foreign policy declared by the leadership of Azerbaijan, pressure in this direction will only increase, and Armenia is not financially or conceptually ready for an arms race with Azerbaijan ...


  15. Krasnoyarsk
    -2
    18 January 2013 10: 53
    Let them kill each other, it should be up to us.
    1. 0
      18 January 2013 18: 12
      Quote: Krasnoyarets

      Let them kill each other, it should be up to us.

      Handsome, even if the leadership finally thought so. And we would have stayed with the Armenians with their great spirit, they really just focus their attention on their great spirit, but they are sitting on the CSTO reserve and, in addition, the Russian Federation sets up its bases and undertakes to protect them from neighbors (probably rather us from their great spirit))
      Left alone, we will shed a lot of blood, and it’s more profitable for you, the less blacks the better, what difference does it make to you)))
  16. 416sd
    +4
    18 January 2013 10: 55
    The question is what is called "lemon" ...

    WHO SOLD AZERBAIJAN THE S-300 "FAVORIT" AIR SYSTEM THAT SO IRRITES IRAN TODAY? AND WHICH IS NOT SOLD TO IRAN ...

    Defenders of Iran Mlyn ...
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      18 January 2013 11: 24
      Quote: 416sd

      The question is what is called "lemon" ...

      WHO SOLD AZERBAIJAN THE S-300 "FAVORIT" AIR SYSTEM THAT SO IRRITES IRAN TODAY? AND WHICH IS NOT SOLD TO IRAN ...

      Defenders of Iran Mlyn ...

      Very reasonable remark !!
      AND DIRECTLY AT THE APPLE))
  17. 0
    18 January 2013 11: 09
    Azerbaijan, of course, wants to return Nagorno-Karabakh, but it is obvious that Turkey will not get into an armed clash with Russia for the sake of Azerbaijan. Therefore, they will wait with Karabakh and not rock the boat or repeat the fate of Georgia.
    But grabbing a piece from Iran is already a more realistic goal.
    1. 416sd
      0
      18 January 2013 13: 05
      But grabbing a piece from Iran is already a more realistic goal.

      Share what you smoke in the morning ...?
    2. +2
      18 January 2013 18: 16
      Quote: Michael-rl
      Azerbaijan, of course, wants to return Nagorno-Karabakh, but it is obvious that Turkey will not get into an armed clash with Russia for the sake of Azerbaijan. Therefore, they will wait with Karabakh and not rock the boat or repeat the fate of Georgia.

      It depends on how exactly the Russian Federation will participate in this conflict as a direct intervention with Georgia and not Turkish intervention is a political death for the leadership of Turkey because Turkey really wanted to enter Karabakh during the war but was very weak and had a strong psychological effect on the image of the Soviet Union.
      Although Azerbaijan will not go to war until it receives a XNUMX% promise of neutrality of the Russian Federation, otherwise we would not be able to purchase the scale of the Russian Federation and we will not be comparable.
  18. SSR
    +2
    18 January 2013 11: 09
    Theater of the absurd .... Russia arms Azerbaijan and maintains a base in Armenia.
    An oil-rich state, having unleashed a war, can at once break a branch of Baku Tbilisi and further like a sickle of eggs.
    It blazes shortly and violently and painfully ... it won’t reach the global one because it is fraught with nuclear weapons
    IMHA.
    1. kNow
      +1
      18 January 2013 11: 32
      Quote from S.S.R.
      Blaze short and hard and hurt

      Does not blaze smile
      Azerbaijan is strong, but weak Armenia is supported by Russia. If it starts, Russia will come up. But he will think - because Turkey will fit. But Turkey will also think - Russia has nuclear weapons. Again, Russia will think - NATO is behind Turkey, here NATO will think over - but is war needed with Russia over Karabakh?
      As a result, everyone will remain with their own, because they think a lot, there is no time to fight :)
      There is a more likely option - after Syria, the United States brings Iran down, gives the North of Iran to Azerbaijan - and finally draws Azerbaijan into its sphere of influence. Azerbaijan is inferior to Karabakh of Armenia, happy Armenia immediately demands the withdrawal of the Russian military base and is being transplanted to American knees, since all that is possible has already been pumped out of Russia ...
      1. +2
        18 January 2013 12: 36
        after Syria, the US fells Iran, gives the North of Iran to Azerbaijan
        Og, and we are watching how the shelf is taken by the whole Caspian flotilla)))
        More likely, an agreement on Iran between Russia and the United States.
        we are passing the Iranian shelf and possibly Azerbaijan. There is nothing to answer to none of the others.
        And Russia in this region by the year 14 will have 5 ships with calibers? Do you think anyone has even a small chance? I think so and never will. Which, with their range of more than 2 thousand km, can strike without weaving.
        You see Such small countries as Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey are bargaining chips in the big game.
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          18 January 2013 13: 06
          Quote: leon-iv
          after Syria, the US fells Iran, gives the North of Iran to Azerbaijan


          And Azerbaijan refuses and completely destroys the plans of P Indos)))))))
          1. +2
            18 January 2013 13: 09
            And who is Azerbaijan?
            What does he mean in the international arena?
      2. +4
        18 January 2013 18: 46
        After Syria ....
        First, it’s too early to write off Syria and what will happen next - Allah knows him. If there are Russian bases in Armenia and Armenia is a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, this does not mean that, for example, France will not stand up for the Armenians.
      3. aray
        -2
        20 January 2013 14: 19
        Quote: kNow
        Azerbaijan is strong, but weak Armenia is supported by Russia. If it starts, Russia will come up. But he will think - because Turkey will fit. But Turkey will also think - Russia has nuclear weapons. Again, Russia will think - NATO is behind Turkey, here NATO will think over - but is war needed with Russia over Karabakh?
        As a result, everyone will remain with their own, because they think a lot, there is no time to fight :)
        There is a more likely option - after Syria, the United States brings Iran down, gives the North of Iran to Azerbaijan - and finally draws Azerbaijan into its sphere of influence. Azerbaijan is inferior to Karabakh of Armenia, happy Armenia immediately demands the withdrawal of the Russian military base and is being transplanted to American knees, since all that is possible has already been pumped out of Russia ...

        Bole of monstrous nonsense, I have not read laughing
        He understood what he wrote? Is it a fairy tale about Cinderella?
        1. kNow
          0
          21 January 2013 08: 36
          Quote: Aray
          Bole of monstrous nonsense, I have not read

          And you read a lot of nonsense in your life? laughing have a rest..
          Quote: Aray
          Is this a fairy tale about Cinderella?

          How did you guess? Hayastani Zolushkaya :)
    2. +2
      18 January 2013 11: 34
      Always if you take something - you need to give something. I am for the model - YOUR LAND BUT OUR TERRITORY. You want a flag - here is a flag for you. You want a monetary unit - here it is for you. Do you want your national football team like the Scots and Wales - here. If you want your own police and security forces, we are ready. If you want a demilitarized zone, we are for it. But Karabakh is an Azerbaijani TERRITORY ... And an Armenian LAND. It must be understood that neither we nor Armenia will fly into space and forever we will have to live side by side even after peace or war.
      I agree with both hands. Otherwise, we will have to oust everyone who has their own states: Belarusians, Little Russians, Chernorosses, Kazakhs, etc.
      1. Yarbay
        -3
        18 January 2013 11: 41
        Quote: Vasya
        . And the Armenian LAND

        in more detail, since when?
        1. 416sd
          0
          18 January 2013 12: 25
          I am about the legal model of Yarbai, Åland, Tyrol, etc. This expression is not to panic wink
          We have offered them and offer them. You know why they refuse and whether they refuse at all.
          Recently, even in the Philippines, a peace was concluded with the Muslim minority according to this model ...
          This is what is meant by "the highest degree of autonomy" ...

          P.S. South Tyrol, I mean.
          1. Yarbay
            0
            18 January 2013 12: 43
            Quote: 416sd

            I am about the legal model of Yarbai, Åland, Tyrol, etc. This expression is not to panic

            Yes, I do not panic)))))
            Then your opponent is trying to reinterpret the meaning of your words!
            this is clear from his comment !!
            1. 416sd
              0
              18 January 2013 12: 52
              This is his problem if the only thing he saw there is "Armenian land" feel
              Everyone understands what he is able to understand.

              To be honest, Alexander Romanov offended me more, although for some reason he decided that I offended him ... I really did not understand the position of the person - the name of the country distorts, and when about his city "the same for the same" - immediately to "culture and conscience" hits ... I know that he wrote the wrong word "Azerbaijan" did it not specificallybut that says a lot. And all the more, his hysterical reaction says a lot when I speciallyand not by accident answered him the same... This means that someone considers himself to be better, smarter, stronger, "whiter" than the other ... I can, but you cannot, as it were .... You should always remember the culture of behavior on the forum and the rules. Not only when the opponent writes.

              I am not casual to return to the question, because where where, and on the Russian audience, he did not blame me for what he blamed. Never.
      2. 416sd
        0
        18 January 2013 12: 58
        Belarusians, Little Russians, Chernorosses, Kazakhs, etc.

        Sovereign states are a fact. For a long time. Like it or not. But do not overshoot. Armenians once determined themselves - in Armenia. Enough.
  19. kNow
    +1
    18 January 2013 11: 14
    [/ Quote] The liquidation of the remnants of the Russian military presence in Azerbaijan, the Russian SPRN in Gabala, is also indicative. Azerbaijan finally made its geopolitical choice in favor of potential opponents of Russia - the United States, NATO and Turkey. The presence of the Russian military in Azerbaijan is undesirable for the West. [/ Quote]
    I want to turn to Samsonov only about the highlighted ...
    Why don't you analyze certain points in the "radar case"? There are many points out there that refute your given quote:
    1. Despite the note about the suspension of work - the radar is working.
    2. Since the contract has expired, it means that it also works without payment.
    3. There was absolutely no reaction from the Russian authorities, except for excuses that this did not threaten Russia's national security.
    4. Onishchenko is silent, the Migration Service - too ...
    5. On Putin’s proposal to share the Gabala radar station with the United States, Azerbaijan refused ....
    All these arguments speak in favor of the fact that the performance with the departure from Gabala was agreed between Russia and Azerbaijan ...
  20. Yurikus
    +2
    18 January 2013 11: 27
    So there was already an article about Gabala - without specialists from Russia, the radar would be incapable. Azerbaijanis cannot be pulled, but NATO does not need it.
    If Azerbaijan goes to Karabakh, then Turkey will not dare to intercede, at least officially, only by mercenaries (as in Syria). But Russia will certainly stand up for the Armenians, and then what should the Azerbaijanis do? Yes, they will also run as Georgians in 2008. The United States simply surrendered them, and they will surrender these zassat against Mother Russia!
    ps "For one force there is always another, more powerful one."
    1. Yarbay
      -4
      18 January 2013 11: 35
      Quote: Yurikus
      So there was already an article about Gabala - without specialists from Russia, the radar would be incapable.

      nonsense, if you need to find specialists too !!
      But we don’t need this colossus — this is clear to everyone!
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 12: 27
        not if key elements are removed and removed, then only America can conditionally launch it. And that is not a fact. And this is an object of SPRN. And it is only in Russia and the USA
        1. Yarbay
          -1
          18 January 2013 12: 48
          Quote: leon-iv

          not if key elements are removed and removed, then only America can conditionally launch it.

          the fact of the matter is that by and large they will not be able to withdraw!
          We just do not need this equipment!
          Why do we need it we have enough money !!
          Israel can do it too!
          They are still bugs !!
          1. 0
            18 January 2013 12: 53
            Why do we need it we have enough money !!
            Not means but no opportunities. And there is no where to apply it. Tk is part of a single complex.
            the fact of the matter is that by and large they will not be able to withdraw!
            Og so leave it all wassat
            Israel can do it too!
            They are still bugs !!

            No, it will not be able to have a number of nuances.
            1. Yarbay
              0
              18 January 2013 13: 31
              Quote: leon-iv
              And no where to apply it


              Done right !!
              Quote: leon-iv
              Og so leave it all

              Everything has been inventoried for a long time!
              Quote: leon-iv
              No, it will not be able to have a number of nuances.

              Israel has all the nuances)))
              1. 0
                18 January 2013 13: 39
                Everything has been inventoried for a long time!
                So what. Everything is in blocks there. Block removed put a dummy. And all the Labusas also rubbed their fingers in the 90s and got a shish with oil.
                Israel has all the nuances)))
                Og, they will buy these blocks at Odessa import)))
      2. mamba
        0
        18 January 2013 14: 28
        Quote: Yarbay
        But we don’t need this colossus — this is clear to everyone!

        Will you blow up like the Latvians in 1995, or extend the lease at a mutually beneficial price?
        Latvians even refused to rent, because the State Department paid more. And in this case, with Gabala, how?
        1. Yarbay
          +1
          18 January 2013 14: 37
          Quote: mamba
          Will you blow up like the Latvians in 1995, or extend the lease at a mutually beneficial price?

          The property was rented for almost 20 years!
          So Russia has already refused, but we do not need this object, and moreover in the resort area!
          I am a simple person, such questions are solved Thank God without considering my opinion !!
          Personally, I am against the general military aliens on the territory of my country!
    2. tm70-71
      -2
      18 January 2013 13: 22
      Yurikus,
      People! What are you writing about? "Zassat" - what are you talking about, do you have a brain? Have you seen Armenians here on this forum? Azerbaijanis are closer to me, albeit of different faiths, than Armenians. They have a different mentality, they lived closed before. do you understand?
      1. Yarbay
        +1
        18 January 2013 13: 54
        Quote: tm70-71
        Have you seen the Armenians here on this forum?

        Of course they saw a lot !!!
      2. 416sd
        +1
        18 January 2013 17: 21
        Seen seen ...
  21. T-90
    +2
    18 January 2013 11: 39
    All the good days! fellow
    It seems to me that Azerbaijan will be pushed to the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, as our American "sworn friend" George Bush once pushed towards the "deeply respected" Mr. Saakashvili !!! It is very similar to the scenario of the militarization of the former Soviet republic and shouts in foreign policy with Georgia. I will not be surprised that in Azerbaijan American rangers are already training soldiers and brainwashing President Aliyev, that if something happens, they will help them in the person of NATO and Turkey.
    The former republics of the USSR do not want to learn in any way that one cannot play with the elder brother of the Russian Federation. The conflict, as always, will be started with a pull-up (otherwise they do not know how!). It's just that if, God forbid, Turkey intervenes, then the scale of the conflict can grow beyond Karabakh. Turkey is a member of NATO, if this happens, then Russia will have to fight with the entire NATO bloc, including Europe. The NATO people see this in a terrible dream, because no one wants to see tanks in their Geyrope! Turkey also wants little to be wiped off the face of the earth. In any case, Russia needs to build muscle in the military sphere and foreign policy, so that there is not even a reason to think about it and write such articles! I hope Azerbaijan will not go on such an adventure, and common sense will triumph.
    PS This is purely my personal opinion on this situation, and not an imposition of a point of view. drinks
    1. Yarbay
      0
      18 January 2013 12: 52
      Quote: T-90
      Already very much like the scenario of the militarization of the former Soviet republic and shouts in foreign policy with Georgia


      Not even close to compare !!
      Georgia was preparing for a local operation, there in that zone they did not have and there was no layered defense!
      And the armies here and in Georgia are completely different and look and get ready!
      And in providing and in technology, Azerbaijan is many times superior to Georgia!
      1. 416sd
        +1
        18 January 2013 13: 01
        Alibek,

        99% of those who are here have never been in Georgia, nor in Armenia, nor in Azerbaijan. How do they know. Areshev and Zakharov write - they read and believe. Zhirinovsky says - they listen and believe. Because for them the Caucasus is the closest market, not the real Caucasus, with its problems. And what is paid is written and said to coincide with what they see on the market. That's all.

        I wrote it once, I’ll write it again - it would be cool if the whole world judged the culture of the Russian people not by Dostoevsky, Tyutchev or Pikul, but by the behavior of Russian tourists in Antalya.

        Stereotypes. And they are part of the semantic occupation of Russia since 1991.
        1. Yarbay
          -1
          18 January 2013 13: 34
          Quote: 416sd
          99% of those who are here have never been in Georgia, nor in Armenia, nor in Azerbaijan. How do they know. Areshev and Zakharov write - they read and believe

          I agree, a lot of stereotypes and a lot of ignorance of the topic of conversation!
          I mean the situation and the situation of things in Transcaucasia!
          and about the policy of Russia since '91, I completely agree!
  22. 0
    18 January 2013 12: 37
    I think that if Russia took on the role of a guarantor in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, then it definitely should never arm any other side. Without regard to possible profits.
    What relations can be built with Yerevan arming Baku? And vice versa.
    Of course, the Armenians will not go anywhere; in any case, they are forced to cling to Russia. But it seems to me not entirely moral.
    Neither cartridge nor one side. Each dollar received can cost a human life, Armenian or Azerbaijani.
  23. Max
    Max
    0
    18 January 2013 13: 06
    Article two, because it contains two main mutually refuting facts that the author describing delicately bypassed. I mean the first thesis at the beginning of the article that Russia sells quite impressive quantities of weapons to Azerbaijanis, and the second (essentially the remaining article) that the military threat comes from Azeirbadzhan, which is in the spirit of our slightly manic shifted world piz ** samson, may lead to world war. Sometimes it seems that Samson writes that the world war will directly affect the processes in the galaxy, and the Milky Way will be destroyed by a huge black hole :)
    1. Yarbay
      +2
      18 January 2013 13: 38
      Quote: max
      . Sometimes it seems that Samson writes that the world war will directly affect the processes in the galaxy, and the Milky Way will be destroyed by a huge black hole :)

      I would also note this with the author!)))
      Plus uncorrupted hatred of Turkey and Azerbaijan!
      In every article!
  24. T-90
    +1
    18 January 2013 13: 07
    Quote: Yarbay
    And the armies here and in Georgia are completely different and look and get ready! And in providing and in equipment, Azerbaijan is many times superior to Georgia!

    I do not argue that your army in terms of quantity of military equipment and personnel is different from Georgian. That's not the point !!!
    The fact is that Azerbaijan is becoming more and more a "pro-Western" country, heading towards NATO and the United States. This is alarming ... Since everyone used to be in one single country called the USSR. They lived in harmony, developed, went to the same goals. And now? Many are sold for green candy wrappers and promises of a great future with naglo-Saxons ... Upsetting! sad
    1. Yarbay
      +1
      18 January 2013 13: 45
      Quote: T-90
      The fact is that Azerbaijan is becoming more and more "pro-Western" country, heading towards NATO and the United States.

      Sorry, but these are the next stereotypes!
      Azerbaijan has long joined the organization of NON-ACCESSION countries!
      Azerbaijan cannot become pro-Western in any way and is not going in this direction, we are simply open for mutually beneficial cooperation !!
      The leadership of my country knows very well what the West is capable of, but understand, and we have our own important interests, which in many respects depend on the West!
      Quote: T-90
      Many are sold for green candy wrappers and promises of a great future with arrogant Saxons ... Grieving!
      Don’t be upset, we have been buying for a long time, but not for sale!)))))
      1. -4
        18 January 2013 14: 46
        This is my biased opinion. I like the Aizers more ar, more honest, but both of them in the 90s slaughtered the Slavs. For this I am offended
        1. 416sd
          +3
          18 January 2013 15: 12
          Come on? Is this taught in Russian schools now, or did Grandfather Potap tell around the corner?

          Facts...
          Show where the Azerbaijanis slaughtered the Slavs in the 1990s ... Sources, links ... And if they cut, then why today 200 thousand Slavs live in Azerbaijan?
          (By the way, the Armenians didn’t cut them either) ...
          1. -3
            18 January 2013 15: 43
            type in any search engine in Baku 1990. You will find official figs about ars. Here I agree with you. Poor lambs - macaws and evil wolves - isers. Do not be offended by slang, PLteeeeeSe
            1. Yarbay
              0
              18 January 2013 15: 50
              Quote: Vasya
              type in any search engine Baku 1990.


              and you will find exclusively under the authorship of Armenians nothing more than unsupported tales.
              Plus exclusively on Armenian sites!
            2. 416sd
              0
              18 January 2013 15: 59
              Well, would you still advise me to go to the Ministry of Defense of Armenia and ask there ... laughing I don’t need to type on the Internet - I was 11 years old and saw it with my own eyes. The way my Soviet army crushed both Azerbaijanis and Russians (the girl from our school Larisa Mammadova still lies on the Martyrs' Alley and her Soviet tanks crushed her and not the Azerbaijani animals) ... The rest below Yarbai wrote.

              Have you ever seen and talked to a Russian Baku citizen? or are all just "virtuos" Armenian and mythical sufferers from Wikipedia?
              1. Yarbay
                0
                18 January 2013 16: 09
                Quote: 416sd
                or are all just "virtuos" Armenian and mythical sufferers from Wikipedia?

                I wrote about this somehow!
                I was 18 years old and I remember from the program. Time showed one woman who told me how hard she managed to escape from Baku!
                I knew her and knew how she left, comfortably, worked in a high position !!
                By the way, she returned a year later and still works in the same position !!
                1. 416sd
                  0
                  18 January 2013 16: 14
                  You count, they really believe that in 1990 in Baku they cut Russian winked
                  Yes, many returned ... And from Israel returned, not many but some ...
                  We are good, we do not hold evil for a lie, let everyone return ...
                  The Armenians are also returning .... But with Karabakh.
            3. 416sd
              0
              18 January 2013 16: 19
              But I can tell you something else, about the one who cut whom whom:

              Askerova Salatin Aziz kyzy

              Azerbaijani journalist, correspondent of the newspaper "Youth of Azerbaijan" in Baku, National Hero of Azerbaijan. Born on December 16, 1961 in Baku. In 1979, she graduated from school number 18 named. Michael Mushvig. In the same year she entered the Azerbaijan Institute of Oil and Chemistry. She was married and had a son. Later, after graduation, she became a journalist. Since 1988, she worked as a reporter in the newspaper "Youth of Azerbaijan". In 1990-1991, she reported from Nagorno-Karabakh, and often traveled to the war zone. On January 9, 1991, on the way from Lachin to Shusha, 6 km from the road near the village of Galaderesi, the car in which Salatin Askerova was caught was fired upon by Armenian militants. There were three servicemen in the car with her: the battalion commander, Lt. Col. O. Larionov, the chief of staff of the Lachinsky district military commandant’s office, Major I. Ivanov and sergeant I. Goyek. Oleg Larionov was a native of Taishet, a Siberian. He commanded a battalion for more than five years, which in the spring of 1990 withstood the attacks of Armenians on the village of Baganis Ayrum in the Kazakh region. For the head of Larionov, the Armenians promised a reward of 10 thousand rubles. By the decree of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan No. 294 dated November 6, 1992, Askerova Salatin Aziz kizi was awarded the title of National Hero of Azerbaijan (posthumous). She was buried on the Martyrs' Alley in Baku. The street in Baku is named after her. One of the boats in Baku Bay bears her name. A memorial tablet is installed on the wall of the house where she lived. The village near which Salatyn Askerova was killed was named in her honor - "Salatinkend."

              I still remember the shots with the killed Russian officers, Larionov lying in blood on Willis’s steps with a Kalash without a horn ...
              1. Yarbay
                -1
                18 January 2013 16: 27
                Quote: 416sd
                For the head of Larionov, the Armenians promised a reward of 10 thousand rubles.

                As Colonel Blokhotin in Rostov !!
                http://vesti.az/news/69114
                Polyanichko and others in the sowing of Ossetia!
                1. 416sd
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 16: 35
                  They don’t know that the first and last terrorist attack in the USSR was committed by the Armenians in Moscow ... How do they know the telly will not show in the books they will not write, Uncle Ashot the neighbor will not tell ... Unhappy Russia ...

                  THE CASE OF ZATIKIAN 1977

                  http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D
                  1%80%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0
                  %B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%B2_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B5_(1977)
                2. 416sd
                  -2
                  18 January 2013 16: 39
                  THE CASE OF ZATIKIAN - 1977





                3. aray
                  -3
                  20 January 2013 15: 32
                  Is it your unitary resource where the sneaky liar Bahram Batyev hangs out? laughing
                  There is not a single truth. And Bahram in general, the Hollywood dreamer is still that)))
                  1. 416sd
                    +1
                    20 January 2013 23: 23
                    Of course, not only do I have a fuss here, do you still want me to answer LMSh? I answered him a couple of times, as it should. Today this is not my level. There is Bahram Batyev (by the way, my good friend), let him answer. When necessary. And if it's worth it. He will figure it out. For polemics with a toilet like Voskanapat, a duckling similar to Vesti.az is created. Everything is simple. Or do you want the whole Administration of the President of Azerbaijan, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, think tanks, the Ministry of National Security and the General Staff to sit on Voskanapat all in expectation that a man with a mustache will make a terrible hangover scary like the death of a banderlog and think that they will answer him?
              2. 416sd
                -1
                18 January 2013 16: 48
                National Hero of Azerbaijan Ruslan Alexandrovich Half

                He was born on October 21, 1969 in Zmiev, Kharkov region. In 1987 he entered the Syzran Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots. After graduating from college in 1991, he was sent to serve in Nakhichevan. After the creation of the Azerbaijani Air Force, he continued to serve in the helicopter squadron in Baku.

                Since 1991, he participated in military operations during the Karabakh war. He distinguished himself in the battles for Kubatly, Lachin, Agdere.

                On August 6, 1992, having received information that Azerbaijani troops were encircled on Kasapet’s elevation, the crew of the Mi-24 helicopter: Zakir Majidov (commander), Ruslan Polovinka and Javanshir Rahimov flew into the combat zone. Having made three sorties, they completely destroyed the armored vehicles and manpower of the enemy. The dead and wounded were taken from the battlefield. During the fourth flight, an enemy missile hit the helicopter.

                By the decree of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan No. 204 dated September 14, 1992, Lieutenant Ruslan Alexandrovich Polovinka was awarded the title of National Hero of Azerbaijan (posthumous).

                He was buried in his native Zmiev.
                1. 416sd
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 16: 49
                  National Hero of Azerbaijan Evgeny Nikolaevich Karlov

                  Born May 31, 1960 in the village. Dubrovka, Tula region.

                  Since 1984 he lived and served in Azerbaijan.

                  He participated in the battles of the defense of Agdam, Agder, Fizuli.

                  On April 11, 1992, he died heroically during the defense of the village of Arysh, Fizuli district.

                  By decree of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan No. 833 dated July 7, 1992, Yevgeny Nikolaevich Karlov was awarded the title of National Hero of Azerbaijan (posthumous).

                  He was buried in his native Dubrovka.
                  1. 416sd
                    +2
                    18 January 2013 16: 54
                    National Hero of Azerbaijan Viktor Vasilievich Seregin

                    Born March 23, 1944 in the city of Kharkov.

                    Civil Aviation Helicopter Commander. Since 1968 he lived in Baku.

                    On January 28, 1992, at 16:20, the Mi-8 civilian helicopter operated by him with 49 passengers was shot down, launched from the Armenian position by the Stinger thermal missile. After an explosion in the air and a fire in the cabin, Seregin managed to take the falling board away from the residential quarters of the city of Shusha, in the area of ​​the relay tower. He died with the crew and passengers.

                    He was buried in the Alley of Martyrs in Baku.

                    In November 1992, by the Decree of the President of Azerbaijan, the title of National Hero of Azerbaijan was awarded. Since 1995, one of the streets of Baku was named after him, and a memorial plaque was installed on the house where he lived.
                2. 416sd
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 16: 56
                  National Hero of Azerbaijan Igor Vladimirovich Makeev

                  Born on October 27, 1971 in Ganja. From 1979-1987 he studied at school number 39. He began military service in 1990 in Baku, and then continued in the Rostov region, where he was educated at the Sergeant School.

                  In connection with the events in Azerbaijan, Igor, having interrupted his studies, returned to Ganja. He explained the reason for his return to his mother as follows: "Mom, do not misunderstand me! I was born in Azerbaijan. Here I took my first steps. Here is my Motherland. And I consider myself a son of this land. And my son will not leave his Motherland in trouble. I must protect Azerbaijan, if necessary and at the cost of its own life. "

                  Having left for Baku, he enrolled in the detachments of the Ministry of Defense and went to the front. Makeev was appointed deputy unit commander.

                  On June 5, 1992, the Armenians launched an offensive on the village of Nakhichevanik. Igor in the battles for the village destroyed ten enemy soldiers. Although the Armenians managed to take the village, after 3-4 hours, in connection with the counterattack of the Makeev’s detachment, the village was recaptured. He also distinguished himself in the battles for Agdere. On August 2, 1992, in a battle on the Vyshka hill, Igor, along with an Azerbaijani nicknamed Nikulin, marched with a machine gun in the front position. While fighting, Igor saved the lives of 28 soldiers, helped them to get out of the encirclement of enemy soldiers, but he died. Igor was single. He was only 21.

                  By Decree of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan No. 204 dated November 6, 1992, Makeev Igor Vladimirovich was awarded the title of National Hero of Azerbaijan (posthumous).

                  He was buried in the "Martyrs' Alley" of the city of Ganja. In the village of Sadylly, a street is named after him.
          2. itkul
            -3
            18 January 2013 17: 12
            Taken from here
            http://kwas-1972.livejournal.com/243055.html

            Here is a live picture from Baku in the nineties. Bezhenka N.I. T-va: "Something unimaginable was happening there. On January 13, 1990, pogroms began, and my child, clutching at me, said:" Mom, they will kill us now! "And after the introduction of troops, the director of the school where I worked (this is for you not in the bazaar!), an Azerbaijani, an intelligent woman, said: “Never mind, the troops will leave - and here there will be a Russian on every tree.” They fled, leaving apartments, property, furniture ... But I was born in Azerbaijan, and not only me : my grandmother was also born there! .. "
            1. 416sd
              -1
              18 January 2013 17: 25
              These are fantasies reprinted from Armenian sources. By the way, the joke is that a Russian woman says that they "killed Russians" and in the photo on the source there are photographs of killed Azerbaijanis smile The author simply skimmed from an Armenian source, then gave a search on Google on the topic "Baku 1990" for pictures and it turned out what happened ... Once again, please give documentary (not articles, not "memories" from blogs, not opuses) but DOCUMENTAL confirmed facts, research, with photographs of corpses, etc., killed in Baku by Russians. And to answer the question why 200 thousand Russians live here today. And how, after the "massacre of the Russians", a dozen Russians became national heroes of Azerbaijan? The problem is tovarisch ...
              1. aray
                -2
                20 January 2013 14: 14
                And how did the dead Albanians end up in Khojaly? hi
                1. 416sd
                  +1
                  20 January 2013 23: 26
                  What is the exhibition in Istanbul? Are you sure that this is generally Istanbul and an event dedicated to Khojaly? Passed by, do not ... By the way, in such a makeshift way, you not only contradict my answers, but also your questions above about Khojaly ...
                2. aray
                  0
                  21 January 2013 03: 57
                  What are you all the same liars. (((
                  So you don’t know, what kind of exhibition? Now you will see.
                  It’s just disgusting. Yes, you, Heydar Mirza, are not inferior to Bahram Batyev at all. Although you seem to work for Ilham in the Administration. The same liar.
                  Therefore, I was always convinced that no matter how they put on a taliban tuxedo, everything is exactly the same, it remains the Taliban ((
                  Me and you, there’s nothing more to talk about.
                  I don’t even know what characteristic to give you request
                  Good luck. Trolls further on state. By the way, did you hear and Ilham began to collect comments on Twitter? Are you unique people laughing
            2. Yarbay
              -2
              18 January 2013 17: 26
              Quote: itkul
              Here is a live picture from the ninetieth year of Baku.


              I wrote about this in another topic !!
              The story from the Armenian site, written by an Armenian and reprinted!
              In the photos killed Azerbaijanis!
              Write more, you may find something!))
              1. 416sd
                +1
                18 January 2013 17: 41
                It always happens when people don’t know what it is about. feel
            3. Salumid
              0
              20 January 2013 03: 34
              Lying. When, after the "Blow" operation on January 20, 1990, when more than a hundred civilians (and only civilians!), Including the children of the elderly, were killed in Baku by troops led by Yazov Bakatin, Girenko, who arrived there, one or two Russian families fled in armored personnel carriers military personnel. At the same time, no one touched them, and in the crowd watching this flight, Russian girls were also standing and laughing at their panicky flight. The soldiers attacking Baku were intimidated that there were snipers on every roof. But NOT ONE sniper was caught, killed, and during the year of the special situation in Baku several pieces of hunting weapons (legal) were found. Russians, unlike Armenia, live well in Azerbaijan today. And Operation "Strike" was carried out by Moscow just a few days after the cessation of rallies and riots in Baku as punishment for the decision to secede from the USSR. The dead were ONLY civilians, including children, old people, women. The Soviet troops used explosive and incendiary bullets that did not give a chance of survival if they hit even the shin or shoulder, bullets with a displaced center prohibited by international conventions. People were crushed alive with tanks, ambulances were shot. that had nothing to do with Armenians or other nationalities. It was the punishment for separation from the Union
        2. 416sd
          +2
          18 January 2013 16: 23
          And there was also one of the first national heroes of Azerbaijan, Yuri Kovalev, nicknamed "Yura Cherny" ...

          Here is a recent interview with his mother:

          http://anspress.com/index.php?a=2&lng=ru&nid=119803
          1. 416sd
            0
            18 January 2013 16: 29
            Here is his grave on the Alley of Martyrs
            1. 416sd
              +1
              18 January 2013 16: 32
              Here is another Slavic grave from the Alley of Martyrs, no surname, no photo, and in quotation marks they probably wrote either a call sign or a nickname corresponding to the rank ...
          2. Yarbay
            +2
            18 January 2013 16: 40
            Quote: 416sd
            And there was also one of the first national heroes of Azerbaijan, Yuri Kovalev, nicknamed "Yura Cherny".

            I knew him very well!
            1. 416sd
              +1
              18 January 2013 16: 42
              I envy, really!
            2. +1
              18 January 2013 16: 44
              and here is the Hero! Iry Kovalev.
              1. Cavas
                +7
                18 January 2013 16: 49
                Quote: Apollon
                and here is the Hero!

                And here is another one!




                During the liquidation of an armed terrorist group by state servicemen, Hasin Kazli, an Azerbaijani citizen, was destroyed. The investigation established that H.Kazli entered the territory of Syria as part of a gangster formation through the Turkish-Syrian border.
                The fact that Azerbaijan is providing assistance to anti-government forces in Syria was known even before the death of Kazli.

                The largest number of militants from Azerbaijan was noted in the Turkish Apaydin camp, designed to expedite the preparation of terrorist groups
                1. 416sd
                  -1
                  18 January 2013 16: 52
                  I will say for you

                  1. There were not even one but four of them. All four Lezgi nationality, Wahhabi Sunnis.
                  2. They were not military personnel of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan, not civil servants, did not represent their state. It was their choice. Citizens of Azerbaijan were seen from this perspective in Afghanistan as well. So what? Few Russians on the side of the Chechens fought with Muslim beards? Or are there no Russians in Afghanistan now? Should I give a list of Russians seen in pranks outside the Russian Federation? This does not say that the Russian Federation supports terrorism, it’s just impossible for every citizen to deliver and follow every step according to the genjarm.
                  3. The last thing in your post about the "most" - by whom and when noticed? Source, facts ... And arguments about state policy in this direction ... Do you know that Russian planes with the help of Assad flew through Baku airport? No? Then come back to the Armenian forum ...
                  1. Cavas
                    0
                    18 January 2013 16: 58
                    416sd,
                    1. No need to speak for me! laughing
                    2. Is this what he told you personally? laughing
                    3.A are you discussing Russian? laughing
                    4. Go teach your wife cabbage soup! laughing
                    1. 416sd
                      -4
                      18 January 2013 17: 02
                      1. in your case
                      2. no, I have such a job to know
                      3. everyone and Russians are discussing here both Armenians and Azerbaijanis
                      4. you seem to have taught your wife already ... not only to cabbage soup ... wink
                      1. Cavas
                        +3
                        18 January 2013 17: 09
                        416sd,
                        1. Swagger is nothing more. laughing
                        2. Work at you tandem. laughing
                        3. Seriously? laughing
                        4. Once again, I advise you to teach your wife to cook cabbage soup. laughing
                      2. 416sd
                        -1
                        18 January 2013 17: 12
                        ...
                        Is free winked
                        P.S. He flew into ignore ... "To teach his wife" ... When dad ...
                      3. Cavas
                        +2
                        18 January 2013 17: 14
                        Quote: 416sd
                        Is free

                        You tell your dad so! laughing
                      4. +4
                        18 January 2013 17: 15
                        Quote: Cavas
                        2. Work at you tandem

                        Meth! express yourself tolling and conducting explanatory work among you wassat or so, wage war on the information space of the alleged adversary in the medium term bully Iop ... what am I talking about? belay
                      5. Cavas
                        +4
                        18 January 2013 17: 18
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Meth! express yourself tolling and conducting explanatory work among you


                        So what? laughing
                      6. +2
                        18 January 2013 17: 25
                        Quote: Cavas
                        So what?

                        Are you still worried about some lists? laughing You and I bring it into it is a necessary self-defense for people with low levels of social responsibility wassat
                      7. phantom359
                        0
                        18 January 2013 22: 10
                        Cavas, The picture is wonderful and instructive. 5 points. I read comments and I am surprised. Old man, do not start, everyone has their own truth.
                2. Yarbay
                  +1
                  18 January 2013 17: 08
                  Quote: Cavas
                  And here is another one!


                  Islamov Zaur Abubekirovich!
                  Lezgin!
                  So we also have Wahhabis, whom we destroy !!
                  And they run away from us !!
                  Yours are also Wahhabis and they are trying to climb to us and destroy them!
                  Quote: Cavas
                  The largest number of militants from Azerbaijan was noted in the Turkish Apaydin camp, designed to expedite the preparation of terrorist groups
                  this is how much ?? and by whom it is noted? we have those who somewhere are gangsters on vzaravrasheniyu or find themselves behind bars or in the grave!
                  1. 416sd
                    +1
                    18 January 2013 17: 11
                    Yarbai, he entered Google, typed "Azerbaijani - terrorist", this shit jumped out, he shared it ... That's all ...

                    Our way did not hide this, the first who wrote about it were our media outlets. For the rest, you said everything. I recalled a case about a gang of Haji Magomedov, which the Russians could not catch, eventually caught ours in Zagatala ... There was still hand-to-hand combat from the special forces of the internal troops, two died. And this cattle was stabbed with a bayonet, the guy seemed to have received a medal.
                    1. Yarbay
                      +2
                      18 January 2013 17: 20
                      Quote: 416sd

                      Yarbai, he entered Google, typed "Azerbaijani - terrorist", this shit jumped out, he shared it ... That's all.

                      I know him very well and I know what he is capable of !!
                      More recently, we had a fight and he is supposedly taking revenge!
                      Although before that he wrote in letters that he supported my views!
                      Quote: 416sd
                      I recalled a case about a gang of Haji Magomedov, which the Russians could not catch, eventually caught ours in Zagatala

                      almost all of them were then destroyed as a result of special operations, and the border secret destroyed this cattle on the border as far as I remember!
                      1. Cavas
                        0
                        18 January 2013 17: 23
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I know him very well and I know what he is capable of !!

                        Still would!

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        More recently, we had a fight and he is supposedly taking revenge!

                        Oh, how wrong you are again.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Although before that he wrote in letters that he supported my views!

                        As for tea, yes, but I have my own point of view and it cannot be changed.
                        I can say thanks again for the tea. choh sagol
                      2. 416sd
                        0
                        18 January 2013 17: 31
                        The border guards drove them away from the state border, towards the border of the Zakatalsky and Sheki districts. Five went into the forest. The special forces of internal troops went towards. Encountered in the forest. Our two died. Haji Magomedova was bayoneted by one of the special forces, I already know for sure, specified that he received the medal. The body of Gadzhi Magomedov was loaded into a helicopter and dropped from a height of two kilometers into his native village of Kateh for intimidation.
                  2. Cavas
                    0
                    18 January 2013 17: 16
                    Yarbay,
                    Alibek, until I make peace I won’t talk, you offended me!
                    1. +4
                      18 January 2013 17: 26
                      Quote: Cavas
                      Alibek, until I make peace I won’t talk, you offended me!

                      And I both damn you about this from the New Year holidays Taldychu fool
                    2. Yarbay
                      +1
                      18 January 2013 17: 33
                      Quote: Cavas
                      until I make peace I won’t talk, you offended me!

                      Your right!
                      I do not hold a grudge against you, but there are things that I can’t forgive even to my relatives!
                      However, in spite of everything, I sincerely wish you all the best!
                      1. Cavas
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 17: 49
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I do not hold a grudge against you, but there are things that I can’t forgive even to my relatives!

                        I would not have kept writing about revenge, which, incidentally, was not! request
                        I have the honor! hi
                      2. Yarbay
                        -2
                        18 January 2013 17: 52
                        Quote: Cavas
                        I have the honor!


                        Even so)))))))
                        well yes!))
                      3. -2
                        18 January 2013 18: 07
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Even so)))))))
                        well yes!))

                        Hi Alibek !!!
                        Yes, I wrote it right.
                        Someone has ginseng in various poses, someone is an honor.
                      4. Cavas
                        0
                        18 January 2013 18: 16
                        Quote: atalef
                        Someone has ginseng in various poses, someone is an honor.

                        The Israeli comrades have excellent notions of honor (God forbid, of course).
                      5. Cavas
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 18: 13
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Even so)))))))
                        well yes!))

                        I look, I really want to "continue" or I misunderstood?)))
                      6. +3
                        18 January 2013 18: 23
                        [quote = Cavas] I look, I really want to "continue" or I misunderstood?)))
                        Correctly good I ignited the fire and forgot to pee wassat
                      7. Cavas
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 18: 31
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Correctly the Fire kindled and forgot to pee that would have gone out

                        good
                        How to call the whole site so much courage is enough, but how to apologize just like a peasant, then pride stuck! request
                        Okay, enough about that, I don’t want to raise dirt again! stop
                      8. +4
                        18 January 2013 18: 39
                        Quote: Cavas
                        Okay enough about that, I don't want to raise dirt again

                        That's really guys stop stop
                      9. Yarbay
                        0
                        18 January 2013 20: 10
                        Quote: Cavas
                        I look, I really want to "continue" or I misunderstood?)))
                        I somehow do not care honestly!))
                        I was simply surprised and remembered Winnie the Pooh - that was his favorite expression !!))))
                        that is, to your understanding of Honor. I do not have a claim, this is your business!
                      10. +2
                        18 January 2013 20: 57
                        Alibek! Your division fool Well, which one of you will finish first negative It’s time already lop .. ugh you bury the ax of war together in someone’s troll head and calm down drinks
                      11. Yarbay
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 21: 49
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Alibek! Your division

                        I agree the last line is not very !!
                        Ruslan honestly, I tried to write as tactfully as possible, but it turned out even worse !!
                        It would be better to say nothing at all)))))
                      12. Cavas
                        +3
                        18 January 2013 21: 32
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        that is, to your understanding of Honor. I do not have a claim, this is your business!

                        Yah?))
                        As I understand it, your notions of honor are in solidarity with your friend, who supported you by fasting.))
                        Well .. well .., you will go far.)))

                        "To be proud of the glory of your ancestors is not only possible, but also must;
                        Not respecting it is shameful cowardice ”
                        Pushkin
                      13. +2
                        18 January 2013 22: 43
                        Meth! And your division too fool You’ll get to the point of blacklisting each other so soon am Well, all sorts of professors and other trash will be happy. Do you want this? hot estonian guys wassat
                      14. Cavas
                        +2
                        18 January 2013 22: 51
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Meth! And your division too

                        Do not touch my former division - it is the Guards! drinks

                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        You’ll get to the point of blacklisting each other so soon

                        Well now let's kiss the gums. laughing
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        That's all sorts of professors and other trash then rejoice

                        Here you are - how could you be so "respectful" oh such SUCH people? wink
                      15. +2
                        18 January 2013 23: 11
                        Quote: Cavas
                        how could you be so "respectful" about such SUCH people? wink

                        Well, you still quote the classics -How could you mine well, etc. wassat In general, I repeat, when normal people bark trollin with joy polishes the polynomial in anticipation
                      16. Cavas
                        +2
                        18 January 2013 23: 20
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        In general, I repeat, when normal people bark trollin with joy polishes the polynomial in anticipation

                        Let them sublimate, we have not died, we always have time to charge on the forehead! wink
                      17. +2
                        18 January 2013 23: 22
                        Quote: Cavas
                        we didn’t die, we always have time to charge on the forehead!

                        Not only charge and not only in the forehead ... We also know how to embroider feel wassat
                      18. Cavas
                        +1
                        18 January 2013 23: 28
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        We also know how to embroider

                        A cross! laughing
                      19. +2
                        18 January 2013 23: 34
                        Quote: Cavas
                        A cross!

                        And the eight too laughing
                      20. +2
                        18 January 2013 23: 13
                        Quote: Cavas
                        how could you do that

                        Well, I still can not so. Especially about SUCH people. am wassat
              2. aray
                +1
                20 January 2013 15: 28
                All of them are vile mercenaries fighting on the side of Azerbaijan, in the same trench with the Mujahideen. He is a hero for them, and for us, a vile and vile mercenary.
                1. 416sd
                  +1
                  20 January 2013 23: 27
                  Sneaky mercenary Monte Melkonyan and those who dance on the bodies of women and children ...
                  Free ... Blacklist ...
  25. Avenger711
    -1
    18 January 2013 13: 23
    It is especially touching that if it weren’t for the Soviet colonialists, Azerbaijan would be poor and hungry on its oil, or it would be pumped west, paying only for pipe maintenance.
    1. 416sd
      +3
      18 January 2013 14: 06
      If there were no Soviet colonialists there would be no USSR ...
  26. +1
    18 January 2013 13: 47
    By the way, it turns out inters.
    After 15 years as the Caspian flotilla is brought in, the Russian Federation can at any moment overcome the oil industry. And no one can do anything there.
    But I think it will be when the great redivision of the world begins. BUT first will be Central Asia. there will be attempts to create an Islamic belt. In the north of Africa and in the SA.
  27. Seriously
    0
    18 January 2013 14: 10
    Well, you Russian just laugh! everyone knows that Russia supports Armenia on all issues related to Karabakh! Naturally, we want Russia EXACTLY on this issue to not interfere in our affairs with Armenia! but the fact that we are going to attack or are going to attack yes, damn I, an Azerbaijani, I don’t think that we have such a stupid state! our current problems with Armenia and Iran! But on the account of creating a second state in Iran, this is fully feasible! but with Russia there’s nothing to argue with us that the borders have been agreed upon, no one has any claim to it! Yes, we buy weapons from the West because we consider their weapons better than Russian! this is not a threat to Russia! want a drone ?? the best in the world are Israeli! we want a passenger plane the best westerns that's all!

    for that matter, all the troubles with my country and people on any handiwork of Russia! but we don’t quarrel today !!!
    on account of the fact that armenia will be able to use the 102nd russian base in armenia if the azerba attacks the Nagorno-Karabakh!
    102 base can help Armenia in case there is a territorial, terrorist threat to Armenia and, d! and we will seize our territory of KARABAKH from the separatists, so if Russia decides to intervene and send troops to protect Karabakh, this is assessed as a violation of the borders recognized by the world and Russia itself !!! Will Russia go for it ?? who will choose ?? here is the main question !!! and fuck nothing to wait from Turkey, and they’re not worth the current and can croak!
    1. 416sd
      +2
      18 January 2013 14: 21
      That's about the fact that to create a second state in Iran is fully feasible ... We are 80% buy weapons from Russia and Belarus, you again too clearly and categorically raise the question.


      1. How many times in your life have you been to Iran and how well you know Iranian society, politics, economy, etc. why are you thinking so confidently? The articles "Azadlig" and "Musavat" and the idiotic comments of Vafa Guluzade do not count.

      2. We basically just buy weapons from the Russian Federation and Belarus.
      1. Seriously
        0
        18 January 2013 22: 14
        Yes, I realized that we are buying more from the Russians! I had to introduce the fact that Russia is experiencing that we buy weapons from the west and cooperate! Well, I wanted to say that who is profitable and of high quality and choose! but do not do something evil to someone
    2. +2
      18 January 2013 14: 45
      Quote: Ernst
      for that matter, all the troubles with my country and people on any handiwork of Russia! but we don’t quarrel today !!!

      Ernst, that’s it. And the attitude to Russia. And the prospects for tomorrow.
      1. 0
        18 January 2013 16: 05
        Why do you consider your yandia and ignore the Karabakh
      2. Seriously
        0
        18 January 2013 22: 12
        well yes ! I understand the behavior of Russia! it should be so! He doesn’t want to lose control in the South Caucasus so that in the future the West will not be pinched here! Russia has already lost Georgia Armenia everyone understands how Azerbaijan exists in general! Therefore, both the West and Russia are trying to gain the position of Azerbaijan!
        1. +2
          18 January 2013 22: 19
          Russia has not lost Georgia, cut off the necessary pieces and all.
    3. 0
      18 January 2013 16: 02
      Let’s live together. I had in the platoon ROVSHAN ISMAILOV, it seems ISMAIL-OGLI. Cool Man. I can not find. Help. He is from Baku.
      Violate the Decisions of the Sov. No one will be without. I think after conversations and guarantees everything will grow together. Especially We need you, as well as WE YOU.
      You have the MOST adequate state, except for the BSSR.
  28. 0
    18 January 2013 14: 20
    And let Azerbaijan take its original lands and Armenia its own. What then will remain of Turkey and Iran?
  29. toguns
    +1
    18 January 2013 15: 10
    0_o if Azerbaijan is going to fight with someone, only with the words of its adherents on this site wassat
    Your cap :)
    1. 416sd
      -1
      18 January 2013 17: 00
      Then you will be killed first, be sure. I can even tell someone ...
      1. toguns
        +3
        18 January 2013 17: 27
        Quote: 416sd
        Then you will be killed first, be sure. I can even tell someone ...

        forum intern fighter you decided to threaten me :)
        1. Cavas
          +3
          18 January 2013 17: 30
          Quote: toguns
          forum you are our intern-fighter :)

          Yaroslav, invite him to spit on the monitor, otherwise he hid from me in the lock! wassat
          1. +3
            18 January 2013 17: 44
            Listen Met! But I think I’ve already been rewarded with the entry just like you. I don’t see some either. A proposal was born.
            1. Cavas
              +3
              18 January 2013 17: 50
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Listen Met!

              And I warned you! request
              And you argued with me .... laughing
              Now go get this troll now! drinks
              1. +4
                18 January 2013 18: 27
                Quote: Cavas
                Now go get this troll now!

                To hell with him with the troll - the same part of the ecology is bad that those who just go in for the first time will not see the big picture and reaction Something is not finalized sad
          2. toguns
            +4
            18 January 2013 17: 56
            Quote: Cavas
            Yaroslav, invite him to spit on the monitor, otherwise he hid from me in the lock!

            Do you think this will help ???
            the more they write such nonsense, the more it becomes clear to me how the Armenians squeezed out their Karabakh and inserted non-foolish ones.
            1. Cavas
              +3
              18 January 2013 18: 06
              Quote: toguns
              Do you think this will help ???

              He doesn’t, but his monitor may become cleaner! laughing
        2. 416sd
          -1
          18 January 2013 17: 39
          You're free too
  30. 0
    18 January 2013 16: 11
    Why do you want Little Russia to join, and Karabakh cannot be attached to Azerbaijan?
    1. Avenger711
      -1
      18 January 2013 17: 35
      In Little Russia, everything was decided by the Pereyaslav Rada.
      1. +1
        18 January 2013 19: 15
        Quote: Avenger711
        In Little Russia, everything was decided by the Pereyaslav Rada

        Everything has been decided on Karabakh, including by the Soviet government.
  31. +5
    18 January 2013 16: 35
    According to the comments, this discussion breaks all records. what
  32. Avenger711
    +2
    18 January 2013 17: 34
    Of course, I understand that I really want to put myself in a positive light, but Russia is not the country where Azerbaijanis are respected, so comrade 416sd only shakes the air in vain. And I’d better listen to my dad, who served at one time in sunny Azerbaijan.

    I hope that the supply of weapons and app. parts to Azerbaijan will soon cease, otherwise it will be unpleasant for me if our Su-35 shoots down the Mi-35 manufactured by us
    1. 416sd
      +1
      18 January 2013 17: 46
      I do not expose myself in a positive light, and God forbid that I need it. This is an article written poorly by the author. They don’t favor - without problems, let them not favor, just don’t have to write in response that they don’t favor Russians in Azerbaijan either, they cut someone, etc.
  33. Edward85
    +1
    18 January 2013 17: 36
    Regarding the Naval Forces of Azerbaijan. From 1998 to 2002, my father worked at 23 plants of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense, was engaged in the repair of radio stations and other equipment on ships of the flotilla. So, according to his words, there is no fleet at all, there is a pile of rubbish left over from the USSR that is unable to solve any problems. The only large ship is the Project 159 Patrol ship, which is docked as two of its afterburner gas turbines do not work and it could only move on a diesel engine. All more or less valuable equipment was removed from it, where the drag was. metal. The rest of the ships are no better.
    1. 416sd
      +1
      18 January 2013 17: 44
      All this old stuff has rotted long ago, so now, the patrol boats are small and the recently renovated flagship (by Russian standards, it's a boat) "Gusar" ... Why do we need a bloated Navy? To fight the Russians? With Iran? with Turkmenistan? Here is the answer to the question that the author in the article brought panic. As regards the ground forces, there are objective reasons for increasing the size and quality, but as for the Navy, it clearly attracts an elephant by the ears.
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      18 January 2013 17: 49
      Quote: Edward85
      From 1998 to 2002, my father worked at 23 plant of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, was engaged in the repair of radio stations and other equipment on the ships of the flotilla.


      I served there in those years and your father probably knows me!
      Yes, at that time the Fleet was not in very good condition, because everything was done to maintain what is!
      Much more important were ground units and aviation!
      Now a lot has changed!
      1. Edward85
        +1
        18 January 2013 17: 58
        Maybe he knows. He knew many officers in the flotilla.
  34. 0
    18 January 2013 18: 26
    Now it’s already clear to everyone that Gorbachev and Yeltsin are traitors whose actions were aimed at weakening the USSR and its subsequent collapse. The transfer of Karabakh to Armenia is one of the steps aimed at destabilizing the country (criminal in its essence), this decision was not even made in Moscow but in Washington. Isn’t it time for Russia to call a spade a spade, and begin to correct the consequences of the rule of these individuals instead of convincing Azerbaijan that it should put up with the loss of its territories (and why, in fact, should it?)? At this stage, Russia, for some reason, stubbornly pursues the same policy as Gorbachev regarding Karabakh, it is obvious that this will lead to further rapprochement of Azerbaijan with NATO countries (Moscow simply does not leave another way). Russia is arming Azerbaijan and ... talking about a possible confrontation with it, supporting the idea Armenian dissidents of the late 80s and ... accuses Azerbaijan of betrayal ... Actions are not logical - hopeless struggle with the consequences if not eliminated for a real reason.
  35. dmb
    0
    18 January 2013 18: 59
    Reading the article and comments once again confirms the correctness of the thesis that a word is worse than a bullet. Somehow in one of the comments it was already suggested that "Samsonov" is a group of authors. I think he is correct, because recent articles on the lack of arguments and making delusional assumptions are clearly off scale. Who will explain to me from what Budun Russia should shed blood for the aggressor country? Or the Azerbaijanis are wrong, speaking about the occupation of their lands. I have friends, both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, which allows me to be objective. What the hell is Armenia's ally if this union is beneficial only to Armenia? I simply do not see any benefits for Russia. The base in Armenia protects Armenia, but not Russia, and Armenia's relations with the United States, our main enemy, are much warmer than with us. As for the statements of clinical idiots of any nationality, if you wish, I will give you more than a dozen sayings of Armenian leaders who accuse Russia of all their troubles.
    1. Yarbay
      +1
      18 January 2013 20: 27
      Quote: dmb
      As for the statements of clinical idiots of any nationality, if I wish, I will give you more than a dozen sayings of Armenian figures accusing Russia of all their troubles.

      You know, if it were only politicians, I would have understood, but just the citizens * of an ally * would have treated like that, I have repeatedly given links to famous Armenian forums
      here

      http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=43272

      http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=14923&st=3800&p=909007&#entry90900

      7
      Again, Russian troops are already in Artsakh ?? it wasn’t enough for Artsakh to pay for stinky asses of Russians like Armenia does
      http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=41969&st=1250&p=926813&#entry92681

      3

      Russians are a pig for Hitler, a subhuman for a European, scum for an American, why should this Russian be something special for an Armenian?
      http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=41969&st=1550&p=934158&#entry93415

      8
      How can one hate an * ally * to write this?
      1. +3
        18 January 2013 22: 05
        And did Azeragitpromneft find all this on the Internet? And I suppose they ran out of money. We found some offended and it became clear what other millions of Armenians are mean and insidious.
        But you never know who is there that writes on the Internet, why the rest should blush for it. And Azerbaijanis write only verses about love and the sublime about Russians.
        For me, for example: the teacher called my stupid 3-year-old son a dumb chyukmek because he does not speak (the neighbor's parent told me) and what should I hate all Russians now? Who should I consider them?
        No need to put a label on the whole nation, especially for the sneakiness of another.
        1. Yarbay
          0
          18 January 2013 23: 06
          Quote: Hairy Siberian

          And did Azeragitpromneft find all this on the Internet?

          Pi Pez just)))))
          Insulting the Russian people and we are to blame again?)))))))
          Mikael do you have sheep moderators in Armenia?)))))))))))
          They do not understand that this is an insult to * an ally * and a friend?))))
          In one of the topics, the user asks if I can write this?))) They say to him, let's go ahead !!)))
          I can tell you dozens of such topics here !!
          Quote: Hairy Siberian
          But you never know who is there that writes on the Internet, why the rest should blush for it. And Azerbaijanis write only verses about love and the sublime about Russians.
          You blush it means that you are personally the right person, unless of course you tell the truth, and do not adjust!
          Not in one Azerbaijani resource you will not see such insults in the Russian address !!
          They can write that Russia is an enemy, but such insults that the Armenian * allies * write have never seen !!
          About the Russian people, never write something. You won’t write or write!


          Quote: Hairy Siberian
          No need to put a label on the whole nation, especially for the sneakiness of another.

          The fact is that part of your people is in the blood !!
          Your people write it and your moderators do not erase it for years !!
          and no one will reach you in the sublimation !!
          When you need Christians, when it is beneficial type of Caucasians !!
          But you are neither the one nor the other !!
          1. +3
            19 January 2013 00: 04
            I repeat once again that there is no need to put a label on the whole nation because of some offended ones. Perhaps they had a skinhead killed in a relative in Russia, or you never know what could be. Personally, I have not met Russophobian Armenians. And I haven’t met such comments on the sites of Armenian.
            How can you be responsible for all Azerbaijanis that they write and do not write. Clean up the Internet, or something!
            And let's not organize competitions here, who will find more gossip and please the Russians, for me personally this is crap.
            Among all nations there are morons, perverts, traitors, and most of all just balts, so let's not build relationships according to their vile scream.

            It’s NOT up to you to judge whether we or others. Your people were not even mentioned when we became Christians, and even more so when we appeared in the Caucasus.
            1. Yarbay
              -1
              19 January 2013 00: 25
              Quote: Hairy Siberian
              I repeat once again that there is no need to put a label on the whole nation because of some offended ones. Perhaps they had a skinhead killed in a relative in Russia, or you never know what could be. Personally, I have not met Russophobian Armenians. And I haven’t met such comments on the sites of Armenian.
              The site I have brought is one of the most famous and most visited in Armenia and Armenians of the whole world!
              Do moderators also skinheads killed relatives ???
              Moderators are also Armenians!
              That is, if your skinhead relative was killed, then Russia can be called Srash, and Russian subhuman ??
              But why not a single Armenian was indignant there in the topics I presented ??
              Why doesn’t anyone say there, guys, what are you writing, is it the Russians they saved us in the ass ??
              Quote: Hairy Siberian
              you can be responsible for all Azerbaijanis that they write and do not write. Clean the internet that l

              So show))))
              Find in our forums that where Russian is insulted as a nation ??
              You will not find !!
              Because there are no patients on your head like you !!
              And because you are surprised at this, I believe that you knew very well and know how your people are abused by the Russian people!

              Quote: Hairy Siberian
              It’s NOT up to you to judge whether we or others. Your people didn’t even exist when we became Christians, and even more so when we appeared in the Caucasus

              Started))))))))))))
              And the Armenian gave birth to Adam)))))))))
              and Jesus was Armenian !!))
              Just among your leaders and those who consider themselves true Armenians there are a lot of perverts and they have brainwashed many of you!
      2. itkul
        0
        19 January 2013 00: 34
        Thank you for the links, I read, to be honest I did not expect such an attitude from the Armenians. As Shvonder said in "Heart of a Dog", this is some kind of shame
        1. +3
          19 January 2013 02: 13
          Damn had to read, honestly expect the worst. I thought someone out there decided to voice the opinion of the whole people! And then there’s a regular shit on a second-rate forum. Moreover, only two, three people get together, and with mutual insults, you can find a million such sexes here in Russia. By the way, the moderators did warnings there several times, but did not delete the mutual insults, I don’t know why.
          I also heard worse about the Armenians and in my own, for example, in YouTube, sometimes you read such comments, even the blood begins to boil from insults, but I did not become a Russophobe because of this, I understand that Russians are not all like that.
          In any case, this is not the opinion of the Armenian people about the Russians, but a single mutual vyser.

          Normal people judge the people not by some kind of balabol, but by worthy representatives, among whom among the Armenians worked for the good and who gave their lives for Russia abound both in quantitative and percentage terms.

          I'm yelling. Thank you for informing the Russians, such as you will come in handy.
          Maybe I don’t know how to rummage in someone else’s drama and look for all sorts of rotten articles and supposedly historical references, so that the Russians would praise me. But if the war starts, I will fulfill my duty to Armenia and as a citizen to Russia. And from Russia I expect that, as promised, it guarantees protection against the invasion of Turkey and the food corridor. And there God will judge whose blood will be shed more.
          1. Yarbay
            -1
            19 January 2013 02: 24
            Quote: Hairy Siberian

            Damn had to read, honestly expected the worst

            Damn can be worse than this ?????))))
            Quote: Hairy Siberian
            Moreover, only two, three people get together, and with mutual insults, you can find a million such srach here in Russia.
            Who is there to bask there?

            Quote: Hairy Siberian
            By the way, the moderators made warnings there several times, but did not remove mutual insults, I don’t know why.

            And I do not know !!))
            remain to guess!
            There, if you read carefully, they ask the moderator, you can say such a thing about the Russians and with tacit consent, scumming begins!
            I repeat the question why not a single Armenian was found who would say that you are writing ??
            That the Russians saved us, they are our allies, having blinded them we now exist and are not torn apart !! ???

            *** from Russia, I expect that, as promised, it guarantees protection against the invasion of Turkey and the food corridor. And there God will judge whose blood will shedearlier *** - here is your nature, you expect everything from everyone and think that everyone owes you !!
            But not one of you at that forum spoke out for the people from whom you expect help !!
            1. +1
              19 January 2013 02: 49
              Because normal Armenians work and do not suspect about such second-rate forums. Moreover, few people in Armenia speak Russian. Yes, and they didn’t care who’s there, what you’ll write behind everyone. I would write, but this topic is "Nazism in Russia" and comments from three years ago.

              The main thing is that this is the opinion of one two people, and not the whole people.
              1. Yarbay
                -1
                19 January 2013 03: 04
                Quote: Hairy Siberian
                The main thing is that this is the opinion of one two people, and not the whole people.
                Far from one or two!
                And the silence of the rest is the support of the speakers !!
                Quote: Hairy Siberian
                very few people speak the Russian language in Armenia

                and why in Armenia many do not speak Russian?
                Learn Turkish?)))
                This site is one of the most famous in Armenia and Armenians from all over the world write there !!
                Quote: Hairy Siberian

                Because normal Armenians work and are not aware of such second-rate forums

                There are how many abnormal people registered?))))))
                1. 0
                  19 January 2013 03: 18
                  Basically, Russian-speaking Armenians live in Russia, including many who do not even know the Armenian language. . There were almost no Russians there even during the Union, and after that they left, it’s hard to live there. I know there are Molokans and now too.

                  Who do you want to convince me that all Armenians from all over the world are registered at that forum and are sitting and wailing Russia?
                  It’s all your dreams!
                  1. +2
                    19 January 2013 08: 37
                    Do not argue, you still will not prove anything to this gentleman. The Armenians are close to us in spirit, here is the opinion of one of the Russians, and Russia, I am sure, will fulfill its duty, do not worry.
                    Give birth, raise children, we need a strong Russia, in which we have been living with your people for centuries, and the Lord will help us in this.
                    1. +3
                      19 January 2013 08: 45
                      Quote: Marrying
                      Armenians are close to us in spirit

                      In spirit, yes, that's just Amyan forums watered the Russians. They don’t understand that there will be no Russia and there will be no Armenia, and they won’t understand until they wash themselves with blood. This happens to all nations, including in Europe.
                      1. +1
                        20 January 2013 17: 14
                        Dear Alexander . Armenians are everywhere - therefore they are all different. smile
                        Someone understands the reality, and someone is mistaken. Someone is grateful for the support, and someone is worried about a strong addiction. But those about which you were so "kindly" "told" Yardai do not belong to either one or the other, it's just a bunch of balabols judging the whole nation by all sorts of fascist-minded individuals.
                        Let's not be like them, because our peoples washed themselves with blood enough to forget about it.
                      2. Cavas
                        +2
                        20 January 2013 17: 22
                        Quote: Hairy Siberian

                        Dear Alexander . Armenians are everywhere - therefore they are all different.

                        Yes, yes, now your nickname is clear!
                        Quote: Hairy Siberian
                        Let's not be like them, because our peoples washed themselves with blood enough to forget about it.

                        I support -100%! hi
                      3. 0
                        20 January 2013 23: 26
                        Cavas
                        Thank you for understanding and support ! hi
                    2. 0
                      20 January 2013 16: 44
                      [quote = Zhenya]

                      Thank you dear for the kind words. Knowing about the existence of people like you, I will never lose faith in Russia and Russians, no matter how harsh everyday life and injustice they would expect me here. The Lord will help us.
  36. 0
    18 January 2013 19: 22
    They want to fight? Yes, let them fight. Only the result of any war can be direct
    my opposite to what they wanted to achieve, starting a fire.
  37. +2
    18 January 2013 19: 32
    Pay attention to how many one-day accounts have appeared in this thread ... laughing Does anyone really need to translate any attempt at a constructive conversation into an emotional plane, and turn it into a banal srach? bully
    1. 416sd
      +1
      18 January 2013 20: 23
      I subscribe to every word ...
      Also drew attention to the accounts.
  38. +3
    18 January 2013 19: 34
    Answering the question posed in the article, one can unequivocally answer that Azerbaijan will solve its territorial problems, IMHO, in the next 2-3 years. The situation in the region just "whispers". Is it worth blaming the former (FORMER !!!) friendly republic. No. each has its own shirt closer to the body. And the blanket - of the territories, the waters of the Caspian Sea, the ability to directly trade in one's own oil and other people's gas - will drag on itself, while becoming friends with the Devil and the Devil. The vector is selected.
    Russia needs to be ready for such a development of events, not to rush about, they say, "what about you, but what about you, we come to you, and you are from us, let's live together" - everything is useless. Armenia will not be drained now, otherwise we will lose even what remains of the "face". Russia will be strong - maybe the Azeri brothers will flex their muscles, buzz, and that's all. If we are weak, there will be war (the United States will push with all its might to ensure that this is not Syria for you).
    And in general, IMHO, it’s time to relate to the former republics of the USSR without a raid by the Supreme High Command — pragmatically, but honestly.
    1. -1
      18 January 2013 20: 07
      Quote: Chen
      Armenia will not be drained now, otherwise we will lose even what remains of the "face"

      I disagree, Armenia itself gives a lot of reasons. This situation reminds me of the initial period of relations between the United States and Israel, when Israel was the only US ally in the Middle East. As a result, the United States had to protect all the Jews in the UN (in fact, the Jews did everything that head disregarding even his ally), and pursue a policy of "double standards" towards Muslims. Now the situation has changed, the United States has enough allies in the Middle East who have oil (which Israel does not have), objective reasons to cut with someone because of Israel the United States does not have (a Jewish lobby in the United States, habit, army arsenals, intelligence, loss of face ... - all this is already shaky and changeable), the United States has more than enough of its own problems, Israel itself is gradually capturing the arms markets of its ally (note how Latin America was armed twenty years ago, and than now), but at the same time, every Jew (as before) is sure that the United States is simply obliged to bomb all who can compete with Israel in the region That is, and pay Israel for not fighting Egypt (even funny) ... I think in the future a similar situation will arise in relations between Russia and Armenia (with a discount on the fact that the Armenian lobby is much more influential in the United States than in Russia)
      1. 320sd
        0
        18 January 2013 20: 11
        Arkan. And I hope you don’t need to tell about the "Armenian lobby" in Ukraine? )))))
        And about the sarcophagus of Prince Vladimir in the Hagia Sophia in Kiev, with 4 Armenian letters carved on it.
        1. +1
          18 January 2013 20: 37
          There is such an anecdote, Misrob Mashtots fried noodles, but they burnt and, jumping up and down, covered the ceiling, so Misrob invented the Armenian alphabet.
          1. aray
            -1
            20 January 2013 14: 04
            You really Hrych)))
            This is a joke on the Georgian alphabet. He also gave them letters so that they would not write in Turkish.)
        2. +2
          18 January 2013 20: 55
          Quote: 320sd
          Arkan. And I hope you don’t need to tell about the "Armenian lobby" in Ukraine? )))))
          And about the sarcophagus of Prince Vladimir in the Hagia Sophia in Kiev, with 4 Armenian letters carved on it.

          I’m somehow off-course, what are you talking about?
      2. +1
        19 January 2013 12: 08
        There are no eternal enemies and eternal friends, there are eternal interests. This is clear. And it will be different with Armenia, not like it is now. But not soon.
  39. Anna
    +7
    18 January 2013 19: 50
    Azerbaijanis cannot be idealized. In 90, not those who explored Orudzhev oil and geologists of the Tyumen region arrived in Russia. In 92, the closed region of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District was opened - the Chechens and Azerbaijanis began to divide the region - they divided the region and drugs went. At the same time, there were seizures of markets in the country - they quickly found an alliance with the authorities and the police. Almost all of them allocated lands for their sharashka pavilions. Azerbaijanis working throughout the country on vegetable bases have never paid taxes to the state; to this day, few of them have anything except Vagit Alikperov. . Around the large cities settled communities of Azerbaijanis - where mass fake food was made. Money in the markets is quick money and it is the blood of the economy. And this money does not work in Russia. In Russia, they seem to not notice this - who benefits from this ???

    In Russia, there are about 5 rubles of them; they need to be sent a little to their historical homeland, since there are no turners or locksmiths among them. cosmonauts Let them give their heat to their homeland and join their opposition - we certainly do not need such people. And then in St. Petersburg-are nominated as deputies already. M to the institutes of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - they should be accepted only in the third generation

    In Russia, there are about 5 rubles, they need to be sent a little to their historical homeland, and there are no turners or locksmiths among them. cosmonauts Let the heat in their homeland give and join their opposition - we certainly do not need such people. And then in St. Petersburg - they are already nominated for deputies. And in the institutes of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - they should be accepted only in the third generation. And on the border with Azerbaijan to build a "buffer" controlled zone and give the Cossacks the broadest powers in the Stavropol Territory, and it's so hot with the Wahhabis
    1. 0
      18 January 2013 21: 06
      Quote: Anna
      At the same time, there were seizures of markets in the country - they quickly found an alliance with the authorities and the police.

      Smiled. I am Russian, born and raised in Ukraine, in the 90s also shared markets ... Let's send me ...
      "I acknowledge my guilt,
      measure
      power,
      depth.
      And humbly I will accept:
      the link
      hard labor
      jail.
      But preferably in July,
      And preferably in the Crimea. " laughing
      1. Anna
        +6
        18 January 2013 21: 23
        Wonderful poems! The fact of the matter is that this hidden and, in some places, open trading activity is detrimental to Russia. You live in Ukraine - and I do not know about you. We have to take Tyumen warehouses on Barabinskaya. Yekaterinburg warehouses on Zavokzalnaya street on Komsomolskaya. Samara is a huge vegetable base on Olympic Str. And about Moscow and St. Petersburg - generally silent. The fact is that they do not pay taxes and fell out of sight of the tax authorities because of the introduction of the Law on Inspections - only with the consent of the prosecutor's office. And the prosecutor's office on its website in all regions hangs out a schedule agreed for a year. T e go to them and check the documents no one can t because they are not in nature but there are only Russians. Here we will check them. Where are the taxes? And the drugs are right there.
        1. +2
          18 January 2013 21: 49
          Quote: Anna
          The fact of the matter is that this hidden and, in some places, open trading activity is detrimental to Russia

          Madame, this is a matter of the tax police and the prosecutor.
          Quote: Anna
          The fact is that they do not pay taxes and fell out of sight of the tax authorities because of the introduction of the Law on Inspections - only with the consent of the prosecutor's office.

          And this is already the competence of the anti-corruption departments. In Russia, the owners are not Azerbaijanis - what rules the authorities dictate according to such and the businessmen play (here the Russians need to ask the authorities a question "Why do they pay bribes instead of taxes?"), And here interstate relations and the Karabakh problem?
          1. Anna
            +2
            18 January 2013 22: 04
            The Karabakh problem will not be resolved in the coming years either - such points "postponed for later" will be played like cards and will contribute to the development or impetus to the development of any military conflict. With the characteristics of this nationality (Azerbaijanis) from their activities on the territory of Russia - a simple assessment is given - and it is desirable that when deporting them to their homeland in Baku, one can take into account that they will definitely come to the opposition camp (because of stupid Azerbaijani politicians). This is about the same as the 5th column in Russia will contribute to Aliyev's sober thinking. What do you disagree - although you are from Ukraine
            1. +2
              19 January 2013 01: 33
              Quote: Anna
              With a description of this nationality (Azerbaijanis) from their activities on the territory of Russia, a simple assessment is given - and it would be desirable if they were deported to their homeland in Baku and it could be taken into account that they would definitely come to the opposition camp

              More recently, in the Great Multinational Country, it was called "Inciting hatred on national grounds ..." (with all the ensuing consequences) and not "just an assessment."
              Madame, in which country do you want to live?
              1. Anna
                +1
                19 January 2013 08: 21
                They got the whole of Russia. And to live in your own country in your own Russia - and if you already arrived then by visa and for a short period. Or according to the quota - by a locksmith, a turner, or who else is required there, but only by the quota. And we do not need to supply drugs with us and our freaks are enough beyond all measure.
                1. +1
                  19 January 2013 11: 31
                  Quote: Anna
                  They got the whole of Russia

                  Well, I don’t know, I always got the goat that the USA got Russia.
                  Quote: Anna
                  Or according to the quota - by a locksmith, a turner, or who else is required there, but only by the quota.

                  If there are gaps in the legislation of Russia, and some officials are corrupt, this will be used, and not only them.
                  Quote: Anna
                  And we do not need to supply drugs with us and our freaks are enough beyond all measure.

                  It seems to me that the main flow of drugs to Russia is not from Azerbaijan.
                  Talking about the Karabakh problem, we are talking about anything but not the Karabakh problem smile.
                  1. Anna
                    +1
                    19 January 2013 12: 54
                    I agree with you that the dialogue has gone a little to the side - but in Karabakh I wrote my opinion above. This problem may come up (and most likely it will) - in the light of the rapid arming of Azerbaijan with Israel. This is not even a problem - but unresolved by military means between two states neighbors can contribute to the outbreak of war in the Caucasus against Russia
                    1. +1
                      19 January 2013 21: 17
                      Quote: Anna
                      This problem may come up (and most likely it will) - in the light of the rapid arming of Azerbaijan by Israel

                      This problem surfaced even under Gorbachev, and it led to the fact that Russia received a hotbed of tension in the immediate vicinity of its borders, Russia is rapidly losing a profitable trading partner and political partner, Russia risks being drawn into a military conflict in which it will not be a liberator (and if to say bluntly - Russia will be forced to become an invader). And what did Russia gain in return for all these losses and risks? I have no purpose in convincing you of anything, I just want to say everything - when solving such problems, you must first find answers to simple questions: Who made it? What motive is it made of? And who ordered it?
                      1. Anna
                        +1
                        19 January 2013 22: 48
                        I do not agree with you on the part .... that Russia is losing a profitable partner, you mean, apparently, Azerbaijan ??? He is a competitor to Russia but not a partner. It's good that Russia got ahead of the South Stream - pulling Turkey over to its side. In part - Russia will be an "occupier" give at least one fact in the history of Russia - where Russia would have unleashed a war. Always defending and defending. The questions listed by you - who unleashed and what motives - and others, this will historians study and draw conclusions. The answers you have received this minute to the above questions of yours right now in our time - this territorial problem cannot be solved. Such conflicts can and can be resolved as a result of the war and at the end of the war as a trophy or conquest of any side, and as a rule the world community should accept this as a fact. Then reconciliation
                      2. +1
                        20 January 2013 11: 17
                        Quote: Anna
                        It is good that Russia was ahead of the South Stream - by pulling Turkey to its side.

                        Oh, yes, Gazprom's profit is now the most fashionable national fetish of Russians (when looking at Russia from the outside it is very noticeable, and believe me - it does not paint Russia at all).
                        Quote: Anna
                        To the questions listed by you - who unleashed and what motives - and others, historians will study and draw conclusions.

                        Why didn't you study the question yourself before discussing it? Very soon Russia will have to make a decision, you can imagine the cost of an error using the example of Chechnya (with a discount on the scale), and you suggest that we figure it out "later, historians"?
                        Karabakh is a mine on the way of Russia (or - the good old rake) and you suggest stepping on it?
                      3. Anna
                        -1
                        20 January 2013 12: 40
                        The "rake" is not ours and it is not necessary to attribute this rake to us .. As for the study of the Karabakh conflict - you are right - I sat down and began to study it. In my everyday life, I somehow manage without this knowledge - but you pushed me. And here's what is interesting and I will drop the link for you ..... http: //www.armenianhouse.org/demoyan/turkey/ch9.html About Gazprom - here I am personally pleased for our company. I know how Rem Vyakhirev created it and how I could save it from Chubais and other privatizers. And since basically Russia in this period lives from tax replenishment to the budget of Gazprom, and therefore there is a special attitude towards this company in Russia. By the way, Gazprom is Novy Urengoy - the gas capital and yours from Ukraine are immeasurably there and you can also kindly treat the Russian company
                      4. 0
                        20 January 2013 14: 45
                        Quote: Anna
                        And now, what’s interesting, and you’ll drop the link ..... http: //www.armenianhouse.org/demoyan/turkey/ch9.htm

                        Explaining the reasons for a possible war with Azerbaijan to the Russians Do you refer to information taken from ArmenianHouse.org? smile Madam, thank you hi You cheered me up on my birthday. smile
                        Quote: Anna
                        And tk basically Russia in this period lives from the tax replenishment of Gazprom’s budget, and therefore, the attitude to this company in Russia is special.

                        Yes, for God's sake, good luck to Gazprom! Just putting the interests of this company at the forefront, many lose sight of a lot of other factors, but briskly striding forward with your head held high, sometimes you need to look under your feet. I actually suggested the Russians visiting this See the section to look at the situation a little wider and deeper. But you, Madame, definitely do not need it.
                        Peace and quiet to your home! Madame.
                2. 416sd
                  +2
                  19 January 2013 12: 34
                  Oh, and then the Russians from Russia do not leave anywhere wink Are the Azerbaijanis feeding the Russian mafia in the USA, Greece, Spain?

                  I say again if a person has never seen a single Russian, and the first thing he sees is the average Russian tourist in Antalya and his behavior, then I would look at the image of the Russians ...

                  By the way, how is it with the Russian who shmon brought in Cambodia by shooting at sailors and locking the captain in the cockpit? Released?

                  Right gentle and silky ... Everyone is to blame everywhere but not Russians, huh?

                  Where shit is called shit there is nothing to blame for others, the more the source of the problems is common.
                  1. Anna
                    -1
                    19 January 2013 13: 28
                    I gave an assessment to the Azerbaijanis who came to Russia after 90 years and noted that there are great writers and geologists and FAVORITE in Russia Muslim Magomaev !! Those who arrived after 90 years, they harm Russia and we do not need - no offense. We have our freaks of all stripes of more than enough, and I noted this - you did not pay attention ?? As for the Russians - I agree with you - the behavior of our tourists, again, some - a nightmare and quiet horror! And in Cambodia, Polonsky is sitting in jail and Cambodian sailors withdrew their application for a large sum of money. But that’s why no one in his heart skipped a beat for him in Russia
                    1. 416sd
                      +2
                      19 January 2013 13: 34
                      Well, here, too, our behavior begins to enrage us already in the Baku-Moscow plane ...

                      He himself had conflicts with fellow countrymen in Moscow when he saw the behavior of some on the Okhotny Ryad. He gave into the snout protecting a Russian girl.

                      The problem is different - people who have never visited you think that all of Azerbaijan is big Cherkizon. This is if you give the problem a very generalized name.
                      1. Anna
                        0
                        19 January 2013 14: 11
                        416sd,
                        The problem is different - people who have never visited you think that all of Azerbaijan is big Cherkizon. This is if you give the problem a very generalized name.
                        You are absolutely unfortunately right.
        2. +2
          19 January 2013 02: 00
          Quote: Anna
          Wonderful Poems

          Hats off to the work of Leonid Alekseevich Filatov! hi
      2. toguns
        +1
        18 January 2013 21: 37
        Quote: Arkan
        And preferably in the Crimea.

        so you’re not in Crimea, but in Vorkuta :)
        1. +1
          18 January 2013 22: 17
          Quote: toguns
          so you’re not in Crimea, but in Vorkuta :)

          I myself would go there, I have a friend there (I don’t have all the time). Well, if they send me away, then I don’t go. I am by nature, you know, a rebel. laughing drinks
          1. toguns
            +3
            18 January 2013 22: 25
            Quote: Arkan
            I myself would go there, I have a friend there (I don’t have all the time). Well, if they send me away, then I don’t go. I am by nature, you know, a rebel

            Quote: Arkan
            And humbly I will accept:
            the link
            hard labor
            jail.
            But preferably in July,
            And preferably in the Crimea.

            everything is clear with you, you are the next master of the verbal-genre :)
            1. +2
              19 January 2013 01: 21
              Quote: toguns
              everything is clear with you, you are the next master of the verbal-genre :)

              No, I'm just saying what I think. It's just that I once lived in a huge country in which the Union Republics lived peacefully within the borders that everyone considered just, I remember who and how destroyed this country, and I see what consequences this led to. And it seems to me It is quite logical that in order to rectify the situation, it is necessary, at least, to think - "and not whether everything should be returned as it was?"
              1. toguns
                0
                19 January 2013 02: 00
                Quote: Arkan
                No, I’m just saying what I think.

                If you said that you thought your posts would not contradict one another.
                Combine, but we need it ???
                We learned a lot about ourselves from our neighbors (occupiers, well, so on from the list).
                Some of our neighbors think that former friendship within the former union state gives them some bonuses, unfortunately they need to be upset and do what is beneficial to us and not to them, so do not be offended, but the kindergarten is over.
                You object to me that you have interests, I will disappoint you those who are led to slaughter have no personal interests, you only have interests that impose on you.
                1. +2
                  19 January 2013 02: 49
                  Quote: toguns
                  If you said that you thought your posts would not contradict one another

                  Where did you see contradictions in my words?
                  1. toguns
                    -2
                    19 January 2013 03: 20
                    The seeker - may he find ...
                    ps
                    if you still haven’t guessed, my post after Vorkuta is just your two quotes, I highlighted, and that the most interesting one quote is contradictory to the other :)
                  2. toguns
                    -2
                    19 January 2013 14: 19
                    Quote: Arkan
                    Where did you see contradictions in my words?

                    in the verses you quoted indicate one thing and your words are completely different.
                    the question arises what caused such a contradiction ???

                    morality number 1 ....
                    do not promise what you cannot do by definition.
                    moral number 2
                    language is my enemy, sometimes it’s better to be silent and not promise.
                    moral number 3
                    learn to be responsible for your words.
                    1. +2
                      19 January 2013 21: 27
                      Quote: toguns
                      in the verses you quoted indicate one thing and your words are completely different.
                      the question arises what caused such a contradiction ???

                      I still don’t understand anything.
                      Quote: toguns
                      morality number 1 ....
                      do not promise what you cannot do by definition.
                      moral number 2
                      language is my enemy, sometimes it’s better to be silent and not promise.
                      moral number 3
                      learn to be responsible for your words.

                      I don’t know what you think about yourself that you think you have the right to teach the lives of others. No, of course, thank you so much for reminding me of these simple life rules, but that’s our communication, it’s probably better to complete, intellectual masturbation is not something for what I visit this site.
                2. +3
                  19 January 2013 03: 31
                  Quote: toguns
                  Combine, but do we need it?

                  Yes, this is you and think. I only expressed my opinion, and so, I wouldn’t have a war.
                  Quote: toguns
                  We learned a lot about ourselves from our neighbors (occupiers, well, so on, on the list)

                  I agree, there was everything, including in Russia - with such a large-scale catastrophe as the collapse of the USSR, everything could be much worse. Now that relations need not be established?
                3. +1
                  19 January 2013 11: 39
                  Quote: toguns
                  Some of our neighbors think that former friendship within the former union state gives them some bonuses, unfortunately they need to be upset and do what is beneficial to us and not to them, so do not be offended, but the kindergarten is over.
                  You object to me that you have interests, I will disappoint you those who are led to slaughter have no personal interests, you only have interests that impose on you.

                  It is said somehow stereotyped, this phrase can be projected onto any situation. I am at a loss to answer something.
              2. 0
                19 January 2013 08: 45
                I will tell you frankly, I am in favor of restoring only a few republics, namely Ukraine (but without a Western one, because there have always been problems with them), Belarus, Kazakhstan (if he himself wants to, of course), Armenia and all.
                Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Georgia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Moldova are not needed, we heard too much dirt from them over the past 2 decades.
                1. +2
                  19 January 2013 11: 47
                  Quote: Marrying
                  I am in favor of restoring only a few republics, namely Ukraine (but without a Western one, because there have always been problems with them), Belarus, Kazakhstan (if he himself wants to, of course)

                  I think talking about restoration without understanding the reasons for the collapse (and not eliminating them) is simply pointless. And maybe even harmful.
                2. 0
                  20 January 2013 11: 41
                  There are tribes by which we created states. And there are peoples who have helped. The latter include Georgia, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Moldova. They had statehood, but who were under the Turks, who were under the Persians, and the Angles took aim at all. You need to know history.
                  India was not like a state. It was the kingdom of Galicia
              3. 0
                20 January 2013 15: 41
                list please. In Russia, lawsuits have been filed and you
    2. Yarbay
      0
      18 January 2013 23: 18
      Quote: Anna
      Azerbaijanis cannot be idealized. In 90, not those who explored Orudzhev oil and geologists of the Tyumen region arrived in Russia. In 92, the closed region of the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District was opened - the Chechens and Azerbaijanis began to divide the region - they divided the region and drugs went. At the same time, there were seizures of markets in the country - they quickly found an alliance with the authorities and the police. Almost all of them allocated lands for their sharashka pavilions. Azerbaijanis working throughout the country on vegetable bases have never paid taxes to the state; to this day, few of them have anything except Vagit Alikperov. . Around the large cities settled communities of Azerbaijanis - where mass fake food was made. Money in the markets is quick money and it is the blood of the economy. And this money does not work in Russia. In Russia, they seem to not notice this - who benefits from this ???

      Yes, do not idealize, I agree!
      We wrote about it here above!
      And who is to blame? The mayor of your city was Azerbaijani, the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate was Azerbaijani, the governor is Azerbaijani, the head of the FSB was Azerbaijani, was the president Azerbaijani?
      Why no one can capture any market with us ??
      Why do we almost all pay taxes ??
      Why don't you blame yours ??
      Why don't you plant criminals?
      If you can’t cope, then deport these bandits to us, then we will quickly re-educate them !!
      1. Anna
        0
        18 January 2013 23: 31
        I wonder - where is this place or country or territory where there is no corruption?
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          18 January 2013 23: 44
          Quote: Anna

          I wonder - where is this place or country or territory where there is no corruption?

          Corruption has nothing to do with our bandits in jail and do not tell the police or mayors of cities what to do !!
          Those who are trying to curry favor and chasing show-offs are sent for a long re-education!
          And to you, to my great regret, on TV they show and advertise the life of thieves in law !!
          Recently, about the thief of the North almost an hourly transmission on the central heating station was given !!
          Real lifestyle advertising !!
          1. Anna
            -1
            19 January 2013 00: 05
            I agree with you - about the transfers! Media in Russia are under the influence of the United States
            1. Yarbay
              +1
              19 January 2013 00: 44
              Quote: Anna
              I agree with you - about the transfers! Media in Russia are under the influence of the United States

              and what about the Azerbaijanis, if you think that you are controlled by US agents ??
              1. 416sd
                +3
                19 January 2013 12: 31
                Alibek,

                90% of Russian media and Internet resources in a strategic perspective work to undermine the Russian Federation.

                Do you think it just appeared like "enough to feed the Caucasus?" or the idea of ​​creating a Russian republic as a subject of the Russian Federation just went on.
                1. 0
                  20 January 2013 15: 47
                  I agree. but it feels like your government is getting finances from there
            2. 416sd
              +1
              19 January 2013 11: 47
              PPKS!
              I think after this, you can generally turn off the discussion ...
              Not everything that is written in Russia is written for Russia ...
      2. toguns
        +2
        18 January 2013 23: 41
        Quote: Yarbay
        If you can’t cope, then deport these bandits to us, then we will quickly re-educate them !!

        wassat Alibek question: why 3/4 of the ethnic group of Azerbaijanis live anywhere but not in Azerbaijan ???
        1. Anna
          +1
          19 January 2013 00: 04
          Tell me the address - and we will be happy to send you from Russia.
          1. Yarbay
            -1
            19 January 2013 00: 42
            Quote: Anna

            Tell me the address - and we will be happy to send you from Russia.

            If the flag is not visible, then send to Azerbaijan!
            1. Anna
              +2
              19 January 2013 08: 11
              Several years ago, in a train traveling to Baku, I had to travel with a journalist from Azerbaijan in the same compartment and was accompanied by one satellite. In the conversation, it turned out that the gentlemen traveled to large Azerbaijani communities where, in order to create and publish a magazine on the territory of Russia, where life in Azerbaijan would be told and to attract them to go to their homeland, On the allocation of land, etc., as well as on the rights of Azerbaijanis to the territory of my country. And this outraged me - they wanted to arrange a second Kosovo. Already someone and the Azerbaijanis know their rights and OBLIGATIONS by all 150%. Then I offered them - for God's sake, take them all - but we don’t need them all. They already got the whole people - in Sagra they got bullets for the supply of drugs, and then it will be so. Our corrupt officials and policemen amiably rule and give preference to them - they will wait for the worst. We also have to pay for deportation - yes, you just pick them up - we do not need them. We are able to trade ourselves
              1. Yarbay
                +1
                19 January 2013 12: 41
                Quote: Anna

                A few years ago I was on a train traveling to Baku

                So all the same, who went or went?))))))))))) I have never met a woman who would write about herself in a masculine way)))))))))))))
                1. Anna
                  -1
                  19 January 2013 13: 32
                  Sorry mistake - when in a hurry I do not have time to look through. I’m rewriting - A few years ago - I rode the train from Samara to Yekaterinburg
                2. Salumid
                  +2
                  20 January 2013 05: 19
                  Do not focus on such trifles. The horse understands that the site is far from pro-Azerbaijani, far from everyone here is impersonating who they are. The main thing is to tell a lot of truth, and in the interim to skip the most important thing - the duck on which ALL bet is made. To create and confirm the opinion that Azerbaijanis are ALL savages, Azerbaijan is the main danger for the entire region, and has territorial claims even to the United States. The rest is water.
                  During the war, the Armenians praised Heydar Aliyev on the radio. The calculation was simple - since the enemy praises, then he is bad. Destabilization. It’s not without reason that on many resources trolls use different names, either offering to rise to Lezgins, sometimes Talysh, or telling tales about expelled Russians, or about gangs of Azerbaijanis attacking the Russian village .... Such GRU trolleys and others like him were created and supported by hundreds
              2. 416sd
                0
                19 January 2013 12: 43
                Are you Anne or Anna? wassat
                I was already starting to fall in love ....
                1. Anna
                  -2
                  19 January 2013 13: 32
                  Good afternoon - I'm Anna
      3. Anna
        0
        19 January 2013 08: 16
        Call and take them all. I blame my own. that corruption in Russia is unprecedented. We and our bandits have enough - of all stripes. And we don’t need to add
      4. 416sd
        0
        19 January 2013 12: 37
        Alibek,

        There are several military-historical forums in the Russian Federation where half of the people (Russians!) Write instead of "Kaliningrad" under the avatar "Konigsberg" ... I think this is an answer to a lot in terms of the state of today's Russia ... And with whom are we arguing? winked
  40. +9
    18 January 2013 19: 59
    I read the article with interest, and then comments with even greater interest. In my opinion, the article unnecessarily demonizes Azerbaijan, arming itself in our troubled times, and it’s stupid to blame it. Karabakh is generally a separate issue and the topic is painful for both sides. I have been serving in Armenia for almost 5 years and you yourself understand what I hear about this. My personal opinion, the freaks who ruined the Union, contributed to this conflict, then they froze the conflict and either could not, or did not want to resolve the issue peacefully. As a result, we have a deadlock and when it will be decided incomprehensibly. The belligerent attitude of Azerbaijanis is clear, but I doubt that the war will solve the problem, because not only Armenians and Azerbaijanis have their interest in the region. Well, in the comments, as always, it’s boiling, we love to get personal.
    1. Anna
      +1
      18 January 2013 21: 50
      Tupolev-95 I do not agree with you in the part where you write .... they are unnecessarily demonizing Azerbaijan. "Ilhom Aliyev himself thrust his head into the world redistribution - he was promised territories in Iran and also promised land in Russia and in the construction of the Great Caliphate to Kazan. His father was much smarter and more cunning - and he would have thought 10 times before taking part in something against Russia. Even if Aliyev gets the Azerbaijani provinces, then under his rule he will wash with blood more than once and through his territory the "Salafis" will simply walk and it is not yet a fact that he will be left to rule - no one has given him any guarantees.
      1. +5
        18 January 2013 23: 10
        I don’t think Aliyev is so shortsighted. Speaking about the return of Karabakh, he raises his rating within the country, the broad support of his people is worth a lot. Based on the current situation, he needs to skillfully maneuver in an extremely turbulent region and avoid fatal mistakes. The Great Caliphate before Kazan is suicide.
        1. Anna
          0
          18 January 2013 23: 40
          The Great Caliphate is easy and simple to do .. The borders are full of holes. The buffer has never been with Azerbaijan and Georgia. Even a double buffer does not hurt. 1 line along the border is more rigid. And 2 - it is necessary to give the Cossacks - and sharply strengthen their role and authority in the Stavropol Territory. And given the interests and confrontation of financial groups, Medvedev and Putin. And most likely the Anglo-Saxons are betting on Medvedev and bring him closer to the Oppomies - the coup is easy to arrange. For the Caliphate - about 7 years old has already been made. There are already caches on the territory of Tatarstan and there are such routes where bus drivers simply warn and do not stop. The ostrich’s position - that everything is safe in our Tatars - now gives the opposite results. Studying at religious universities abroad and introducing agents of religious influence and also destroying the clergy of the traditional trend of Islam has created a favorable field for the emergence of Wahhabis. And we must take into account - with the fall of Syria, all this religious rag will be in the Volga region and in the Urals - they were late
          1. +1
            19 January 2013 11: 32
            Well, you messed up! Why does Russia need a buffer with Azerbaijan and Georgia? What are the Cossacks? The government does not give them any support, the Cossack movement is a personal initiative of individual citizens, a lot of talk and very few real cases. You can forget about Stavropol and Pyatigorsk, as about Russian cities, many thanks to the government. But the Caliphate is very loudly said. In Chechnya, 97-98 there was no unity — each field commander pulled a blanket over himself and reached the point of fighting. Leave Russia today from the Caucasus, the war of all against all will begin. What a coup? What are you speaking about? Tatarstan needs tight control by law enforcement, it is necessary to combat manifestations of religious and national intolerance. But this is also the result of our shit democracy, which our enemies use, and not some mass popular movement of Tatars or Bashkirs, and certainly Azerbaijan has nothing to do with it.
            1. Anna
              -1
              19 January 2013 13: 05
              I don’t agree with you - maybe I wrote dilettantically. And about shit democracy, I agree with you. As for the buffer, you gave it in vain to doubt. Borders with Azerbaijan leaky walk here and there. And in Tatarstan it’s too late - but still it’s necessary to strangle Wahhabis
      2. Salumid
        0
        20 January 2013 04: 53
        You are wrong about the territorial plans of Azerbaijan in relation to Russia and Iran. Azerbaijan has NO such plans, and if they talk about it, then only those who are interested in the deterioration of Azerbaijan-Iran and Azerbaijan-Russia relations. SLAVE of pure ... Armenian water. Azerbaijan only needs to return the territories occupied by Armenia and restore the Borders as of 1988. The Armenians were offered the maximum - the maximum Autonomy within the boundaries of the Azerbaijan Republic. It is the Armenians who plan to build the Great Armenia from sea to sea (including part of Russia, Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan). There is such a map of "Great Armenia".
        1. Anna
          -1
          20 January 2013 12: 56
          Do not be cunning - about the territorial plans of Azerbaijan - as it turns out, since the reign of G. Aliyev, he has been dancing a dance ...... http: //www.armenianhouse.org/demoyan/turkey/ch9.html
          1. 416sd
            0
            20 January 2013 13: 25
            ANNE ...
            Your source is just an example of objectivity ...
            Would you also refer to "Mein Kampf" when discussing the problems of industrialization in the USSR
            1. Anna
              -1
              20 January 2013 13: 45
              The immense cannot be embraced and it is not possible to know everything. Compare with your sources and there will be truth. I think you will also not like this source ... http: //www.yerkramas.org/2012/12/05/armyano-azerbajdzhanskij-konflikt-vp
              olitike-turcii /
        2. aray
          +2
          20 January 2013 15: 20
          Quote: Salumid
          Libel of pure ... Armenian water

          Are the deputies presenting them to the Milli Majlis regarding the renaming of Azerbaijan as North Azerbaijan, are also Armenians? Or flirting with Israel and the destruction of Iranian scientists, are also Armenians? And the direct appeal from your politicians to the seedlings of Russia and Iran to pieces, are also Armenians?
          This list of your infamous and vile policies is simply huge. You are like ostriches, gentlemen of Azeri-Turks.))
    2. Misantrop
      0
      19 January 2013 00: 33
      Quote: Tupolev-95
      My personal opinion is that the freaks who ruined the Union contributed to this conflict.

      Not just but specific. Namely ... Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev, who was in charge of interethnic relations at the Central Committee of the CPSU at that time. Karabakh is one of the landmarks of his "glorious" path ... winked
  41. 416sd
    +2
    18 January 2013 21: 04
    Thanks to everyone for the discussion, in case of questions, write in a personal.
    If there was excessive emotionality - do not judge strictly!
    To the star!
  42. Seriously
    -1
    18 January 2013 22: 22
    Russians! I personally do not care how you call us and what you think about us despite the fact that your country constantly dictated to us what to do and how to be, despite the fact that we were forbidden to learn our language at the time, were not allowed to celebrate religious and Turkic holidays! they killed people, distributed our lands to all who can get current! Today I do not belong to Russia and the Russian people! badly ! just carefully study the story and see who was your friend and who is the enemy !! and whom you keep on your neck and whom you humiliate! the color of the skin does not decide who what!
    1. 0
      20 January 2013 12: 27
      A people who could not save their country and religion is not worthy of their State. Learn the story. The whole territory of Azerbaijan belonged to Persia. Persia had its own religion, now newfangled Azoterism. Stepan Razin, robbing the western coast of the Caspian Sea, robbing Persia. Until the 13th century, the Caucasus was one of the centers of Christianity. I didn’t read your textbooks, but according to Kazakhs, Kazakhs came from one of Noah’s descendants who ended up in the Alatau mountains. You are obviously the direct descendants of Adam, who are recognized, like Christ, by Muslims.
      Russia, in contrast to some, even adjusted the official religion for itself. Now Shrovetide and Bayram are celebrated, which are albeit pagan, but national holidays. Both Christians and Muslims and atheists celebrate them.
      Once again about the story: You are great, but why all the sources of oil belonged to the Jews of the Rothschilds
  43. 0
    18 January 2013 22: 35
    yes you are all normal, that Azerbaijanis are what ares, that are genatals, fragments of an empire, it’s a pity that life has set us apart, growing up without us, as mentioned above, our nuclear umbrella will protect everyone from real showdowns in Europe, so to speak,
    especially thanks for the hit YOU SUCH, GIVE GOODBYE,
    he always took azer’s contentment to work, they don’t drink, they are executive, they drive their own, in short it’s a pity that such articles take place
  44. +8
    18 January 2013 23: 15
    Hey! Baptized people! Stop pouring from empty to empty. Happy Easter! Ah yes to Jordan! Slavs and Mordovians, but Merya, all with a caveman, we will show to the Gentiles the Orthodox Spirit of the Spirit, the weather at Epiphany as an order; snow and frost. It's time to holy voditsa
  45. DeerIvanovich
    +4
    18 January 2013 23: 36
    Russia did not guarantee Armenia the preservation of the territory of Nagorno Karabakh, but since Mr. Ilhamov decided that Azerbaijan was not on the path with Russia, there is nothing to be surprised at the short-sightedness of the ruling elite of Azerbaijan!
    Thirsty for war are fools.
  46. +3
    18 January 2013 23: 45
    The article is quite sensible and competent, and for those who do not think so, I would advise a closer look at modern geopolitics. And it would be nice to look into history, damn interesting thing. Yes
  47. wax
    0
    19 January 2013 00: 52
    M. Zoshchenko has a funny and instructive story "Nervous people." There, in the communal kitchen, because of a brush that disappeared from one of the veins, a grand fight broke out.
    I started to read comments and saw how little it takes for good neighbors to quarrel: toss a stupid little article, touch the national strings and the melody of war played.
    There is no war in the Caucasus under any sauce - everyone will feel bad and nobody will feel good. Russia will do everything to stop the military conflict, if it arises. I am sure that there are people who want to make such a gift for the Olympic Games in Sochi. Russia's actions against such people will be lightning fast and tough. I am sure.
  48. meq
    meq
    0
    19 January 2013 02: 00
    320sd,
    According to this list, a hundred people have already been checked for the presence of these people in Azerbaijan. The presence of such was not.
    1. 320sd
      -1
      19 January 2013 03: 14
      Of course not. They were strangled in the Tavush marz of the Republic of Armenia.
      Therefore, the cash check of these people in Azerbaijan))))))))) did not show cash)))))
  49. +2
    19 January 2013 02: 44
    "How can Russia respond?"
    It even sounds indecent. Considering that we are rearming the probable adversary of our probable ally, Armenia, although it is difficult to expect something more unpredictable from our foreign policy position, it is surprising that Syria has not yet been leaked, as Libya was frankly leaked.
    1. toguns
      0
      19 January 2013 03: 26
      Quote: Alone
      did not merge, as frankly merged Libya.

      wassat But was Libya ours ???
      Libya, Algeria and other African republics have nothing to do with us at the moment, other predators are spinning there, de facto colonial wars version 2.0 began with the same composition of participants.
      what will it all lead to soon find out :)
  50. 0
    19 January 2013 11: 08
    "One thing is clear for sure, after the attack on Iran, the Caucasus and Central Asia will immediately become a conflict zone without any intermediate stages. There is actually nothing new in this information, Russia needs to be prepared for such a development of events."


    You can’t argue with that! Yes
    let's hope we are ready!
  51. 416sd
    +2
    19 January 2013 12: 41
    The Azerbaijani portal Vesti.az discusses this article:

    The Russian magazine “Military Review” published an article entitled “Who is Azerbaijan going to fight with?”
    http://vesti.az/news/144529
    1. 320sd
      0
      19 January 2013 12: 59
      Not for the first time, by the way, ask Volodin)))))))
    2. 1033
      +2
      19 January 2013 15: 53
      bully Of course, not with Russia,,,,,,,,,
  52. Algor73
    +1
    19 January 2013 12: 47
    If a country has money, there are territorial claims, the country will arm itself. And the Barbarossa plan is not necessarily gentle. The current world is fragile
  53. His
    0
    19 January 2013 13: 23
    A good war is one in which you win.
    As you know, the legitimacy of the rulers of dwarf countries is not determined by their own people, especially countries with oil, or located on the dividing lines in geopolitics.
    Aliyev is following a long-established plan; he is just an executor and conductor of other people’s interests in access to the Caspian Sea. After all, Sukashvili also moved in a similar way. The Aliyev clan has no choice (or they will simply change it).
    There can be only one option for such a plan: a fleeting, quick seizure of the planned territory (until Russia wakes up). Subsequent rapid deployment of a peacekeeping contingent (ie NATO). At the same time, the UN will sing the praises of the United States.
    In connection with the existing bitter experience that was provided by Georgia, Russia’s actions must be extremely decisive; delays of many days, as was the case under Medvedev, are unacceptable. And the action plan must be prepared and calculated hourly in advance.
    1. Anna
      0
      19 January 2013 14: 24
      I agree with you!
    2. 416sd
      +2
      19 January 2013 14: 30
      We have our own interests and we don’t sing to anyone’s tune. If you continue to compare with Georgia, I will tear it to pieces; any argument, any argument has a thousand analogues in the Russian Federation! Only a favorable attitude towards your country keeps me from doing this... At least Aliyev’s police do not tear the flags of their country...
      1. His
        +1
        19 January 2013 16: 43
        Didn’t anyone teach you how to live together? Well, if you kill all the inhabitants of Nagorno-Karabakh, it will become easier for you.
        The Armenians have a lobby in the United States, and France will have more trouble. They forgot about the law on the Armenian genocide by Turkey, which was adopted in these countries. And Türkiye could not do anything against this. After this, it is not a fact that NATO will stand up for you.
        Don't joke with Russia. Russia needs peace on its external borders, and that’s it. All they ask you is to live in peace and harmony, make concessions to each other
        1. 416sd
          0
          19 January 2013 17: 23
          What does living together have to do with this? I would like to see how you would live in harmony with the Poles if they took control of Belarus and the Smolensk region. Why didn’t you live together with Dudayev, Basayev, etc. in the 1990s? Would you be able to live in harmony with separatists and terrorists? Why did they start “peeing in the toilet”? Do you remember territorial integrity? Don’t you think that you can get it again with the same crowbar in the same place? Will you live in peace and friendship with the Tatars if Kazan declares its independence?

          I have a good memory, I remember the law on “genocide”. I'll look at you when the same France and the USA pass a similar law on the Circassians in Russia. Abraham Shmulevich and Co. are already working in this direction... and there is no need to twist my words, I already wrote above who exactly is our enemy and that we are not talking about hatred of Armenians as a nation.

          Turkey could not do anything, and in its place no one could, not even Russia.

          Absolutely right - we need to make concessions. To do this, the Armenian Armed Forces must retreat from the five regions surrounding Karabakh, peacekeepers enter there and so on... All this was discussed, proposed, you just heard the ringing, you don’t know where it is, read about the Madrid principles, read about the Meindorff Declaration... Armenia is simply not in able to neither accept nor refuse because it doesn’t solve anything. We have nothing to concede - our territory is occupied, what else do we have to concede??! Disarm, stand doggy style and lubricate your butt with Vaseline?! You are welcome to Baku, is it yours too?! More than one or two officials in the Russian Federation called Armenia an outpost. Who should we talk to, the outpost or the owner of the outpost? If our territories were occupied by the owner of the outpost, then why does the author of the article (let me remind you where the discussion began) bring claims to Azerbaijan.

          Let me give you an example: when you fly to Yerevan, you will be pleasantly surprised (as a Russian) that at Zvartnots airport passport control is carried out by Russian military personnel. What can you expect from a country that doesn’t even control its own border?
          Russia is not interested in resolving the issue but in the status quo. Karabakh is an instrument of control for both Armenia and Azerbaijan. But this will not end well for the Russian Federation. They will lose both.

          As for the position of everyone in the discussion, the fact that we are Turks and Muslims plays an important role. Hit the wall, deny, give counter-arguments - but this is important. It was not important in Soviet times, then real interests were important. But in today's Russia this is important. That is why poor, starving Armenia, whose president goes around the world once a year asking for money, is an ally, but Azerbaijan, with 75% of the economy of the Caucasus, is not.
          1. 320sd
            0
            19 January 2013 20: 34
            Armenia is simply unable to accept or refuse because it decides nothing

            Only the problem is a little different. There is no peace on the line of contact between NKR and Azerbaijan today. Those. The Azerbaijani side is not ready to guarantee the non-use of weapons. The Azerbaijani side refuses to withdraw the snipers. The Azerbaijani side refuses to launch a mechanism for investigating the incidents. Only after the establishment of peace - guaranteed and inviolable - is it possible to continue the dialogue on the fate of the regions of Azerbaijan reintegrated by Artsakh.

            Last week I was in Yerevan. I haven’t seen any Russian border guards, even if it kills me. Legends again? The Russian FSB border department "Armenia" patrols the state border of Armenia with Turkey and Armenia with Iran. Zvartnots Airport is located in the Yerevan region.
            Apparently the Russian border guards are waiting for the Turks arriving on civilian aircraft, are they ready to finally resolve the “Armenian question”? ))))))))))))
            1. 416sd
              +1
              19 January 2013 22: 11
              on eat this:

              Rosgranitsa will assist Armenia in the modernization of border infrastructures

              Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan discussed on Wednesday with Dmitry Bezdelov, head of the Federal Agency for the Development of the State Border of the Russian Federation (Rosgranitsa), the issues of providing Rosgranitsa with assistance to the Armenian side in modernizing border infrastructures, the presidential press service reported.

              “During the meeting, issues related to assistance in the modernization of border infrastructures and checkpoints after the opening of the Rosgranitsa representative office in the republic and the development of cooperation with the Armenian representative were discussed,” the statement said.

              The parties noted with satisfaction that the Armenian-Russian relations in all areas - political, economic, humanitarian, as well as in the field of security, are at a high level and are developing dynamically.

              On November 9, Secretary of the National Security Council of Armenia Artur Baghdasaryan told reporters that Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on opening a Rosgranitsa representative office in Armenia. According to him, the decree was signed during the visit of the delegation of the Security Council of Armenia to Moscow in mid-October.

              Baghdasaryan added that the decree of the President of Russia will provide an opportunity to modernize the borders and strengthen the security of Armenia.

              The state border of Armenia with Turkey (330 kilometers) and Iran (45 kilometers) is guarded by Russian border guards. The Armenian leadership considers the presence of Russian border guards, along with the Russian military base, an important component of the national security of the republic. The basis for the current stay of Russian border guards here is an interstate agreement on the status of Russian border troops in the republic, concluded in Yerevan on September 30, 1992.

              The border department of the FSB of Russia in Armenia includes four border detachments - in Gyumri, Armavir, Artashat and Meghri, as well as a separate checkpoint at the Yerevan Zvartnots international airport. The maintenance of Russian border guards in Armenia (their number is about 4,5 thousand people) is provided by the governments of the two states approximately equally

              http://www.rosgranitsa.ru/ru/pressa/monitor/5671
              1. Beck
                -1
                20 January 2013 11: 28
                Quote: 416sd
                The state border of Armenia with Turkey (330 kilometers) and Iran (45 kilometers) is guarded by Russian border guards.


                There are many ambiguities in this border agreement between Russia and Armenia. “Armenian” Nagorno-Karabakh is an internationally recognized territorial entity that is not recognized by anyone. And the border agreement between Russia and Armenia should not concern Nagorno-Karabakh, according to the comment of 416 SD, it does not. Since there cannot be a military presence of third countries on this territory. Result. Even with the resumption of hostilities in Karabakh, Armenia cannot legally invoke the border agreement with Russia. And Russia, hiding behind this agreement, provides some kind of military assistance to the “Armenian” Karabakh.

                The border agreement should only be valid at internationally recognized borders.
                1. 416sd
                  -4
                  20 January 2013 12: 44
                  When I write about Iran, I wrote 45 km along the Meghri line, which does not include the border of Azerbaijan with Iran, which is occupied and now under the control of “NKR”. I agree with you.

                  By the way, Azerbaijan became ONE OF THE FIRST states in the CIS with which Russia completely delimited its borders and left no open questions.
          2. His
            +3
            19 January 2013 21: 17
            I can imagine if Russia (hypothetically) leaves the North Caucasus and internecine wars over borders will begin. Even now there was a conflict along the border of Chechnya and Ingushetia, although they are in the same state. And unfortunately you were brainwashed about the creation of the Ottoman Empire 2. But Turkey will fly by in this regard. But I think the people in Azerbaijan live in a different way. Otherwise, your heads of administration wouldn’t be smashed by a crowd
          3. aray
            -1
            20 January 2013 13: 59
            Quote: 416sd
            Why didn’t you live together with Dudayev, Basayev, etc. in the 1990s?

            But you were good friends))
            By the way, tell the forum members here what Basayev and Gelayev did in Karabakh, with their thugs? Maybe you can tell the truth? Or the Mujahideen from Afghanistan?
          4. aray
            -2
            20 January 2013 15: 07
            Quote: 416sd
            with the Tatars if Kazan declares its independence?

            Tatarstan is part of an independent state with borders recognized by all countries.
            But Karabakh was never part of independent Azerbaijan. Can you smell the difference? Karabakh was annexed to the Azerbaijani SSR by the Bolsheviks. You understand all this very well. And don’t compare Basayev and Dudayev (your national heroes) with the president of the independent NKR. This is stupid.

            Quote: 416sd
            We have nothing to concede - our territory is occupied, what else do we have to concede??! Disarm, stand doggy style and lubricate your butt with Vaseline?! You are welcome to Baku, is it yours too?!

            Don’t stir up hysteria. You’re right. We haven’t liberated all of our territories. So, we still have something to talk about heart to heart. Apart from the Karabakh topic. There’s also Nakhijevan (where you destroy our historical monuments, which are included in UNESCO as a heritage of humanity .Barbarians).You will still make concessions. Sure enough, make them wink
            1. 416sd
              0
              20 January 2013 23: 33
              Do you know Russian? laughing Do you generally understand what I wrote about the fact that Karabakh is not recognized by anyone, not even Armenia itself. Not to mention that the Russian Federation recognizes the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.
              1. Arinberry
                -1
                21 January 2013 00: 16
                Dear, the whole joke is that. that those countries that recognize your territorial integrity do so in fact))) in a word, no one specifically says that Karabakh was or will be part of your composition. You just want to hear it so much, so you listen. De jure, Artsakh left your membership before you recognized independence.
          5. Arinberry
            0
            21 January 2013 00: 20
            You forgot the phrase “the whole world knows”) A standard set of words from the Internet Askyar.
      2. Anna
        +1
        20 January 2013 12: 56
        http://www.armenianhouse.org/demoyan/turkey/ch9.html
        1. 416sd
          +1
          20 January 2013 13: 26
          Yes, you gored with your Demoyan
      3. aray
        0
        20 January 2013 13: 52
        It came out a little poorly, but you can tell the difference.
        Let me remind you that your flags are in a tractor bucket, this is in the city of Gazakh. Cleaning up after the festival. By the way, I took the screenshot from your website)))
        1. 416sd
          0
          20 January 2013 23: 35
          So what? By the way, this redneck was punished...
          And you have Kim Kardashian as a brand of the country, and for the whole world she is the most famous Armenian wink
          Ale, do you even remember what the discussion started about, or are your fingers already shaking in passion now and you’re going to compare cuisine, and sports, and who has the cleanest tap water in the world?
      4. Arinberry
        -2
        21 January 2013 00: 28
        You have fallen into the mode of a tolerant Azerbaijani fellow
        Should I post here everything about your state, led by dictator number 1? There cannot be a sovereign state when its oil is being pumped, even though it can’t kill itself. Moreover, you... think that you are so independent, and why, when your sultan threw a barrel at the BP, did they immediately bring him to his senses? It's as much as 8 billion who cheated you.
        Your agitprop quotes, fairy tales and phrases only work for you, probably due to the education of the population. I can't find any other reason. Regarding the army, since the beginning of the year 8 people have already died, has the demand for kidneys in the world increased or are there not enough petrodollars?
        1. 416sd
          0
          21 January 2013 00: 36
          It's getting thiiiiiiiice in the stands...
          Into a black list... am
    3. Arinberry
      0
      21 January 2013 00: 32
      Artsakh is so fortified that a quick capture is simply not possible. I'm not even talking about the capture in general, especially by Azerbaijan. They are broken on a psychological level, no matter how brave they are... In June 2012, they carried out sabotage, so our ordinary soldiers destroyed their special forces))) What are we talking about, anyway? We never underestimate the enemy, but facts are stubborn things!
      1. 416sd
        +1
        21 January 2013 00: 37
        I know ...
        And also - a particularly stubborn thing “Armenian facts”...
        You won't see this anymore, ignore...
  54. +2
    19 January 2013 13: 37


    It doesn't look too bad.


    Soon we will probably have to harness ourselves to the Armenians.
    1. aray
      +2
      20 January 2013 14: 35


      Quote: ramzes1776
      Soon we will probably have to harness ourselves to the Armenians.


      Basayev Shamil: “If someone fled from the battlefield with armored vehicles, he was a hero, because many abandoned the equipment.” ANS TV Baku.
      Is this really worth it?)))
      Eagles!)))
      1. 89sd
        +2
        20 January 2013 14: 45
        Ogly)))))))
        1. aray
          +2
          20 January 2013 14: 55
          By the way, the equipment at this parade is mainly Azerbaijani. They just repainted ours and changed the flag. They left us a lot as a gift when the claws were torn, together with Basayev and Gelayev at the head. Oh no, at the head of Safar Abiev. His pants weigh Stepanakert, in the military museum (also our trophy) laughing
          1. qazateci
            +4
            20 January 2013 23: 13
            Karabakh Armenians are de jure citizens of Azerbaijan and this is not surprising. We just have to wait for the return of the “prodigal sons” and we will accept them as fellow citizens...
            1. aray
              -1
              20 January 2013 23: 40
              Quote: qazeteci

              Karabakh Armenians are de jure citizens of Azerbaijan and this is not surprising. We just have to wait for the return of the “prodigal sons” and we will accept them as fellow citizens...

              Turn around, look at your broken backbone... did you see it?)
              It was your “de jure citizens who killed.” laughing
  55. i.xxx-1971
    0
    19 January 2013 17: 18
    They do not know how to fight, they are not fighters - they are traders. Look who is busy in the markets and draw a conclusion. It’s funny to watch how two pot-bellied authorities squeal, play to the crowd, but are both afraid to hit first and expect to be separated. Russian Vanya would have killed both of them during this time.
    1. 416sd
      0
      21 January 2013 00: 32
      Let the Russian Vanya not interfere while he is busy renovating the house, the roof is leaking, it’s a pity. nothing personal, Vanya is not my enemy, Vanya is not my friend.
  56. antando
    +1
    19 January 2013 17: 20
    Ya soglasen chto Rossiya ne slabaya gosudarstvo, no yest i TITANI v zemnom share, odno ya vam exactly skaju, let cherez 10-12 poydet obratniy otchet vremeni, v lyubom sluchaye te gosudarst kotoriye naxodyatca v sostave RF stanut suverennimi, tak kak pro ces idet, a idushiy proces ne vozmojno ostanavlivat, mojno lish zaderjivat i to na korotkiy promejutok!
    1. His
      +1
      19 January 2013 21: 31
      I can assure you that the process of decomposition of Russia has been stopped. There will only be consolidation. If Armenia is threatened with genocide, it will join Russia. The history of Russia is the gathering of lands, from the same internecine wars.
  57. +3
    19 January 2013 20: 33
    Technically, Azerbaijan is ready for war, ideological preparations are also underway.
    But Baku cannot make a decision to start a full-scale war without Washington’s permission. And after Obama’s re-election and the replacement of the leadership of the US Defense Ministry, it became clear that the start of large-scale military operations in the war zone was, at a minimum, postponed.
    Under these conditions, it can be predicted with high probability that there will not be a full-scale war between Azerbaijan and Armenia in 2013.
    1. His
      0
      19 January 2013 21: 33
      The war for Nagorno-Karabakh will be at the request of the United States. I think like a stage of creeping towards Iran. But Russia will ruin the plans, I’m sure of it. Putin rules
      1. +3
        20 January 2013 01: 45
        Vice versa . Azerbaijan is important to the United States as a springboard against Iran. Therefore, until the issue with Iran is resolved one way or another, Washington will not give the go-ahead for war in Nagorno-Karabakh. But after that, unfortunately, war is very likely.
        1. Beck
          +1
          20 January 2013 11: 06
          Quote: Odyssey
          Azerbaijan is important to the US as a springboard against Iran


          Well, why the ass is a revolver, if the ass is not a hooligan.

          Why does the United States need some kind of bridgehead in the form of Azerbaijan against Iran, who needs such an international headache. America, if the situation comes up, has five bridgeheads against Iran in the form of five fleets and another 11 bridgeheads in the form of 11 AUGs. This will be enough and above any roof.
          1. +1
            22 January 2013 00: 34
            Uh, don't tell me.
            The United States actually has quite enough military bases against Iran, but Americans are pragmatic people, they have the opportunity to infiltrate somewhere, and they infiltrate without a twinge of conscience.
            Especially if it is such a useful state as Azerbaijan
            a) It is possible to influence Iran through the factor of a national minority. Like Kurdistan in Iraq.
            b) Bridgehead in Transcaucasia.
            c) Large oil reserves.
            In general, it is a very valuable country.
            PS 5 fleets and 11 AUGs are not gathered in one place)
  58. antinon
    +2
    19 January 2013 21: 10
    The Turkish state sold $6,5 billion worth of gold to the Islamic Republic. According to Turkish Minister of Economy Zafer Caglayan, gold exports from Turkey to Iran increased by 2012% over the past 800. Ankara is forced to export gold to the Islamic Republic in exchange for energy. Turkey purchases more than 90% of its gas exports from Iran, approximately 10 billion cubic meters per year.
    Russia needs to do the same, abandon the dollar and sell oil and gas for gold.
  59. 0
    19 January 2013 22: 42
    This is the US’s backup plan, if Syria is not bent, they will untie it, Turkey will be harnessed, and then the rest of NATO will be there.
  60. 0
    20 January 2013 02: 04
    Masterzserg, I agree completely, and there-
    http://forum.topwar.ru/topic/3830-%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%8F-%D0%BC%D0
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  61. aray
    +1
    20 January 2013 14: 45


    Gentlemen Azerbaijanis!
    Stop being heroic on the Internet! Nobody takes your chatter seriously anymore. Your people have turned into trolls, ALL of them. laughing
    Be ashamed. Just tro-lo-lo. The man will show you with his deeds. 20 years of stinking and no progress. negative
    Believe me, we broke your back, we will break it again. Don’t even doubt it.))
  62. Arinberry
    -3
    20 January 2013 23: 42
    Friends, the fact that Azerbaijan is arming itself must be considered in geopolitical terms. Another question is in which direction it will shoot... but it will shoot in the direction they say. Let’s not forget who pumps oil there and how this influences the country’s politics. No matter how much the Azerbaijanis would like to appear here as an independent and powerful state. Alas, these are the times now... So those who will say where to shoot are definitely not in Russia or Azerbaijan..
    And I like how Azerbaijani users try to seem tolerant here... how facts are always distorted. Only more than 20 years have passed, and already they are at full speed against the Soviet troops, who killed poor Azerbaijanis on January 20 in Baku. This is about how the vector of politics is directed..
    I will say that at the moment, such a quantity of weapons is being purchased against Iran, possibly against the Russian Federation. If you analyze the list of purchased weapons. you will see that there is a lot of naval arsenal there.. Türkiye oversees all these purchases. Trains the military. The same Ramil Safarov was trained in Turkish Cyprus. By the way, I don’t understand the admiration our neighbors have for this matter, are you all really like that?
    1. 416sd
      0
      21 January 2013 00: 45
      Here, the distortion of facts by Armenians has been proven 111 times, from denying that there are Russian border guards at the border at the airport to the fact that the entire Armenian society is simply delighted with the Russians and the Russian state. both in the 20th century and in the 21st.

      I personally did not meet any interesting comments in this discussion, with the exception of 10-15 users. There were no Armenian comments there.

      Ramil Safarov is the same coin that you yourself have used all your life. All Freemasonry in Europe released your terrorists throughout the 20th century. Safarov is not a criminal. Safarov is a victim who committed a crime. He was driven to such a crime. Including behavior, examples of which were in this discussion. And we freed him in Budapest and brought him to Baku to hurt you! And you were hurt... Not for the last time.

      Return to the racist-fascist site Voskanapat.

      I think that the majority of Armenian users are ephemeral, which says a lot.
      1. 0
        23 January 2013 17: 23
        I would like the former fraternal Soviet republics to do without senseless bloodshed.
        Moreover, the military prospects of a strike on NKAO are extremely doubtful.
        The theater of military operations is there, mother, don’t worry. Zelenka, mountains, few roads, even fewer good roads, the territory is ready for defense. Yes, a dozen people there can easily stop a hundred, you just need to not let the airborne assault behind you.
        Well, you’ll reach the rocky Agdam road, but what’s next?
        No operational ideas are visible other than a strike along the Araks followed by a bend to the right.
        To break through the defense there, it is not the army of Azeybardzhan that is needed, but the army of the DPRK
        In general, peace to the world, no to war)).
        1. Rustem1000
          0
          24 January 2013 22: 44
          What about Nakhijevan? The borders with Armenia are long and impassable fronts do not exist, no matter how much they strengthen hi
          1. 0
            25 January 2013 23: 29
            Involve Nakhichevan?
            It makes sense that a strike towards Yerevan is possible there, and along the Araks towards your troops (although there is a mountain range there)
            But how can you create a large group of troops with heavy equipment?
            The message, as I understand it, is only by air?
            Quote: Rustem1000
            and there are no impassable fronts

            It doesn’t exist, but in order to quickly break through the front in NKAO you need to either have the strongest aviation (like the USA), or numerous and well-trained ground forces (like the DPRK, PRC, etc.)
            Well, or fight long enough.
            And all this, as far as I understand, is problematic for Azerbaijan.
            1. Rustem1000
              0
              27 January 2013 15: 39
              Nakhijevan is a side option.. In the direction of Yereven from Nakhijevan, if I’m not mistaken, there are no high mountains. How long will it take to fight? Prolonging the war is good for us; Armenia will not be able to withstand it economically.
    2. OTAKE
      +3
      21 January 2013 10: 29
      Dear, the Armenians should restore order in their own Armenia, and then take on Karabakh, otherwise, by God, in 20 years, Azerbaijan has changed considerably, but Armenia has remained the same as it was in the 90s.
      Artemy Lebedev: I imagined Yerevan as a beautiful, neat and prosperous city. But it turned out that it was a complete mess. There are as few details in the city as there were in any Soviet city. That is, as if civilization had not yet come here.


      Aka: Baku turned out to be an incredibly advanced city. I expected exclusively Central Asian low-rise buildings, but what I found was practically Dubai.
    3. Taron
      0
      22 January 2013 21: 49
      Be calm, we also arm ourselves, and no worse than the Azeris, but unlike them, we do our job silently and wisely, without fuss.
      1. OTAKE
        +3
        24 January 2013 09: 14
        Quote: Taron
        Be calm, we also arm ourselves, and no worse than the Azeris, but unlike them, we do our job silently and wisely, without fuss.

        I can argue about intelligence and silence, but I agree about the hype, there’s nothing to make much noise about) What about the super cure for AIDS developed by Armenian scientists? :) there was so much show-off about this, but in reality... they just decided to promote themselves, for example, of the latest new Armenian products, I only saw Comedy Club headed by Garik Martirosyan)

        A couple of photos from liberated Karabakh, a flourishing land! 20 years of stability! but silently and without showing off! HURRAY COMRADES!

  63. +4
    21 January 2013 13: 50
    Quote: OTAKE
    Aka: Baku turned out to be an incredibly advanced city. I expected exclusively Central Asian low-rise buildings, but what I found was practically Dubai.

    Your photo about Baku is already outdated. The buildings that are behind have already been built.
    Baku is changing a lot. Every year I go, something new.
    1. OTAKE
      +1
      22 January 2013 06: 19
      And this makes me happy :) that they are spending not only on weapons, but also on the well-being of citizens, and it looks good)
    2. Taron
      -1
      22 January 2013 21: 57
      Build to your heart’s content, I think you can catch up and overtake Dubai and also build artificial skeletons and a city in the eastern part of the Caspian Sea, next to Turkmenistan’s Krasnovodsk.
  64. +2
    22 January 2013 01: 48
    It is stupid to say that Azerbaijan wants to fight with Russia. Wrong weight category. Even the United States is currently not ready for war with the Russian Federation. But what’s really unfortunate is that the former Soviet republic is becoming a pawn in the game of Russia’s opponents. The nods towards the United States and Turkey are obvious. Russia is not yet pursuing a direct rapprochement with Iran only because agreed upon spheres of influence have not been determined. Iran, in principle, is also a competitor of the Russian Federation in this region. But if NATO’s efforts do not weaken, they (Russia and Iran) will have to agree to an alliance to survive. And then there will be an embargo on x.. Just imagine how the supply of several S300 divisions to Iran could change the balance of power in the region? Azerbaijan, having chosen the wrong policy, in this case may remain in a certain isolation.
    1. Eloghlu
      +1
      22 January 2013 08: 06
      Just imagine how the supply of several S300 divisions to Iran could change the balance of power in the region? Azerbaijan, having chosen the wrong policy, in this case may remain in a certain isolation.

      I assure you, nothing will change. No one in Iran will shoot in the direction of Azerbaijan, since, as noted above, the military-political elite there mainly consists of ethnic Turks (that is, Azerbaijanis). Likewise, in Azerbaijan, due to the fact that more than 30 million of our fellow tribesmen live there, they will not agree to the bombing of Iranian territory. And all this bravado is just for show.
  65. +1
    23 January 2013 00: 46
    Quote: Eloghlu
    I assure you, nothing will change. No one in Iran will shoot in the direction of Azerbaijan, since, as noted above, the military-political elite there mainly consists of ethnic Turks (that is, Azerbaijanis).

    I am not saying that Iran will ever bomb Azerbaijan, under no circumstances. The presence of the S300 will, to a certain extent, balance Iran in the “dialogue” with Israel and NATO. Azerbaijan is flirting with NATO and Israel, which in turn neither Russia nor Iran like. Turkey, with which Azerbaijan has quite warm relations, is a member of NATO and is directly opposed to Iran’s ally, Syria.
    Based on this, I just assume that Azerbaijan may be let down by a strong desire to resolve the Karabakh issue quickly and with the help of the “wrong friends.” Neither Iran nor Russia needs a solution to this issue in the near future, especially by military means. They are satisfied with the current status quo, and without this there are plenty of points of tension.
    Of course, one cannot agree that both Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Ahmoud are Azerbaijanis (and many others at the top of Iran too), but this does not give Azerbaijan significant 100% immunity
    Moreover, it is more profitable for Iran to accuse, for example, the leadership of Azerbaijan of some kind of conspiracy with Israel that is harmful to Muslims and call on (not officially in the best traditions of the Arab Spring) the Shiite brothers to overthrow the traitors. Well, and subsequently make most of Azerbaijan part of Iran.
    1. Eloghlu
      +2
      25 January 2013 08: 04
      Ahmadinejad is not Azerbaijani.. The fact that Iran and Russia do not like Azerbaijan’s flirting with the West is their own fault. I understand Iran - they are afraid of the strengthening of Azerbaijan, since a strong Azerbaijan is unprofitable for them in view of the fact that an awakening has already begun among ethnic Azerbaijanis there. But I can’t understand Russia - if she were friends with us and did not rely on us and not with her appendage in the South Caucasus, it would be a little more profitable for her. The saying divide and conquer does not apply here. Russia has much more in common with the Turkic world than with the same Armenians. And from an alliance (not great power ambitions) with us (Azerbaijan, Turkey and the countries of Central Asia) it would receive much more dividends - both political and economic.
  66. 0
    24 January 2013 16: 09
    In this situation, with the desire of AZ politicians for the collapse of Russia, we can knock out a wedge with a wedge. Russia does not like the Aliyev regime. Perhaps Mr. Aliyev himself will end up in the hole he dug.
  67. Rustem1000
    0
    24 January 2013 22: 35
    In his opinion, “the collapse of Russia will help Azerbaijan restore its territorial integrity” without a war with Armenia, since Yerevan’s resistance in this case will be meaningless. This is correct, but I don’t think Azerbaijan really wants this request
  68. 0
    25 January 2013 00: 57
    I am more than sure that Aliyev will be smarter than Saakashvili and will not take an adventure.
    I’m wondering if the Armenians would agree to give up Karabakh if ​​they were promised Ararat in return? The idea is crazy at first glance, but...
    Who surrounds Turkey? In the south are Syria and the Iraqi Kurds, in the west are Armenia, Georgia and Iran, in the east are Greece and Bulgaria, in the north, across the Black Sea, are Russia and Ukraine. Which of them can Türkiye consider its friend? Maybe Georgia, and even then Saakashvili is there. The rest have enough complaints and old bills against her. Turkey, of course, is not Georgia; the West could only bark at the separation of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and nothing more, but nevertheless, it can simply sit down and agree on such a scenario... I mean Ararat in Karabakh?
    1. OTAKE
      +1
      25 January 2013 05: 59
      Ararat is a mountain, and people live in Karabakh, if for Armenians a certain “brand” of a mountain is more important, then everything is really sad)
    2. Taron
      0
      25 January 2013 09: 47
      By decision of the Government of Turkey, on November 29, 2018, the city of Tbilisi will be renamed to Keshishkhana, and the name of the former state entity Georgia to Gurjistan. In connection with this great event, festive events will be held in all cities of Gurjistan.
  69. Taron
    0
    25 January 2013 09: 42
    Currently, Azerbaijani pseudoscientists are spreading the myth that they are supposedly descendants of the Iranian Safavids. Recently, they have just as successfully declared that they are descendants of Caucasian Albania. I am afraid that they will soon announce that the Bazarbaijans are the descendants of the African Zulus and the whole of central Africa is their Ancestor Home. In fact, in the Middle Ages, many peoples intersected in the current Azerbaijani territories. Such as Gerechis, Padars, Shahsevenis, Karapapakhs, Javanshirs, Tatars, Kalmyks, Kumyks, Nogais, Jaghatais, Kurds, Putlukhs and ...... others
  70. Husseyn
    +2
    2 March 2013 01: 41
    Wow, sometimes it’s useful not to go in and read :)))

    Azerbaijan has separatists, a kind of Chechnya, by the way, it’s very similar, almost one to one, with the only difference being that Chechens are bad or good on their land, and the same parsley - riffraff from all over the world, explosions of buses, trains, houses, metro. Almost 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan is under the control of the separatists, so it is arming itself.
    The fact is that Azerbaijan is already superior to both the separatists in the NKR and Armenia standing behind them, in all respects, it is also a fact that if a war happens, Azerbaijan will liberate the occupied territories, BUT it is not a fact that Azerbaijan will even have the opportunity to start a war :)
    In theory, nothing is stopping us, we need to start and finish, but this requires will, political will to send everyone to...
    Comparing Azerbaijan with Georgia is not entirely correct and appropriate; hoping that Azerbaijan is weak due to internal political problems is also stupid. I'll explain below.

    There is one more circumstance. If hostilities begin against Iran, Russia will try to enter the territory of Azerbaijan in order to push the conflict away from its borders, since Azerbaijan will obviously be overwhelmed by refugees, etc. Whatever the reason, your neighbor is going to show up to you without an invitation, you are unlikely to like it, and Azerbaijan will apparently have to be “friends” against such intentions, for example, as an option, agreeing to the temporary transit deployment of part of the contingent of NATO troops withdrawn from Afghanistan, if there will be no other left... Russia is nearby, and these are far away, sooner or later they will leave, well, in extreme cases, they will leave the base, and if Russia comes in, then it’s like a mother-in-law, let them go once, then you’ll get rid of them :), that is, in fact, there will be another occupation and for a long time, especially if they put puppets in prison.

    Much has been said about the internal political problems of Azerbaijan, or rather, let’s talk without hesitation about who rules and how they rule. Sorry, look in the mirror, Ilgam is the same Vova, albeit not to the fullest in the spirit of Stalin, but both are in fact dictators. Everyone understands this among the population in Azerbaijan, it is clear that not everyone likes it 100%, but the fact is that it is better to have your own and relatively independent dictator than someone else’s puppet. After all, since the elder Aliyev came to power, Azerbaijan has been pursuing a sufficiently independent policy, relative to its size and capabilities, and does not lie under anyone, like a port girl. So, why should I and many others hate the current President and experience some kind of weakness and disunity, which they gossiped about here, there is no reason, and there is also no reason not to follow him to fight as the Commander-in-Chief. On the contrary, if a war breaks out, I think Ilham Aliyev will do an excellent job of managing the state during the war period, and many times better than the opposition or, especially, a puppet from Moscow, Washington, or at worst Istanbul. All citizens of Azerbaijan understand this perfectly well, despite all the problems associated with localism inherent in all Azerbaijanis, corruption, etc.

    SADVAL is a blurred map... People are fleeing and cannot live peacefully in Dagestan, where every day there is a special operation and explosions, and murders, and in the North of Azerbaijan, everyone understands perfectly well the delights of life in the current South of the Russian Federation. It is clear that Russia will try to put pressure on Azerbaijan in this way, but this is no longer an argument with the same force as before.

    And finally, the simplest and most obvious thing, Russia adopted a rearmament program and began to get rid of old stuff. Azerbaijan, at one time, scooped up everything it could get, just so that it wouldn’t have to brush off Berdan guns again, it also needs to change weapons and switch to more modern models. That is, in parallel with the build-up, rearmament or modernization is also taking place. It is clear now that everything is there to cope with the Armenians, but in terms of quality it is rubbish from the very beginning, and life does not stand still. For example, at one time they collected T-55 - T-62, now everything is in reserve, and they will be replaced by T-72 - T-90. That's all - “elementary Watson”...
  71. +1
    26 July 2013 23: 34
    the most important thing is that if Russia considered Azerbaijan its enemy, believe me, no one would even sell us a cartridge!! loot is loot, but principles are principles!
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  73. Anti
    0
    26 July 2013 23: 56
    No, the Armenians will be offended that Azerbaijan was the first to write.
  74. Anti
    +1
    26 July 2013 23: 56
    Far away Armenian-Azerbaijani imperialism! winked
  75. ed65b
    0
    27 July 2013 00: 28
    Provocateurs of all countries unite. laughing
  76. Anti
    +1
    27 July 2013 00: 37
    Who are you? Let's goodbye! laughing
  77. lezgin
    -1
    24 January 2014 04: 32
    The 150 thousand people of Karabakh defeated the 10 million rich Azerbaijan, Heydar Aliyev begged for mercy on his knees... and Ilham Aliyev completely deserted - it’s strange that you think that Azerbaijan can attack Russia. This is how the Aliyev clan makes money - they bought one tank.... they capitalized a hundred
    1. 0
      11 February 2015 03: 27
      oy oy oy kakoy skazka golodniy dashnak wink

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“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"