“There is no war plan for 2024”: People’s Deputy from Zelensky’s party called on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny to resign

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“There is no war plan for 2024”: People’s Deputy from Zelensky’s party called on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny to resign

The commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Valery Zaluzhny, was forced to resign because he does not have a war plan for the next year. This was stated by MP from Zelensky’s Servant of the People party Maryana Bezuglaya.

The people's deputy in the Verkhovna Rada holds the post of deputy head of the Verkhovna Rada for national security and defense, so he is constantly “in discussion” with the Ukrainian military. This time she decided to dismiss Zaluzhny, saying that he did not have a combat plan for the next year. According to her, the commander-in-chief only knows how to ask for mobilized people and nothing else.



Yes, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was unable to provide a plan for 2024. Neither big nor small, neither asymmetrical nor symmetrical. The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month

- said Bezuglaya, adding that the problem has been brewing since the summer of this year.

The People's Deputy noted that the Verkhovna Rada still does not know what to allocate funds for, since there are no plans or vision for a further war with Russia. Whether new brigades will be organized or the old ones will be supplemented, since these are completely different means, the new ones will be more expensive. There are no plans for mobilization, but there are demands to send as many people as possible to the front line.

(...) the situation now is that if the military leadership cannot present any idea for 2024, and all their proposals for mobilization boil down to the fact that more people are needed without the slightest proposal for changes to the Armed Forces of Ukraine system, then such leadership must leave

- she emphasized.

In Ukraine they have already stated that Bezuglaya is acting with the permission of Zelensky, who has a conflict with Zaluzhny. The head of the Kyiv junta needs to remove the commander-in-chief, having lost his position, Zaluzhny will automatically disappear from the political scene.
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  1. +13
    26 November 2023 20: 10
    In principle, what difference does it make who will convey the instructions of the owners, all the same, more or less significant decisions are made by the NATO operational headquarters.....by the way, for a Married person this is not the worst situation - he has raked in the money and can go to the EU as a citizen of Europe, especially since the property is already there bought it. And here you are, f..oh, drowning further for Ukraine..
    1. Msi
      -19
      26 November 2023 20: 35
      The commander-in-chief only knows how to ask for the mobilized and nothing more.

      The generals of the Armed Forces are idiots and only know how to fight by throwing meat at the enemy...
      1. +7
        26 November 2023 20: 39
        The lower limit of 20 thousand speaks volumes about the real state of affairs. There is no waste, in general.
        1. 0
          26 November 2023 20: 51
          the military leadership of Ukraine cannot imagine any ideas on 2024 year

          winked — In India, a python dined on a drunken Hindu...
          — Interesting idea for an anti-alcohol company.
          1. +8
            26 November 2023 21: 05
            People's Deputy from Zelensky's party called on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny to resign

            The saucepan-headed Ukrainian “unsparing” Ukraine from the United States in Zelensky’s party does not understand that Zaluzhny is a creature of the United States in the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and whatever decision the Pentagon gives him, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will carry out!
            1. +4
              26 November 2023 23: 43
              Quote: Tatiana
              Zaluzhny is a creature of the United States in the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and whatever decision the Pentagon gives him, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will carry out!

              What plans for next year can Zaluzhny talk about if the United States ordered a defensive stand, withdraws troops from Avdeevka and builds a new line of defense in the Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkov regions. If supplies and funding are curtailed, and all the US dreams are only about achieving some kind of truce... what plan can Zaluzhny propose?
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      2. +11
        26 November 2023 20: 56
        Considering your opponent a cretin is already a mistake. They shoot and kill, how many civilians and others have already been killed? And gravelization is only gaining momentum. It is no longer legal to resist illegal capture. Will you then have to buy a coffin before sending it?
        1. +1
          26 November 2023 23: 17
          Yes, a person lives in an alternative reality. The war is already in its second year, the situation is difficult on the front line, and his enemy is alcoholics and drug addicts, the generals are stupid people
      3. -1
        26 November 2023 23: 19
        You're really making me nervous now. You were there on the front line, do you know how they fight? How do you know this, indoor warrior? The further from the front line, the more heroes and brave people there are.
        1. Msi
          +1
          27 November 2023 05: 43
          You're already really making me nervous. You were there on the front line, do you know how they fight?

          “They really love piglets and corncobs”... A real warrior... lol there is no need for great intelligence to fight and throw people to slaughter...
          Oh, how you don’t like Zaluzhny’s criticism, my little pigs... laughing
    2. +7
      26 November 2023 20: 55
      Yes, no one has decided anything there for a long time. All political and military decisions are dictated from behind a big puddle. If Zaluzhny didn’t suit them, they would have changed them immediately without hesitation. soldier
      1. +4
        26 November 2023 22: 13
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        All political and military decisions are dictated from behind a big puddle. If Zaluzhny didn’t suit them, they would have changed them immediately without hesitation.

        Zaluzhny - it seems not a surname, but a nickname according to his affiliation.
    3. +1
      27 November 2023 13: 18
      There is a difference. Zelensky is threatened with the Maidan when he is removed. Moreover, it is quite realistic, since these individuals are supported by the West. But they shook off the paper from Zaluzhny - 20 thousand needed mobilized per month. Considering that supplies will not increase, these are the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces per month. Today, 13% of this number is supplied. that is, approximately 2,6 thousand. Now we can calculate irrecoverable losses more accurately.
  2. +10
    26 November 2023 20: 11
    The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month

    How come there is no plan? This is the plan for the denazification of Ukraine.
  3. +2
    26 November 2023 20: 13
    “There is no war plan for 2024”: People’s Deputy from Zelensky’s party called on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny to resign


    And what kind of war plan can there be without proper supplies and the absence of the same shells? Without trained personnel? There is only one - to fight with the help of a numerical advantage of personnel and new waves of mobilization.

    Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny must resign, because it does not have a war plan for next year. About it said MP from Zelensky's Servant of the People party Maryana Bezuglaya.


    Zelensky, through Bezugla, asked Zaluzhny to leave on good terms and in good health.
  4. +2
    26 November 2023 20: 22
    A good photo of Zaluzhny...) Against the background of a painting. The eternal feeling of inferiority is compensated by the protrusion of a “craving for culture.”
    1. Msi
      +2
      26 November 2023 20: 39
      The eternal feeling of inferiority is compensated by the protrusion of a “craving for culture.”

      Subtly noted... lol
      1. +6
        26 November 2023 20: 55
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        A good photo of Zaluzhny...) Against the background of a painting. The eternal feeling of inferiority is compensated by the protrusion of a “craving for culture.”

        Quote from Msi
        The eternal feeling of inferiority is compensated by the protrusion of a “craving for culture.”

        Subtly noted... lol

        Adolf Hitler was also a creative artist. One jaw remains.
        1. 0
          27 November 2023 07: 13
          The Vienna Academy did not seem to appreciate his daub. And Adik received an inferiority complex.
    2. SSR
      +1
      26 November 2023 22: 55
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      A good photo of Zaluzhny...) Against the background of a painting. The eternal feeling of inferiority is compensated by the protrusion of a “craving for culture.”

      There are also green men with Master Yoda's ears behind the monitor.)))
  5. +1
    26 November 2023 20: 24
    but there are demands to send as many people as possible to the front line.

    How will the gene pool be restored???
    1. +6
      26 November 2023 20: 58
      Quote from stelltok
      but there are demands to send as many people as possible to the front line.

      How will the gene pool be restored???

      Did they actually have this common gene pool? winked
      1. -2
        26 November 2023 21: 27
        Did they actually have this common gene pool?

        Well, there are a lot of Ukrainians available now. And who will they be...? winked If many men are no longer there.
        We could have negotiated and all this would not have happened.
        1. 0
          26 November 2023 22: 19
          Quote from stelltok
          Well, there are a lot of Ukrainians available now. And who will they be...? If many men are no longer there.
          We could have negotiated and all this would not have happened.

          Insemination as a point of negotiation. good
  6. +5
    26 November 2023 20: 27
    because he has no war plan for next year. This was stated by MP from Zelensky’s Servant of the People party Maryana Bezuglaya.

    But in general, if we put aside our likes and dislikes, what kind of nonsense is this about the initiation of the Rada trade unionists into military action plans?!
    1. +3
      26 November 2023 21: 01
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      But in general, if we put aside our likes and dislikes, what kind of nonsense is this about the initiation of the Rada trade unionists into military action plans?!

      Who then will allocate and approve the budget for the Ministry of Defense? Not on its own.
      Everything has been debugged for a long time. Relevant documents are presented, the disclosure of information about which is punishable by law... well, etc.
      1. -1
        26 November 2023 21: 43
        Quote: Clear
        Everything has been debugged for a long time. Relevant documents are presented, the disclosure of information about which is punishable by law... well, etc.

        Is this banter or do you really not understand how it works?
        Quote: Clear
        Who then will allocate and approve the budget for the Ministry of Defense? Not on its own.

        in such situations, they are allocated under closed articles, but for the sake of truth, during the war, all powers should be transferred to a separate body
        Quote: Clear
        disclosure of information about which is punishable by law... well, etc.

        It’s easier for counterintelligence officers to shoot themselves than to try to maintain secrecy in such conditions
  7. +3
    26 November 2023 20: 29
    The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month

    - said Bezuglaya, adding that the problem has been brewing since the summer of this year.


    Here you go. And someone wondered about dry losses. The stupid woman revealed the average deadweight loss. request
    1. +2
      26 November 2023 21: 03
      Quote: Former soldier
      The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month

      - said Bezuglaya, adding that the problem has been brewing since the summer of this year.


      Here you go. And someone wondered about dry losses. The stupid woman revealed the average deadweight loss. request

      It's obvious that it is Yes
    2. -1
      27 November 2023 01: 10
      The irrevocable are not necessarily the dead. These include prisoners and those discharged due to injury or illness. In addition, you need to take into account that some wounded take a long time to recover, they need to be replaced - and how many of these 20 thousand go on rotation - the war has been going on for 20 months, there are probably rotations, and they also require people. And it’s not clear how average they are for the entire war
  8. +1
    26 November 2023 20: 38
    But why resign? He could very well lead a platoon into a meat assault. Well, at least once...
    1. +2
      26 November 2023 21: 05
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      But why resign? He could very well lead a platoon into a meat assault. Well, at least once...

      Even if you want to, it won't work more than once. No.
  9. -1
    26 November 2023 20: 40
    Si la traduction est exacte il est interior que Zaloujny fait état d'un besoin de 20000 nouvelles recrues par ...mois!
    Est ce pour compenser une perte moyenne journalière de 657 soldats?
    Si Zaloujny n'a pas de plan pour 2024 c'est peut être qu'il est bien placé pour savoir l'état de ses troupes ...Alors à quoi bon prévoir l'irréalisable ?
  10. +4
    26 November 2023 20: 43
    In Ukraine they have already stated that Bezuglaya is acting with the permission of Zelensky, who has a conflict with Zaluzhny.

    I’ll throw some wood into the flaring fire.
    Bezuglaya says correctly, Zelensky provided Zaluzhny with all his wishes in the form of weapons, mobresources, finance, technical equipment... he traveled and begged all over the world, and Zaluzhny squandered everything on our minefields and the first line of defense...
    Mess!
    am Drive him away Zelensky in three necks!
    1. +2
      26 November 2023 21: 49
      Quote: Clear
      Drive him away Zelensky in three necks!

      It’s hard to argue here, the fewer intelligent specialists in the military leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the better
      ideally like this:

      Or so:
      1. +2
        26 November 2023 23: 39
        “What Lenya, are you a king? You’re an asshole! Stop, listen to what mom says.” laughing laughing
  11. +2
    26 November 2023 21: 02
    This Bezuglaya has a nickname in the country, Mad! I watched her performance, and there was an imprint of some kind of developmental delay on her face, so the critic is talking nonsense! Although this is the norm there, it’s good that at least it’s not violent! It would be better to think about what and with whom to fight, that’s the whole plan! Zaluzhny is not stupid, and understands perfectly well that due to the military situation they are sliding into Somalia!
  12. 0
    26 November 2023 21: 05
    The main thing is to get involved in battle, and then the war will show the plan
  13. -2
    26 November 2023 21: 11
    What do you mean no plan? The plan is excellent - processing the Sumerians into fertilizers.
  14. 0
    26 November 2023 21: 20
    People's Deputy from Zelensky's party called on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny to resign

    He will not leave voluntarily, but he may be sent into retirement, like many other generals.
    1. +1
      26 November 2023 21: 55
      Over the past week, it has been written 5 times a day that they want to remove (in different senses) Zelensky..))
      And here it’s the other way around..))
  15. +1
    26 November 2023 21: 22
    “There is no war plan for 2024”: People’s Deputy from Zelensky’s party called on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Zaluzhny to resign
    Come on, people's deputies are just as much talker birds as many other people.
  16. -2
    26 November 2023 21: 23
    No plan? But there was! But there was!
  17. -1
    26 November 2023 21: 39
    A good opportunity for Russia now to get rid of Zaluzhny is for Shoigu or Gerasimov to come out and call him a strong and worthy opponent, by fighting with whom the RF Armed Forces learn and become stronger. Yes
  18. +4
    26 November 2023 21: 43
    Apparently we don't have a plan either. Then the contracts were extended to 50
    . Now they have announced up to 65. It’s cool to look at the infantry after 59 wassat laughingLike in the movies . Can not hear anything. I don't really see anything. My arms and legs are shaking due to arthrosis. but there is infantry. This is a massacre. Will they give you a medal automatically? For services to the pension fund? And for the fact that he died of heart failure, the hero is a possible pensioner. bully lolPutin does not sign the end of mobilization in writing. Make fun of it until the end!
    1. +2
      26 November 2023 22: 13
      Apparently we don't have a plan either.


      Eat! This is an absolutely brilliant plan - sit everyone out.
      Sit out Bidon and wait for Trump.
      Wait out Macron and hold out for Le Pen.
      Sit out Scholz and wait for Wagenknecht.
      And so on down the list all the countries unfriendly to us...
      1. -3
        26 November 2023 22: 30
        Dear mother. Save and preserve. This is reality.
      2. -1
        26 November 2023 22: 34
        This already smacks of Brodsky)
        1. -3
          26 November 2023 22: 57
          Don't leave the room! On the street, tea, not France.
      3. 0
        27 November 2023 01: 14
        Sit out Bidon and wait for Trump.

        Trump was already there. They drank champagne for him in the Duma, if I’m not mistaken. But it didn't do anything.
  19. +1
    26 November 2023 21: 53
    The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month


    I think this is precisely the real loss of Ukraine in terms of killed and wounded..
    And then recently it was written about more than a few lams..))
    1. -3
      26 November 2023 21: 55
      We're in a circle... pensioners and cripples are being tossed around. Who has it better? Who doesn’t believe. Sign the contract. You'll be offended by the State Duma. Give me money until you're 65 for a contract in the army. Otherwise it’s kind of boring. No money laughing lolThis is a complete paragraph!. It’s like hating your own country in order to completely discredit the voluntary movement and contract service with open-ended contracts.
  20. 0
    26 November 2023 23: 24
    Yes, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was unable to provide a plan for 2024. Neither big nor small, neither asymmetrical nor symmetrical. The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month

    - said Bezuglaya, adding that the problem has been brewing since the summer of this year.
    Deputies from the Verkhovna Rada are praying more than ever for the good and happiness of their people, usually American and Canadian. Bezugla did a good job especially about “taking away”... winked
  21. +2
    27 November 2023 00: 53
    Very interesting. In our country, for example, the tasks of the General Staff and the Defense Ministry are set by the political leadership; based on the tasks of the General Staff, they draw up plans of operations, calculate the orders of forces and means, and demand that the Defense Ministry provide what is necessary.
    Here, it turns out, the “servants of the people” sign that Zaluzhny himself makes decisions - how he should fight, with whom he should fight. He looks like some kind of Albrecht von Wallenstein.
  22. 0
    27 November 2023 00: 55
    Quote: Scuderia
    The military simply said that they need to take away at least 20 thousand citizens per month


    I think this is precisely the real loss of Ukraine in terms of killed and wounded..
    And then recently it was written about more than a few lams..))

    Well, the Moscow Region is talking about 350k for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Looks like it's true.
  23. 0
    27 November 2023 02: 30
    So Zaluzhny must have a plan, but Zelya doesn’t have to? If I were Zelie, I would organize elections, and also do everything to lose them. There would be a chance to save my skin.
  24. IVZ
    0
    27 November 2023 06: 26
    The head of the Kyiv junta needs to remove the commander-in-chief, having lost his position, Zaluzhny will automatically disappear from the political scene.
    It would be nice. Still, Zaluzhny is a military general with experience and signs of adequacy. Regarding disappearance from politics, this is unlikely. Let us remember Arestovich, which means there will be more poison in the ball. And the overseas owner will most likely be dissatisfied. In general, this action will not be for the benefit of this gang.
  25. 0
    27 November 2023 09: 22
    In the conditions of Ukraine, what plans might there be? There is only one plan - we attack