“Capable of shooting while moving”: The Ukrainian Armed Forces are awaiting deliveries of the RCH 155 self-propelled gun

The Kiev regime, living off Western aid, is awaiting deliveries of RCH 155 self-propelled howitzers from Germany. The official launch of their production for the Armed Forces of Ukraine took place in January of this year. In total, the German authorities promised to pay for the production of 18 self-propelled guns for Kyiv. This is a new system and the APU should be its first user. However, the deadline for their transfer was significantly delayed.

The RCH 155 is a wheeled self-propelled gun with a firing range of more than 40 km, and in the case of using special ammunition such as Excalibur or Rheinmetall Assegai V-LAP, this distance exceeds 50 km. The rate of fire is 9 rounds per minute, the ammunition supply is 30 shells. The power unit is represented by an MTU V8 199te20 21 engine with a power of 815 hp, which allows you to move at a maximum speed of 100 km/h.

If earlier the manufacturer, the KNDS company, announced plans to begin shipping self-propelled guns to the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the first quarter of 2024, now we are talking about the end of next year. Apparently, this delay is caused by the completion of the self-propelled gun.

As indicated in the Meta-defense publication, the RCH 155 should provide artillery support, being in a single battle formation with light mechanized units using the Boxer 8x8 wheeled armored vehicle - the self-propelled gun is based on a similar platform.

The RCH 155 has limited mobility due to its weight of approximately 40 tons. To compensate for this shortcoming, German engineers equipped the self-propelled gun with very advanced functions.

The self-propelled gun is capable of conducting accurate fire even while moving, which is a unique characteristic for artillery systems today

- says the publication.

However, the introduction of sophisticated technologies has led to a more labor-intensive development process. Apparently, the technical problems accompanying the project were precisely the reason why the delivery deadlines for the RCH 155 for the needs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were delayed.

Comments

[Sergey3]

A good, high-quality target for a lancet!

[Fedor Sokolov]

You need to have time to detect it, and then also fly. Conducting counter-battery combat against long-range mobile artillery systems is very problematic; they just drove up, fired ammunition at the target, retreated and looked for the wind in the field.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

At a minimum, our designers have something to compare with. The Wheel Coalition is in doubt. The Malva presented to the public is cheaper, but technically inferior. We need to look for a compromise.

[Viktor Sergeev]

What to look up to? Wheeled vehicles are almost pointless in a real war, although in certain areas where there are roads, they will work just like an armored train.

[Darkdimon]

Patency? Do you take this criterion by the standards of wheeled vehicles from the Second World War? So all armored personnel carriers and cargo transport are useless? Should they all be put on tracks? Let me remind you that Kevlar was invented when they were looking for a light but strong fiber that would be used in tires, that is, armored personnel carrier tires are quite stable. There is a system for centralized tire pressure regulation (see ZIL-157 as an example). And no one canceled all-wheel drive.

[opuonmed]

does not destroy the rear of the Russian Federation throughout the Ukrainian Reich completely arrived along the highway fired drove off 10 km fired something like this probably

[Alex777]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

You need to have time to detect it, and then also fly. Conducting counter-battery combat against long-range mobile artillery systems is very problematic

Yes. Unless there are reconnaissance signals hanging in the air
drones and loitering munitions.
I believe that our Lancet 53 will be finished faster than
The Germans will finish their howitzers. Then we'll see.

[ASM]

The ability to shoot on the move does not mean hitting. There is such a stick hanging in front that no gyroscopes inside the body can stop its vibrations. You can reduce gun vibrations, but this is important for tanks that fight at short distances. For a SAU that can shoot for tens of kilometers, the target coordinates and the location of the barrel are absolutely clear to the calculation. There will be scattering on the move, mother, don’t worry.

[Bolt cutter]

there will be scattering as we go

Projectiles on satellites are adjusted.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Do you believe in this? A similar American projectile costs about $100 (for 000) and even in this case, you still need to shoot at the target, the projectile is not a rocket.

[Bolt cutter]

Do you believe in this?

In your opinion, their disembodied spirit of the second avatar of Ganesha puts them in the target ? .

[Bad_gr]

Quote from A.S.M.

The ability to shoot on the move does not mean hitting.

If you shoot at the city, it will hit somewhere. Installation of a stabilizer on this BM is optional and must be ordered separately. And without a stabilizer it will be like in this video: the barrel will chatter depending on the unevenness on the road, and there can be no talk of any accurate shooting on the move.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

In your opinion, is it the disembodied spirit of the second avatar of Ganesha that puts them in the target? .

Does the projectile have its own engine and communications? And how much does such a projectile cost?

[IVZ]

The ability to shoot on the move does not mean hitting.

The self-propelled gun is capable of leading accurate fire even while moving

Gyroscopes are just position sensors, they don't stop any vibrations.

[km-21]

Quote from A.S.M.

The ability to shoot on the move does not mean hitting.

If you shoot while moving, you may or may not hit.
And if you don’t shoot, then you definitely won’t hit.

[Vladimir 290]

I completely agree, you just forgot to add: what price does such an option add and + the complexity of the design and an increase in the likelihood of breakdown + the need for serious crew training. Well, is shooting self-propelled guns on the move worth all these problems, or is it better to order 6 pieces for this price? without this option?

[Ronino]

Wish them a shift to the right...

[Nord11]

Are there coffee makers and a microwave for rations? If it’s nema, then the boys won’t approve, take it straight away for revision..

[dmi.pris1]

The Germans, as always, are in their repertoire. They design and produce limited editions of complex military equipment. Not repairable, even in the rear. However, the sample is interesting, although somewhat ridiculous in appearance

[uav80]

The Boshis planned to purchase 2026 RCH 2031 units from 168 to 155, but due to a lack of funds in the budget, the quantity decreased by 3 times. The RCH 155 does not replace the PzH 2000, but will complement it as a more mobile vehicle. In addition, it is cheaper since it is built on a single universal platform from GTK Boxer...

[lynnot]

From the looks of it, the ship's turret was screwed to the Boxer. If the Boxer has a height of approximately 2,3 meters, then with such a stray he will gain all 4. Apparently, that’s why they also added remote control for her to work from positions. If it works on the fly at extreme distances, it will be a harmful thing. You'll have to exert yourself.

[cosmonaut]

For some reason I remembered some old film where an armored train is flying, on it are Red Army soldiers with heroic faces looking into the distance, and guns are shooting in all directions... probably not bad technology. But 40 tons on wheels... roads in the field are not always like that like in this movie. It would be more logical to do it on tracks

[Escariot]

Quote: cosmonaft

For some reason I remembered some old film where an armored train is flying, on it are Red Army soldiers with heroic faces looking into the distance, and guns are shooting in all directions... probably not bad technology. But 40 tons on wheels... roads in the field are not always like that like in this movie. It would be more logical to do it on tracks

Artillery needs tracks primarily to keep up with tanks during large mechanized breakthroughs over tens of kilometers, and they are not expected in the near future. But for battles on a static front in Ukraine there are enough roads and it will probably be possible to find a shooting position at 40 km.

[Viktor Sergeev]

The question is not whether it is capable or not, but where will it end up? Any movement of a millimeter will give a deviation of tens of meters, but on earth it is tens of centimeters. Although if the goal of the self-propelled gun is to escape, then it is a wonderful car, it drives, hits wherever it hits and runs away.

[Revolver]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

The question is not whether it is capable or not, but where will it end up? Any movement of a millimeter will give a deviation of tens of meters, but on earth it is tens of centimeters. Although if the goal of the self-propelled gun is to escape, then it is a wonderful car, it drives, hits wherever it hits and runs away.

The question is what to shoot and at what target. If you supposedly make Donetsk a nightmare, then “dumb” ammunition will do, the target is not small, it will hit somewhere. And if there is something that requires a QUO of meters, not tens, then there is Excalibur, priced at $100000 a piece. I shot a full BC - there were no three lyams of green. But who will give them so much money?

[ROSS_51]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: Victor Sergeev

The question is not whether it is capable or not, but where will it end up? Any movement of a millimeter will give a deviation of tens of meters, but on earth it is tens of centimeters. Although if the goal of the self-propelled gun is to escape, then it is a wonderful car, it drives, hits wherever it hits and runs away.

The question is what to shoot and at what target. If you supposedly make Donetsk a nightmare, then “dumb” ammunition will do, the target is not small, it will hit somewhere. And if there is something that requires a QUO of meters, not tens, then there is Excalibur, priced at $100000 a piece. I shot a full BC - there were no three lyams of green. But who will give them so much money?

Can you imagine programming Excalibur in motion? If only preliminary programming in the rear according to previously scouted positions. Otherwise, all this mobility will go to hell..

[Revolver]

Quote: ROSS_51

If only preliminary programming in the rear according to previously scouted positions.

Somewhere like this. Or another option - a drone flies over the target, transmits coordinates, illuminates it with a laser, and the self-propelled gun fires approximately in the direction of the drone. As for how to marry the control system with data from a drone, let the engineers think that they are paid money for this.

[Max1984]

I think here we are talking about the ability to fire direct fire, that is, at targets atypical for artillery, for example, tanks that have broken through, it’s safer while moving, it’s more difficult for a tank to hit, by the way, the video shows one of these shots, when shooting classically, no one will immediately shoot in this no no sense, also probably the developers here are trying to indicate the reliability of the chassis, that “they say it is capable of shooting on the move and will not fall apart” other self-propelled guns usually push the stops into the ground, that is, as if it were a marketing ploy....

[lynnot]

Calculation on Boxer's platform. Still 40 tons...

[KTM-5]

Why do they need accuracy? Hit the cities anywhere, and so on.
This is how chimeras are used.
It’s also amazing, is it really such an impossible task to destroy this Khaimars? They are not in the reports at all. That is, they are all intact, they drive and shoot every day?!

[Mazunga]

The Boches need to arrange a completely random accident at a nuclear power plant, give the local Mujahideen or green activists some kind of shooting stray and hit the waste convoy from the same station

[lynnot]

Quote: Max1984

"they say it is capable of shooting on the move and will not fall apart"

Calculation on Boxer's platform. Still 40 tons... So-called. “hunter” mode, shooting at individual close targets - intended for cases of self-defense.

[Mikhail Maslov]

I don’t understand why the APU needs a wheeled version? There is the same turret with the same system with a tracked version, and if I’m not mistaken, the same thing in two versions. A wheeled self-propelled gun weighing more than 40 tons, in our area, and even in autumn-winter-spring, that’s what That.

[2sila]

Rare hat. How do they fire without securing the self-propelled gun with stops?! When it has a full set of charges, it throws it, pressing the back side to the ground. And after the shot, the barn rocks and jumps for another half a day. Will they correct the aiming every time or don’t care, will it work? This is definitely not possible on the go. There is not a single walker there that will last for a resource. Again, on the move, the sector of fire along the course is definitely limited. Turn the gun a little more along its axis and no one will go anywhere. You cannot fire while moving with a full charge. What's the point of this skill then? Come to the LB and shoot there very close?
If the turret is significantly rotated from the longitudinal axis of the vehicle, I’ll simplify it - the weapon perpendicular to the axis of the vehicle can only be fired with a minimum (one!) charge at an extremely short range. You can clearly see it at the end of the video. Without the support, full operation of this device is impossible. Yes, as an option, you can cut down the most complex compensating hydropneumatics and computer-adjustable suspension, but the shed will be golden and very brittle. For just watching a video, it’s fine.

[Military77]

I just wanted to put this out there. This chariot rocks like a Marktan boat when used for its intended purpose. Judging by the video - a chariot with only one round of ammunition, with such strain on the chassis - this is another "stubborn Emil" from the Nazis.

[Expert]

At a minimum, this means that she does not need to turn around for 1,5 minutes (!) like some Mste-S to fire a shot and then roll up for another half a minute. He stopped anywhere, 10 seconds to shoot, and after another 5 seconds he was moving on. Try counter-battery combat against such an installation!

[2sila]

This is provided that this happens, if they finish it, then they can try it in counter-battery. Yes, the fools - the designers of wheeled self-propelled guns - couldn't figure out this simple fact using the same Caesars, Archers, Bogdans and others. You won’t get a full-fledged self-propelled gun without such reliable statics. Where you have added a lot, there will be a lot lost. Yes, you can cut down for these purposes some not very expensive art stump such as a tank tank on wheels, Nona, Drokov, etc., but not with such a powerful barrel and the desire for a full-fledged, long-range self-propelled gun, and here it’s not me at all against it, but physics. At least it hasn’t worked out yet, but we’ll see.

[opuonmed]

hmm, are we going to destroy supplies???? or we can’t or they just don’t want to?

[LeutnantTom]

Not all progress is progress.
More electronics, more problems.
Unlike Soviet/Russian weapons, Western weapons are not designed to fire continuously.
The Western defense industry always sells a maintenance contract. And it's through these maintenance contracts that gun companies make real money.
However, anything that shoots is dangerous.

[opuonmed]

Well, yes, fired 1 shot, 1 hit, progress or should it be 20 shots until they hit without electronics?

[Pavel57]

Seriously. But the Lancet will catch up.

[Eugene Zaboy]

Rate of fire is 9 rounds per minute Rate of fire is 9 rounds per minute

The self-propelled gun is capable of conducting accurate fire even while moving, which is a unique characteristic for artillery systems today

- says the publication.

Judging by the video, it is unlikely that the self-propelled gun is capable of providing targeted, accurate fire at a rate of 9 rounds per minute. What electronics are capable of compensating for the observed obvious vibrations of the barrel, and even on the move.

[Hariton]

What kind of electronics is capable of compensating for the observed obvious vibrations of the barrel, and even on the move.

Visible vibrations are low-frequency, they are the most predictable for electronics.

[tolmachiev51]

- ... "The self-propelled gun is capable of conducting accurate fire even while moving." - plus or minus 4 km. PR campaign for fat eaters.e

[Hariton]

Dangerous car, especially if
will be in the regular composition of a motorized rifle battalion.
And a serious developer company, not a homemade club “Motolyga”. There are tracked versions of the Boxer.
The growth in worldwide production of this standard platform is alarming.
It is already replacing Soviet equipment, and Soviet equipment is being released and coming to us.

[Mountain shooter]

One thing is obvious - the car is very complex, and therefore expensive. And in service too. The barrel is similar to their PzH 2000, and the shooting parameters are similar. What kind of gunpowder do they have? And the threading in the barrels? And the shells are not simple, even without guidance... This is what we need to adopt... they hit far, and for sure... ours are much inferior. And counter-battery gun-to-gun combat is not relevant in the current dynamics. As long as you receive target designation, as long as you open fire... hope for loitering ammunition. Which block the area of ​​possible opening of fire. Paired with a reconnaissance UAV.

[Sith]

Maybe the target still doesn’t shoot on the move, but leaves the position with virtually no time lags
She flew up at full speed along the road to a point previously thought out by reconnaissance, fired several shots... ran to the next one, etc.... then left to re-equip and change the area so that the drones and artillery would not be found immediately

[Alex100]

For its 40 tons, it’s a very nimble louse on hard ground. The lack of rear support, the large swing from recoil and, as a result, a strong impact on the transmission and suspension are confusing.

[Romanenko]

The demo is very motivating for all sorts of thoughts, especially with regard to “hunter killer mode”.
It seems to me that it’s time for Armata to appear on the scene, otherwise this contraption can do a lot of harm, and it would be nice to still make Armata with a 152 mm gun, to counterbalance the inventive Krauts.

[Expert]

Quote: Romanenko

It seems to me that it’s time for Armata to appear on stage, otherwise this contraption can do a lot of harm

The Armata is a non-flying stealth tank, and can hardly help against wandering artillery firing at 40-50 km.

Quote: Romanenko

and it would be nice to make an Armata version with a 152 mm gun, for counterweight

There has been talk about this for a long time, but so far only 125 mm with extended shells.

[Felix]

I think many people can shoot on the move... But what about hitting??