Military correspondent: The General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces decided to create an artillery school in the country

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Military correspondent: The General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces decided to create an artillery school in the country

A new higher military artillery school may be created in the Russian Federation. War correspondent Alexander Sladkov stated this in his Telegram channel.

According to the military correspondent, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation has already decided to create another artillery military university, in addition to the existing Mikhailovsky Military Artillery Academy.



The last military school of this profile, Sladkov noted, was the Yekaterinburg Higher Artillery Command School. For a long time it remained the basic educational institution for the training of artillery officers. But in 2011 the school was disbanded. After the disbandment of EVAKU, personnel for artillery were trained exclusively by the Mikhailovsky Academy.

Let us recall that in 1998, the Kazan Higher Artillery Command and Engineering School, the Mikhailovsky Higher Artillery Command and Engineering School (Kolomna) and the Saratov Higher Military Command and Engineering School of Missile Forces were added to the Military Artillery University, as the academy was then called, as branches. In 2004, the university was renamed the Mikhailovsky Military Artillery Academy.

However, Sladkov notes, the academy did not have enough space to simultaneously train and accommodate both students and cadets. Therefore, it was decided to create another military university. The location for its placement has not yet been chosen, but the command of the missile forces and artillery is working on this issue.

It is noteworthy that such news Sladkov spoke the day after the celebration of the Day of Missile Forces and Artillery, which is celebrated in Russia on November 19.
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    1. +34
      20 November 2023 13: 39
      Well, the experience of the Northern Military District puts everything in its place. At least it starts to put it in place.
      1. +31
        20 November 2023 13: 46
        under the current Commander-in-Chief and Defense Ministry Taburetkin, a lot of things have been reduced.
        1. +1
          21 November 2023 19: 55
          Taburetkin has been gone for 10 years; instead of a furniture maker, he is a wood carver. And what? Who stopped you from creating it?
      2. +42
        20 November 2023 13: 46
        The old has been destroyed - we are creating a new one!
        Where were your brains, gentlemen with big stars, in those years when they destroyed?
        The brains were there! They destroyed it - it flowed into your pocket. We create - it flows again!
        1. +25
          20 November 2023 16: 40
          At the beginning, all the schools were thoughtlessly closed but they said it was right, now they are frantically opening them and they are also glad that it is right. And all this under the same leader of the country, the most brilliant geostrategist of our time.
          1. +3
            21 November 2023 13: 55
            If in existing military universities the time for drill, preparation for parades, and endless assignments for unarmed garrison patrols were reduced, and the teaching staff were allowed to spend most of their time on the actual educational process, and not filling out a wave of accounting and reporting documents, there would be a lot of sense times more than from the opening of another university, which will initially be affected by all of the above-mentioned troubles of domestic military education.
    2. +36
      20 November 2023 13: 42
      The main question remains: where to find teaching staff? After Taburetkin's reforms.
      1. +25
        20 November 2023 13: 45
        ..we’ll have to raise a new one from the SVO participants...I hope
      2. +53
        20 November 2023 13: 48
        Yes
        Evil stool - he did it and no one saw or knew, and wasn’t all this done with the sanction of the very top of the government? Are the evil boyars to blame again?!
        And yes - how long has the Tuvan minister been and how many Serdyukovs have they been? How many “party favorites” have opened closed schools?
        Well, if we play a game that someone is bad and someone is good
        1. +20
          20 November 2023 18: 03
          Quote: Ivan№One
          And yes - how long has the Tuvan minister been and how many Serdyukovs have they been? How many “party favorites” have opened closed schools?

          Despite the fact that in the time of Taburetkin there was still hope that there would not be a big conflict in the near future - at most, something like another 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX.
          But during Shoigu’s time, especially after 2014, it was already crystal clear where things were going. However... sad
          1. +5
            20 November 2023 20: 38
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Despite the fact that in the time of Taburetkin there was still hope that there would not be a big conflict in the near future - at most, something like another 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX.

            In 2007, on February 10, Putin delivered his speech in Munich at a security conference... He drew conclusions from the reaction of his opponents. And by February 15, he had formed tasks for the new Ministry of Defense, to whom he appointed Serdyukov. 888 showed that the army is not ready for battles with a technologically strong enemy. And mainly technically. Therefore, in accordance with the instructions of the President, Serdyukov solved the problem of saving the budget on the maintenance of the army to finance the necessary technical and technological areas. The state of the budget did not allow us to pursue both directions equally. This time also corresponded to the largest payments on debts dating back to the USSR and Yeltsin’s time. Since 2007, it has become clear that war will most likely happen, but not tomorrow, but a little later. Therefore, to the detriment of everything, they pushed the possibility of equipping the Armed Forces with new strategic nuclear forces and other weapons. But in every big boss, managerial talents coexist with ordinary vanity and unhealthy ambitions, and this, unfortunately, is almost the norm throughout the world. We are no exception.
            1. +9
              21 November 2023 10: 49
              Quote: Hagen
              888 showed that the army is not ready for battles with a technologically strong enemy. And mainly technically.

              Not only. In addition to the technical problems, there was also a huge organizational problem - the paper “combat-ready divisions” were luckily able to field a reinforced battalion from the regiment. Without mobilization, the army structure could not fight normally. But she didn’t have time for mobilization for the war.
              This is where the legs of the Makarov-Serdyukov brigades of constant readiness grow: since the division can in fact field a brigade in the field, then let’s reorganize it into a brigade - but staffed with equipment and contract personnel by 85-90%, without personnel units, and engaged only combat training. These combat-ready brigades will have to fight in conflicts of low and medium effectiveness. And for a big war, we will retain the training of a mobile reserve of conscripts in training centers and training units + military personnel, the mobilization and deployment of which will be covered by brigades in case of emergency. In general, contract workers are fighting participate in special operations in peacetime, conscripts prepare for a big war.
              And then financiers and Arbat generals came and turned the permanent readiness brigades into analogues of the old divisions, filling them with conscripts and staffing auxiliary and rear units. And we again returned to the situation of August 2008, except at a new technical level.
          2. +2
            21 November 2023 12: 52
            Liberals - they are so mercantile, nothing personal - only business and enrichment!!!
        2. -5
          20 November 2023 18: 10
          Quote: Ivan№One
          Evil stool - he did it and no one saw or knew

          History is a non-linear thing. Each stage of the life of our country and army has its own tasks. There is no point in simply bringing them to the attention of the population. The government institutions’ development strategy is discussed with people of relevant competencies. Therefore, I would leave Serdyukov alone. He did what he was told and what was most necessary at that moment. And it’s not for us to decide what tasks should be assigned to whom and how. Still, we must understand that the level of our (forum members) immersion in government problems and knowledge do not correspond to this mission. And this does not need to be assessed - whether it is good or bad. You just have to accept that it exists. This is worldly wisdom. And the attempt to give generals advice on cosmic stupidity is just evidence of a small mind. T.s. "Dunning-Kruger effect". wink
          1. +2
            20 November 2023 18: 34
            You have no idea how right you are! There's a lot we don't know. And there is no need to rock the boat. And in general, no one is interested in what was allowed here.
          2. 0
            21 November 2023 10: 23
            Each stage of the life of our country and army has its own tasks. There is no point in simply bringing them to the attention of the population. The government institutions’ development strategy is discussed with people of relevant competencies.

            There is some truth in this statement. When our brigade was reduced, there was a rumor that in 5 years it would be revived. They revived it, but after 7 years, in the same place. That is, it was done purposefully, with an appropriate planning horizon. For what? We don't know.
          3. 0
            21 November 2023 17: 59
            There is a Constitution that has been communicated to the people, and which sets tasks, including for the army. Giving advice to generals? Army wisdom says: General is not a military rank, it is military happiness.
            1. -3
              21 November 2023 19: 50
              Quote: Sergei Fonov
              Army wisdom says: General is not a military rank, it is military happiness.

              The title of “general” is the next step in a difficult army career, consisting of a whole chain of such steps. In this regard, Suvorov said: “One is luck, two is luck, God have mercy, you also need skill!” The one who is unlucky with skill comes up with the “wisdom” you mentioned. And if you see a violation of the Constitution in the actions of a minister or the President, write a complaint to the Constitutional Court. He will tell you in detail how to read this document. It's all simple... wink
        3. +2
          21 November 2023 10: 58
          The liberals foolishly thought that we no longer needed a combat-ready and modern army and that we could save a lot on it, but as time has shown, this ridiculous whim of theirs turned out to be an unforgivable strategic mistake.
          1. +2
            21 November 2023 16: 54
            Quote: sgrabik
            The liberals foolishly thought that we no longer needed a combat-ready and modern army and that we could save a lot of money on it

            There were two stages in the army reform.
            After 08.08.08/2010/XNUMX, they tried to create a combat-ready modern army that would meet the situation in the world at the end of the XNUMXs. That is, get rid of paper divisions and regiments, which only consumed money and created excess space at higher headquarters, while being completely uncombat-ready. And at the same time, clean out the headquarters, filling the empty places “in the field” with officers left without offices. And instead of paper divisions, create real brigades that can be thrown into battle at any time, without mobilization, retraining and coordination.
            During this reduction, such yawning heights were revealed that it became scary - for example, in the Air Force, air regiments in fact turned out to be squadrons.
            And then came the second stage - saving. Well, yes, 08.08.08 was quickly forgotten, and they decided to save money on the army. Again conscripts in permanent readiness formations, again staffed units, etc.
            Then it suddenly turned out that if a brigade was filled with conscripts, it would not be able to field more than a battalion in the field - and it was necessary to turn the brigades back into divisions in order to get at least a regiment in the field.
            Generally,
            We wanted the best, but it turned out as always
            1. 0
              22 November 2023 07: 30
              It's complete nonsense with "paper" divisions. It was only in Stoolkin’s brain that they were “paper”. And in the army system these are divisions of reduced strength and personnel. Fully equipped with equipment and property, command staff and personnel of no less than 30%. (reduced strength), intended for the reception and training of assigned personnel at the first stage of deployment. Moreover, in these units, commander training was carried out in full and combat training from single to unit coordination, depending on their level of manning. And equipped with 80-100% equipment and an organizational squad of command personnel (parts of the personnel) intended for deployment in the second stage. As well as a storage base and reserve equipment for newly formed units and replenishment of losses.
              In addition to these formations and units, the RF Armed Forces had permanent readiness units fully equipped with people, equipment and property. Engaged in full command and combat training. From single to unit coordination with regimental/brigade live-fire exercises. At the time of the reforms, we had 4 such divisions and several regiments and brigades in the RF Armed Forces.
              So the “clever” stool and NGS Makarov, who sang along with him, decided that in future life we ​​will only fight with irregulars in the mountains, and a big war does not threaten us and a few dozen brigades will be enough for us. And they decided to completely eliminate parts of the reduced staff and personnel. Thus, completely destroying the mobilization deployment system. Which, oh, how it came back to us during the partial mobilization. After all, Shoigu and Gerasimov also did not bother with the revival of these units, but only partially returned the divisional system. And then in a truncated form, 3 regimental, and not 4 regimental, composition of combined arms units.
              So there was only one stage of the Taburetkin-Makarov reform - saving costs and lining one's pockets while liquidating military camps.
              1. 0
                22 November 2023 11: 43
                Quote: Old Tankman
                In addition to these formations and units, the RF Armed Forces had permanent readiness units fully equipped with people, equipment and property. Engaged in full command and combat training. From single to unit coordination with regimental/brigade live-fire exercises. At the time of the reforms, we had 4 such divisions and several regiments and brigades in the RF Armed Forces.

                Including the 19th Motorized Rifle Division. Which deployed the BTG from the regiment. With platoons of 18-20 people. In which the command staff could not even organize a march according to regulations. Oh yes, the command staff also did not know how to use the existing standard communications equipment, since during general exercises communications were deployed conditionally. This is the real power of a permanently ready formation: one semi-trained brigade in the field.
                And nearby was the same 42nd Motorized Rifle Division. On equipment from the times of Afghanistan.
                And the Air Force hovered proudly above it all. Who spent two days looking for a working Phantasmagoria in order to finally begin suppressing enemy air defenses.
                1. 0
                  22 November 2023 21: 07
                  At the first stage, armored personnel carriers from the 503rd and 429th regiments entered Ossetia. But this indicates what composition was determined by the decision of the army commander. And not the staffing and combat effectiveness of the entire division. For example, in the second Chechen campaign, 2 small infantry fighting units were deployed from our regiment. 3msb and tb solution com. The districts were left in the PPD for duty. Although the regiment was 100% staffed and went through a full cycle of combat coordination.
                  Communication problems were caused by enemy electronic warfare and we had to use Georgian cellular SIM cards. But it was precisely this fact that gave the strongest impetus to the development of our electronic warfare systems. Which at the current stage, according to the American military, are the best in the world today.
      3. Hey
        +2
        20 November 2023 16: 55
        I would turn to old footage, at least for the first time. The Academy has set the task of preparing young teachers during this time, taking into account the SVO.
        1. 0
          22 November 2023 07: 03
          The Academy has set the task of preparing young teachers during this time, taking into account the SVO.

          The Academy does not have a specialization in teacher training and a corresponding free teaching load.
      4. 0
        21 November 2023 21: 57
        Quote: zelivee
        After Taburetkin's reforms

        Who runs the country, Taburetkin?
      5. 0
        22 November 2023 07: 01
        The main question remains: where to find teaching staff? After Taburetkin's reforms

        I think there will be enough experienced officers participating in the SVO. Moreover, with injuries that do not allow serving in combat positions.
      6. +1
        22 November 2023 11: 20
        Those laid off due to staff reductions have not gone away. If at 65 you can sit out your pants in the Defense Ministry and the General Staff, then you can certainly offer reserve officers of the same age, who have knowledge and practical skills, to take vacant teaching positions in the reconstructed military schools.
        1. 0
          22 November 2023 21: 09
          The question is whether this experienced retiree-pensioner will agree to leave his home (probably also his job, dacha) and, taking his family under his arm, rush to teach in another city.
    3. +21
      20 November 2023 13: 44
      The Russian “national pastime” is to first destroy everything to the ground, and then heroically restore and build. Maybe after the artillery, it will be the turn of the communications schools?
      1. +20
        20 November 2023 14: 20
        Quote: Orso
        Maybe after the artillery, it will be the turn of the communications schools?

        Maybe even to aviation... Academy named after Zhugarin...
      2. +1
        21 November 2023 11: 07
        Everything must come to a head, everything that the liberals destroyed and optimized needs to be revived and restored; now we simply cannot survive without a powerful, combat-ready army equipped with the most modern and effective weapons.
        1. -2
          21 November 2023 21: 59
          Quote: sgrabik
          everything that the liberals destroyed and optimized needs to be revived and restored

          And who exactly are liberals?
    4. +11
      20 November 2023 13: 45
      First closed
      Now open
      Who are left to teach?
      1. AAK
        -1
        20 November 2023 15: 24
        Well, so, theorists of all kinds in the same GRAU are a dime a dozen, like toads in a swamp... not all "Gvozdiki", D-20 and "Rapiers" have been melted down yet, there is materiel... even a couple of satellites with They fly with Glonass, they will find a receiver, there is something to learn on, not just on the compass...
      2. AAK
        -1
        20 November 2023 15: 24
        Well, so, theorists of all kinds in the same GRAU are a dime a dozen, like toads in a swamp... not all "Gvozdiki", D-20 and "Rapiers" have been melted down yet, there is materiel... even a couple of satellites with They fly with Glonass, they will find a receiver, there is something to learn on, not just on the compass...
        1. +4
          21 November 2023 11: 54
          There are 24 GLONASS satellites in the orbital group, this is enough to cover the Earth.
    5. +19
      20 November 2023 13: 45
      Come on..))) have the General Staff finally started to think with their heads? Dashing managers managed to disband and collapse in a couple of months. Now try to create am The school does not appear at the snap of a finger. A military school is a long-term tradition, and often centuries-old, it is a territory and training base, it is textbooks and methods, and most importantly it is an experienced teaching staff. This has been taking DECADES to form!! When will these simple truths reach the comrades in eagle epaulets! Or will personal gain blind your eyes? It is easy to destroy, it was not created by their hands. But build your own....
      1. 0
        20 November 2023 19: 46
        Quote from: FoBoss_VM
        A military school is a long-term tradition, and often centuries-old, it is a territory and training base, it is textbooks and methods, and most importantly it is an experienced teaching staff. This has been taking DECADES to form!!

        Centuries-old traditions are Bravo walk along the parade ground with “Soar the falcons like eagles!!”???
        Or like in my emergency situation - when in six months we deployed our sound-metric artillery reconnaissance complex AZK-5 as many as 5 times and even - thank the Gods!! - started a cracker once????
        The fact that no one knew how to work on it and the officers had no time for us (1988) - well, who cared about such a trifle....
        Yes, such teachers should have been driven out by assholes, and the units should have been disbanded - where the main thing was stripes on a string, and the snow around the parade ground in squares on a string....
        But there were quite a large number of Afghan officers in the country who saw this “ballet-hoofed dirigible”....
        80% of such units were ostentatious to the country.
        And in schools they taught my beloved D-1 model 1943 - already in the 21st century....

        Maybe even now living people with live practice and combat experience will come.
        Without "Let's pull the leg!!!" and compass PAB -2M (which they showed us, but they didn’t let us work - we’d suddenly break it!!)....
        1. +3
          20 November 2023 23: 11
          How did you pass combat training tasks in the field? After all, there were training plans and field studies. Served as a battery topographer. Everyone passed everything in all specialties, and the controllers checked the correctness of the position binding and aiming of the firemen.
      2. +2
        21 November 2023 11: 17
        Well, to break it is not to build, and these flawed effective managers of the liberal persuasion were not taught anything else, only to break, reduce, optimize, close, and instead of all enterprises, educational institutions, design bureaus and etc. they intensively built shopping and entertainment centers, residential areas and other similar objects, so we have come to what we are now seeing, liberalism and the market economy in all its glory, it turns out that not everything is and is not always measured by profit alone.
      3. 0
        21 November 2023 20: 10
        Now there is a huge school with thousands of highly qualified specialists. True, instead of failing grades they can send you to the next world...
      4. 0
        22 November 2023 11: 35
        It is possible to recruit teaching staff. But buildings, structures, barracks and educational facilities that have been sold, or abandoned, or have fallen into disrepair are more difficult to restore.
    6. +14
      20 November 2023 13: 47
      That is, first it was necessary to smash everything to optimize “to the core, and then...”
      Educational and material base, teaching staff...
      The Tula Artillery Engineering Institute was destroyed in 2009, EVAKU in 2011, and the GRAU training centers there too. (((
    7. +2
      20 November 2023 13: 50
      I propose to create it in Lipetsk:
      The city is developing dynamically;
      In the Lipetsk region, 3 volunteer artillery divisions were formed for their own;
      The commander of the first Katyusha division, Flerov, was from Lipetsk.
      1. +4
        20 November 2023 14: 10
        It would be nice, but in my opinion there should also be a training ground nearby for practical training, educational buildings, barracks-dormitories... There is nothing like that in Lipetsk
        1. 0
          21 November 2023 11: 28
          Ekaterinburg is simply beyond competition, and Perm would also be quite suitable.
    8. +3
      20 November 2023 13: 51
      Quote: zelivee
      The main question remains: where to find teaching staff? After Taburetkin's reforms.

      with LBS... the best teachers, yesterday's trainees
    9. +19
      20 November 2023 13: 54
      First they broke everything, dispersed everyone, and now they come to their senses? Has anyone thought about the team, traditions, “school”? After all, you cannot create them by “Order of the General Staff.” This takes years.
      And finally. Will anyone ever be held accountable for the collapse of Higher Military Education in the country?
      1. -2
        21 November 2023 22: 03
        Quote: Amateur
        Will anyone ever be held accountable for the collapse of Higher Military Education in the country?

        And everything else too
        1. 0
          22 November 2023 11: 37
          Are you hinting at Serdyukov? So he didn’t set tasks for himself. He was specifically appointed to the position for the purpose of “reform.” All questions to the military-political leadership and the Supreme.
    10. HAM
      +1
      20 November 2023 13: 56
      There was an artillery school-RAU in Rostov-on-Don, why not recreate it?
      1. +1
        21 November 2023 07: 05
        You are confusing, since the 60s, in Rostov they were preparing rocket men for the Strategic Missile Forces, not artillery... Artillerymen - until the 60s...
        1. HAM
          0
          21 November 2023 11: 21
          Nikolay, in our civilian Rostov university in the early 80s, lectures on “ACS” and “TED and A” were given by colonels from the RAU ... they also talked about artillery and missiles, there were both directions.
    11. +17
      20 November 2023 14: 08
      There has been no Kolomna School since 2008, I won’t say anything about Kazan and Saratov, but it is quite possible that in the “new look” they decided that artillery commanders and missile commanders were not needed and could have been cut too.
      Well, the fact that there are no damn artillery officers, and they are desperately needed - my congratulations to the Ministry of Defense. After all, there the apologists of the “compact contract army” muttered through their lips that artillery brigades and divisions were not needed. But no, they turned out to be necessary.
      1. +2
        21 November 2023 11: 00
        In Kazan, a school was razed to the ground. Local bureaucrats needed land to sell for development. Now there is a residential complex there..
        1. +2
          21 November 2023 13: 03
          So this is not only in Kazan, this is a typical liberal approach to resolving such issues, to tear everything down and build it up with commercial real estate, these brutes have squandered the whole country.
          1. -2
            21 November 2023 22: 06
            Quote: sgrabik
            this is a typical liberal approach to resolving such issues

            There have been almost 3 presidents in Russia.
            And which one of them is liberal?
            All members of the CPSU.
            What are liberals doing here?
    12. +8
      20 November 2023 14: 10
      Quote: Amateur
      First they broke everything, dispersed everyone, and now they come to their senses? Has anyone thought about the team, traditions, “school”? After all, you cannot create them by “Order of the General Staff.” This takes years.
      And finally. Will anyone ever be held accountable for the collapse of Higher Military Education in the country?

      You don’t understand, defective managers will explain to you once or twice that it’s like setting up a military school with two fingers on the asphalt.
    13. +15
      20 November 2023 14: 13
      The territory of the Yekaterinburg VACU has been preserved.
      Of course it needs renovation. And the teaching staff remains!
      1. +7
        20 November 2023 14: 43
        Yes, it will be easier to restore barracks and training bases there
      2. -2
        20 November 2023 17: 38
        What about the landfill? And where are those teaching staff?
        1. +1
          21 November 2023 13: 07
          Well, there are more than enough training grounds near Yekaterinburg, and now you won’t find ready-made teaching staff anywhere, they now need to be revived, trained, but in the conditions of the Northern Military District this is much easier to do, where experience comes to officers many times faster.
      3. +1
        21 November 2023 00: 32

        In Yekaterinburg, they seem to be doing Msta, the video shows that this is exactly what they were taught then
        It was more logical to establish a school in Yekaterinburg, where there is a plant for the production of self-propelled guns
        1. 0
          21 November 2023 05: 36
          They do a lot of things there, although bringing a cannon is not a problem. The main thing is that there was an artillery (and tank) range there. A stone's throw". Has it survived?
          1. 0
            21 November 2023 13: 17
            It has been preserved, and not just one, but several, besides, Nizhny Tagil is nearby - the capital of Russian tank building.
            1. 0
              21 November 2023 13: 52
              Well, there was a training ground nearby, almost within the city limits, and N. Tagil was 120 km away.
    14. +10
      20 November 2023 14: 16
      I hope the culprits will be found and shot?
      1. +4
        21 November 2023 09: 57
        Quote from Aken
        I hope the culprits will be found and shot?

        Don’t hope that the guilty will not find themselves and shoot themselves. As they say: “the most important thing during an investigation is not to expose yourself..” lol
      2. +1
        21 November 2023 13: 18
        It would be very nice to punish the scoundrels for all their vile deeds.
    15. +9
      20 November 2023 14: 20
      Shame. Partial weak recovery after the great pogrom. And they don’t remember the Leningrad Order-Bearing School (formerly Konstantinovsky). “At about 11 o’clock the Pavlovites and Konstantinovites left” V. Mayakovsky.
    16. +4
      20 November 2023 14: 28
      Didn't understand. And the Penza VAIU, is it no longer there?
      1. +1
        20 November 2023 15: 11
        While there. hi "" "" "" ""
    17. +13
      20 November 2023 14: 30
      The Tula Artillery School with a good training base and summer camps was recently closed. The result of the closure and reduction of military educational institutions is obvious, we see this from the results of the so-called
      1. +6
        20 November 2023 15: 31
        If 2009 is recent, then yes... although the school was good
    18. -9
      20 November 2023 14: 34
      Gentlemen, discussants! Take the cons off the shelf. The correspondent in his telegram channel said something...
      And you truly believed it. You can only believe in what already exists, and this is election propaganda.
    19. +9
      20 November 2023 14: 40
      We must come to our senses! In Yekaterinburg, the Art School (which was once an institute) was disbanded in 2011. As in other matters throughout the country, the entire defense industry was brought to its knees...
    20. +2
      20 November 2023 15: 01
      Tula was reduced... Now there are airborne forces
      1. +5
        20 November 2023 15: 24
        Military artillery engineers (TVAIU-TAII) are now being trained in Penza (PAII), but there are also not enough of them for the RF Armed Forces. “Thank you” to Serdyukov and the apparatus of the Ministry of Defense, such a school necessary for the RF Armed Forces was ruined am . After all, they trained great weapons specialists, so necessary for the army, because breaking cannot be built
        1. +1
          21 November 2023 13: 24
          Thanks to the gentlemen liberals for all this, they wanted to buy everything for gas and oil, but you can’t buy a national army and modern weapons on the side, we need to create, support and develop all this ourselves.
        2. -1
          21 November 2023 22: 11
          Quote: Appraiser
          "Thank you" Serdyukov

          And what does switchman Serdyukov have to do with it?
      2. 0
        20 November 2023 15: 31
        It seems that Suvorov was opened at their base?
    21. +5
      20 November 2023 15: 09
      They broke and broke, and now they are rebuilding it again. Hmm, I really can’t understand with my mind... If this is all true, of course.
    22. +4
      20 November 2023 15: 16
      Well, thank God our prayers were heard.... soldier True, opening an artillery military school is not so simple, the main thing is the base and the teaching staff and, of course, the cadets... Because they will be trained taking into account modern conditions and innovations.
    23. -1
      20 November 2023 15: 25
      The artillery schools woke up... well done, what can I say. But there is still a lot to be reincarnated!
      As a person who at one time had a direct relationship with the VPU of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR, I simply scream out loud all the time: “OPEN POLITICAL SCHOOLS AGAIN!!!”
      But some were destroyed, some were transformed, some were reformatted - and now there are no purely political instructor schools left! Accordingly, there is nowhere to get political instructors from. And political instructors are very much needed both in the army and in the Russian Guard. A lock for working with l/s is, of course, similar, but a little different. A real political officer - he is not only a ZKR for working with l/s, he is also a bit of a company commander, a bit of an overseer, a bit of a chaplain, a bit of a lecturer at the Knowledge Society, a bit of an animator... a lot of things, in short :))
      And with a good political officer, there will be no confusion and vacillation. Everyone will have a good understanding of their role and responsibility at their place of duty, and in general what is happening globally. And the company will be tuned like a piano.
      1. +6
        20 November 2023 16: 18
        Quote: Peter_Koldunov
        A real political officer - he is not only a ZKR for working with l/s, he is also a bit of a company commander, a bit of an overseer, a bit of a chaplain, a bit of a lecturer at the Knowledge Society, a bit of an animator... a lot of things, in short :))

        Also a little pregnant. laughing
        Quote: Peter_Koldunov
        And with a good political officer, there will be no confusion and vacillation. Everyone will have a good understanding of their role and responsibility at their place of duty, and in general what is happening globally.

        There cannot be a political officer in a bourgeois depoliticized army. A political officer from each party - even more so. You will either have to put aside nostalgia or fight for a return to socialism. hi
        1. +4
          20 November 2023 21: 48
          First come up with an ideology. For now there is only a thirst for profit, businessmen are crap... ..
          1. 0
            21 November 2023 16: 02
            Ideology “from above” is not invented. It takes hold of the masses; it must be achieved through suffering. Otherwise, you end up with a joke in the style of Surkov’s clamps.
        2. +4
          21 November 2023 10: 04
          There cannot be a political officer in a bourgeois depoliticized army.

          The Ministry of Defense has GlavPUR - the main political department, but below it there are no people. It's a mess. Either GlavPUR should be dispersed, or the structure will continue to be completed.
      2. +3
        20 November 2023 18: 38
        Not this! The army is a unity of command. The commander is in charge. And there shouldn’t be “educators” who themselves can’t do anything, don’t know or know how, aren’t responsible for anything, but at the same time strive to stick their nose in everywhere and, on occasion, make a slander. Including the commander with whom I had just greeted. PPR masters,...
        1. 0
          23 November 2023 13: 09
          The army is a unity of command. The commander is in charge.

          The presence of a deputy commander does not abolish unity of command.
          And there shouldn’t be “educators” who themselves can’t do anything, don’t know or know how, aren’t responsible for anything, but at the same time strive to stick their nose in everywhere and, on occasion, make a slander. Including the commander with whom I had just greeted.

          What you write can be said about any deputy commander. Deputy for technical, deputy for special, deputy for, etc. Depends on human qualities.
          Previously, there were schools for political officers in a specific specialization: artillery, tanks, etc. That is, the political officer was a specialist in a military specialty, and in addition he also helped the commander in working with personnel.
      3. +3
        20 November 2023 21: 40
        Not only. In 2011, the St. Petersburg Military Institute of Radio Electronics was closed. The last.RTV school. Mat. some were transferred to the Zhugarin Academy in Voronezh, where there is already a landfill. Nobody went there. Now there is not a single RT military school. There is no one to sit at the locators. I suffered myself.
      4. +4
        21 November 2023 06: 45
        And political instructors are very much needed both in the army and in the Russian Guard.

        And what party should the political instructor be from? From United Russia, Liberal Democratic Party or "Grandfather Zyu". Or he should change orientation like our deputies, who quickly switched from “Our Home ̶G̶a̶z̶p̶r̶o̶m̶ Russia” to “United Russia”.
        1. +1
          21 November 2023 10: 55
          Quote: Amateur
          And what party should the political instructor be from? From United Russia, Liberal Democratic Party or "Grandfather Zyu".

          From everyone at once - depending on the party affiliation of the person who came.
          You remember the classic - Garrison's syncretic officer-castellan/chaplain. wink
          “By the great grace of Ahuramazda, I am an anointed priest of Zoroastrianism; at the command of Allah - a faithful muezzin of Islam; by the permission of Jehovah - a circumcised rabbi, and so on. “Here his benign face grinned angrily. “And because of the lack of officers, there’s a damned castellan officer.”
    24. +9
      20 November 2023 16: 13
      Will there be demand from “optimizers” for “optimizing” military schools? Most were destroyed under the current commander-in-chief, who does not surrender his own.
      1. +5
        20 November 2023 19: 26
        President Yeltsin closed 25 military educational institutions, President Putin - 12, President Medvedev - 29.
        Yeltsin closed an average of 3,1 military educational institutions per year, Putin - 0.8, Medvedev - 7,3 military educational institutions per year.
    25. -3
      20 November 2023 16: 48
      If the schools were annexed, albeit as branches, they did not cease to be schools, or what?
      1. +5
        20 November 2023 18: 51
        or how. The text is short, but its meaning is great. Here, for example, is the former Volsk School of Logistics. Previously, it was subordinate to the control of the Armed Forces Logistics, but with its reorganization into a branch of the Academy of Logistics in St. Petersburg - it is subordinate to the academy, of course. The school trained junior officers, the Academy trained senior officers, all according to the order of the rear command. Now every piece of paper in Volsk is coordinated with Peter. And not via Viber, as you understand... What used to be solved in a week can now not be solved even in a month. Progress of patamushta. And optimization.
    26. +1
      20 November 2023 17: 12
      Hmmm...! Race! Not a country, but a complete “international” ... (“let’s destroy everything to the ground, and then...”)!
    27. -6
      20 November 2023 17: 53
      In the 1980s in the USSR there were 146 military schools and 17 military academies.
      For comparison, there are only 4 higher military educational institutions in the United States:
      -Ground Forces: West Point
      -BBC: Colorado Springs
      -Navy: Annapolis
      -Military Medical University.
      That's all. The duration of training is 4 years (except for medicine), and not 5-6 years, like ours, all graduates also receive an engineering diploma. Most American officers are jackets who have completed short-term military training courses and live well with it, saving significant money on training.

      It is not surprising that the USSR lost the Cold War - ill-considered spending on the military-industrial complex devoured the economy. And now, it seems, the gerontocrats want to repeat this. If artillery officers are urgently needed, the most obvious solution is short officer courses for mathematics graduates.
      But the military bureaucracy decides differently: a new military university: +1 proud wearer of stripes. This is more important.
      1. +6
        20 November 2023 18: 44
        Do you understand exactly what you are writing about? about American engineers - they don’t do repairs. They change in blocks. They believe that the light bulb turns on when you turn on the switch. Short-term artillery courses for mathematics students are fabulous. How long is enough time to train a senior officer in a battery? Is a month normal or even too much, in your opinion?
        1. -4
          20 November 2023 20: 03
          What I saw in the early to mid 2010s. in a number of parts of the Central Military District there is a weak level of practical training for young officers and a low level of general education. What 5 years and millions of government funds were spent on - cadets cost the budget more than students - is completely unclear.
          As for the period of preparation - my grandfather in the early 1950s. He graduated from flight school in 2 years and flew Tu-25 and Tu-4 for 16 years. Now the training period for a military pilot in the Russian Federation is 6 years, in the USA it is 1,5-2 years (out of a jacket).
          Probably during the Great Patriotic War the Soviet leadership were fools. It was necessary to switch to a 5-6 year training period for officers, then they would have won the Nazis faster.
          1. 0
            21 November 2023 14: 15
            In a year and a half, this is not a pilot, this is an operator who has learned the sequence of pressing buttons.
        2. +3
          21 November 2023 11: 23
          Quote: Kasatik
          Do you understand exactly what you are writing about? about American engineers - they don’t do repairs. They change in blocks. They believe that the light bulb turns on when you turn on the switch.

          So there is no point in comparing American officers with ours - the Yankees have a completely different structure.
          They don’t stuff any more or less responsible or technically complex position with a lieutenant. The job of officers is to command. And the equipment is handled by the second vertical - sergeants and warrants. On the same aircraft carrier, all takeoff and landing operations, transportation and placement of aircraft are managed by the warrants - Aviation boatswain's mate. Or you can remember the Virginia-class nuclear submarine, on which out of 135 crew members there are only 15 officers.
      2. -1
        21 November 2023 09: 03
        Doesn’t the fact that “Russians always beat Prussians” mean anything? It should be the other way around.
      3. 0
        21 November 2023 13: 36
        Well, yes, but you think that the United States is an absolute example of reference military planning and competencies, but in practice it is clearly clear that they are at least not superior to us in these components.
    28. 0
      20 November 2023 18: 12
      hooray ! give me a strong army!
    29. +2
      20 November 2023 22: 22
      At first they destroyed everything in the country and put it in their pockets, now the same names are reviving the country, and again in their pockets
    30. +1
      20 November 2023 22: 23
      At first they destroyed everything in the country and put it in their pockets, now the same names are reviving the country, and again in their pockets
    31. 0
      20 November 2023 23: 38
      If I were tasked with choosing a location for a new artillery school, I would choose St. Petersburg or its immediate surroundings. Surely there is a free barracks fund here, just how many higher educational institutions in the city have been cut. It’s easier to solve the problem with the teaching staff - you can transfer some of the teachers from local academies, so that it doesn’t turn out like in Zhugarin, from which one doctor of sciences went to Voronezh, there are adjuncts with outstanding qualifications and retired teachers, again. Artillery factories still operate in the city. And, most importantly, there is the largest artillery range in Europe nearby.
      1. +1
        21 November 2023 13: 42
        This may seem strange to you, but all of our main artillery production facilities are located in the Urals, these are Yekaterinburg, Perm, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, what does St. Petersburg have to do with it is not entirely clear???
        1. +4
          21 November 2023 14: 26
          Quote: sgrabik
          This may seem strange to you, but all of our main artillery production facilities are located in the Urals, these are Yekaterinburg, Perm, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, what does St. Petersburg have to do with it is not entirely clear???

          Apparently, gentlemen officers are reluctant to Regions, beyond the Moscow Ring Road and the Ring Road. wink
      2. 0
        21 November 2023 16: 10
        The distance to St. Petersburg from the border with a potential enemy is a little more than 100 km; enemy UAVs are already frequent in the Moscow region. In such conditions, it would be a sin not to use the still existing advantage in strategic depth and locate defense enterprises, design bureaus, and educational institutions in the (relatively) deep rear. There, for now, at least it is possible to arrange a ceremonial formation, a drill review (where would our army be without them?) without the need to send hundreds of funerals to the parents of the cadets the next day.
    32. +5
      21 November 2023 00: 23
      Apparently the air defense institutes will have to be restored.
      1. +1
        21 November 2023 13: 44
        Given the special demand for air defense and missile defense in modern military conflicts, this step simply suggests itself.
    33. +3
      21 November 2023 00: 44
      St. Petersburg is not the place where military institutions should be located; they will be the first to come under NATO attack. The missiles will arrive.
      Distance from St. Petersburg to the Finnish border - 148 km
      Now the example is Crimea. Rockets fly even more than 300 km. And someone wants to train officers in St. Petersburg. It’s not for nothing that military institutions were pushed back so far in their time. Why do many people graduate from college in St. Petersburg and not want to go somewhere else in the country?

      The ceremony dedicated to the 192nd graduation of officers from the Mikhailovsky Military Artillery Academy took place on June 18, 2022 on Lenin Square in St. Petersburg. More than 500 qualified specialists and highly qualified personnel of three levels of training will join the ranks of the law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation and the armies of foreign states.

      In 2023, the Mikhailovsk Military Artillery Academy is recruiting cadets (over 1000 people).

      We were only able to recruit twice as many people.

      https://svptau-evaku.ru/story
      Over 8 artillery officers were trained. EVAKU graduates serve in all artillery units and subunits in the Northern Military District zone.
      Disbanded - in accordance with the Order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated July 18.07.2011, XNUMX. within the framework of the military reform of the Russian Defense Minister A. Serdyukov. The cadets studying at that time were transferred to other educational institutions of the Moscow Region.
      This was the last specialized artillery university in the Russian Federation, where fire officers were trained. Apparently these were the ones who repaired the guns, because there was a factory nearby and they were trained.
      The school's support site is still alive, but the entire institute is overgrown and standing. The only thing left to do is demolish it; there hasn't been any repairs there for a long time.
      https://svptau-evaku.ru/projects
      We indicate there the work to restore the school. Is anyone else restoring artillery somewhere?
      1. 0
        21 November 2023 02: 31
        In fact, the Eburg-Chelyabinsk region has long been included in the flight missions of American ICBMs. Have you forgotten that Powers flew to the Urals for a reason? And when choosing the location of military schools, distance from the state border is not in the first place. Military schools used to be tied to the areas where reserve armies were formed: 1st echelon - Ukraine, Belarus; 2nd - east of the Volga. Front-line battalions of reserve officers were to be formed in them, followed by distribution into units. Aviation schools - in places with the maximum number of clear days a year.
        1. 0
          21 November 2023 13: 47
          What ridiculous nonsense, it’s even funny to read.
    34. +2
      21 November 2023 01: 07
      Wonderful are your works, Lord! First they destroyed it with their own hands, and now they are complaining to the whole world that there are not enough officers... A list of military institutions is attached. (26 Dec. 22.) Russia under the rule of oligarchs.
      https://cont.ws/@ra-victory21/2449336
      The army will follow the example of Wagner PMCs, where officers are essentially not needed.
      It will be good if the army is restored to the level of the 90s, all these institutions are needed. Or how? This is how they are going to manage the army? Are there enough of these officers now? What if most of them are killed?
      The platoon should be controlled by a lieutenant platoon of 30 people
      To control an army of 2 million people you need 66 thousand officers
      The calculator at the Ministry of Defense must have broken down again. Just like they decided to attack Ukraine. Well, first we would prepare an army of 2 million people. It was, but in fact it turned out that there were only 500 thousand of those who could be sent.
      In fact, it turned out that there were many civilians in officer positions in the army
      The fact that they fart out 1000 officers is for 30 people

      What do we have now? Are there any plans to restore it? Doesn’t the example of Ukraine prove that the army needs to be revived; with the army, the greatness of the country was also lost
      They used to be afraid to touch us. And now our territory is being shelled
      Putin knows who was respected in the region, not because of a person’s brains, but because of his strength. So she rules the world.
      1. 0
        21 November 2023 02: 04
        In Russia, there are actually 35 higher military educational institutions, which graduated more than 12 thousand people a year.
        And the share of officers is completely different. In 2015, there were 900 thousand officers (200%) and 22 thousand warrant officers and midshipmen per 50 thousand. D
        Before Serdyukov’s reform, in 2008, officers made up 31% of the personnel.
      2. +4
        21 November 2023 11: 30
        Quote from Alexwar
        Wonderful are your works, Lord! First they destroyed it with their own hands, and now they are complaining to the whole world that there are not enough officers...

        The worst thing is that the army was complaining about the lack of officers even before Serdyukov. In those days, even the 300 available officers + the graduation of 000 lieutenants annually for an army with a strength of just over a million was too few; jackets had to be raked and sergeants appointed to officer positions.
        Maybe it's not the quantity? Maybe we need to sort out the staffing - if now there are not enough two officers for nine privates?
        1. 0
          21 November 2023 15: 49
          Until 2008, military universities of the Russian Federation graduated several tens of thousands of officers annually. I came across a figure - 40 lieutenants per year. But three-quarters quit immediately after graduation, or within 000-1 years, because they were paid less than a beggar on the porch. Money from the military budget was spent, among other things, on maintaining a monstrous and outdated educational structure, unnecessary for an army of millions, which was created for an army whose numbers were much, several times larger. The idea was to graduate several times fewer lieutenants (several times less compared to 2 thousand), and use the saved money to increase the salaries of their graduates, so that 40% of them would not quit immediately. The idea was more than sound, but the execution... As always. But it’s hard to say how the presence of dozens of additional military universities, whose graduates in the same way fled to civilian life as soon as they received officer’s shoulder straps, would radically change the course of the Northern Military District. That now most of the officers who retired from the army at one time do not knock on the thresholds of the military registration and enlistment offices, that they would hardly knock either.
          1. +2
            21 November 2023 17: 11
            Quote: UAZ 452
            Money from the military budget was spent, among other things, on maintaining a monstrous and outdated educational structure, unnecessary for an army of millions, which was created for an army whose numbers were much, several times larger.

            Not only. The money also went towards paper divisions, regiments and staff positions.
            According to the documents - a division, but in fact - a dilapidated skeleton: a headquarters, a handful of soldiers and a town with boxes and storage areas containing equipment that has long been out of order due to the impossibility of carrying out routine maintenance during storage. But this structure still attracts money.
            According to the documents - an air regiment. In fact, 2/3 of the cars rot in distant parking lots, and the crews are rotting for the squadron. And this is at best - the Air Force had divisions from which it was not possible to assemble even a regiment. And in the entire MRA there were only a couple of squadrons of living vehicles with crews.
            But the normal parts proudly appear in all the reports. Why? But because there is a third component - staff positions, often left over from Soviet times. Those same headquarters standing above the skeletons of divisions, paper air regiments and brigades of a couple of ships. Because when the formations subordinate to them are brought back to normal, these headquarters and positions will simply disappear - an army headquarters is not needed for a pair of combat aircraft, and an air division and a corps are not needed for four squadrons. So, for three air regiments in the Far East after the reform, the control of one regiment was enough, although the zoo there turned out to be a notable one - Su-27, Su-30 and MiG-31.
            Quote: UAZ 452
            But it’s hard to say how the presence of dozens of additional military universities, whose graduates in the same way fled to civilian life as soon as they received officer’s shoulder straps, would radically change the course of the Northern Military District.

            So... what's the problem here? Either targeted distribution (until you serve N years, you won’t quit), or the possibility of dismissal immediately after graduation only after paying the state the entire cost of education (including accommodation and all types of allowances).
            Anyone who doesn’t like it has nothing to do. This is not an emergency; you don’t get into higher educational institutions through the military registration and enlistment office. wink
        2. Aag
          0
          21 November 2023 18: 30
          "... Maybe it's not a matter of numbers? Maybe we need to sort out the staffing - if now there are not enough two officers for nine privates?..."
          It looks like the states have already been dealt with. (((
          In the 29th rd Strategic Missile Forces, the swearing-in of young recruits took place. As many as 40 (forty!!!) people! For the entire division!
          And Irkutsk TV pompously reports about this.
          Yes, the formation was greatly “optimized”. In the 90s there were four missile regiments and more than two dozen separate units and subunits (including a helicopter squadron)... And now even the TRB and RTB are guarded by VOKHR members from military pensions (some are under sixty). Tech the very ones who 30 years ago, as officers and warrant officers, were forced to perform their functions and replace the missing soldiers and sergeants. If the staffing level with officers and warrant officers was about 90%, then with/sergeants there were less than 10!
          Contract workers have now been recruited for many positions. The parking lot for personal vehicles, with an area larger than the division's parade ground, is full.
          Only the quality of these contract soldiers... I would like to see how the girl signalmen will deploy the AMU (antenna-mast device), camouflage the unit... Yes, at least let them wear a gas mask!
          Here, many commentators are indignant about “stepping,” drill training. So, in my opinion, it was lost a long time ago (and then - and much more): how many times have I seen the picture - moving... a group of w/sl-s. It’s hard to say that the sergeant is leading the line. I'm not talking about marching, bearing, etc. No. I’m not a fan on this basis. But, you see, it’s too much when in the department you can count eight (!) ways of wearing military uniforms (military uniforms). I'm talking about discipline. And those who say that maybe he (the sergeant) is a good specialist will not convince me! Maybe. Only as an exception... hi
    35. +1
      21 November 2023 01: 44
      Aviation has become powerless as before, we need a lot more missiles. Plus, I think we need monitoring devices, for example a device the size of a cell phone but with a good camera that could hover over the enemy and calculate coordinates.
    36. +10
      21 November 2023 06: 51
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      It is not surprising that the USSR lost the Cold War - ill-considered spending on the military-industrial complex devoured the economy.

      Another gaydar. Throughout the world, the military-industrial complex is one of the most highly profitable industries, and only in the USSR was it “designated” unprofitable.
      If you distribute its products free of charge to the “Afropop builders of socialism”, and even write off multi-billion dollar debts, then even drug trafficking or prostitution will be unprofitable.
    37. +3
      21 November 2023 09: 01
      Another hello to Serdyukovism.
    38. +2
      21 November 2023 10: 25
      The logic of our leaders is interesting. In Krasnodar, the Rocket School was disbanded, then the military departments at the University (anti-aircraft gunners) and the Polytechnic Institute (artillerymen) were closed, but the Department with military motorists was left in the Agricultural Department.
      1. -2
        21 November 2023 22: 34
        Quote: Zaurbek
        The logic of our leaders is interesting

        The “Kissinger-Sobchak Commission,” from which Putin came into politics, was exclusively engaged in sabotage of the Soviet military-industrial complex.
    39. +1
      21 November 2023 13: 06
      My deep couch opinion.
      The school is for cadets, and the Academy for student officers is great and it would be nice to quickly do so. There is no point in keeping them in the same buildings. It's not even worth it in the city alone.
      It is possible to open on the basis of one of the old schools. The main thing is that there is a training ground nearby. Ekaterinburg is probably the best place.
      The teaching staff will be recruited from the academy and military personnel - artillerymen/rocketmen who cannot serve further after being wounded, but who want to serve their Motherland. This is where knowledge and experience will be transferred.
      The material base must be created with both new samples and old ones. It would also be nice to have foreign samples there.
      Nothing complicated for the state.
    40. 0
      21 November 2023 13: 57
      It seems like it’s high time to create something like a school for drone operators... they are no less needed than artillerymen, and maybe more...
    41. +2
      21 November 2023 13: 59
      15 years ago our Mikhailovskoye Kolomenskoye VACU was destroyed, and now we are looking for where to open a new one.
      Terrific! wassat negative
    42. +2
      21 November 2023 14: 20
      First we destroy, then we revive, first we close, then we open. As a result, the result, at best, is zero, but most likely negative since time and personnel were lost. And only a few cadres continue to lead the country...
    43. +1
      21 November 2023 14: 42
      Quote: zelivee
      The main question remains: where to find teaching staff? After Taburetkin's reforms.

      And most importantly: Taburetkin did not sit down!
      1. -3
        21 November 2023 22: 36
        Quote: Luenkov
        the main thing: Taburetkin didn’t sit down!

        Horror: the switchman did not sit down!
    44. +2
      21 November 2023 15: 02
      Military Technical University (Balashikha) - disbanded in 2015
      Military Red Banner Institute (Moscow) - disbanded in 1994
      Military Institute of Radio Electronics (Voronezh) - disbanded in 2006
      Samara Military Medical Institute - disbanded in 2010
      Saratov Military Medical Institute - disbanded in 2010
      Tomsk Military Medical Institute - disbanded in 2010
      Military Veterinary Institute (Moscow) - disbanded in 2010
      Nizhny Novgorod (Gorky) Higher Military School of Logistics named after Marshal of the Soviet Union I. Kh. Bagramyan - disbanded in 1999
      Ulyanovsk Higher Military Technical School named after Bogdan Khmelnitsky - disbanded in 2011
      Far Eastern Higher Military Automotive Command and Engineering School - disbanded in 2007
      Ryazan Military Automotive Institute named after Army General V.P. Dubynin - disbanded in 2010
      Chelyabinsk Higher Military Automotive Command and Engineering School - disbanded in 2010
      Volzhsky Higher Military Construction Command School (Dubna) - disbanded
      Gorky Higher Military Construction Command School (Kstovo) - disbanded
      Kamyshin Higher Military Construction Command School - disbanded
      Tolyatti Military Technical Institute - disbanded in 2010
      Khabarovsk Higher Military Construction Command School - disbanded in 1992
      Military Financial and Economic Institute - disbanded in 2010
      Military Institute for Advanced Training of Specialists of Mobilization Authorities (Saratov) - disbanded in 2011
      Higher officer orders of Lenin and the October Revolution, Red Banner Courses “Shot” named after Marshal of the Soviet Union B. M. Shaposhnikov (Solnechnogorsk) - disbanded in 2009
      St. Petersburg Higher Combined Arms Command School - disbanded in 1999
      Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command Twice Red Banner School named after M. V. Frunze - disbanded in 1999
      Ordzhonikidzovsky Higher Combined Arms Command Twice Red Banner School named after Marshal of the Soviet Union A. I. Eremenko - disbanded in 1993
      Blagoveshchensk Higher Tank Command Red Banner School named after Marshal of the Soviet Union K. A. Meretskov - disbanded in 1999
      Chelyabinsk Tank Institute - disbanded in 2007

      Yekaterinburg Higher Artillery Command School - disbanded in 2011
      Kolomna Higher Artillery Command School - disbanded in 2008
      St. Petersburg Higher Artillery Command School - disbanded in 1993
      Kazan Higher Artillery Command School - disbanded in 2008
      Saratov Higher Military Command and Engineering Red Banner, Order of the Red Star School of Missile Forces named after Hero of the Soviet Union Major General A. I. Lizyukov - disbanded in 2003
      Penza Artillery Engineering Institute named after Chief Marshal of Artillery N.N. Voronova - since 2012 - branch of the Military Academy of Logistics named after Army General A.V. Khrulev
      Tula Artillery Engineering Institute - disbanded in 2010

      Kemerovo Higher Military Command School of Communications named after Marshal of Signal Corps I. T. Peresypkin - disbanded in 2009
      Novocherkassk Higher Military Command School of Communications - disbanded in 2011
      Ryazan Higher Military Command School of Communications - disbanded in 2011
      Tomsk Higher Military Command School of Communications - disbanded in 1999
      Ulyanovsk Higher Military Command School of Communications - disbanded in 2008
      St. Petersburg Higher Military Engineering School of Communications - disbanded in 2000
      Military Engineering Academy (Moscow) - since 2006 - as part of the Combined Arms Academy
      Nizhny Novgorod Military Institute of Engineering Troops - disbanded in 2012
      Tambov Higher Military Command Red Banner School of Chemical Defense named after N. I. Podvoisky - disbanded in 2003
      Saratov Military Institute of Biological and Chemical Safety - disbanded in 2012
      St. Petersburg Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School of the Order of the Red Star - disbanded in 1998
      Orenburg Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile School (military institute) - disbanded in 2008
      Air Force Academy named after Yu. A. Gagarin (Monino) - disbanded in 2011
      Leningrad Higher Military-Political School of Air Defense - disbanded in 1992
      Nizhny Novgorod Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School of Air Defense - disbanded in 1999
      Engel Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School of Air Defense - disbanded in 1994
      St. Petersburg Higher Military School of Radio Electronics - disbanded in 2011
      Krasnoyarsk Higher Command School of Radioelectronics for Air Defense - disbanded in 1998
      Stavropol Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots and Navigators - disbanded in 2010
      Kurgan Military Aviation Technical School - disbanded in 1995
      Barnaul Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots named after Chief Marshal of Aviation K. A. Vershinin - disbanded in 1999
      Yeisk Higher Military Aviation Order of Lenin Pilot School named after twice Hero of the Soviet Union, pilot-cosmonaut of the USSR V. M. Komarov - disbanded in 2011
      Kachinsky Higher Military Aviation Order of Lenin, Red Banner Pilot School named after A.F. Myasnikov (Volgograd) - disbanded in 1998
      Orenburg Higher Military Aviation Red Banner Pilot School named after twice Hero of the Soviet Union I. S. Polbin - disbanded in 1993
      Tambov Higher Military Aviation Red Banner Pilot School named after M. M. Raskova - disbanded in 1995
      Ufa Higher Military Aviation School of Pilots - disbanded in 1999
      Daugavpils Higher Military Aviation Engineering School - disbanded in 1993
      Irkutsk Higher Military Aviation Engineering School - disbanded in 2009
      Tambov Higher Military Aviation Engineering School - disbanded in 2009
      Achinsk Military Aviation Technical School - disbanded in 1999
      Kaliningrad Military Aviation Technical School - disbanded in 1994
      Kirov Military Aviation Technical School - disbanded in 2007
      Lomonosov Military Aviation Technical School (Lebyazhye) - disbanded in 1994
      Perm Military Aviation Technical School named after Lenin Komsomol - disbanded in 1999
      Krasnodar Higher Military Command and Engineering School of Missile Forces - disbanded in 1998
      Perm Military Institute of Missile Forces - disbanded in 2003
      Rostov Military Institute of Missile Forces - disbanded in 2011
      Serpukhov Military Institute of Missile Forces - since 2009 - branch of the Military Academy of the Strategic Missile Forces named after Peter the Great
      Stavropol Military Institute of Communications of the Missile Forces - disbanded in 2010
      And does someone naive think that they will learn something?.....When the civil war ends - everything will go according to the “pre-planned scenario”
      1. +3
        21 November 2023 16: 40
        "Garant" will again broadcast about the "crisis of the 90s"? If you look at the dates of liquidation of educational institutions, there are very big questions...
        1. 0
          21 November 2023 21: 57
          It’s sad, of course, because in these educational institutions there were specialists and trained personnel, all these are the fates of people who served for the good of our homeland, it is unclear how their fate turned out and where they are now, whether they continue to train specialists or are already in civilian life, although I understand that many are already pensioners.
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    46. +1
      21 November 2023 17: 32
      Such a soldier is invincible (Exercise "West - 81").
      Listen to what they say. What did we have and what is left?
      This video is from 1981, what has changed in history since the wars are over? Or is it not as they say that we need peace? And for peace we need a strong army.
      This needs to be shown to everyone and the corpses of those who die in Ukraine.
      5 million fought in the civil war, 10 million in the Great Patriotic War. And after the revolution, the army was 500 thousand and we were attacked again. And this happens when we reduce the army.
      You hear a voice, this is a voice since 1981, and what they say now doesn’t change.
      At first the West hated the Russian Empire, then the USSR, now Russia
      No matter who rules us, we will always be their enemies.
      You look at the Soviet parades and how they threaten us now, but nothing has changed.
      Right now they began to develop the army and the economy forcibly, and growth began and wages began to rise. This is the country moving forward
      The United States is dragging the best production from China into the country, in fact they are not allowing anyone to develop, they are looking for reasons to start wars, they are looking for nationalist fools who are thirsty for blood
      Why was it necessary to collapse the USSR if we lived well in the 80s, everything was fine. No one really needed anything Western.
      It is better for our country to live by its own rules; China moved and developed according to its own rules.
      Why did we change everything? I think we would have gone far with production. The people would live happily. Everything was destroyed. Well, probably not under Putin, all these military schools will be restored, the people are FOR the restoration of the schools. Except for some reason the Ministry of Defense, which cannot win now. Who don't need officers who win
      Out of the entire mass there will be few generals who can win.
      In the war with Ukraine, we approached it like in 1941 with a collapsed army
    47. -4
      21 November 2023 18: 36
      Quote: Aerodrome
      under the current Commander-in-Chief and Defense Ministry Taburetkin, a lot of things have been reduced.

      Without a bunch of well-known authority regarding the above-mentioned, the day is going to waste, right?
    48. +1
      21 November 2023 19: 08
      They realized it, but it was too late. There's a lot of stuff that can't be sorted out in a hundred years. And there is absolutely no one to blame. Effective managers disarmed the country. And everyone who was involved in this obscenity and led it feels great and eats well.
    49. +2
      21 November 2023 21: 38
      In the second year of the war, our bosses began to suspect something. And how many schools were put under the knife? I won’t even ask who will answer for this. Nobody.
    50. 0
      21 November 2023 21: 50
      I remember when military departments in universities were closed, many thought that this was wrong, then a few years later the schools were already closed, they say, reforms and all that, for example, in Orenburg, they closed the tap-hole and anti-aircraft gun, many said that the country didn’t need them, but mine my father swore, it’s a pity that there were no competent people in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense then, although even now there are many questions.
    51. -1
      21 November 2023 22: 51
      This Taburetkin Serdyukov, who closed the Kazan Artillery School and many others, should be exiled to Kolyma for 20 years or to the Northern Military District. Let him find out what it’s like to fight without properly trained artillery personnel.
      1. 0
        22 November 2023 11: 56
        He is an instrument in the hands of those who made the decision. Who needs to be seated - there are not enough fingers on both hands. "Who's going to put them in prison..."
    52. -1
      21 November 2023 23: 40
      Why are they creating all this now? Was it worth closing, otherwise there might have been more people willing to serve?
    53. 0
      22 November 2023 00: 29
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      The old has been destroyed - we are creating a new one!
      Where were your brains, gentlemen with big stars, in those years when they destroyed?
      The brains were there! They destroyed it - it flowed into your pocket. We create - it flows again!

      Eh, my dear... it has always been like this everywhere.
      IS ALWAYS.
      AND EVERYWHERE,
    54. +1
      22 November 2023 05: 30
      Here you go. And here, on the site of the former rocket school, we built another swimming pool with a megamarket. N. Novgorod.
    55. +2
      22 November 2023 06: 24
      all complaints about the amazing overhauls of military higher education in Russia are addressed only to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. It is “long-lasting” for us... and covered the quarter-century period of “formation” of the entire Russian Armed Forces. it was his orders that were carried out by the Russian ministers of defense - stools, mugs, lozhkins... and other utensils.... there will always be switchmen for such purposes. The sun is not to blame for anything.
    56. +2
      22 November 2023 07: 09
      Why think about it, our Tula artukha. The place can be said to be prayed for. It was closed not long ago. And the manufacturer of tornadoes and hurricanes is nearby.
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    58. 0
      22 November 2023 10: 18
      But don’t they want to ask those who ruined everything and optimized it?
      1. 0
        22 November 2023 11: 50
        So ask yourself how? A leader is a worker of hard mental work. Daily verbal diarrhea on TV is not an indicator of competence and awareness of what needs to be done. We need to see the perspective of the decisions being made. And our problem is led by traders and accountants who live for today.
    59. 0
      22 November 2023 11: 27
      Need a school? What a surprise!
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