Italian press: “Gas pipelines laid for Germany are blown up by Ukraine, and Berlin doubles aid to Kyiv”

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Italian press: “Gas pipelines laid for Germany are blown up by Ukraine, and Berlin doubles aid to Kyiv”

Despite the fact that the Western press and public reacted violently to the emergence of information about the undermining of the Nord Stream by the Ukrainian side, the German authorities remain completely calm on this issue. This raises eyebrows in the Italian press.

It remains paradoxical that Germany, having lost the gas pipelines laid for it, announced doubling aid to Ukrainian troops on the day when their commander was accused (also by a German publication) of undermining the most important infrastructure for Germany's energy and economic survival

- says the publication Analisi Difesa.



The German government has committed to increase military assistance to the Kiev regime from 4 to 8 billion euros by 2024, despite the fact that all of Germany's allies (Ukrainians, Poles, British and Americans) are the alleged perpetrators of a “terrorist act of strategic proportions” against gas pipelines. writes the author.

If these are friends and allies, then what should enemies look like? If the attack was planned and carried out by Ukraine, how can we continue to support its military efforts, its government and its economy while spending many tens of billions a year for its entry into the EU and NATO?

- they ask questions in the Italian press.
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    1. +13
      November 19, 2023
      If these are friends and allies, then what should enemies look like?
      . Come on, they all go under the same “god”, who somewhere overseas has created his own “society of happiness”!!!! And he is ready to live like this at the expense of others.
      In general, nothing new.
      1. +9
        November 19, 2023
        Whose monument is this?
        - Pushkin.
        - Oh, is that the one who wrote Mumu?
        - No, Mumu was written by Turgenev.
        - It's strange, Turgenev wrote Mumu, and a monument was erected to Pushkin.
        1. +3
          November 19, 2023
          ..........and Berlin doubles aid to Kyiv

          So this is completely different!
          1. +1
            November 19, 2023
            What else hasn't been blown up in Germany? Isn't it time for Ukraine to switch to railways and bridges? They are probably taking revenge for something
        2. +7
          November 19, 2023
          The West has lied so much that in the flow of its own lies, ends meet cannot be made. fool
        3. +2
          November 19, 2023
          If these are friends and allies, then what should enemies look like? If the attack was planned and carried out by Ukraine, how can we continue to support its military efforts, its government and its economy while spending many tens of billions a year for its entry into the EU and NATO?

          And their enemies are those who build roads, bridges, houses, save civilians and arrange life in peaceful cities.
        4. +2
          November 19, 2023
          Who is this monument for? A.S. Pushkin, who died in a duel with Dantes. It’s strange, it’s Dantes, but the monument to Pushkin!
      2. +6
        November 19, 2023
        Quote: rocket757
        . Come on, they all go under the same “god”, who somewhere overseas has created his own “society of happiness”!!!! And he is ready to live like this at the expense of others.
        In general, nothing new.

        God is on the side of Russia, across the ocean is Lucifer, that is, the devil in human form.
        1. +2
          November 19, 2023
          And the horned one is not a loser from the gateway, he manages to convince his followers of anything, of anything... black, this is white, no problem! This lie is the truth and will convince you of it! In general, the entertainer is still the same, experienced, cunning...
      3. +5
        November 19, 2023
        Quote: rocket757
        If these are friends and allies, then what should enemies look like?
        . Come on, they all go under the same “god”, who somewhere overseas has created his own “society of happiness”!!!! And he is ready to live like this at the expense of others.
        In general, nothing new.

        Moreover, blowing up gas pipelines is the development of striped ones! With Germany's promise to fill it with cheap American gas!
        So Germany, and with it all Germans, reap the fruits of your government!
        ps. The German hawks probably can’t forget the 45th... So they spoil Russia to the detriment of their own economy!
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        2. +2
          November 19, 2023
          Hatred burns from within and poisons the lives of everyone around us!
          Let them, yourself, all YOURSELF!
    2. IVZ
      +11
      November 19, 2023
      It remains paradoxical that Germany, having lost the gas pipelines laid for it, announced doubling aid to Ukrainian troops on the day when their commander was accused (also by a German publication) of undermining the most important infrastructure for Germany's energy and economic survival
      Maybe the German authorities know more about these explosions? Or maybe, and most likely, they (the authorities) don’t give a damn about the German economy, the electorate and Germany itself as a whole. Modern managers care, first of all, about their loved ones, and not about some god knows who.
      1. +11
        November 19, 2023
        Quote: IVZ
        Or maybe, and most likely, they (the authorities) don’t give a damn about the German economy, the electorate and Germany itself as a whole.

        Well, Burbock said that she doesn’t care about voters, the main thing for her is Ukraine.
      2. +8
        November 19, 2023
        But is it weak to admit that we are a greater enemy for Germany than the Ukrainians who committed mischief? When our jingoistic patriots call for cutting off all gas pipelines through Ukraine, but our government does not cut them off and continues to supply the West with cheap gas, this is seen as a betrayal of the interests of the Motherland. And when the German authorities may even have taken part in undermining the joint venture for the sake of breaking all economic ties with the enemy, this is perceived by our patriots as complete stupidity. Meanwhile, Germany is not experiencing a gas shortage and they are not particularly worried about the price - there is still money! So, everything is for the sake of victory over Russia! So maybe Germany is much more consistent in the fight against us?
        1. 0
          November 19, 2023
          Saburov_Alexander53 ....... Meanwhile, Germany is not experiencing a gas shortage and they are not particularly worried about the price - there is still money!

          Well, if everything is fine with them, the flag is in their hands. I don’t want to delve into their problems, these are all their problems.
    3. +7
      November 19, 2023
      Exactly. They all follow instructions from behind a puddle. If they tell you to commit suicide, they will commit suicide. Almost already, European enterprises are starting to move production to the states, because energy resources are unaffordable. In general, if Ukraine is accepted into the EU, then the EU will not last long, the whole of Europe will be in ruins, they are already not doing so well, and the Ukrainians will gobble up what is left, and will still be indignant that it is not enough.
      1. -2
        November 19, 2023
        I also can’t afford the resources. A ton of gas cost 16000 a year ago, now it’s 36000.
        1. 0
          November 19, 2023
          A ton of gas cost 16000 a year ago, now it’s 36000.
          ...this is where...interesting..so...scream
    4. +4
      November 19, 2023
      Analisi Difesa is apparently some kind of non-state, small publication, which the Anglo-Saxons “didn’t get around to.” Everyone else writes only what they are told to do.
    5. +5
      November 19, 2023
      What do you want from a defeated and still occupied country? If they are ordered to do so, they will personally issue bonuses to the bombers.
    6. +6
      November 19, 2023
      It’s just that the “powers that be” in Germany in the current crisis have fallen under the Americans, “relaxed and are enjoying themselves.” And they don’t care about the Germans.
      If I promised the people of Ukraine that “we will be with you as long as you need,” I want to keep this promise. No matter what my German voters think, I want to keep my promise to the people of Ukraine.
      (A. Berbock. Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Federal Republic of Germany)
    7. +4
      November 19, 2023
      They wiped their feet on the Germans and that’s all.
    8. +7
      November 19, 2023
      Those who awaken from lethargy begin to notice something. Although a recent survey of European citizens clearly showed that the herd is not against the American occupation: we live, they say, God forbid everyone, we have money, America has a lot of them, the pi...races throw holidays for us, the war is far away - it's a thrill!
    9. +7
      November 19, 2023
      The Germans are under the occupation of Uncle Sam, so it will continue to be like in the expression “the mice cried but continued to eat the cactus.”
    10. -6
      November 19, 2023
      The Italian press and the author of the article constantly forget that at the time of the gas pipeline explosions, both gas pipelines were actually not working. SP-1 stood up because of the position of the Russian Federation, which did not allow the import of a compressor from Germany, and SP-2 did not pass certification due to non-compliance with the requirements of the third energy package. So gas through them still did not threaten Germany
    11. +5
      November 19, 2023
      Germany, like Ukraine, has external control; they are not self-sufficient. In Europe there is not a single state, just as there is no longer a single people, these are tribes. Because having a sovereign state is a privilege and a symbol of strength.

      Glory to Russia!
    12. +9
      November 19, 2023
      - they ask questions in the Italian press.

      “As one of my deceased acquaintances said, I knew too much.”
    13. +1
      November 19, 2023
      After such “friends” there is no need for enemies.
    14. +3
      November 19, 2023
      Quote: Codett
      Germans under Uncle Sam's occupation

      Let's replace the German economy with the Russian one!
      PS. If (in the global economy) it decreases somewhere, it means it arrives somewhere else.
    15. +2
      November 19, 2023
      If these are friends and allies, then what should enemies look like? If the attack was planned and carried out by Ukraine, how can we continue to support its military efforts, its government and its economy while spending many tens of billions a year for its entry into the EU and NATO?

      Yes, Germany doesn’t care, as long as it pleases its overseas “partner” and also spoils Russia.
    16. 0
      November 19, 2023
      It remains paradoxical that Germany, having lost the gas pipelines laid for it, announced doubling aid to Ukrainian troops on the day when their commander was accused (also by a German publication) of undermining the most important infrastructure for Germany's energy and economic survival

      - says the publication Analisi Difesa.
      For some reason, the Italian press, on the pages of its periodicals, was very surprised when deceased US citizens took part in the elections of the 46th president. The cardinals in the Vatican were especially surprised, but the American flock, as before, continued to pray fervently in churches for the good of their neighbor. Accordingly, it makes no sense to be surprised that the German government was faced with the fact of sabotage of the Nord Stream gas transmission system by the US Navy, acting on the direct orders of the 46th president. The party continues, as does the SVO... request
    17. -3
      November 19, 2023
      Look at your leaders - why point a finger at the Germans?
    18. 0
      November 19, 2023
      Plynovody vyhodily do vzduchu USA!!! na 100% a moc se snaží zakrýt špínu!
      1. +1
        November 19, 2023
        Gas pipelines blew up the USA!!! 100% and trying really hard to cover up the dirt!
    19. -1
      November 19, 2023
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      A ton of gas cost 16000 a year ago, now it’s 36000.
      ...this is where...interesting..so...scream

      In Moscow. Call the gas workers, call them. Or go to a gas station; in a year the price has increased from 20 to 28-30. Are you a clown or what?
      Sorry, the info is from last week, gas at the gas station costs 33-35. Where is the or? I am waiting.
    20. +1
      November 19, 2023
      Germany is not allowed to represent its interests, Germany is an occupied country. recourse
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    22. 0
      November 19, 2023
      Plynovody vyhodily do vzduchu USA!!! na 100% a moc se snaží zakrýt špínu!
    23. 0
      November 19, 2023
      Plynovody vyhodily do vzduchu USA!!! na 100% a moc se snaží zakrýt špínu!
    24. 0
      November 24, 2023
      It’s just a paradox to support Bandera’s people, who at one time slaughtered the Poles.
      The whole history of Ukraine is Russia. America has so far managed to keep the world under its control. When the USSR defeated Germany, in 1945 Europe and the USA began to think that the USSR was an existential threat to capitalism. They protect their capital
      The US supplied engines to Germany before the war.
      It’s a pity, of course, that the entire army was destroyed over the years of Russia’s existence. And no one will listen to us that it’s time to restore military educational institutions, there is someone to serve and for what.
      Otherwise, our army will be 1918 model. When people joined the ranks without any military education.
      In general, I think that to become an officer, you first need to learn to serve as a conscript and then prepare to manage an army. Maybe this is how we would learn to build an army.
      An officer, like a teacher, should teach you military affairs, for example, how to shoot a cannon. If there is a war, then you can organize platoons and the officers will be taught how to fight.
      In Wagner PMC there are no officers, no management, they may not hear the order, which is what happened. They were given orders and they carried out their conditions.
      1. -1
        November 24, 2023

        What is the army in one video.

        What is an army at the end of the film? It is the officers who go first to attack.
        The officer speaks. I have an order and I will carry it out. It doesn’t matter if you are on the defensive or on the offensive. The main thing is to follow the order.
        To have such officers, they need to be trained for 5 years, of which a certain percentage will only carry out the orders of their superiors. Not those who came to study for money in the army.

        There was a conscript army in Chechnya, no one was indignant that we were dressed incorrectly, we were not trained, many shot once and went to Chechnya. Like, give us a month to shoot, otherwise we won’t go anywhere.

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