Footage of Israeli Merkava tanks damaged in the Gaza Strip being evacuated to the rear is shown.

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Footage of Israeli Merkava tanks damaged in the Gaza Strip being evacuated to the rear is shown.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) is conducting a ground military operation in the Gaza Strip, fighting with the Palestinian Hamas movement. Despite Israeli assurances that the Palestinian forces will soon be defeated, it is obvious that the ground operation is not as easy for Israel as it might seem.

The military wing of the Hamas movement, the al-Qassam Brigades, claim that just yesterday their fighters destroyed 21 units of Israeli armored vehicles. Probably among them there are not only armored vehicles, but also Tanks "Merkava" in service with the Israeli ground forces.



Statements by Hamas representatives should hardly be considered bravado. Footage of the evacuation of Israeli Merkava tanks damaged in the Gaza Strip to the rear is being circulated on social networks. The tanks were damaged quite seriously.




In general, the confrontation between Hamas and the Israeli army has largely dispelled the myth about the power of the IDF ground forces. If aviation “works out” on the Palestinian enclave very powerfully, turning the once vibrant city into ruins, then the ground units are clearly poorly prepared.




Military experts draw attention to errors in the movement of units engaged in “cleansing” in an urban environment, and to huge columns of armored vehicles that are vulnerable to enemy strikes, and to the outright weakness of the protection of Israeli tanks, which are quite easily knocked out by inferiorly armed Palestinian formations.
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  1. +20
    17 November 2023 21: 12
    And someone wrote that Hamas RPGs have near-zero effectiveness...

    They were burning, burning and not going to stop. A miracle did not happen, the vaunted merkavs with trophies burn no worse than leopards

    Well, the number of dead Israeli soldiers also seems to be no longer in the dozens. If the burned armored vehicles are already measured in a three-digit number, then the human losses are probably in the four-digit range
    1. +4
      18 November 2023 00: 00
      So why be surprised? The specialists have already said that it’s a Merkava box, without armor. There was a video, the active protection hit the cornet missile on approach, the cumulative jet of the ash tree stump did not work, but the pestles broke through and the tink caught fire. Cardboard.
    2. +2
      18 November 2023 00: 11
      RPG essentially does not have near-zero efficiency. It is 100 percent when hit. Knock out the block, or without a block, into the inter-roller space. One knocked out a block, a section, the second killed the tank.
    3. +4
      18 November 2023 01: 56
      parabyd
      Yesterday, 21: 12
      NEW
      +11
      And someone wrote that Hamas RPGs have near-zero effectiveness...

      Yes, yes! They were tearing the bales on themselves here, the Oselad-Peys"...
      Hey, "warrior with a nose", and so on and so forth like him, admire the work of an ordinary RPG-7!
      Footage of Israeli Merkava tanks damaged in the Gaza Strip being evacuated to the rear is shown.
    4. -4
      18 November 2023 10: 10
      They were burning, burning and not going to stop. A miracle did not happen, the vaunted merkavs with trophies burn no worse than leopards

      Did you understand from the pictures where there are 1,5 slightly damaged tanks?
      If the burned armored vehicles are already measured in a three-digit number
      Yeah, another week and the tanks will run out! laughing
  2. +40
    17 November 2023 21: 12
    They are only capable of fighting with women and children. And then remotely.
    Fascists! If you fight Hamas, fight them. There is no need to refer to the fact that the Palestinians support them. In Ukraine, the population also supports the Ukrainian Reich, but we do not organize bloodbaths for them. Although for the “civilizational” West it is different.
    1. +16
      17 November 2023 21: 28
      If we count kilotons, then no less was dumped on Gaza in a month than on Ukraine in a year and a half.
      1. +7
        17 November 2023 22: 04
        Quote: Michael
        If we count kilotons, then no less was dumped on Gaza in a month than on Ukraine in a year and a half.

        It's enviable. If Israel had fucked Avdeevka for a day, then there would be no living Ukrainians there.
        1. -4
          17 November 2023 22: 49
          Quote: Rumata
          It's enviable. If Israel had fucked Avdeevka for a day,


          And Fefer and Mikhoels really asked Stalin, and simply insisted, to give up Crimea for the Jews. And rename it to Israel. Right in 1944. They say we will restore everything there with our backbreaking labor.
    2. +35
      17 November 2023 21: 50
      During the three weeks of the ground operation, Tsahal was unable to produce a single eliminated Hamas member, did not release a single hostage, but managed to send more than 11 thousand civilians to the next world. This is all you need to know about the tactics and ideology of the Zionist state
    3. +27
      17 November 2023 22: 41
      Quote: Anarchist
      They are only capable of fighting with women and children. And then remotely.
      Fascists!

      Israel loves to persistently and diligently remind everyone in the world about the Holocaust, about the Jewish victims who died at the hands of the Nazis, even now at the UN the Israeli delegation has put on yellow stars. And I watched a video where in a hospital in Gaza, premature Palestinian babies died in incubators due to a power outage, I saw women and children who died in intensive care units. For you, it's just collateral damage. How do you Jews differ from terrorists? Your instructors, in an embrace with Bandera’s followers, fought in Ukraine, I don’t feel sorry for you at all anymore, you yourself are on the same level as terrorists, you achieved your goal, I don’t feel sorry for you anymore along with your Holocaust, you crossed out everything.
    4. +2
      18 November 2023 09: 01
      There was some information, they say, in the narrow circles of the elite of Israel, someone was saddened when they saw the birth rate statistics in Palestine. Apparently, then the plan with Hamas matured.
  3. +12
    17 November 2023 21: 40
    If the aviation is “working out” very powerfully in the Palestinian enclave, turning the once bustling city into ruins, then the ground units are clearly poorly prepared.
    Well, she's not in any danger. If only Hamas had air defense...
    1. -6
      18 November 2023 10: 19
      Well, if there had been air defense, the same thing would have happened to it as with the Soviet-Syrian air defense in 1982 or with Russian armor in Syria wink
      1. +3
        18 November 2023 13: 08
        What happened to the Russian Shells in Syria? They still stand as they stood in their positions.
  4. -41
    17 November 2023 21: 43
    Of the 50 killed during the ground operation in Gaza
    military personnel - only two tankers.
    That's all you need to know about the Merkava tank.
    1. +28
      17 November 2023 21: 47
      Yes, we already realized that the Israeli tank is cooler than the Palestinian one.
      Also, Israeli fighters are much cooler than Palestinian bombers...
      oh, excuse me, but those who came in large numbers did not allow the Palestinians to create their own state, that’s bad luck...
      So nothing counts, non-existent people can be destroyed...
      why does THIS remind me of November 9, 1938... strange
    2. +8
      17 November 2023 22: 19
      Warrior... you held a candle and probably have your own companions?
      Whatever you say, you are aware of EVERYTHING.
      Also position the merkava as a tank.... a barn with a jacuzzi and a blackjack, which only from the cumulus can do something in the forehead. Even the Abrams is tiny lol And then they are burned with old rays quite successfully. It's just an armored personnel carrier with a cannon and a tank turret.
      1. -4
        17 November 2023 23: 07
        Quote from Enceladus
        It's just an armored personnel carrier with a cannon and a tank turret.

        We'll break the tank's tracks.
        Yeah, but with what?
        Well, let's try sticky bombs.
        Sticky bombs, sir?
        Sir, did you just come up with this idea?
        No. This is in the combat manual.
        If you want, you can look.
        Well, we have no instructions here, sir.
        But perhaps you can enlighten us.
        Great, you have explosives, right?
        For example, tol or a mixture of class "B"?
        Sir, there's definitely a lot of this stuff.
        The bridge is so stuffed with Class B mixture that it would be enough to blow it up twice.
        Great, you can take some from there.
        You take an ordinary army sock, fill it to the top with explosives, insert a fire cord, and smear this thing with a layer of grease.
        So when you throw it, it sticks.
        This bomb sticks. Sticky bomb.
        You can't think of a better way to destroy the tracks of a tank.
        I'm all ears.
        This is good.
        You'll have to sacrifice your socks, though. (Forrest Gump, oh, I got it wrong - Saving Private Ryan)
        1. +4
          17 November 2023 23: 56
          Is this banter directed at whom? recourse
          ..............................
    3. +11
      17 November 2023 22: 31
      Of the 50 killed during the ground operation in Gaza
      military personnel - only two tankers.

      Well, yes, where are the tankers from, there are only terrorists there, specialists in peacekeeping
      1. +2
        18 November 2023 00: 42
        He's been shallow, he's been shallow... The only warrior here is howling, wow, what a freak... that's probably why he's not in the gas right now, but scribbling on the forums.
        I remember getting a job at the State Center for Social Sciences.... the head of the Security Service told me... you are an interesting person with a military serviceman in the USSR and a salary of 999000 wassat they did break through
    4. 0
      17 November 2023 22: 32
      Does the Trophy protection system on the Merkava affect infantry tactics around the tank? Is Trophy dangerous for infantry?
      1. +1
        17 November 2023 23: 09
        There is a certain threat due to fragments, about 1% probability of damage. Hence the tactics
      2. +6
        18 November 2023 00: 37
        We even had a ban on being within 50 meters of the DZ... when the crew was being pulled out, a beam would fly in... Concussion and shrapnel... I can only tell you more based on what I didn't say. I can't say anything about the trophy and arena, etc.... but in theory there would be a dense stream of shrapnel, but that's if you're lucky, I think 50-50, because the beam itself or the missile from the ATGM could explode... and there are a lot of shrapnel from them. If there's a minimum of concussion nearby + it'll cut up your legs and arms, and that's good, if it doesn't hit a vein or artery... There's enough energy to go a couple of cm into the body... and into the face, etc. There's not enough energy for more, because they're too small... but if it hits, 2-4 weeks in the hospital is guaranteed. If it doesn't hit your eyes... that's the most critical area from small stuff... one hit me in the eyelid and went just below the eyeball. But it hit the eye muscle. Actually a disabled person of the 1st group
        1. 0
          18 November 2023 00: 47
          Usually there is communication with the landing force on the armor, the team cannot leave
          1. +2
            18 November 2023 02: 24
            There is no strict order in the cities... the horse walks behind 50-100 meters and covers the squad or platoon with landmines on command... as soon as the machine gun fires... immediately back... loading with mechanics is still a pleasure... and there was only lead there... it crawled away, we held it and after the machine was reloaded... there was a plus - it took about 30-40 minutes to crawl back and forth... here the boxes were covered with thirty pieces until the horse arrived
    5. +6
      18 November 2023 01: 16
      Of the 50 tanks destroyed during the ground operation in Gaza, only 2 are recoverable. That's all you need to know about the Merkava tank. This is probably what you wanted to say, Alexey? I don’t give any minuses, but I remember the term “collateral losses.”
    6. +1
      18 November 2023 02: 10

      voyaka uh (Alexey)
      Yesterday, 21: 43
      -24
      Of the 50 killed during the ground operation in Gaza
      military personnel - only two tankers.
      That's all you need to know about the Merkava tank.

      Are you one of the particularly stubborn orthodoxies, or where? fool or is it so Russophobic-fluent-sharavar-selyukov that, like merikatos selivan, “you can’t sleep”? Sometimes you read something other than manuals! wassat It looks like the rationed matzah is doing you harm. You cut her swords, because you will come out completely with bile! Who will then highlight the special successes)) of SahalA, Mekraf’s tanks? laughing take off your eyes! -
      Footage of Israeli Merkava tanks damaged in the Gaza Strip being evacuated to the rear is shown.
    7. +1
      18 November 2023 10: 42
      "There are no casualties, we are winning!" Did you pick up this mantra from the Kakels? Israel and the pig-banders have something to exchange, especially in the practice of genocide of the civilian population. So much for the Uh!
    8. +5
      18 November 2023 12: 58
      Why did so many die?
  5. +2
    17 November 2023 21: 48
    The Palestinian Yassin grenade launcher is an analogue of our old RPG -2. If the Palestinians had normal grenade launchers, it is unlikely that the merkas could be restored
    1. -21
      17 November 2023 21: 52
      Palestinians widely use RPG-7.
      And to a limited extent Cornets and Metis.
      KAZ Trophy copes with these types of weapons.
      And the RPG-7 grenade is held by ordinary metal ceramics.
      1. +2
        17 November 2023 21: 57
        In almost all videos on YouTube, Palestinians use the Yassin grenade launcher. And a couple of times I saw something like a cornet or bassoon
      2. +4
        17 November 2023 23: 30
        Is there a video of the trophy working? And it seems that this turned out to be another myth
      3. +1
        18 November 2023 00: 08
        Terminators? Do they know about your know-how? )
  6. +6
    17 November 2023 21: 52
    A good tank won't be called a chariot... stop
  7. -3
    17 November 2023 22: 00
    It’s not evening yet, as V.S. Vysotsky sang... Tanks need a lot of fuel, after a while some of them will become useless...
    1. +1
      18 November 2023 07: 14
      Tanks require a lot of fuel, after a while some of them will become useless...

      Is the planet going to run out of fuel all at once?! Yes, they will give him a lift straight from Russia. The restriction on the sale of fuel abroad has already been lifted.
    2. +1
      18 November 2023 10: 46
      No need! The shrill Turks, despite the hellish cries in defense of Palestine, regularly supply Israel with fuel in large quantities and do not plan to stop supplies! Erdogash in all his glory!
  8. -3
    17 November 2023 22: 05
    I have to say
    So arrogance does not pass without a trace, which can be observed
    based on numerous pieces of evidence in the form of destroyed armored vehicles.
    The cruelty with dead children and civilians surpassed even
    Orwell 1984.
    Positive feedback about use is somewhat reassuring
    weapons of the Russian Federation, which once again confirms that high-quality weapons
    in capable hands - a thing worthy of pride.
  9. +3
    17 November 2023 22: 06
    If the aviation is “working out” very powerfully in the Palestinian enclave, turning the once bustling city into ruins, then the ground units are clearly poorly prepared.

    Why? It is clear that if the IDF entered the sector, they will suffer losses.
    1. Msi
      +2
      17 November 2023 22: 27
      Why?

      Because...
      Military experts also draw attention to errors in the movement of units engaged in “cleansing” in an urban environment, and to huge columns of armored vehicles vulnerable to enemy strikes
  10. -15
    17 November 2023 22: 07
    You can minus.
    The era of tanks is coming to an end. Unless tanks are like armored high-precision launchers from closed positions remote from the front line.
    1. -11
      17 November 2023 22: 15
      Agree! A tank worth a million dollars destroys a drone from Aliexpress for a couple of hundred dollars. Now I would compare this with the late Middle Ages - firearms neutralized the advantages of plate armor
      1. +9
        17 November 2023 22: 44
        Are you suggesting that infantry storm enemy positions without fire support? Let the fools go on the attack, and you sit in the rear at the food warehouse? As the events in Gaza show, there aren't enough food warehouses for all the smart guys. We have to go on the attack and hide our asses behind the armor of tanks.
        1. -5
          18 November 2023 00: 02
          Quote: rotfuks
          Are you suggesting that infantry storm enemy positions without fire support?

          The best support is air!
      2. +4
        18 November 2023 07: 18
        A tank worth a million dollars destroys a drone from Aliexpress for a couple of hundred dollars.

        Such good effectiveness of drones is a temporary phenomenon and is explained by an absolutely complete unpreparedness to fight this type of weapon. Soon it will be completely ineffective.
    2. +1
      17 November 2023 22: 19
      Does not look like it.
      KAZs are being improved.
      The modern new threat to the tank is an attack from above.
      It:
      1. ATGMs or RPGs of the Javelin and NLAW type.
      2. Drones. Or dropping grenades from above from copters, or kamikaze drones.

      Accordingly, KAZ must respond to threats from above.
      Either diving ammunition, or flying over the tank close to the turret (NLAW).
      This is technically possible.
      1. -1
        17 November 2023 23: 04
        Reports about Alabuga periodically appear in the media... In practice, nothing like this has ever happened, but sooner or later a weapon that burns out all electronics will appear and the most effective will be the T34.
      2. +5
        17 November 2023 23: 32
        It should also protect against RPG-7 and much more. I haven’t learned it yet, fortunately the enemies’ grenade launchers are rather weak, you can tell tales about the incredible Israeli KAZ
    3. +6
      17 November 2023 22: 35
      Your statement about the end of the era of tanks is a typical statement of a couch expert. Those who did not serve in the army, do not go on the attack, and spent half their lives sitting on their mother's couch, for them the era of tanks is long gone.
    4. -3
      18 November 2023 00: 20
      I will support you. Do you know why? Cost of alloys. While expensive heavy alloys can be used to form a cumulative jet, a tank cannot be made from these alloys. Plus protection from a high-speed 9 km sec jet.
      1. +2
        18 November 2023 03: 47
        A tank cannot be made from these alloys.
        The funnel goes to simple copper.
        Why do we need a copper tank? laughing
    5. +5
      18 November 2023 13: 01
      Of course we will downvote this nonsense
  11. +4
    17 November 2023 22: 52
    The IDF suffers significant losses in Gaza, including tanks.
    1. +6
      18 November 2023 13: 02
      Why, there are only 50 people in total. The warrior himself said.
  12. +5
    18 November 2023 00: 11
    And the repairmen are raking it out as always. What is typical is that the domestic turret-covered visor, covered in “glory,” is cheaper than the Trophy system. Although the visual beauty is indescribable. Vincent Wilem Van Gogh would be jealous recourse
  13. +1
    18 November 2023 00: 16
    The video most likely shows the tank's defenses being triggered. Because the eye cannot detect the speed of the tandem's triggering.
  14. +3
    18 November 2023 00: 43
    During the Chechen wars, our tanks, hung with a mesh with dynamics, withstood a scribe how many hits, but then the tandem as a species was just emerging. Specifically, according to this video, 100 percent of the cornet was shot down on approach, the residual mass of the crater went like a cannonball. This is the level of a conventional infantry fighting vehicle. This means the tank is cardboard. Why did he catch fire?
  15. +3
    18 November 2023 00: 56
    The solution was found, guys, well done, they suggested, the outside was burning, there was a lot of stuff in there, including gunpowder and TNT. It can burn from exposure. So the smoke is most likely just a fire, the crew is most likely sea bass, the tank is lost.
  16. +2
    18 November 2023 01: 03
    Someone, post this video of a tandem hit (interception) so that there is no controversy.
  17. 0
    18 November 2023 01: 23
    Yeah. I haven’t commented for 5 years, plus or minus. And that’s how it turned out) Beaver to everyone.
  18. +1
    18 November 2023 01: 57
    There is no indestructible military equipment; now we need to calculate how many dead and injured tankers are accounted for by the loss of one unit of the same Merkava and compare this figure with other tanks
    1. +2
      18 November 2023 02: 51
      Other tanks rarely encounter semi-artisanal analogues of RPGs. In general, the Arabs still use black powder; after each explosion, the smoke cannot dissipate for a couple of minutes
      1. +5
        18 November 2023 03: 53
        This is not black powder. It is most likely a mixture of ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder. In the absence of a chemical industry, they use what they have.
  19. +2
    18 November 2023 08: 38
    A real analysis of the use of the Merkava tank has appeared and we see that “the king is naked”! The defeat is not with some super laser, but with an ordinary RPG-7.
    It turns out that they spent more money on the image created in the media than on the booking!
  20. +1
    18 November 2023 15: 55
    "The Day of Merkava" will be repeated... Jews have no epics and national victories