The Russian President said that until 2014 he did not believe in the possibility of an armed conflict with Ukraine

Just recently, few would have thought that Russia and Ukraine could enter into such a large-scale armed conflict. This was stated by the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, speaking at the St. Petersburg Cultural Forum.

As the head of the Russian state noted, until 2014, a large number of smart and talented people simply went about their business and did not suspect that such a development of events was possible. But then the situation changed.

Until 2014, it never occurred to me that there could be such a conflict between Russia and Ukraine

- noted the President of Russia.

Therefore, Putin said, he admits that those people who criticized the special military operation simply did not understand what was happening. The activities of people should be assessed not by what they say, but by what they do, the Russian leader emphasized.

If this activity is connected with causing damage to one’s own country, one’s own people - such activity also takes place, we see it - fees are transferred somewhere, frankly speaking, to the enemy, then this is one story. If it's just an opinion, a point of view, an assessment of the situation - that's a different story

- said the head of state.

Putin called for listening to the main objective factor – the opinion of the people. This should be the determining factor. In addition, the president touched upon in his speech the attempt to “cancel” Russian culture by the West, emphasizing that this is impossible to do. As for ties with Europe, Russia, according to the president, does not intend to sever them, but currently there is a conflict with the European elites.

Comments

[Orange Bigg]

Just recently, few would have thought that Russia and Ukraine could enter into such a large-scale armed conflict.

Let me rephrase. Until recently, few people could NOT to think that Russia and Ukraine can enter into such a large-scale armed conflict. And now no one will think that such a conflict is impossible. Everything was heading this way. The conflict was not resolved in 2015, but launched and as a result we have a logical outcome. Moreover, it is obvious that Ukraine was prepared for war with Russia since the 90s. Even then, in the Bandera camps in Western Ukraine, children were prepared and they said that they would reach the Urals. There was no Orange Revolution, no Euromaidan, no 2014, Crimea, and Donbass. Moreover, all this was shown on central Russian channels. The preparation of children and their statements about reaching the Urals. In my opinion, on ORT. Therefore, The special services could not have known this.What other proof was needed? But everyone was flying in the clouds and engaged in self-deception that supposedly this couldn’t happen, because it couldn’t happen, because someone, you see, doesn’t believe in it. And in general, supposedly no one will fight with us, and if it does, then we have nuclear weapons. As a result, all illusions are dispelled by harsh reality. From heaven to earth.

[Irokez]

Quote from Orange Bigg

The conflict was never resolved in 2015, but it was started and, as a consequence, we have a logical result.

And who should have decided? Who started it? Well, think for yourself: in those days you could have assumed that we would fight. For example, I couldn’t even think about it and thought that everything would be decided differently.

[Orange Bigg]

Yes, in principle, it was a miracle that the conflict did not flare up in Crimea back in 2014. But apparently the United States insisted on this and Ukraine did not flinch, but the Donbass flared up in 2014 and Ukraine, having the opportunity even then to resolve the conflict in its favor, did not do this, probably on orders USA, since Donbass was used as a training ground for preparation for a big war with Russia and as the cause of a big conflict. The Americans most likely helped us take control of Crimea as a bait, as a trap, so that at any moment we could start a conflict with Russia in an attempt take it under Western control. They could very well tell us that they don’t mind if Crimea goes to Russia, but at the same time they were playing their own game.

[AUL]

Quote from Orange Bigg

The amers most likely helped us take control of Crimea as a bait, as a trap, so that at any moment we could start a conflict with Russia in an attempt to take it under Western control.

Brad!

[gryaznov.igor.]

I agree, I'm from Sevastopol, we've already started building schools for the Americans and everything else. If only our fleet had Ukrainians they removed the NATO one immediately and then the contract Ukrainians We would have signed with NATO for 100 years, something like that

[dmi.pris1]

I already wrote about “A Clockwork Orange.” The conflict was being prepared from the outside, they even wrote about it openly on the Internet, seventeen years ago. But I didn’t believe the GDP... Or Illarion’s advisers were blowing in their ears.

[VladMirU]

And the King is a mediocrity. What did intelligence do? Where is the Foreign Ministry’s analysis of neighboring countries? Does the Security Council use intelligence data and analysis from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Toothless, stupid management of the country. And then the invoice arrived. We are unlikely to learn about budget expenditures. First we will find out what people pay, the elite part of our multinational people. It will probably be much more than 50 thousand. And how will stupid, short-sighted management pay?

[Irokez]

I think a little differently.
In 14, when the coup unexpectedly occurred, no one was prepared for the consequences that unfolded later. And even the Anglo-Saxons did not foresee much, especially Crimea and the LDPR. Therefore, events did not develop according to plan, but spontaneously, and neither side could show the strength and character to make a strong-willed decision.
Ukraine did not have the military forces to even conquer the LDPR, let alone Crimea. We also could not, taking into account geopolitics and heavy dependence on the West, take decisive action to protect the LDPR and only helped indirectly and covertly.
After all, they still believed that we were brothers and it was impossible to fight and were waiting for something that would even out and balance everything. But the Anglo-Saxons wove a rope and a noose for the future war into which we found ourselves.
Everything would have been resolved if the leadership of the Outskirts had normal pro-Slavic leaders who had not sold out to the Anglo-Saxons. And there, since independence, everyone has already been controlled and bought, and even Yanukovych is spineless and thieving. But the very first was Khrushchev, who did a lot of things in the USSR for the glory of the Outskirts.

[Orange Bigg]

By the way, Khrushchev was the first to dress up in embroidered shirt. Kursk guy.

When the Chekists dug under Khrushchev, it turned out that in his native village of Kalinovka it had long been an open secret that Nikita Sergeyevich's father was a wealthy Polish landowner, Alexander Gasvitsky, for whom Khrushchev's mother worked as a housekeeper. It was he who sent him with a recommendation to Yuzovka, to his friend, the industrialist Kirsh. ... It is difficult to say now how true this is, but Molotov also indirectly mentioned the "development" of Khrushchev. In a well-known note, he writes that the Chekists were never able to find a mine in Yuzovka with the name that Nikita Sergeyevich indicated (where he allegedly worked in his youth). Historian Melnichuk, who worked a lot in the Soviet archives in his time, says that it was Stalin who held back the "development" of Khrushchev, and until the end of his life he was under him "the village boy Mikitka."

https://dzen.ru/a/XS8ayuMGLACu-vHd

[fruc]

Orange-Bigg...... Kursk guy.

He is as Kurdish as Pasha Klimkin, wretchedness.

[gryaznov.igor.]

So he Ukrainian by nationality

[Myths]

When it all started and there was a landing near Kiev. The top of the Square dumped something into Poland, or maybe further away. Although all NATO intelligence knew how many and where the forces were, and that the mother of Russian cities could not be taken with such forces. But it was a surprise even for them.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote from Mitos

When it all started and there was a landing near Kiev. The top of the Square dumped something into Poland, or maybe further away. Although all NATO intelligence knew how many and where the forces were, and that the mother of Russian cities could not be taken with such forces. But it was a surprise even for them.

Now such are the top. You can remember Prigozhin’s riot on June 24, 2023. And how many planes and helicopters flew in one direction or another in one day.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

The United States had already begun to invest in modernizing the Sevastopol base to suit its own interests.
At the same time, bringing Sevastopol under the full control of Russia would be complete bullshit.

[Myths]

So a line of ships from other countries went there. True, the base was not very suitable for them; the fairway there was specific; their ships themselves would not be moored. But the wedges were knocked down. But Balaklava was crawled up and down, but the base was immediately ruined, so they won’t even get in...

[fruc]

It’s too bad that I didn’t think about this in 2014. And the xoxles thought about this already in 1993, when they formed their army. One of the issues when selecting candidates was the readiness to fight with the Russian Federation. And they already started fighting with the UNA UNSO militants in 1992 in Abkhazia, continued in the Northern Caucasus and even more closely with seconded military personnel from Ukraine in South Ossetia in 2008. So everything was leading up to this.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

And who remembers how in 2014, high-quality videos were distributed through patriotic groups about how Ukraine should not be attacked, that the Americans only want Putin to give the order to introduce troops, and that the people should unite around the president and support the wise decision NOT to introduce troops... And it is indeed wise not to introduce troops into a country where there is no legitimate government and public administration is violated, but to recognize the post-Maidan government, let it clean up the Russian forces, let it gather and organize, and give NATO time to fill Ukraine to the brim with weapons.

[RoadRunner]

In 2008, for some reason, they quickly decided and sorted it out. But in 2015, it turns out, no one could have even thought of it, out of the blue.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: RoadRunner

But in 2015, it turns out, no one could have even thought of it, out of the blue.

Most likely, they took into account that the elites involved in business with Russia would not want to lose income, but they did not take into account the great interest of mattresses in preparing and organizing the battle and the fact that they already had this entire Ukrainian elite by the gills.

[Msi]

that they already had this entire Ukrainian elite by the gills.

There was a meeting between Zelensky and Ukrainian oligarchs. Before our start of the SVO.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Msi

that they already had this entire Ukrainian elite by the gills.

There was a meeting between Zelensky and Ukrainian oligarchs. Before our start of the SVO.

In 2015? Meeting with Zelensky?
You are inattentive

[guest]

Quote: Irokez

In those days you could have assumed that we would fight.

I personally knew this from the beginning of the 90s, then it was already clear that a war between Russia and Ukraine was inevitable. In the same way, Germany’s attack on the USSR was a foregone conclusion in 1933.

[nickname7]

For example, I couldn’t even think like that

So you were probably frozen and missed the events. Find a video of the burning in the house of trade unions 14, read the speeches and articles of Yarosh and Turchinov, who headed the Criminal Code in 14. Also, by August 29, as the resource “military chronicle” claims, the scale of the war surpassed the first
and the second Chechen war, there were cauldrons in which almost all the army units that the Armed Forces of Ukraine had managed to assemble at that time fell into, how can one not understand that they want revenge? It's simply mind boggling. Moreover, the junta officially stated in articles, interviews and in issuing laws that it would start a war to take Crimea back.
You may be frozen or in a non-teachable state, but the president of a country of 140 million cannot help but understand what is happening.

[Mikhail Krivopalov]

In general, even after the war on 08.08.08 with Georgia, some politicians almost immediately began to say that the next war would be with Ukraine, and even called 2015. This is the kind of president we have, he believes in Western partners, but not in his own domestic politicians.

[Chem1st]

But everyone was flying in the clouds and engaged in self-deception

Yeah, self-deception.... The loot was chopped and the toad was strangled. As always, the main thing is to cut it down here and now, and then it will somehow sort itself out.... The trouble is that NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

[MrFlyer]

I never understood why go with a machine gun to the Urals, become part of the Russian Federation and walk at least to Vladivostok calmly and comfortably. And the Ukrainian elites have always had a place in the Russian/Soviet government. What's the point of all this then... some kind of idiocy.

[nickname7]

And the Ukrainian elites have always had a place in Russian/Soviet power

This is not enough for them, they are so breathless from the opportunities that have opened up, because the outside world offers more opportunities to convert billions into enjoying life. A villa in the tropics on the ocean shore is not the village of Gryazi, where Pugacheva has a house.

[potterz]

The sofa is always right............

[notingem]

At least the sofa is not constantly deceived. And here there is just holy naivety

[Sotskiy]

Quote from Orange Bigg

But everyone was flying in the clouds and engaged in self-deception that supposedly this couldn’t be, because it couldn’t be, because someone, you see, doesn’t believe in it.

Yes, there was no “self-deception”, because by engaging in total de-Sovietization and “returning to the roots and bonds”, caveman, small-town nationalism suited everyone who seized power in the former Union. This was beneficial to everyone who shared and raked in the legacy of the USSR.
Just remember the snipers in Vilnius, Transnistria, the Georgian-Abkhazian war, the massacre in Baku, Chechnya, and finally the same war with Georgia.
Until 2014 it couldn't have occurred to him... That he... was lying! Or did he really live on another planet?!

[VladMirU]

Warehouse "manager" level......

[Stinging Nettle]

because it can’t be, because someone doesn’t believe in it, you see.

One person can always be wrong! All people have their own emotions and inadequate decisions, when a person believes or does not believe in something for some reason that goes back to personal characteristics!
This is why democracy is needed - so that the country does not fall into the abyss due to the inevitable mistakes of one person.
If everything depends on one person, then something like this will definitely happen. Not one mistake, but another, will lead to disaster, because there is no one to slow down and set limits.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Stinging_Nettle

This is why democracy is needed - so that the country does not fall into the abyss due to the inevitable mistakes of one person.

The power of the councils is needed. From the word - "Advice". Dictatorship of the proletariat. In common parlance - the majority (!) of working people, and not a plutocracy as it is now all over the world, including the Russian Federation.

Plutocracy (ancient Greek πλοῦτος - wealth, κράτος - rule) is a political regime in which the decisions of government bodies are determined by the will of groups of rich people.

And this “hired manager” at the head of the state is a clear confirmation of this.

[nickname7]

One person can always be wrong!

Actually, this is not just a person, not a blogger, but a whole president
Russian Federation, commander-in-chief, head of the executive branch of the Russian Federation with the right to issue laws.
A report and analysis from the FSB, GRU, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are placed on his desk.
V.V. Putin is a very influential and knowledgeable person; the word “didn’t know” does not apply to such powerful people.

[VladMirU]

Conclusion: the person is not suitable for the position he holds.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

It is a pity that the GDP did not know well what kind of people the current Ukrainians are. Although this is largely the fault of the special services.

[Vladimir M]

For the sake of fairness, were “today’s Ukrainians” really given a choice? At least the south and east of Ukraine in 14-15 years chose the “Russian Spring”. In 22, especially after the “good wills”, the choice changed....

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

You had to think with your brains, not “choose”. So the Ukrainians “finished their choice” - where it’s more satisfying, and the horseradish is thicker, sorry for the rudeness. And so all their lives they “choose” who to settle down with, and who to screw with.

[Irokez]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

And so all their lives they “choose” who to settle down with.

There is always at least some choice, but at this time only to the front (voluntary and forced) and in the 200s.

[Vladimir M]

Andrey Nikolaevich, what were you thinking when choosing Borka the drunk so many times? Or is it something else? When you were a drunk, at least they didn’t kill you for having a “wrong opinion.” This is me, for the sake of fairness.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Vladimir M, with all the shortcomings of the EBN, during his reign, people were not trained to kill another people, they did not jump and shout “Khokhlyak to Gilyak”, they did not instill in people hatred of other peoples, they did not betray the memory of their fathers and grandfathers - front-line soldiers, they betrayed Orthodoxy and did not demolish monuments. The Ukrainian people honestly earned their tears, blood and grief. I'm very sorry. But I DO NOT feel sorry for them. Bill (historical) - payable!

[Msi]

The Ukrainian people honestly earned their tears, blood and grief. I'm very sorry. But I DO NOT feel sorry for them. Bill (historical) - payable!

Well said. I support.

[nickname7]

with all the shortcomings of the EBN, during its time

EBN started a war out of the blue.

[guest]

Quote: Vladimir M

What were you thinking when choosing Borka the drunk so many times?

But who chose this drunk? The oligarchs chose, but the people were never asked.

[hhurik]

Come on

It does not contain useful information.

[Stinging Nettle]

But who chose this drunk? The oligarchs chose, but the people were never asked.

And Putin was chosen because Yeltsin appeared on TV and said to choose him.

[Msi]

When you were a drunk, at least they didn’t kill you for having a “wrong opinion.”

You don’t know the modern history of Russia well...Do you know the general Rokhlin?

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Vladimir M

When you were a drunk, at least they didn’t kill you for having a “wrong opinion.”

The “White House” with executions at the stadium and at the entrances of Moscow in 1993, is this “different” in your opinion?

[KLM77]

Not only throughout their lives, throughout their short history, pots have been chosen and are choosing whom to settle down with.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

So the Ukrainians “finished their choice” - where it’s more satisfying, and the horseradish is thicker, sorry for the rudeness. And so all their lives they “choose” who to settle down with, and who to screw with.

So, our horseradish is more filling and longer?

[Msi]

So, our horseradish is more filling and longer?

Isn't that right????

[Escariot]

Quote: Vladimir M

For the sake of fairness, were “today’s Ukrainians” really given a choice? At least the south and east of Ukraine in 14-15 years chose the “Russian Spring”. In 22, especially after the “good wills”, the choice changed....

The choice then changed to “good will”. No one came out to meet with flowers in Kharkov and Nikolaev. That’s why I had to organize all these gestures

[Vladimir M]

That's the point, that for 8 years since 14, those who met the "Russian Spring" in 14-15 were slaughtered in Kharkov and Nikolaev. Or as it was in 22 in Kherson - the Russian Guard came in and stood on the main square in the city center and did not go into the "gateways". A crowd with posters and chants against Russia immediately formed. True, they were later identified - they were disguised Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers, SBU soldiers, former ATO soldiers and their family members. And the locals were warned - if anyone comes out for Russia, they will be slaughtered in their apartments. This was not allowed in Crimea, but in Kherson the Russian Guard did not do its job and apparently did not intend to do it. And who in their right mind would come out for Russia in such conditions? Or like in the same Bucha, after the "good will" they killed everyone who met the Russian troops and scattered the corpses along the road and of course they blamed Russia for this, then leading and showing it to delegations from Europe.

[Escariot]

Quote: Vladimir M

That's the point, that for 8 years since 14, those who met the "Russian Spring" in 14-15 were slaughtered in Kharkov and Nikolaev. Or as it was in 22 in Kherson - the Russian Guard came in and stood on the main square in the city center and did not go into the "gateways". A crowd with posters and chants against Russia immediately formed. True, they were later identified - they were disguised Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers, SBU soldiers, former ATO soldiers and their family members. And the locals were warned - if anyone comes out for Russia, they will be slaughtered in their apartments. This was not allowed in Crimea, but in Kherson the Russian Guard did not do its job and apparently did not intend to do it. And who in their right mind would come out for Russia in such conditions? Or like in the same Bucha, after the "good will" they killed everyone who met the Russian troops and scattered the corpses along the road and of course they blamed Russia for this, then leading and showing it to delegations from Europe.

All these stories of yours are amazing, BUT (!) the majority of the population of Kherson did not leave the city, but remained in it, as if to be punished by the Nazis. And now all these Russians (and they really are Russians by blood) are fighting against Russia somewhere near Avdeevka. And this cannot be attributed to intimidation or shortcomings of the Russian Guard.

[Msi]

the majority of the population of Kherson did not leave the city, but remained in it to be punished by the Nazis

Like reprisals... Several hundred (at least) people went missing in Kherson after the arrival of the ASU.
There are videos of arrests of residents who collaborated with the Russian army.

[Escariot]

Quote from Msi

the majority of the population of Kherson did not leave the city, but remained in it to be punished by the Nazis

Like reprisals... Several hundred (at least) people went missing in Kherson after the arrival of the ASU.
There are videos of arrests of residents who collaborated with the Russian army.

To be honest, I would be surprised if this were not the case. However, the majority of the population remained in the city.

[Vladimir M]

“The majority of the population of Kherson” simply did not dare to leave the city and move to the Russian-controlled territories, firstly, close relatives remained in the controlled territories of Ukraine and already knew what happened in the same Bucha, and secondly (I wrote about this) the population of Ukraine after all the “many moves” and “good wills” were considered by “Bandera” to be the lesser evil.

[Escariot]

Quote: Vladimir M

“The majority of the population of Kherson” simply did not dare to leave the city and move to the Russian-controlled territories, firstly, close relatives remained in the controlled territories of Ukraine and already knew what happened in the same Bucha, and secondly (I wrote about this) the population of Ukraine after all the “many moves” and “good wills” were considered by “Bandera” to be the lesser evil.

Well, yes, hostages. Now it’s true that in addition to relatives, now they have all become hostages, but will a Russian person think about such trifles!?
Or maybe, after living in Russia for half a year, the population of Kherson considered “Bandera” a lesser evil.

[nickname7]

Most of the population of Kherson did not leave the city,

It has always been like this, the population of a city with a population of over a million cannot just up and leave the city, there were pro-Russian people there, they didn't bother with them, the SBU simply cut them out, the rest have nowhere to go and they are fighting against the Russian Federation, alas. To prevent this from happening, it was necessary not to leave the Kharkiv people to the Banderites and to expel the junta in 14. But now they tell us that the guarantor did not understand, did not know and, in addition, he was deceived.
In fact, the guarantor was buying time for the oligarchs to evacuate capital, but he didn’t care about the Russians.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Vladimir M

For the sake of fairness, were “today’s Ukrainians” really given a choice? At least the south and east of Ukraine in 14-15 years chose the “Russian Spring”. In 22, especially after the “good wills”, the choice changed....

At that time, the “Russian Spring” had the ghostly veil of the “Soviet Spring”.
The people secretly hoped, it scared the towers.
That’s why the “northern wind” died down.

Time has passed and now it has become obvious to everyone that there is no sign of a socialist component.
And Russian capitalism and Ukrainian capitalism are twins. Siamese, spliced.
The only motivation left among the people is national and linguistic.
And it is necessary to take into account the national and linguistic composition of the population of the regions in the first place.

[Monster_Fat]

Until 2014, I did not believe in the possibility of an armed conflict with Ukraine

Said by the one who had the ENTIRE STATE MACHINE at his disposal.... Well, that... Probably, they were “deceived” again..... Although, no, this is most likely another, brilliant HPP. Yes.

[Fan-fan]

Well, it was necessary to start SVO in any case. After all, a little more and NATO would have been here, essentially in our backyard. I think we made a mistake in those days when the Balts wanted to join NATO, we had to give them an ultimatum, like this: either you abandon NATO or we send in troops.
By the way, it is not too late to declare that all countries bordering us will receive SVO if they want to join NATO. And negotiations with Ukraine must be conducted when the entire left bank and the Odessa and Nikolaev regions are ours, and peace will only be achieved when the right bank remnants of Ukraine renounce NATO and declare neutrality.

[Escariot]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Well, it was necessary to start SVO in any case. After all, a little more and NATO would have been here, essentially in our backyard. I think we made a mistake in those days when the Balts wanted to join NATO, we had to give them an ultimatum, like this: either you abandon NATO or we send in troops.
By the way, it is not too late to declare that all countries bordering us will receive SVO if they want to join NATO. And negotiations with Ukraine must be conducted when the entire left bank and the Odessa and Nikolaev regions are ours, and peace will only be achieved when the right bank remnants of Ukraine renounce NATO and declare neutrality.

So NATO is already in our backyard in Finland.

[Fan-fan]

It’s unfortunate, of course, but when Putin started the North Military District, the Finns were neutrals. In any case, from Finland to Moscow 810 km, and from Ukraine to Moscow 460. NATO in Ukraine is much more dangerous for us than NATO in Finland.
We need neutral states like air along the perimeter of our borders, as a kind of buffer.

[rocket757]

I believed, I didn’t believe... now we need to do what we should, we only need VICTORY, there is no other way out!

[nickname7]

Believed, didn't believe

Some gave up on such power and relocated to Argentina.

[Irokez]

The activities of people should be assessed not by what they say, but by what they do, the Russian leader emphasized.

Everything is right as in the Bible, “Judge them according to their deeds.”

[Rage66]

It's too late to think about it, unfortunately...
Now, normal people cannot wish defeat for their country...
It is a fact

[BMP-2]

But why? It’s better to start thinking later than never. Although, of course, sooner is better than later.

[Escariot]

Quote: Rage66

It's too late to think about it, unfortunately...
Now, normal people cannot wish defeat for their country...
It is a fact

You shouldn't be so categorical. There was Willy Brand, who not only made defeats for his homeland in the war, but also fought against it with arms in hand.

[Stinging Nettle]

Now, normal people cannot wish defeat for their country...
It is a fact

Right. Can normal people desire Kadyrov’s supremacy, Jewish pogroms, and deprivation of women’s rights?

[Soul of Russia87]

He didn't believe it. The head of state must have the ability to calculate different scenarios for the development of events and have a plan for each of them, even the worst and most incredible! If you haven’t figured it out yourself, then you should have smart advisers around you, not agreeable ones! In general, I DO NOT BELIEVE in his artistic naivety! How do they say everything is going according to plan?

[VladMirU]

He lies skillfully... The entire history of his rule confirms it. And now - he "bought" students, almost "bought" most pensioners, the army is "under surveillance", civil servants are under the sword of dismissal at the command of the boss and that's it. The next term is in the bag. And another 6 years of the oligarchic-capitalist path are ahead. "Every nation deserves its ruler"

[Fisher]

The head of an enterprise, and especially a state, should not play daisy. He must carry out his policies and evaluate the results and make adjustments based on the evaluation results. Then the need to believe/don’t believe will disappear

[nickname7]

Then the need to believe/don’t believe will disappear

In the States, such a confession would lead to impeachment, but that's not how it works here. The Russian government can harm the country and say that it doesn't believe in it, and at the same time win the elections for this and the next term.

[Maks1995]

IMHO, it was clear to some that something would happen.
The communists clearly write in their textbooks: imperialism is war (in short). And there are plenty of examples in the world of clashes after the collapse of empires....
Remember: 2 Chechens, South Ossetia, 2 Karabakh, Abkhazia, and clashes among Central Asians....
Even Chechnya, although recently, managed to "annex" oil-bearing land from its neighbor... because it essentially has its own armed forces, while its neighbor does not...
And like, it couldn't even occur to you?
When someone confidently, right before our eyes, annexes 1 part of Ukraine, and splits off, but does not annex, 2 more (shooters, naturally, with professional volunteers and PMCs) - classic "no man's lands" are confidently formed.
Oh, probably not. The famous HPP was already extolled on the Internet...

Well, and a sharp shift in the information agenda from “friendship of peoples” to “who owes whom how much for pumping through the pipe”

[Aken]

In 13-14, many of us screamed: calm down, you don’t understand what you’re doing!
They laughed at us - we are creating a great outskirts empire that will rule the world. For we are the smartest, the most noble and the most beautiful.
We told them, there were already people who spoke like that.
But they objected - they were fools, but we are the smartest. We will succeed. And even the Polish lords, the owners of the estates, as well as the Jews who manage the estates, recognize us, the serfs, as equals. No. They recognize us not just as equals. Equal to the French, And then to the English themselves. The whole world recognizes that we are the Sumerians, from whom Buddha and Jehovah came.
We were quietly shocked. We didn't believe that this was possible.
The people of the Outskirts have proven that they can make the impossible possible.
Even the least bit reluctant to die for the sake of nonsense. These will.
Perseverance is worthy of respect. Is it worth preventing the Okrans from dying for nothing?
Will the planet eventually become a little cleaner?

[north 2]

It's bad when the names of these smart people are not mentioned. And what smart people are we talking about, smart people in Ukraine before 2014 or smart and talented people in Russia before 2014. So in Ukraine, the smart and talented person was the follower of the destruction of the USSR Kravchuk, then his talented heirs Kuchma, Yushchenko, Tymoshenko and the talented occupant of two chairs Yanukovych. And since the talented people in Russia before 2014 are not specifically called the sovereign either, then we can include Serdyukov, Chubais, etc. among them, because they were not fools to create a headache for themselves, saying that Banderaism has blossomed in Ukraine and it smells of war, and as for Zyuganov's party members singing about the friendship of peoples before and after 2014, there is nothing to say about it. By the way, even after 2014, Russia's friends, due to their intelligence and talent for fidgeting on two chairs, did not recognize Crimea as part of Russia, although Russia, headed by Putin, saved "father" during the attempted coup d'etat. And how smart and talented are they then, if they did not understand what was threatening Russia. For example, what is the talent of Serdyukov, Chubais, Medvedev?

[Girl with a broom]

Yes, already since 1991, with the revival of Bandera in Ukraine, it became clear that war between Russia and Ukraine could not be avoided.

Only a very, very stupid person could fail to notice the active penetration of Nazism into all spheres of Ukrainian society over the past 30 years, long before the Maidan and before 2014.

[Aken]

People are divided into two unequal groups. Those who were horrified by it and those who welcomed it.
Determine the nationality of the first and second.

[Roust]

Everything was leading up to this. And we are simply NA-DU-LI.

[Girl with a broom]

Listening to the revelations of the President of the Russian Federation about how everyone around him is cheating and deceiving him - Merkel, Hollande, NATO, the EU, the USA, you begin to really fear for the country headed by such a simpleton...

[nickname7]

And we are simply NA-DU-LI

No one asks us, we are presented with a fact. The bourgeoisie sold us and the country for their yacht estates.

[Normal]

And this is bad, very bad. They screwed up the ukra themselves. There, brainwashing did not happen overnight. And if we add smoke from conspiracy theories, we can even assume that they actually wanted to make her a battering ram in the future. Which is exactly what we are seeing now.
In general, from personal experience, I even know such people, it happened twice. Some people, or societies, are sometimes so afraid of the future, they are so afraid to admit something to themselves that they are ready to believe in deception, or they invent it for themselves. It’s easier this way, by deceiving yourself you can paint yourself an ideal future where it’s always nice and cozy.
Now let me return to two cases from personal experience. Once we had a heart-to-heart conversation with a work colleague, well, he opened up and told a sad story in which he realized that his wife had a lover and he even knew who he was. At first I hesitated and didn’t know how to react so as not to hurt his feelings, but then I asked him a question: do you want to break up with her? His answer shocked me: “no,” he said. But why, doesn't it offend your feelings? “Yes,” he answered, but I’m even more scared of what will happen to me next. I’m used to it and know in advance what will happen tomorrow, but the unknown scares me and how to live with it further.
That is, in essence, the person was ready to deceive himself by pretending not to notice anything.
This is sad even in the quality of one case. But when they lie to themselves at the risk of their own people, it is exponentially sad.

[nickname7]

They screwed up the ukra themselves

We don't have the authority to make decisions. For the oligarchs, petrodollars are “mine,” and loss means “we.”

[Bamse]

Somewhere in 8 or 9, a psychic told me that there would be a war in Ukraine. Of course, I didn’t want to believe it, but she was never wrong.

[AlexWar]

The Great Patriotic War. General Pavlov. Last conversation with Zhukov
I also didn’t believe that Hitler was attacking

"Purgatory" 1997 conversation between a militant (Nagiyev) and a tanker

[Ezekiel 25-17]

"...He believed when he put his fingers into his wounds..."

[Zenn]

After Maidan 2004, after Georgia 2008, after a series of color revolutions with bloody coups, our President declares -

Until 2014, it never occurred to me that there could be such a conflict between Russia and Ukraine

, and what came to mind - Humanity (Khodarkovskiy), International Law (Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq), fraternal nations (Ukraine), Faith in Western partners (Merkel and 8 years of deception with the Minsk agreements). And who said "drown terrorists in the toilet", or is it a different person? In general, I used to think that former intelligence officers are a little paranoid, and always prepare for the worst-case scenario. It seems I was wrong, everything suggests that our politicians live in some kind of world of pink ponies. I'll have to upset Vladimir Vladimirovich, tell him that there is no Santa Claus.

[KLM77]

Didn’t believe it before 2014? In 1996, it was obvious to me that the pots were heading towards war with Russia! And for this you didn’t need a bunch of special services; it was enough to listen to the students from the ruins.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: KLM77

did you believe? In 1996, it was obvious to me that the pots were heading towards war with Russia! AND

Wow! That same year, a classmate from Crimea came galloping in: "Vovan, houses there are sold for 7-8 million. Rubles.

[kakvastam]

Until 2014, it never occurred to me that there could be such a conflict between Russia and Ukraine

It was he who simply did not go to occupied Crimea.
I visited there once in the nineties, after that all the questions about impossibilities gone.
It seemed to me then that our children would have to sort out this crap, in fact, taking into account their age, and so it turned out...

[GRIGORIY76]

Whether he believed it or not. But 2014 is the result of his failed foreign policy, the billions invested in vain, and his cowardly behavior in 2014, when the east of Ukraine could have been taken without a fight. There wouldn't be hundreds of thousands killed on both sides now. The general trend is the loss of the entire post-Soviet space, only Belarus remains.

[nickname7]

Whether he believed it or not. But 2014 is the result of his failed foreign policy, wasted billions, and his prickly behavior in 2014

It's just that now, on the eve of the elections, the guarantor sends positive messages, the previous confession about "I was deceived" was recognized by the PR service as an unsuccessful confession, therefore he developed a new image saying - "I'm not me and the horse is not mine"
Although, in principle, it doesn’t matter what the reason was for deception or lack of faith in Bandera, for this you have to voluntarily retire.

[Mordvin 3]

There is currently a conflict with European elites.

Do we need this?

[Factor]

Again the weak babble of justification for the deceived President Putin.

What comes to his mind now? And who are his experts and advisers now?

The people are waiting for the real end to the Judeo-junta in Kyiv.
He is waiting for a real answer, first of all, from President Putin.
Waiting for decisive action without regard to “partners”.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In any case, one person is responsible for everything that happens in the country - the head of state. I really hope that GDP doesn't always tell the whole story. Sometimes you can't tell people the truth. But what matters is the end result. Whether the politician lied or not is not important. What matters is the result.

[Factor]

Putin said a lot of things this time.

Is he looking for new partners or sending signs to old ones?

LGBT representatives are also part of society and have the right to win competitions in the field of culture, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a plenary session of the St. Petersburg International Cultural Forum.

According to him, at various cultural competitions in Western countries, in order to win, you need to either tell or show something from the life of sexual minorities, “transgenders and... some other transformers - many different names.”

“But here's what I would like to say. I'll tell you something unexpected. And they too - these topics and these people - have the right to win, show, tell, because this is also part of society. This is also what people live by. It’s bad if they only win all sorts of competitions, that’s of no use,” Putin said.

The President added that “equality should be everywhere, in everything, including in competitions in the field of culture.”

Earlier on November 17, the Ministry of Justice filed an administrative claim to recognize the “international LGBT social movement” as extremist and to ban its activities in Russia. The lawsuit will be heard on November 30 in the Supreme Court.

So what can Russians expect from Putin now?

[vovochkarzhevsky]

That is, the president declares that the special services and analytical departments created under his leadership are absolutely unsuitable for professionalism?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: vovochkarzhevsky

That is, the president declares that the special services and analytical departments created under his leadership are absolutely unsuitable for professionalism?

That's not even bad. The bad thing is that EVEN NOW he doesn’t understand how much... I don’t even know how to say it. Stupid? Unforgivable? Absurd? his words sound

[nickname7]

analytical departments are absolutely unsuitable for professionalism

By the way, we should demand documents from the archive to make sure that they are there, but we are mute and cannot ask Putin a question, all questions and answers go only from top to bottom.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

As the head of the Russian state noted, until 2014, a large number of smart and talented people simply went about their business

Alas, not a single one of them was in the Russian government.

[tezey]

Sometime in 2007 I bought a small book by A.B. Shirokorada under the then intriguing title - “Russia and Ukraine. When the guns start talking...” At that time, even the title of the book sounded like something fantastic. However, after reading it, I no longer considered its content as fantasy, which is fashionable today. The author examined his disappointing analysis of relations between post-Soviet Ukraine and Russia quite objectively, based on facts, both historical and facts of relations between countries after 1991. At the end of the book, the author describes a possible, in his opinion, military clash between Russia and Ukraine in Crimea. In general, he turned out to be right. The only difference was that in Crimea the guns didn’t start talking, they started talking later, but they did talk. The question is that Shirokorad is still a writer who, based on his analysis, came to the correct conclusion back in 2007, but what did our intelligence analysts and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who have much more information from all spheres of life and government in Ukraine, do? Did they draw conclusions about the possibility of an imminent military conflict with Ukraine? Did they report their findings to the president, or were they not listened to? Today we will not know this, but if the country’s leadership had understood in time what was going on in Ukraine and how it would affect Russia, then today, perhaps, of course, the guns would either have died down or would have thundered differently. However, we have what we have. In any case, our cause is just, victory will be ours.

[Horatii]

“The President of Russia said that until 2014 he did not believe in the possibility of an armed conflict with Ukraine!

To be honest, it was strange for me to hear this from the president of the country. And who, one might ask, was supposed to believe!? First names, last names?.. Perhaps engineers, milling operators, reindeer herders should have?
I noticed long ago, when speaking to the public, he treats people as complete fools. We all know that in our country, as in all countries of the world, intelligence works 24/7 and it could not hide from the head of state what was going on in the neighboring country, who was preparing it and for what. The beginning of the SVO showed that everyone and everything slept well. And the military registration and enlistment offices continued to sleep for several more months...
It is, of course, clear that the country was not ready, but it was necessary to start immediately. But to say that you didn’t believe it when the West has been openly saying for the last thirty years where and what it saw Russia as - well, I don’t know..
I recently read a statement from an old woman who survived Auschwitz: “Remember forever, if someone, somewhere promises to kill you, believe them. Don’t argue (that) their policy is this, and they themselves are good and nice people, that "They're just saying that. When they move from words to deeds, it will be too late. Believe those who promise to kill you."

[nickname7]

At 14 there was information that a banker from Switzerland came to the Kremlin and showed accounts with amounts and names of oligarchs, from that moment the "Russian Spring" was drained.
Yata, then Abramovich has one, and the women are still giving birth.

What did you expect if the elite of the Russian Federation lives and keeps its fortunes in NATO countries. This elite can be blackmailed, which is what happened. It's just embarrassing to say this, hence these strange statements, then "deceived" then "didn't believe".

[jovanni]

Until 2014, it never occurred to me that there could be such a conflict between Russia and Ukraine

This resulted in rivers of blood for us...

[Stinging Nettle]

This resulted in rivers of blood for us...

To "us"? The children and grandchildren of officials and oligarchs are alive and well. This means that from their point of view, everything is in order, everything is going according to plan.

[jovanni]

We are not the children and grandchildren of officials. We are not them. Officials live on another planet, and we are here...

[Rumata]

There was a radio interview with some first minister of defense of independent Ukraine.
The correspondent asked what you would do in the event of a war with Russia. I was shocked by the journalist's impudence and the stupidity of the question. I don't remember what the minister answered, but I remember exactly what I would have answered in his place, without thinking: "Shoot yourself!"
I have the honor!

[ZovSailor]

I have to say
So, there are many people of the older 60+ generation who still don’t believe
into what is happening and consider the SVO to be an erroneous one, in their opinion everything would have settled down
an agreement with the leaders of the Banderreich and their master, the Yankees?
It seems to me that the biggest mistakes were made by our leaders, Stalin, Khrushchev,
e bn, who went for greater independence and independence from Russia, which
and served as a catalyst for the formation of Bandera-Nazi ideology,
the sprouts of which ripened back in the Middle Ages.
Even in history before the 1654th century and after XNUMX, the outskirts showed themselves
to put it mildly, an unreliable ally.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Ze vzdáleného pohledu od nás má Putin správné názory. Vím, že iu vás jsou problem s Oligarchy av něčem s Putinem nesouhlasíte, ve skutečnosti si myslím, že je to nejlepší vládce na světě ze všech států.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

From a distant point of view, Putin has the right views. I know that you also have problems with the Oligarchs and you disagree with Putin in some ways, in fact, I consider him the best ruler in the world of all states.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Beru na vědomí vaše hodnocení, vím že vy máte pravdu.

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

I take note of your assessment, I know that you are right.

[rafat]

People say simplicity is worse than theft, and this is the result.

[faterdom]

Our chief of AK aviation himself is from Ukraine; when he retired at the end of 92, he said in a toast, “I hope that Ukraine will never fight with Russia.”
That is, then something already forced him to “hope” only, and not to be so sure of it that the very thought of such a toast would be incredible.
And our ostriches didn't understand everything in 15 either, they didn't want to see the obvious. A childish way to solve a problem: close your eyes - there's no nastiness!

[ZovSailor]

Quote: Theseus

Sometime in 2007 I bought a small book by A.B. Shirokorada under the then intriguing title - “Russia and Ukraine. When the guns start talking...” At that time, even the title of the book sounded like something fantastic. However, after reading it, I no longer considered its content as fantasy, which is fashionable today. The author examined his disappointing analysis of relations between post-Soviet Ukraine and Russia quite objectively, based on facts, both historical and facts of relations between countries after 1991. At the end of the book, the author describes a possible, in his opinion, military clash between Russia and Ukraine in Crimea. In general, he turned out to be right. The only difference was that in Crimea the guns didn’t start talking, they started talking later, but they did talk. The question is that Shirokorad is still a writer who, based on his analysis, came to the correct conclusion back in 2007, but what did our intelligence analysts and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who have much more information from all spheres of life and government in Ukraine, do? Did they draw conclusions about the possibility of an imminent military conflict with Ukraine? Did they report their findings to the president, or were they not listened to? Today we will not know this, but if the country’s leadership had understood in time what was going on in Ukraine and how it would affect Russia, then today, perhaps, of course, the guns would either have died down or would have thundered differently. However, we have what we have. In any case, our cause is just, victory will be ours.

Uv. Theseus,
I’ll try to convey my vision to yours:
1.all services of the Russian Federation were working, reports were received
according to the Charter and instructions, reports reached the highest level in several
embellished form, and the top leaders themselves tried not to make waves,
and they decided, as it seemed to them, all the difficult issues at the negotiating table and a glass of tea.
2. Remember the end of the 90s in the Russian Federation, the dominance of the Yankees in the government, the filthy media fed by Soros and the company, which had the goal of breaking the successor of the USSR into small ones
fragments, Putin's speech in 2007. at the annual conference on security in Geyrope
only spurred the pseudo-West to increase pressure on Russia, 2008 with Georgia,
Abkhazia and South Ossetia brought conclusions, but the majority of liberals in the Kremlin and government
They were a thorn in the country and pushed more often the interests of the West than the national ones.
3. Until 2014 and a little after the Russian Federation was too weak to fight as it is now
with all the world's evil; the default of the Chernomyrdin government in 1998, global
economic crises of 2008-2010, 2014-2015.
4. Latest attempts to negotiate peacefully with the pseudo-West in 2021, when illusions
not left.
5. The Kremlin’s difficult decision, when once again it was said about a united people,
fallen into the bondage of world evil.
Indeed, half of the Russians retained family and other ties with
once a fraternal republic, which is why it is so difficult for the Northern Military District to advance.
It's up to us to draw conclusions.

[nickname7]

Until 2014 and a little after the Russian Federation was too weak to fight as it is now

This is a complete lie. This is not a weak assessment, they believe the balance of forces, after the Maidan in Ukraine there was no actual government, no administration, no army, the Russian Federation at the time of 14 was simply a titanium; they would have been easily crushed.

[Repellent]

Quote: nickname7

after the Maidan, in Ukraine there was no actual government, no administration, no army; the Russian Federation at the time of 14 was simply a titanium; they would have been easily crushed

It's funny. So you think that the “collective West” would simply stand on the sidelines and look at all this? Does the name Burkhalter mean anything to you, by any chance?

[_KM_]

Unfortunately, we, i.e. The Russian Federation believed too early that the Cold War was over. And the states took advantage of this.

It’s very disappointing that we can’t repay them now, i.e. states, in the same coin.

[Escariot]

Quote: _KM_

Unfortunately, we, i.e. The Russian Federation believed too early that the Cold War was over. And the states took advantage of this.

It’s very disappointing that we can’t repay them now, i.e. states, in the same coin.

So in the 90s the Cold War really ended. The Soviet system was overthrown, and the Russian Federation became a poor capitalist country without any special ambitions.

[_KM_]

Unfortunately, we were the only ones who thought so. The States thought that this was not enough.

[Escariot]

Quote: _KM_

Unfortunately, we were the only ones who thought so. The States thought that this was not enough.

Not at all. This was enough for the States, but then, against the backdrop of high oil prices, Russia became rich, and with the wealth came ambitions.

[_KM_]

... and we considered ourselves an independent state? Maybe.

[nickname7]

Along with wealth comes ambition

This is a lie, the goal of the elites of the Russian Federation is to sell raw materials and export profits, there were no more ambitions, but NATO was creeping up and expanding, beginning to threaten the feeding zone.

[storm]

We still need to look for more incompetent politicians....
To break economic and military-political ties with most of the former Soviet republics and get involved in a war with a close neighbor - that would have required a lot of effort...

[_KM_]

Our politicians alone should not be blamed for the destruction of ties.

[Alexey Koshkarov]

There is no need to relax. The next one will most likely be Poland

[_KM_]

Most likely Poland and the Baltic states.

[Fan-fan]

It’s too late to fight the Balts; they are in NATO. Or do you want to test their determination to apply Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty? What if they don’t “screw you”, but use it, and what happens, they are 10 times stronger.

[Osiris]

I think within 5 years - it will start with NATO on the territory of the Baltic countries, Poland and Finland. They have the most territorial claims against Russia.

[Alex Starley]

A war with NATO will definitely involve the use of at least tactical nuclear weapons, but otherwise, there are a billion of them, there are 140 million of us. We cannot defeat them with Kalash and tanks at the ready.

[Serge9901]

"Believed or not believed" - it doesn't matter anymore. Now - what's the plan? Has anyone seen it? We're going with the flow wherever it takes us. As always, on a "maybe" basis? The status of the SVO is not enough, that's obvious. Negotiations will lead to even greater isolation, are we ready?

[Osiris]

Well, it's not the Gods who burn the pots...

[Jodesen]

This is populism. He knew everything, but in the current state, questions about the growth of prosperity, real change of power have disappeared for a long time. In conditions of peaceful life, it is difficult to explain to the people such a long stay in power of one clan, not justified by development, progress corresponding to the pace of the modern world, but now all this is easily explained. The main thing now is that the refrigerator is in the background. I think this will continue at least until the natural death of the "top of the Kremlin pyramid".

[Corvair]

But the point of no return, apparently, was passed much earlier, after the collapse of the USSR, but long before the Maidan. If you look in retrospect, things have been heading toward actual confrontation with NATO for a long time.

[Radical]

The Russian President said that until 2014 he did not believe in the possibility of an armed conflict with Ukraine

Mmm-yes-s... And who is in charge of the country called Russia? In any case, this "kitchen" answer gives rise to such a simple question. Like two women sitting in the kitchen, one says to the other: "But I didn't believe that yours would leave for another..." That's about the level. And then the question is - what were your special services doing, citizen President? If they were doing it, then the question is for you and your Security Council - how did you and this, with your permission, Security Council evaluate the incoming information? Or did it not come in, or did you not evaluate it? Ah-ah-ah, probably counting dollars for gas and oil, and how to invest more Russian money in American candy wrappers called securities. It's an oxymoron when the first person talks such nonsense, he apparently relaxed so much with the reindeer herder in the Altai Mountains in previous years that he either lost his political instinct, or as always, the wrong people, and they didn't report it that way, and the last option is that the citizen turned it on... But what he turned it on, let everyone decide for themselves.

[Yuras_Belarus]

Didn't believe it? Where did the OUN members and SS legionnaires come from in WWII? Where do the current national battalions come from?

[Escariot]

Quote: Yuras_Belarus

Didn't believe it? Where did the OUN members and SS legionnaires come from in WWII? Where do the current national battalions come from?

That's where ROA came from.

[Yuras_Belarus]

The ROA did not butt heads with the UPA, but worked for the same master. And my questions are not about betrayal, but about the very fact that some Ukrainians have long fallen into the abyss of another fascism. And once the “brown plague” appears somewhere, it can only infect a nation with war.

[fa2998]

Quote from Orange Bigg

enter into such a large-scale armed conflict.

But we didn’t even think about it until last year! We “thought” of winning a short-term military action. We brought in battalion groups. Almost a police operation—“demiratarization and denazification.”

[fa2998]

Quote: Jodesen

, but now all this is easily interpreted. The main thing now is that the refrigerator is in the background.

This is what they think. This propaganda has not reached many people for a long time. But filling the refrigerator is already overwhelming the thoughts of many. Money is getting cheaper.

[jamonchik]

On the one hand, let’s say Biden is talking such nonsense, complete nonsense... on the other hand, I couldn’t imagine the naivety of GDP, the partners cheated me again...

[nickname7]

Biden talks such nonsense, nonsense

Biden strictly adheres to the theme of the uniqueness of the nation and does not hesitate to call Xi Jin Ping a dictator immediately after negotiations with the latter.

[APASUS]

The head of state must always keep in mind all possible plans, including military ones. Sometimes we are amazed by the naivety of our leader and the belief that the West wanted to make a new Japan out of Ukraine

[nickname7]

The next phrase after "didn't believe" should be "I'm tired, I'm leaving." Otherwise, it may happen that the president doesn't believe in the existence of the red button and doesn't press it if necessary.

[heber]

The late Yu.M. Luzhkov warned about this back in the early 2000s, when he helped build housing in Sevastopol for our sailors. The current deputy also warned about the inevitable clash between Russia and Ukraine if our state’s policy towards its neighbor is indifferent State Duma of the Russian Federation K. Zatulin. But none of the current authorities wanted to listen to them. And now they turn on the “fool,” like we didn’t know, we couldn’t think.

[Qas]

those. The leadership of the operational services of the Russian Federation (FSB, SVR, GRU, etc.) did not have operational information about what was being prepared at the border of the Russian Federation. Right? Is this how it can be understood? Or did they hide it and not report it to the authorities?

[Sedoy]

Until 2014, I did not believe in the possibility of an armed conflict with Ukraine

And then I believed it, but it didn’t help... I sent paratroopers to the military base...

[Alexander Ra]

The problem of the degeneration of elites is the greatest in the “civilized world”; we, copyists, have not escaped this. Decisions are made secretly and in a narrow circle.
The All-Belarusian People's Assembly makes decisions on approval:
• the main directions of domestic and foreign policy (in the Russian Federation – the State Council, formed by the president, enshrined in the latest amendments to the constitution, which contradict its 3rd article);
• programs for the socio-economic development of the Republic of Belarus.
Belarusians have a social mechanism that preserves the quality of the elites, but we do not.

[_KM_]

Quote: Fan-Fan

It's too late to fight the Balts

The question is not that we want to fight with them, but that they are being set against Russia. In principle, as has already been written, the naval blockade that the Baltic countries are threatening to impose is in itself an act of military aggression.

[ximkim]

Well... we are lucky - Putin will surprise Russian citizens more than once.
Putin has everything for this (especially his team).

[jovanni]

Until 2014, it never occurred to me that there could be such a conflict between Russia and Ukraine

- noted the President of Russia.

In general, some neighbor in the garage, Uncle Vasya, could have said so. Or Petya. The President should not take the fate of millions of people so lightly. Citizen of his country. Having different special services, intelligence, analysts and so on...

[Tantalum]

Soooo they deceived the poor guy again. It's disgusting to even read.