The Project 152 nuclear submarine K-971 Nerpa, returned from lease by India, is proposed to be disposed of

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The Project 152 nuclear submarine K-971 Nerpa, returned from lease by India, is proposed to be disposed of

The nuclear submarine "Nerpa" of Project 2021U "Shchuka-B", returned from lease to the Indian Navy in 971, will be scrapped, a corresponding proposal was made by the Main Headquarters of the Russian Navy. This is reported by a source in the Russian defense industry.

The Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy has proposed dismantling the Project 971 nuclear submarine Nerpa, which is currently located at one of the shipyards in the Far East awaiting repairs. The submarine is in disrepair after an explosion occurred on it and its repair was considered inappropriate, primarily due to the cost of repairs.



The High Command of the Navy, for financial reasons, considers it inappropriate to repair and modernize the Nerpa, located at one of the shipyards near Vladivostok, and proposes to dispose of it

- leads TASS source words.

Let us recall that the Project 971 Nerpa nuclear submarine was leased to the Indian Navy in 2012 for a period of ten years. As part of the Indian fleet it was named S72 Chakra, and crews were trained on it for nuclear submarines built in Indian shipyards.

Although the submarine's lease expired in 2022, in 2021 the Indians announced the return of the Nerpa, saying that they had problems with the maintenance of the submarine, including with the power plant. As it turned out, the real reason for the return was the explosion of a high-pressure air cylinder located between the light and durable hulls, which led to their damage. The hull was repaired by Indian specialists, after which it was decided to send the submarine to Russia. Since the summer of 2021, it has been awaiting renovation.
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    1. +37
      November 16, 2023
      what the hell..."car sharing" was rolled away...although...crooked hands and ten years...
      1. +8
        November 16, 2023
        Anything can happen. Just recently in Moscow they caught the guys who removed good wheels from carsharing cars and put them there.
        1. +6
          November 16, 2023
          The High Command of the Navy, for financial reasons, considers it inappropriate to repair and modernize the Nerpa, located at one of the shipyards near Vladivostok, and proposes to dispose of it

          Cat Matroskin said:
          - To buy something you need, you need to sell something you don’t need! Maybe not literally, but the meaning is the same!
          We need to rephrase here:
          - To recycle, you must first build!
          1. +6
            November 16, 2023
            Technology in the hands of a savage is just a piece of iron!!! No need to thank for the truth...
            1. +24
              November 16, 2023
              In conditions of an acute shortage of all combat-ready units in our Navy and especially in the Pacific Fleet, it is a crime to write off a fairly modern MAPL, although an even greater crime was to lease out a modern submarine, especially in the absence of nuclear submarines in the Pacific Fleet.
              In the meantime, for the entire Pacific Fleet there is ONE Yasen-M from nuclear submarines capable of at least something to oppose the numerous American MAPLs, plus ONE more is expected next year and one half-dead Kuzbass of the same project as Nerpa. Another repaired MAPL will be leased to India. How the Kremlin is going to protect the vast expanses of responsibility of the Pacific Fleet, especially those bordering hostile countries with modern and numerous fleets, even the headless horseman does not understand.
              1. +6
                November 17, 2023
                Quote: ramzay21
                In conditions of an acute shortage of all combat-ready units in our Navy and especially in the Pacific Fleet, it is a crime to write off a fairly modern MAPL,

                If the towers were concerned about saturating the Pacific Fleet with combat units in the MAPL class, they would have long ago financed the completion of the latest modification of the Shchuka-B, which to this day occupies one of the stocks at the Amur Shipyard. The degree of its readiness is estimated at 70%, and it was built exclusively with money from the plant itself in the early 90s (having an order and not receiving financing, they decided to build with their own and loan funds in the expectation that the State would pay it off later), and now the amazing state of the Russian Federation ... does not want to pay for an almost completed warship, and this despite the acute shortage of ships of this class at the Pacific Fleet! Wryly they offered... to simply pay for the completion and pick up the submarine. belay And this is under capitalism. lol But it was precisely because of the costs of this submarine that the plant went bankrupt at one time and was almost cut into metal or repurposed to fulfill Gazprom’s orders...
                But it is enough to come to a compromise - to increase the capitalization of the plant by the amount of the cost of the PLA by buying out/imitating shares of the plant for the state. And the money for the development of the enterprise, and the submarine will be completed and replenish the Pacific Fleet, and the slipway will be freed, and the state will have more assets (new shares of the ASZ). Moreover, this is a completely new MAPL, plus the fact that it is currently undergoing repairs and modernization, and the new Ashes.
                1. 0
                  November 21, 2023
                  Quote: bayard
                  The degree of its readiness is estimated at 70%

                  Quote: bayard
                  exclusively with money from the plant itself in the early 90s

                  Quote: bayard
                  almost completed warship,

                  Quote: bayard
                  Moreover, this is absolutely new MAPL

                  You fool an hour?
                  Almost new(1990h) almost built(70%) ....
                  Or do you not understand something that stood 30 years. - 1) it is obscenely outdated, 2) almost everything there will have to be done anew - due to abandonment and lack of maintenance???
              2. 0
                November 17, 2023
                They are not going to do anything, they don’t need them. Whoever needs it, let him protect it.
            2. 0
              November 18, 2023
              They wrote that for the entire period of operation of this nuclear submarine by the Indians, our supervisors (military experts) were attached, who controlled and compiled reports for the two commands of the countries. If true, what was allowed to the press, ours noted the high professionalism and good training of the Indian crews of this nuclear submarine.
              And many doubted that India would even agree to take this nuclear submarine, and would not demand the money back with interest for the delay, due to the disaster with the LOH system during sea trials. But India cast aside all prejudices and took this emergency boat, where two dozen people died.
              I don’t know the reason for the explosion of the VVD cylinder, after which India returned the boat ahead of schedule, but if this is not sabotage with an external charge, then it is definitely a manufacturing defect and our fault. It is physically impossible to pump the cylinder and the entire VVD system before the explosion. The compressor has several degrees of protection and if the cylinder has not been exposed to external influences, then this is a factory defect... it happens.
              The boat was launched in 2006 and all of its “classmates” in our Navy were decommissioned, except for four that have undergone or are still undergoing a major modernization from the III to the IV generation of nuclear submarines. It was considered a waste of money to engage in such a modernization of the Nerpa, battered by accidents; it was better to start building a new one.
          2. +1
            November 17, 2023
            The guys at the Zvezda plant know their work well, if they said that expensive means expensive to restore.
            1. +2
              November 17, 2023
              Zvezda has a whole herd of MAPLs and Batonov waiting in line for repairs, and this one will probably take longer to tinker with and will cost more. We now need to do repairs/modernization as quickly as possible in order to have time to return to service at least part of what has accumulated in the repair queue.
        2. +6
          November 16, 2023
          If you have the hands, car sharing such a klandike for spare parts for resale is a goldmine. There are no fillings.
      2. +13
        November 16, 2023
        Indians, their mother... However, wasn’t it on this submarine that we had an appalling incident with a sailor who turned on the fire extinguishing system and killed two dozen people? There are plenty of our own chumadurs...
        1. +8
          November 16, 2023
          Wasn’t there an alarming incident on this submarine with a sailor who turned on the fire extinguishing system and killed two dozen people?

          At this
        2. +5
          November 17, 2023
          A sailor was appointed, it was necessary to imprison people with big stars, but this is not customary here.
          1. +1
            November 21, 2023
            Quote: Igor K
            It was necessary to imprison people with big stars, but this is not customary here.

            Exactly, not accepted. On June 22.06.1941, XNUMX, Zhukov, as the NGSH of the Red Army, had to cut a centimeter every day on Red Square....
            And so, there is no one to blame, Hitler somehow succeeded....
      3. +15
        November 16, 2023
        They have gained experience in operating other people’s nuclear-powered ships, and now they will treat their own with care. They have already built the first one and are planning to build five more. So these dancers organized excursions to the submarine so that they were not our friends, but rather our enemies.
      4. +1
        November 16, 2023
        For almost $2 billion for leasing, surprisingly the Indians returned something else. lol
        1. +5
          November 16, 2023
          Quote: tralflot1832
          For almost $2 billion for leasing, surprisingly the Indians returned something else.

          Returned. And they even say “I liked it!”
          In March 2019, a Russian-Indian agreement was signed in New Delhi on the long-term lease of another Project 971 nuclear attack submarine from the Russian Navy to India, with the cost of the agreement estimated at $3,3 billion.
          1. +4
            November 16, 2023
            Of course it’s a pity for the boat, we don’t have any extra. But it can be used as a donor.
          2. +1
            November 17, 2023
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            they even “liked it!”
            In March 2019, a Russian-Indian agreement was signed in New Delhi on the long-term lease of another Project 971 nuclear attack submarine from the Russian Navy to India, with the cost of the agreement estimated at $3,3 billion.

            And this is while we do not have enough repair capacity to return to service the MAPLs that are in line for repairs... When the unfinished Shchuka-B to this day lies on the slipway of the Amur Shipyard at 70% completion.
            I hope that now we are not talking about any transfer of submarines “for rent” ... although ... the parasite has no measure in treason. And after all, India has already openly taken a place in the camp of our opponents...
    2. +13
      November 16, 2023
      The Indians also carried out repairs on the hulls at the site of the explosion and finally wrecked the boat.
      1. +17
        November 16, 2023
        This boat is haunted by fate, at first it hung on the stocks in Komsomolsk on the Amur in the 90s, then during the acceptance tests part of the crew died (at that time all the pensioners in the city were collected to conduct the tests, thank God my father then refused to go to sea), and now the “skilled” Indians managed to blow up the VVD cylinder
        1. +15
          November 16, 2023
          Quote: Popandos
          "Skilled" Indians managed to blow up a VVD cylinder

          It’s hard to imagine that the explosion of a VVD cylinder would leave the boat in a condition beyond repair.
          1. +11
            November 16, 2023
            It’s hard to imagine that the explosion of a VVD cylinder would leave the boat in a condition beyond repair.

            Well, it depends where it exploded, the VVD cylinders are lying between the frames, the light hull is probably torn, but this is not fatal, the strong hull is unlikely to be pierced, but if it was deformed so that the alignments, turbines or the main line of the shaft have moved, there is no way without capital, Just open the durable case. This may be why it is not advisable to carry out repairs.
            1. 0
              November 16, 2023
              Quote: Popandos
              This may be why it is not advisable to carry out repairs.

              The ship needs a moderate repair; it seems they don’t see any point in sending it to Severodvinsk.
              1. +2
                November 16, 2023
                The submarine is in disrepair after an explosion occurred on it and its repair was considered inappropriate, primarily due to the cost of repairs.

                What kind of average repair are we talking about, what are you talking about?
          2. +5
            November 16, 2023
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            It’s hard to imagine that the explosion of a VVD cylinder would leave the boat in a condition beyond repair.

            Just imagine! If after the “refurbishment” the Indians refused to use it further... and she went home in a SURFACE position, accompanied by a Tug and a BOD!
            the nuclear submarine S 72 Chakra left Visakhapatnam on May 27, and on June 3-4 passed on the surface through the Strait of Malacca, heading to Vladivostok, and in the Strait of Malacca the boat was accompanied by the Russian large anti-submarine ship of the Pacific Fleet "Admiral Tributs" of project 1155 and a rescue tug " Kalar." The boat's crossing is reportedly being carried out by an Indian crew.
          3. +1
            November 18, 2023
            . It’s hard to imagine that the explosion of a VVD cylinder would leave the boat in a condition beyond repair.


            An Airbus tire exploding like a magpie shell. And here the pressure is 400 atmospheres. This is 400 kg for every square cm. And the boat’s hull is designed, let’s say, for a maximum depth of 600 meters. With a reserve of course. And this is “only” 60 kg per sq. cm. And the thickness of the cylinder wall is several cm. And the length is several meters. The lightweight body will tear like paper. The frames will be torn to hell. The local impact on the pressure hull is enormous. And it is not distributed as during immersion. Local dent on a durable case - how do you fix it? No way. Change site? Then the whole shell. Cut the boat, etc. This is a major overhaul. Worth a hell of a lot of money.
            The specialists examined it, did a flaw detection test and rendered a verdict. It's nothing you can do.
        2. +2
          November 16, 2023
          Quote: Popandos
          At first it hung on the stocks in Komsomolsk on the Amur in the 90s, then during the acceptance tests part of the team died (then all the pensioners in the city were gathered to carry out the tests, thank God the father then refused to go to sea), and now they are “skilled” Indians managed to blow up a VVD cylinder

          Don’t you think that these are all links in one chain?
          1. -1
            November 16, 2023
            Don’t you think that these are all links in one chain?

            In part, yes, the 90s will spoil us for a long time.
        3. 0
          November 17, 2023
          I saw these Indians in Sosnovy Bor during training. They were crushed to death there at -10 degrees.
      2. +7
        November 16, 2023
        The Indians also carried out repairs on the hulls at the site of the explosion and finally wrecked the boat.
        These gypsies cannot be trusted with anything. Let them grow tea better, they do it well.
        1. -1
          November 16, 2023
          Are the Yankees already happy about this cooperation, instead of us? Or have their dancers not yet brought in replacement catapult-finishers for submarines and other things?
        2. +1
          November 18, 2023
          No, Ceylon tea is better. And the Indians are better at dancing, although this is also not for everyone.
    3. +10
      November 16, 2023
      And they don’t want to compensate for damages received while you were renting? Or did welders in slippers cover it up with corrugated sheets from a nearby fence, and that’s fine?
      1. +4
        November 16, 2023
        Quote: Chernyaev Roman
        And they don’t want to compensate for damages received while you were renting?

        I remember when I rented a bike as a child, when it was returned to me, for every scratch on it, they calculated almost as much compensation as I paid for renting it.
        1. +1
          November 18, 2023
          Why did you scratch him, out of boredom or something? Or out of spite...
    4. +5
      November 16, 2023
      If you don't know how to use it, don't bother
    5. +3
      November 16, 2023
      They used it and ruined it at the end of operation (-we didn’t do it on purpose, it happened by accident... - the submarine is wrong) all in the style of their spiritual fathers, the Anglo-Saxons. No? Hindi Rusi bhai bhai?
      1. 0
        November 16, 2023
        Quote: mark1
        No? Hindi Rusi bhai bhai?

        Even bhai-perebhai. Yes
      2. +2
        November 16, 2023
        Quote: mark1
        Used and ruined at the end of use

        Ehh, our people have a short memory.
        This boat was damaged during construction. Rampant theft and sloppiness.
        Read about Nerpa, and the death of 20 people during sea trials.
    6. +1
      November 16, 2023
      Normal rental.... So then the boat is scrapped
      1. +1
        November 16, 2023
        This is leasing. Usually, at the end of the term, the equipment is given to the renter for next to nothing.
    7. +3
      November 16, 2023
      It’s okay, they still have Vikramaditya. Also almost ready for disposal.
      1. 0
        November 17, 2023
        They need to say thank you for Gorshkov. Here he died in the late 90s. The officers were afraid to go down. The second seal went...
    8. 0
      November 16, 2023
      In principle, leasing is leasing. Of course, I didn’t read the submarine leasing agreement. But I leased cars several times. It states with what maximum mileage it can be returned and the number of dots and teals on the body. But there is not a word there about, for example, what the seat may be dented and/or how many accidents have been repaired (at your expense)
      1. 0
        November 16, 2023
        I’ll tell you a secret, Leasing is rent with purchase. In a year the boat would have become Indian, and they returned it, meaning we got a 9-year lease and the boat back. No matter what damage, we have the boat.
        1. Alf
          +2
          November 16, 2023
          Quote: Victor Sergeev
          we have the boat.

          And what should we do with it now?
          1. 0
            November 17, 2023
            Quote: Alf
            And what should we do with it now?

            Well, since the decision has been made to write off and dispose of it, then dispose of it. It has a durable titanium body, non-ferrous metals, rare earths with precious metals on avionics, ship steel with high/increased fluidity, and the work of a shipyard, which is currently loaded with such disposals.
            Or you can simply unload and dismantle the reactor and just put it into storage until better times. If it’s a pity that the money for disposal is not available.
            1. Alf
              +1
              November 17, 2023
              Quote: bayard
              Well, since the decision has been made to write off and dispose of it, then dispose of it

              That's what I'm talking about. In an everyday, everyday sense, you can say this: Well, what should we do with it now? Just throw it away, you can’t think of anything else.
            2. +1
              November 17, 2023
              Who has a titanium case? Do not confuse with pr. 945
            3. +1
              November 18, 2023
              .It has a durable titanium case,


              No, the body is steel. The “animals” were not made of titanium.
        2. +1
          November 16, 2023
          Quote: Victor Sergeev
          Leasing is rent with purchase

          not always at all.. 2 options - as you described or simply return after the deadline, depending on what kind of agreement there was - I doubt that the Indians were given the right to buy out..
    9. +5
      November 16, 2023
      But no one... was at least surprised by the fact that the nuclear submarine was being leased out? Although, we have handed over all our mineral resources to the oligarchs for use.
      1. +9
        November 16, 2023
        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        But no one... was at least surprised by the fact that the nuclear submarine was being leased out? Although, we have handed over all our mineral resources to the oligarchs for use.

        What do oligarchs have to do with it? The practice of leasing nuclear submarines began in Soviet times. Negotiations began in 1982, and in January 1988, the USSR leased the Project 43 SSGN K-670 to India, which also received the name “Chakra” from the Indians, but with the number S-71.
        And which they also killed.
        ...the Indian commander decided to dive to 250 meters to determine the type of hydrology. My attempt to convince him to abandon this idea and limit himself to 150 meters, citing the fact that the submarine is no longer a girl, but a mature woman for whom such loads do not lead to anything, did not lead to success. True, we managed to get him to sound the alarm and increase the speed.
        Formally, of course, he was right, since the ship should have been able to submerge to a much greater depth, but ...
        At a depth of 180 meters, the rubber-metal branch pipe of the auxiliary equipment cooling system in the hold of the 3rd compartment was torn out, a meter from the largest electrical mechanisms - a reversible converter, VPR [rotary converter - MK] and the main switchboard of the starboard side.
        In a matter of seconds, while the power and stroke were increased to full, the hold was filled with seawater, which flooded the reversible converter, VPR and closed the supply tires of the main switchboard.
        From a powerful electric arc, the main shield blazed like a sheet of paper and melted, spewing molten metal around. When switching power to the other side, the reactor's emergency protection was overwhelmed at 90% power and at a depth of 160 meters we were left without power, without power, with jammed horizontal rudders, with a fire on the lower deck and a filled hold of the central compartment.
    10. +1
      November 16, 2023
      They reduced the Indian's submarine to the point of scrap metal.
      Apparently the lease agreement was such that the Indians had no responsibility.
    11. -4
      November 16, 2023
      Did the Indians pay the fine for the damage? The boat needs to be restored at their expense, we already have problems with the submarine!
    12. +3
      November 16, 2023
      This boat was originally built in one place. Even with inert freon for LOX, they stole money and filled it with poisonous, cheaper tetrachlorethylene. The boat was built to last, which is why the LOCH triggered spontaneously and the poisonous gas killed 20 people. It’s not at all surprising that the VVD cylinder exploded. Fortunately, it’s not in the depths, otherwise there would have been another tragedy. So the Hindus decided to get rid of this rubbish and not tempt fate. And they did the right thing.
      Well, we...we didn’t draw any conclusions. They continued to saw and saw the country, the budget, the army and the navy. Now we're eating to the fullest. And there is no end in sight.
      1. 0
        November 16, 2023
        Tell me, are you being a fool or are you just talking nonsense? What does the construction of the boat, its quality and poor-quality filling of the LOX have to do with it? No wonder you are lumping everything together. Nerpa is one of the best UAVs in the world, its characteristics are close to the American 4th generation UAVs.
        1. +4
          November 16, 2023
          Quote: Victor Sergeev
          Tell me, are you being a fool or are you just talking nonsense? What does the construction of the boat, its quality and poor-quality filling of the LOX have to do with it?

          You study the topic of that disaster, then write nonsense.
          Does the spontaneous operation of the LOX system also have anything to do with construction?
          Further, quality control of supplied materials and components and system components also has nothing to do with construction? On a warship, in a critically important system, who knows who put who knows what. And no one knows how it happened. This all has nothing to do with construction, of course. And the same explosion of the air pressure system only confirms the “quality” of the boat’s construction. 10 years is nothing, even for diesel-electric submarines. So, there is no need to blame it on the Indians.
          You definitely have nothing to do with production and construction.
          As for one of the best PROJECT multipurpose nuclear submarines, no one argues with that. The question is how this particular instance was built.
    13. +9
      November 16, 2023
      Maybe it would be better to give it to Eun? this one will repair and make some noise bully
      The enthusiastic squeal of Seoul, Washington and Tokyo is guaranteed....
    14. +4
      November 16, 2023
      That is, wasting a lot of money on repairing Kuzi, which is not needed for nothing, is welcome, keeping Moscow in a puddle, exposing it to missiles, yes, we are always ready, but repairing a submarine that is no worse than the newest American ones, no, is not profitable. Or maybe change the headquarters of the Navy?
      1. 0
        November 16, 2023
        renting out a nuclear combat boat to anyone is either unforgivable stupidity or betrayal. No one in the world from normal countries has done this. So we got the natural result... We were left without a combat unit. That she was superfluous in our fleet? These 2 billion may still come back to haunt us, given that we are now building such boats for 8-9 years. And if it weren’t for our stupidity, this one could still go around and carry out combat missions for another 10-15 years, defending our country.
        1. 0
          November 16, 2023
          It is immediately obvious that you do not know what leasing is. This is actually the sale of a boat, just payment is for 10 years, in the form of a lease. They had a year left and the boat would become Indian.
        2. +1
          November 17, 2023
          Quote: wladimirjankov
          renting out a nuclear combat boat to anyone is either unforgivable stupidity or betrayal. No one in the world from normal countries has done this.

          Let’s write it down: the USSR is an abnormal country. Because before Nerpa, India had already rented the Soviet nuclear submarine K-43 once.
        3. +1
          November 21, 2023
          Quote: wladimirjankov
          or unforgivable stupidity or betrayal. In the world none of normal countries did not do this.
          Why are you USSR"abnormal country" called you a name???!!!
          Or was the CPSU a bunch of fools or traitors???!
          Quote: Alexey RA
          The practice of leasing nuclear submarines began in Soviet times. Negotiations took place with 1982 year, and in January 1988, the USSR leased the Project 43 SSGN K-670 to India. Which also received the name “Chakra” from the Indians, but with the number S-71.
      2. 0
        November 17, 2023
        Agree that ships of this rank and type look very good in photos, videos and parades. And the submarine... You can’t even see it under water. What the hell is a postcard? laughing
    15. Alf
      +5
      November 16, 2023
      The hull was repaired by Indian specialists, after which it was decided to send the submarine to Russia. Since the summer of 2021, it has been awaiting renovation.

      The dancers were once again prevented from repairing the boat properly by their primary sexual characteristics...
    16. 0
      November 16, 2023
      So the Indians crap the submarine - just for scrapping?
    17. +1
      November 16, 2023
      Tomorrow they will write: the information about disposal has not been confirmed, “a source in the Russian defense industry” turned out to be a source from Ukrainian weapons...
      1. +1
        November 17, 2023
        "Nerpa" was expelled from the Navy on July 25 this year.
    18. 0
      November 16, 2023
      The submarine is in disrepair after an explosion occurred on it and its repairs were considered inappropriate, primarily due to repair costs.

      The boat was returned in 2021, although its lease to the Indian Navy expired in 2022.
      Well, we had to charge them for the repairs. Or did they solve the problem again “in their own way”?
    19. 0
      November 16, 2023
      That is, they had an explosion due to clumsy hands - and they return the boat to us, like this is our problem?
    20. +2
      November 16, 2023
      That is, they had an explosion due to clumsy hands - and they return the boat to us, like this is our problem?
    21. -1
      November 17, 2023
      It’s a strange attitude to destroy carriers of nuclear weapons in a state of armed conflict... Do we have too many of them? The same question applies to the Sharks! They can even tear America away from the wall. So what's going on?
      1. +3
        November 17, 2023
        They can tear America down from the wall
        - nothing to demolish request
        those missiles are no longer there, but they don’t want to remake them
        1. +1
          November 17, 2023
          Quote: faiver
          those missiles are no longer there, but they don’t want to remake them

          Because the rework would be a job in vain: after the modernization, the write-off date would soon approach. The boats are not new - they were built in the 80s.
          Plus, if the plant is busy reworking Project 941, then the production of new SSBNs and SSBNs will sharply decrease.
          1. 0
            November 17, 2023
            Project 941, left without missiles, was destroyed in the north. No alteration, especially in the east.
    22. -1
      November 17, 2023
      Quote: Zoer
      The question is how this particular instance was built.

      This is for sure, the project may even be unique in its own way, but the quality of construction will reduce everything to nothing. Well, approximately like the T-34s manufactured at different factories with different quality, let’s remember about the “Sormovo freaks”.
      1. +1
        November 17, 2023
        971 projects were done by Komsomolsk and the entire project served and is serving properly.
    23. +4
      November 17, 2023
      Actually, a nuclear submarine costs billions of dollars...How simple it is with us, the Indians actually destroyed the boat and pushed it back to Russia. Russian experts came to the conclusion that it would be easier to build a new one... Well, the Russian budget is welling up, it turns out that this is some kind of bottomless barrel. “The chickens don’t peck for money in it” Just one question, how was the contract drawn up, what kind of damage to property did the Indians get off with a slight fright? Why is it that, as always, no one is responsible for anything?
      1. +3
        November 17, 2023
        The contract was probably drawn up by effective managers who knew how to earn money from their own pockets.
      2. +4
        November 17, 2023
        Well, you are just like children. The Indians paid whoever they needed.
      3. 0
        November 21, 2023
        Quote: HellAmigo
        Actually, a nuclear submarine costs billions of dollars...How simple it is here, the Indians actually destroyed the boat and pushed it back to Russia.

        Actually, they have already paid 2.2 billion dollars for it, if they had paid for it for another year, it would have become theirs. Fully...
    24. +3
      November 17, 2023
      Has the boat even paid for itself after 10 years of rent?
      Or the rental money went past the cash register...
    25. 0
      November 17, 2023
      What did you want from the gypsies with tambourines, wreaths, songs and dances? It’s normal, they drove it, broke it, and it seems like they slipped some bullshit into it. What a mess is going on in the army, navy, military-industrial complex - it will be worse than the shavar specialists. But ours didn’t even dream of it so easily.))) And this despite all this, that on their own, except for AK and T72, and then under license, they cannot produce anything themselves. Whatever they did there, the end result was nothing but zilch.
      1. +2
        November 17, 2023
        "India exports about twelve percent of the world's weapons, while at the same time importing weapons for its own use." When Pashinyan started buying 155 mm artillery from the Indians - this was not at all a sign of a different standard, different from the CSTO...Everyone in the apeshechka was purple...By the way, Indian officers (Navy) pleasantly surprised the teachers who taught them in ours with their education then academies... some had two higher degrees, plus languages.
      2. 0
        November 17, 2023
        The circus alone with the development and trials of launching the Arjun MBT series is worth something.
    26. 0
      November 17, 2023
      The heirs of Krishna are not friendly with technology; they also periodically have problems (accidents) on our submarines.
      In the context of this problem, their choice of Western arms suppliers (from time to time) is extremely strange; with their crookedness, the simpler and more reliable the better.
    27. -1
      November 17, 2023
      Here the Indians, as if on purpose, right at the end of the lease, it would be a pity to scrap it, a boat that our fleet really needs, and I strongly doubt that there is no way to repair it, for me, talking about scrapping the rather modern 971 Shchuka-b is like a knife to the heart . And in general, what kind of cretin, given the current state of the fleet, leased it out, this is simply sabotage.
    28. +1
      November 17, 2023
      The Indians cleaned her chakras quite well, even repairs are impractical.
    29. 0
      November 18, 2023
      What a powerful compressed air cylinder!!! :)))
    30. 0
      November 18, 2023
      Apparently, ours are not the same, but the Indians are still such hands-offs.
    31. 0
      November 20, 2023
      Lies. There cannot be any critical damage from an explosion of a high pressure cylinder outside the pressure hull. That is why they are installed there. Such repairs are pennies compared to building a new boat. In general, apparently, there are people inside the Moscow Region who, wittingly or unwittingly, do harm, since a boat of this type is still effective. And this is not the only example of a ship being decommissioned that can serve for a long time.
      1. 0
        November 21, 2023
        Quote: Polar Bear
        Lies. There cannot be any critical damage from an explosion of a high pressure cylinder outside the pressure hull.

        Here you decide among yourselves - otherwise one of you will do something.....
        I’m not a submariner, I was just wondering which of you two performs the artistic whistle....
        Quote: Podvodnik
        An Airbus tire exploding like a magpie shell. And here the pressure is 400 atmospheres. This is 400 kg for every square cm. And the boat’s hull is designed, let’s say, for a maximum depth of 600 meters. With a reserve of course. And this is “only” 60 kg per sq. cm. And the thickness of the cylinder wall is several cm. And the length is several meters. The lightweight body will tear like paper. The frames will be torn to hell. The local impact on the pressure hull is enormous. And it is not distributed as during immersion. Local dent on a durable case - how do you fix it? No way. Change site? Then the whole shell. Cut the boat, etc. This is a major overhaul. Worth a hell of a lot of money.
        The specialists examined it, did a flaw detection test and rendered a verdict. It's nothing you can do.
    32. 0
      November 22, 2023
      Something about the author’s article doesn’t quite work out. According to the Wiki search with the question of the Nerpa nuclear submarine, information is given that the boat was leased for NINE HUNDRED million dollars (with reference to a source), and according to other sources the amount is about SEVEN HUNDRED million dollars. Knowing the stinginess of these Indians the numbers seem more plausible. And from this it follows that the boat was lost at “cost”, and taking into account incomplete payments, a UNIQUE TITANIUM hull, a sharp increase in ALL resources, the relative “young” age of the boat and extremely long construction times for new boats, and especially for Pacific Fleet, we have we have losses and losses in defense capability. Moreover, losses in defense capability, in the current situation, are much more expensive than money. To summarize, someone lost a lot on this, or “got on.”

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