Death by a thousand cuts. Attacks on non-essential infrastructure

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Death by a thousand cuts. Attacks on non-essential infrastructure


Cost / efficiency


As part of a special military operation (SVO), unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) - kamikazes of the "Geran-2" type and their analogues - have become one of the most effective means of influencing the infrastructure of Ukraine and the rear facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU).



A distinctive feature of UAVs of this type is their low cost, providing an optimal cost/effectiveness ratio when hitting most types of targets. The low cost of kamikaze UAVs leads to the fact that even their destruction by the enemy using anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAMs) is unprofitable for the enemy from the point of view of the cost/effectiveness criterion - the cost of destroyed kamikaze UAVs is often significantly lower than the cost of the SAMs that destroy them. However, this rule does not always work, in particular, when the means of destroying a UAV turn out to be much cheaper than it, this is possible, for example, in the case of destroying a kamikaze UAV:

– rifle weapons and/or small-caliber automatic guns;
– man-portable anti-aircraft missile systems (MANPADS);
– anti-tank guided missile systems (ATGM);
– outdated anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM) with inexpensive missiles;
– electronic warfare (EW) means.

Small arms, small-caliber automatic guns, MANPADS and ATGMs ensure destruction of kamikaze UAVs only at low altitudes; accordingly, the probability of being hit by the above weapons can be minimized by increasing the flight altitude of the kamikaze UAV to the maximum possible, provided by its flight performance characteristics (FTC). This issue was previously discussed in the material “Gain altitude: new tactics for using the Geranium-2 UAV will allow you to maximally deplete Ukrainian air defense”.


When flying at high altitude, followed by a dive on the target, kamikaze UAVs of the “Geran-2” type become practically invulnerable to “inexpensive” air defense systems

As for outdated air defense systems with inexpensive missiles, then, based on open data, Few such air defense systems were supplied to the air defense forces of Ukraine.In addition, the question arises of the effectiveness of radar stations (radars) of outdated air defense systems in terms of the detection range of kamikaze UAVs that are quite subtle in the radar range.

In addition, it is potentially possible to reduce losses from enemy air defense systems by using towed decoys, which was previously discussed in the material “Towed decoys for the Geran-2 UAV will reduce the effectiveness of Ukrainian air defense systems by 1,5–2 times”.

In turn, the electronic warfare systems used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, apparently, are for the most part unable to suppress Russian kamikaze UAVs, as evidenced by regularly recurring cases of them hitting targets deep in the territory of Ukraine.

On the other hand, it cannot be denied that Ukrainian air defense systems still manage to destroy some of the Russian kamikaze UAVs; in addition, one can notice a slight decrease in the intensity of attacks by kamikaze UAVs and other long-range precision weapons (LTO BD) on Kiev. In turn, this suggests that air defense and electronic warfare systems densely concentrated around Kyiv ensure the destruction of at least part of the Russian military-technical base, which makes such raids less effective.

Unfortunately, the cost/effectiveness criterion in the case of Ukraine does not work fully, since we spend our own funds on the Northern Military District, and Ukraine spends funds from the United States, Great Britain and other Western countries, and the Ukrainian leadership clearly does not care how empty their pockets are. In such conditions, the destruction of kamikaze UAVs costing several tens of thousands of dollars with the help of missile defense systems costing several million dollars is quite acceptable for Ukraine.


The cost of one missile defense system used by the Patriot air defense system is comparable to the cost, according to various estimates, of approximately 50–250 kamikaze UAVs of the Geranium-2 type, but for the Ukrainian Armed Forces this does not matter - the banquet is paid for by the Americans and Europeans

Thus, there is an objective need to find ways to maximize damage to the enemy using high-tech weapons, primarily relatively inexpensive kamikaze UAVs, taking into account minimizing the risks of their destruction by enemy air defense and electronic warfare systems.

Presumably, one of these ways is to strike the enemy’s secondary infrastructure facilities located outside the range of his air defense and electronic warfare systems, so that the damage caused is comparable to striking his key protected objects.

Let's consider this method using the example of disruption of the railway infrastructure and disruption of power supply.

Destruction of railway infrastructure


About a year ago, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation began systematically striking the traction power substations of the Ukrainian railways in order to partially or completely paralyze the movement of electric trains. At that moment, it seemed that the goal was “just about” to be achieved, at least that’s what some well-known bloggers claimed, but at some point the attacks on traction power substations stopped. Either more worthy goals appeared for the WTO DB, or someone needed the Ukrainian railway intact, or striking traction power substations was considered ineffective.

Also, attacks were carried out periodically on railway junctions, however, most likely, their main target was trains with equipment, ammunition and personnel, and the destruction of the railway tracks themselves was a by-product.

As an alternative, striking the railway tracks directly could be considered. It is believed that railway tracks damaged by an explosion can be restored as soon as possible, but conditions could potentially be created in which this would be difficult or even practically impossible.

Firstly, this is the geography of the strikes, in particular the following conditions must be met:

– main routes are selected that do not have or have a limited number of bypass routes;
– the longest stretches are selected;
– access by road is difficult or absent (highlands, wooded, swampy areas, etc.);
– strikes are delivered to points located at the maximum distance from repair services;
– strikes are delivered to points outside the range of enemy air defense and electronic warfare systems.


Scheme of Ukrainian railways

Secondly, the tactics of application:

– the first blow is delivered to the railway track;
– the second blow is applied to the same place, during the estimated period of time when work to restore the railway track should be carried out;
– subsequent paired strikes are delivered at intervals that do not allow for complete restoration of the functionality of the section of railway tracks selected for attack.

Thirdly, the modification of the kamikaze UAV:

– to deliver the first strike, a kamikaze UAV with a high-explosive warhead is used;
– to deliver the second strike, a kamikaze UAV with a cluster warhead is used;
– for guidance, a civilian coordinate guidance system can be used, which is less resistant to the effects of electronic warfare (since the impact of electronic warfare is not expected);
– additionally, to improve the guidance accuracy, due to the simplicity of the recognized image (parallel rails), the kamikaze UAV can be equipped with an optical guidance system based on civilian components.

How will it look in practice?

After determining the optimal points for delivering strikes, in accordance with paragraph “geography”, strikes are delivered almost simultaneously at all “pinching points”. The kamikaze UAV route should be laid away from the line of combat contact (LCC), large populated areas, military and industrial facilities, which could potentially be covered by air defense and electronic warfare systems.

Before striking, kamikaze UAVs are placed on a course that coincides with the direction of the selected section of railway tracks; in the presence of an optical guidance system, the point of impact (between the rails) is adjusted.

After the strikes are carried out, traffic along the enemy's main railway lines stops. While in theory it could only take a few hours to restore the damaged section, in practice the tracks would need to be cleared to allow repair trains to pass through, which would ultimately lead to delays.

For each point, the time of the second strike is determined by calculation and/or according to human intelligence data (or other methods). Ideally, the blow should be delivered at the beginning of the repair work, which will lead to the incapacitation of repair vehicles, equipment and specialists, in the absence of completed track repairs.

Then the cycle repeats.

Power failure


In many ways, the task of disrupting power supply is equivalent to that solved for disrupting railway traffic, only instead of the railway track, towers of high-voltage power lines (PTLs) must be affected.


High voltage power line 750 kW

The geography and tactics of striking are selected according to similar criteria: points as far away from “civilization” as possible, with complex terrain of forests/hills/swamps, and the absence of enemy air defense and electronic warfare systems nearby. Strikes should also be applied in pairs - to disable power transmission towers and to disrupt repair and restoration work.


Map of power grids of Ukraine

Taking into account the specifics of power lines, several payload options for kamikaze UAVs can be additionally considered:

– pressure-action anti-personnel mines of the “Lepestok” type;
– metallized or graphite fibers.

Lepestok-type anti-personnel mines can be planted immediately after a strike to disable power lines. Considering that dense thickets of grass, bushes and undergrowth almost always grow under power line towers, mine clearance will be a rather difficult and time-consuming task.

The advantage of this method is that there is no need to determine the time of arrival of repair crews to strike them and disrupt repair and restoration work.

As for metallized threads and graphite fibers, for some reason this type of ammunition is not used by the Russian Armed Forces, although potentially this could be a very interesting solution for disrupting the operation of enemy power supply facilities, however, this is rather a matter of backfilling.

Conclusions


It will be quite difficult for the enemy to counter attacks delivered in the proposed format.

If we strengthen air defense, then where: along the entire length of all routes of main railways and power lines? Build all-round air defense around the country? Even Russia cannot do this.

Organize “flying squads” of air defense and electronic warfare to accompany repair teams? It is possible, but it will not be easy, in addition, knowing about this format of counteraction, the Russian Armed Forces may become “interested,” and in this case, the air defense systems themselves may become a target for somewhat more serious weapons than kamikaze UAVs.

So the disabling of Ukrainian railways and electrical networks will indirectly contribute to the destruction of the Ukrainian air defense system.


By using air defense systems to protect repair crews, the Ukrainian Armed Forces can make them vulnerable to attacks by the Russian Armed Forces

If the safety of the repair teams is not ensured, then after a while they will simply run out or they will begin to deliberately sabotage the work and look for reasons to delay the trip to the site as much as possible.

The methods proposed above for disrupting the operation of railway communications and power supply will only work if they systematically influence the “pain points”, that is, railway tracks that provide most of the train traffic and high-voltage power lines coming from power plants and high-voltage substations.

It is characteristic that the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of Ukraine is already striking Russian railways and power lines using sabotage reconnaissance groups (DRGs) and recruited agents, however, due to the small number of DRGs and the poverty of the recruited agents (who are usually poorly educated, easily suggestible asocial individuals ), such sabotage is carried out haphazardly, which does not allow it to have any serious impact on the operation of Russian railways and power supply networks.

On the other hand, with systematic and systematic strikes against secondary infrastructure facilities in Ukraine, a cumulative effect will be achieved. In particular, when systematically striking railway tracks, in accordance with the proposed algorithm, “thrombus” effects will occur when traffic jams are created on the routes blocked by the strikes, increasing over time.

In turn, when main power lines fail, sudden unpredictable power outages will occur, which can lead to an uneven load on the remaining power grids, rolling blackouts and failure of high-voltage equipment.

In fact, the railway communication of Ukraine will be paralyzed, and the electricity supply will be significantly disrupted.

An additional advantage of striking secondary infrastructure is the ability to quickly restore the infrastructure as a whole immediately after the strikes cease, which may be necessary after the denazification of a particular region of Ukraine is completed.
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  1. +6
    20 November 2023 05: 06

    – the first blow is delivered to the railway track;
    – the second blow is applied to the same place, during the estimated period of time when work to restore the railway track should be carried out;

    We don’t feel sorry for the mobilized ones pulled out from the eastern regions, almost, it’s enough to feel sorry for the repair brigades and firefighters.
    But it’s better to hit at the switch crossings, because It's just that the rails are replaced very quickly.
  2. +27
    20 November 2023 06: 00
    Communications!!! Communications must be cut! Bridges and railway communications. Without this, they won't last even a month. Hit bridges and locomotive depots. There is no point in sparing bridges; anyway, in the event of an attack, the Ukrainians will blow up EVERYTHING. So why are we giving them the opportunity to wage this war?
    1. +10
      20 November 2023 09: 38
      Apparently our authorities have some special goals.
      1. +3
        20 November 2023 11: 15
        Quote: Million
        Apparently our authorities have some special goals

        We've been chewing snot for eight years
      2. +2
        20 November 2023 13: 09
        Quote: Million
        Apparently our authorities have some special goals.
        To the ten: the political leadership is playing for the long haul, but the military leadership has tasks in accordance
    2. +5
      20 November 2023 16: 23
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      Bridges and railway communications. They won't last a month without it.
      My friend, you think in the old fashioned way, as grandfather Lenin said: post office, telegraph, bridges... Communications must be destroyed, which is not at all easy to do. The 404th cannot be denied: a very decentralized communications system has been created that allows them to control troops and constantly update situational awareness, such a fashionable word. It is possible to destroy sources of information on the Internet, but communications must be put in the dark. Then they will definitely shudder in horror.
      And there are still more questions for the hacker community...?
      1. +3
        21 November 2023 00: 37
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        And there are still more questions for the hacker community...?



        By the way, the founder of the darknet was sentenced to five years in 2021 for creating crime
        inal community.
        Now part of the darknet will work for the benefit of the intelligence services of NATO countries.
    3. +5
      20 November 2023 21: 59
      Our generals don't know these things yet. They need to finish their studies. But they are ready to accept stars without restrictions.
    4. 0
      21 November 2023 18: 00
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      Communications!!! Communications must be cut! Bridges and railway communications. Without this, they won't last even a month. Hit bridges and locomotive depots. There is no point in sparing bridges; anyway, in the event of an attack, the Ukrainians will blow up EVERYTHING. So why are we giving them the opportunity to wage this war?

      Of course, it is necessary to destroy bridges, but that’s bad luck. If the Aerospace Forces destroy the bridges, first of all the railways, then on what roads will the Russian oligarchs take the people's goods to the West?
      1. -1
        23 November 2023 18: 22
        This generally answers all the questions of this special operation)
  3. +20
    20 November 2023 07: 04
    I have already written several times, in 21 they showed that there would be a war with Ukraine, we could win if we disrupt the railway connection and cut off the power supply. So all this has long been known, but it affects the selfish and financial interests of our oligarchy, so nothing special is being done. Ordinary people are dying for the interests of those in power, that is, the plutocracy in both states. Over the past month, two young guys in our family died near Zaporozhye, one from the Ukrainian side and one from our side, both Russians. This rotten thing is a civil war, it is precisely this that is now going on for the benefit of the world plutocracy.
    1. +5
      20 November 2023 08: 37
      I would like to add some information about the stations. All of them are based on standard Soviet designs, extracurricular stations have 2-3 control posts, if they are demolished, the capacity drops in steam times, the formation of trains practically stops. It will take weeks to recover. Hitting the necks of these same stations will add headaches. Almost everywhere with such stations there are PMS bases where all the repair equipment is located. There, special precision is not needed, just a lot of space and area. There are also distribution transformers and depots. It will be impossible to restore all this in modern realities; winter has already come. hi
      1. +4
        20 November 2023 14: 45
        And what if we start “nightmare” with Lancets on rolling draft trains? And not only in freight trains, but also in passenger trains. And if a purely military train arrives, then add long-range missiles to the “heap”.
    2. +5
      20 November 2023 10: 30
      Quote: 2112vda
      I have already written several times, in 21 they showed that there would be a war with Ukraine, we could win if we disrupt the railway connection and cut off the power supply. So all this has long been known, but it affects the selfish and financial interests of our oligarchy, so nothing special is being done. Ordinary people are dying for the interests of those in power, that is, the plutocracy in both states. Over the past month, two young guys in our family died near Zaporozhye, one from the Ukrainian side and one from our side, both Russians. This rotten thing is a civil war, it is precisely this that is now going on for the benefit of the world plutocracy.

      Thus, the selfish and financial interests of our oligarchy have already been violated by the very beginning of the Northern Military District.
      1. +2
        20 November 2023 14: 51
        Quote from Escariot
        Thus, the selfish and financial interests of our oligarchy have already been violated by the very beginning of the Northern Military District.

        The selfish and financial interests of our oligarchy were violated long before the SVO. Almost immediately after the Maidan of Dignity, the events in Donbass and the withdrawal of Crimea under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation.
  4. +4
    20 November 2023 07: 46
    The article is very correct. But the confused ones will answer you: “The General Staff knows better.” Or: “Putin has more information.” “If you’re so smart, run for president,” etc.
    The longer the North Military District goes on, the more articles there will be on how to end this war and defeat these fascists. Because a blind person can already see what mediocrity is running the army and the country!
    1. 0
      20 November 2023 09: 10
      Quote: steel maker
      But the confused ones will answer you: “The General Staff knows better.” Or: “Putin has more information.” “If you’re so smart, run for president,” etc.

      Ashonetak? Steelworker, are you a great strategist? Or do you have more information? Or maybe you won wars when Suvorov walked under the table?
      Quote: steel maker
      Because a blind person can already see what mediocrity is running the army and the country!

      For those in the house, we are not only at war with Ukraine. And this, quite possibly, is only the first round. So you, Steelmaker, should go and cook steel. And teach your wife how to cook borscht, not the General Staff. There would be more room commanders
      1. +12
        20 November 2023 09: 34
        . For those in the house, we are not only at war with Ukraine. And this, quite possibly, is only the first round.

        Can you tell me, according to your strategic logic, how long can we continue to fight “not only with Ukraine” and shout about it at every corner?
        A year, two, three...?
        Will we believe Solovyov and Simonyan that now all of NATO will run out of ammunition and money and that all of America and the dollar will be screwed?
        Maybe we can start fighting after all?
        1. -5
          20 November 2023 13: 07
          Quote from Sanktperburg1812
          Can you tell me, according to your strategic logic, how long can we continue to fight “not only with Ukraine” and shout about it at every corner?

          My friend, I am an instrumentation and automation engineer, not a strategist. I don’t teach generals how to fight, steelworkers how to cook steel, dentists how to drill teeth, or milkmaids how to milk cows. I mind my own business and don’t interfere with other people’s competencies, which is what I advise you to do.
          Regarding “not only Ukraine”. We know very well that Leopards, Challengers, Bradleys, Patriots, Nasams, Chimeras and other Storm Shadows are all products of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. They grow on trees in the Lviv region
          Quote from Sanktperburg1812
          A year, two, three...?

          Exactly as much as needed
          Quote from Sanktperburg1812
          Will we believe Solovyov and Simonyan that now all of NATO will run out of ammunition and money and that all of America and the dollar will be screwed?

          To believe/not to believe is a personal matter for everyone. If you prefer Lenya Periscope Gozman or Shenderovich with Galkin, the flag is in your hands and fair wind
          Quote from Sanktperburg1812
          Maybe we can start fighting after all?

          Well, if you give the go-ahead... Undoubtedly. Its time to begin
          1. +1
            20 November 2023 16: 07
            Quote: Winnie76
            My friend, I am an instrumentation and automation engineer, not a strategist. I don’t teach generals how to fight, steelworkers how to cook steel, dentists how to drill teeth, or milkmaids how to milk cows.

            But you throw your hats around a lot. Is this also in your specialty?
            1. 0
              20 November 2023 16: 28
              Quote: Zoer
              But you throw your hats around a lot. Is this also in your specialty?

              This is the argument. Hats for the studio. What is wrong?
              1. +4
                21 November 2023 09: 46
                Quote: Winnie76
                This is the argument. Hats for the studio. What is wrong?

                You know, when since 2014, for 8 years, Ukraine was shouting to the whole world that they were at war with all of Russia, I openly laughed at these not smart people. Although of course I knew about the military trade and vacationers. Now I laugh in the same way at the same people, but here, screaming about war with all of NATO. In general, there is no difference between panheads, what is here and what is there.
          2. +2
            20 November 2023 23: 30
            If you don’t set up the automation correctly and expensive equipment crashes because of this, after which your boss calls you on the carpet with a complaint, you will answer him too
            I don’t teach generals how to fight, steelworkers how to cook steel, dentists how to drill teeth, or milkmaids how to milk cows. I mind my own business and don’t interfere with other people’s competencies, which is what I advise you to do.
            ?
            Or, with your head down, will you go and correct your mistakes? What if you mess up again? And then again and again? I think the authorities will kick you in the ass after this.
            Leopards, Challengers, Bradleys, Patriots, Nasams, Chimeras and other StormShadows are all products of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. They grow on trees in the Lviv region

            They are produced in Western factories, under the military budgets allocated by the governments of Western countries, which have swelled since the start of the Northern Military District. Now they are rubbing their hands, hoping for a many-year feast, know, supply weapons, and let these kill each other longer.
    2. +3
      20 November 2023 17: 00
      everything that was read to us in schools and academies has been flushed down the toilet...
  5. +5
    20 November 2023 08: 41
    Even their destruction by the enemy using anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAMs) is unprofitable for the enemy from the point of view of the cost/effectiveness criterion - the cost of destroyed kamikaze UAVs is often significantly lower than the cost of the SAMs that destroy them.

    When calculating the effectiveness/cost criterion, it is also necessary to take into account the potential damage from ammunition that is not shot down and hits the target.
    1. +1
      21 November 2023 16: 09
      The author did not reach such heights.
  6. +12
    20 November 2023 08: 56
    Yeah, “Cut to hell, without waiting for peritonitis!” (c) Only everyone forgets that raw materials are exported by rail from Russia, by Russian oligarchs, to now unfriendly countries, from the same unfriendly countries, goods for various purposes are supplied, except In addition, products are exported from Ukraine and from Ukrainian enterprises owned by Russian oligarchs. And by the way, Ukrainian enterprises owned by Russian oligarchs are not subject to drone attacks. You need to look “wider and deeper.” laughing
    1. +5
      20 November 2023 15: 22
      Do Russian oligarchs export raw materials via Ukrainian railways? How interesting. Can you tell us by name - through which points from us do the oligarchs transport untold wealth through Ukraine? laughing As far as I know, all railway border crossings with Ukraine have not been operating for either export or transit for more than a year and a half. From the word absolutely. Or do we disperse the agenda? )))
      1. +3
        20 November 2023 20: 57
        CheeRock (Vladimir).

        You will be surprised. But goods can be exported and imported from Ukraine through other European countries.
        But you will be even more surprised at how Russian Railways earns during the SVO. Personally, I was very surprised and dumbfounded by the following information. (Maybe the filthy European bourgeoisie are just lying in order to slander our “white and fluffy” native Russian bourgeoisie.)


        Russia is central to a rail freight route that supplies Western arms manufacturers with metals needed to make microchips, electronics and ammunition used in modern weapons. Most of the so-called rare earth metals are mined in China. Russian Railways and other companies are transporting more and more of the critical metals needed by the European defense industry...
        In the first nine months of last year, the volume of Chinese rare earths transported by train through Russia rose to 36 tons, more than double the volume transported in all of 074. This is evidenced by European Union data reviewed by Bloomberg News reporters. Trade in rare earths rose by more than four-fifths to 2021 million euros ($377 million) in the nine months to September.

        "It's amazing that despite all the sanctions, this supply chain is still working," said Michael Wurmser, founder of Norge Mining. "It underscores the importance of rare earths and how dependent we are on them." https://newsland.com/post/7645039-evrope-nuzhny-zheleznodorozhnye-marshruty-rossii-i-vot-pochemu.

        Russian Railways and other companies are moving more and more critical metals needed by the European defense industry. ...https://inosmi.ru/20230122/zheleznaya-doroga-259938028.html
  7. BAI
    +1
    20 November 2023 09: 35
    Small arms, small-caliber automatic guns, MANPADS and ATGMs ensure destruction of kamikaze UAVs only at low altitudes

    That is why the attacks are carried out at night. I've already received a bunch of downvotes for this statement, you can throw it in again.
  8. +6
    20 November 2023 10: 05
    At the beginning of the year, they calculated the percentage of how much time was left before the destruction of the electrical infrastructure there, but because there was less news about the strikes and apparently there were no special problems with electricity there? And you can also remember the talk of various experts and bloggers about the fuel shortage in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which apparently also did not happen, either the factories are working, or the West supplies it quickly.
    1. +1
      20 November 2023 15: 23
      You can also remember Putin’s words that the Russian Federation does not fight with civilians and observes the laws and customs of war.
  9. +4
    20 November 2023 10: 19
    Ukraine's railway network is designed to transport tens of millions of tons of cargo per year, while the army and remaining civilian population consume an order of magnitude less. Accordingly, even if 10% of capacity remains, this will be enough to supply Ukraine. At the same time, the enemy will constantly restore infrastructure designed even for a nuclear war.
    1. 0
      20 November 2023 10: 46
      Do you know the condition of the tracks, locomotive fleet, cars for 2022? Believe me, you are very much mistaken. Without constant maintenance, the railway turns into rubbish. As an example, one country overseas.
      1. +3
        20 November 2023 13: 40
        Quote: prapor55
        Do you know the condition of the tracks, locomotive fleet, cars for 2022? Believe me, you are very much mistaken. Without constant maintenance, the railway turns into rubbish. As an example, one country overseas.

        The military has enough rubbish. Previously, millions of tons of coal passed along the tracks, but now the tracks are idle. A huge fleet of wagons is not needed. A couple of trains per day is quite enough for one direction.
  10. +9
    20 November 2023 11: 25
    The author raised the question of the “oddities” of this war. We do not fire at railway traction substations, we do not destroy the energy system, we do not hammer on bridges on the Dnieper.
    And why ?
    I don’t want to think about betrayal, but there are a lot of questions
    1. +5
      20 November 2023 14: 47
      Yes, it's obvious why. NATO apparently threatened behind the scenes that in this case they would supply Ukraine with thousands of long-range missiles. Flying to Moscow.
      1. +2
        20 November 2023 19: 02
        Alternatively, it is possible that they threatened... In order to inflict a thousand cuts you need a thousand knives. Geranium is disposable, which means you need at least a volley of a thousand Geraniums. and preferably one-time. But this thousand simply does not exist, a couple of dozen are used at most. So talk about choosing targets in the absence or lack of means of destruction is empty talk
    2. -5
      20 November 2023 15: 27
      Quote: APASUS
      The author raised the question of the “oddities” of this war. We do not fire at railway traction substations, we do not destroy the energy system, we do not hammer on bridges on the Dnieper.
      And why ?
      I don’t want to think about betrayal, but there are a lot of questions

      There is such a thing - the laws and customs of war. Putin spoke about this. The Russian Federation is striking at infrastructure related to the military and military-industrial complex (c). The Russian Federation is not at war with the civilian population, therefore, I will disappoint you - Ukraine will not be transformed into dead lands, as the Anglo-Saxons like to do.
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      2. +1
        22 November 2023 11: 00
        Quote: CheeRock
        You - the transformation of Ukraine into dead lands will not happen, as the Anglo-Saxons like to do.

        What does this have to do with dead lands? It is logical to destroy the bridges along the Dnieper, this will not be a disaster for the population, but for the supply of ammunition, equipment, and other equipment, it will be a real problem.
        I don’t see any problems for the population if the building of the Geshtab of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the SBU, the intelligence building is demolished in Kyiv...............
  11. +1
    20 November 2023 14: 18
    Death by a thousand cuts.

    In any action, the limiting factor is the price of the issue. Because the war is being waged within the state budget, minus social services, and with this money you need to buy everything, from uniforms to weapons. Therefore, when assessing the effectiveness of any action, it is necessary to compare not the price of the drone with the cost of the destroyed target, but the costs incurred in relation to achieving the goals of the war.
    From this point of view, it is more profitable to spend money on the destruction of the enemy’s equipment and personnel, as well as his production facilities working for the war. By destroying something that is easy to restore, you hold back the flow, but do not destroy its source, that is, you are trying to stop the river. She will bypass you anyway, this is throwing money away.
    1. 0
      20 November 2023 17: 52
      To destroy a railway bridge, you need a direct hit from a rocket into the upper load-bearing belt of the bridge truss, or hit the support of a power line, that is, a deviation of no more than 0.5 m is required... I don’t know if it would be easier to come up with a self-propelled mine (ideally based on a four-legged dog robot), which was dropped into the forest by parachute and there she is waiting for the moment to jump out or crawl out to a passing train.
  12. -2
    20 November 2023 19: 12
    The most important thing is to hit the railway tracks of Poland, Bulgaria and Romania, from where the maximum amount of weapons is now coming.
    Moreover, on the Polish border they say that now cargo military personnel are allowed through without stopping, all vehicles must be monitored, especially trucks
    You can also hit in front of railway bridges so that the road is washed out. Water will help. Blow up the slabs that protect the post
    You can also hit railway junctions, where different roads converge, break them up first
    When hunting for a train, you can hit the track at the beginning and at the end, and the train will become
    You can hit where the trains are turning, in the part where the turn is and the train will go downhill
  13. +1
    20 November 2023 20: 51
    Quote: Kmon
    Yes, it's obvious why. NATO apparently threatened behind the scenes that in this case they would supply Ukraine with thousands of long-range missiles. Flying to Moscow.
    This may not be entirely true, but events show that the expansion of the “range” of our attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure does indeed cause, albeit gradual, resistance...
  14. +1
    20 November 2023 21: 24
    Isn't it obvious?
    There is no task to win quickly and without losses...
    So there are too few losses from the shmurdyak, although here...
    The same “laws” are adopted everywhere.
    The world is being restructured - the forest is being cut down, the wood chips are flying
  15. 0
    21 November 2023 01: 01
    For one specific point (a railway section or a power transmission line support), the methodology described by the author certainly looks banal. But there are thousands of such points throughout Ukraine. Where can I get so many geraniums? However, maybe for a start it would be possible to implement this scheme at least in the regions bordering the LBS (there are only 4-5 of them). So that the echelons do not come directly to the front line.
    1. +1
      21 November 2023 15: 56
      A very rich country can afford to spend Geranium, and even more so Caliber, on supports and traction substations; Russia is not one of them. The electricity industry is structured quite simply. Energy from thermal power plants goes through a number of step-down substations (750-330-220-110-35 kVA) to the end consumer. Knock out any of the first three and electric locomotives will become. Of course, they will use backup connections, but the shooter must have a head so that they get their dose of Geraniums. This is not being done, or it is not possible, or for some other reason unknown to us.
      1. 0
        21 November 2023 20: 05
        With a UAV, you can throw trailing fibers (metal cables) onto power lines and mine them with Petals to stall repair work.
      2. +1
        23 November 2023 05: 22
        Because We are talking about voltage, then kV, i.e. kilovolt. But not kVA, kilovolt-ampere or kW, as the author says.
        1. 0
          23 November 2023 17: 05
          If we are talking only about voltage, then yes, kV. On the nameplates of transformers at the substation it is always kVA.
  16. +1
    21 November 2023 15: 48
    The real results of the attacks on the Ukrainian energy system last year showed that their effectiveness was low. Yes, it creates inconvenience for the population. But far from critical. It recovers quite quickly - the shocks stopped - and after a week all the power outages also stopped.
  17. +1
    21 November 2023 16: 02
    There would be a desire. The trouble is that we do not know the real interests of the Moscow Buratins, the degree of their participation in the UA economy. God forbid you offend anyone. This is not a war, but a Northern Military District. As they say, ask Abramovich.
  18. 0
    21 November 2023 16: 56
    In theory, everything is correct! Now it's time for practical application!!!
  19. 0
    21 November 2023 20: 48
    I’m probably an optimist, but the option is not necessarily to delay for the sake of the selfish interests of the oligarchs. The long game is not being played by Russia against Ukraine, but by China and Russia against NATO. The goal is to cause fatigue and disagreement in the Western camp, a loss of authority and to win more countries over to its side.
  20. -2
    21 November 2023 21: 30
    As an alternative, striking the railway tracks directly could be considered. It is believed that railway tracks damaged by an explosion can be restored as soon as possible, but conditions could potentially be created in which this would be difficult or even practically impossible.


    A drone with 5 kg of explosive material cannot cause any serious damage to the railway. etc. tracks, and even more so bridges, tunnels, traction substations, depots....
    To do this, you need to use adjustable aerial bombs from KAB - 250 to KAB - 1500, and then the infrastructure will not be dealt a “pin prick”, but a powerful “sledgehammer blow” after which the enemy will need to restore the facility within several weeks or months...
    1. 0
      22 November 2023 00: 40
      So the essence of the proposed methodology is precisely to make small injections, but regularly, including during repairs. Repairs will of course be possible, but they will be continuous. And as a result, trains (or electric current) will also be continuously absent. Cheap and cheerful...
    2. 0
      22 November 2023 10: 55
      The Ukrainian crater measuring 3 by 5 meters does not look like a pin prick. Bridges, they are different. Our bridge is being repaired, but how many problems do residents have from redirecting the flow of traffic to a detour? My wife could not cross the road for more than 10 minutes, there was a continuous flow of cars and this in a populated area! But that’s okay, the whole joke is in something else. All this transport also goes through a bridge, another one, but just as dead.. I think the situation is the same in Ukraine. These small but important bridges are the main goal of Geraniums. To restore, and even more so to make crossing the crossing is not a matter of one day... By the way, the UAV of the Ukrainian Armed Forces fell not far from the bridge, perhaps it was the target.
  21. +1
    21 November 2023 21: 35
    Almost the entire energy system of Ukraine belongs to Jews, some in Russia, some in America, some in Israel. And these guys have something to say to the guys in the Kremlin and on Frunzenskaya Embankment. Therefore, they shoot at energy systems very rarely, and very, very selectively
  22. +1
    22 November 2023 17: 53
    The article is good, but the capabilities of the Russian Federation are not very good. This is not the Soviet Union, but the capitalist Russian Federation, where hucksters rule the roost. To fight, you need to have a goal, to imagine what will happen after the war. Can any of the writers voice the goal and what will happen after the war in Ukraine? Maybe someone knows the number and name of the Russian document on the basis of which the SVO is based? You can aimlessly strike a million blows, that's just why.
  23. +1
    24 November 2023 04: 39
    Now I need to give this to the reindeer herder to read!
  24. 0
    25 November 2023 05: 57
    The main question is not this at all, but why the notorious denazification and demilitarization in the very first hours of this amazing North Military District did not begin with the elimination of the leadership of these neo-Nazis and their General Staff? And why, during 19 months of war, did our leadership not even try to cut off the heads of this hydra? And all these bridges, substations, data centers, tunnels, traction stations, oil refineries and other critical infrastructure units have already set their teeth on edge.
    The main thing is that everything is going according to plan for the Guarantor and his faithful squires, and the people all over the world are collecting literally everything for the fighters, from underpants with socks to high-precision rifles, Mavics and other SUVs.

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