At the end of this week in the GLITS them. V.P. Chkalov will receive the first 6 of the latest Su-35С serial fighters

At the end of the week at the airport of the State Flight Test Center. V.P. Chkalov (GLITs) in Akhtubinsk will arrive the first serial Su-35S fighters. Now the engineers of the technical staff of the GLIC have begun the scheduled inspection and acceptance of the 6 latest Su-35S multi-functional fighters at Komsomolsk-on-Amur OJSC aviation Production Association Yu.A. Gagarin. "

On the basis of the GLITs, ground and flight tests will be conducted to verify the operation of the information control system, communications complex, navigation, fighter radar system, as well as weapons systems at the center’s test site. Later, GLITS specialists will develop methods for their combat use. Then the tested cars will be transferred to the State Center for Aviation Personnel Training and Military Tests of the Russian Ministry of Defense (Lipetsk).

Su-35S should be the main fighter of the Air Force of Russia. Before 2020, it is planned to purchase about 90 of these newest machines.

Su-35C is a deeply modernized super-maneuverable, multifunctional generation fighter "4 ++". It uses the technology of the fifth generation, providing superiority over fighters of a similar class.

The aircraft has a reinforced airframe, is equipped with new engines with thrust vector control, is capable of developing supersonic speed without the use of afterburner, it has the newest weapon system, 12-i suspension points. Combat load increased to 8 t. Thanks to the use of modern materials, the aircraft visibility is significantly reduced.

Comments

[esaul]

Funny this news echoes the news about the problems of F-35. Is not it, colleagues?

[Lord of the Sith]

That yes pleased the news

[alexng]

Handsome of all created on the basis of su-27, this option with the 35 index is the most beautiful. News +

[zanoza]

[Nastyusha]

The only thing he does not have is stealth.

And so - a great car. I hope everything will be in gray.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

no - stealth

Tsipa, but he needs him, stealth something? He just flies, though ... maybe he hid it ?!

[Nastyusha]

Of course. The F-35 and F-22 stealth is. He has been on F-22 and B-2 for twenty years.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

He has been on F-22 and B-2 for twenty years

And it seems to me ... he just does not carry it with him. How about this ...

[Nastyusha]

I'm sorry, what? I did not get that.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

I'm sorry, what? I did not get that.

Well, I'm talking about stealth, but what about you thinking?

[Nastyusha]

Originally.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

Originally.

Tsipa, so I am from the bottom of my heart, as if in spirit, by golly, these are the cross!

[Nastyusha]

Bazaar zero. Have you invented stealth on a new physical principle? Call Kuzhegetovich, he can send you to the secret KB.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

Call Kuzhegetovich, he can secret you KB

Kid, I have these secrets with business trips ... and the new minister is clearly not up to ... them, "... better ... beer!"

[Tjumenec72]

Serge competently watched) you need to work in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs)))

[Sergh]

Quote: Tjumenec72

competently watched) you need to work in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs)))

Yes, it seems a little too far, Tsipa escaped.

[Nastyusha]

What do you want, bunny? I'm here.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

a bunny? I'm here

Well, you’re reactive, I’m already looking at the Tigers. And I’m mine again, right?

[Nastyusha]

Of course.

[Gray-haired]

She is not Tsip, she is Tsil. And the flag is not the same, with the star of David should be.

[Sergh]

Quote: Gray

She is not Tsipa

Get out of the way, I'm on a tank and see poorly.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

Of course.

Baby, let's be careful, right now, winter, ice. What then should I do with you, just ride a boat?

[Nastyusha]

But after all, the last time you flew into a snowdrift. By the way, why aren't you sleeping? It’s night in Novosib. Night shift or what?

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

But last time, it was you who flew into a snowdrift ... A night shift or something

Well, about the snowdrift, it's all slander, you messed it up, shit. And the Change I have is only one-day, but Freestuff-II. The main thing is to crawl up to 10, and there it was lost right away for everyone.

[Nastyusha]

Hm. Why aren’t you sleeping? Or aren’t you working tomorrow?

[Sergh]

I’ve got stuck in it, I want and I don’t sleep, it’s such an owl in life.

[Sergh]

Although tomorrow there will be a little plow, people need to reprogram the alarm in the store, well, along the way, cut down the money from them.

[webdog]

Lord Sith, the article is not interesting.
just stupid statement of fact ...
and where is the article?
the only good thing is the photograph of the Lord of the Sith.
awesome foreshortening!
thank you.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: esaul

Funny this news echoes the news about the problems of F-35. Is not it, colleagues?

Yes, it echoes, but you know what alerted: Turkey was going to buy 100 F-35s, and our 90 Su-35Ss until 2020. Well, more of these birds

[Wedmak]

Turkey has postponed the purchase of the first 2's F-35. Ostensibly, characteristics are not satisfied.

[patsantre]

This is only one Turkey 100 ... ((

[Tjumenec72]

We still have to see this - how many of them will be ordered by the minions of Shauron)))
The very darkest saby should order them for the pristiny ...

[Papakiko]

I was more worried about this:
Su-35S should be the main fighter of the Air Force of Russia. Before 2020, it is planned to purchase about 90 of these newest machines.
It follows that the PAK FA will either be in the amount of 1,2 and miscalculated or we will not see them. ("Labs" don't count)

[Tjumenec72]

LEAVE THE PANIC!
- Fulfill one order, issue another ...

[erased]

90 aircraft is not enough for the main aircraft of the Air Force. And after 2020, this car will become somewhat old.

[Zhenya]

By the way, I agree, 90 cars is not enough if it is going to be done exactly by the main one. I hope the MO will buy the same amount again, because from time to time news comes up about additional contracts for aviation.

[Nastyusha]

Yah. 90 this will be enough. Add fifty Su-30, fifty SM-ok and hundreds and a half Su-34 here and it will be very good. We do not take into account the mythical PAK Fu, because little is known.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

and hundreds and a half Su-34 and it will be very good

But I doubt everything, but is she Nastyukha, who does she impersonate?

[Nastyusha]

What is a bunny?

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

What

Yes, it feels like you wrote a thesis on aerodynamics, you know everything!

[Tjumenec72]

She wrote in economics - everything adds up)

[Alex 241]

You apparently got into the wrong hunting grounds!

[avt]

Nastya ______ So perhaps you can’t add up. Here rather a line is traced. The SU-35 is a fighter, the SU-30 is a fighter-bomber, the counterparts have a strike needle analogous to Amers, well, and the SU-15 is a bomber-carrier of tactical nuclear weapons, if not, let the SSI correct.

[OSTAP BENDER]

Quote: Nastya

Yah. 90 this will be enough. Add fifty Su-30, fifty SM-ok and hundreds and a half Su-34 here and it will be very good. We do not take into account the mythical PAK Fu, because little is known.

Yes, this is a professor! A century of will not to see!

[YARY]

Erased 90 aircraft is not enough for the main aircraft of the Air Force
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II It is supposed to put 1763 aircraft for the U.S. Air Force, which will replace the F-16 and A-10, 480 for the U.S. Navy (will replace the F / A-18B / C and A-6), 480 - for the U.S. Marine Corps (will replace the F / A-18B / C and AV-8B)

These are the true pace of rearmament! And not window dressing like ours!

[Wedmak]

These are the true pace of rearmament! And not window dressing like ours!

Let them put it first, and then we will talk. With the problems of this aircraft, they will not cut headstock for a single year. And how much they will actually deliver and how much they will really fly ....

[Lord of the Sith]

YARY,
Oh, calm down, what a show? They make as much as the industry can afford!

In the USA there was no collapse in the year 91, and then there was no general plunder in the 90s.
After 45 years, our country was destroyed by the war and was restored. After the restoration of enterprises, the pace of aircraft production was the best in the world. But factories were scattered throughout the Union. After the collapse of 91, everything had to be restored in Russia.
It’s like a multi-room apartment - where there is a kitchen, a bedroom and a hall, a nursery, an entrance hall and a bathtub. And after the 91st year, it was necessary to make a bath and a kitchen in each room and drill windows and doors in the walls separately. I exaggerate but I think you are a competent person and understand me.

It is impossible to compare the United States of America with Russia, in which either the revolution, the civil war, the domestic war, then the minor wars in the republics, then the collapse of the country, then the EBN rule.

Understand that the construction of ships and aircraft developed in the USA, and over the past century there have been no revolutions and wars on their territory. In our country, every 20-30 years of the war of annihilation and revolution is worse in destruction than war.

[YARY]

Uv Denis and you are Sith.
How long did it take for the country to revive STALINGRAD from scratch?
To rebuild a destroyed farm?
Create your own nuclear weapons?
Reach the "pre-war" pace of development?
NOT A N D A T A L E T !!
And why? Yes, because there were no traitors! Shooting he is so-cleaning.
And hundreds of tanks and nuclear submarines - one per week. (W)!
Because everything is for the country and not for itself and a bank account!
Not for sale, but for protection!
What would not have been from the "foreign" curves, but they are not complete idiots and can fight at the technical level (read Tupolev).
SO THAT 90 CARS FOR 7 !!!!! YEARS !!!!! - IT IS EVEN NOT MIXED !!

[YARY]

"Can I change something at the conservatory?"

[Nastyusha]

You obviously live by stereotypes.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

You obviously live by stereotypes.

Right! Treat him, treat him, otherwise he bends this here, once he even wanted to call an ambulance.

[Lord of the Sith]

SW YARY again you are comparing the Union and Russia modern. Then the whole union worked in three shifts, all 15 republics restored the country after a difficult war, the same situation with nuclear weapons.
And now you will go in three shifts to work for money, but for the idea ??? You can not answer me answer. Are you ready to go to Siberia and work in the KB 18 hours a day for food, salaries in closed towns were symbolic.

Yes, horseradish bald you refuse Internet, plasma with 80 channels, movie theaters with 3D and trips to the pizzeria for beer.

Then there was a huge country and rebuilt the whole world after the war.

Hundreds of tanks were made by Russia, or all the same, the whole union - allied enterprises? the same Kharkov plant or Minsk.

Today's Russia can only be compared with Russia of the 90s within its borders, and even that was incorrect since in the 90s Russia there were still a lot of enterprises from the Union and there were a lot of scientists and other specialties. Now what? In the 90s, 12 million were left mainly of the brains and valuable working hands of specialists.

[Botanologist]

And why? Yes, because there were no traitors

No, Ardent, it’s not only the traitors who have the problem.
There was a state ideology, there was a goal, there were prospects, there was a corresponding order and laws.

And now there is no ideology, no purpose, laws ... (I don’t even want to comment).
So do not simplify, if it would be so easy, traitors would have been disposed of long ago. But even this does not guarantee the buildup of military development to the level of the USSR. Too much lost.
And do you need nuclear submarines once a week? The fleet of the former USSR quietly decayed at the berths, because it was really huge - still want to add?

[Lord of the Sith]

I agree completely. How many of those present here would work at a factory with a salary of 3000 UAH = 12000 rubles for the development of the S-500?

I worked at the factory for 2 years where "Kolchuga" is manufactured. They paid once every 9 months. At the same closed enterprise, he made electronics for Russian satellites and helicopters. I’m there now called the master of the shop for a salary of 8000 UAH = 24000 rubles.
Worked 93-95 years.

[phantom359]

Sith Lord,
So go, what's the problem? I quit flying in the 90s, I had to earn money, now I'm sorry.

[YARY]

Sergey teaches the young lady, the rest are in a fog.
While there is no goal, there is no ideology, this time!
So far, any temporary worker, such as a president, can be leaked after serving time with a bag of dough for the cordon, there will be no order.
While everyone is nodding to the fact that - "Then there was a union!" and all the crap is justified by reducing the territory - nothing will happen at all, that's three!
Dope aircraft plants in RUSSIA? How much was under the USSR? Here you have all the math! But in the USSR there was a GOAL, and leaders after the current service in the Kremlin wall could leave! Or a link like Khrushchev! And not in Hawaii! And the children of their current at Moscow State University could study and not at Harvard and Stanford!
And therefore, his own shirt was really his own and the sky above his head was one for all, and it was vital to protect him, the children of the leaders, because only under him they could walk!
Ideology! The ideology is simple! The one who with RUSSIA for the whole life and life of his descendants does not mow down for reasons but is looking for ways! ANY!
90 airplanes in 7 years, what’s this nonsense? 13 a year? !! IN RUSSIA? In the largest and richest country in the world? !!
If this were an enterprise, some management would have been fired with a "wolf ticket" under the article of incompetence!

[Nastyusha]

But there was no sausage

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

But there was no sausage

For some reason, 3.62 and BelomorKanal.

[YARY]

I eat his copper, I’ve roasted sausage myself! And the farm fed me! and if she’s blaming her pig, she’s also a well-fed pig and doesn’t think of an acre hawka! But not for long ....
And then they made sausage from it!
Are you a mechanism for absorbing bugs, or a person?

[Botanologist]

An ardent, anecdote on the topic:
two camels are walking in the desert. A month goes by, two go, three go. One turns to another and says: "No matter what they say about us, but I still want to drink."

Let's take it easy, do not oppose the eater and the army. Everything should be in the right amount.

[wax]

Nastyusha

Yes there was a sausage, and even better. Now you can’t eat cervelat, which is being shoved there: prettier, I do not argue, but I'd rather buy a Soviet one for 2.20 instead of 20 types of modern doctoral, and not one of them falls short of the Soviet doctoral.
Per capita consumption, by the way, look. And the cost of living with a set of products compare. The slogan of the perestroika will be memorized and for almost three decades now, like parrots, they have been repeating. Keep your vocabulary up to date with new realities.

[916-th]

Lord Sith: Come on, calm down, what a show? They produce as much as the industry can afford!

Vladyka, the heavy legacy of collapse certainly makes itself felt. Then, all the more incomprehensible (at least for me) is the stated proportion of the financial costs of armaments until 2020:
- The state arms program - more than 19 trillion.
- defense industry development program - 3 trillion.
I will not tire of repeating that here the cart (GPV) is placed in front of the horse (FTP FIC).

No, of course, I understand the theoretical idea that the money allocated for the purchase of weapons should ultimately fall into the defense industry. But the big question is when and in what quantity?

Here are the "streams" along which an astronomical amount can flow past the tasks of technical re-equipment and increasing the capacity of defense enterprises:
- the purchase of foreign weapons;
- Settlement of money on the accounts of managing structures and companies;
- costs of defense enterprises under other items of expenditure not related to the development of production;
- corruption schemes of theft, cuts and kickbacks.

IMHO, 3 trillion. targeted for the development of the defense industry, is clearly not enough with 19 trillion allocated for the purchase of weapons.

[Lord of the Sith]

I put you a plus.
The financing program was developed including by Kudrin (an opponent of allocating money for the defense industry) and Serdyukov.
I do not know, I hope now they will begin to change the flows of allocated money.

[YARY]

Sith
You write that now is not "then" and give arguments that do not agree at all with-

The financing program was developed including by Kudrin (an opponent of allocating money for the defense industry) and Serdyukov.

So it’s not a matter of reducing the territory? Not for the reasons that answer me?
So everything is in the manual?
Then do not oppose me nodding to "then" -If a thief goes for interrogation from the mansion in a Mercedes and spits on the snooper, if the thief sits not in Butyrki, but in thirteen-room mansions, if the thief is not at the wall, then you will receive a salary you voiced and he will have bank accounts!
And the fact that all the "leaders" in those banks have the funds that were stolen from the country - for new plants, new factories, new planes!

[igor12]

I agree that it’s not enough for a huge country, but I’m glad that the modernization of the RA is still going on.

[rpek32]

Su-35S - deeply modernized, highly maneuverable, multifunctional 4 ++ generation fighter

The main thing is that they do not forget to timely upgrade.

Su-35S should be the main fighter of the Air Force of Russia. Before 2020, it is planned to purchase about 90 of these newest machines.
and t-xnumx how so?

[morpex]

Su-35S should be the main fighter of the Air Force of Russia. Before 2020, it is planned to purchase about 90 of these newest machines.
and t-xnumx like

Well, one does not interfere with the other ... And the tasks of these machines seem to me different

[patsantre]

Quote: morpex

Well, one does not interfere with the other ... And the tasks of these machines seem to me different

They have exactly the same tasks. How do you think they are so different?

[esaul]

Quote: rpek32

and t-xnumx how so?

Greetings Vladimir Remember the blitz joke - "But her darling and we will eat ...!"
And here he is darling (T-50) and will come to support and replace Sushki - 35

[patsantre]

Quote: esaul

And here he is darling (T-50) and will come to support and replace Sushki - 35

Not at all. First, it will replace the Su-27, then maybe the MiG-31 and even part of the MiG-29, and when the time comes to shoot the Su-35, the PAK FA will already be an aging aircraft, and by this time it will most likely already be the 6th generation. 27 drying should be completely replaced (300 pieces), if the MiG-31 is lucky, then another time will come for another aircraft. Industry and the economy are unlikely to pull back faster.

[iSpoiler]

Mig 31, he certainly will not replace ... !!!!!!!!!
You do not confuse the interceptor with a fighter .... the tasks are different .. !!!!!!!!
Mig 31 that su-27 that su-35 ubabuhivaet .... at the same time pieces 4 .... and at such distances and at such a height that the target simply will not notice it ...
It is possible that the T-50 (I doubt that it will see at large distances)
When it was created there was a simple goal - the ability to catch up and destroy ANY airplane or missile at Any height (well, almost any height))) ... consider that it is just a manned reusable missile with wings and long-range weapons (about 300 km !!!!! )
Mig 29 and the family of dryers have different tasks ..
The 29th combat radius is small, so its task is more to protect, but it is cheap, and it can be stamped in batches + quite a lot of maneuverability ....

PS In a flash31 - I already threw this video, but it’s worth looking again ...

[patsantre]

The T-50 has all the same capabilities as the MiG-31, cruising supersonic, powerful radar, and a bunch of new ones, such as stealth, a completely new avionics.
How does the MiG-31 make you think of the Su-35, if the Su-35 has a more powerful radar, it can also take long-range missiles, and now more modern models are appearing for the Su-35 and PAK FA. And how, excuse me, the MiG-31 will it take out the Su-35 or PAK FA? I knowingly said about replacing the PAK FAMI MiGs 31, because the PAK FA has all the same capabilities, even exaggerated, and a lot of new ones. It will be able to complete the interceptor tasks. please clarify.

[Gemar]

Quote: rpek32

and t-xnumx how so?

The T-50 will fight against 5th generation aircraft. And against the BTA and 4th generation aircraft, the capabilities of PAK-FA will be redundant.
Plus, transfer you from Toyota Corolla to Lamborghini Aventator, you too will not immediately be able to reveal the full potential of the latter (even if the Corolla is box-shaped ).
Plus, technically (not mentally) obsolete equipment is urgently needed.
Oh yes ... It’s also a great advertisement for potential buyers. I think that even when PAK-FA goes into production, the Su-35 assembly line will still be used for 20 years.
Consequently, the Su-35S is a shot that can kill 4 birds with one stone.

[patsantre]

Quote: Gamar

The T-50 will fight against 5th generation aircraft. And against the BTA and 4th generation aircraft, the capabilities of PAK-FA will be redundant.

I categorically disagree. First, where did the 4+ and ++ airplanes share, which will be the main potential adversaries in the near future, which most developed countries are moving to now? If we assume that the Su-35 can handle them, then the T-50 I would have managed with less losses. And it’s not so much more difficult and more expensive to operate than the Su-35 in order to choose the Su-35 as a cheaper one in such a situation.

[Gemar]

Quote: patsantre

And it’s not so much more complicated and expensive to operate than the Su-35

Why such confidence?

Quote: patsantre

If we assume that the Su-35 will cope with them, then the T-50 would cope with less losses.

And an anti-aircraft missile generally helps to do without losses ... so what? Let's leave some anti-aircraft missiles !?
In general, by the time the T-50 enters the army en masse, the F-35 will be brought to mind. But against the F-35 and F-22, this will be the main weapon. And against 4+ and 4 ++, we have our own 4 ++ (with technologies of the 5th generation). And then, if you throw all the T-4s against 4+ and 50 ++, then who will fight the F-35 and F-22.
Moreover, the Chinese with their "not stolen" technologies are stepping on our heels.
I forgot to add that the Su-35S will still fight with drones.

[Botanologist]

We would have them pieces 350 - 400. Another pieces 200 su-34, pieces 100 t-50, pieces 250 farthest of all stripes.
So, dreams, of course. They promised a total of 600 aircraft to 2020 - and that's what we consider, including the Yak-130, Tu-204, etc. So it goes - 120 su-34 and 100 su-35. If only they brought to 200 su-35, everything will be easier to breathe.

[Nastyusha]

How many!? This is a clear oversupply.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

This is a clear oversupply.

Tsipa, and there were not enough pills from greed, but the soul requires continuation.

[Botanologist]

This is a clear oversupply.

What are the criteria? How much will we deliver to Kaliningrad? To the Far East, Alaska (and there, by the way, the Raptors fly, and 48 miles to the coast from us). The whole North, although there is a bit of MiG-31 and flies, but this is only to indicate the presence.
So break it into districts (without forgetting about your beloved Caucasus and the coast in general), and you get what you need.
And 200 fighters - why is this an oversupply? How will you concentrate resources, if Japan needs to show that you should not twitch, and the Caucasus will begin to have fun. Or there is Asia. How many fighters do you need against Japan, tell me your number? Not forgetting that the USA is an ally there.

[iSpoiler]

I also don’t agree, because our country is not only big, huge ...
We only know the defense needs horseradish knows how much is needed, I'm already silent about offensive actions ....
Well, Georgia dealt with its practically non-existent army (honestly, I see no particular reason for pride) ..
But against the same Japan, in addition to ballistic missiles, we have nothing to oppose.
I am silent about China - with its 3 million People's Liberation Army of China ..
If there were no deterrence weapon, we would tear a rag like an ace (you’ll excuse my comrades for negativity, I’m a patriot of my country, but she’s really a womb)
IMHO .... however, as usual)

PS Minus I did not slam you) honestly)

[Lord of the Sith]

Just like in the USA, the F-22 and F-35 do not interfere with one another.

[avt]

ctr ------ 90 aircraft - this is not enough for the main aircraft of the Air Force. And after 2020, this machine will become somewhat old ---------- It's okay, the continuation coming from the SU-27, it seems to me - replenishment of the natural loss of aircraft based on the excellently proven platform, at the time of the adoption of the new generation in the face of brought to mind the T-50.

[воронов]

Yes, really handsome !!!

[123dv]

I don’t know how this works, but I often find myself thinking that I would look at such a bird like that and look .....

[omsbon]

How pleasant is the news, is it not?

[123dv]

We would still stand the night, but hold out the day! ....

[esaul]

Quote: 123dv

We should still stand the night, hold out the day

So we are dragging on time, we are talking about peace settlements with the stripes ... The time has not yet come for Russia to listen to the voice with due respect. Come - believe me!

[123dv]

We would have to stretch until the fall, and the war this time will not happen.
Will be automatically delayed until the mid-twenties .......

[stranik]

Finally, I was pleased, I was given +5 for such a plane.

[Apollo]

what Su 35C is capable of

[bremest]

And I saw how this beautiful car flies. You don’t believe your eyes. I hope that he will have a corresponding new missile weapons.

[Genrichra]

90 pcs. SU-35s is certainly not enough, but by the year 20 I think other promising models should be put into operation, the same T-50 will be farther away and others will be. Progress on the spot is not worth it all the more money for it now do not spare.

[Mikhado]

Genrichra,
Now the cost of aviation is such that even amers groan and fart. Moreover, our so far fainting economy.
Back in the 90s I read - 1 kg of fighter = 1 kg of gold.
Times of thousands of series remained in the "piston" forties.

[djon3volta]

GenrichRa, you probably love this clip, I knew it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_oUid4RUMw

[Byordovvv1]

Obviously the defense industry rose from its knees.

[djon3volta]

interesting, whose country’s patriots are you being minus? ... well, it’s clearly not Russian patriots, but if a Russian minus slapped your text, then 100 pounds a swamp hamster

[xopek b kacke]

The news is definitely good. BUT why post it 4 times something ??? To give the impression that we already have 24 aircraft? This is very angry

[djon3volta]

yesterday on the "star" I watched a program about IL-2, during the Second World War in mid-1942 per day the defense industry produced 30 IL-2 aircraft PER DAY..but it was a different situation, and having nothing to do with today.

[bistrov.]

Isn't it true that the SU-35 resembles the Gorynych snake, and the same "tail" with a sharp tip!

[bistrov.]

Well, why immediately minus? I may, on the contrary, said "compliment"!

[Alyans]

Who knows why the "Berkut" was not brought to mind in Sukhoi? Also a good car for naval aviation. If memory serves, the deck is. I think the pilots of the VMA and she would be incredibly happy.

[Nastyusha]

Dear. Unnecessary. The whole wing, composite besides, from the 5th, it seems, attempts were cast. All marriage. What is there to talk about? Not created at the time. Well, he’s huge for the deck, which is not at all suitable for TAKRs, and we don’t have normal aircraft carriers. Dead end.

[Sergh]

Quote: Nastya

not suitable for TAKRs, but we have no normal aircraft carriers

Well, look, she seemed to be only from the deck, she covered all the tops from top to bottom, she knows everything!

[Alan]

Quote: Sergh

Well, look, she seemed to be only from the deck, she covered all the tops from top to bottom, she knows everything!

Dear, oh, and you breathe unevenly towards Nastya for every "comment" she has, does your wife know your question?

[Sergh]

Quote: Alan

oh and you breathe unevenly towards Nastya for each of her "comments"

Yes, my doubts sneak in, some small details slip through her, which I do not even know about. That's how a girl (woman) can know that a wing cast has been cast from the fifth time? I would immediately believe if from Komsomolsk-on-Amur, and then from Belarus. Some terms and statements are straight into the stream. Cunningly. Although ..., figs knows these girls, something I have recently become incredulous.
By the way, who so zaminusova so quickly, already 750 eyes flew away, obviously got into the personal account and went through all the comments, because of the bull?

[evil hamster]

Here the key phrase is not "from the fifth time" a "cast"I take off my hat to the lady I only from an attempt to present this process, the template

[Mikhado]

The main trouble of the all-composite wing of the reverse sweep is no combat survivability - one hole - and all under replacement. In the end, everything that they wanted to achieve by super-maneuverability was provided on the T-50 with less radical aerodynamics, plus engines with UVT.

[916-th]

Su-47 "Berkut" is primarily a demonstrator, a flying laboratory - composite materials, aerodynamic design, layout.

[rumpeljschtizhen]

Yes, the news from the category is 4 days left .... 3 days ... before delivery, as many as 6 aircraft

[Chukcha]

Awesome coloring. At first I didn’t even understand what it was ..., on the background of the earth it’s just perfect!
And not a few 90 cars?

[kohah]

Well, it’s unnecessary to dramatize everything like that :)
any progress is better than stagnation and degradation

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Russia will test a hypersonic rocket in 2013

Posted on Mon, 14/01/2013 - 13:06 Countries: Russia

The Russian Ministry of Defense has determined the timing of the first full-fledged test launches of a promising hypersonic missile capable of speeds up to five Mach numbers (about 5,8 thousand kilometers per hour). As the newspaper "Izvestia" writes, tests are scheduled for July-August 2013; they will be produced at the Akhtubinsk test site in the Astrakhan region.

The project of creating a hypersonic missile is classified, so neither its code, tasks, nor tactical and technical characteristics are known. The first missile tests took place at the Akhtubinsk training ground in 2012, but they cannot be called full-fledged. During inspections, the rocket detached from the aircraft suspension, started its own engine, flew several kilometers at subsonic speed and landed.

The purpose of the preliminary throw tests was to verify the controllability of the rocket in flight and its interaction with the launch system and onboard equipment of the carrier aircraft. In the course of new tests, launch parameters will be expanded: the rocket will perform longer flights already at hypersonic speed, and the ammunition engine will operate in several modes.

The development of hypersonic missiles has been actively carried out in the USSR since the 1970s, but in the 1990s it practically disappeared. In particular, NPO Mashinostroyenia created the Meteorite rocket, and later began work on an apparatus with the code 4202. MKB "Raduga" in the 1980s began the project GELA X-90. In the 1970s, on the basis of the S-200 missile, the Kholod rocket was created, which was able to reach a speed of six thousand kilometers per hour.

At present, NPO Mashinostroyenia is participating in the joint development of the BrahMos hypersonic cruise missiles with India, capable of speeds up to five Mach numbers. In addition, the Tactical Missile Armament Corporation is developing a missile capable of speeds 12-13 times the speed of sound.

In September last year, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin announced that it was planned to create a "super holding" in the country that would develop hypersonic technologies. The holding is expected to include the TRV Corporation and NPO Mashinostroyenia.

[Botanologist]

promising hypersonic rockets capable of speed up to five mach numbers

Already somehow argued about that. Aren't you embarrassed that the hypersound from 5 max is just beginning?
That's what I was afraid of - they showed Rogozin "Cold", now they will start to cut the loot ....

the ammunition engine will work in several modes

In one, cruising would work on 5 max - you can give orders. Unless, of course, the engine scramjet. But something here I have great doubts.

[wax]

It’s better to say less and do more than the opposite. Microelectronics must be moved with all its might. Whoever more quickly and further detects and accompanies the target against interference, he will win, in spite of any Machs. It should be like this: saw, shot, forgot.

[boris.radevitch]

Good news, let the planes arrive and more!

[avreli]

As soon as the discussion has acquired a fair amount of variety, perhaps experts will speak out on the coloring of the aircraft.
The opinion of the chiefs of the Belarusian Air Force is also interesting, since the operating conditions are similar.
For example, I prefer devices painted in gray in different shades and without broken stains and lines.

And “the coloring scheme of aircraft, in the camouflage of which the colors characteristic of the place of basing of air connections” will be used ”seems somewhat contrived. Planes in the bushes are going to hide or something ...

[Alex 241]

On this topic, see the branches on these aircraft, everything is described in detail!

[avreli]

Well, if with an exclamation mark ... and advice - to the post above.
Only the question was not about T and MIG, but about the coloring of aircraft in general.
In addition, a young lady (not a young lady - it is possible, after all, that a specialist has fun in this way ) "Cuts" in aviation as it is inaccessible to many collectors of fake stars, I wanted to know such a competent opinion.
But if you know a meaningful answer, I will be grateful for the link.

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Quote: Vladimirets

Turkey was going to buy 100 F-35s, and our 90 Su-35Ss until 2020. Well, more of these birds

Our Drying of five of their F35 costs. moreover, an airplane without a good pilot costs nothing.