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Research RAS: Does the North Caucasus want to be part of Russia?

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Research RAS: Does the North Caucasus want to be part of Russia?A remarkable study was conducted by the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Employees of the institute headed by Igor Kosikov prepared a collective monograph, materials for which were collected in all without exception of the North Caucasus regions of Russia. This monograph is a real scientific work, which covers most of the fields of activity of the peoples inhabiting the Russian North Caucasus. The regional economic component, as well as the geopolitical views of the residents of seven constituent entities of the North Caucasus Federal District, were not ignored. Recall that the district itself is composed of the Stavropol Territory, the Chechen, Ingush, Kabardino-Balkarian, Karachay-Circassian Republics, Dagestan and North Ossetia-Alania. The center of the district is the multinational Pyatigorsk.


Employees of the Institute engaged in the study of public opinion in the territory of the North Caucasus Federal District. At the same time, the employees of the research center themselves declare a completely independent study, which was carried out in order to identify public sentiment in the land of the North Caucasus. The last study of this level on the territory of our country was conducted over 20 years ago, and therefore the release of the monograph itself can be considered a great event that sheds light on trends in one of the most densely populated regions of the Russian Federation.

One of the areas of large research was associated with the question of what public sentiment prevails in the studied region. More than a couple of decades have passed since the collapse of the USSR, and during this time, the very concept of the “North Caucasus” has become associated among many Russians with a certain territorial, civilizational, political and economic isolation. Scientists from the Russian Academy of Sciences decided to collect information about how the residents of the subjects of the North Caucasus Federal District see their future. After all, many Russians had a stereotype that the residents of the Caucasian republics after the bloody military conflicts in Chechnya and Dagestan, ceased to feel like Russians and lost the bond that for decades held together the peoples of Russia.
Research by Dr. Kosikov and his associates suggests that the people of the North Caucasus not only do not want to distance themselves from the rest of Russia, but also want the integration of the North Caucasus Federal District and the rest of the Russian regions to be more active. After reading this kind of information, many of our readers can say: they wouldn’t even want to integrate, because donations from the federal center are widely distributed to many republics of the North Caucasus, and other regions of Russia have serious difficulties trying to solicit additional funds from Moscow to solve their top priorities problems.

However, Igor Kosikov and his colleagues, obviously, when creating their collective monograph, understood that such claims could manifest themselves, and therefore provide a series of economic materials, according to which subsidies from the federal budget to the same Ingushetia per capita for 2010 a year were only one-fifth from subsidies to Kamchatka. For Ingushetia - 12,9 thousand rubles per person, for the Kamchatka region - more than 65 thousand rubles per inhabitant, for the Magadan region - 52,7 thousand, for Yakutia - 41,3 thousand, for the Republic of Tyva - 28,6 thousand, for Chechnya - a little more than 10,2 thousand rubles.

In subsequent years, the situation changes for the North Caucasus regions of Russia in terms of subsidies for the better (Dr. Kosikov does not mention this in his monograph). In particular, following the results of 2011, the gap between subsidies per capita in Ingushetia and Kamchatka Krai was no longer 5 times, but 2,5 times (Ingushetia - 35,6 thousand rubles, Kamchatka - 89,6 thousand rubles).

After the start of the implementation of the development program for the Far East, it is obviously expected that the NCFD will lose a large percentage of federal subsidies, but if you believe the data from a monograph prepared by Igor Kosikov and his colleagues, the people of the North Caucasus declare their support for deeper interregional integration with other subjects. The Russian Federation, basing its wishes far from only on the financial component.

Of course, each region has its own strengths, which see any integration process exclusively on the “buying and selling” of interests, and therefore to say that only North Caucasian political elites have a financial interest in close contacts with Moscow - at least naively. Is it possible that in other regions of certain circles (including those close to the powerful) there is no interest in how to get more from the federal treasury, give it back less and hide away ... Has the North Caucasus alone recently been subsidized volumes? .. Is it only in Grozny or Makhachkala that there is such a phenomenon as corruption? ..

However, there are people in Russia (including in the North Caucasus) and beyond its borders who are clearly not interested in the fact that the North Caucasus is an integral part of the Russian Federation and actively integrate into the single development process of the country. It is beneficial for these individuals that the NCFD be a large powder keg, which could at any time take off into the air and split Russia into specific “principalities”. It is these people who are trying with all their might to promote an idea that can be described in such a phrase as “stop feeding the Caucasus”. But does anyone have any illusions that after “enough to feed the Caucasus” there will be no slogans “stop feeding the Far East”, “stop feeding Siberia” and then follow the list.

It is quite obvious that the research of the group of scientist Igor Kosikov gives food for thought about whether the North Caucasus has a future as an integral part of the territory of Russia. If the overwhelming majority of residents of the North Caucasus itself speaks of deepening integration, then all the talk about the fact that the North Caucasus Federal District is a burden for the rest of Russia is more like a manifestation of clearly counterproductive oddity. It is the escalation of such judgments that is the main goal of extremists of all stripes (and, most importantly, their patrons), who want to destabilize the situation and put their heads together the peoples inhabiting multinational Russia.
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  1. JonnyT
    JonnyT 15 January 2013 08: 45 New
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    They want, they don’t want .... they will be anyway !!
    1. Hammer
      Hammer 15 January 2013 08: 57 New
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      Well done, the author well forged the background of many nationalist movements in Russia.
      Although vague doubts gnaw me that the study of Kosikov is custom-made. Nevertheless, they are important and necessary, even with a known result. The government must and must shape the public opinion of its people, otherwise this opinion will form another government of another country. What actually happens ...

      1. sergey32
        sergey32 15 January 2013 09: 22 New
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        Come on, they have only monetary interest in Russia. Try to shut them off with a financial faucet, and armed performances will begin tomorrow. Eternal non-healing ulcer. As soon as the state is slightly weakened immediately in the Caucasus we get a stab in the back. It always has been, it is likely to remain so. It is unfortunate that this problem will pass on to our children. You yourself know what moods among the Caucasian youth, if they do not want to take them into our army with all the desire. Such is our love for money. Only, if anything, our sons will have to fight there, and not those of the elites.
        1. танк
          танк 15 January 2013 09: 35 New
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          Try to shut them off the financial faucet, and armed performances will begin tomorrow.

          Sergei, even if they block it, you will not get this money and no one at all, except for a certain circle of people. In my opinion, it’s better that the money goes to the Caucasus than I will send my son to fight there. It’s not clear who the money is. feel sorry for them.
          1. sergey32
            sergey32 15 January 2013 10: 34 New
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            танк,
            According to your money for feeding the Caucasus paper, it is better to pay off. Only the blackmailer usually says the next day: "This is not enough, pay more."
            1. танк
              танк 15 January 2013 12: 12 New
              +6
              I’m interested in what you can offer ??? enclose with barbed wire ??? there is no work there, there’s nothing so that we don’t rummage through the forests, here we feed, until the trend changes
            2. YARY
              YARY 15 January 2013 13: 00 New
              +5
              According to your money for feeding the Caucasus paper, it is better to pay off. Only the blackmailer usually says the next day: "This is not enough, pay more."
              1. atalef
                atalef 15 January 2013 13: 04 New
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                Quote: Ardent
                YARY Today, 13: 00 ↑ new

                Looking at Medvedev, I just can’t get rid of the feeling of internal discomfort. Yeltsin was a drunk, and this is some kind of clown, with a constant expression on his face - Type, and how did it roll me like that?
                1. dmitreach
                  dmitreach 16 January 2013 17: 08 New
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                  What if Putin was in the photo?
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 16 January 2013 17: 11 New
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                    Quote: dmitreach
                    What if Putin was in the photo?

                    Well, if my grandmother would have .......
            3. nagi
              nagi 15 January 2013 21: 11 New
              +6
              There are not many options. The Caucasus Mountains are strategically important for Russia, as a natural barrier to the defense day from the southern borders. RI spent a lot of effort to reach these lines and it is unreasonable to lose these lands. Ie it is necessary to somehow coexist. Yes, at the moment, the Russian Federation is giving rise money in order to maintain stability for the formation in these republics of some kind of stable institutions of power. An alternative is either the second resettlement of small nations or their genocide. The last two measures are associated with a lot of blood. And the Russian Federation will cost dearly.
          2. Civil
            Civil 15 January 2013 11: 32 New
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            танк,

            he is the same citizens of Russia ... and the overall budget
            1. танк
              танк 15 January 2013 15: 58 New
              +1
              By the way, you are right, the budget is COMMON and ours, and Chechen, and everyone, everyone !!! and in general now Moscow feeds everyone, and before we fed Moscow. The same can be said about another region, now Magadan learns that subsidies for it are less, Sanchez, say, to the Amurskaya, and will go with the slogans "enough to feed Amur." Kindergarten, not slogans. And the money goes to the Caucasus not from our meager taxes, but from oil and gas ... how.
              1. az719
                az719 15 January 2013 16: 45 New
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                I don’t care) In the Irkutsk region there are 4 hydroelectric power stations, BrAZ, in my town there is one of the largest timber industry complexes in Russia (and the world), if I am not mistaken with a trillion revenue per month, medveput on the board of directors, by the way, and Moscow feeds us. Maybe the opposite? wink
                1. танк
                  танк 16 January 2013 09: 12 New
                  +3
                  And taxes from all 4 hydroelectric power stations and the timber industry complex where do they go ???? you think in your zachuhannaya tax with a staff of 10 people ??? no !!! and then from Moscow (if they consider it necessary) they will be allocated again for pensions , orphanages, infrastructure development, etc. etc.
                2. dmitreach
                  dmitreach 16 January 2013 17: 11 New
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                  az719 Moscow can be called a "godfather", a "obshak". only it does not change the essence. If there was a capital in Yekaterinburg, for the last 20 years, I assure you, they would shout: "Enough to feed Yekaterinburg."
          3. Mairos
            Mairos 15 January 2013 14: 12 New
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            If this is the only question, then it is necessary to build a wall along the Terek and no one will have to send children to fight "in the Caucasus." It will simply be necessary to guard the border efficiently.
            1. Mairos
              Mairos 15 January 2013 15: 33 New
              +4
              Without understanding the meaning of what was written, they were minded. )) Probably the idea was formulated incorrectly.
          4. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris 15 January 2013 17: 32 New
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            If necessary, it is necessary to send there trinitrotoluene, trinitrophenol, dinitronaphthalene and a lot of other useful things. There are no other options. Either the "proud" highlanders live according to the laws of the country, or they simply should not exist. Only in this way and not otherwise. I know this audience very well, unfortunately, they simply do not understand another language.
          5. dmitreach
            dmitreach 16 January 2013 17: 07 New
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            танкmoney in this case (federal budget) - A sign of power and statehood. otherwise a sheaf.
        2. M. Peter
          M. Peter 15 January 2013 09: 39 New
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          Quote: sergey32
          Try to shut them off with a financial faucet, and armed performances will begin tomorrow.

          And you try to stop financing, say Novosibirsk, Irkutsk and Vladivostok, that they will smile sweetly and swallow silently?

          It is time to stop dividing the Russians into ours and not.
          They are the same citizens of the Russian Federation.
          1. kostella85
            kostella85 15 January 2013 10: 08 New
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            Novosibirsk and Irkutsk region - donor regions !!!
            1. Misantrop
              Misantrop 15 January 2013 17: 38 New
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              Quote: kostella85
              Novosibirsk and Irkutsk region - donor regions !!!

              This (externally) depends on the accepted method of collecting taxes. For example, in Ukraine, Crimea is a deeply subsidized region. How? Yes, it’s very simple - all the most profitable factories, motels, etc. They have head offices in Kiev. And ... there they pay taxes. And Crimea remains only garbage and industrial waste ...
            2. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris 15 January 2013 17: 54 New
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              Very simple - the main owners are registered in Moscow, or even, in general, somewhere in the Caribbean. Profit settles there, but here - only haemorrhoids with waste ...
          2. sergey32
            sergey32 15 January 2013 10: 20 New
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            M. Peter,
            Yes, they stopped financing in 90. My parents were at the defense plant for years without a salary, they survived in vegetable gardens, but for some reason they didn’t even think of going to rob trains, take hostages, kill civilians.
            About shit. We are with you on a decent site, respect your interlocutors. thanks.
            1. vladsolo56
              vladsolo56 15 January 2013 10: 47 New
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              What did you mean? in the 90s, banditry was flourishing all over Russia, and the trains were robbed and killed by thousands.
            2. vyatom
              vyatom 15 January 2013 11: 07 New
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              The worst thing is that the money at the plant most likely was. It’s just that now someone very tricky clownery sits with a bunch of dough, pretends to be a businessman or a politician, and teaches people how to live. While normal people were starving, they scrolled their hard-earned money in banks, etc. So all over Russia it was. Schaub tore them apart.
          3. Bekzat
            Bekzat 15 January 2013 12: 13 New
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            I greet everyone, for Peter, the right words, they are the same citizens of Russia, like everyone else.
          4. zementiy
            zementiy 15 January 2013 12: 18 New
            +7
            Big country big problems with good governance. They will always be dissatisfied. The main thing is to maintain stability, if possible not at the expense of certain regions, but more importantly so that there is no war. Although of course it is a shame that someone at the factory for a penny or in a mine, and someone after Alah Atbar and in Shekolada.
          5. Sandov
            Sandov 15 January 2013 17: 36 New
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            M. Peter,
            Together we will be strong and no one will block our oxygen. The last war of the Second World War showed what Russia is capable of when there is no confusion and reeling in it. No wonder the liberals shout that in Russia there is supposedly no freedom.
          6. Yasen Ping
            Yasen Ping 15 January 2013 19: 54 New
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            Do not be mistaken, the regions you specify give, not take ..
          7. cyberdamn
            cyberdamn 16 January 2013 01: 03 New
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            no, not the same. we don’t have guns, and in which case we really won’t go to blow ourselves up in the subway for loot and dope
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic 15 January 2013 11: 05 New
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          sergey32,
          Quote: sergey32
          As soon as the state weakens a little right away in the Caucasus we get a stab in the back.


          In the Caucasus, only a strong and fair government is accepted and respected, any democracy and tolerance is perceived as weakness. By the way, the famous conqueror of the Caucasus, General Ermolov ("formidable Yarmul" was called by the mountaineers themselves)
          Indulgence in the eyes of Asians is a sign of weakness, and I am directly out of philanthropy, being strictly inexorably. One execution will save hundreds of Russians from death and thousands of Muslims from treason. ”

          When in 1816 he arrived in the Caucasus as a proconsul (managing a civilian unit), he was faced with the tragic history of Major Pavel Shvetsov - returning from service from Georgia to Russia, he was abducted by highlanders and kept in an earthen pit for more than a year. The robbers demanded 250 thousand rubles. (today - more than $ 10 million), if the mountaineers did not receive a ransom, then they sold prisoners through established channels to the East. The general summoned the owners of the lands through which the captive major was transported, imprisoned them in the Kizlyar fortress and announced that if in 10 days they did not find the means to release Shvetsov, all 18 people would be hanged on the fortress bastion. The repurchase amount immediately decreased from 250 thousand to 10 thousand rubles. One of the Dagestan khans paid the money, the major was released. There is a version of 18 carts of silver and Chechen amanats, release without ransom, but the main thing was an act which the mountaineers did not expect.
          However, he not only harshly suppressed abrechestvo. robbery and dependency also built roads, schools, hospitals. Thanks to the activities of Ermolov, those highlanders who embarked on a peaceful path got the opportunity to study at the military institutions of the empire. After their graduation, they were ranked among the nobility and went to the Caucasus to serve Russia's interests.
          However, Ermolov issued an order not to undermine the faith of the highlanders under any circumstances. It was forbidden to deceive the locals, "So as not to lose the trust of the whole people". The general also wrote:
          “Inspire the troops so that they will certainly spare the defender or the more throwing weapon.”

          Now, instead of POWER, we have democracy and permissiveness, instead of JUSTICE, the cult of money and personal enrichment, "Money is everything!"
          and not frames as under Stalin. And in the Caucasus, these phenomena, by virtue of traditions and mentality, acquire the most ugly forms. This was the case before, the policy of appeasing local elites did not lead to anything good.
          the governors tried to appease the local princes, giving them ranks, up to generals, and paying a huge salary. They swore allegiance and immediately violated them. It got to the point of absurdity - the detachments of the highlanders could come to the commandant of the Russian fortress and invite him to make a joint raid on the neighboring fortress!

          Yuri Klychnikov, Doctor of Historical Sciences.
          In any case, the Caucasus will not live independently - there will be no Wahhabi Arabs with their caliphate, or amers with their shit democracy, Russia will come
          but these will not stand on ceremony with proud highlanders, and again it will be more than once happened Russia save us. And as soon as the danger is over, you can again sit on the neck with his legs dangling.
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 15 January 2013 11: 55 New
            +9
            However, Igor Kosikov and his colleagues, obviously, when creating their collective monograph, understood that such claims could manifest themselves, and therefore provide a series of economic materials, according to which subsidies from the federal budget to the same Ingushetia per capita for 2010 a year were only one-fifth from subsidies to Kamchatka. For Ingushetia - 12,9 thousand rubles per person, for the Kamchatka region - more than 65 thousand rubles per inhabitant, for the Magadan region - 52,7 thousand, for Yakutia - 41,3 thousand, for the Republic of Tyva - 28,6 thousand, for Chechnya - a little more than 10,2 thousand rubles.
            Maybe it’s more accurate to calculate how much returns each invested ruble per capita brings?
            Quote: M.Pyotr
            They are the same citizens of the Russian Federation.

            From such statements only the person warps. wassat belay
            During the second company and in 1942 they had every chance of ceasing to exist as an ethnic group. Let them remember that they got a chance for the future under the rays of the sun.
          2. Andrey from Tver
            Andrey from Tver 15 January 2013 12: 24 New
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            Ascetic, I agree completely. According to Wikipedia, there are more than 180 nationalities in Russia, but no one has heard, for example, Ukrainians or Karelians, or Yakuts dancing anywhere, or shooting in the center of Moscow, or just lifting people up. After all, Caucasians even stopped calling in the Armed Forces! And personally, I don’t understand why Russia is ceremony with them?
            1. aleks
              aleks 16 January 2013 14: 06 New
              +2
              and what they have to do, they don’t know how and don’t want to-you somewhere saw a Chechen turner, locksmith, railway worker, etc.
            2. tungus-meteorit
              tungus-meteorit 16 January 2013 22: 48 New
              +2
              They stopped conscripting not “Caucasians” into the army, but only Chechens, Ingush and Dagestanis, but Ossetians, Kabardins and Circassians were only recruited more. Therefore, please distinguish between "Caucasians" and indicate a specific nationality. It's just as if I said: "All Slavs fought for Hitler." Fought, but which of the Slavs? Croats, Slovaks, Bulgarians, Western Ukrainians. And they fought against other Slavs: Russians, Serbs, Belarusians, Ukrainians. Also with the "Caucasians". Therefore, clarifications are needed.
          3. YARY
            YARY 15 January 2013 15: 10 New
            +2
            Stanislas Thanks for the pleasant reading.
            I want to ask only one thing, what does the lesson of Carthage teach us (responsible people)?
            And similar lessons in history, the listing of which is impossible?
          4. tungus-meteorit
            tungus-meteorit 16 January 2013 22: 41 New
            +3
            Different peoples, different cultures and religions live in the Caucasus. Therefore, the "Caucasians" are different (as there are different Slavs) and in general there is a very big difference between the North Caucasian republics in everything. In Chechnya, skyscrapers are being built and huge subsidies are given, but in Vladikavkaz everything is falling apart and the federal authorities are raking out billions of nonferrous metals without revenues to the local budget. Chechens, Ingush and Dagestanis (in part) do not go to serve in the army, and Ossetians, Kabardians and Circassians have only begun to call on more. What kind of double standards, don't you notice? Some "Caucasians" plow in the sweat of their brows and tirelessly, while others are hooligans in Russian cities. And you call all of them "abreks" and "bandits". Then, for us, all Muscovites will be “wife dismembers” and “pedophiles”? Therefore, please distinguish which "Caucasians", which specific nationalities, etc.
        4. djon3volta
          djon3volta 15 January 2013 13: 31 New
          -3
          Quote: sergey32
          Try to shut them off with a financial faucet, and armed performances will begin tomorrow.

          and if you shut off the financial tap, you probably will dance for joy? you are probably the only person on earth who rejoices when his pocket is empty. fool
          1. sergey32
            sergey32 15 January 2013 14: 37 New
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            djon3volta,
            But I don’t drip from anywhere, I earn money myself. I had very difficult times, but I didn’t get the barrel.
        5. Mairos
          Mairos 15 January 2013 14: 09 New
          +7
          "..they have only monetary interest in Russia" +100500
          Moreover, both among the elites and among many ordinary residents of the region, despite the fact that their self-esteem simply goes off scale and their pride is exorbitant - they believe that everyone should respect them beyond all measure, although, if you look at it, they mostly work for themselves and their kindred clan. They don't care if they can do it as part of Russia or as part of Turkey, for example. The main thing is "it is possible to buy, to sell, to take more and give less .."
        6. dmitreach
          dmitreach 16 January 2013 17: 05 New
          0
          sergey32, the same can be said about the Slavs. the same 1917 ....
        7. tungus-meteorit
          tungus-meteorit 16 January 2013 22: 30 New
          +1
          Different peoples, different cultures and religions live in the Caucasus. Therefore, the "Caucasian youth" is different, and in general there is a very big difference between the North Caucasian republics in everything. Please distinguish.
        8. badabing
          badabing 21 January 2013 14: 37 New
          0
          If you shut off the faucet, you will also come forward, and you’ll also take up arms, well, maybe not right away, but for a week, I’ll probably go with you too, such is the world, you have to pay for bread. The financial issue is a common one, and this is what needs to be addressed. I live in Stavropol, and I see it all with my own eyes and I really don’t like what is happening, but I can look into the distance and see that steps are being taken, do you think that you organized the North Caucasus Federal District?
          gradually raise the economic component of the republics at the expense of the same Stavropol region, the republics do not have their own forces and will not appear. Time will pass and Caucasians will appear on this earth who will also have something to lose: work, education, family, savings ..
          Yes, many Russians will have to move and maybe I will too, and this is awful, but I understand that there is no other way, just another way to refuse them, well, you and I understand what this threatens us, we can see who there we have in our neighbors and we understand very well that there is also an overseas neighbor who can’t wait until we all together “stop feeding” the Caucasus and give the region to them, just so that we would then feed the whole pack, and die with hunger
          I repeat, freaks on priors can no longer be redone, but you can make their children and grandchildren normal citizens (albeit with their own nuances), so let's do it
          I see no other way
        9. Hammer
          Hammer 11 February 2013 05: 04 New
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          Everything is exactly in my opinion (by the way, not only in my opinion) to pay for a relative peace in the Caucasus with money than to fight there and pay for it with the lives of our soldiers ... a relative peace (even if it is money) is all exactly much better than "good "war ...
      2. alan1904
        alan1904 15 January 2013 10: 35 New
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        I completely agree, I live in the UK and much in these "studies" does not correspond to reality, which means it is sucked from the finger. domineering order !!!
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 15 January 2013 11: 51 New
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          Quote: alan1904
          I completely agree, I live in the UK and much in these "studies" does not correspond to reality, which means it is sucked from the finger. domineering order !!!


          Of course. For example, you will not find a single study on such specific issues. How do you feel about your daughter getting married to a representative of the peoples concerned or the son marrying a representative of the peoples concerned? Are you ready to live on the same landing with them? As I understand it, such surveys are conducted, but the results are such that it is better to classify them. This is objectively determined because ethnic aggression experienced by residents of large, and now small cities, monstrous.
          The situation is very simple, if we lose this ethnic competition, in Moscow it will be the same as in the city of Grozny, it will quickly cease to be a Russian city. Many will say yes and to hell with it this Moscow city of snickering snobs, but no one thinks about it or, more simply, has no idea that almost ALL bodies of the strategic and operational command of the RF Armed Forces, the most important state objects of strategic importance are concentrated in the Moscow region, respectively, people are concentrated here who manage, work and live as a rule in compact military towns or areas of residence.
          Now the Americans are actively developing the theory of future wars, the so-called. "secentric war", the main idea of ​​which is the disorganization at the initial stage of the most important bodies and headquarters of the country's administration (which historically are located in Moscow and the Moscow region). Therefore, there is nothing easier to create in the Moscow region a worked-out version of the Kosovo scenario by increasing the base of unfriendly ethnic migration and at the right time to organize chaos, sabotage at life support facilities, terrorist attacks. riots in the necessary military towns and areas. Somewhere to disrupt communications, power supply, just bring the angry crowds to the streets and, in fact, organize a state of siege in Moscow. And then Russia can again be brought to its knees dictating its will to it.

          It is no coincidence that in the USSR, Moscow was considered a city with a special status of residence (remember 101 km and restrictions on living), not because the capital and the high authorities and the Moscow elite were cut in the eyes by all the trash who came in large numbers (as the "near-wed" elites like to say now)
          and above all, for reasons of STRATEGIC SECURITY.
          Now it’s probably not possible to find an analysis of the situation in the media or on the Internet in this perspective (with figures, facts, etc.) and this is understandable on the basis of who REALLY BELONGES to these media, moreover, hatred of Moscow from the Russian regions is actively promoted so that in the event of the implementation of such a scenario, there were no new Minin And Pozharsky from Nizhny Novgorod, but on the contrary, everyone joyfully rubbed their hands and applauded with shouts as you need.
          Well, plans for the separation of Russia and its regions existed and will exist, you must always remember this and evaluate the situation not only from the perspective of my hut from the edge, I don’t know anything

          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 15 January 2013 13: 11 New
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            I agree with the first paragraph all 100%.
            Everything else can be "replayed" in any direction.
            MOSCOW-Russian city? belay And this is modern reality!
            1. ramzes1776
              ramzes1776 15 January 2013 16: 06 New
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              Quote: Papakiko
              MOSCOW-Russian city? belay And this is modern reality!

              Judge for yourself. And this is not counting illegal migrant workers from all the Asian countries of the CIS.
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic 15 January 2013 18: 02 New
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              Quote: Papakiko
              Everything else can be "replayed" in any direction.


              Don’t play like that. At any moment, a quiet and modest janitor turn into a mujahideen with a gun. And hello Aleppo on Vlasith (TsKP RVSN) and Homs in Solnechnogorsk. (KP SPRN). Here is the center of Moscow. Manezhnaya Square December 31, 2012



              But fighters for democracy and opponents of "Putin's bloody regime" They went to the march for children (which they honestly do not care deeply about). People called this Sunday march aptly "PEDOPHIL'S MARCH".
              This is how we live on the one hand, the dominance of migrants. on the other, agents of influence and the fifth column, again aspiring to become the "conscience of the nation" as in the times of Gorbachev

              1. garik404
                garik404 15 January 2013 21: 13 New
                +7
                But what is this going on ???
                What kind of person is not of Slavic nationality (judging by a short video mostly of Eugene people) wandering along the street and supposedly protecting our children to please the American government.
          2. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris 15 January 2013 17: 57 New
            -3
            Moscow is no longer a Russian city ... It is too far from Russia.
            1. YARY
              YARY 15 January 2013 18: 55 New
              -1
              Moscow is no longer a Russian city ... It is too far from Russia
              1. YARY
                YARY 15 January 2013 19: 00 New
                +7
                We are following the path of France ....
              2. morpex
                morpex 15 January 2013 19: 51 New
                +4
                Moscow is no longer a Russian city ... It is too far from Russia
          3. Sandov
            Sandov 15 January 2013 18: 27 New
            +5
            Ascetic,
            +++ Pros per video. Somewhere and that was known at that time. So, do not flatter yourself about our partners. With one hand they will say hello, and with the other they will cut the bosco.
          4. Karabin
            Karabin 15 January 2013 23: 18 New
            +6
            Quote: Ascetic
            Now the Americans are actively developing the theory of future wars, the so-called. "secentric war", the main idea of ​​which is the disorganization at the initial stage of the most important bodies and headquarters of the country's administration (which historically are located in Moscow and the Moscow region). Therefore, there is nothing easier to create in the Moscow region a worked-out version of the Kosovo scenario by increasing the base of unfriendly ethnic migration and at the right time to organize chaos, sabotage at life support facilities, terrorist attacks. riots in the necessary military towns and areas.

            Dear Ascetic, you sometimes drifts on turns. To justify the stupidity and greed of those who are responsible for our migration, the machinations of treacherous Americans is already too much.
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 16 January 2013 16: 57 New
              0
              Karabin,
              The insidiousness of the amers is known, you cannot hide it, how can you not hide the corruption of our bureaucracy. But these are different things, they do not need to be mixed. Sales officials essentially pour water on the Ameri mill.
      3. volcano
        volcano 15 January 2013 10: 46 New
        15
        Quote: Hammer
        Although vague doubts gnaw me that the study of Kosikov, how are custom-made


        A colleague .... well, as bee probably agree.
        The author (of the research) somehow amusingly compared Kamchatka with the Caucasus completely ignoring the fact6 that Kamchatka, according to our laws, is an extremely unfavorable natural area, and there are increasing coefficients.
        This is the same as comparing the DD of a serviceman serving on Novaya Zemlya and in Voronezh. On NC, the increasing coefficient is 3 i.e. the military gets three times as much.
        And of course, that in the RCC and equivalent to them, the costs will be much higher than in the Caucasus.
        And the main question that the people are eating. The Caucasus DOES NOT PRODUCE ANYTHING. A MONEY FROM THE BUDGET HAS A LOT of the author generally bypassed. and it would be strange to assume that such a situation is NOT like the inhabitants of the Caucasus.
        Well, the cornerstone question of this whole topic. And how will the Caucasus behave if it reduces the amount of funding to .... let's say financing of ordinary Russian regions?
        Yes, and amused such modest figures in Chechnya. And where does Ramzan only get money for all his "show off"?

        And about the fact that the residents of the UK FOR great integration ..... Ha Ha, I’m generally touched. of course FOR ... they need everything and everywhere .... and for some reason, preferably not in the Caucasus
        1. valerei
          valerei 15 January 2013 12: 05 New
          14
          Volkan, I want to add to the topic of your comment: Russians were not killed in any of the subsidized regions, and tens of thousands were killed in the Caucasus, and even pay them for it. Even if the necessary jobs are built in the Caucasus, I strongly doubt that the Caucasians will work there. Well, perhaps, except for the little things and in those places where there will be real money.
        2. Mairos
          Mairos 15 January 2013 15: 41 New
          +3
          "And where does Ramzan only get money for all his" show off "?" - once in an interview he "honestly" said "Allah helped!"
      4. NKVD
        NKVD 15 January 2013 17: 24 New
        +5
        It is necessary to conduct a survey in central Russia, but do the Russians want the Caucasus to be part of Russia ??
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 January 2013 09: 01 New
      +8
      Quote: JonnyT

      They want, they don’t want .... they will be anyway !!

      Well yes, who will ask them - democracy wassat
      With regards to the North Caucasus Federal District, it will lose after the adoption of the Far East Development Program, Well, it will lose and lose. The Far East already lived poorly, and money flowed into the Caucasus that didn’t plunder steadily. They will send less, they will steal less, also the fight against corruption laughing
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 15 January 2013 09: 59 New
        12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . They will send less, they will steal less, also the fight against corruption

        Hello Sasha! The problem is that they will not steal less, the mentality is not the same ....,
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 January 2013 10: 23 New
          +7
          Quote: Tersky
          The problem is that they will not steal less, the mentality is not the same ....

          Hi Vitya, how else will they become, when there is little money and you don’t get a whistle, there’s nothing stupid. Rallies of the people will begin, where our loot am ? and we tactfully point out the mansions of officials, well, like let’s hand over repeat As a result, the people will defeat corruption and temporarily officials will stop stealing, fearing popular anger.
          What am I talking about, like I didn’t drink laughing
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 15 January 2013 10: 46 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What am I talking about, like I didn’t drink

            It’s going to be wink
          2. Ustas
            Ustas 15 January 2013 11: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            officials will stop stealing, fearing popular anger. What I did not seem to drink about

            And I thought it was a sinful thing, I drank too much :)))
            Hi Sasha!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 January 2013 12: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Ustas

              And I thought it was a sinful thing, I drank too much :)))

              Hi Gene, yes, all the holidays have already ended, but it's a pity winked
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 15 January 2013 09: 04 New
      19
      Quote:.
      In subsequent years, the situation changes for the North Caucasus regions of Russia in terms of subsidies for the better (


      Of course, in the best, no brainer, Belgorod region. Federal subsidies per capita in 2011 958 rubles. Chechen Republic - 13 021 rubles. Interestingly, they began to pay for energy? Or are we still paying for them?
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 15 January 2013 09: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        Interestingly, they began to pay for energy? Or are we still paying for them?

        Chechnya does not seem to be paying for gas. Unfairly like that
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 15 January 2013 09: 52 New
        +9
        Quote: Vadivak
        Interestingly, they began to pay for energy?

        Good health, Vadim! They pay, I often go to Chechnya (it’s 40 km from me), although 30-40% is less than we are.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 15 January 2013 10: 03 New
          +9
          Quote: Tersky
          True, 30-40% less than us.

          Hi Victor there was a time they lit the streets with gas
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 15 January 2013 10: 08 New
            +4
            Quote: Vadivak
            there was a time they lit the streets with gas

            In Grozny, before the first war, there were two thermal power plants on 600 megawatts, it was enough only for the needs of the city, the periphery consumed the Stavropol and Nevinnomy electricity.
        2. vyatom
          vyatom 15 January 2013 11: 09 New
          0
          Is there anything in Chechnya?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 15 January 2013 11: 26 New
            10
            Quote: vyatom

            Is there anything in Chechnya?

            Judging by how they live there, they make money there hi
            1. atalef
              atalef 15 January 2013 15: 58 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Judging by how they live there, they make money there

              (+), the impression is that they, in addition to everything else, propagate them by cloning. (because it is simply not realistic to produce so much)
          2. Papakiko
            Papakiko 15 January 2013 12: 08 New
            0
            Last week in one of the branches they discussed "a large brewery".
            True, they did not receive an answer, where it is located, how much it produces and what.
            http://topwar.ru/22909-ramzan-kadyrov-istinnyy-chechenec-obyazan-byt-obrazcom-po
            vedeniya-v-obschestve.html # comment-id-824372
          3. donchepano
            donchepano 15 January 2013 12: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: vyatom
            Is there anything in Chechnya?

            parasitism, dependency - a little bit of everything like be
          4. satellite
            satellite 15 January 2013 22: 26 New
            0
            produces less than nothing
      3. Manager
        Manager 15 January 2013 10: 54 New
        +8
        Quote: Vadivak
        Of course, in the best, no brainer, Belgorod region. Federal subsidies per capita in 2011 958 rubles. Chechen Republic - 13 021 rubles. Interestingly, they began to pay for energy? Or are we still paying for them?


        This, well, the North Caucasus Igo is direct. We pay tribute. The question is why, why, and basically who? Ordinary residents or government?
        Here everything seems to be getting better in our country. But with this Caucasus, the same song is constantly the same. Or war or reckoning. In any case, what is there that officials are cashing in there.
        I get the impression that the Caucasus is used purely for laundering gigantic funds. At what on both sides.
      4. Garrin
        Garrin 15 January 2013 18: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        . Interestingly, they began to pay for energy? Or are we still paying for them?
        Well, for that matter, we pay for China, or rather, we pay the costs of our unfortunate oligarchs.
    4. Homo
      Homo 15 January 2013 09: 25 New
      +7
      JonnyT, so do not say! If they want, they will be Russians (with all rights and obligations), and if they don’t want, they will be colonies (with a minimum of rights and a large number of duties). Do we need this? We already have enough problems. Why set people against whom you can and should live in peace against yourself. Indeed, behind our backs we have a lot in common with the positive and the war with Turkey and the construction of the Russian state and the construction of the USSR and the Great Patriotic War. We have more than something repulsive!
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 15 January 2013 10: 09 New
        +3
        I agree ...... but in the current situation, the separation of the Caucasus from Russia will lead to the complete collapse of our country! There is no choice, together until the end !!!
        And the Caucasus is also not a gift. There were constant disturbances. Western specials services constantly cultivate instability there. So there should be some "harshness and lack of principle" in regard to the Caucasus
      2. valerei
        valerei 15 January 2013 12: 14 New
        +5
        Homo, and the massacres and robbery of Russians? What's this? Also brings together? Chechens well remember those who killed them in the war and they will never get close to the Russians because of this. But for themselves, they consider it right to kill and rob the civilian Russians. And Kadyrov still has the conscience to call Russians to Chechnya!
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 16 January 2013 19: 15 New
          0
          And he has nowhere to go, the republic needs specialists.
      3. volcano
        volcano 15 January 2013 12: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: Homo
        we have a lot in common positive and the war with Turkey


        And on which side in this war were they? Let me curiosity wink
        And what kind of war with Turkey do you mean? There was a sea of ​​them.
        I would like to remind you that the aggressive and anti-Russian mood in the Caucasus appeared due to the "work" of Turkish and British agents, for whom Russia is an eternal enemy6 and who were tasked to turn the Caucasus against the Republic of Ingushetia.
        So when we got there, we were met .... ahem .... well, not with bread and salt, that's for sure.

        A couple of years ago I watched a documentary about the beginning of wars in the Caucasus.
        So it was said there that we came there to oppose the Turks, but by and large had no "claims" to the Caucasian peoples themselves.
        And ours sent foragers to stock up on food ... A day or two passed, they were gone .... went to search ... found an aul ..... there were no inhabitants, and in the center of the aul, the heads of our foragers lay with a pyramid .. ..That's how the Caucasian war began. For no reason at all ... cut the guys heads and that's it ...
        1. Mairos
          Mairos 15 January 2013 18: 49 New
          +2
          "but by and large they had no claims to the Caucasian peoples themselves." - you ask the Cossacks, whose villages were robbed by the highlanders and whose relatives the highlanders had been slaughtering for more than one century. The highlanders, in principle, robbed each other and everyone around them - so they adapted to survive in the meager mountains. But no one should be sympathetic to the desire of a wolf to tear your throat, just because he wants to eat meat.
    5. YARY
      YARY 15 January 2013 09: 29 New
      13
      They want, they don’t want .... they will be anyway !!


      "The next war in the Caucasus will end with the complete destruction of its peoples, as Russia is tired of enduring"
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 15 January 2013 09: 57 New
        21
        YARY
        Quote: Ardent
        will end with the complete destruction of its peoples

        It is quite possible ... It is a pity, but possible. All tales about the "invincibility" of any people are only FAIRY TALES. They like to cite Afghan as an example, they say, no matter how much they try to conquer (defeat) him - well, not a conquered people. And laughter and sin ... Yes, no one needs him fucking, as a mess territory. As a territory to control - yes, as your own? For what? Therefore, the "invincible", that no one was going to defeat them, live on their "land", use their resources (which do not exist). So it is with any people. If necessary, they will erase any. Sad but true. Of course - I would not like to.

        And according to the article. It is not very correct to compare only subsidies and "injections". And the impact? What does the country have from the North Caucasus Federal District and: Kamchatka (bioresources), Yakutia, Magadna and their regions (a bunch of deposits). And again, the same, climatic conditions ...
        For the Far East, in my opinion, all subsidies are only part of COMPENSATIONS ... Alas.
        1. alan1904
          alan1904 15 January 2013 10: 47 New
          10
          I worked for many years (all my life) in the North, Far East, mined gold, fish, forest, and this is the currency, and COMPENSATION for such wealth in the bins is a small fraction, and do not forget that the Far East is a military outpost of Russia (albeit a weakened one)
    6. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 January 2013 09: 33 New
      +7
      While reading this article, I was waiting and when will the research data be given at least thesis (in addition to the numbers about the dates). But ... Unfortunately nothing, just an advertisement for the monograph itself, all the same, I would like to at least get acquainted with the author's abstract or something ... It is certainly a plus that such studies are being conducted.
      1. alan1904
        alan1904 15 January 2013 10: 50 New
        0
        That's right, no specifics, it seems to squabble and disperse, but if specific numbers and conclusions ..... (as well as water ......)
    7. Maximars
      Maximars 15 January 2013 15: 23 New
      +6
      For Ingushetia - 12,9 thousand rubles per person, for the Kamchatka region - more than 65 thousand rubles per inhabitant, for the Magadan region - 52,7 thousand, for Yakutia - 41,3 thousand, for the Republic of Tyva - 28,6 thousand, for Chechnya - a little over 10,2 thousand rubles. ,
      Yes, they just scoff. To compare the North Caucasus Federal District with the Far East is a fact of moronism. Based on the climatic conditions and remoteness of the territory of the Far East, it is already possible to erect a monument to the inhabitants of the "distant".
  2. SCS
    SCS 15 January 2013 08: 57 New
    +3
    ..... give food for thought about whether the North Caucasus has a future as an integral part of the territory of Russia.
    Quite a strange phrase that gives food for thought !!!
    such thoughts should not even be! We are a single country ... and do not need provocations!)
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 15 January 2013 09: 43 New
      13
      Quote: SCS
      We are a single country ... and do not need provocations!


      Similarly, let’s in fairness to who earned what, respectively
      and received.
    2. alan1904
      alan1904 15 January 2013 10: 51 New
      +1
      I think this is the most accurate answer to the article !!!!
  3. tolan_petrovich
    tolan_petrovich 15 January 2013 09: 05 New
    +6
    I think it is necessary to subsidize, this is also Russia, but it is also necessary to demand. I violated the law here, send it there and make sure that we punished ourselves in all severity.

    And so they’re chasing them on maybeh and have already begun to attack the cops (by ignorance about ordinary people they wouldn’t have heard)
  4. anatoliy.colonel
    anatoliy.colonel 15 January 2013 09: 11 New
    +9
    Yes. Stop feeding the Caucasus. For some reason, I. Kosikov chose Ingushetia to compare the size of the subsidy, and why not Chechnya? Indeed, in fact, most of the funds go there to other republics, but the Stavropol Territory itself receives almost nothing. Therefore, this study is worthless, and if you already get money for such studies, you need to take this very seriously.
    1. mda
      mda 15 January 2013 18: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: anatoliy.colonel
      Indeed, in fact, most of the funds go there to other republics, but the Stavropol Territory itself receives almost nothing.

      90% of Chechnya’s budget is from the federal budget. And it’s clear who feeds whom
  5. Greyfox
    Greyfox 15 January 2013 09: 18 New
    30
    All the same, the question must be posed as follows: "Does Russia want the North Caucasus to be its integral part?"
    The comparison that is given in the article is incorrect - the republics of the North Caucasus are all the same in the South, where “stick a stick in the ground, it will turn green.” Kamchatka is a harsh region, for everything imported, prices are simply awful (as in other North it goes not to "Maybakhi", but to elementary milk. And sending money to Kamchatka, you can be 100 percent sure that you will never hear about Kamchatka terrorists .... Can you say the same about Ingushetia or Dagestan?
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 January 2013 09: 55 New
      16
      All this is certainly true, all is correct (c) Caucasian captive. But my friends, if Russia does not need the Caucasus and the inhabitants of the rest of Russia are against it being a part of the federation, then the same question automatically arises in the Far East, and in many other places. Let me remind you again that the North Caucasus is an all-Union and a granary and a health resort and a lot of other things, but they just won't learn how to manage effectively, everyone chews snot, and meanwhile, it's not so difficult to make it economically profitable, because you rightly said "stick a stick - will grow. " So what's the problem? Why is Kuvkaz on dates? Maybe you just need to put things in order and not shout that "the Caucasus is lost for us."
      By the way, I’ll add, unofficially, of course, but the population doesn’t see that amount of money in the Caucasus ...

      "Does Russia want the North Caucasus to be an integral part of it?"

      So if he doesn’t want, why did he pull the tail for three hundred years? Not! Definitely the North Caucasus is the same territory of Russia as the Moscow region for example, this is not discussed, but it’s time to put things in order!
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 15 January 2013 10: 14 New
        10
        klimpopov

        Quote: klimpopov
        The North Caucasus is an all-Union and granary and health resort and much more

        Are you laughing? .. The phrase was pulled from the USSR, and after about D "effective" managers ...
        To live a little bit, to improve your health, do not want tama? ..
        They also talk about the development of tourism. This is let the boobies from Europe treat. Of course, maybe we can find extremes where they don’t exist ... I can imagine what will happen in the North Caucasus Federal District before and during the Olympics - there will be more people in uniform (MO, MVD, ChOPy) than civilians.
        Such a development is tourism.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 15 January 2013 10: 26 New
          +9
          You know, I'm healthy, I've been correcting here since birth and nothing, and I go to the Karachayevo-Cherkessia for the weekend, do you know it helps and not expensive ... Do you know how many people live here after work in the north? My answer is a lot. I will tell you about nature. And it calms the nerves, and there are enough tourists from different regions, also the Elbrus region (Kabarda), the same Dombay (KCR), but I like Arkhyz more. I sincerely wish you to visit there, change your idea ... Dombay Muscovites have occupied, but recently a guy crashed because of the "wildness" of tourism, he is not under his control. I mean this order. And what about the phrase, you're in vain, it is ...
          And here I live here and not at all against a large number of people in uniform, they caught so much in front of NG that the traffic police really stood at every intersection with reinforcement, you know, it was calm, I don’t even mind ...
        2. rkka
          rkka 15 January 2013 10: 27 New
          -1
          Have you been there?
        3. Aventurinka
          Aventurinka 15 January 2013 10: 33 New
          +7
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          Imagine what will happen in the North Caucasus Federal District before and during the Olympics

          In the Stavropol Territory, the Ministry of Defense is actively building; old abandoned military towns and other facilities are being restored. Yes, and much more is happening. And this is only the Stavropol Territory (what I personally know). What is being done in the republics - no comment ...
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 15 January 2013 10: 39 New
            +4
            Yes, I note in my own city, and even, lo and behold, military patrols appeared, which has not happened since Soviet times.
      2. Aventurinka
        Aventurinka 15 January 2013 10: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: klimpopov
        Now it's time to put things in order!

        It, of course, is necessary ... But I remember Khloponin’s face when he was told on the air that he and I would be the plenipotentiary with us .... He turned white and perspiration came out. With this approach, there will be no order ...
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 15 January 2013 10: 36 New
          +5
          I greet you. Yes Khloponin will not change anything really, he only knows how to ride, he came to us - he arrived and left only the city was blocked for half a day, but he cut the ribbon on melamine ... Here the approach is in power. But I remember an official from the Stavropol government (I forgot my last name) when he was transferred to Chechnya to distribute compensation, his eyes were like a cat and turned pink ...
      3. serge
        serge 15 January 2013 12: 44 New
        +2
        klimpopov
        The North Caucasus is an all-union and granary and health resort
        -----------------------
        This phrase from the comedy "Prisoner of the Caucasus" is said there with a laugh.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 15 January 2013 13: 57 New
          0
          Where is it said with a laugh? Comrade Saahov speaks quite seriously.
          1. serge
            serge 15 January 2013 20: 09 New
            +1
            Tovarisch Saakhov says this with humor, announcing a toast. In general, it is good to see such a serious approach to comedy. Smile, comrade. A minute of laughter replaces a kilo of carrots.
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 16 January 2013 09: 54 New
              0
              Yes, I am also with humor. Is it really not clear. Just do not place emoticons.
      4. volcano
        volcano 15 January 2013 14: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: klimpopov
        But my friends, if Russia does not need the Caucasus and the inhabitants of the rest of Russia against it being part of the federation, then the same question automatically arises in the Far East


        Klim ... there is one thing between these regions, BUT a very important difference. This is the population. Far East, like Siberia and Primorye, is Russian, Cossacks (not without visitors of course, but the bulk of it), and the Caucasus is Islam, it is NOT Russian, with its own culture, religions and customs. It is not necessary to transfer everything to the plane of the economy, because in fact, this is far from the most important component.
        Much more important is the unity of thought and spirit, faith and traditions, customs and lifestyle. And then even the poor people will live as a single organism.
        And now it seems to me that THIS is the most important factor of Unity is crammed away into a dark corner, and some financial issues are being brought to the top. Of course there is no way without them, but to say that the Caucasus is like this because there is no work, there is no employment, this is fundamentally wrong.
        I think this is all from the evil one. hi
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 15 January 2013 14: 38 New
          +1
          Well, here I can answer one thing: if there is employment among the population and, as it is logical to assume, income, then questions of unity are put aside, a well-fed person is a calm person. And SC is not quite straight Islam, although of course it’s hard to disagree with you in many ways.
          Again, my personal opinion.
      5. Mairos
        Mairos 15 January 2013 18: 53 New
        +1
        ".. The North Caucasus is an all-Union and granary and health resort" - especially now ..
        1. donchepano
          donchepano 16 January 2013 09: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Mairos
          ".. The North Caucasus is an all-Union and granary and health resort" - especially now ..

          it includes the Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories. and this is really the granary
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 16 January 2013 09: 54 New
            0
            Yes, for some reason, it is forgotten that Stavropol and Krasnodar are included there, although in the North Caucasus Federal District only Stavropol is included.
  6. Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 15 January 2013 09: 24 New
    26
    Trepachi! Local residents of the North Caucasus say this: went to Russia, or came from Russia. Did you compare the subsidies with Kamchatka, Magadan, Tuva ?! Yes, everything is imported there and on the winter road. And why not compare with the Kaluga and Samara regions? Compare kui with a finger, idiocy.
  7. vladds
    vladds 15 January 2013 09: 33 New
    0
    In fact, the North Caucasus Federal District is just unfinished Switzerland! :)
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 15 January 2013 09: 54 New
      11
      Quote: vladds
      In fact, the North Caucasus Federal District is just unfinished Switzerland!

      I live in the North Caucasus Federal District, far here to Switzerland .... how to Beijing on all fours
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 15 January 2013 10: 08 New
        16
        Very much, sorry, unfinished. Yes, and the Swiss are somehow strange ....
        1. donchepano
          donchepano 15 January 2013 10: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: klimpopov

          Yes, and the Swiss are somehow strange ....

          Yes Klim ... for sure ..)) you ++ 1000.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 15 January 2013 09: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: vladds
      In fact, the North Caucasus Federal District is just unfinished Switzerland!


      And the Swiss are the same?
  8. askort154
    askort154 15 January 2013 09: 38 New
    +1
    Why such provocative headlines ?! Chechnya has already tried - a sea of ​​blood.
    1. Illuminati
      Illuminati 15 January 2013 09: 41 New
      0
      Quote: askort154

      Why such provocative headlines ?! Chechnya has already tried - a sea of ​​blood

      Yes, why, how many deaths. I'm sure not every journalist would like to lose his relatives
  9. atalef
    atalef 15 January 2013 09: 40 New
    21
    Quote: Byordovvv1
    And why not compare with the Kaluga and Samara regions? Compare kui with a finger, idiocy.

    Look at the happy physiognomy of Kadyrov. Lamburgini corteges, Mafia clans of the North. Caucasus, invitation to the stars of football, pop music (which is not cheaper) and banquets. For some reason, this is not the case in Tuva, Kaluga or Samara regions. And the fact that in the same Chechnya they earn this money - I laugh. All this due to subsidies, cuts and at the cost of lowering living standards in other Russian regions. Money does not appear from the air. Today they bought the Caucasus (more precisely, bought their relative loyalty), which costs patriotism for money. can be seen simply by slightly closing the tap. The consequences are clear to everyone.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 January 2013 10: 09 New
      +3
      Everything is simple - Asia. Dust in the eyes, with it gold. This is a national trait.
      Have you forgotten why Chechnya is so "expensive"? Oil that you can dig up in the garden with a shovel. In difficult times, the Stavropol Territory changed fuel and lubricants for grain from the Chechens because they survived.
    2. Ribwort
      Ribwort 15 January 2013 11: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: atalef
      Money from the air does not appear.

      How they appear! Ramzan has already answered the question "Where does the money come from?"
      Aha, so he said without hesitation: "Allah gives." (He apparently prints)
      True, Putin was a little embarrassed - he had never seen such subtle compliments in his spawn ...
      Nevertheless, the question was closed.
  10. Region65
    Region65 15 January 2013 09: 40 New
    +1
    However, there are people in Russia (including on the territory of the North Caucasus) and outside its borders who are clearly not interested in the North Caucasus being an integral part of the Russian Federation and actively integrating into the unified development process of the country. It is beneficial for these people that the North-Caucasian Federal District should be a big powder keg that could .... HERE THESE MOST FACE THESE NEEDS A LITTLE SPIT AND THEN KEEP ON THESE LEGS
    And about subsidies - it’s strange, like pundits, academics don’t know how to count :) the population of the same Chechnya is much higher than the population of Kamchatka or Sakhalin or Magadan))) therefore give out 60 thousand per ten people or 10 thousand per thousand people - so to whom more subsidies? all the same, probably, the North Caucasus Federal District)))))) Well, like in the movies - I have a friend, an academician, he has three education classes ....
  11. erased
    erased 15 January 2013 09: 41 New
    17
    It is interesting, but how did the real Power, that is, the Stalinist Government, react to what has happened in Chechnya since 1992, or what is happening now in Dagestan, Kabardino-Balkaria? How many fighters and mercenaries would have managed to fight under the banner of the wolf, would many have killed people? They blew up houses, plundered, took hostages, including babies?
    Or were they "convinced" and "re-educated" in the shortest possible time?
    And how many Steel would allow such shows with shooting in Moscow, with the lawlessness of Caucasians and their complete invulnerability?
    That's interesting, huh?
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 January 2013 10: 12 New
      +6
      Everything is simple - with that guidance this principle could not be ...
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 15 January 2013 10: 21 New
      +6
      erased
      Quote: erased
      How many would have managed to fight

      We wouldn’t even have time to think about it ...

      "The trailer will move, peron will remain... ".
      And then it’s not up to thoughts ...
    3. donchepano
      donchepano 15 January 2013 10: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: erased
      And how many Steel would allow such shows with shooting in Moscow, with the lawlessness of Caucasians and their complete invulnerability?


      So this situation is beneficial to the country's leadership.
      But why?
      1. Byordovvv1
        Byordovvv1 15 January 2013 10: 52 New
        +3
        It was beneficial gang drunkards Bori.
      2. valerei
        valerei 15 January 2013 12: 34 New
        +1
        Donchepano, answers to the question "why?" in the internet a lot. And if you put everything together, you get the following: Russia is weak, corruption is total, all over the territory and along and across and in depth and in height. Money is required to maintain the country, not the sea, but the ocean! And then there's the war with the Caucasus, because putting things in order without a war will not work. Too many weapons have been collected in the Caucasus and they are not afraid to have them, despite the law. War will cost more than regular tribute.
    4. vyatom
      vyatom 15 January 2013 11: 12 New
      -1
      Then everyone inherited from Comrade Stalin. No need to generalize.
    5. volcano
      volcano 15 January 2013 14: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: erased
      That's interesting, huh?

      Not interested
      The answer is known.
      At 24 o’clock Moscow would have been cleared, Chechnya, Dagestan and other things to Kolyma, Magadan and Yakutia.
      Let them show "their Caucasian pride" there. And White Bear does not care what kind of meat to eat ... Caucasian cuisine, so to speak ... non-Caucasian wink
  12. VNM
    VNM 15 January 2013 09: 56 New
    +4
    Some kind of meager article! In addition to comparing deductions by regions of the Russian Federation, you can find out without getting up from a chair.

    What else was compared, what polls were conducted and what were the results, etc.?

    The Caucasus is still not going anywhere from the Russian Federation and let Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the Anglo-Saxons do not hope (although they have already swelled enough money into a split :-)
  13. Ustas
    Ustas 15 January 2013 10: 04 New
    +3
    For Ingushetia - 12,9 thousand rubles per person, for the Kamchatka region - more than 65 thousand rubles per inhabitant, for the Magadan region - 52,7 thousand, for Yakutia - 41,3 thousand, for the Republic of Tyva - 28,6 thousand, for Chechnya - a little over 10,2 thousand rubles.

    Here I compared .. with a finger, north and south. So in the north, the Far East just would not freeze, you need to spend so much dough on clothes. I’m not talking about products that don’t want to grow in the vast expanses of the north, and to bring them so much they need to be rolled off so that all these huge numbers of rubles per person seem like a miserable handicap, unlike the numbers per person in the North Caucasus Federal District.
    PS: In the south and in shorts you can walk all year :))))
  14. Burbur
    Burbur 15 January 2013 10: 07 New
    +1
    Well, who needs such "one-day monographs"?
    The Caucasus wants or does not want, but who cares, except for the enemies of Russia?
  15. avt
    avt 15 January 2013 10: 08 New
    +4
    The title of the article is very promising; I expected more statistics and, if possible, methods for obtaining thereof, however ............ request
  16. WITHOUT
    WITHOUT 15 January 2013 10: 22 New
    +4
    yeah, the hfinasovy river current shallows so quickly over the Caucasus by the knives, remember how our brother in 1995 ,, lamb cut
    1. atalef
      atalef 15 January 2013 13: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: zonder
      yeah, the hfinasovy river current shallows so quickly over the Caucasus by the knives, remember how our brother in 1995 ,, lamb cut

      In general, the situation when one Hero of Russia (Kadyrov, or rather his special forces) kills another Hero of Russia in the center of the capital (GRU special forces colonel Yamadayev) and the Russian IC does not itch and do not care for everyone (I don’t protect them with their clan showdowns) just attitude to them (to their ranks and positions) as if they were not Russian citizens at all.
  17. nic
    nic 15 January 2013 10: 27 New
    +8
    Article-water, no specifics, no reference to the monograph, or where you can read it.
    But the Stavropol Territory is a pity, as local Russians say: they sold us to the Caucasus, as they laid the serfs.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 15 January 2013 10: 45 New
      +3
      That is just so, at first there was bewilderment and even rumors crept that the western and southwestern parts would be connected to the Krasnodar Territory because industry was mainly concentrated here, but no more than rumors. And really, over the past couple of years, well, just a lot of representatives of local peoples appeared in the city, which was not previously noted. Butch rose in the city, the cops were caught by the Feysof, in a couple of days he didn’t see a single representative on the streets, and on NG in general there was such silence and peace. They can vet when they want ...
  18. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 15 January 2013 10: 28 New
    +2
    Question to experts (c) wink
    How many times will subsidies decrease and will this issue (article title) be relevant after the end of the Sochi Olympics?
  19. Asgard
    Asgard 15 January 2013 10: 31 New
    17
    The article put a minus (for the first time on this site))

    Why? This and similar "opuses" fool the people, cover up the true goals by diverting the readers' attention to other incomparable factors and conditions ...
    It is compared by per capita payments, excluding the area of ​​the territories being compared and the effectiveness of the invested funds. If Primorye, Yakutia, they beat off grandmothers (gold, diamonds, fish, forest ... etc.)), then we simply feed the Caucasus, oil from Chechnya does not cover even half of the funds. In addition, the nature of spending federal funds in Russian cities is an investment in building enterprises, developing deposits, infrastructure and only a small part of targeted support for the population, then the picture is different in the Caucasus - basically money is being stolen (the elites are bought from the militants)) since there is no report on the effectiveness of investments (and no one requires)) The mosque in Grozny was built with federal money and they were not included in the amount of subsidies - the federal program for restoring something there, I don’t remember (I have to dig)) those numbers and comparisons with the Russian regions - to put it mildly, a lie, it all depends on who and how it considers ........
    You probably read all sorts of ratings, where we are the largest and richest country in the world with Culture and Good People, in the negative lists we are the first, in the positive, the last .....
    WHO and HOW ...... this article is from the same breed. They are trying to program us and to convince that everything is not bad, they say Caucasians live worse than the inhabitants of Primorye ....

    But then we see that tribute is paid there ......
    1. Murai
      Murai 15 January 2013 12: 03 New
      -3
      Quote: Asgard
      We simply feed the Caucasus, oil from Chechnya does not cover even half of the funds.

      Quote: Asgard
      But then we see that tribute is paid there ......




      Quote: Asgard
      In addition, the nature of spending federal funds in Russian cities is an investment in the construction of enterprises, field development, infrastructure and only a small part of targeted support of the population, then the picture is different in the Caucasus


      1. Asgard
        Asgard 15 January 2013 12: 41 New
        +8
        That's what I wrote about who (the nightingale Jew)) and HOW (liquid media)) considers ....
        Listen to Solovyov, do you agree with him that Russian President Yeltsin started a war in the Caucasus ..... About the Russian city of Grozny, it sounds funny in his mouth .... he distinguishes between taxpayer money and budget revenues from the sale of hydrocarbons and on this basis we are told-no need to shout-Stop feeding the Caucasus ......
        And no one is against it, People just came up with a syllable (they are fools)) but the people are wise and see the lies of the Judas, who drive the loot into offshores, the FRS, to the Caucasus, create battalions "Vostok" from militants and spread rot the Berd brigade of the GRU ...

        but this will not save Judah, jackals for money must be destroyed, they have no place in HUMAN society ......
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 15 January 2013 18: 56 New
          +4
          Asgard,
          The West organized a massacre in Chechnya, and Yeltsin fulfilled his miserable role for the West.
    2. donchepano
      donchepano 15 January 2013 12: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Asgard
      But then we see that tribute is paid there ......


      It turns out the Chechens have won the right to a better life than the rest
  20. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 15 January 2013 10: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: Asgard
    But then we see that tribute is paid there ......

    That's right... sad
  21. dark_65
    dark_65 15 January 2013 10: 44 New
    +1
    Gentlemen, comrades, what do we want from the feudal mentality? They have not yet grown out of it ...
  22. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 15 January 2013 10: 51 New
    +8
    The question is not whether they pay the Caucasus or not, the question is that the authorities are unable to restore order even in central Russia, in Siberia, corruption is ruining the country.
  23. rosomax
    rosomax 15 January 2013 10: 59 New
    +4
    Can you imagine what will happen if we say tomorrow they will get independence ?! So they will cut each other's throats for a week.
    how many clans, nationalities are there ....?! and everyone will rush to power!
    only in degestan they speak 23 languages ​​and 73 dialects !!!
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 11: 31 New
      +1
      Need you and really will be sorry ..?
    2. rapid1934
      rapid1934 15 January 2013 18: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: rosomax
      So they’ll cut each other’s throats for themselves in a week

      Then I am for giving them independence. good
      In this case, it is necessary to create a rigid, impenetrable border with them, so that they would not come to us. Unfortunately, this recipe could have worked 15-20 years ago. And now they have already made their Caucasus from the capital thanks to Luzhkov and other bribe takers.
      At home they poison cockroaches as soon as they see at least one and they do it all the time. If you stop using dichlorvos, they appear again.
  24. Tersky
    Tersky 15 January 2013 11: 00 New
    +6
    Quote: vladsolo56
    the question is that the government is unable to restore order even in central Russia, in Siberia

    Good health, Vladimir! The authorities cannot restore order in the government itself, what about the order in the regions ...
    1. vyatom
      vyatom 15 January 2013 11: 14 New
      +1
      That's for sure. The story with Serdyukov is worth it.
  25. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 11: 08 New
    +1
    the peoples of the North Caucasus not only do not want to distance themselves from the rest of Russia, but also want the integration of the North Caucasus Federal District and other Russian regions to be more active
    - they only ask us for fun, so that it would seem to us that we are deciding something, and we can determine our fate.
    I don't understand why only the Caucasus is "asked" whether they want to or not. I think we need to ask the rest of Russia, too, about the advisability of keeping the Caucasus within Russia. In my opinion, the Russians should vote for the separation of the Caucasus, fairly set the borders, leave the area where the Volga flows from the Caspian Sea, build a dense chain of bunkers with a wide mine strip on the border, organize a checkpoint and finally get rid of the eternal plague of Russia. I honestly don't understand why Russia doesn't do that.
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 12: 11 New
      0
      Friends, why are you silent ..?
    2. sergey32
      sergey32 15 January 2013 12: 15 New
      +3
      DAGESTAN333,
      I understand your grudge against our statements, but offer your version of the solution to the problem so that no one, not only the Caucasus, but the whole of Russia will not be offended.
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 12: 53 New
        0
        I believe that the friendship of peoples does not make anyone laugh here .. for starters ... Based on mercantile considerations, Sergey, the rest of the Russians are not honest with us or with themselves, posing as beggars. Solution to the problem? - she really is not!
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 15 January 2013 13: 41 New
          +6
          There are no insoluble problems, there are people who do not solve them. I think you need to start with our children. You know what I tell my son what my father never told me. I say, go do karate, you will join the army, and there the dagis who will try to humiliate you, you must be stronger than them. So he is trying. Daughters forced to do martial arts. The eldest is already a CCM, once she had to fight in a camp at sea with a young dzhigit, who pestered her. Do you think I like this situation? And what remains to be done, you look at what your young countrymen are doing in our cities. I understand that you cannot be responsible for all, but you need to take some steps, and let them be towards you.
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 14: 01 New
            +4
            And my father taught me not to beat me without significant guilt, but that was until the age of 91, after that there was a directive - to adequately respond to the world, with elements of preventing threats. When they grow up, I will instill justice in my boys in spite of everything, and not the fashionable (but actually an excuse) now - "the world is bad and you be so"
        2. Mairos
          Mairos 15 January 2013 19: 05 New
          +1
          Did you just offer mines and bunkers above ... or didn’t I understand something?
        3. Che
          Che 16 January 2013 07: 57 New
          +2
          DAGESTAN333,
          The friendship of peoples was under the Union. Now it is zealously destroyed. You just need to respect each other as a person. Religion is not the most important thing in relationships between people. Priests and mullahs are simply obliged to conduct educational and explanatory work among fellow citizens.
          1. Mairos
            Mairos 16 January 2013 13: 43 New
            +2
            I agree! And about religion too, but .. !! Only mutually. And then I once burned so many nerves from problems in my company, where the guys from the North Caucasus served (I commanded that company). Applications like "Let the Russians wash the toilet, and I'm a man !!" I still remember. And after all, the authorities did not allow criminal cases to be opened for refusing to comply with the commander's order. They said, "Bring up, Comrade Senior Lieutenant!" And to bring up such a person can only be stupidly by force, and at the same time, the first thing brought up to the political officer complained (man!).
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 16 January 2013 17: 01 New
              +3
              Mairos,
              Fathers commanders mean shit were. We got a couple of criminal cases, the guys stayed, and normally everyone plowed like men.
    3. tambourine 2012
      tambourine 2012 15 January 2013 12: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
      In my opinion, Russians should vote for the separation of the Caucasus, fairly draw borders, leave the area where the Volga flows from the Caspian Sea, build a dense chain of pillboxes with a wide mine strip on the border, organize a checkpoint and finally get rid of Russia's eternal ulcer. I honestly do not understand why Russia does not do this.
      What's the point? separated from Central Asia and what did they get? Moskvabad from the Caucasus will separate and get St. Petersburg? Probably you just need to clean up and start from Moscow
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 12: 41 New
        0
        Well .. there are no minefields on the border of the Central Asian republics .. so the experiment is not valid ... You will not have any dietary supplements and YURTs, dear tambourine 2012.
    4. valerei
      valerei 15 January 2013 12: 46 New
      +2
      In order to separate the Caucasus without any special consequences for Russia, it is necessary first to make regions out of all the other republics, redraw the entire territorial division of Russia so that not one border coincides. And then we have republics that dogs are uncut and each has its own khan. Try to take power from him - it will be a civil war.
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 13: 05 New
        0
        Civil war is when citizens of one state fight. And you will sit on your land and watch how we fight with each other from satellites. I’m serious, if you strengthen your border, you should have no problems. And we’ll sort of sort things out among ourselves, we’re not the first time.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 15 January 2013 13: 09 New
          +2
          May I ask a question that worries me very much? What will happen to the Russians? They are not really waiting for us in central Russia. And here I was born, here my ancestors were born and I also consider my home ... Well, of course you can dump in Krasnodar, but I don’t want to leave here, I love the Caucasus ...
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 13: 43 New
            0
            The question is very difficult for me. I suppose it will be more difficult for you after leaving Russia, there will certainly be many people who wish to harm you. More precisely, I can say about Dagestan - if you have local friends here, then you (most likely) will not be abandoned. But if you, for example, accept Islam, then no one will ever dare harm you at all. But in the worst case, you can grow up in the village, here you will be helped to build a house, and they will help to manage the economy.
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 15 January 2013 14: 00 New
              +2
              Well, we have a family of working intelligentsia, I don’t show any enthusiasm for the village, I work in IT, my parents are engineers. Will industry need IC? Or is everything in the village?

              You can not answer, I know very well ... Nobody will help us here except ourselves! And we have no one to hope for. Therefore, the Russians are likely to leave here and then a constant endless struggle will begin for the power and supremacy of any of the peoples. So there will be no peace for a very long time ...

              Well, as for the Stavropol Territory, do not have illusions, in its current form no one will give it for sure, and then it will be seen where the steering wheel will turn. In any case, the separation of the Caucasus from Russia is now not possible for many reasons and prerequisites for how no one would like, no, and is not expected ... Well, my opinion is composed of my impressions ...
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 14: 16 New
                0
                Most likely you are right about the Russian population. Intelligentsia and engineers in the country of barbarians will have nothing to do ... although not a fact.
                1. klimpopov
                  klimpopov 15 January 2013 14: 17 New
                  +1
                  Well, I did not talk about the country of barbarians, I just do not see myself in an Islamic state with all the consequences.
                  1. DAGESTAN333
                    DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 14: 47 New
                    +2
                    An Islamic state is not necessarily a barbaric state. But the Caucasus will not be far from an Islamic state.
                    1. klimpopov
                      klimpopov 15 January 2013 16: 37 New
                      0
                      Again, they didn’t understand me, and I’m saying that the Caucasus will turn towards the creation of a Sharia state, well, or will strive for this, and I love beer ... And = I don’t put it between the barbaric and Islamic ...
                      1. DAGESTAN333
                        DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 19: 22 New
                        +1
                        Okay, now I get it. And beer, a harmful and absolutely unnecessary drink to the body.
            2. atalef
              atalef 15 January 2013 14: 03 New
              0
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              But if you accept Islam, for example, then no one will ever dare harm you.

              What about the Christians? Jews? Buddhists or just atheists?
              Is Islam in Dagestan a protection certificate for all occasions?
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 14: 27 New
                +1
                No, not a security certificate. Muslims in Dagestan will do everything to protect their brothers in faith from adversity. This does not mean that the rest should be "extinguished". But to admit, such a contingent is also present.
        2. atalef
          atalef 15 January 2013 14: 00 New
          0
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          I’m serious, if you strengthen your border, you should have no problems. And we’ll sort of sort things out among ourselves, this is not the first time for us.

          That is, you are hinting that if it weren’t for Russia, you would have solved your problems long ago. And separation from Russia is the desire of a large number of residents of the North. Caucasus?
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 15 January 2013 14: 34 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            That is, you are hinting that if it weren’t for Russia, you would have solved your problems a long time ago.
            - No, I didn’t hint at it, did not speak, and did not mean it.

            Quote: atalef
            And separation from Russia is the desire of a large number of residents of the North. Caucasus?
            - No, most likely not.
    5. Sandov
      Sandov 15 January 2013 18: 59 New
      +3
      DAGESTAN333,
      The Caucasus forever with Russia, it was and will be so. The West does not achieve its goals as in Syria.
    6. Che
      Che 16 January 2013 07: 51 New
      +3
      DAGESTAN333,
      It is time to be more tolerant of each other in matters of religion. All these differences are created and strengthened by our eternal enemies. Shame the peoples of Russia and tear it apart as they want. God is one. The rest is crap.
  26. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 15 January 2013 11: 19 New
    +4
    For me, it’s not a question of whether it’s worth feeding and dying, but is it worth feeding the EU and the USA, we won’t feed this breakthrough even if all the republics are in Russia and stop living, Georgia has ceased to feed for a long time, the truth has become steeper !!! ?
  27. djon3volta
    djon3volta 15 January 2013 13: 45 New
    +1
    guys, but I think your idol is these guys fool
    1. Bekzat
      Bekzat 15 January 2013 13: 57 New
      +1
      EUGENE, WHO IS THIS? SORRY ME, I LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, IN THE FACES OF SOME "HEROES" I DO NOT KNOW.
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 15 January 2013 14: 28 New
        +1
        One of them, Navalny, is the one who used to tear his throat at rallies with the slogans "Enough to feed the Caucasus". Why doesn't he go to Chechnya and unfurl a poster "ENOUGH TO FEED THE CAUCASUS" right in the center of Grozno, why do you think? wassat I know why he does not come to Grozny with such a slogan, do you want to say what will happen to him there? laughing
        1. Bekzat
          Bekzat 15 January 2013 18: 49 New
          0
          Plus to you Dear !!!
  28. wax
    wax 15 January 2013 13: 52 New
    +1
    From the point of view of maintaining and strengthening statehood, the most correct national policy was Stalinist.
    1. Bekzat
      Bekzat 15 January 2013 14: 01 New
      +4
      FOR VAKSA, THE STALIN POLICY WAS REALLY RIGHT, MAY BE TOO RADICAL AND HARD, BUT RIGHT !!!
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 15 January 2013 16: 03 New
        +1
        Bekzat,
        Radical + hard = forced, there was no time to be loyal hi
  29. Magadan
    Magadan 15 January 2013 14: 24 New
    +5
    Grants to the Magadan region 52 thousand per person ???? Get fucked !!! Where is the money? Is it even if we all lounged, then we, including infants, would have received 52 thousand rubles? And the average in Magadan is somewhere around 40-45 thousand .... per working man. Women have less.
    I believe the author, but, damn it, we only produce more than 20 tons of gold. Plus a bunch of fish. Plus 200 tons of silver! I don’t see any special construction projects. The roads are just patching. I pay communal services at 8 thousand a month, that is, there are hardly any subsidies there. In terms of sq.m, approximately in Alaska it will be approximately.
    What the hell is going on! EEEA CHINUSHI WHERE DOES BABLE !!! ???
    In my opinion, it’s time for our bureaucrats to put it in the public domain for a long time where they spend people's money! Every damn project! With all the layouts for the expense items of each project! They would quickly be taken to clean water!
    Ohrenet, 52 thousand rubles for each Magadan !!!!!
    1. Volodin
      15 January 2013 15: 18 New
      +1
      Magadan, then - statistics, and in addition also for the year, and not for the month. winked And here (and not only here) we often have a whole Mariana Trench between statistics and reality ...
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 15 January 2013 16: 16 New
      +4
      The same can be said about any region and the Caucasus is no exception. I am sure that in any region of Russia ordinary citizens do not see the bulk of the allocated funds, including in the Caucasus.
      After reading most of the comments, only one conclusion can be drawn, the bulk were written by people who only saw the Caucasus on television and firmly believe in what they say on the zombies. For all regions I will not write, I will write about Ingushetia. Yes, money is allocated from the budget. Apparently a lot of money, no one argues with this. But, in the republic, oil is extracted in two regions, albeit not in such quantities as in Siberia, for example, but still money goes back to Moscow. And they go there, since it is not the Ingush oil companies that are developing the fields. In addition, there are deposits of natural gas, marble, dolomites, mineral waters. In addition, fresh water reserves.
      Now about the sad, no jobs. As someone wrote right here, all the troubles of inaction. When Zyazikov was president, he reported on the launch of something like 80 plants belay asked where are they? There are no factories, according to the logic of things, since he reported that money was written off for it, since money was written off and there are no factories, then someone has money in his pocket. It would be naive to suppose that the inhabitants of Ingushetia saw this brotherly money for everyone. and all this goes on. The picture is the same as throughout Russia, a handful of officials who have sucked at the feeding trough live well, and the rest of the population is waiting for their conscience to appear or their appetites to decrease slightly. Personally, my opinion is that there will be employment of the population, there will be national policy, there will be no time and desire for the population to take up arms and leave for the forest.
      Now about the Russians. I live in the Stavropol Territory for about 25 years. Many refugees from Chechnya came here before and during the war. Only from units can you hear that all animals are Chechen, it is not possible to live with them, and so on. The reasonable question then is, why do those people who suffered the most do not put everyone under one comb, and someone else screams most of all that the Russians were oppressed, scoffed, etc.? Yes, there were cases of bullying, no one argues. There were those who behaved and now behave inappropriately both within the republics and those who travel to other regions from the Caucasus, but this does not mean that all of them are. It seems to me that it is necessary to look for points of interaction, friendship, help, some further development, than to wind up ourselves with some sort of slogans both on the one hand and on the other.
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 15 January 2013 16: 41 New
        +2
        Very correct! And the fact that I and the Dagestan333 entered into polemics is what we fantasize about and wanted to know his opinion. Although if we take the KCR, the population over the past year has decreased due to the outflow of Russians to the Stavropol Territory - a fact. But here the complex and certain embossments take place there, but mainly of course due to the lack of jobs and employment.
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 15 January 2013 16: 54 New
          +2
          By the way, about tourism here someone also argued with you, such as what kind of tourism in the Caucasus. A few years ago I was in the KCR in a sanatorium, although this was in the summer there were quite a lot of vacationers there, and from all over Russia. What can we say then about the winter period when ski slopes work, etc. By the way, three tourists from Norway were traveling with me on the bus) They said that they really liked it and would definitely come again. So who will say that tourism in the Caucasus is nonsense))
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 15 January 2013 17: 06 New
            +2
            In Arkhyz more French come across, with open mouths go))
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 15 January 2013 17: 32 New
              +3
              I hope everything will work out and the industry will develop there, and in Kislovodsk with the Essentuki, and in the Elbrus region, and possibly sometime in Ingushetia too ... Switzerland was not even close to us by the beauty of places.
  30. Igor
    Igor 15 January 2013 17: 42 New
    0
    Research RAS: Does the North Caucasus want to be part of Russia?


    A strange study, I read the whole article, but for some reason I did not find the answer to the question what
  31. figvamforever
    figvamforever 15 January 2013 17: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Hammer
    The government must and must shape the public opinion of its people, otherwise this opinion will form another government of another country.


    You cannot imagine more servility to yourself.

    The people elect power so that it meets the interests of the people (their opinion), and if it is deaf to popular opinion, the authorities are re-elected or simply expelled!
    1. Black
      Black 15 January 2013 18: 21 New
      0
      Well, it’s you who got excited !!! lol
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 15 January 2013 23: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: figvamforever
      -the power is re-elected or simply kicked out!

      Our power is sacred. Elected - be patient. Endured - re-select again.
  32. Tank720
    Tank720 15 January 2013 18: 27 New
    0
    [quote = Mairos], then we need to build a wall along the Terek and no one will have to send children to fight "in the Caucasus". It will simply be necessary to guard the border efficiently. And it will be the same as Israel in Gaza !!!
  33. homosum20
    homosum20 15 January 2013 18: 31 New
    +2
    When the king conquered the Caucasus, he did not ask anyone if the North Caucasus wanted anything.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 15 January 2013 18: 44 New
      -1
      homosum20

      Quote: homosum20
      he didn’t ask anyone if the North Caucasus wanted anything.


      I agree, their case is veal.
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 15 January 2013 19: 13 New
      +1
      Before the "conquest by the tsar of the Caucasus" the mountaineers attacked everyone around them and hid in the mountains, drove away livestock, and people were either cut or sold into slavery.
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris 15 January 2013 19: 29 New
        +1
        Not really. Before the arrival of the Russians, the Iron Chromiez brought order there.
  34. воронов
    воронов 15 January 2013 19: 11 New
    0
    True land patriots join, not distribute
  35. SA23WSGFG
    SA23WSGFG 15 January 2013 19: 19 New
    -1
    Have you heard the news? The Russian authorities are already insolent in the end. They made this database
    http://guardlink.org/4wQyl1
    where you can find information about any resident of the Baltic countries.
    really was very surprised
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos are different
    character) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 15 January 2013 20: 02 New
      0
      Again viruses propagate .. Do not go there ..
  36. Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping 15 January 2013 19: 57 New
    +1
    There are no real Cossacks sad If only they were and the state supported them, the Caucasus would be peaceful ..
  37. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 15 January 2013 20: 04 New
    +8
    How did the Caucasus live for thousands of years? The Caucasus lived in war. War, robbery and murder ... No, I do not blame the Caucasus for this, because it was not their war. You can’t build a big country there, and the small ones all the time collapsed under blows from different directions. We will not dig, this is a whole historical direction, we just look at the result. Firstly, this situation has shaped people. And secondly, the Russians came and stopped the war.
    Yes, many people are cramped without war and robbery ... but that doesn’t mean that they want them. In Great Russia, there was always where to put hands and soul to anyone, any people and any forces. And to fight for Russia has always been where the rest of the troubled to spend ... and get well-deserved respect and honor, and not hatred at all. What happened?
    But the bad happened - the Russians became wilt... A delusional experiment to build the kingdom of God on earth is only the final of many years and, to our common grief, successful attempts by our power to weaken us. Because you have to be a very strong government to rule real Russians. Strong, smart, honest ... selfless, damn it! And the authorities did not want to strain so much! It was so dreamed that these restless subjects would not be so cool and indomitable ... And so the USSR began to succeed. What happiness! The bureaucrat felt like he was in paradise. The only thing missing was the platinum tureen, "as in the West." And so!!
    Only suddenly (suddenly !!) damn it, it turned out that such a colossus as Russia could not be held by weaklings ... Why am I? The Caucasus does not want to go back at all. To the war. And people there clearly understand - only Russia, all of Russia, which means that, first of all, Russians can recapture a new war from the borders. You look at what is happening ... The behavior of the Caucasians, which is so enraging - in the first place is a rebuke. Because RUSSIAN DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE WEAK! Drunk, stupid, tough ... even wrong. Forgive. But not weak! By the way, this is exactly what infuriates me. Not their behavior. Enrages OUR WEAKNESS ...
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 16 January 2013 13: 51 New
      0
      Emotionally, the cry of the soul. But it is true in many ways! Plusan. )))
  38. makar
    makar 15 January 2013 20: 57 New
    -3
    I trudge with you Russian! you are the titular nation in this country, you are the largest nation in the CIS AND FOR EVERYTHING WITH THIS, YOU ARE FULLY SERIOUS BE AFRAID SOMETHING TO SEND YOU fool
    moskvabad "come in large numbers" uuuuu mammmaaa ugh it's sick to listen to you!
    and know the police in the same Moscow non-Russians do not take!
  39. Bars90
    Bars90 15 January 2013 21: 58 New
    +3
    Interesting article. Probably the most painful topic has been touched. No need to run away from any problems. They need to be resolved ... The North Caucasus, of course, is a problem area, but it is also the territory of our country. The peoples of the SK are wayward and unusual, individual in their own way ... They have their own story. So we can respect our history and the history of the peoples of the UK. If we do not heat up the situation, then everything will be fine. We also knitted them under our wing ...
  40. Colonel
    Colonel 15 January 2013 22: 05 New
    +2
    For the gifted - the Caucasus is not only Chechnya and Dagestan. And it’s not for you to decide whether I live in Russia or not.
  41. CHILD
    CHILD 15 January 2013 23: 10 New
    +2
    I’m reading, and I’m surprised)))) they carry out some social research for the state account, they couldn’t go where to go around Moscow)))) there are a lot of people to ask, others began to calculate subsidies between regions .... meaning? money is equally stolen, and which region to take on the drum ... or maybe the problem is different? Are we either lifting our heads to the top, looking for enemies, or trying to see them downstairs ... but the campaign went off in the middle, local authorities, gentlemen in chairs , with all sorts of icons .... you look at the laws that they pass, we can live by them, by the way !!!! can anyone say something good about their measure? and about the governor ??? the Caucasian problem will serve as a scarecrow for a long time, Of course there are problems with them, and a lot .... but in theory all this is solved at the ATS level))) but no, it is not solved .... then again someone needs this and is profitable !!!! everyone understands that we need a strong power, but where to get it, no one understands .... and I, too .... there will be no Caucasus, they’ll come up with something else, a lot of regions and nationalities)))
  42. Comrade1945
    Comrade1945 16 January 2013 00: 10 New
    0
    Does the North Caucasus want to be an integral part of Russia?


    Hmm ... sorry, nobody asks.
  43. xopek b kacke
    xopek b kacke 16 January 2013 00: 46 New
    +2
    I myself come from the river. Adygea, and believe me, there are few who want to live separately from Russia. And not at all because of subsidies. Here is another.
    I remember how at the beginning of the distant nineties, at the very beginning of the events in Chechnya, "our" President of Adygea at that time, Tov Dzharimov, standing on the central square of Maikop, was broadcasting something like "Let's support the fraternal people of Chechnya."
    So the people did not support him.
    It was later that a special regiment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs was introduced from Moscow (in fact, special forces, just like any fireman).
    I’m all for what: the people then made it clear with whom he was. And the fact that the elites want power (read sovereignty) and more dough, so always has been. This is the special regiment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, compromising materials and God knows what else.
    And there is no need to la-la about "enough to feed the Caucasus" and other nonsense. let’s stop feeding the Caucasus, we’ll start paying someone else, but not in rubles, but in blood! And the one who shouts out such slogans is either a fool or a traitor.
  44. Ussuriets
    Ussuriets 16 January 2013 01: 54 New
    +1
    the title of this material immediately causes a negative .... The Caucasus is the territory of Russia and the point ... there is always rage about the sovereignty of the country, one deshmanic chatter ...
  45. Marconi41
    Marconi41 16 January 2013 02: 05 New
    +3
    It is old to read people who distance the Caucasus from Russia. Most residents of Russia are distrustful of Moscow and Muscovites, so it may be enough to feed Moscow ?! This was not the case in the USSR, but what has changed? Or did the inhabitants of the Caucasus become tougher? What was wrong before? Who served the term in the USSR knows for sure. The Caucasus is part of Russia - the point!
    1. CHILD
      CHILD 16 January 2013 11: 33 New
      0
      Whenever you leave Moscow alone? They also found the promised land for me)))) they don’t do anything right, they only eat your money, huh)))) if you hold a referendum on transferring the capital, at least to St. Petersburg, at least to Uryupinsk I’ll be the first to vote FOR !!!!!! here research institutes, factories and factories are poked in such numbers .... do not pass, do not drive .... yet everyone is breaking into Moscow to conquer)))) I also conquistadors .. ... I think about 20 million. a person in one region, a lot of fun !!!! I’m not talking about fraternal peoples who also ended up here for some reason (thanks to Yuri Mikhailovich) in some areas it’s hard to meet Slavs ......
  46. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 16 January 2013 09: 46 New
    -1
    What the x ... they compared the Caucasus and Kamchatka am Where is the Caucasus and where is the Far East. The same to me mother ikhu researchers, another Blevada Center am
    1. tungus-meteorit
      tungus-meteorit 18 January 2013 01: 22 New
      0
      Not the Caucasus was compared with Kamchatka, but only one small subsidized republic, in which the population is much larger than in Kamchatka. And do not swear. Are you in Kamchatka, too, probably not its native? Is Kamchatka a land of Koryak, not Russian? Although the Russians and other Soviet peoples mastered and rebuilt it. So Kamchatka is common. Like the Caucasus, common to all citizens. We must be united, and when we separate and enmity with each other - in the USA, Israel and Europe they are laughing at us all, as it turns out that we are dancing to their tune. After all, they want the peoples of the former USSR and Russia to cut each other again and more. Then Russia will not be any more and the West will come and simply take everything for free. Salvation of Russia in its unity.
  47. knn54
    knn54 16 January 2013 11: 18 New
    +1
    The order in the Russian Empire was because there were the Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and the Union republics — there were Caucasian and Turkestan governors. A good idea was with the Transcaucasian SSR, but the Georgians ruined everything. There was a chance when it was supposed to make Heydar Aliyev (essentially a Muslim) Predsmin, but Gorbachev suggested to heal ... resembles the situation with Frunze, but without a fatal outcome. Enterprises worked (no offense) when there were Slavic masters, chief engineers and mechanics. And how many Russians are in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB in the North Caucasus .. And the caddies (nepotism), the size of which in Soviet times, were much smaller. This phenomenon permeates all spheres of the national republics of this region and negates the fight against corruption and economic crimes, and with terrorism. How much money has gone to the North Caucasus and what has been done? You need to invest money, but it’s smart in SPECIFIC industries and under strict control. But it turns out that: the ruble-thief stole, the million-economist stole.
  48. VP123
    VP123 16 January 2013 12: 11 New
    +1
    Caucasus we do not feed, we help him
  49. Tartary
    Tartary 16 January 2013 12: 38 New
    +5
    It is probably rude, but excuse me, who will not like it ...
    I read a few comments - all as always.
    The Black-caucasians, we are almost all Russians, which means the Russian elite ...
    I hope no one disputes. that they are Russian (by the way, the word Russian is an adjective (who invented?) ... Which, of course, once again confirms the exclusiveness and special role (which some people don’t know ...) in the history of the peoples of the World ... (!)
    But, the younger "black-assed" brother, looks at the adequate ones, accidentally revealed by him, quite differently than at the general Russian "society" ...
    He (Russian adekvat) respects him on the subcortex for the fact that OH (Russian adequate) is fully consistent with the concept of "OLD BROTHER", but only when he behaves like an older brother, and not a Jewish neighbor with saliva on his lips - all envy of number of banknotes ...
    Question: - where does the money come from?
    Is money the most important thing?
    Do you hear the American, is power in money? - says S. Bodrov in the movie Brother-2.
    In the same place: - "Here and Brother says ......................."
    "No! Power is in Truth!
    And the one who has more of it is right .................... "

    What is there to cling to what the WHO (?) Asked for tolerance?
    By the way, imaginary tolerance for Russians (!) Damn ... Do real Russians need tolerance?

    Correct Russians, and there are more of them than necessary (!) (As some "friends" would like) have long been confidently decided ------------- OUR CAUCASUS !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! And period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Who troubles THERE and what do they want? - - DRUM FOR US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There is a temptation (!) Type: Come ALL and HERE, show us EVERYTHING (!) To us what you are capable of .......... do not be offended that a tube or turban doesn’t fit your head, and your head his extra weight holds ...
    Russians (adjective (!)) Will forgive EVERYTHING, well, or almost ...
    But when the bar really lies .... ....... .......... .......... ... ......... .. ... ..............
    I don't even know where YOU "unreal from love for Russian BROTHERS" can hide ???????



    There is such a simple old ancient Russian parable: - "Do not wake up FAST while it is quiet ...

    So think guys.
    I saw different things and sometimes myself ...
    But, horror as you want, so that it would be for real, and not like this: - "Young man, WE are gussies, do not deceive dgug dguga ..."
    I want the truth (to the degree of "root") ...
    I want a brotherly Love as in the USSR ...
    Dreams of GORTSKH (real guys, which I (and not only) I really know), who respect their own (supposedly "black") or "bright" (they are Russian or Mordovians, or someone else, but the Soviet path), which are in themselves a single, if you want imperial PEOPLE (!), RUSSIAN STATE (!).
    And not a bunch of exfoliated pygmies ...
    The vocabulary is huge, but today I can’t justify everything ...
    The one that is boiling ...
    Damn that BORGE who launched the Great COUNTRY into free swimming!
    Let the slate past of the USSR become the foundation of the future ...
    Amen!
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 16 January 2013 17: 12 New
      +1
      Tartary,
      The villains have been known for a long time - EBN, humpback. who else was in the Bialowieza Forest soared in the bathhouse.
  50. Kubanets
    Kubanets 16 January 2013 15: 14 New
    0
    The trouble is that over the past twenty-odd years, Russia has not been able to or did not want to create what the Bolsheviks did. Namely, the Soviet People community On the contrary, both regional and small-town nationalism have been pulled all these years. Does the Council of Federations, like the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, have a council of nationalities or a council of elders? Bottom line: divide and conquer. All the disorder and vegetation is not in an erroneous political and social formation, but in a neighbor of a different nationality.