Enemy resources publish photos claiming that they allegedly show a Russian MRK "Askold" after the arrival of a SCALP missile in Kerch

Ukrainian telegram channels began to publish footage, the captions of which claim that they show a small missile ship “Askold” significantly damaged by a missile strike from the Ukrainian Armed Forces. We are talking about the MRK of project 22800 “Karakurt”, which was located in Kerch.

Let us recall that earlier the Ukrainian Armed Forces again tried to attack the Crimean Peninsula, including its eastern part. Several missiles fired by the enemy were intercepted by Russian air defense crews. However, the Ukrainian side claims that the strike caused significant damage to one of the Karakurts.

The Kyiv regime is presenting photographs that have appeared online as the result of a hit on a Russian small missile ship. It is alleged that it was attacked using a French-made SCALP cruise missile.

The photo appeared in a number of sources, including the TG channel “Voenkor Kotenok” - and after the same footage was published by Ukrainian resources.

If this photo really shows the Askold of the Russian Navy, hit by a Ukrainian strike, then at least the question arises of how this photo ended up at the disposal of the enemy’s Internet resources. Does this mean that access to the RTO parking site was available to persons who could (can) calmly share data with the Kyiv regime? Or was the leaking of these photos initially carried out by someone who has nothing to do with relations with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but at the same time is not friendly with the concept of “expediency”?

Comments

[Reindeer]

Strictly speaking, not so much; The left side is not torn apart, but damaged. The radar is damaged, that's a fact. It looks like these are indeed fragments, if they were shot down right above the plant.

[bubalik]

It looks like these are indeed fragments, if they were shot down right above the plant.

,,, there are already videos of arrivals on the network.

[Reindeer]

I don’t know, it seems to me that if hit, the scale of destruction would be much greater.

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

In my opinion, the photo actually shows two hits from two missiles. It is impossible to cause such destruction with fragments. In addition, witnesses confirmed that two objects fell in the same place with a short interval. The fragments would fall simultaneously.

[Reindeer]

Well, it depends on what you mean by fragments - for me, in the event of a rocket explosion a hundred meters away, there will be actual fragments (quite large ones). And an undamaged missile, when hit, will destroy everything even more... just then the superstructure behind the waist was blown apart.

[Commissar Kitten]

Or was the leaking of these photos initially carried out by someone who has nothing to do with relations with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but at the same time is not friendly with the concept of “expediency”?

And the expediency lies in not interfering with Konashenkov’s keeping the citizens of the Russian Federation convinced that all the missiles were intercepted by air defense, and fragments fell on the ship? The Ukrainian Armed Forces can see everything perfectly from American drones and optical and infrared reconnaissance satellites.

[Commissar77]

Quote: Commissar Kitten

Or was the leaking of these photos initially carried out by someone who has nothing to do with relations with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but at the same time is not friendly with the concept of “expediency”?

And the expediency lies in not interfering with Konashenkov’s keeping the citizens of the Russian Federation convinced that all the missiles were intercepted by air defense, and fragments fell on the ship? The Ukrainian Armed Forces can see everything perfectly from American drones and optical and infrared reconnaissance satellites.

It would be advisable to write on the VO that they were aiming at the Crimean bridge but missed, and by an unfortunate accident the fragments hit the ship. There was an article on VO a couple of days ago.

[ramzay21]

So why did the Moscow Region lie? Once again they were poked in the face of their own lies.

[sashok1951.21]

And what government structure doesn’t lie?

[Dead duck]

The local administration (of the city) reported on the attack on the port (not only on the bridge) almost on the first day; out of 18 missiles, 15 were shot down.

[Romario_Argo]

we need to return the armor to the ships
armor plate 300 mm made of silicon carbide 1 sq.m. weighs approx. 600-700 kg
equivalent to 1200 mm steel
100 mm steel armor plate 1 sq.m. weighs 730-750 kg

[Escariot]

Quote: ramzay21

So why did the Moscow Region lie? Once again they were poked in the face of their own lies.

If you tell the truth, then no one will go to war at all.

[ramzay21]

If you tell the truth, then no one will go to war at all.

During the Great Patriotic War, the leadership either spoke the truth or remained silent.
But during the Russo-Japanese War and during the First World War they wrote lies. And when did more volunteers go to the front?

[Normaine]

I found several videos from several angles. There is visually only one missile, and traces of air defense operation. video of the explosion - also one hit, and then another detonation, probably a bomb, or something explosive.
One video shows the interception of another object that fell somewhere near the ship. handheld video, and it’s difficult to say exactly what’s what. It’s also difficult to say exactly how many missiles and decoys there are for them.

[UAZ 452]

Ammunition on a ship under construction? Does this happen?

[Myths]

There really is a video, several hits. They filmed it on the phone from the monitor screen, apparently from surveillance cameras. It is necessary to find those who filmed, as well as check those who have access to the cameras.

[Escariot]

Quote from Mitos

There really is a video, several hits. They filmed it on the phone from the monitor screen, apparently from surveillance cameras. It is necessary to find those who filmed, as well as check those who have access to the cameras.

The problem is not in the pictures of arrivals on the ship, but in the fact that the air defense could not prevent this.

[Commissar77]

Quote from Escariot

Quote from Mitos

There really is a video, several hits. They filmed it on the phone from the monitor screen, apparently from surveillance cameras. It is necessary to find those who filmed, as well as check those who have access to the cameras.

The problem is not in the pictures of arrivals on the ship, but in the fact that the air defense could not prevent this.

Come on, there is no video recording, which means there is no arrival. This is how we live. You can always say, what is your evidence?

[Escariot]

Quote: Military Commissar77

Quote from Escariot

Quote from Mitos

There really is a video, several hits. They filmed it on the phone from the monitor screen, apparently from surveillance cameras. It is necessary to find those who filmed, as well as check those who have access to the cameras.

The problem is not in the pictures of arrivals on the ship, but in the fact that the air defense could not prevent this.

Come on, there is no video recording, which means there is no arrival. This is how we live. You can always say, what is your evidence?

Yes, and video recording is Photoshop and filming in the Hollywood pavilion

[Alexey Lantukh]

When an air defense missile hits an enemy missile, the following options are possible: a) they hit and the enemy missile immediately exploded in the air; b) they hit and the enemy missile fell apart and its parts fell without exploding; c) they hit and the enemy missile or part of it changed its trajectory, fell to the ground and exploded, which is what happened in relation to Karakurt. It is clear that the rocket wing itself could not have caused such destruction.

[krot]

There are a lot of waiting people in Crimea... They need to be caught and sent to the front in a penal company.
They directed and filmed the videos!

[alexoff]

They pointed it out from satellites, the ship has been there for a long time. And the video from surveillance cameras, there should be only a couple of suspects who could have leaked

[75 Sergey]

It’s strange, it’s on its way, but they don’t change the parking lot?

[alexoff]

Apparently they didn’t have a war until that day. They've been building it for 7 years, nothing has arrived, and then suddenly

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from alexoff

Apparently they didn’t have a war until that day. They've been building it for 7 years, nothing has arrived, and then suddenly

It is obvious that American or British advisers have worked out attacks on static warships. In Sevastopol for a submarine and a landing craft undergoing repairs, in Kerch for an almost finished MRK Askold. I have a question . Why are ship repair and shipyards not covered by air defense? Wait for a blow to Feodosia? They also build ships there. The Anglo-Saxons almost openly help the Judeo-Ukrains. Reconnaissance, guidance and tracking of targets, supplies of modern missiles, and the personnel servicing missile weapons are also clearly not Ukrainians. Askold was supposed to be commissioned before the new year. The Black Sea Fleet really needed this MRK now. A good project, with the Pantsir M air defense system. Now what? ... Never mind . There are worthy goals in Svidoukraine. This is a military-political leadership consisting of the Anglo-Saxons and the Ukrainian dolls led by them. I am sure that their bunkers are known, it is known where advisers, curators, and various military personnel from the states and Britain sit. Which, in fact, are leading the unfortunate Ukraine. It's time to destroy them. This is a legitimate goal. Or has Russia run out of vaunted Daggers? Or is there no will to Victory? That's not how they fight!

[AC130 Gunship]

It is simply physically impossible to close all objects. They don't have that many air defense systems

[SovAr238A]

Quote: AC130 Ganship

It is simply physically impossible to close all objects. They don't have that many air defense systems

But what about the pre-war cries about our impenetrable, multi-layered air defense?
There were so many specialists here explaining to us that not even a fly could fly past...

[faiver]

seven years old ship of less than a thousand tons displacement? hmm....

[-Paul-]

So it’s being completed, where will it go from the factory?

[Puzoter]

It seemed to be in dry dock for repairs.

[cpls22]

The night shot is clearly not from a surveillance camera. In addition to direct intent, m.b. Another option for hacking a smartphone. The man couldn’t resist, he took it “for himself,” or for a report to his superiors, and he downloaded the photo from someone else, via Wi-Fi, standing next to him on the bus. Nowadays it is recommended not to run official business through apple products, but inertia is a strong thing.

[Idunavs]

Quote: krot

There are many waiting people in Crimea.

And not only in Crimea, under the guise of refugees, whoever came to Russia was the Waiters and others, etc. There are enough freaks among their own who are ready to sell themselves for “30 pieces of silver.”

[alexoff]

We have half a ruble worth of open and unashamed waiters. For some reason, no one can imagine that somewhere in the mansion of some Pugacheva there cannot be a meeting of enemy spies; for some reason it can only be the poor. But for some reason the rich people who openly throw mud at their native country cannot

[your1970]

Quote from alexoff

But for some reason the rich people who openly throw mud at their native country cannot

They cannot - due to the fact that spies/saboteurs cannot, by virtue of their profession, wring their hands “I cannot live in a country at war with its neighbors!!”
And yes, poor, much less noticeable people are the most optimal for espionage purposes - no one runs after them with a microphone “Alla Borisovna, how did you eat/poop today???!!”

[alexoff]

The spies know that Borisovna or Fridman will not be checked, and you never know who left the mansion in a tinted car. Abramovich took out Azov residents on his plane; surely he couldn’t have brought some of them to Moscow on a private flight?

[your1970]

Quote from alexoff

Spies know that Borisovna or Fridman will not be checked

The spies know very well what's going on at this level COMPETITORS they graze everyone in a way that no security forces could ever dream of. Taking away and dividing, and if you are lucky, imprisoning a competitor is a nice thing.
Business - nothing personal...
"MOST" listened to and wrote about all the oligarchs in those days - when Senao and Harvests were still in fashion...

[Bayun]

Borders, visas, sanctions, etc. - not an obstacle for the truly powerful. These can be delivered by transport boards and container ships that и whom whatever, where whatever. This is the reality of the global online world.

National states are a relic. The battle is over whether there will be a Union of States or a Hegemony; or the confrontation between the Union and Hegemony. I think the latter is the most likely.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: your1970

And yes, poor, much less noticeable people are the most optimal for espionage purposes - no one runs after them with a microphone “Alla Borisovna, how did you eat/poop today???!!”

Besides, Alla Borisovna will wring her hands and calm down. She won’t go and set fire to a transformer box for ten kilo rubles.
Therefore, your truth is that in a marginal environment, black soil is unplowed for enemy agents. Plow up - there is no SMERSH...

[jdiver]

their home country is somewhere else. here they only feed

[Vadim S]

So it is, there are those who scratch their fists, but for now I’m keeping quiet, these are the dangerous ones.

[Defender 9993]

That’s why there’s no need to be ashamed of getting caught as an “informer” when you see a terry banderlozhy asshole - save your homeland from the freaks. If these jackals and they are allowed to grow here, the khan will be ruined for your descendants.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Idunawa

Quote: krot

There are many waiting people in Crimea.

And not only in Crimea, under the guise of refugees, whoever came to Russia was the Waiters and others, etc. There are enough freaks among their own who are ready to sell themselves for “30 pieces of silver.”

Stop pointing at the waiting people in Crimea and Novorossiya. IN
Old Russia is full of traitors. Maybe all your Chubais are also from Novorossiya and Crimea? Maybe new Russian citizens were also looking for Jews at the Dagestan airport? . Or are there honest and decent people among the millions of migrants brought by the authorities to all kinds of construction sites and factories? In St. Petersburg, how many people are waiting? And in Moscow? It's the same thing...

[Stepan S]

It’s easier for the SBU to send steamed turnips to Crimea, and in general to any “welder” plant in Russia; there are not enough workers everywhere. And here is a ready-made spy for you. You don’t even have to worry about implementation - the personnel department will implement it itself. “Brotherly people,” as Vladimir says.

[Lako]

The main thing here is not how many there are, but how counterintelligence works. This is a sensitive enterprise and pictures from it leaked online are definitely the subject of investigation. Although, the stupidity of the Russian special services no longer surprises me.

[Hariton]

Naps do they need them at the front?
For videos, 20 years, not a punishment cell

[Piramidon]

Quote: bubalik

It looks like these are indeed fragments, if they were shot down right above the plant.

,,, there are already videos of arrivals on the network.

This is the result of a thoughtless policy of accepting millions of Ukrainian refugees and guest workers. Potential SBU agents have spread throughout Russia.

[Orange Bigg]

TG channel Rybar.

Combined attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Kerch and Berdyansk
After two consecutive days of Ukrainian drone raids on Crimea, we assumed that this would be followed by a missile attack on targets on the peninsula. And, to our regret, they turned out to be right: today the Ukrainian Armed Forces attacked Kerch.Four Su-24M bombers from the Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye regions launched eight Storm Shadow/SCALP cruise missiles in the direction of Crimea.To distract and overload air defense systems in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters fired several HARM anti-radar missiles and AGM-160 MALD decoys.To intercept, two MiG-31BM fighters took off from Belbek. But at the same time, the Ukrainians launched a diversionary attack on Cape Tarkhankut with a Neptune anti-ship missile, which was shot down by a MiG northwest of the peninsula.At the same time, eight “Storms” along the route through Dneprorudnoye and Pologi flew to the Sea of ​​Azov, where they began to operate from the S-400 complexes and the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system. At the same time, the missiles maneuvered (“snake”), changing their route and altitude.
Six Storm Shadows were shot down by 31 Division 50 km north of the Crimean Bridge and over Kerch. One missile was shot down directly above the Zaliv plant. The shrapnel had previously caused damage to the ship next to the pier (although the footage available on the Internet shows a hit on one of the workshops). Another one fell into the water not far from the plant. After some time, three more “Storms” were launched from the same area, which were successfully shot down over Berdyansk.

https://t.me/rybar/53912

According to the Ukrainian “cart” (Telegram channels), we are talking about a by-product of a missile strike reflected by Russian air defense specifically on the Crimean Bridge. In general, the message of the ukro-adequates is this: what a pothead you need to be if you believe the Ze-team that the purpose of the arrival was specifically “Askold”, and not a neighboring infrastructure facility that is most important for the Russian Federation.

13 missiles out of 15 missiles were shot down by air defense. One missile fell into the water near the plant. Another one damaged the Askold MRK with shrapnel.

On the night of November 5, the Ukrainian Defense Forces sent fifteen of their missiles towards Kerch. The Russian air defense system shot down thirteen of them, but one still reached its target.
“Some of the debris from the downed missiles fell onto the territory of one of the dry docks. There were no casualties. Keep calm and trust only official sources of information,” said the head of Crimea, Sergei Aksenov, after the emergency. And the Russian Ministry of Defense added that a missile still hit the plant. As a result, the ship located here was damaged.

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/393621/

[cold wind]

There are 3 arrivals in the video. On and around the ship. So Rybar is not writing the truth.

[alexoff]

So the fisherman is not much more knowledgeable than us, he monitors the cart and other social networks, they do not report to him from the General Staff

[igorbrsv]

It’s not that we don’t believe it, but we would also like to see the video since it already exists.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Aleksandr_35

video from the Ukrainian cart

Interesting video...I watched it several times, and this is what surprised me: from such a strong kinetic impact, the MRK didn’t even shake! Is this possible in reality??? Or is the hull not on the water, but on keel blocks in a dry dock? And yes - 2 explosions. But the consequences of the second are the scattering of some parts of the structure. And in the photo - the superstructure is torn out and the waist is damaged... It’s somehow strange...
IMHO.

[Escariot]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: Aleksandr_35

video from the Ukrainian cart

Interesting video...I watched it several times, and this is what surprised me: from such a strong kinetic impact, the MRK didn’t even shake! Is this possible in reality??? Or is the hull not on the water, but on keel blocks in a dry dock? And yes - 2 explosions. But the consequences of the second are the scattering of some parts of the structure. And in the photo - the superstructure is torn out and the waist is damaged... It’s somehow strange...
IMHO.

Storms are equipped with a semi-armor-piercing warhead; it will go through the skin of the corvette like a crowbar through shit.

[Normaine]

Explosions were heard in Kerch: a small rocket ship could have been damaged
19:23 - November 4, 2023

text for the search engine, it will return the source with the video.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote from cold wind

There are 3 arrivals in the video. On and around the ship. So Rybar is not writing the truth.

Where are the 3 arrivals? Satellite image.

Images from Western satellites confirm damage to the Project 22800 Karakurt small rocket ship at a shipyard in Kerch. Judging by the photographs, there was no direct hit on the MRK, but it was damaged as a result of a nearby explosion and scattering of debris.

On November 4, the Ukrainian Armed Forces launched a strike with 15 cruise missiles at the shipbuilding plant named after. B.E. Butomy in Kerch. 13 cruise missiles were shot down by air defense systems. As a result of being hit by an enemy cruise missile, a ship located at the plant was damaged, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported.

https://topcor.ru/41031-sputnikovye-snimki-podtverzhdajut-povrezhdenie-voennogo-korablja-v-rezultate-raketnogo-udara-vsu-po-kerchi.html

[Normaine]

https://prnt.sc/-wp5cBta5uTJ
a second before the explosion. then another detonation
https://prnt.sc/iBUGbZJvldlA
and this is the second object, presumably intercepted.
https://prnt.sc/6XzH-4AG96gB с другого ракурса.
https://prnt.sc/FIRYcBiHEAZ- обломки корабля разлетелись.
The key thing is that it was a direct hit, something was shot down. there were at least 2 detonations, the third is in question

[Sergey39]

It seems that not three arrivals, but three times they showed the same moment of video filming.

[Sergey39]

Yuri Podolyak also said that there was an attack on the Crimean Bridge. And, the Karakurt MRK was damaged by fragments from a rocket. This number of missiles per MRK is too luxurious. I assume they are trumpeting about the damage to the ship in order to smooth out the failure of the attack on the bridge.

[Escariot]

Quote: Sergey39

Yuri Podolyak also said that there was an attack on the Crimean Bridge. And, the Karakurt MRK was damaged by fragments from a rocket. This number of missiles per MRK is too luxurious. I assume they are trumpeting about the damage to the ship in order to smooth out the failure of the attack on the bridge.

This is if you count that there were 15 missiles, but if you count that out of all there were three, then it’s quite normal. Karakurt is worth about $100 million.

[Normaine]

that idiot that promised boilers?

[Mikhail Ya2]

Someone else believes him. I remember his arrows at the beginning of the SVO. How many cauldrons did he draw there and how many times did he take Kyiv?

[Pytnik]

You are apparently one of those who, foaming at the mouth, still claims that not two anti-ship missiles flew into the port side of the cruiser "MOSCOW", but there was an internal explosion ... although I also used to believe in unparalleled, etc.

[igorbrsv]

We believe in what we see. The eyes fail, but it’s dangerous to trust the ears

[yaglon]

Flotophiles write, well, you know what... I also believed in the power of something known... And Askold has already been recorded as destroyed on flotophile forums.

[Borik]

It will go into operation in a year.

[Msi]

A small missile ship "Askold" was photographed significantly damaged by a missile strike from the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The main thing is that people didn’t die... And the rest is nonsense. Oil is becoming more expensive, gas is becoming more expensive on world markets. There is a lot of money in the country, and there will be even more. They will repair it... Or they will build a new one. Don't worry the main thing...

[AlOrg]

In 7 years they will build a new one to replace it, but what will you fight with during these 7 years?

[Glagol1]

Judging by the videos that appeared, one missile hit somewhere nearby, but the second was a direct hit. If it had been on the open sea, it would have sunk. If not for write-off, then repairs will take 2-3 years for 3-5 billion. It was supposed to be handed over to the fleet at the end of the month. It’s good that the anti-aircraft gunners shot down some of the missiles, otherwise the entire plant would have been lost. Of course, you can’t shoot down everything, especially when there’s a salvo.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Glagol1

If it had been on the open sea, it would have sunk.

On the open sea, he would bring the anti-ship missile system to the optimum level for PANTSIRYA-M to work on it and there would be no hit, but a “shoot down”.
Secondly, where did you get the idea that ships sink when the superstructure is damaged? They drown when, due to damage below the waterline, the durable hull loses its tightness and the water extinguishes the reserve of buoyancy... There are many examples of this. CR URO Belknap after a collision with an AVU

On November 22, 1975, the cruiser USS Belknap (CG-26) collided with the aircraft carrier USS Kennedy (CV-67) in the Ionian Sea. After the collision, a strong fire started, destroying the ship's setup almost completely.

The ship remained afloat. Or rather, the hull of the ship...

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote from Reindeer

Strictly speaking, not so much; The left side is not torn apart, but damaged.

At a minimum, the entire superstructure of the vessel was damaged.

[Voronezh]

If the photo corresponds to reality, then the damage is very severe. Repair, if it makes sense, will take at least a year.

[Peter1First]

The submarine Rostov and the BDK Minsk also didn’t look like they were torn to pieces... however, the damage is such that they certainly won’t go to sea at least until the end of the current conflict... But the shame for the air defense has increased many times: it’s one thing to receive a low-flying cruise missile from the sea along the western coast where Tarkhankut and Sevastopol are, and it’s another thing to get to Kerch - well, a rocket needs to fly through the entire Crimea undetected, and even 2 at once!

[Escariot]

Quote from: Peter1First

The submarine Rostov and the BDK Minsk also didn’t look like they were torn to pieces... however, the damage is such that they certainly won’t go to sea at least until the end of the current conflict... But the shame for the air defense has increased many times: it’s one thing to receive a low-flying cruise missile from the sea along the western coast where Tarkhankut and Sevastopol are, and it’s another thing to get to Kerch - well, a rocket needs to fly through the entire Crimea undetected, and even 2 at once!

By the way, Minsk surprisingly turned out to be very strong (the Poles knew how to build ships!) because they took it out of the dock and now hang out at the pier and don’t even go to the bottom.

[Prisoner]

What do you want from people who shoot down “Daggers” by the dozens? Some even use a can of tomatoes.

[Old Operator]

Actually, I don’t remember the presence of octagonal radar antennas on Karakurt. There seem to be rectangular ones on the superstructure.

[Igar]

There is such a radar there, precisely octagonal in shape.

[Jose]

We are not fighting suckers, this has long been clear. And Evmenov and many others need to draw conclusions.

[Iris]

Evmenov has no time to draw conclusions. Here, unexpectedly for himself, he found himself at the helm of the entire Navy, and you’re talking about tests...

[igorbrsv]

Not with suckers. And not with Ukrainians
Or rather, not only with them. Let's see. Well, they damaged it if the MRK... Nothing can be done. I hope they fix it

[Butunak]

And what did you think, at least Crimea is densely overrun by their saboteurs and sympathizers, whom the Ukrainians do not hesitate to call - our partisans, and saboteurs are bombarded with packs like the Abwehr did.
I can’t vouch for it, but the fact is close to the truth

[alexoff]

Well, they said that all the missiles were shot down, the fragments of one fell on the plant. Since you have decided to deceive your population, they should at least make sure that the guards at the plant do not post the video on the Internet, much less send it to the Ukrainians. I'm not even talking about the fact that missiles flying according to GPS signals will not be so accurate if you turn on a GPS jammer called field-21

[igorbrsv]

I don’t remember that there was a lie about this information. I don’t even know if the Ministry of Defense has made statements on this matter. For now I only feed on rumors. And they have already managed to “deceive” you.
Personally, I assumed there was a small fire near the tap. There was something small burning nearby in the video. It turned out to be next to Askold. A fire caused by falling debris or a missile hit. It’s difficult to make out the moment of the attack in the video.

[sergey_vakk]

It’s too bad you don’t know. They stated that out of 15, 13 were shot down. True, there are doubts about the number of missiles fired by the Ukrainians, whether the Ministry of Defense embellished

[alexoff]

More false targets were launched ahead; they were most likely counted as missiles

[Normaine]

false targets. The radar doesn't know what's flying; it sees flares. 15 were detected, 2 arrived, which means 13 were successfully shot down. although the video of the air defense operation shows clear traces of the detonation of an air defense missile without consequences. This is like one of the versions of what is actually there - I don’t know, I’m not involved.

[Glagol1]

The video shows falling rockets and flying debris. Look carefully and you will see everything. The Ministry of Defense or the Navy - no one will make any statements; if you want to know the truth, there is the Internet. Just learn to calculate Ukrainian resources, there is a cloud of lies there, but it’s not difficult.

[Escariot]

Quote from alexoff

Well, they said that all the missiles were shot down, the fragments of one fell on the plant. Since you have decided to deceive your population, they should at least make sure that the guards at the plant do not post the video on the Internet, much less send it to the Ukrainians. I'm not even talking about the fact that missiles flying according to GPS signals will not be so accurate if you turn on a GPS jammer called field-21

Shadow Storm works not only using GPS, but also based on readings from visual sensors and an altimeter. A map with images of the intended route is loaded into the guidance system in advance and the rocket compares this image with the camera data.

[igorbrsv]

It turns out like a caliber?

[Escariot]

Quote: igorbrsv

It turns out like a caliber?

Does Caliber have an optical route recognition system? This requires very accurate maps of the area.

[your1970]

Quote from Escariot

Quote: igorbrsv

It turns out like a caliber?

Does Caliber have an optical route recognition system? This requires very accurate maps of the area.

Accurate the cards were sold to the US simultaneously to GSVG, Limitrophe and Georgia in the early 1990s.
Adding satellite images to them - to clarify changes in terrain - is a matter of a couple of days for photogrammetrists of any NATO General Staff, even Romanian

[Defender 9993]

So, are the FSB techies “chewing their bread” in vain?

[yaglon]

Two seemed to be at the pier, and the third definitely arrived.
Along the way the khan's ship.

[Repellent]

I could be wrong, but IMHO - this raid is purely an advertising campaign. What, it became much easier for the “front-line Ukrainians” because they damaged Karakurt? No.

But on the topic of “demanding more money” - this is a completely suitable marketing ploy, proof, so to speak, of the effectiveness of the Khokhlovo army. Something like that

[alexoff]

Quote: Repellent

I could be wrong, but IMHO - this raid is purely an advertising campaign.

https://topwar.ru/229492-zelenskij-poobeschal-moschno-otvetit-na-nochnuju-ataku-40-bespilotnikov-vs-rf-po-ukraine.html
Zelensky promised and did it the day before. And what use do we have from ships as milk from a goat? This is a sad truth, except for occasionally firing calibers from afar, naval commanders don’t know why they are needed

[Repellent]

Quote from alexoff

Zelensky promised and did it the day before

Well, now the money will definitely run to beg

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from alexoff

And what use we have from ships is like milk from a goat, this is the sad truth,

Well, well... This same MRK Askold would very well cover Sevastopol with its air defense system. Small, maneuverable, very successful boat. He went out to sea and covered both Sevastopol and the Crimean Bridge. its air defense. And if necessary, they will launch caliber or zircon missiles at Kuyev... Now the Black Sea Fleet has only a few warships with air defense systems. These are two Grigorovich-class frigates and one MRU Cyclone. And you say. That's why the Republic of Kazakhstan destroyed Moscow because it had a strong air defense system. Our admirals exposed it to attack. Sami!!!

[cold wind]

Yes, it became easier for them. Karakurt was out of action for a very long time, -1 Black Fleet ship, -1 caliber carrier. If the straits are closed, it is very painful.

[Repellent]

Quote from cold wind

Karakurt has been out of action for a very long time

Did you do troubleshooting yourself? My doubts. “Very - not very” - with this to the garden, please.

Quote from cold wind

-1 caliber carrier

And what? Will this make the counterattack immediately successful? Or not?

Advertising. Nonsense advertising. Yes, I feel sorry for Karakurt, but... in general, this does not change the weather. Something like this

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Repellent

Advertising. Nonsense advertising. Yes, I feel sorry for Karakurt, but... in general, this does not change the weather. Something like this

This is time, government money, the strength of workers and engineers, and there is no such thing as an extra fist in a fight.

[helicop-man]

Who is it hurting? Khokhlam? One Karakurt - 8 missiles launched. For Ukrainians, even without this unit it’s a mouthful to cram in)

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

It became much easier, but not at the front, but at the rear. "Askold" - carrier of "Caliber". Naturally, in winter they will try to destroy Ukrainian energy with everything that flies (this time they will also destroy ours). Minus eight missiles in a salvo greatly facilitates the task of interception for Ukrainian air defense (and this may not be our last ship that will be “safely protected” by air defense).

[sepal81]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

It became much easier, but not at the front, but at the rear. "Askold" - carrier of "Caliber". Naturally, in winter they will try to destroy Ukrainian energy with everything that flies (this time they will also destroy ours). Minus eight missiles in a salvo greatly facilitates the task of interception for Ukrainian air defense (and this may not be our last ship that will be “safely protected” by air defense).

are you kidding? the ship has not entered service, that is, it is not yet a combat unit. As far as I remember, the Black Sea Fleet did not practice mass launches of Calibers from all launch vehicles, at most from a few units. And there are more than enough of them (frigates pr. 11356, submarine pr. 636, MRK pr. 21631 and 22800 (Cyclone)

[Repellent]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

Minus eight missiles in a salvo greatly facilitates the task of interception for Ukrainian air defense

Is adding eight imitators to a salvo such a tricky task?

Damn, comments are being deleted, absolutely nothing... funny

[Glagol1]

Cost 22800, rumored to be 10 billion rubles, it took 7 years to build. Here, in one gulp, most likely... And you call this an advertising campaign?

[Sanguinius]

And you call this an advertising campaign?

Why not!?
There's plenty of money, we'll build more!)
PS Sarcasm

[Escariot]

Quote: Repellent

I could be wrong, but IMHO - this raid is purely an advertising campaign. What, it became much easier for the “front-line Ukrainians” because they damaged Karakurt? No.

But on the topic of “demanding more money” - this is a completely suitable marketing ploy, proof, so to speak, of the effectiveness of the Khokhlovo army. Something like that

Perhaps not. The West very carefully uses modern weapons in the Northern Military District. For example, the Ukrainian Armed Forces practically does not attack the “old” regions with Western missiles, although there are good targets there. Perhaps now this is another thick hint from the West that the Crimean Bridge may fall. From the plant to the bridge it is 5-7 kilometers.

[spirit]

I remember the local marshal here assured us that scalps are no longer flying to us because we have AWACS in the sky, saying we’re shooting down everyone) and not realizing that the Ukrainians are simply hoarding them for a one-time salvo. Now he’s surprised

[yaglon]

Don't be surprised, he lives in another world

[Escariot]

Quote: spirit

I remember the local marshal here assured us that scalps are no longer flying to us because we have AWACS in the sky, saying we’re shooting down everyone) and not realizing that the Ukrainians are simply hoarding them for a one-time salvo. Now he’s surprised

Yes, they don’t hoard missiles, but most likely deliver them immediately before an attack for a specific operation. Only before this it is necessary to carry out reconnaissance, plan the operation, create flight maps for missiles, find out the frequencies of air defense to jam them, and prepare aircraft that are not in the best condition.

[forty-eighth]

Only before this it is necessary to carry out reconnaissance, plan the operation, create flight maps for missiles, find out the frequencies of air defense to jam them, and prepare aircraft that are not in the best condition.

What are you saying...
And our loudmouths in the news about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict write that you need to press a button, the rocket will fly out, and the enemy aircraft carrier will bye bye

[alexmach]

Only before this it is necessary to carry out reconnaissance, plan the operation, create flight maps for missiles, find out the frequencies of air defense to jam them, and prepare aircraft that are not in the best condition.

And the most important thing is that all this cannot be done secretly. Before each massive raid, Rybar reports from open sources what objects the NATO satellite constellation was working on, each time a missile strike is preceded by a drone strike - it opens the air defense, and even the take-off of the carriers of these scalps from Starokonstantinov is reported... And still we miss strikes and lose combat units.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: alexmach

the bearers of these scalps are reported to take off from Starokonstantinov... And still we miss attacks and lose combat units.

And this is because the MiG-31BM stopped working as an interceptor fighter, with duty at the airfield and in the air (if necessary). We have him more and more in the “K” version with Daggers flying over the World Cup, looking out for the Yankees’ AVU on behalf of the GDP. But it would be better to get down to business, and to implement the bad fantasies of the GlavKomVerkh... There would be more benefits for the business.
And then, where is the S-350 Vityaz made specifically for the CRBD!? Aw! Come out and show what you can do! After all, you were specially created for this... (And in response - silence!)))).
It’s all sad somehow: the propaganda is pissing with boiling water, but in reality it’s still the same private Ivanov and his comrades - Petrov and Sidorov - (three epic heroes, damn it!) with an AKM in their hands on the LBS, crumbling dill, and the marshals with the generals “from the army” is not able to organize normal air defense of the most important infrastructure facilities, which are the Crimean shipyards...
AHA.

[Anatoly Vertinsky]

It turns out that Russia will indeed be left without a Black Sea Fleet by the end of the war

[Butunak]

This is what I'm afraid of. Disgrace from the enemy, who had only a mosquito fleet, and like hell the sofas were hitting and dancing in the chest. In short, something needs to be done

[Anatoly Vertinsky]

The Ukrainians are doing a good job, they created scalp missiles, storm shadows and other weapons. An amazing country that alone successfully confronts a state much stronger than itself.

[26rus]

What did they create? Storms and Scalps ? And they also built the Death Star, and alone? Need to have a snack

[Glagol1]

The snack is over, lard, potato pancakes, that’s it, nothing. So he went on air in the heat of the moment. About the amazing country. That she amazes everyone around her.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Anatoly Vertinsky

Ukrainians work well

Quote: Anatoly Vertinsky

created scalp missiles, storm-shadow and other weapons. An amazing country that alone successfully confronts a state much stronger than itself.

Tolik!! Aw!!! Wake up!!! Otherwise you'll pee yourself!!!!

[invisible_man]

The Ukrainians are doing a good job, they created scalp missiles, storm shadows and other weapons.

I think it was sarcasm.

[Huarabey]

A new word has appeared in the training manuals - “urya sofas”? Do you think it's creative?

[Vadim S]

More than likely, by the way, at this rate it’s not difficult to calculate everything

[pettabyte]

Strictly speaking, this is such a “break”, even if that’s the case.
Another thing is that one would have to live in Kyiv.

[Butunak]

We'll starve, but if we continue to lose our fleet with alarming frequency, then that's it.

[alexoff]

What's the cover? In this war, the fleet is of no use, it only consumes diesel fuel in vain, and calibers can be launched from the Caspian Sea

[invisible_man]

In this war the fleet is of no use,

Which one was positive? Seriously. To the Russian-Japanese? In the First World War? During the Great Patriotic War?

[Escariot]

Quote from invisible_man

In this war the fleet is of no use,

Which one was positive? Seriously. To the Russian-Japanese? In the First World War? During the Great Patriotic War?

In WWII, the Black Sea Fleet was able to drive Yavruz into the Sea of ​​Marble and secured the sea flank; in WWII, the Black Sea Fleet dominated the Black Sea and secured the sea flank.
In the Northern Military District, the only meaningful action was the landing in Berdyansk

[invisible_man]

The WWII Black Sea Fleet dominated the Black Sea and provided the sea flank.

Just look at where the Germans were before the spring of 1944. “Dominated”... Not a single battle of large ships; most of the sailors were used as infantry.

[Escariot]

Quote from invisible_man

The WWII Black Sea Fleet dominated the Black Sea and provided the sea flank.

Just look at where the Germans were before the spring of 1944. “Dominated”... Not a single battle of large ships; most of the sailors were used as infantry.

There were no battles of large ships primarily due to the lack of large ships among the enemy. However, the Black Sea Fleet covered both Sevastopol and Odessa, and then evacuated them, landed troops on Kerch and Feodosia, and even delivered Brezhnev to Malaya Zemlya.

[invisible_man]

Due to losses, all more or less large ships were removed from there, as they are now. What kind of dominance is this?

[alexoff]

Where - from there? From cities captured by the enemy? And then they sailed back more than once. The fleet actively fought, fired back, each ship has a history. And in their... well, they swam, stood at the pier, sometimes fired back from incoming enemy drones. All.

[pettabyte]

In 1991 we lost about 4-5 ships of the Kuznetsov class. Well, which is a Heavy Aircraft-Carrying Missile Cruiser.
If I’m not confused, 2 sold workers (to China and India), now they float under their flags, and 2 more for metal (one is in China as an amusement park). I don’t remember whether there was one, maybe I’m confused.
But the closure happened BEFORE, and the squandering of the fleet was already a consequence of the coup.

[acetophenone]

Were you flying towards a bridge but accidentally hit a ship? Did I understand correctly? Otherwise there are a lot of words.

[Shamil88]

The cruiser Moscow, two large landing craft in Berdyansk, one in the dock, a submarine, now an MRK, in the end they lost 6 ships, and the enemy has no fleet at all, and so the question is, how were Putin and Shoigu going to fight against NATO? There is no need to talk about Yao, the Kremlin doesn’t even have enough balls to beat the elite, but 300% will not hit their partners. What a shame.

[Escariot]

Quote: Shamil88

The cruiser Moscow, two large landing craft in Berdyansk, one in the dock, a submarine, now an MRK, in the end they lost 6 ships, and the enemy has no fleet at all, and so the question is, how were Putin and Shoigu going to fight against NATO? There is no need to talk about Yao, the Kremlin doesn’t even have enough balls to beat the elite, but 300% will not hit their partners. What a shame.

Yes, no one was going to fight with NATO - just puffing out their cheeks.

[alexoff]

Apparently they didn’t plan to fight with the fleet, since everything was lost not in battle, but at the pier or in the dock. Moscow generally just sailed back and forth along the enemy shores, probably not wasting a single shell. I think if you ride a tank back and forth along the front line, it won’t end well either

[Escariot]

Quote from alexoff

Apparently they didn’t plan to fight with the fleet, since everything was lost not in battle, but at the pier or in the dock. Moscow generally just sailed back and forth along the enemy shores, probably not wasting a single shell. I think if you ride a tank back and forth along the front line, it won’t end well either

The ships were driven into docks and bays, first with the help of coastal batteries (Moscow, Vasily Bekh), and then with the help of sea drones (Gornyak, attacks on Ivan Khurst, Bora), and only then they began to attack in harbors and docks. Those. It was the activity of the Ukrainian “fleet” that forced the Russian Black Sea Fleet to hide in the harbors, and now even the harbors are not a guarantee of security.

[alexoff]

So it is necessary to withdraw the entire army, back on February 24, when our first helicopter was shot down, so quickly hide the aviation away. And how the first tank was hit by a rocket - all the tanks are beyond the Urals, where they can’t reach it. And when the first infantryman was shot down, they also took everyone away. After all, we all know that if a boxer goes into a block in the ring and gets into a corner, then they probably won’t hit him either in the liver or in the ear, an excellent plan for victory

[Escariot]

Quote from alexoff

So it is necessary to withdraw the entire army, back on February 24, when our first helicopter was shot down, so quickly hide the aviation away. And how the first tank was hit by a rocket - all the tanks are beyond the Urals, where they can’t reach it. And when the first infantryman was shot down, they also took everyone away. After all, we all know that if a boxer goes into a block in the ring and gets into a corner, then they probably won’t hit him either in the liver or in the ear, an excellent plan for victory

Take it by yourself so as not to fall when walking

[pettabyte]

To fight with NATO, you just need to launch missiles.
And with the words “die like this with music!” take a tape recorder and go to the roof to watch the return starfall.

[Sergey3]

And with the words “die like this with music!” take a tape recorder and go to the roof to watch the return starfall.

They are afraid of wolves - do not go into the forest. You can't be such a coward!!!

[pettabyte]

What do you mean, a coward?
Well, everything is as we like it, almost “it’s on its own,” and “you won’t have to go to work tomorrow.”

[Dart2027]

Quote: Shamil88

How did Putin and Shoigu even plan to fight against NATO?

And we are at war with him. Whose missiles are these? Who does the guidance?

[Escariot]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Shamil88

How did Putin and Shoigu even plan to fight against NATO?

And we are at war with him. Whose missiles are these? Who does the guidance?

No, we are not fighting. In case of war, the United States has a hundred Ark Berkeley destroyers with fifty tomahawks on board each. And if they start fighting, you will know immediately.

[yaglon]

How you mutilated the name of this destroyer, you got the “Berkeley Ark” :)))

[Dart2027]

Quote: yaglon

you got "Berkeley's Ark"

The people at TsIPSO are not very educated.

[Dart2027]

Quote from Escariot

And if they start to fight

Then Fallout will begin.

Quote: Dart2027

Whose missiles are these? Who does the guidance?

I understand that there will be no answer?

[lynnot]

Quote: Shamil88

The cruiser Moscow, two large landing craft in Berdyansk, one in the dock, a submarine, now an MRK, in the end they lost 6 ships, and the enemy has no fleet at all, and so the question is, how were Putin and Shoigu going to fight against NATO?

More precisely, they don’t “have no fleet at all,” but “no longer have one at all.”

[AdAstra]

So did you get there? So much for air defense work 13 out of 15...

[pettabyte]

Actually a very good result.
About 87% shot down.
And at the same time, a very good lesson is that you need to build a bunch of air defense systems, so that 100% of them are always shot down.
For now, let’s say it’s 4, plus or minus, but we need to go for 5+.

[Escariot]

Quote: pettabyte

Actually a very good result.
About 87% shot down.
And at the same time, a very good lesson is that you need to build a bunch of air defense systems, so that 100% of them are always shot down.
For now, let’s say it’s 4, plus or minus, but we need to go for 5+.

Even if there were 15 missiles (although where did the Ukrainian Armed Forces get so many aircraft from?), the cost of the missiles is only 30 million dollars, and the cost of the corvette is 100 million dollars. So economically this is also a bad exchange

[jnik]

Quote from Escariot

the cost of the missiles is only 30 million dollars, and the cost of the corvette is 100 million dollars. So economically this is also a bad exchange

The difference is that the $30 million worth of missiles were completely scrapped, but the corvette was not.

[Ghost1]

I leaked footage of people working at the plant, I wouldn’t be surprised that they sympathize with the regime or for money. So much time has passed, and we have no punishment for posting such videos and photographs online, it’s somehow strange.

[your1970]

Quote: Ghost1

I leaked footage of people working at the plant, I wouldn’t be surprised that they sympathize with the regime or for money. So much time has passed, and we have no punishment for posting such videos and photographs online, it’s somehow strange.

Actually, there is an article and landings based on this article...

[Escariot]

Quote: Ovsigovets

the hit itself does not raise any questions..... everything is “garlic” here...... there are questions about the photographs..... this is where there is no end to the work of planting and seating DBs who walk around the plant with smartphones.. .security service that controls....there are a lot of questions there

You write all about videos and photographs from the scene, but is this a real problem? The Americans knew about the missile hits on the ship even without these shots, because everything is clearly visible from satellites. Even if it’s not so colorful (in the infrared range), but the locations of hits and explosions can be determined, especially if you know where and when to look. And military optical reconnaissance satellites will provide an excellent picture of the damage. It's not in vain that the specialists eat their bread behind the puddle.
Well, the fact that someone posted the photo online in no way worsened Russia’s position militarily, but caused a storm of emotions among local forum members. Perhaps we should be indignant not at the photographs of the damaged corvette, but at the fact that the air defense was unable to repel the attack on the ship.

[Sergey3]

I have another question: why did all 15 missiles safely reach Kerch? Why weren’t they thinned out over Donbass?! Is there no air defense at all in the Donbass? Factories have been working in 1,5 shifts for 3 years, where did all their products go?

[AlOrg]

Apparently they are not working enough to make up for the losses.

[Escariot]

Quote: Sergey3

I have another question: why did all 15 missiles safely reach Kerch? Why weren’t they thinned out over Donbass?! Is there no air defense at all in the Donbass? Factories have been working in 1,5 shifts for 3 years, where did all their products go?

Now the West is demonstrating that it is chewing through the air defense forces of Ukraine, which, God willing, has three dozen combat-ready Soviet-made aircraft. After this, everyone (Iran, China) needs to think about what a thousand F-35s are capable of

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Sergey3

Why did all 15 missiles safely reach Kerch? Why weren’t they thinned out over Donbass?! Is there no air defense at all in the Donbass?

1. Today's CRBDs are not “straightforward” vehicles, as they were at the dawn of RO. They maneuver normally, bypassing air defense areas. The flight route is programmed in advance, based on intelligence data and RTR.
2. Object-based air defense, protects a specific object... And if the missile launcher flies past, let it fly... Again, there is such a thing as the “parameter” of the missile launcher’s flight. If it goes beyond the range of the air defense system, then no one will fire at such a target.
3. There is also the so-called. radio horizon... All CRBDs go to the target at low speed, no higher than 60m, otherwise they will be seen by the radar... But there are no air defense weapons on duty! Expensive, and this is not the “residence” of Bocharov Ruchey, when HIMSELF resides there...
Hence the result. (Well, what don’t you understand, guys? (c))))

[Anton Yu]

They are flying across the sea, not Donbass. One of

routes.

[bukhach]

Quote: Jose

We are not fighting suckers, this has long been clear.

Well, I don’t know who you have to be for NATO countries to be considered suckers, if only sick in the head, and without them, Ukraine means little, even if they are at least seven spans in the forehead.

[pettabyte]

Quote: Buhach

Well, I don’t know who you have to be to call NATO countries suckers

And there are suckers there.
In addition to the USA and to some extent the Britons/Mems and the French.
Because in theory they signed up to rake in the heat for the Pan-American.
Here the USA, I must say, did everything correctly, fucked the suckers, and used 404 as a contraceptive...

[Nord11]

Oh, yes, our border with Ukraine is wide open, so radio operators Kat-Oksana feel like they are in Zhmerinka..

[SUKRAM]

to me, its well beyond time that the top brass tell the westerners, that the satellites, and other info gathering devices that give co ordinates to the ukelele banderas, [ that is, IF its actually the ukelele,s that are actually firing them ] that thee,s devices will be made to stop working.
how many,air ships craft,infrastructure,civilians,RU troops have been hit
Lots
ive said it many times, the west,esp the english will not stop,ever, as they think they are untouchable
esp when all the mps are for a total defeat of the RU
one just has to watch their antics in the house they go to play games with others.

[Laksamana besar]

Crimean channel reports:

One of the employees of the shipbuilding plant named after. Butomi handed over to the Ukrainian side recordings of the damage to the ship that had not been surrendered to the Black Sea Fleet during a missile attack on Kerch from the enterprise’s CCTV cameras. The moles are already being installed.

[Al manah]

The moles are already being installed.

To treat and to cure are somewhat different things. Don’t hesitate to talk about positive results, otherwise the earth is full of promises.

[m4rtin.frost]

Why Scalp and not StormShadow?

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

According to statements from the Ukrainian side. More precisely, according to hints, they used the term “scalping”, a response to our “calibration”.

[AlOrg]

We need to stop lying and start fighting somehow

[AVA77]

Tired of whining.
You might think that damage or even destruction of a combat unit.
And everyone will die at once.
I'm tired of whining,
These are all consumables.
And in the possible future, idiots with lightsabers destroyed star cruisers and what.
They saw your crap-cracy in its grave.

[Al manah]

The enemy slips in misinformation, and the sensation-hungry accomplices of the cypsos happily clap their ears against their cheeks. We must trust our native authorities, and not the mercenaries of enemy propaganda. Now we will count and record the IP of the enemies who vote against, then we will transfer the data to the appropriate authorities (c) I.V. Bunsha). The enemies will be identified and punished, victory will be ours.

[Sibiryak70region]

Unfortunately, our blockheaded commander fathers are unteachable. This is the second year they have been jumping on the same rake. And I’m generally silent about the Kremlin’s people. They exist outside the SVO. The porridge has been brewed, and the common people are taking the rap

[VLAD-96]

Practice shows that air defense is not omnipotent! If 80% intercepts, this is apparently a good indicator... Imported versions also do not shine with high results, an example of this is Patriots and the Iron Dome, there are also gaps, as well as spontaneous failures during aiming and uncontrolled falls!
It’s probably not yet possible to get 100% work, not for our non-import manufacturers.

[petrol cutter]

"If 80% intercepts, this is apparently a good indicator.."
As far as I know, this is a very good result. And preferably with two missiles. The truth is that this pleasure is expensive. On the other hand, SVO is also not a cheap event.
Since we started...

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

It is interesting here that in 2014 the capture of Crimea was justified, among other things, by the need to preserve the base of the Black Sea Fleet. And now it turns out that in a war, even with a weak enemy, this base turns into a trap and a cemetery for the fleet.

[jnik]

As a result, it turned out that the Russian base in Crimea turned out to be very effective in military terms, including sending the enemy fleet to the cemetery. There are losses, but they are incomparably small compared to the damage received by the enemy, supplied by 50 countries of the world.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Which enemy fleet is this? Those one and a half troughs that the enemy himself flooded out of fright immediately after the start of hostilities? Or motor boats that the planes had to hunt for Air force (they slander, at least one was lost in the process)? And this justifies the loss of the flagship cruiser, the BDK, heavy damage to another BDK, a submarine and a brand new corvette, the death of the Bekh, not to mention the loss and damage to every little thing (just recently false slanderous videos and satellite images were distributed about the Chamois), not to mention the fleet headquarters?

[BorzRio]

Allegedly damaged?! The author is clearly behind the news

[Escariot]

Quote: BorzRio

Allegedly damaged?! The author is clearly behind the news

The author does not want to go to prison for discrediting the Russian army

[APASUS]

Since they were able to transmit the photo, it means they could have laid a bookmark for missile guidance.

[invisible_man]

Beacons are not needed to guide these missiles.

[lynnot]

The ship stood against the wall, apparently for more than one day, visible from the satellite. That is, it is a static target, an ideal target. We broke through the defense with numbers. Conclusions must be drawn, and quickly.

[Come in large numbers]

In war there is a positional deadlock. Ukrainians failed the summer offensive, we apparently have the same “successes” in the fight against bridgeheads on the Dnieper and near Avdiivka. Two armies are fighting, one fueled by the West, but already breathing every other time. The Second Army is a champion of army games and air darts, but with antediluvian views on the planning, equipment and conduct of modern warfare. You can only take off your hat and bow to our guys who are there... Now all hope is for the exhaustion (moral) of Ukraine, as was the case with Russia in 1917. Naturally, the enemy will strive for the same result. But there is no way out, we went hunting for a gopher, and a bear crawled out of the den. You can't agree with him. And yes, I think that each of us, dear and loved ones, must mentally prepare not only to fight on the keys of a smartphone... And the Black Sea Fleet needs to be made into a flotilla, by the way, just like the Baltic Fleet. All the same, even if the enemy has aviation, the Black Fleet is not able to ensure supremacy at sea without ships. And all the modern ships.... I wanted to write - send to the Pacific Fleet, but there are the Japanese Navy with Aegis, VNU on submarines, in a word, another planet... But in any case, our country will need additional ships and non-nuclear submarines there more.. .

[alexmach]

Damn, but no one has any questions for those who missed the strike on the scarce ship, and this is not the first time?

[agond]

It was laid down on November 18, 2015, and commissioning was planned for 2023. 8 years!!! for a ship with a displacement of 800 tons, and then, in view of the regular shelling of the Crimea, one could probably guess to take it for completion, for example, to Novorossiysk

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Not an enemy: an enemy - they are our enemies.

[Anton Yu]

They also like to write that Ukrainians are fools for shooting down our missiles over cities and objects.

[AC130 Gunship]

Here they suggest looking for those who had access to surveillance cameras. Yes, any third-party hacker sitting in Beijing or Australia can connect to these cameras in a few minutes

[Russian]

No. You don’t quite understand the operating principles of IP cameras; with their normal installation, no one will connect anywhere.

Another thing is that only 90% of installers manage to set everything up “normally”, and for the remaining 10% of unfortunate people, a C-level hacker, yes, can connect and look, and from all the cameras in the world, he will find out something useful. However, those who save on installation usually do not remove anything that is particularly useful.

[petrol cutter]

Yes, they killed, they killed.
“If in this photo the Askold of the Russian Navy was really hit by a Ukrainian strike, then at least the question arises of how this photo ended up at the disposal of the enemy’s Internet resources. Does this mean that access to the MRK parking area was available to persons who could (can they) calmly share data with the Kiev regime? Or was the leaking of these photos initially carried out by someone who has nothing to do with relations with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but at the same time is not friendly with the concept of “expediency”?"
Where do the photos come from? Right now everyone has a movie camera on their phone. The twenty-first century is just around the corner.

[shark507]

Quote: 30 vis

That’s why the Republic of Kazakhstan destroyed Moscow because it had a strong air defense system

If there was a “strong air defense system” there, how was it destroyed? She couldn’t protect herself... What kind of cover is there for Sevastopol?

[shark507]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

Minus eight missiles in a salvo greatly facilitates the task of interception for Ukrainian air defense

Is it necessary to build a ship to launch Kalibr?

[osp]

When these ships were designed and laid down, it was necessary, because the construction of the Tu-160, which fires approximately the same salvo of the Kyrgyz Republic, cost no less.
Then the INF Treaty fell into oblivion and it was no longer necessary.

[osp]

There were probably 3-4 missiles and they went towards the ship.
And the first salvo that was reflected by the air defense was just MALD decoys, there were 12-15 of them.

[FRoman1984]

Leaky air defense with holes in their heads. This is the second time it has arrived at the plant. BDK, boat and MRK are decommissioned.

[newtc7]

And all because there are no radars on balloons. If there were, a cruise missile would not be a problem.
Well, the fleet in the form in which it exists now is just a giant coffin for people and money.
New times - new solutions, completely different ships are needed. Which ? Who needs my ideas... at Headquarters they will build a fleet for the previous war and report for this to the president and wait for the stars.