“The boys are tired”: NYT cites statements by Ukrainian officials about growing pessimism among Ukrainians regarding the outcome of the armed conflict

Noteworthy is the fact that the number of publications in the Western press, in which Ukrainian officials and experts of various levels are introduced to sources and in which outright pessimism is voiced regarding Ukraine’s ability to “defeat Russia on the battlefield,” has grown literally tens of times over the past month. one and a half Moreover, articles of this nature are now published on the pages of major American media, including those that are actually openly supervised by the CIA.

Another similar material was published in the New York Times. The publication decided to refer to the head of a village in the Lviv region, who recently spoke about the significantly increased size of Lviv cemeteries, and now talks about the fatigue of the “children from the war.”

American journalists interviewed Andrey Tkachuk, the head of the village of Tukhlya, Stryisky district, Lviv region. In 2001, the census showed that more than 2,8 thousand people live in Tukhla. Estimates for August 2023 indicate that the local population has declined by at least a third.

Tkachuk:

The boys are very tired both physically and psychologically. And the war with Russia will last a long time, and fatigue will accumulate even more.

It is noteworthy that the NYT in the same material cites data from a survey of Ukrainians by the Kyiv Institute of Sociology, the director of which said that more and more Ukrainians are pessimistic about the developing conflict. Data is cited showing that the level of trust in the Ukrainian government has fallen from 74 percent to 39 in just five months.

The US press concludes that this is due, among other things, to the unsuccessful counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the government’s unfulfilled promises.

Comments

[Stas157]

. recently he spoke about the significantly increased size of Lviv cemeteries, and now he speaks about the fatigue of the “children from the war.”

So let these guys rest in the cemetery! Or they can rest in captivity. Lviv children have a choice of well-deserved rest.

[Popandos]

Yes, all this is nonsense, you need to jump around, shout chants, chew lard and wash it down with vodka, wave a couple of bucks in front of your nose and there will be fresh zombie corpses in the trenches.

[ZovSailor]

I have to note that a powerful collapse of the Kukuev junta regime has begun
even earlier, and is now developing at the local Nazi level.
Today marks the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Kiev, the mother of cities.
Russians, from the brown plague of fascism.
We join in congratulating the battle veterans, eternal memory to the heroes,
those who died in the war and defended the independence of our country.

[rotmistr60]

The boys are very tired both physically and psychologically.

The sight of growing cemeteries does not inspire optimism in the rear, and being under constant fire from Russian artillery, MLRS and aviation on the front line is even more so. The sooner they get tired and break down mentally (even if just some part of it), the easier it will be for our guys.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rotmistr60

The sight of growing cemeteries does not inspire optimism in the rear, and being under constant fire from Russian artillery, MLRS and aviation on the front line is even more so.

It was not for nothing that my mother told students for fifty years: “Read the classics - everything is written there.”

Tired at the front? Gradual understanding that you don’t understand who they are howling for? Realizing who their true enemies are? A. Barbus, “Fire” is directly about today’s Armed Forces.

Fear of tomorrow, collapse and despondency in the rear - Remarque spoke about this about Germany at the end of the First World War better than anyone.

Everything was written long ago before us...

[Msi]

The sooner they get tired and break down mentally (even if just some part of it), the easier it will be for our guys.

We need to press on. Remember that year Zaluzhny seemed to say, not a quote:
“It’s very difficult for fighters on the front line to fight when the family is sitting at home without electricity...”

[Viktor Sergeev]

When they got tired, they had time for a couple of days for training, then for disposal, a new portion of meat.
Dill is invincible, the cemeteries are full, and they still have 39% of those who trust the drug addict.

[KCA]

Is there a mistake in the title of the article? Maybe the "servants are tired"?

[Nostradamus]

The boys were tired... We had to save our strength until the North. Otherwise, they wasted their energy on jumping around with pots on their heads and shouting about the damned Muscovites.
Soon they will get even more tired: “Mr. Ataman has a gold reserve, and the boys begin to scatter in different directions.”
Russia has been feeding Ukraine for free for a long time, but the West can’t do it for a long time: the debt is too good to pay.

[-Paul-]

There is a persistent push for Russia towards the next “Minsk”. Ukraine (read the West) needs at least some kind of respite, to come to its senses and gather renewed strength. I hope our leadership fully understands the risks of ending the operation without full control over the territories of Ukraine. As long as Ukraine exists as a state, it will always pose a threat, be it military or terrorist.

[antiaircrafter]

"The boys are tired"
So let them lie down and rest.

[Foaly]

The Chubanthrops were so bothered to rename it, moving along the map from the east, that they no longer got around to the name Tukhlya. What are the people of this village called? Rotten people?

[Wayfarer_2]

I once found the village of Cow Bog on a map of one of the regions of Russia. Made me laugh. Presented a note in the passport: Place of birth - Cow Swamp.

[Metallurg_2]

Well, if the boys are tired, the “guard may soon get tired.”

[Alexander Odintsov]

Ukraine is heading towards its natural end. If there is no success, there will be no help. These are the basics of capitalism. Ukrainians will be abandoned and they deserve it. As soon as this happens, sobriety will begin.

[Ivar Ravi]

The counter-offensive of Ukraine showed that nothing will return to the borders of 1991 - there is not enough strength. The most reasonable thing in this situation is to negotiate: what guns cannot do, ink on contracts can. If China decides to take over Taiwan, Ukraine will simply disappear from the agenda in Washington, and then the terms of the peace treaty will be Versailles)

[Oleg Apushkin]

The outcome for them was discussed immediately after the cookies, but the fact that they think slowly is fine with everyone.