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French invasion of Mali: double standards of "democratic empires"

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French invasion of Mali: double standards of "democratic empires"

Over the past two years, world attention has been riveted on the Middle East, where the “Arab Spring” has developed, which one can already call the “Arab chaos”. The entire democratic Western public watches with delight as the "rebellious nations" one after another overthrow the "rotten regimes." Meanwhile, a little more to the south, in Africa, no less exciting processes are taking place, which the “democratic media” prefer not to notice. For example, today French troops invaded Mali, without a UN mandate and, in general, without any serious explanation.


What is happening in Mali and why is it important? Read about this in a new article by Alexander Rogers.



Double standards of world media

In particular, I noted that a civil war has been going on for more than half a year in Mali, and the liberal media simply ignore this fact. Recall how massively our consciousness was processed with messages from Libya and Syria with pictures of the "atrocities" of Colonel Gaddafi and Dr. Assad. There seems to be a similar situation - and dead silence.

Why? It seems at first glance, everything is the same as in the stories of the liberal media about Syria: various groups of Muslims and Tuareg people rebelled against the rule of the tyrant president. Only one difference - the president in this case PROZAPADNY.

And no longer “the people rebelled against the tyrant”, but “Islamist terrorists want to overthrow the legitimate power”. Although the same "radical Islamists" are fighting against Assad in Syria, but there they are "sons of bitches, but our sons of bitches." Double standards in all its glory.

But information wars do not exhaust everything; everything is just beginning with them. But let's order.

Background to the conflict

Events in Mali last year developed as a mediocre adventure novel. It is obvious that somewhere in the depths of the US State Department there are people who are deeply worried that they could not be realized in Hollywood. However, judge for yourself.

April 29 The next presidential election was to take place on 2012.

But literally two months before them, March 22, a mutiny broke out among the military. The military seized the presidential palace, television and barracks with arsenals weapons. They stated that they are creating a "National Committee for the Restoration of Democracy and the Revival of the State." The uprising was led by a certain captain Amadou Sanogo.

For your information, Captain Amadou Sanoy was trained in the United States, first as part of the International Military Education and Training (IMET) program in Georgia and then in the Marine Corps in Quantico, Virginia.

8 April overthrown President Amadou Toumani Toure wrote a letter of resignation. That is, there was no need for a coup, because he was ready to transfer power by legal means, which would have happened without a coup in a couple of months.

12 April Dionkund Traore is sworn in as president of Mali. Attention: WITHOUT ELECTIONS! "Democratic" president, whom no one chose. He was appointed by the "international community."

And why all this was necessary, we learn from the following message: On May 21, thousands of unarmed citizens of Mali seized the presidential palace, demanding the resignation of interim President Dionkund Traore. That is, the people “hate the“ appointed president ”, and they would never choose democratically. But someone (it will be seen later that France and the United States) really needed to stage it, therefore the whole performance was flipped over with a coup.

Chef, all gone

But things did not go as planned. 6 of April, taking advantage of the confusion in the capital, revolted the Tuareg, proclaiming the independent Tuareg state Azawad (located north of Timbuktu).

Then the Islamist organizations Ansar ad-Din, the Movement for Unity and Jihad in West Africa, the Al-Qaida of Maghreb and others became more active. 5 May Ansar ad-Din captures Timbuktu.

According to numerous reports, the "Islamists" committed an act of vandalism and destroyed a number of objects on the UNESCO World Heritage List. Including the tomb of ISLAMIC (sic!) Saint Mahmoud ben Amar. Have you ever seen a devout believer destroying his own shrines? This is more like a provocation of some completely different special services, designed to expose the rebels to full barbarians, vandals.

By the way, the ranks of the rebels were considerably enlarged by refugees from Libya: the Tuareg were supported by the former "loyalists" of Gaddafi belonging to related tribes, and their former opponents from among the hired "freedom fighters" fight in the ranks of the Islamists. For example, the troops of the Tuareg are commanded by Mohamed Al-Najim, who had previously served in the army of the Libyan Jamihiriya as a colonel.

As a result, the country was actually divided into three parts controlled by the Tuaregs, the Islamists and the puppet government. Tuaregs cooperate with the Islamists, but do not support the idea of ​​creating a state based on Sharia, defending a secular form of government.

Who is really “good” and who is “evil”?

Evil terrorists are trying to overthrow the legitimate and democratic president? Or are the good rebels trying to overthrow the tyrant? To answer this question, we need to dig a little in the information about the economy of Mali.

A quick acquaintance with the summary data tells us that Mali is rich in minerals and is a tasty morsel. The country has rich deposits of iron ore, bauxite, lead, manganese, tin, zinc, copper, lithium, silver, gold, uranium, diamonds. In particular, Mali’s gold reserves are ranked as the third largest in Africa. The main deposits of gold, diamonds and uranium are located in the southern part of the country (this is an important detail that we will need later).

At the same time, the standard of living in Mali is one of the lowest in the world (205 -th place). Over 36% of the population lives below the poverty line. People with higher education are practically absent, the only university has long been closed.

Rich country with a poor population? And the president, who was educated in Nice, amid illiterate peasants? How all this is familiar. I would also rebel.

Hard truth

So what do we have at the exit? On the one hand, the illegal “president” hated by the people, which allows Western corporations to rob their country. Moreover, his power rests solely on bayonets (now also on foreign ones, since they cannot cope with their own).

On the other hand, the impoverished population of a rich country, driven to despair by the systematic plundering of its natural resources. Which not only rebelled on the outskirts, but also arranges thousands of anti-government demonstrations in the capital.

And at the same time, the western “democratic public” does not stand on the side of “democracy,” as she always stated, but on the side of her business interests, as she always did.

However, nothing surprising: after all, the USA supports the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia, and the most obscene, in the 21 century, who annually executes dozens of people on charges of witchcraft! Former US presidents cannibal Bokassa supported, why is Obama worse?

The values ​​of “liberal democracy” exist only in the minds of a trusting and zombie media “de-demise”, and the rulers of Western countries themselves do not believe in this nonsense.

The cynicism of trampling "liberal values"

In addition to the cynicism already indicated in the choice of the parties to support and suppress what is happening in Mali by the liberal media, there are many more facts that emphasize the depth of this cynicism.

For example, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, at the beginning of August (that is, under Sarkozy!), Stated that he considers the military invasion of Mali "desirable and inevitable." The change of power in France from the liberal Sarkozy to the “socialist” Hollande had no effect on this course. What is the difference, what kind of ideology does the party hide behind, if all of them are funded by big capital (which actually determines the real politics in “democratic” countries) ?!

Moreover, since spring, Burkina Faso has been trying to act as a mediator in resolving the conflict. They are trying to organize negotiations between the Islamists, the Tuaregs, and the Mali government in the capital of Burkina Faso, Ouagadougou. But the American and French rulers had long ago decided for themselves that there would be no peace settlement.

As another proof of this, one can cite the reports of “Reuters” and the “Associated Press” that the American leadership has been preparing numerous instructors for the transfer to Africa for some time. In particular, the second brigade of the First Infantry Division of the US Army. “If we want to prepare our allies for military operations, the brigade is the main source of personnel. They are ready for this. We are only waiting for the order of the head of the State Department, ”said General David Rodriguez, the newly appointed head of the US African Command.

The staff of the second brigade includes 3500 people, but the coaching teams will be approximately 200 people. In the event that African troops need speed training, a battalion of the second brigade with a total number of 800 men will go to the scene.

By the way, I always wondered why the US Department of Defense called it that way? After all, according to the logic of things, it should be called the "Ministry of Attack"! After all, it is only this that deals with the whole history of its existence. But the hypocrisy of the State Department extends even to this.

And the fact that now, instead of the occupation corps, the US will send military instructors to the natives to kill each other with their own hands, causes only contempt. However, nothing surprising either - their own American soldiers were already tired of wondering how they could “guard the US” by fighting in other parts of the world. Yes, and high losses in previous wars caused too much discontent among the thinking part of the US population.

Another example of Western hypocrisy is statements like "It is necessary to ensure the creation of a government of national unity, give it the necessary power and extend this power to the north of Mali, which will inevitably be accompanied by military intervention, which France can support, but will not initiate."

Naturally, the initiator of the invasion will be Western-controlled puppet organizations such as ECOWAS and the African Union. And the puppets joyfully demonstrate their readiness to act as instigators. So ECOWAS is ready to send about 3300 soldiers to Mali, and the head of the African Union calls for the invasion of Mali by NATO countries.

Regarding the attempts to suppress the uprising by the rulers of the neighboring countries, I recall the immortal poem Beranger in the treatment of Alexander Gradsky:

Proclaimed sacred union,
By the will of heaven, the indispensable
Mutual made peace -

A coward, a fool, a robber and a banker.
(In the original, by the way, "Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria").

Kohl saw the sacred union,
What is somewhere the venerable king

Fell from the throne, instantly to the throne
He will be planted again.

In this way, the West is trying to pretend that it “has nothing to do with it, but has asked for it.” Although all sensible people understand who orders the music, but such a game for the public is designed only for "suckers."

By the way, the NATO charter does not provide for invasion of sovereign countries that do not threaten one or more NATO countries. But who care about the statutes now?

The outbreak of war

Last December, the UN approved a plan to send infantrymen to 3000 in Mali to carry out peacekeeping and humanitarian functions (note, not to suppress the uprising!). At the same time, UN officials said they expected the deployment of troops no earlier than September.

But gentlemen, the capitalist imperialists cannot wait until September! Because the rebels moved south, threatening ... no, not the capital and the president (who needs this puppet?!) ... threatening to seize the resource-rich areas.

And every day of mining mining idle time will deprive of some fat money bags (I suspect that French) about 150 kilograms of gold. And then there is no need for propriety or some kind of silly formality such as UN sanctions.

Yesterday, January 11, 2013, "fake socialist", French President Francois Hollande admitted that French troops invaded Mali, helping the soldiers of the local puppet dictator to repel the rebel offensive to the south. At the same time correcting the UN Charter, the principles of the Peace of Westphalia, the principle of the right of nations to self-determination, the sovereignty of Mali and even the French Constitution (which is no big deal).

I open the thesis in detail. First, Hollande has no UN mandate for any military action in Mali (he could not get it).

The UN Security Council has scheduled a military operation for the fall, saying that the peacekeepers will act "respecting the sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity of the country." But what makes Hollande is a military invasion, and during an invasion, respect for sovereignty is impossible (just as with rape it is impossible to preserve the virginity of the victim).

The fact that the illegitimate president “invited” the French does not change the status of the invasion. Since the precedents in history have already been. For example, at the beginning of the 17 of the 20th century, False Dmitrys “invited” the Poles, but by all historians these campaigns are treated as aggressive.

Secondly, the uprising in Mali is an internal affair of Mali, in which he (and no one else) has the right to interfere. The people of Mali have the right to overthrow an illegitimate government. And we remember that the government is illegitimate and illegal, since there were no elections, which means that democratic procedures for legitimizing power have not been followed.

Thirdly, he was in such a hurry that he did not bother himself with respecting the internal laws of France. According to the French Constitution, the commencement of hostilities outside France is possible only with the approval of the country's parliament. Parliament should consider this issue on Monday, January 14. And yesterday was Friday, January 11, and the French army was already fighting!

The law is not retroactive. You can not do something first, and then pass a law allowing it. I apologize for my French, but Mr. Hollande and his ministers do not care about law, law, morality, European values ​​and other myths of the modern Western world. Their only real value is gold.

However, they are not alone in their nihilism. They have already been supported by the heads of the United Kingdom and the United States (the relevant official messages were published).

The balance of power

To date, according to available sources of information, the rebels have exhibited only about two thousand people (although, perhaps, their number is already much more). Armed, apparently, primitive rifles and, at best, old Kalashnikov assault rifles.

The coalition opposing them includes:

- roughly 7300 government army soldiers

- about 2000 gendarmes

- 3300 ECOWAS soldier

- 3000 African Union soldier

- 3000 UN soldiers (as long as they are, but armed and trained with the latest in military science and technology)

- until an unknown number of French soldiers, with support aviation.

However, numerical and technical superiority never guaranteed victory. Little Bohemia in the days of the Hussite Wars reflected several crusades of the "United Europe" of its time. Because their faith and spirit were stronger than the crusaders' iron armor.

Moreover, in the neighboring Central African Republic (CAR), the same rebels are attacking the capital of the local dictator, Basiz, so France and its allies will have to disperse their attention and resources. That in conditions of a protracted economic crisis in Europe can lead to unpredictable consequences.

The most important thing that happened on January 11 is that the “liberal” imperial world system has dealt a sensitive blow to its own fundamentals and principles with its actions, once again showing its true face. In full accordance with the concepts of Sergey Pereslegin, a situational victory in the power space may further lead to a more global defeat in the information one.
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  1. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis 13 January 2013 08: 06
    17
    If the LOCAL NURS adopt the experience of the Taliban in Afghanistan, the war will take a protracted character, which the WESTERN ARMIES VERY LIKE.
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 13 January 2013 09: 09
      23
      Quote: lehatormoz
      TALIBAN EXPERIENCE IN AFGHANISTAN WAR

      In pancake, the French silently climbed, and our zhurnalyugi (in the previous article) of our army DO NOT ALLOW to interfere and spend honestly earned money. And for some, it’s fun for any press and international laws.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 13 January 2013 14: 12
        10
        Quote: Sergh
        our zhurnalyugi (in the previous article) DO NOT ALLOW our army


        Good day, Sergey! What are they ours. That is the question. And about Mali, the truth is confirmed once again that once you release the genie with your own hands from the jug you will not drive him back. As they say, grandfather planted turnip, Turnip grew up, got stronger and put grandfather on a stake.
        1. lotus04
          lotus04 13 January 2013 15: 51
          +5
          French invasion of Mali:


          Why is the world community silent? !!! Where is the indignation of the UN? Where are the international sanctions? Where is the general boycott? Yeah gopoda zapadnentsy, you have to beat.
          1. Bekzat
            Bekzat 15 January 2013 13: 47
            0
            I WELCOME EVERYTHING FOR LOTUS, HOW WHERE? ALL THEY WHO YOU LISTED ARE SITTING AND RETRIEVING YOUR DAMAGES, VERY HOPE FOR YOUR TROOPS. THERE IS THE TRUE FACE OF THE FORGOTTEN WEST !!! IT IS IMPORTANT ONLY MONEY AND CAPITAL, AND HUMAN LIFE DOES NOT BECOME CALCULATED. CONTINUING POST, THINK IN THEME !!!
      2. Babon
        Babon 13 January 2013 14: 13
        +5
        So this is the former colony of France, in general for European states it is considered normal to interfere in the affairs of the African states that were once their colonies, this is not only about France.
        1. Nurius
          Nurius 14 January 2013 01: 00
          0
          And then they wonder why these same inhabitants of the colony have invaded the lands of the former metropolis (I'm talking about Arabs and blacks in France) wink
      3. Ross
        Ross 13 January 2013 15: 18
        +3
        Sergh,
        International corporations have always ruled in real life, and governments are simple puppets. Even Nathan Rothschild announced the principles of today's liberal democracy.
    2. klev72
      klev72 13 January 2013 09: 35
      10
      Natives have nothing to fight! With rifles, yes Kalash, 2000 people against 18000 to the teeth of armed thugs .... There will be a bloody massacre! sad
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 13 January 2013 10: 07
        +5
        Let France fight us with what! Just dig yourself another hemorrhoid!
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 13 January 2013 11: 59
          +7
          And the "invitation" from them presented to the world community? Or did the French president just get a phone call and ask for help?
          Greed doesn’t bring to that. Immediately gold floats away every day! And then the crisis, you know!
          1. Nose
            Nose 13 January 2013 13: 21
            +4
            Quote: Egoza
            Greed doesn’t bring to that. Immediately gold floats away every day! And then the crisis, you know

            Gold is like that, for a snack ... there is oil! About which so far, by the way, keep quiet.
            yes
            1. azat2005
              azat2005 13 January 2013 13: 48
              +1
              black gold is always valuable and France has little
        2. Vito
          Vito 13 January 2013 12: 54
          10
          tronin.maximI welcome you dear. hi
          Quote: tronin.maxim

          Let France fight us with what! Just dig yourself another hemorrhoid!

          I absolutely agree with you, but I want to add one more conclusion!
          Let them get stuck a little deeper in this alkaid-Wahhabi outhouse, look at Syria already and there won't be any strength left?
          Oh, to throw the Tuareg weapons, so that the paddlers there are stuck in shit longer !!!
      2. Babon
        Babon 13 January 2013 14: 18
        +3
        This is not the first conflict that shows that an ultramodern army is capable of quickly destroying the state’s infrastructure, destroying all heavy equipment, and then problems begin - guerrilla warfare with small groups armed with small arms, and setting up land mines, until they came up with something better - to assemble a new army from the local and let them fight among themselves.
        1. Guun
          Guun 13 January 2013 21: 13
          +2
          And again, the President of Mali will ask for help from the West in a couple of months.
      3. Nick
        Nick 13 January 2013 22: 35
        +2
        Quote: klev72
        With rifles, yes Kalash, 2000 people against 18000 to the teeth of armed thugs .... There will be a bloody massacre!

        Well, the rebels are not fools IMHO, they will not fight front to front. The rebels will carry out partisan actions, which in this situation are very effective. And a blood bath may well be organized by the paddling pool. am
        1. Guun
          Guun 13 January 2013 23: 00
          0
          Quote: Nick
          And a blood bath may well be organized by the paddling pool.

          It’s funny that the French will be killed with NATO weapons. They helped to sweep Gaddafi on their own head. After all, a worthy ruler was there. He helped the orphans, widows, the poor, and as soon as he decided to introduce his currency into the Arab region, he immediately became a tyrant dictator.
      4. Nurius
        Nurius 14 January 2013 01: 04
        0
        The Germans also fought with the native Zulus in their time, who had only primitive weapons, and considered this a feat wink
        Yeah, then they did business by arranging genocide for some African tribes
        1. Babon
          Babon 17 January 2013 01: 04
          0
          I do not want to offend you, but the Zulus live much south, And Germany fought with the British Empire in Africa, yes! the Germans constantly gave the Angles, as it should, but then there was also the Eastern Front. And in Africa, an approximately equal number of non-indigenous troops was constant.
    3. nokki
      nokki 13 January 2013 10: 13
      11
      Quote: lehatormoz

      If the LOCAL NURS adopt the experience of the Taliban in Afghanistan, the war will take a protracted character, which the WESTERN ARMIES VERY LIKE.


      Tuaregs 1000 points will give odds to the Taliban! These are warriors! And the article was written just fine: logical, smart, sarcastic. Great pluser!
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 13 January 2013 11: 22
        12
        The first special operation of the French special forces failed miserably and several of the commandos died.
        1. azat2005
          azat2005 13 January 2013 13: 49
          +6
          they also shot down a smelly aircraft and the pilot disappeared
      2. Guun
        Guun 13 January 2013 11: 35
        +7
        The Taliban is translated from Arabic as a student, there are not only Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Arabs fighting there, there are many Pakistanis and volunteers from Africa. The Taliban will help the Tuaregs in this war. And the Taliban are not war? There are children, I repeat CHILDREN are sitting in ambushes of the invaders, in Iraq, for example, the enemy’s age was from 7 years old, in Afghanistan, amers roughly say this - today a child is a warrior tomorrow — that is, children are simply killed despite their age. In the Afghan mountains, the war has been going on for a very long time and there is more experience of war against a superior enemy.
        1. Nurius
          Nurius 14 January 2013 01: 09
          0
          An Afghan told me that in the war with the spirits, there was everything, sometimes that would survive and they shot children ...
    4. Alx1miK
      Alx1miK 13 January 2013 11: 21
      +4
      Well, why are they surprised, they will not make noise. Quietly they will put theirs to key posts, their companies will conclude profitable (for themselves) mineral resource contracts. So that is all.
    5. Botanologist
      Botanologist 13 January 2013 11: 57
      11
      Here we would not tryndet, and draw conclusions. When the West needs it, it does not look back at the UN and others .... It’s just at war. And we are trying to ask everyone for permission, to agree with everyone. Maybe it's time to unload all the BDK in Syria and claim their rights to defend an ally? Moreover, we protect the country from international scum.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 13 January 2013 14: 54
        +5
        Quote: Botanologist
        Maybe it's time to unload all the BDK in Syria and claim their rights to defend an ally? Moreover, we protect the country from international scum.
        - Well then, Assad should at least officially voice at least something ... After all, he does not. Say, I’m disappearing, help, I ask you to send troops and other.
        Although Assad himself copes, there is no particular need. Well, in case of foreign intervention.
        But I think that the base is not a base, it is a couple of rusty berths, it is necessary to start building barracks, bunkers and pillboxes, and already in Syria to gain a foothold, specifically, with a large and full-fledged naval base, up to the ability to repair the Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, with a large personnel etc.
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 13 January 2013 15: 16
          +3
          I believe Assad will voice it when we ask.
          And what about the barracks and other things - do we have no engineering units? Let's start, of course, with tents, since there are not northern latitudes there, I hope there are reinforced concrete blocks for bunkers in Syria.
          Moscow was not built immediately, but it is necessary to start when it is necessary. Itself will not be built.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 14 January 2013 00: 48
            +2
            Quote: Botanologist
            I believe Assad will voice it when we ask.


            Assad has already competently voiced his position, knowingly his Stalinist "Brothers and Sisters!" were greeted with general ecstasy. He showed that the government is strong and ready for negotiations, although everyone understands perfectly well that all this was not started for negotiations with Assad, And such a bold proposal can definitely follow only against the background of the success of the current government, That is, from a diplomatic point of view, the move is very verified and timely making everyone understand that it is impossible to discount him as a real political force.

        2. Vito
          Vito 13 January 2013 15: 39
          +4
          aksakal,Greetings. hi
          Quote: aksakal
          with a large and complete Navy base

          I fully share your thoughts !!!
          SYRIA must be defended by weapons, intelligence, military specialists and, of course, the clear political course of our STATE in relation to IT!
          And when SYRIA starts to recover a little, I would have opened our Air Force base there!
    6. stolbovsn
      stolbovsn 13 January 2013 16: 11
      +1
      We must wait for the reaction of China, unlike us, they invested a lot of money in this region of Africa and their interests in this case are directly affected. And they know how and do not hesitate to support a variety of rebels.
    7. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 13 January 2013 18: 44
      +3
      Afghanistan is located on the oldest trade routes. In it, the British set up more than a century ago a clock-working system for the cultivation and sale of opium. The Taliban do not like drugs, but ... What does all this mean?
      This means WEAPONS. Enough, how much and what you want. Weapons, equipment, instructors, shelters, communications, target designation ... This is what the Taliban experience is. Somehow I doubt about the Tuareg and other Malian ...
      1. Nurius
        Nurius 14 January 2013 01: 14
        +2
        "The Taliban do not like drugs" That's for sure, at one time they wanted to destroy all the poppy crops (and this would be a blessing for the peoples of the CIS) but it was not there, the amers came and all their plans were upset, as a result, under the amers of Afghanistan, more more poppy, poisoning our peoples with this rubbish ..
        1. Guun
          Guun 14 January 2013 03: 10
          0
          The coalition led by the United States restored poppy fields that the Taliban destroyed, we see that only the territory on which poppy grows is under the complete control of the United States. Drug trafficking increased 69-70 times, and under the Taliban it amounted to only 1% of the world drug traffic. I’m saying that it’s quite difficult to get gold, but the poppy itself grows, just harvest and then make 1 grams of high-quality heroin from 15 gram, make 15 medium-quality heroins from these 100 grams and so on. 1 gram of pure heroin causes an overdose in any person, that is, poison if it is not diluted, and then the high-quality heroin is used by seasoned nariks for a little bit. And it turns out that with 1 kg of pure heroin we make a lot of money.
          And if the United States and its jackals really fought for world peace, then the first thing they would be would be to burn the remnants of poppy fields, but they restored the fields and put pressure on the pity of the world community that local drug lords would have nothing to live!
    8. Civil
      Civil 13 January 2013 19: 19
      +1
      But gentlemen, the capitalist imperialists cannot wait until September! Because the rebels moved south, threatening ... no, not the capital and the president (who needs this puppet?!) ... threatening to seize the resource-rich areas.


      author, we have exactly the same capitalists rule, the ruling class
  2. alexng
    alexng 13 January 2013 08: 12
    +6
    Western media work like this: one provocative governed by certain circles paw something and everyone else picks up this cake. The principle of decoy.

    Two ducks meet. One says:
    - Quack quack.
    The second:
    - Damn, I wanted to say the same thing!
  3. taseka
    taseka 13 January 2013 08: 24
    +7
    "Mali is rich in minerals and is a tidbit" - Here is the answer to war and death in Mali !!! And all democracy, tolerance and freedom there is HA-HA-HA!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 January 2013 08: 55
      +8
      Quote: taseka
      Here is the answer to war and death in Mali !!! And all democracy, tolerance and freedom there is HA-HA-HA!

      All according to plan, these Malian Islamists are not subordinate to the State Department, which means they are not Democrats and must be destroyed. After they put them under control and drive the country into a ten-year-old warrior hi
      1. bask
        bask 13 January 2013 09: 07
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        All according to plan, these Malian Islamists are not subordinate to the State Department, which means they are not democrats and must be destroyed.

        France, like all Western countries, returned to NEOCOLONIALISM. Now, under the guise of “the establishment of democracy,” such a technique is especially for colonial wars. with aboregens. Africa.
        1. Nose
          Nose 13 January 2013 13: 24
          +4
          Quote: bask
          France, like all Western countries, returned to NEOCOLONIALISM. now, under the guise of, the establishment of democracy,

          Okromy like war, there is nothing to cure the crisis! .. Tried this way and that, hrenushki, nothing comes of it, so they drove along the beaten track ...
      2. taseka
        taseka 14 January 2013 14: 36
        0
        Yes, Alexander! They will do so! And they don't give a damn about the poor "Bedouins" A comrade at the UN as an observer told how in one African country, a year ago, "partisans" shot a village with women and children, 350-450 people, and the whole West lamented these days by the bus accident in Belgium, with schoolchildren!
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 14 January 2013 16: 44
          0
          taseka,
          So it seems to me that Europeans believe that buses in Belgium are very rarely in an accident, a tragedy! And after a day, Africans kill each other with villages - who cares ... Otherwise, how to explain the almost complete silence
          around the civil war in the DRC, for example?
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 13 January 2013 09: 06
      +8
      And if RUSSIA, under the guise of help, enter Syria? I wonder what howl app, the media will be? Or under the guise of protecting pestilence, base? These villains on r ... o go away!
    3. azat2005
      azat2005 13 January 2013 13: 51
      +1
      the most important thing for bourgeois is always money and everything else is nothing
  4. Ren
    Ren 13 January 2013 08: 59
    +9
    let my words be cruel to civilians in Mali, but it is good if France gets bogged down in the next colonial war: 1. Syria will be left alone, and it will be our ally. 2. the costs of the war, I hope, will not pay off in spite of the natural wealth of Mali, therefore, the crisis in France and the change of president (Hollande I do not like, no better than Sarkozy) and a rethinking of imperial ambitions, otherwise they can destroy the weak and spread the legs before the Germans and knock us into a fight with the Germans. 3. They will not touch Syria, which means they will not go to Iran and further to us. Sorry for the confusion in the statement, the head is now sleeping poorly, but I wanted to speak
    1. Sleptsoff
      Sleptsoff 13 January 2013 11: 03
      +4
      What a naive young man you are. 1. Why should everyone leave Syria alone because of the French war 2. Even if the president changes in France, it is not a fact that he will be replaced by a more adequate one, because this is a system like in any other country, including ours 3. Read paragraph 1
      1. Ren
        Ren 13 January 2013 12: 42
        +5
        France has one of the leading roles in fueling the conflict in Syria. Now she will focus on Mali, thereby reducing her activity in Syria. That is, something like this - against 5 countries it is easier to fight off Syria than against 6
        1. Sleptsoff
          Sleptsoff 13 January 2013 13: 32
          +1
          Strange, but I thought the main role in the conflict was screaming by the Saudis and Qatar. And the French and Germans will sort it out with Mali quickly enough. I have no doubt about it, they have a good and strong army.
          1. Ren
            Ren 13 January 2013 15: 32
            +2
            I believe that the following countries play the main role in fueling the conflict in Syria: the USA, England, France, Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. and as for the Germans, they will not climb anywhere. haven’t climbed into Libya; they are withdrawing or have already withdrawn troops from Afghanistan. Merkel is a good mistress - she does not want the laurels of a commander and a great conqueror, she is from the generation that REMEMBER.
          2. Guun
            Guun 13 January 2013 21: 30
            +4
            The French only have good troops of the Foreign Legion, did you forget how much the Nazis captured the entire French even though they had the best defense at that time? By May 10, 1940 the French had 93 French divisions, 10 English divisions and 1 Polish division, and the Germans had only 89 divisions, the war ended on June 24, 1940 France surrendered to Germany and before that France declared war on Germany on September 3, 1939, however, she did not engage in hostilities and on June 17, 1940 the French government turned to Germany with a request for a ceasefire. However, good warriors.
            Quote: Sleptsoff
            And the French and Germans will sort it out with Mali quickly enough. I have no doubt about it, they have a good and strong army.

            And I doubt the strongest army in the west of the United States wilted in Afghanistan from 2001 to the present day, chose to sit near Kabul where poppy grows. Do you think the French and German troops are better than the US troops? Of all the French, the most combat-ready army is the Foreign Legion, but it's an expensive pleasure , not pulled with the euro crisis. Yes to euronews they showed how the valiant France’s paratroopers were hiding from the Toulouse shooter. A strong army is undeniable.
          3. Nick
            Nick 13 January 2013 23: 07
            0
            Quote: Sleptsoff
            And the French and Germans will sort it out with Mali quickly enough. I have no doubt about it, they have a good and strong army.

            And where are the Germans from? Where does the information come from?
        2. azat2005
          azat2005 13 January 2013 13: 55
          +3
          better is one small victorious war against the natives with spears and bows than a war with great losses against a trained regular army, the bourgeois choose the first
          1. Guun
            Guun 13 January 2013 23: 03
            +1
            You see, the French will play, weapons from the militants were donated by the same Europeans against Gaddafi (the European Union helped).
      2. Vito
        Vito 13 January 2013 13: 09
        +4
        Sleptsoff, Hello dear. hi
        Quote: Sleptsoff

        What a naive young man you are. 1. Why should everyone leave Syria alone because of the French war

        Why is it so hopeless? The strengths of the Western world are also not unlimited, and in the light of worsening economic growth and the looming next crisis in the latter, getting into protracted conflicts from different corners of the world is becoming increasingly unprofitable!
        In general, I noticed the French have unbelted something recently.
        Are European leaders trying on laurels ???
        1. polly
          polly 13 January 2013 15: 06
          +5
          Holland, it seems, suffered like that of Ostap Bender ... He promised to pacify Putin in the elections. He wants to take the first empty line in the world ranking, he thinks: they left him! lol
          1. OSTAP BENDER
            OSTAP BENDER 13 January 2013 15: 18
            +5
            Quote: polly
            Holland, it seems, suffered like that of Ostap Bender ... He promised to pacify Putin in the elections. He wants to take the first empty line in the world ranking, he thinks: they left him!

            Judging by the latest events, the whole West bears! That's where all this will bring them, let's see ?! Preferably in one big cesspool !!!
          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 14 January 2013 09: 54
            0
            This is not Ostap Bender. and Napoleon Bonaparte, Ostap of this only wanted to leave for Rio de Geneiro and walk there in white trousers, and these are torn to European domination and the reconstruction of the colonial empire
    2. omsbon
      omsbon 13 January 2013 12: 30
      +1
      Quote: Ren
      and in front of the Germans, legs spread and knock us into a fight with the Germans.

      I do not understand how we are embroiled in a fight with the Germans?
      1. Ren
        Ren 13 January 2013 12: 50
        +4
        I did not quite correctly express my thought. I meant that during World War II, France in front of a strong enemy (Germany) crumbled like a house of cards ik, but our interests coincided with France - the fight against Hitler. thereby we had to wage war with Germany almost alone. and in World War I we had to save France.
        1. azat2005
          azat2005 13 January 2013 13: 57
          +2
          the coma frogs as with the natives no longer know how to fight with anyone
          1. Babon
            Babon 13 January 2013 14: 21
            +2
            I would not say so about the French, their foreign legion has established itself well in many conflicts.
            1. azat2005
              azat2005 13 January 2013 14: 53
              +3
              their foreign legion is only with the natives and is fighting
            2. OSTAP BENDER
              OSTAP BENDER 13 January 2013 15: 20
              +3
              Quote: Babon
              I would not say so about the French, their foreign legion has established itself well in many conflicts.

              That's about foreign! How many French are there?
              1. Babon
                Babon 13 January 2013 19: 38
                +1
                Yes, there is constantly the majority from Eastern Europe, the French themselves say, they are much better off taking (more persistent) immigrants from the former USSR than all Africans, Latinos and from the USA. They said about the amers that they were already living with a good life and did not quite understand what it was they were being driven so. And so their legion was constantly replenished even from the Russian Empire. By the way, essentially Africa came to them from the Russian Empire and conquered them. Our waves were big there, after the revolution, after the Second World War, well, with the collapse of the USSR.
            3. Nick
              Nick 13 January 2013 23: 12
              +1
              Quote: Babon
              their foreign legion has established itself well in many conflicts.

              The fact of the matter is that FOREIGN!
        2. Babon
          Babon 13 January 2013 14: 40
          +5
          You would have looked at France’s plans to attack the USSR, before Hitler attacked them, their plans didn’t exactly coincide with ours, they seriously considered the USSR to be an enemy country. And in World War I, for the salvation of Paris, in response we received a quiet sitting in the trenches of the French, while Germany suffered a major blow to us. And after World War I, instead of the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, we received intervention from France. Here you have an allied France.
          1. Ren
            Ren 13 January 2013 15: 26
            +2
            I am on the principle: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." and I agree France was a useless ally in the First World War. and in the second I liked the statement of the German chief, addressed at the moment of surrender to the representative of France: "have we really lost to you too."
          2. Guun
            Guun 13 January 2013 21: 32
            +2
            By May 10, 1940, the French had 93 French divisions, 10 English divisions and 1 Polish division, while the Germans had only 89 divisions, the war ended on June 24, 1940, France surrendered to Germany, and before that France declared war on Germany on September 3, 1939, but to conduct military operations She didn’t, and on June 17, 1940, the French government turned to Germany with a request for a truce. However, good warriors.
            The Germans defeated them in 1 month, like this.
  5. Yarbay
    Yarbay 13 January 2013 09: 12
    +5
    *** Have you ever seen a faithful believer destroying his own shrines? This is more like a provocation of some completely different special services, designed to expose the rebels as complete barbaric vandals. *** - A respected author, Wahhabis have been doing this for a century !!
    Nothing new!!
    As for the chronology of events, you turned everything into a vinigret and distorted events a lot !!
    The coup attempt occurred against the backdrop of the defeat of the army and the failure to pay salaries to the military!
    And the attack of the militants began before the coup !! Just because of the chaos and anarchy, the militants captured part of the country almost without a fight!
  6. basal
    basal 13 January 2013 09: 21
    +4
    The largest gold deposits are owned by South African companies, including the multinational company AngloGold Ashanti, which traditionally ranks first or second in the world among gold mining companies. South African companies (AngloGold Ashanti, RandGold Resources and Lamgold Corp.) account for more than 3/4 of the confirmed reserves and more than 90% of the gold recovered in the country.
    http://www.mineral.ru/Facts/world/116/143/index.html


    I wonder how many of these guys unfasten the roof? Or do they command the parade? recourse
  7. erased
    erased 13 January 2013 09: 23
    +7
    Interference in the internal affairs of another country under any pretext is NATO’s favorite toy at the direction of the S / SH. They are training. They are getting ready. And they are waiting for the moment to visit Russia. Everything goes to ...
  8. Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 13 January 2013 09: 27
    +9
    It is necessary to provide all possible assistance to the opposition in France, the USA and England. It is time to start digging graves for the imperialists - capitalists.
    1. mda
      mda 13 January 2013 10: 55
      +5
      Quote: Byordovvv1
      It is time to start digging graves for the imperialists - capitalists.

      They themselves had already dug their own grave.
  9. andrei332809
    andrei332809 13 January 2013 09: 36
    +8
    interesting, but someone on the site can be surprised by the double, not to say even worse, standards of zapadentsev? They themselves bend and pull the rest into a ditch.
    1. bask
      bask 13 January 2013 09: 57
      13
      Quote: andrei332809
      interesting, but someone on the site can be surprised by the double, not to say even worse, standards of zapadentsev? They themselves bend and pull the rest into a ditch.

      Hi teska. The French want another wave of refugees from Africa, Mali .. Overwhelmed France .. And then there will be the Arab Republic of France .. The French need to think with their own head, not just ... .. Then not only Depardieu but also the remaining indigenous French They’ll run to Russia .. Russia, of course, only benefits. We need highly qualified engineers and farmers.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 13 January 2013 10: 16
        +5
        Quote: bask
        Hi teska

        hello, Andryukh. But soon in Europe, the Arab "springs" will begin. But the Saudis will help the European rebels? And pin-do-this will require a no-fly zone over Europe?
        1. bask
          bask 13 January 2013 10: 34
          +5
          Quote: andrei332809
          will the Saudis help European rebels?

          What is true is true. . But we must not forget that France is a nuclear power. What will happen to their nuclear weapons ... The Islamists will win the election code. ????
          1. hrych
            hrych 13 January 2013 11: 17
            10
            The more blacks there are in France, the sooner Le Pen will win. In small towns and villages there are almost no swarthy ones. About 5 million people in France they are of foreign origin (immigrants, either their parents were immigrants, or grandparents), of which 2 million have French citizenship. There are 1000 migrants per 1,52 people. Sarkozyavka was voted after the black riots, because he said that he would solve the problem (or organized riots), but, as always, fucked ..
            1. bask
              bask 13 January 2013 11: 47
              +3
              Quote: hrych

              The more blacks there are in France, the sooner Le Pen will win.

              No, you are wrong. How many children do Arab families have, on average, 3-6. And there are one native French people at best. And how many people are in France? .. .. At such rates of fertility and migration. After 20 years, the picture will change dramatically .. .
              1. hrych
                hrych 13 January 2013 12: 16
                +7
                Well, it’s necessary to fill France with blacks for about a hundred years, and they will manage to load everyone on barges and to Africa in a couple of years, and if they heat the boiler rooms with ebony ... In general, when the anti-leader march took place in Paris, and even the femen were ransacked and the gypsies were sent, I’ll tell you that France is not hopeless. And there is a big misconception that porarasts are whites, assholes, bestiality and drug addiction are basically the preferences of a colorful population.
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic 13 January 2013 14: 24
              +7
              Quote: hrych
              In small towns and villages there are almost no swarthy ones.


              My sister lives in a small town in the south of France, where there are almost none. The positions of nationalists have become very strong, especially among winemakers, farmers and small entrepreneurs with their own "family business" (bakers, confectioners, etc.), which are practically all "native" French.
            3. atalef
              atalef 13 January 2013 20: 30
              +4
              Quote: hrych
              The more blacks there are in France, the sooner Le Pen will win

              I was in Brussels, I was lucky enough to visit the area of ​​the old station in the evening. The impression that he got to Africa, there were absolutely no whites, only blacks, bow-legged with huge heads - just the children of King Kong. and this is Europe (more precisely, its center). With their tolerance, they will soon climb trees themselves.
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 13 January 2013 22: 57
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                With their tolerance, they will soon climb trees themselves.


                For that fought for it and ran.

              2. hrych
                hrych 13 January 2013 23: 43
                +1
                The Europeans will overcome everything, experience has a place to be, especially in the production of soap, you yourself know from whom.
      2. denn
        denn 13 January 2013 13: 01
        +5
        Nevertheless, Russia needs to develop a competent policy when accepting foreigners. All foreigners, upon obtaining Russian citizenship, must clearly understand and accept Russian ideology, values, etc. Without "killing" their native culture, of course. And so that in the future no, for example, independent France on the territory of the Russian Federation. All calls for secession, independence - immediately under the Criminal Code. My opinion is.
        1. Nick
          Nick 13 January 2013 23: 20
          0
          Quote: denn
          All calls for secession, independence - immediately under the Criminal Code.

          And to the highest degree of social protection ...
  10. Mgydvin
    Mgydvin 13 January 2013 09: 41
    +2
    http://www.1tv.ru/news/leontiev/220798 Деньги не нужны - нужны территории
  11. Zomanus
    Zomanus 13 January 2013 09: 48
    +4
    It would be necessary to officially support the people of Mali ...
    1. azat2005
      azat2005 13 January 2013 14: 01
      +2
      unofficially it’s better to send advisers and some new weapons there, they themselves will leave there, they are afraid of big losses soldier
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 14 January 2013 10: 01
        0
        Quote: azat2005
        , they themselves will leave from there, they are afraid of big losses

        and why would they leave, got involved in a fight - let them fight, why squirm, the longer the fight - the better. we must remember the Israeli "friend" - the more they kill each other, the better for us. Does Russia seem to have no interests of its own in Mali? You can help, but only so that they don't run away
  12. fenix57
    fenix57 13 January 2013 10: 10
    +3
    Quote: Mgydvin
    No money needed - territory needed

    "The country has rich deposits of iron ore, bauxite, lead, manganese, tin, zinc, copper, lithium, silver, gold, uranium, diamonds. In particular, Mali's gold reserves are estimated as the third largest in Africa. The main deposits of gold and diamonds and uranium are located in the southern part of the country ... "is what they need. "... OPERATION SERVAL: The intervention was undertaken at the request of the government to stop the advance of Islamic extremists in the direction of the capital Bamako and ultimately free the north of the country from them... "- see Wikipedia.
    1. Guun
      Guun 13 January 2013 11: 40
      +5
      If they don’t share the Arab oil necks, the war will be sooooo long, the French will not last a long war, especially if the French hired legionnaires, and without the legionnaires, I think the Franks will not risk it. They must win in a short time and not ...
      1. mda
        mda 13 January 2013 13: 37
        +4
        Quote: Guun
        not that ...

        ... It will not be possible to reduce the budget deficit;
      2. azat2005
        azat2005 13 January 2013 14: 03
        +2
        otherwise the budget will burst like a soap bubble
  13. bubla5
    bubla5 13 January 2013 10: 31
    +6
    I don’t understand the Europeans and that’s all, they are raising a hornet’s nest themselves, then the refugees will flood into the EU together, soon the whole African uncontrolled contingent will live in Europe and those clashes in Paris and * Landon * will be just flowers
    1. Nurius
      Nurius 14 January 2013 01: 28
      0
      Boomerang is back ..
  14. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 13 January 2013 10: 40
    +5
    Soon, the whole of France will become a province of Africa, and they still have everything, probably, there are few blacks in their country. What a fair wind to them in the back.
    1. bask
      bask 13 January 2013 14: 27
      +1
      Quote: Alekseir162

      Soon, the whole of France will become a province of Africa, and they still have everything, probably, there are few blacks in their country. What a fair wind to them in the back.

      They want to live under the dictation of sir.? . She already became her. . The flag to them ......... tolerance, multiculturalism .., ... neocolonialism .... As a result .....
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 14 January 2013 10: 03
        +1
        and the girls are nothing "French"
  15. Cavas
    Cavas 13 January 2013 10: 48
    +7
    And every day of mining mining idle time will deprive of some fat money bags (I suspect that French) about 150 kilograms of gold. And then there is no need for propriety or some kind of silly formality such as UN sanctions.

    And what about the flow of refugees that can flood Europe?
    The children of Africa can hear the calls of the French.
    Indeed, if they cease to feed Africa with the same herring, the old woman Europe came!
    But the French did not understand at all who attacked Mali, which the hell bore them in Somalia, where the French special forces successfully got on the head, and didn’t release the hostage?
    Although the attempt to rescue his compatriot cannot but arouse respect, though he has been there since 2009, but nonetheless.
    Or is the French president trying to raise his rating?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 January 2013 11: 21
      +2
      Quote: Cavas
      why the hell they carried them to Somalia, where the French special forces successfully got on the head

      Sergey, there were actually amers in Somalia, there Delta received a snot.
      1. Cavas
        Cavas 13 January 2013 11: 25
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Sergey, there were actually amers in Somalia, there Delta received a snot.

        Amer received earlier, the French yesterday!

        12.01.13 17:21
        French Defense Ministry: Two special forces and 17 militants died in Somalia

        The French Ministry of Defense has confirmed the death of two soldiers during a special operation in Somalia, reports Agence France-Presse. According to Minister of Defense Jean-Yves Le Drian, 17 militants were also killed in action.

        The special operation was carried out by French foreign intelligence DGSE. The Minister of Defense expressed condolences to the families of the dead soldiers and confirmed that the purpose of the special operation was to release the French secret agent Denis Alleks, who has been held captive by militants since 2009.
        The fate of Alex is currently unclear. According to the Associated Press, citing the French Ministry of Defense, the hostage was killed, writes Lenta.Ru.

        According to Agence France-Presse, Dennis Allex is alive. This statement was spread today by Islamists from the Al-Shabab group. "He will be sentenced within two days," the message says. According to the Islamists, they also have a French soldier wounded during a special operation in captivity.
        Earlier, Islamist militant leader Sheikh Mohamed Abdullah said French commandos failed to release a secret agent taken hostage in southern Somalia. According to him, in a shootout that occurred during an unsuccessful operation, several special forces were killed.

        According to eyewitnesses, four military helicopters were used in the operation in the territory controlled by the Islamist movement Jamaat al-Shabaab, 110 kilometers south of Mogadishu. One of the local residents said that he saw several corpses in the morning, and one of the dead was white. Witnesses report three civilian deaths.
        According to Western media, the French military attacked militants of an Islamic group in the Somali city of Bulomarer. Their goal was to release a French military adviser captured by militants back in 2009 in Mogadishu and held in a fortified Islamist camp. According to unofficial information, commandos landed near a lair of extremists from a helicopter and destroyed part of the militants. Probably, they decided to hurry with the operation in Somalia, because there were fears that the Islamists would kill the hostage.
        1. Guun
          Guun 13 January 2013 11: 42
          +6
          I’ve got rid of it, they shoot around and the special forces counted how many militants they killed? Especially when hundreds of machine guns shoot at you. They simply said that they didn’t show full losers that they killed 17 militants, but for me they got into a banal ambush and the militants probably didn’t suffer at all, the benefit is experience against amers in Somalia is.
        2. komsomolets
          komsomolets 13 January 2013 12: 31
          +5
          Let them not forget that in a war, if you kill you, they can also slam. If you are a Frenchman and a special three times.
        3. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 13 January 2013 12: 41
          +3
          Quote: Cavas
          According to Western media, the French military attacked militants of an Islamic group in the Somali city of Bulomarer. Their goal was to release a French military adviser captured by militants back in 2009 in Mogadishu and held in a fortified Islamist camp. According to unofficial information, commandos landed near a lair of extremists from a helicopter and destroyed part of the militants. Probably, they decided to hurry with the operation in Somalia, because there were fears that the Islamists would kill the hostage.

          Yesterday, on the news, there was an infa that the French dutifully taxed with this operation. The hostage was killed, one commando who was considered dead was thrown there, but was wounded and captured parisans militants. Now his fate will be decided in the near future. And most likely she will be unenviable
          1. Guun
            Guun 13 January 2013 14: 18
            +4
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            who was considered dead was thrown there but was wounded and captured

            Ehm, you see, the specialists spoiled from all legs if they threw their own. Hmm, a helicopter landed near the enemy’s camp on a helicopter, the noise is quite far, you see how the NATO members forgot how to make marching throws. , plus a huge underestimation of the enemy played a fatal mistake with the French.
        4. Ascetic
          Ascetic 13 January 2013 14: 30
          +5
          Quote: Cavas
          Amer received earlier, the French yesterday!


          Met. Greetings! This is not surprising if you recall the epic of the French special forces to eliminate the Toulouse shooter - the terrorist. lol
          1. marder
            marder 13 January 2013 15: 22
            +2
            Ascetic wrote:
            This is not surprising if you recall the epic of the French special forces to eliminate the Toulouse shooter - the terrorist

            In Toulouse, special forces of the gendarmerie worked. In Mali, most likely worked Commandos de Rechercheet d Action dans le Profondeur (CRAP) from 2er REP. And with a very high degree of probability (I did not find direct evidence), soldiers of the 2nd Parachute Regiment of the Legion were deployed in Mali. Without knowing the details of the operation, it is difficult to judge what exactly happened there and how the losses were sustained. But I dare to assure you that 2er REP are soldiers who have recently returned from Afghanistan and with great combat experience.
            1. Guun
              Guun 13 January 2013 20: 06
              +1
              Quote: marder
              not so long ago returned from Afghanistan and with great combat experience.

              As for the huge, I doubt that the legionnaires are pros, respect but extremely expensive. The Afghan mountains are not Mali. The main thing for NATO is the sale of a hero (more expensive than gold and growing year-round under the control of the US Department of State) and minimal losses and therefore sit on their own bases.
              1. marder
                marder 14 January 2013 04: 31
                -1
                Not very expensive. Private legionnaire 2er REP in the first year of service receives 1460 euros. Given that in Mali, the surcharge for staying abroad is 3817 euros, and taking into account hostilities, depending on the intensity of hostilities, and depending on climatic conditions, a maximum of 7000-7500 euros. Well and further premiums from the base rate depending on the service life. So it’s not for a long euro that they go to the legion to serve.
                1. Guun
                  Guun 14 January 2013 13: 04
                  0
                  A salary for a legionnaire is one thing and the cost of service of a Foreign Legion is another. For example, an ordinary employee in the office does not receive the same as the director.
          2. Cavas
            Cavas 13 January 2013 16: 40
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            Met. Greetings!

            My regards! hi
            Quote: Ascetic
            This is not surprising if you recall the epic of the French special forces to eliminate the Toulouse shooter - the terrorist.

            Well, there was a circus in general, only in my opinion Mossad was involved there!
            But they quickly disowned him!
            1. Allegedly, the "Arab terrorist" is actually as clean as an Israeli Jew ?? (maybe, maybe)
            2. The headline "Arab terrorist is killing Jewish children!" - has a completely clear political orientation!
        5. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 January 2013 14: 32
          +3
          Quote: Cavas
          Amer received earlier, the French yesterday!

          History does not teach fools hi
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 13 January 2013 14: 36
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            History does not teach fools

            Only the grave will fix the fool wassat
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 13 January 2013 14: 52
              +2
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Only the grave will fix the fool

              It is decided, we remove the Oland wassat
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 13 January 2013 15: 25
                +2
                Do you think someone smarter will come in his place? Torment digging mass graves wassat
              2. Cavas
                Cavas 13 January 2013 17: 40
                +4
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                It is decided, we remove the Oland

                And what to remove, GDP has already broken it.

                The fact is that Hollande in the elections promised to pacify Putin. Since then, the French president somehow did not work out.

                The strange attitude of some politicians to the statement about the importance and influence of Putin is often connected with the fact that you want to show off with your strength, independence and so on, here you can list anything, here you just can’t wisdom. Politics does not tolerate lightweight people with stupid statements, Hollande made such a statement, Putin reacted to it and now the choice is that way, or Hollande continues to play an idiot and then all France will pay for his stupidity, which will eventually expel Hollande in the next election, or Hollande understands that idiocy is the last stop on the route of this express train and you need to get out of it ahead of time.
                1. Vladimir 70
                  Vladimir 70 13 January 2013 20: 43
                  +2
                  The fact is that Hollande in the elections promised to pacify Putin. Since then, the French president somehow did not work out
                  That's what I like about Putin, so that everyone who was "rude" to him - practically all flew (albeit not immediately) from the world political Olympus.
                  1. illarion
                    illarion 14 January 2013 02: 37
                    +1
                    I wonder if we should recognize the government of Muslim tauregs as the only legitimate government of Mali? If the president is illegitimate. Then there will be allegories for Syria.
  16. faser
    faser 13 January 2013 11: 05
    +6
    the Arab revolution was already in Paris, just for equal rights, only their democrats did not support either money or weapons.
  17. fenix57
    fenix57 13 January 2013 11: 14
    +5
    The article can be called "RETURN OF COLONIES"... ".. By the beginning of the XNUMXth century, almost the entire territory of modern Mali was subordinated to the French and received the name French Sudan.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 13 January 2013 14: 34
      +4
      Quote: fenix57
      The article can be called "RETURN OF COLONIES". ".. By the beginning of the XNUMXth century, almost the entire territory of modern Mali was subordinated to the French and received the name French Sudan.


      Or "Creation of a second Afghanistan"
      The military operation, as explained in the Champs Elysees, has two objectives: to drive out Islamic militants from the country and protect six thousand French citizens living in Mali. But for now, judging by the incoming data, what is happening cannot be called a small victorious war.



      Mali Majahideen are preparing for the invasion of foreign Harbis ...

      1. Guun
        Guun 13 January 2013 20: 17
        +3
        The first video showed that if the French would not intervene, then in the coming months the president of Mali would have removed the agent of the pro-Western regime. A convenient reason to call the ruler of a state a tyrant, and those who want to overthrow the pro-Western bloodsuckers with terrorists, killers and drug lords. Interesting and starving rebels in the United States They will also call it or come up with a terrible name for them. Yes, and the flu virus throughout the United States is surprising how to exterminate the country's armed population without firing a shot, especially since US citizens did not expect such a vile trumpet yuka, you see what they saw about concentration camps, so you made a new plan? Just mix all the muck in the drinking water and the poor will die and the middle and rich people will be cured by buying medicine that is poor for the poor. Well, where are you defenders of the usa, tell me 47 states caught the flu purely by accident. Yes, and even the weapons that NATO and especially France transferred to the fight against Gaddafi will show itself in Mali.
  18. Psi
    Psi 13 January 2013 11: 23
    +3
    Give the French a shovel, let them continue digging graves) and the Americans have it already. The article makes you think this is the main thing.
  19. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 13 January 2013 11: 28
    +2
    But did France get rich in wars?
    1. azat2005
      azat2005 13 January 2013 14: 06
      +2
      scraped the last penny
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 14 January 2013 10: 35
        0
        150 kg gold per day - this is the price of the invasion of France, divided fraternally
  20. bdolah
    bdolah 13 January 2013 11: 38
    +5
    I was surprised, and even in the USSR, any student would answer that western democracy is an opportunity to plunder the resources of a sovereign country freely, and any tyrant with tenderness allows it is an example of democracy.
  21. Spstas1
    Spstas1 13 January 2013 11: 53
    +5
    And why can not you hear the indignant speeches of famous human rights defenders and prisoners of conscience? ... Where are the angry statements of Alekseeva and Novodvorskaya? ...
    1. azat2005
      azat2005 13 January 2013 14: 09
      +4
      probably they fly in Mali with their breasts to protect the natives from the paddles lol lol
  22. tomket
    tomket 13 January 2013 11: 59
    +2
    France in the next fit of militancy fell into the hands of the case, what kind of inferiority complex did the Germans leave them after 40, that France is still on ... for any reason.
  23. echo
    echo 13 January 2013 12: 11
    +4
    An extra reason to think about us and our official, that we have no friends and never had. And that you need to become strong in order to protect yourself from people who profit from blood.
  24. lablizn
    lablizn 13 January 2013 12: 18
    +4
    Well, you, dear!
    France has nothing to do with it (with the exception of cannon fodder).
    The roots are deeper, which has been repeatedly discussed even at the level of interstate relations, in particular on the G20.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/623/bafh638.gif
    Take a look at the map. Mali complements the northern belt of US influence in Africa.
    Without this country, it is not closed, but it is a strategic shortcoming, I will not say that the spheres of hostilities, but something about that.
    As for France? - Well, what kind of ruler does not want a small victorious war to maintain his own reputation? (Recall Saakashvilli, and not only him).
    I repeat, the question is deeper than it seems at first glance.
    Do not forget that the US financial system is not state-owned, but controlled by a conglomerate of private investors, whose interests are sometimes not visible, but nevertheless shine through the media noise, etc.
  25. bubla5
    bubla5 13 January 2013 12: 25
    +3
    And here we always have one ruler raising the country, and the other drinking, and he is assisted by English agents, earlier like the priest Gapon and Rasputin, and now agents like Serdyukov and the oligarchs with some deputies
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 13 January 2013 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: bubla5
      and now agents like serdyukov

      By the way, Serdyukov (from the news) can change the status of a witness-accused. The representative of the Investigative Committee, Vladimir Markin, explained today, in connection with the fact that he refuses to testify.
  26. komsomolets
    komsomolets 13 January 2013 12: 26
    +4
    It turns out that Soviet propaganda about the colonial policy of Western countries is also relevant in the 21st century. For nothing, the USSR did not make a breakthrough to the English Channel in vain. As our good old Red Empire is lacking now
  27. lablizn
    lablizn 13 January 2013 12: 53
    +4
    Dear like-minded people! (As I would like to call compatriots
    Ukrainians, Belarusians. Kazakhs, Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks. Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Turkmens, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians and many other nations and ethnic groups of Russia).
    Topic: Africa is the underbelly of the Middle East, and what’s happening there, no comments are needed. But the Middle East is very close (not for nothing, near!) From the borders not only of Russia, but also of those states whose nations I have listed. They are separated in political terms, very much in military-strategic, and this is a tidbit for anyone.
    Do not be seduced by the assurances of the West. It is on the verge of destabilization and inevitable collapse, not only financial, it’s not so bad, but also geosocial, and this is already scary, since there are no effective means of counteracting large-scale social adverse changes in the geopolitical map of the world, except for means of mass destruction.
    And this is a scribe to us and everyone else.
  28. CCA
    CCA 13 January 2013 12: 58
    +3
    Everything that is being discussed is true, but this fact is also interesting ...
    The most important thing that happened on January 11 is that the “liberal” imperial world system has dealt a sensitive blow to its own fundamentals and principles with its actions, once again showing its true face. In full accordance with the concepts of Sergey Pereslegin, a situational victory in the power space may further lead to a more global defeat in the information one.
    And here it is necessary to seize the initiative and hit the arrogant faces with their own weapons ... angry
  29. lablizn
    lablizn 13 January 2013 13: 10
    +1
    Dear CCA!
    Addressing by January 11 is not quite clear, but the link does not work.
    I’m also not familiar with the concepts of Pereslegin, if it’s not difficult to clarify, I think that for many residents of the site it will be interesting.
  30. Onotollah
    Onotollah 13 January 2013 13: 32
    +5
    There is an opinion that Russia can extract a good political and material profit from the current situation.
    For example, skillfully spur excitement blackSorry African citizens in the same France. But only neatly, so that the whole EU does not blaze. And on the other hand, maybe to hell with it with this EU? He’ll leave for NATO, it’s only to our advantage.
    In the same Syria it will be easier.
  31. komsomolets
    komsomolets 13 January 2013 13: 34
    +4
    Western capitalists lose control of the situation, so they begin to rush, flog a fever. During all these actions, the true face of the world system is clearly visible. Russia needs to inflate this whole world in its favor while there is time. Well, something like that
  32. lablizn
    lablizn 13 January 2013 13: 38
    +3
    Offer to admin.
    Why not organize virtual operational tactical games (exercises, like operational staff games).
    I believe this would introduce an element of initiative, not just la-la.
  33. fenix57
    fenix57 13 January 2013 13: 54
    +1
    Foreign participation: " ... On January 12, during a telephone conversation between British Prime Minister David Cameron and French President François Hollande, an agreement was reached on Britain's assistance in the logistics and transportation of foreign troops and military equipment to Mali. However, the head of the British government ruled out the possibility of direct participation of the United Kingdom troops in the military operation. The countries of the ECOWAS bloc announced the dispatch of 10 military contingent to Mali within 2000 days] ... "- [/i] -see Wikipedia
  34. segamegament
    segamegament 13 January 2013 13: 59
    +9
    MOGADISHU. Somalia. How many sweet sounds, for the heart of the Russian merged ...
  35. lablizn
    lablizn 13 January 2013 14: 16
    +3
    Yes, information on France’s negotiations with NATO’s coalition is hanging around the net,
    but! -How reliable is this?
    I repeat, France, as a state, any military action against the Islamic world is very fraught with damn consequences for herself. Then the question is, why she needs problems, keep in mind! - on your territory (take a note - how many followers of Islam live in France, and there are a lot of radical movements).
    So the question is -Qui bono? But easier, whose donkey ears stick out for this adventure?
    Do not think that we are here alone so smart!
    China, too, is not asleep, and its immediate neighbors, if they have no nuts in their heads, are also not indifferent to the situation.
    As for the remark about double standards, this is an old story that seems to have entered into the world practice not only of superpowers, but also of satellites of indefinite affiliation (in politics they are called conditional marginals, in other pederast circles).
  36. megatherion
    megatherion 13 January 2013 14: 19
    +2
    Let them fight until the green toilet paper runs out or patience with the French taxpayers.

    PS - Is it true that Hollande's speeches are written in Washington?

    - Yes, why?
  37. boris.radevitch
    boris.radevitch 13 January 2013 14: 22
    +1
    The French will be hot in Mali! tongue
  38. Volozhanin
    Volozhanin 13 January 2013 14: 38
    0
    As for S.B. Pereslegin, whom I respect, I can recommend to all those who are interested in his "Self-Study Guide for Playing on the World Chess Board", a very tasty book. FOR neo-colonialism or something like that. I give him a plus and applaud him.
  39. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 13 January 2013 14: 38
    +4
    Paris first helped the Islamists to penetrate Mali and gain a foothold. and now it rings to the whole world that it seems like it helps Mali to free itself from Islamists, after the victory France will have a strong influence on the government of Mali as an irreplaceable liberator and "disinterested" assistant in the fight against Islamism, Simple and uncomplicated pattern
  40. djon3volta
    djon3volta 13 January 2013 14: 43
    +5
    what good news!
    South Korea is outraged by the trick of the Russian deputy
    The people's deputy of Primorye sent Kim Jong-un a picture in which the DPRK leader on horseback treads the flags of America and South Korea. A deputy of the Legislative Assembly of Primorsky Krai in honor of the birthday of the leader of North Korea sent him a picture that depicts Kim Jong-un on a horse. A steed on the canvas tramples the flags of South Korea and the USA.
    laughing
    1. polly
      polly 13 January 2013 15: 21
      +6
      Oil painting ...
    2. mda
      mda 13 January 2013 17: 10
      0
      Quote: djon3volta
      Russian deputy

      Still, we have patriotic deputies ...
  41. MG42
    MG42 13 January 2013 14: 54
    +6
    There is a revival of colonial policy. European countries are faced with the problem of further development = crisis = need replenishment of resources = as in the good old days. hi
  42. Apollo
    Apollo 13 January 2013 15: 01
    +5
    last imf from mali

    One of the leaders of the Islamists killed in clashes with the army in Mali

    MOSCOW, January 13 - RIA Novosti. Iyad Ag Ghaly, the closest aide to the leader of the radical Islamist movement Anasar al-Din (Defenders of the Faith), was killed in a battle for the city of Kona in central Mali, Agence France Presse reported on Sunday, citing local security forces. ...
    According to the agency, with the death of Abdel "Kojak" Krim, the militants suffered a serious blow.


    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130113/917918435.html#ixzz2Hqu5mEiE
    1. Guun
      Guun 13 January 2013 20: 37
      +1
      Most likely it’s infa to raise the spirits for the troops of the Prezik of Mali. And there are not one or two closest helpers there, believe me, even if they killed the spirit of the militants, they will not break it.
  43. Rubik
    Rubik 13 January 2013 15: 15
    +3
    President Mali studied not only in Nice, but also in the Soviet Union. This is not a word in the article.
  44. lablizn
    lablizn 13 January 2013 15: 26
    +3
    A precedent in the arena of world politics, frankly, is not very pleasant!
    France is not a superpower! She is simply not able to dictate any conditions to anyone, without external support. And the point is not even the number of strike forces (and France, do not forget, a nuclear power!).
    Currently, both France and the entire Western European coalition,
    It does not have significant military-political immunity against the effects of any serious military threats. Hence the convulsive actions of NATO coalitionists.
    I don’t know how much Russian diplomatic leverage has worked out over the Syrian issue, but the topic has been a bit sack lately.
    And this is a painful blow, which is there to hide, against a potential enemy in the person of USA).
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 13 January 2013 23: 06
      +1
      Quote: lablizn
      A precedent in the arena of world politics, frankly, is not very pleasant!
      France is not a superpower! She is simply not able to dictate any conditions to anyone, without external support. And the point is not even the number of strike forces (and France, do not forget, a nuclear power!).

      In the event of a war with Iran, the West needs to somehow compensate for possible interruptions in oil supplies from the Middle East. It seems that Libya and Mali are links in one chain.
  45. anfreezer
    anfreezer 13 January 2013 16: 03
    0
    Here are the first: well, straight Rambo with a French stripe, behind him is the power of all "Western democracy", transnational companies and syndicates and their tamed jackals ...

    Here are the second ones: only their land and desire and the RIGHT to solve their internal issues themselves ...
  46. anfreezer
    anfreezer 13 January 2013 16: 15
    0
    Here are the first ones: straight French Rambo, behind him all the power of "Western democracy", transnational syndicates and companies and their tamed jackals ...
  47. vagabo
    vagabo 13 January 2013 16: 25
    +4
    I allow myself a couple of comments.
    Firstly, the coup d'état in Bamako was not particularly threatened by the economic interests of France. The only thing that worried public opinion was that in a country that is part of Francophonie (the Commonwealth of French-speaking states), which was still considered relatively stable, everything suddenly went to pieces. Maybe the media were silent about the situation in Mali, but not in France.
    But to a much greater extent, the coup in Bamako touched the African Union, which reacts very sharply to the unconstitutional change of power in African countries. There, automatic suspension of membership and further - until the military intervention.
    Now about the events in the north of Mali. What happened there is directly related to previous Libyan affairs. From there flowed weapons and militants for the Islamists. First, the Tuareg revolted, which he always fed and at the same time kept Gaddafi in check. He nurtured the idea of ​​creating the United States of Africa and played an important peacekeeping role, keeping the Tuareg-prone excesses from anti-government protests, in particular in Mali. After the death of Gaddafi, the orphaned Tuaregs did not hold back. However, they were quickly supplanted by the Islamists, who took advantage of the Tuareg’s victory in the north. Moreover, there was no talk of any rebellion against a specific not too legitimate president. The Tuaregs simply took advantage of the confusion in Bamako.
    As for the upcoming ECOWAS operation. It is expected that it will be deployed no earlier than September, but the Islamists recently launched a preemptive strike, which led to limited French intervention in order to support government forces. In this case, it is impossible to talk about violating the sovereignty of Mali, because the French are there with the consent of the government (well, the one that is). By the way, the entire population of the south warmly welcomes this support.
    The counting of opposing forces in general has nothing to do with reality. Only ECOWAS (a regional association that has taken the initiative) is ready to send troops. 3000 Afro-Union soldiers this is not at all a question, as well as the dispatch of UN peacekeepers.
    Government forces have 2-3 relatively combat-ready battalions (paratroopers, etc.). They are not enough. Without external support, they will not be able to cope with well-armed militants. The forces of Islamists and Tuaregs are more difficult to calculate, but, I think, the author is not far from the truth.
    French neocolonialism is a separate issue.
    1. cassar
      cassar 13 January 2013 19: 59
      +1
      It's nice that there are sane people on this site, I completely agree with your comments.
    2. Guun
      Guun 13 January 2013 23: 13
      0
      Quote: vagabo
      After the death of Gaddafi, the orphaned Tuaregs did not hold back. However, they were quickly supplanted by the Islamists, who took advantage of the Tuareg’s victory in the north.

      Isn't the Tuareg and the militants allied? One goal seems to have appeared - to provide the French with an unforgettable signature technique in the style of shooting out of nowhere.
      1. vagabo
        vagabo 14 January 2013 11: 03
        0
        No, Tuaregs and Islamists are not in union. Moreover, now they are in contra. As already written, the Tuaregs captured the north of Mali and announced the creation of their state. But the Islamists very quickly bombarded them with Libyan weapons and seized power almost everywhere. Islamists do not need a Tuareg state.
  48. LINKorVARYAG
    LINKorVARYAG 13 January 2013 17: 07
    +1
    Reminds the beginning of two world wars! God forbid!
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah 14 January 2013 08: 35
      0
      Yes, especially the situation in Syria - in fact, Spain, 1936.
  49. spirit
    spirit 13 January 2013 17: 25
    +2
    Africa is a big cake! for which a fight will constantly go. who knows how and tries to grab a piece! China is investing and arming. The French love bloody methods, they have already cleaned up oil in Libya, and now they will clean up the gold. One thing is certain, all of them do not care about the native Africans. So until Africa is a large centralized state (which is doubtful) there will be blood and sharing there constantly.
  50. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 13 January 2013 18: 24
    +6
    The world does not change.
    Poverty, hungry Europe in ancient and Middle Ages also did not want to work, she lived due to the robbery of her neighbors.
    The whole history of the peoples of Europe is an endless predatory war against neighbors, first neighbors, then distant ones.
    The colonial French empire collapsed in the 60 years, when it was thrown out of Algeria and from other countries, and now the land is completely gone, the loot comes to an end, and so many loans have been taken that it will never pay off.
    What is left? Only robbery. Moreover, the USSR does not exist and there is no one to ask the victims of aggression.
    But now is not the Middle Ages, Africa is constantly fighting and the warrior is full there, so that the paddlers can be firmly given in little hands.
    1. Guun
      Guun 13 January 2013 23: 17
      +1
      Quote: Corsair5912
      so that the paddles can be firmly given hand in hand.

      Africa recently, as we know, began to give preference to China, after the failure in Sudan (the Chinese were simply kicked out there), the Chinese realized that they simply would not give them African pie. Strengthening the east leads to a weakening of the west, so the world can be arranged.