American reporters: Ukraine's forces and resources are melting, but Russia's forces and resources look endless

American experts are discussing a situation in which almost all leading Western analysts were wrong in their forecasts that Russia “is about to exhaust its economic and military potential and suffer a crushing defeat.”

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who was at the summit of the Turkic peoples in Central Asia, very frankly spoke about what plan the collective West, including the EU, had for Ukraine to confront Russia. According to Orban, the West proceeded from the fact that anti-Russian sanctions and huge military-technical assistance to Ukraine would lead to the defeat of the Russian Federation, a change of power and, ultimately, to the fact that Kiev (and in fact Washington and Brussels) would sign the agreement on their own terms with other Russian leadership.

The Hungarian Prime Minister indicated that this plan failed, but many Western politicians continue to see it as the only solution to the Ukrainian conflict, not wanting to accept reality.

Against this background, attention was drawn to the material in NBC News, which states that more and more European and American politicians “are trying to convince Kiev of the need to begin peace negotiations with Moscow.” The reason for this desire is that Ukraine’s counter-offensive did not bring the results that were hoped for, and the armed conflict itself, according to NBC, “has reached a dead end.”

From the material:

It is becoming increasingly difficult to provide assistance to Ukraine. At the same time, Ukraine’s own forces and resources are dwindling, while Russia’s forces and resources seem endless.

The publication refers to Western military personnel who talk about the “stalemate nature of the Ukrainian conflict,” and adds that the West is informally giving Ukraine until the end of the year to demonstrate something at the front. If this does not happen, then in 2024 the number of Western leaders advocating peace negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow, taking into account actual realities, will only grow.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

This is just the beginning. Depletion, degradation.

[Pankrat25]

Would you be so kind as to indicate more specifically who is going to become exhausted and degrade? And we will see together whether you are for the Reds or for the Whites?

[dmi.pris1]

The depletion of reason there came a long time ago. Everything else is added to this gradually. I am neither for the Reds nor for the Whites. I am for reason

[Pankrat25]

Those. Are you, even hiding behind a pseudonym, afraid to make your position public?! Which raises doubts: aren’t you an exiled Cossack?!

[dmi.pris1]

Read my comments, you are the only one who doesn’t know my position.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Read my comments, you are the only one who doesn’t know my position.

Why alone? With me, you are also targeted as a carrier of enemy propaganda. Whether it was intentional or voluntary, I don’t know, so I can’t say anything more about your position.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Read my comments, you are the only one who doesn’t know my position.

I’ve been reading your comments almost every day for two years now... and I still don’t understand your position. Depending on the comment, she looks from “all lost” to “masquerading as a friend, but in reality she is an enemy.”

[Repellent]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

looks from "everyone" to "masquerading as a friend, but in reality - an enemy"

Oddly enough - a plus. The personality is muddy and the horse is dark

[Roman Efremov]

Express yourself clearly and precisely - and people will be drawn to you.

[Msi]

Which raises doubts: aren’t you an exiled Cossack?!

There is enough reason to believe that this is the case...

[PROVINCIAL]

This is true. I read this character in my spare time and got cognitive dissonance. He writes in the style of a u-patriotic sandwich stuffed with negativity inside, to sow doubts). The technology is not new - I use it myself. The passenger is not an easy one, he received a cheat in his status. Well, God bless him. Let him write. The main thing is that he knows that we know) You can simply downvote all of his 20K with a bunch of comments. Long... But if you set a goal)

[Repellent]

Quote: PROVINCIAL

You can just downvote all of his 20K with a bunch of comments

This could have been done five years ago. Now - you can’t, well, unless, of course, you hacked the site’s database.

[Msi]

You can just downvote all of his 20K with a bunch of comments. Long.. But if you put

And the admins will knock down your rating or even delete you for violating the site rules... I already have a third profile... two blocked, forever...

[igorbrsv]

. You can just downvote all of his 20K with a bunch of comments. Long... But if you set a goal)

there was already a conspiracy here. For a long time, conspirators were identified among the "marshals"
Names, passwords, identities were exposed and "put on public display"
So this is not the place for you. The conspiracy will be exposed

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: igorbrsv

Names, passwords, identities were exposed and "put on public display"

Come on... Really?

[Msi]

Names, passwords, identities were exposed and “put on public display” laughing
So this is not the place for you. The conspiracy will be exposed fellow

I would be very grateful if you would duplicate the information. Did not see. I know someone who is not from Russia... I don’t see any violation in finding out the commentator’s affiliation with one country or another...
To establish international relations, so to speak... and proper communication...

[Repellent]

Quote from Msi

I would be very grateful if you would duplicate the information. Did not see

It won't give you anything. The matter is old, most of the nicknames that were related are no longer here.

In short, one of the site’s moderators started shooting people who were chasing trolls here. As a result, a viper of “Svarogs”, “Stasiks”, “Lannonshes” and other, ahem, evil spirits grew up. True, now they are also... turned up so that they don’t smoke too much, probably.

In short - “that’s the whole story” (c)

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Repellent

so as not to smoke too much

What do you mean, they didn’t shine?

[PROVINCIAL]

Thanks for the info. Did not know. Although I myself have been on the site since 2014. Then a question for the site organizers - who are you? How did the site turn into a garbage dump under current conditions? At what stage was the influence intercepted? Or is it time to forward this question to the competent services? In fact, the changes are not visible to the naked eye. The external theme remains. But... too many alternative opinions have appeared - promoting certain narratives. Questions, questions

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: PROVINCIAL

How did the site turn into a garbage dump under current conditions?

It’s elementary: precisely in the current conditions, trolls are multiplying, and driving them away from the site is unprofitable, as before, because the number of active forum participants and subscribers increases its rating and income.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Pankrat25

Those. Are you, even hiding behind a pseudonym, afraid to make your position public?!

What a pseudonym... He covered himself with an image of a poster with a victorious Soviet soldier. Avatar like this.

[Msi]

Would you be so kind as to indicate more specifically who is going to become exhausted and degrade? And we will see together whether you are for the Reds or for the Whites

Correctly noted. There are many neutral comments, let's say, for example - For our victory... For whose??? More specifically?

[Argon]

What kind of nonsense they put forward just so as not to tell it like it is! Everything goes according to plan! Washington has endless money, reconnaissance of what Russia is capable of has been carried out! Depletion of the Russian economy? Well, there is a little. What can red lines do? Move! What else did this SVO give? The fact that they didn’t call it a full-fledged war and there was no general mobilization says that we haven’t started yet!

[Repellent]

I see you will be one of the pessimists. Well, these are the ones whose glass is always half empty and whose cognac smells like bedbugs

Quote: Argon

Washington has endless money

It is not.

Quote: Argon

reconnaissance of what Russia is capable of has been carried out

The reconnaissance results are just not very good. And so, yes, it was done. Money spent

Quote: Argon

Depletion of the Russian economy? Well there is a little

You apparently know a lot more than I do. Share your secret knowledge, don't skimp.

Quote: Argon

The fact that they didn’t call it a full-fledged war...

... this is very correct. And, by the way, it’s generally accepted - tell me a couple of “wars” 50 years ago, for example... all special operations. Fools, apparently, everyone who carried them out... or you

Quote: Argon

there was no general mobilization

Cockroaches are not crushed by tanks. I'm talking about Ukraine. Now, if, for example, NATO gets in, you will squirrel and whistle mobilization.

Quote: Argon

says we haven't started yet

But this is already a marker. For paid trolls. Are you really one of those people? Friendly?

[Argon]

Thank you for taking the trouble to respond to the post in such detail. I’ll be honest, I’m almost a pessimist. On the edge, so to speak. I watch it slowly and analyze it. The United States is not a fool, just to hand over all the equipment to the Ukrainians. They left more for stock, just like us. No one is zealously invested in this campaign. Although NATO, in general, has developed strongly, but again, let me note, not completely! About the economy, I’ll say this, you probably live in a forest or in a village, where you can plant and collect all the food?! That’s why I’m writing about the slightly sagging economy at the moment and didn’t talk about the prospects, which I don’t know. Maybe they said something in your ear? The fact that they didn’t call it war suggests that if we call it that, it won’t seem like enough to them, and then it will be the beginning of something that hasn’t yet begun! Adestend? Otherwise, I would like for the Bandera region to be smashed to smithereens, but we’re still treading water for a long time. They're probably waiting until I go there. )))

[Repellent]

Lots of books, and mostly banal. I don't comment. But I note that the character has talentedly blossomed from

Quote: Argon

What else did this SVO give? The fact that they didn’t call it a full-fledged war and there was no general mobilization says that we haven’t started yet!

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Quote: Argon

No one is zealously invested in this campaign. Although yes, NATO in general has developed strongly

Progress? I don't think so, more like mimicry.

Quote: Argon

The fact that they didn’t call it war suggests that if we call it that, it won’t seem like enough to them, and then it will be the beginning of something that hasn’t yet begun!

This is delirium, feverish.

They won’t call it a war, so as not to fall under UN sanctions. This is a very unpleasant thing, Google it, educate yourself. But that is precisely why for the last half century, at least, no one declared war on anyone

Quote: Argon

we've been stomping around for a long time

Everyone thinks he is a strategist
Seeing the battle from the side

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Argon

we've been stomping around for a long time

Run like crazy if it’s hot, what else can I tell you. Or is it already burning straight out?

[Fitter65]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

This is just the beginning. Depletion, degradation.

Degradation cannot be exhausted...

[Cartalon]

When reports come from the front line that the Ukrainian artillery is silent, I will believe such speeches.

[Pankrat25]

When reports come from the front line that the Ukrainian artillery is silent, I will believe such speeches.

This will not happen, the artillerymen will simply speak not in Surzhik, but in Polish, German, French, English...

[Grits]

Quote: Pankrat25

This will not happen, the artillerymen will simply speak not in Surzhik, but in Polish, German, French, English...

I think that in this case our artillery will use slightly different ammunition

[Lech from Android.]

"A new world order with US hegemony is being created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia."

Well... this slogan of Brzezinski must be turned 180 degrees.

“The new world order under Russian hegemony must be created against the United States, at the expense of
USA and on the wreckage of the USA."

There are plenty of people in the world who are offended by US policy...they need to unite and march against this evil empire.

[Feodor13]

What kind of stalemate are Western “chess experts” talking about?
They wouldn't disgrace themselves. Chess players..

Most likely here
the last phase of the middlegame, in conditions of advancing time pressure on the side,
starting the game with a new, open opening: "Neo-Nazi Gambit"
For the fastest development of which, White has already sacrificed almost all of his pieces.
Obviously, a weakly theorized debut of the Western school of military-political thought.

Seryoga Karyakin could have provided them with more accurate advice, right from the front line!

[Pankrat25]

For the fastest development of which, White has already sacrificed almost all of his pieces.

So far, only pawns have been used, and only a couple, then you can exchange a piece, and only then the shame of negotiations...

[tralflot1832]

For the West, the conflict has reached a dead end, then only their defeat. Everyone has forgotten about victory on the battlefield - now they are inclined to negotiate on their own terms. If NATO wants peace, then they will have to go through the shame (for them) of negotiations.

[rotmistr60]

It is becoming increasingly difficult to provide assistance to Ukraine. At the same time, Ukraine’s own forces and resources are dwindling, while Russia’s forces and resources seem endless.

But at the same time they continue to expect that Ukraine will demonstrate something at the front. If it couldn’t in five months, starting with prepared reserves, a large amount of Western equipment, then what can it demonstrate today by suffering significant losses and wasting reserves?

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: rotmistr60

But at the same time they continue to expect that Ukraine will demonstrate something at the front.

The old habit of squeezing out every last cent.

The wife wanted to stop her husband from drinking. I tried this and this - nothing
helped. I decided to turn to my friends, and they advised me to buy a bucket
vodka and throw a dead cat in it so that he will have an aversion to
alcohol for life. She did just that. He comes home from work and sees:
The husband stands over an empty bucket, squeezes out the cat and says: - Well, a little bit, well.
a little bit!

[nectarkill]

Apart from the great Ukrainians, no one is going to defeat us on the battlefield. The goal of the USA and NATO is to force us to do economic nonsense against the backdrop of war, and they have already succeeded in this, look what Nabiulina and the Central Bank are doing, there was just complete inaction with hints of corruption, speculators were shaking the ruble and knew that she would not take any action, she had to Even Putin should interfere. Was it necessary to do it at 50 dollars? Of course we need to show how strong we are. Right now another story of borrowing begins in the form of 4 trillion for the coming years, there are no foreigners to buy our OFZs, the population will not buy that much, so who will buy them? That's right, our banks, the Central Bank will print money for this. Hello inflation, it’s good if it’s not in Turkey. Little by little they are strangling us and will end up like the USSR if the wrong decisions are made. And they will always find money for Ukraine to crush us

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: nectarkill

And they will always find money for Ukraine to crush us

So, to be honest, is Ukraine putting a lot of pressure on us, or has the pan really put a lot of pressure on your head? Like a "neurasthenic's helmet."

[ZovSailor]

Political prostitutes represented by the media once again confirm
assertion that who finances the media,
he dictates and orders the music, so to speak, for use
for your own purposes and interests.

[maiman61]

Yekhsperdy! What stalemate? Did you fall off the stove? The Russian army is BECOMING stronger every day. The defense industry works around the clock producing new and modernized weapons. NEW types of weapons are being adopted, which are first being tested on the Banderaites and their Western satanic friends! Expect a jaw-dropping blow! We're already tired of waiting.

[digger]

Ukrovermacht is a disposable racing engine designed for one race.
The weak army of Ukraine, which does not have its own industry/economy and military-industrial complex...as well as intelligence and satellites, can, like a weak engine, be inflated to the point of indecency. Therefore, they put a huge turbine in a weak engine and also add a raccoon snack (nitrous oxide) and the result is a monster with enormous power... but everything has a price... with such parameters, this swollen engine will only live one race and die. Likewise, the weak army of Ukraine... bloated to the point of indecency, is designed for one race... and that's all... they have already spent a raccoon snack on their counterattack......

The Russian army is such a lazy low-speed naturally aspirated engine with a huge volume. It slowly picks up speed, but when it gets hot, it produces locomotive traction... which cannot be stopped... and it has a motor with a huge margin of strength and extreme reliability that can travel millions of kilometers.

[Vasyan1971]

more and more European and American politicians “are trying to convince Kyiv of the need to begin peace negotiations with Moscow.”

Oh come on! Either they say that Kyiv is a weak-willed puppet, or they “strive to convince.” Someone needs to either take off the cross or put on panties...

[Andy_nsk]

Oh come on! Either they say that Kyiv is a weak-willed puppet, or they “strive to convince.” Someone needs to either take off the cross or put on panties...

the truth is always somewhere closer to the middle

[Pavel_Sveshnikov]

Well, actually, it is the American media that are creating an information background for their inhabitants for the upcoming drain of the outskirts. They naturally take into account the growing dissatisfaction with the Ukrainian project within their country. They are trying to smooth it over. But this has little effect on the current situation at the front. The Ukrovermacht is still snarling and we have a long and difficult path to go before it falls.

[TermNachTer]

In order to understand such a genital idea, just look at the map)))

[lukash66]

Once every hundred years they step on the same rake. Are you tired of it yet? And most importantly, the bet was made on a random person, a drug addict and a complete imbecile.

[Andrey “andrewTSO” D]

Well, stupid! (M. Zadornov)
Captain Obvious, iteration 185473rd

[Andrey “andrewTSO” D]

the armed conflict, according to NBC, has “reached a dead end”

Ukraine’s own forces and resources are melting away, while Russia’s forces and resources look endless

Nothing bothers the campaign of these “onalitags”...)
And generally speaking

about the stalemate

they say in any situation when there is NO OPPORTUNITY for either party to take the next step! Does Russia have no opportunity?!?! Yes, as a last resort, bombard the whole world with nuclear weapons - and every penny of horseradish! And if we talk specifically about the SVO - act like the IDF, collect 70% of all missiles, Lancets, Geraniums, TOS, Hurricanes (and other things) and fry them in ONE(!) gulp! Then we’ll see where the “stalemate” is! ))))