Russian Foreign Ministry: Closing the Baltic Sea for Russia means closing it for everyone

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Russian Foreign Ministry: Closing the Baltic Sea for Russia means closing it for everyone

Last year, when Finland and Sweden applied to join NATO, there was talk that the Baltic Sea could turn into an “internal lake” of the alliance.

Today Finland is already a full member of the Western military bloc. Actually, the adoption of Sweden, apparently, is just around the corner. At the end of last month, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan proposed that parliament ratify the protocol on Sweden's admission to NATO.



At the same time, the rhetoric of alliance members regarding the Baltic Sea has also changed. If earlier they talked mainly about strengthening the presence and control of its waters by NATO forces, now options are being considered for completely closing the Baltic to Russia.

At least, this is the scenario voiced by Latvian President Edgars Rinkevics a couple of weeks ago. According to him, Russian ships will be completely deprived of access to the Baltic Sea if evidence of our country’s involvement in undermining the Balticconnector gas pipeline is discovered.

In turn, commenting on such statements during the Eurasian Economic Forum, Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation Alexander Grushko noted that figures of speech like “NATO’s internal sea” in relation to the Baltic are used only by “lightweight politicians.”

As the Russian diplomat put it, those people who actually make decisions must understand that closing the Baltic Sea to Russia means closing it to everyone.

Those who try to realize these dreams into practical action must be aware of all the negative consequences for them that they can lead to

- summed up Grushko.
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    1. +18
      3 November 2023 12: 53
      It looks like our country will have to cut a window to Europe again.
      1. +32
        3 November 2023 12: 55
        And “from the feet”))
      2. +12
        3 November 2023 12: 56
        cut a window to Europe

        yeah, and it looks like a nuclear ax...
        1. +3
          3 November 2023 13: 39
          Quote from Chem1st
          yeah, and it looks like a nuclear ax...

          Without a nuclear axe, we simply have no strength and no chance. Unfortunately, we have to admit this - our Baltic Fleet cannot oppose NATO and can be drowned at any moment like blind kittens. And even without the use of fleets of NATO countries.
          1. +18
            3 November 2023 13: 55
            Quote: Gritsa
            Quote from Chem1st
            yeah, and it looks like a nuclear ax...

            Without a nuclear axe, we simply have no strength and no chance. Unfortunately, we have to admit this - our Baltic Fleet cannot oppose NATO and can be drowned at any moment like blind kittens. And even without the use of fleets of NATO countries.


            The Baltic Sea in modern realities is a small puddle that is completely blocked by aircraft and missiles, even without a fleet at all. And Russia’s existing fleet in the Baltic can fire at the enemy without ever leaving territorial waters. We also must not forget that a large ship moving even at full speed is a very convenient and slow target. So the answer from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs seems to be about this. And since the powerful US fleet is not only far from its native shores, but also the sea will be crowded, Russia may well arrange a shipwreck (to the bottom) for any NATO fleet if something starts.
            This is what our Foreign Ministry is saying: if anything happens, the Baltic Sea will become impassable for everyone at once. But it’s more profitable for us than for them...
            1. -7
              3 November 2023 16: 47
              Even Ukraine has shown that in modern realities the fleet no longer decides anything. Because the piece of iron is too big and too slow in open spaces, which has nowhere to hide.
              And any ship can easily be sunk at almost any distance.
              Although if you hang screens around the ship like on tanks, then maybe it will be useful)))
            2. -7
              3 November 2023 16: 48
              Even Ukraine has shown that in modern realities the fleet no longer decides anything. Because the piece of iron is too big and too slow in open spaces, which has nowhere to hide.
              And any ship can easily be sunk at almost any distance.
              Although if you hang screens around the ship like on tanks, then maybe it will be useful)))
              1. +1
                4 November 2023 11: 14
                Quote from: topol717
                Even Ukraine has shown that in modern realities the fleet no longer decides anything.

                A very strange statement. The main task of the fleet is not to shell the shore, but to destroy merchant shipping.
          2. +3
            3 November 2023 17: 54
            Quote: Gritsa
            our Baltic Fleet cannot oppose anything to NATO
            And there’s no need to drop mines from airplanes and sink minesweepers with BALs and Bastions.
          3. +1
            3 November 2023 19: 55
            Quote: Gritsa
            And even without the use of fleets of NATO countries.

            And who then? Kraken? Or the Little Mermaid?
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      4. +20
        3 November 2023 12: 58
        Finish the renovation in the room called Ukraine first, and then cut down the windows. hi
        1. -20
          3 November 2023 13: 13
          Finish the renovation in the room called Ukraine first, and then cut down the windows.


          Certainly no one will ask you how and in what order we should act. Take a pill, otherwise you're overexcited laughing
          1. -1
            3 November 2023 15: 15
            Quote: Colt
            Take a pill, otherwise you're overexcited


            Have you taken Zelensky’s fashion by swallowing “sedative” pills?
            1. -2
              5 November 2023 22: 14
              Have you taken Zelensky’s fashion by swallowing “sedative” pills?


              1) It is common knowledge that Seltzer does not swallow pills. He snorts coke.

              2) I offered to eat the pill to the commentator. What do I “and my fashion” have to do with this? This way, any doctor can be labeled as a “Zelensky drug addict.” And what, they, these doctors, also advise “eating” pills in different situations laughing
      5. +16
        3 November 2023 13: 12
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        It looks like our country will have to cut a window to Europe again.

        is it necessary?!
        last time they cut through it, so much crap blew through that window
        1. +3
          3 November 2023 13: 17
          is it necessary?!
          last time they cut through it, so much crap blew through that window

          Of course, you can do nothing...you will be blocked from all trade routes, all trade with the outside world with such a position...and you will die quietly in your den, deprived of the goods the country needs.
          It was not in vain that Peter the Great fought for access to the Baltic Sea.
          1. 0
            3 November 2023 14: 01
            Petya 1 didn’t have much of a choice...
            Multi-vector development was not observed then. And now there are a lot of options. And in fact, the domestic market is very far from saturation.
            1. +2
              3 November 2023 14: 27
              Quote: Zestrum
              Petya 1 didn’t have much of a choice...

              He had a choice.
              He could have simply taken the spratia from the defeated Swedes, but he bought it back.
            2. Alf
              +2
              3 November 2023 18: 15
              Quote: Zestrum
              And in fact, the domestic market is very far from saturation.

              And the rusting Moskvich 3 for three lemons confirms this...
          2. 0
            3 November 2023 16: 45
            So, Alexey, you don’t live in our country since you won’t die with us? winked
            In general, it’s better to read the article carefully
            . this scenario was voiced by the President of Latvia Edgars Rinkevichs a couple of weeks ago

            So what can we talk about here?
            Some mongrel coughed two weeks ago.
          3. +4
            3 November 2023 16: 47
            Peter I did not fight for this.
            Peter's strategic goal is to create on the basis of Russia an advanced world power with free access to the OCEAN. And the window to Europe is a tactic. There were two such contenders who stayed late at the start - Russia and Sweden. So they got into a fight, and the British competently removed two competitors from the Atlantic. So Peter did not solve the problem, but limited himself to tactical success.
            However, the window helped a lot, opening social elevators, allowing the creation of a service class, giving a qualitative acceleration to all industry and science (the Academy is Peter, and the University is Petrov’s daughter Elizabeth). But his main merit, no matter what they write about despotism and cruelty, is the abolition of slavery in 1721.
            1. Alf
              +3
              3 November 2023 18: 15
              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              abolition of slavery in 1721

              And not in 1861?
              1. 0
                3 November 2023 18: 47
                In 1861, Alexander II abolished serfdom (and then with great reservations regarding the land). And serfdom was abolished (sorry, I was wrong) in 1723. A serf is a powerless creature, without property and will - a serf - another matter, already a house and a household. And the path to freedom for slaves was the Northern War. There was an article by a Swedish historian, “We were defeated by an army of slaves.”
                1. Alf
                  +2
                  3 November 2023 18: 49
                  Quote: Victor Leningradets
                  In 1861, Alexander II abolished serfdom (and then with great reservations regarding the land). And servitude was abolished (sorry, I was wrong) in 1723.

                  What's the difference, please clarify. I'm not kidding, it's really interesting.
            2. 0
              5 November 2023 21: 27
              and the University is Petrov’s daughter Elizaveta).
              This is Moscow University, and without Lomonosov’s efforts nothing would have happened. And Petersburg (1724) is Peter.
          4. -1
            5 November 2023 22: 21
            Of course, you can do nothing...you will be blocked from all trade routes, all trade with the outside world with such a position...and you will die quietly in your den, deprived of the goods the country needs.
            It was not in vain that Peter the Great fought for access to the Baltic Sea.


            We will not die quietly in our den. Your wet dreams are impossible) Give an example of at least one country that has “died”? The “totally sanctioned” Iran and North Korea come to mind. So, did the countries die? And Russia is much stronger than those countries. And yours too wink So don't worry about us. Develop your country. And somehow we are on our own, without “brothers”, “teachers” and advisers.
      6. -3
        3 November 2023 13: 23
        Do we need it now? This is a “window to Europe”. We need to build an iron curtain against the Gay Europeans. Regarding the statement that it will be closed to everyone... I don’t think we will have to do this. Although the sense of self-preservation in the West has completely atrophied. By the way , and GDP not so long ago said that we need to take this seriously
        1. AUL
          +4
          3 November 2023 13: 39
          Here are the strategists! Just to shout louder - “Yes, let it be, we can handle everything!” Have you forgotten Kaliningrad? How to supply it, how to protect it? Cut a corridor through the Balts, right? With the help of tactical weapons?
          Students, God forgive me!
          1. +2
            3 November 2023 13: 46
            ... smile What other options do you have for solving the problem of closing the Baltic Sea to our shipping by NATO?
            1. AUL
              0
              3 November 2023 15: 01
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              What other options do you have to solve the problem?

              I have no options, I am not a politician, not the head of the Ministry of Defense and not the president. But if this threat is realized, the problem will be very serious. I only know for sure that we will not be able to resolve the problem using force.
              And some of the idiots here are throwing their hats at us, like they’ll block the Baltic for us, but we don’t care, it’s of no use to us.
          2. -2
            3 November 2023 16: 55
            Have you forgotten Kaliningrad? How to supply it, how to protect it? Cut a corridor through the Balts, right?

            I assume this means the Finnish and Estonian islands, which make it possible to block the passage of our ships through the territorial waters of these countries.
            The solution is simple: it is necessary to conduct tests of nuclear weapons of the required power (we withdrew from the agreement) in these territories in order to completely nip all disputes about the cross-country ability of the Baltic. I think the Finns will appreciate this gesture of goodwill, and the Estonians will demand their return to the Russian Federation, as they demanded to join the USSR in 1940.
        2. +5
          3 November 2023 13: 44
          You should see how Washington is consistently cutting off all Russia's trade ties with the outside world...why is it doing this?
          Ask yourself this question, I can't agree that sitting behind the Iron Curtain is a good idea.
      7. +1
        3 November 2023 15: 18
        This is what the masters of the West are counting on. Closing the Gulf of Finland for seemingly “plausible” purposes automatically entails the start of a war with NATO, because Kaliningrad finds itself cut off. It was not for nothing that Pistorius called on his army to “prepare for a big war in Europe.” By the time this provocation is well prepared, Europe will already be in decline, hunger and cold, but with updated weapons - and will easily succumb to persuasion to “occupy and divide” this barbaric Russia! There will certainly be another “Drang nach Osten”! Of course, nothing will be left of Europe in a nuclear fire, but unfortunately, little will be left of Russia either...
      8. +1
        3 November 2023 15: 23
        +, and accordingly liberate Europe from NATO, all the Tribaltic politicians and the entire top of the Russophobes of Poland to clean the farm manure together with WE&K
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      10. 0
        3 November 2023 20: 11
        Yes, apparently, not only a “window”, but a whole door, double-leaf... It is desirable that it then opens only in one direction, according to our desire.
      11. +1
        4 November 2023 01: 53
        It looks like our country will have to cut a window to Europe again.

        It would be nice just not like the first time.
    2. -6
      3 November 2023 12: 56
      For a long time now, no one believes these statements, even from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, even from Medvedev, even from Shoigu, and so on. Neither in Russia nor abroad.
      1. -8
        3 November 2023 14: 19
        For a long time now, no one believes these statements, even from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, even from Medvedev, even from Shoigu, and so on. Neither in Russia nor abroad

        There they realized that these gentlemen were all empty talkers.
    3. -6
      3 November 2023 12: 57
      I wonder what the consequences will be, are we really going to glaze over Europe? Because in response to protests, red lines and other concerns, they simply say ugh.
    4. +4
      3 November 2023 13: 00
      Grinding your tongue is not cutting wood...

      I wonder how this spratas was going to carry out his threat?
    5. +18
      3 November 2023 13: 00
      A naval blockade is a de facto declaration of war.
      1. -5
        3 November 2023 13: 09
        Oh, leave the UAVs in the Kremlin and no war, not to mention the border areas and other strategic aviation airfields, and you are talking about such trifles as a naval blockade, we are a “land power”. laughing
      2. 0
        3 November 2023 13: 43
        Quote: Corvair
        A naval blockade is a de facto declaration of war.

        The West didn’t care about all this verbiage. And, as it turned out, they are not afraid of war at all. And all because the “red lines” drawn by our commander-in-chief turned out to be simply funny and not scary at all.
    6. +19
      3 November 2023 13: 01
      The Balts are simply eager to denazify after Banderstat with all their might.
      1. +5
        3 November 2023 13: 16
        Quote from Pharmacist
        The Balts are simply eager to denazify after Banderstat with all their might.
        You still assume that the St. Petersburg-Kaliningrad highway is not superfluous at all lol
        In general he is very polite
        Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation Alexander Grushko noted that figures of speech like “NATO’s internal sea” in relation to the Baltic are used only by “lightweight politicians”
        . This particular one is not “lightweight”, but rear wheel drive: which is what he himself boasted about before the end feel that's an "achievement"
    7. KCA
      +10
      3 November 2023 13: 02
      The usual crap, that they will block our ships by exposing their sides? Mining the Baltic? Or attack our ships? Well, there’s no getting around this, this is not a military defense system, this is an incident belli and cover not with tactical nuclear weapons, but with tactical nuclear weapons with TU-95MS 200kt, we will have every right, although in the Kaliningrad region there are Bastions to disperse the flies
      1. -4
        3 November 2023 15: 25
        Quote: KCA
        The usual crap, that they will block our ships by exposing their sides? Mining the Baltic? Or attack our ships? Well, there’s no getting around this, this is not a military defense system, this is an incident belli and cover not with tactical nuclear weapons, but with tactical nuclear weapons with TU-95MS 200kt, we will have every right, although in the Kaliningrad region there are Bastions to disperse the flies

        To any attack on NATO territory, NATO itself will respond symmetrically. Are you threatening nuclear weapons? Do you think the American military will think for even a split second before striking back at Russia?
        1. +2
          3 November 2023 17: 05
          To any attack on NATO territory, NATO itself will respond symmetrically. Are you threatening nuclear weapons? Do you think the American military will think for even a split second before striking back at Russia?

          You're bluffing, my dear.
          It is clear that a war in Europe is the dream of the Americans and those who have made the European choice. But the falling Minutemen, the SSBNs surfacing at the first request of the Iranians and the shameful drop of the AUG from the shores of North Korea indicate the opposite. And there is nothing (yet) to answer them with.
          So, while throwing mines, NATO clearly understands that the Belts and Sounds can become much wider.
        2. KCA
          0
          3 November 2023 19: 21
          Learn the materiel, if the Russian Federation strikes the NATO country first, Article 5 applies there, but if the NATO country strikes first, then Russia has every right to tear it to pieces, Article 5 is about defense in the event of an attack
    8. +23
      3 November 2023 13: 05
      Frankly speaking, I see no point in discussing the nonsense of the President of Latvia
      1. +3
        3 November 2023 13: 43
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Frankly speaking, I see no point in discussing the nonsense of the President of Latvia

        I completely agree.. especially 2 weeks after the delirium, when everyone had already forgotten about it except the Ministry of Foreign Affairs..
    9. +4
      3 November 2023 13: 05
      Again chatter, not backed up by action.
      R.S. Downvote, from the heart!
      1. +4
        3 November 2023 13: 55
        What actions are you talking about? It’s like in that joke when the ensign reported that your order was carried out. But I didn’t order anything, and we didn’t do anything. What needs to be done to respond to the delusional statements of some Baltic statesman? Should we bomb right away or maybe we’ll wait and the Foreign Ministry’s response to stupid words will be enough?
    10. +4
      3 November 2023 13: 09
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I'll have to cut through the window again

      It seems to me that in the end the countries of the region will have to beg from someone for at least a piece of the shore of this very “inner lake”, which entirely belongs to this someone...)))
      1. +4
        3 November 2023 14: 40
        Quote: Andrey “andrewTSO” D
        It seems to me that in the end the countries of the region will have to beg from someone for at least a piece of the shore of this very “inner lake”, which entirely belongs to this someone...)))

        But it seems to me that as subjects of international law they again there shouldn't be.
        They couldn’t cope with independent existence.
    11. Eug
      +2
      3 November 2023 13: 09
      If the Foreign Ministry responds SUCH to an attack by Baltic diplomacy, then it turns out that the Foreign Ministry admits Russia’s involvement in the undermining? Or - enough of the “toothlessness”, it’s time to snap back?
    12. +5
      3 November 2023 13: 10
      Who is exaggerating this topic...gain/T/nutty sprat...
      The rest clearly have no time for them.
    13. +8
      3 November 2023 13: 10
      options for completely closing the Baltic to Russia are now being considered
      And the loudest people screaming about this are the insignificant creatures supported by the EU - the Balts. Western political suckers are just begging to be hit hard, after which they will immediately remember the Russian language and greet them with bread and salt.
    14. +6
      3 November 2023 13: 13
      Quote from Pharmacist
      they are simply eager for denazification

      So we heard the news from the Trebalts, today one of them blurted out: only Russian aggression can save us from... default
      1. +1
        3 November 2023 14: 45
        Quote: Andrey “andrewTSO” D
        So we heard the news from the Trebalts, today one of them blurted out: only Russian aggression can save us from... default

        A hint of a desire to sell.
    15. +6
      3 November 2023 13: 15
      President of Latvia Edgars Rinkevichs...

      The president of a country whose interests are all oceans?
      Great Britain, no matter how you treat it now, is a great maritime power in the past.
      Was Latvia at least a maritime power in the past? Or a great power?
      The Principality of Lithuania was great in the past.
      And Latvia, only in the USSR, was a great profiteer near the port.
    16. -3
      3 November 2023 13: 16
      Quote: vet
      For a long time now, no one believes these statements, even from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, even from Medvedev, even from Shoigu, and so on. Neither in Russia nor abroad.

      And so it always is. At first they don’t believe it for a long time, and then they make their eyes bulge and poop in surprise.
    17. +2
      3 November 2023 13: 18
      Renkevics said about closing the Baltic Sea for domestic consumers, look what a tiger I am. Grushko said for their consumers, no problem. The Baltic will be a closed lake for everyone, the chief fish inspector will be whoever has a bonba. Finland, by the way, is considering this option, wants to make a logistics hub with Europe in the north in the province of Finnmark. True, it can be a bit oaky there in the winter, well beyond minus 30 and with a breeze. And the Finns found someone who tested their pipeline for strength. Soon the nuclear icebreaker Ural will go home from St. Petersburg, let them try to stop it. I would like to see its hawses He left the dry dock in Kronstadt without anchor chains or anchors, there is a video.
    18. +7
      3 November 2023 13: 20
      All these statements about the closure of the Baltic Sea are “political chatter”, not supported by concrete plans and actions. There is international maritime law and simply the power of the Russian armed forces.
    19. fiv
      -4
      3 November 2023 13: 25
      No matter how this turns out to be another “red line”. Where are the muscles?
    20. +5
      3 November 2023 13: 26
      Russian Foreign Ministry: Closing the Baltic Sea for Russia means closing it for everyone

      There, in the EU, they made dart boards in the shape of the Russian Foreign Ministry...
      Here is the situation:

      Tell me, diplomats threatening reprisals, why was there no investigation of the SP explosion sites in the Baltic Sea outside territorial waters, under the cover of Baltic Fleet ships, this summer?
      Who could interfere? Was the Baltic Sea already closed to Russia then?
      * * *
      Hungry puppy...Why are you cutting figures out of your fingers for us? Show your prowess in action.
      1. +3
        3 November 2023 13: 35
        ROSS 42, An unknown person made a dart board, the Balticconnector gas pipeline. Judging by the photo in the Finnish press, they hit it from above the first time. The anchor and 60 meters of chain did their job. wassat The gas pipeline sank.
    21. +4
      3 November 2023 13: 27
      The fact that we constantly react to lackeys, in my opinion, greatly devalues ​​us.
    22. 0
      3 November 2023 13: 32
      As the Russian diplomat put it, those people who actually make decisions must understand that closing the Baltic Sea to Russia means closing it to everyone.

      Those who try to realize these dreams into practical action must be aware of all the negative consequences for them that they can lead to

      - summed up Grushko.
      Nothing. Blah-la - “We are here, we are now, we are you in general, well, etc., etc. The world only understands force, but does it exist in the Baltic? We are ready to create problems for all countries of the Baltic region, without “calibers” , "onyxes", and "iskanders"? Are you ready to defend the Kaliningrad region?!
      If anyone talks about tactical nuclear weapons, he will be right, theoretically. And without it, what measures can the Russian Federation take in response? I don't have an answer. If anyone has it, please. sad
      1. +2
        3 November 2023 14: 25
        The measures are simple - mining.
        And we will have to break through a land corridor to the Kaliningrad region.
        1. 0
          3 November 2023 17: 14
          The measures are simple - mining.

          Do you mean nuclear mining of the Belts and the Sound?
          Or immediately South Korea and Japan through the hands of North Korea and the Persian Gulf through the hands of Iran, providing the latter two with our nuclear umbrella? This would be a truly asymmetrical response, and not the snot that our Foreign Ministry is making.
      2. Alf
        +1
        3 November 2023 18: 26
        Quote: Radikal
        The world only understands force, but does the Baltic have it?




        Not much...
    23. +1
      3 November 2023 13: 44
      Europe is getting wilder year after year! It’s time for us to scratch our “turnips” (otherwise it will be very bad for everyone
    24. +3
      3 November 2023 14: 04
      When will they understand that Russia is no longer what it was before, that there is no need to talk to us in such a tone.
    25. +5
      3 November 2023 14: 07
      Quote: Gritsa
      Quote from Chem1st
      yeah, and it looks like a nuclear ax...

      Without a nuclear axe, we simply have no strength and no chance. Unfortunately, we have to admit this - our Baltic Fleet cannot oppose NATO and can be drowned at any moment like blind kittens. And even without the use of fleets of NATO countries.

      I don’t want to throw hats here, but forgive me, of course, but who is so formidable in the Baltic Sea area? Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia are just outside the brackets, Finland with a population of 5,5 million people? Sweden 10,3 million? Norway 5,4? Denmark 5,8? Countries that have never participated in a modern war have suddenly become incredibly strong opponents, armed with wunderwaffles capable of sinking our entire fleet in the Baltic Sea without nuclear weapons. Yes, of course, two fairly large countries loom on the horizon - Poland and Germany. If they fit in, it will be very difficult for us, but so that “without a chance and not enough strength,” here you are going too far, dear.
    26. +3
      3 November 2023 14: 07
      How can the Baltic be closed? Blockade of our ports by the Navy? This is war, so it's unlikely. The usual political chatter, like the chatter of our LADIES.
      1. +1
        3 November 2023 15: 14
        Of course it’s chatter, so there’s no need to react to it and there’s nothing even worth discussing here. Russophobic politicians in the Baltic countries compete with each other to please their American master.
    27. +1
      3 November 2023 14: 45
      Quote: Gritsa
      Quote from Chem1st
      yeah, and it looks like a nuclear ax...

      Without a nuclear axe, we simply have no strength and no chance. Unfortunately, we have to admit this - our Baltic Fleet cannot oppose NATO and can be drowned at any moment like blind kittens. And even without the use of fleets of NATO countries.

      Quote: Dimy4
      For a long time now, no one believes these statements, even from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, even from Medvedev, even from Shoigu, and so on. Neither in Russia nor abroad

      There they realized that these gentlemen were all empty talkers.

      With chatterboxes it’s to Kyiv and further to the west - Crimea
      return, offensive, etc. and Germany rushes all over the world - it never became independent from Russia
    28. +1
      3 November 2023 14: 55
      Quote: Radikal
      As the Russian diplomat put it, those people who actually make decisions must understand that closing the Baltic Sea to Russia means closing it to everyone.

      Those who try to realize these dreams into practical action must be aware of all the negative consequences for them that they can lead to

      - summed up Grushko.
      Nothing. Blah-la - “We are here, we are now, we are you in general, well, etc., etc. The world only understands force, but does it exist in the Baltic? We are ready to create problems for all countries of the Baltic region, without “calibers” , "onyxes", and "iskanders"? Are you ready to defend the Kaliningrad region?!
      If anyone talks about tactical nuclear weapons, he will be right, theoretically. And without it, what measures can the Russian Federation take in response? I don't have an answer. If anyone has it, please. sad

      Tell us about the strength in the Baltic - the Balts, maybe Germany with its army, or fight hand-to-hand with them, Russia has enough money for them
      1. +1
        3 November 2023 14: 59
        The real state of the Western army was shown by Israel, which has completely rebuilt itself into the Western image, so much boasting, but in reality, it is still far from a real army, much has been lost through a well-fed and carefree life
    29. -2
      3 November 2023 15: 00
      I remembered from KVN in the late 80s: Peter 1 cut through
      window to Europe.
      Normal people walk through the door, not through the window.
      But seriously, they will simply block the Danish Straits and we will drown in the Baltic.
    30. +2
      3 November 2023 15: 12
      Quote: Tektor
      The measures are simple - mining.
      And we will have to break through a land corridor to the Kaliningrad region.

      Exactly like that, and no other way! bully
    31. +1
      3 November 2023 15: 47
      Quote from AUL
      I only know for sure that we will not be able to resolve the problem using force.

      Justify...conduct a simulation of the situation when NATO closes the Gulf of Finland and what will be the response of the Baltic Fleet... what your exact knowledge doesn’t sound convincing.
      I don't believe in omnipotence or NATO.
    32. +1
      3 November 2023 15: 49
      Quote: Alex354
      But seriously, they will simply block the Danish Straits and we will drown in the Baltic

      smileAre we really going to drown?
    33. +1
      3 November 2023 17: 36
      The main thing is that there is enough water in the Baltic to flood the entire NATO fleet and other fleets of unfriendly countries.
    34. -1
      3 November 2023 19: 18
      Russian Foreign Ministry: Closing the Baltic Sea for Russia means closing it for everyone

      Personally, I understand in principle how NATO can try to close the Baltic to Russia. But it is not clear why THIS means closing the Baltic to everyone? If the Foreign Ministry is referring to the military clash between Russia and NATO in the Baltic, then this should be discussed without equivocation. And vague hints are poorly perceived by the enemy. For example, if it is meant to close only the waters of the Gulf of Finland, which NATO is planning to blockade, then this will not scare them. They're not going to swim there anyway. And if the war is in full swing, then say so in plain text so that the enemies hear it and think about it.
    35. +1
      3 November 2023 20: 14
      With our politicians since the 90s, everything is possible, these are just flowers.
    36. -2
      4 November 2023 00: 26
      Closing the Baltic Sea for Russia means closing it for everyone.
      It's said loudly, it's just said loudly
      1. +2
        4 November 2023 21: 10
        Closing the Baltic Sea to Russia
        - in fact, this is a military blockade, which is tantamount to war. It is unlikely that the Baltic countries will agree to this: the Finns and Estonians. And the closure was announced by Latvians, who cannot do this due to the remoteness of the territory from the navigable waters.
    37. +1
      4 November 2023 12: 23
      God! Isn’t it easier to close the Baltic states? No one will stand up for this farm. Look, let Belarus take care of it. Historically, this is their territory. And she will have access to the sea.

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