West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force

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Large-scale exercises in which the ships of the United Inter-Navy Naval Group will participate fleet RF begin in the eastern Mediterranean. According to information from the General Staff of the Russian Federation, ships and personnel of several Russian fleets will be involved in the exercises at once. Initially, it was talked about involving the ships of the Black Sea, Northern and Baltic Fleets, but then information came that the Pacific Fleet’s naval vessels could take part in the exercises. Maneuvers, according to official information, promise to be truly grandiose.



One of the main components of the exercises of the combined group will be the solution of tasks for disembarking amphibious units at several points, as well as tactics for quick loading of personnel and special equipment on board amphibious ships from those places where paratroopers and marines performed their tasks.

In addition to performing landing operations during the exercises, it is planned to implement a phased anti-submarine defense, in which naval aviation - Ka-27 helicopters. Obviously, in the course of the exercises, anti-submarine defense may turn out to be not only part of the general scenario of the exercises, but also a well-known need, because the interest in what Russia is going to do in the Mediterranean waters in the West is simply huge and, so to speak, clearly not healthy. However, more on that later. For now, let us return to what other operations the Russian sailors will perform in January during the maneuvers under consideration.

Such operations will include shipboard artillery firing at targets located both at sea and on land. Attacks on ground targets are planned to be carried out as part of the operation of covering the landing and reverse loading of the landing force. It was entrusted to execute artillery strikes to several ships, including the sentry to “Yaroslav the Wise” (Baltic Fleet) and “Smetlivy” (Black Sea Fleet), RK “Moscow” (flagship of the Black Sea Fleet), and also to the anti-submarine ship Severomorsk (Northern Fleet) . The landing operations themselves will be carried out from the ships Saratov and Novocherkassk (the Black Sea Fleet), Alexander Shabalin and Kaliningrad (both are Baltic Fleet).

During the naval exercises, it is planned to work out training actions related to towing emergency vessels, countering pirate groups in the Gulf of Aden (in particular, to counter attacks of small vessels). Despite the fact that according to media reports, the main Somali filibuster, which is called the Big Mouth in Mogadishu, announced his retirement from the piracy business and the transition to big politics, this is unlikely to result in complete pacification in the waters of the Gulf of Aden. ... Yes, and in the world's oceans today, not only pirates from Somalia are operating. That is why the development of action plans to repel pirate attacks did not ignore the Russian sailors.

However, the real, let's say, the highlight of all planned exercises in the Mediterranean, will be combat maneuvering off the Syrian coast. The inter-fleet grouping of Russian ships headed by the missile cruiser “Moscow” will work out operational-tactical actions in the immediate vicinity of Syria. Moreover, there is information that several Russian ships are scheduled to call at once to the logistics base of the Russian Navy in the port of Tartus (Syria).

It was the Russian-planned maneuvers of naval ships off the coast of Syria that entered Tartus became the object of incessant criticism from the West. A number of Western news agencies filed news about the upcoming exercises of Russian ships in the eastern Mediterranean as an attempt by Moscow to solve the Syrian issue by outside intervention by force.

The “progressive” press of the United States, Great Britain, and a number of Arab countries was full of headlines about Russian militarism and its attempts to put pressure on “the free people of Syria, who do not wish to see the dictator Assad at the head of their country.” At the same time, foreign publications were quick to say that Russia brings such an impressive grouping of its warships to Syria in order to evacuate Russian citizens from Syrian territory, after which it will certainly enter into a military operation against the so-called oppositionists.

Why are there Western publications ... We also have our own “soothsayers” in a number of media outlets that echo their foreign colleagues, saying that Moscow is worried that more and more new groups of servicemen of the Syrian regular army are switching to the Syrian “rebels” . Like, it was precisely this that gave Putin a reason (as without him) to immediately order a change in the situation in Syria purely in an anti-democratic direction.

For obvious reasons, when phrases like “bloody Assad’s regime” appear in media reports, “Putin is ready to support Assad” and “military invasion of Syria by Russia”, then especially impressionable readers (especially in the West) again begin to show anti-Russian sentiment. Now, if the exercises were carried out by the ships of the American fleets, it would be a different matter - just exercises and nothing more ... But as soon as it comes to Russia, I immediately think that “Putin’s clawed paw” and everything like that.

However, in fairness, it must be said that especially impressionable readers, who believe that true proponents of the democratic system are fighting with Assad in Syria, and not diversified militant groups, are even less in the West. People, despite ongoing information pressure, have recently managed to understand that not every military operation that is imposed by the NATO countries is one that can lead a certain country to democratic prosperity. The ongoing civil war in the country of the “victorious democracy” of Libya, as well as Egypt, where the new “democratic” president managed to rouse full power for themselves, are vivid examples of what military intervention and blind support for one of the parties from the outside leads to.

Obviously, many western politicians have now decided to use the factor of Russia's growing military power to amend their shaken image. Now, any military educational initiative of the Russian Federation outside its territorial and aquatic limits will be presented by certain foreign media as an attempt by Russia to solve its tasks by military means.

Of course, with a special desire, Moscow could use the formed naval grouping to "resolve the Syrian issue," but our country has enough bloody experience of participating in dubious foreign operations. Russia's task in conducting large-scale exercises in the eastern region of the Mediterranean Sea is not to invade the territory of this country and militarily support one of the parties to the armed conflict, but that the so-called world community suddenly had no illusions that There is only one country in the world that can promote its interests.

The negative experience of the Libyan “abstinence” on the part of Russia, obviously, will not be repeated, because today each of us can perfectly see what an attempt is being made to close our eyes to painful geopolitical issues. But Russia also does not intend to get involved in the Syrian prolonged conflict, risking the lives of its own citizens.

But the very fact of conducting naval exercises in the immediate vicinity of the territory of the country around which there are so many conversations today can obviously play to increase Russia's prestige in global geopolitical terms. When someone suddenly has a strong desire to solve the issue in Syria in the same way as it was resolved in Libya (the installation of the Patriot air defense system in Turkey is an example), then let these people remember the presence of another force capable of becoming an impressive counterweight. The very presence of Russian warships off the coast of Syria can cool even the hottest heads who recently believed in their infallibility and invulnerability.

Moreover, the Russian side is now well using the Western method of explaining the conduct of certain operations. In particular, the Ministry of Defense of Russia declares that the launch exercises of the ships of the Russian Navy are in no way connected with the events that take place in Syria. Like, pure coincidence ... This position is even more annoying to the West. So what? As they say, it was from whom to learn ...
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  1. +97
    14 January 2013 07: 18
    And even so.
    They can, but not others?
    After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.
    1. +52
      14 January 2013 07: 28
      You are absolutely right.
      State Depot mongrel barking hi ... as the people say, a dog barks and wears wind.
      Their lot is to yap and expose their backsides with wagging, and the fact that someone may have a different position and weighty arguments in the form of thermonuclear and other demotivators, gentlemen, the impudent Saxon shit democrats have forgotten. Nothing, now they are restoring this memory, it is a pity that it is not too fast, but they are restoring it, and this is the main thing.
      1. +26
        14 January 2013 08: 07
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        State Depot mumble high.

        Interestingly, the situation in foreign media is reminiscent of 08 08 08, when everyone was lazy to spit in Russia, but could not do anything. Even if there is a landing on the coast of Syria, the United States can not do anything. They understand the language of power and nothing more.
        I would like to add Kuznetsov there, having pre-loaded Ka 52 and Sushki, then everything was much more serious. As long as there is not enough support for aviation.
        1. Yarbay
          +3
          14 January 2013 08: 59
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Even if there is a landing on the coast of Syria, the United States can not do anything.

          Totally agree!
          It’s just that even from this article it’s not clear where the landing will be according to the plan of studies?
          1. 0
            14 January 2013 09: 03
            Quote: Yarbay
            It’s just that even from this article it’s not clear where the landing will be according to the plan of studies?

            Alibek, good morning !!!
            I think it will land, because this generally suits everyone (including Assad, especially). But the question is whether the land will land or not, the question is, what next? How long will the squadron stay there and will the Russian Armed Forces take part in the hostilities. Your opinion. Sincerely, Alexander.
            1. +6
              14 January 2013 09: 12
              Quote: atalef
              I think it will land, because it generally suits everyone

              Do you think the United States is happy with this? laughing
              1. +18
                14 January 2013 09: 22
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Do you think the United States is happy with this?

                And what does the United States have to do with this? It suits Russia and Syria. After all, the game goes according to the scheme Syria -Russia -Iran vs Saudi Arabia-Qatar-Turkey -Europe _USA.
                Russia does not need the permission of the States and play on the nerves, of course, try. therefore, it is not a question of what will land, a question of what is next. The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.
                What would not work - Matrosit and threw laughing
                1. +1
                  14 January 2013 09: 26
                  The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.

                  What scare them? They already run like rats in holes.
                2. Yarbay
                  +21
                  14 January 2013 09: 33
                  Quote: atalef
                  The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.

                  Here Sasha doesn’t agree a bit with you !!
                  The fact is that this will scare sponsors !!
                  The fact is that in the West, many consider Russia an unpredictable country and, in the case of even a military landing, Russia will show the world that Assad supports it not in words and is ready not in words but in this matter to render all possible assistance to her ally !!
                  1. Skiff
                    +8
                    14 January 2013 12: 42
                    Yes, I think that they are not only for the purpose of training there, they will probably throw useful weapons and equipment, they just cleaned ours there.
                    1. +3
                      14 January 2013 16: 21
                      Your words, yes, Putin’s ears! And at the same time, at least a little about financing the internal opposition of all the Cathars with Saudi Arabia!
                      1. +9
                        14 January 2013 17: 26
                        Listen, here's someone, and Putin knows what he's doing. Putin is also the Joker. "
                      2. 0
                        14 January 2013 20: 45
                        Scared reptiles. It turns out that not only they can solve something by force.
                      3. s1н7т
                        -2
                        14 January 2013 22: 13
                        Quote: ZABVO
                        someone who, and Putin knows what he's doing. Putin

                        Nobody argues with this. Still, it would have to do with the prosperity of the country and ordinary citizens. But while he is not noticed in this, alas.
                      4. +8
                        15 January 2013 00: 29
                        for some reason, some eyes are still closed. I, and many noticed what he did and has been doing since the zero years. it’s necessary to work and not to swamp around and listen to the morons.
                      5. +1
                        15 January 2013 08: 11
                        aleksandroff
                        for some reason, some eyes are still closed. I, and many noticed what he did and has been doing since the zero years. it’s necessary to work and not to swamp around and listen to the morons.


                        I absolutely agree with you, but work is still not an edge
                      6. +2
                        15 January 2013 06: 30
                        I totally agree.
                      7. 0
                        15 January 2013 19: 51
                        Prokop,
                        I’m not surprised, here with some airplane they almost didn’t go out for a shit, but here forgive the tonnage it will be more hi
                    2. +3
                      14 January 2013 16: 23
                      It is not possible to simply deliver the necessary and effective weapons to Syria in other ways, I think the exercises are just a cover for deliveries of surprises for the arrogant NATO and their henchmen.
                      1. +11
                        14 January 2013 17: 22
                        Quote: alexneg
                        Simply delivering the necessary and effective weapons to Syria in other ways is not possible

                        And why the French of Mali can be bombed and no one is asked.
                        And here so many different reasons are invented, the national interests of the Russian Federation are affected, and it is located on its military base and, if necessary, will conduct military operations, it will be more convincing for everyone.
                      2. +12
                        14 January 2013 21: 06
                        And if so? bully
                        Simply delivering the necessary and effective weapons to Syria in other ways is not possible
                      3. Cadet787
                        0
                        17 January 2013 19: 18
                        To bring down all forces on the Kator mongrel, so that the rest of the mongrels would not be habituated.
                    3. Quiet
                      +2
                      14 January 2013 18: 04
                      In-in !! And the adversaries now have the very first task - to capture our weapons and carefully study them (who is interested in allowing them ..) angry
                    4. Bashkaus
                      +10
                      14 January 2013 20: 29
                      yeah, and after 2 weeks it will be revealed that during the drill ... the marines forgot on the shore the S300 air defense systems acquired by hard work acquired by 2 divisions, the Iskander battery one piece ... Naturally, the commanders guilty of this will lose a quarterly bonus)))
                  2. Quiet
                    +4
                    14 January 2013 18: 00
                    It's a pity late with Yugoslavia (or were they in a hurry?)
                    1. +6
                      14 January 2013 19: 23
                      With Yugoslavia, they themselves were not yet ready. At that time, Russia would simply have been spread and internal traitors would have helped in this. Remember who was in power then.
                    2. +1
                      14 January 2013 20: 18
                      Quiet RU "It's a pity Yugoslavia was late (or were they in a hurry?)"
                      ---------------------------------------------------------
                      A very small clarification: they were not late, but simply HAVE DELIVERED, as well as Iraq and Libya !!!
                  3. +5
                    14 January 2013 20: 17
                    Yarbay hi

                    Quote: Yarbay
                    The fact is that in the West, many consider Russia an unpredictable country
                    wink
                  4. Markel
                    +1
                    15 January 2013 17: 24
                    I agree completely. Such effective steps must be taken as much as possible! So that everyone knows what Russia is! I even agree for the sake of this to an income tax of 18%))))
                  5. Neringa285
                    0
                    21 January 2013 00: 39
                    This will scare sponsors and those who want to lay a gas pipeline from Qatar through Syria .. well and throw Russia out of the European gas market ... we will have time to concentrate, as Chancellor Gorchakov said.)))
                3. +8
                  14 January 2013 10: 06
                  atalef The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.

                  I would like to believe that the landing ships are carrying not only the infantry, but also "humanitarian aid" to the fighting people of Syria. Those who fight you yourself know what is necessary first of all.
                  1. biglow
                    +8
                    14 January 2013 20: 24
                    klev72,
                    Many ships left Sevastopol with a clear overload, and not all went to Novorossiysk for an amphibious landing. Therefore, it’s clear that they’ll be transported to Syria
                4. Bashkaus
                  +4
                  14 January 2013 20: 26
                  Why scare them, these militants then? The whole world has already culturally announced "The square is closed, military exercises are underway with the use of military equipment, all unnecessary evacuate from the area!" 90% of the fighters for demography are illegally in Syria, let them go for minced meat to the feni and pretend that nothing happened ... And if especially clever European rats start yapping like mountains of corpses, etc. then immediately in the information counterattack "we don't know anything, and just how they got there, and not even citizens of Syria, because everyone was warned two weeks in advance, the locals are all registered" And just in general, even if someone was irritated, it was just an accident , well, like at a construction site next to the inscription "do not stand under the arrow" Apologies to my family and friends, I am even ready to bring a couple of carnations to the embassy of the murdered.
                  1. urchub
                    +1
                    14 January 2013 22: 24
                    or maybe it's easier for the main players to go to Mali and Russia said your Syria. How do you like it? Turks in love with both the states and the euro need to be blocked, though not now, but all the same, and Qatar is the fiefdom of the states We won’t go there and the states will reformat it anyway (a matter of time)
            2. Yarbay
              +7
              14 January 2013 09: 28
              Quote: atalef
              I think it will land, because this generally suits everyone (including Assad, especially). But the question is whether the land will land or not, the question is, what next? How long will the squadron stay there and will the Russian Armed Forces take part in the hostilities. Your opinion. Sincerely, Alexander.

              Hi Sasha!
              My opinion is that the ships will be there for a long time, but I think it’s impossible at this stage to accept Russia's participation in this war !!
              I believe that if you land according to the plan of scholarship in Syria, it would be a great moral support to Assad and his supporters and would sober up the heads of scumbags !!
              1. Denzel13
                +12
                14 January 2013 13: 15
                Alibek is right. Direct participation is unlikely, but the presence of a significant grouping there is a deterrent. It is unlikely that the "democratic forces" will start any action in Syria by their own forces (and not by the "rebels") as long as our fleet is there. The consequences can be unpredictable, which they are not happy with. Maybe these "exercises" are the result of the actions of our intelligence, which obtained information about the beginning of any operation on the part of "those who carry democracy." Preventive, so to speak, actions.
                1. +9
                  14 January 2013 15: 45
                  Good time everyone! And what intelligence data. Turkey places Patriots on the border. Not from flying art. shells and mines are going to defend themselves. Another no-fly zone is being organized for a military invasion. And the Russian fleet with its base is like a bone in the throat.
                2. +6
                  14 January 2013 16: 01
                  Quote: Denzel13
                  Maybe these "exercises" are the result of actions of our intelligence

                  Everything is clear there even without undercover intelligence, on January XNUMX, Anders Fogh Rasmussen called on NATO "not to hide its head in the sand."
                  http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/streit-zwischen-buendnis-und-mitgliedstaaten-

                  nato-chef-erwaegt-militaerische-intervention-in
                  In addition, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Yasem al-Thani said: "Diplomacy can continue for another two, three or four weeks - but not more. The situation in Syria is too tragic, and we cannot justify all this talk of supporting political decisions." ...
                  http://delo.ua/world/voennoe-vtorzhenie-v-siriju-mozhet-nachatsja-cherez-dve-ned

                  eli-katar-194522 /
                  1. +5
                    14 January 2013 19: 46
                    Arkan,
                    In addition, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Yasem al-Thani said: "Diplomacy can continue for another two, three or four weeks - but not more. The situation in Syria is too tragic, and we cannot justify all this talk of supporting political decisions." ...

                    Then we are there so that different sheikhs do not sausage there.
                    1. 0
                      14 January 2013 22: 59
                      Sandov
                      The situation is really extremely curious. What are your forecasts?
                      1. urchub
                        +1
                        14 January 2013 23: 39
                        Amer’s goal is China without Russia in any way and Russia. China is very strong. the chaos of Syria and Iran is a threat to Russia. Amers need to choose if to crush Syria and Iran to block China, Russia will draw closer to the Celestial Empire or the Russian allies should Syria be left in limbo for bargaining Turkey, the states will not let Russia become strong Russia will be blocked through Ukrov. Backstage and the states and Ross need to be kept in China. And this is all a game. By the way, if the GDP does not pull the ukrov of the TS within 2-3 years, it will probably go before the end of the term.
                      2. Oleg Rosskiyy
                        +1
                        15 January 2013 00: 09
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        What are your forecasts?

                        God bless you.
                      3. Che
                        Che
                        +1
                        15 January 2013 08: 01
                        Aaron Zawi,
                        Personally, it seems to me that Syria will stand in the struggle, but Assad will retire after fulfilling the main task of his life - to preserve sovereignty.
                      4. +1
                        15 January 2013 16: 05
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        The "progressive" press of the USA, Great Britain, and a number of Arab countries was full of headlines about the militarism of Russia and its attempts to put pressure on "the free people of Syria, who do not want to see the dictator Assad at the head of their country."


                        The people of Syria are fighting the Amer rats, the American militarists are planting their fucking democracy in unacceptable ways.
                        We are for this in Syria so that all this rabble like sheikhs does not make the people of Syria a blood bath. At the same time, Israel should not disappear from the world map.
              2. Quiet
                +5
                14 January 2013 18: 10
                They will arrange the shift method of duty as on oil rigs. A new shift has come - the old has returned to R.F. For our sailors a free cruise (at least they will see the world) ....
                1. 0
                  14 January 2013 18: 48
                  Quote: Quiet
                  They will arrange the shift method of duty as on oil rigs.

                  As if already.
                  Quote: Quiet
                  For our sailors a free cruise (at least they will see the world) ....

                  Read the performance characteristics of our boats and impressions of such cruises have already been laid out. Our ships are not cruisers, not cruisers. Maximum efficiency on such a tonnage.
                  1. Quiet
                    0
                    14 January 2013 19: 41
                    One presence is enough ... Remember 1945.
                    1. s1н7т
                      -13
                      14 January 2013 23: 38
                      Quote: Quiet
                      Remember 1945.

                      They may remember, but putinoids - no. Therefore, they do not respect us and are not afraid.
                      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                        +8
                        15 January 2013 00: 15
                        Quote: c1n7
                        Because they do not respect us

                        Whom are you - Kasyanin, Nemtsov, Tyutyukin, so jackals, they are jackals everywhere, that they respect them, they have already begun to sell children over the hill-creatures.
              3. +4
                15 January 2013 11: 35
                Welcome all. Alibek You are right, Russia will not take part in the conflict, but I think they will definitely make the landing. Eh, during the exercise, they would have fired a volley of anti-ship weapons at the training point, but live, it would have cooled the heads of the "hot guys" from the west.
                1. +3
                  15 January 2013 16: 54
                  In, in. And to establish a training point in the center of the group of the Syrian opposition.
                  1. orfo
                    +1
                    15 January 2013 17: 56
                    better at headquarters in turkey
            3. Sergh
              +13
              14 January 2013 09: 39
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              the situation in foreign media is reminiscent of 08 08 08, when everyone and sundry spit in Russia ... uploading Ka 52 to it

              Hi guys!
              Che, stsuki gayropeyskie ... did not wait ??? Now BOOM speak differently ... why, to whom and lope! And then tired of paper morale.
              Helicopters, Alexander, a little on three ships on the "Moscow" Ka-27, anti-submarine "Severomorsk" 2 pcs. Ka-27PL, Ka-27RTs, patrol boat "Yaroslav the Wise" Ka-27, in total I counted four of them, if they haven't hidden them somewhere in the stash, there will be enough need for a jump of cargo and ammunition, etc. But they will still do.

              "Yaroslav the Wise" military helicopter.

              1. +16
                14 January 2013 09: 52
                Hello Sergey!
                So for sure, a handsome man stands at the pier, waiting for orders soldier


                1. +1
                  15 January 2013 14: 54
                  The last photo inspires respect for the ship.
              2. 0
                14 January 2013 17: 29
                what is that "Tikongnroga" in the background?
            4. SCS
              SCS
              +4
              14 January 2013 12: 13
              I think it will land ...
              Landing or not is not so important, because just by its presence, the Russian Navy provides moral (and most likely not only moral) support to Assad, balancing forces, preventing NATO members from openly interfering in the internal affairs of the state, as well as (which is the most pleasant))) snapping diarrhea to our Western "friends"!
            5. +7
              14 January 2013 13: 00

              atalefYou have already signed up volunteer, with children and immediate family members, to participate in military operations in Syria? These are not tin soldiers. It’s somehow easy for you: MUST, OBLIGED, in fact, provide military support to Syria. There are no "friends" in the world, there are "fellow travelers": political, strategic, military, geopolitical. There was a time when Bulgaria was "considered" (naively) 16 the republic of the USSR, BROTHERS, SLAVS .... Now they are in NATO and "slops" pour on Russia worse than others. It is necessary to stop the massacre in Syria! But not with the lives of Russian guys. If you shed your blood, it is only to protect the lives of your fellow citizens. I don't see a FLOATING HOSPITAL in the squadron, by the way. IMHO.
              1. Region65
                +4
                14 January 2013 15: 30
                however gangster attacks of the West in the North. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and so on were stopped precisely by the lives of Soviet guys. Or are soldiers needed only at the parade to demonstrate uniform from Yudashkin?
                1. +3
                  14 January 2013 18: 27
                  You apparently participated there? Did you serve in the army though?
                  By what place are the countries listed by you turned now to Russia, as a sign of "gratitude"? (Afghanistan forgotten)
                  With which fright country should send its soldiers to war in Syria? Did she have a UN Security Council mandate for this?
                  Syria begs: Save!
                  For the sake of Serbia, we raised a finger slightly.
                  The personnel of the technical base of the Navy were touched - to burn out a security zone of 1 km around the base with napalm (I know, I know ..).
                  It will be necessary to evacuate the citizens of the Russian Federation, but the Airborne Forces, the Marine Corps, the Ministry of Emergencies - forward! Some cover up, others take out.
                  1. 0
                    16 January 2013 13: 02
                    And arrange a cover to the very Turkish border am
              2. 0
                14 January 2013 15: 50
                Quote: zanoza
                atalef, Have you already signed up as a volunteer, with children and immediate relatives, to participate in military operations in Syria?

                And what do you think?
                Quote: zanoza
                Somehow it’s easy for you: MUST, OBLIGED to actually provide force support to Syria.

                Etoya wrote?
                Quote: zanoza
                . Stop the massacre in Syria! But not the lives of Russian guys

                Agree
              3. +1
                14 January 2013 15: 59
                I completely agree with you. War on foreign territory, and even more so, on our own, we do not need. The United States, by the way, also does not fight much. She is more concerned with security, and then for the loot. Supporting fellow travelers is also tricky. To lie, like Zapat is insolent, but yourself ... They say that the ship broke down, you need to go to the port to be repaired, and spare parts to and fro. And at night they should fill the chambers for friendly people. How the USA in Afghanistan interfered with us. If only then they wouldn’t start bombing our base with our own weapons, when the trouble subsided. History, alas, has the property of repeating itself. Therefore, it is important not to overdo it here.
              4. +3
                14 January 2013 16: 31
                Quote: zanoza
                There was a time when Bulgaria was "considered" (naively) 16 the republic of the USSR, BROTHERS, SLAVS .... Now they are in NATO and pour "slops" on Russia worse than others

                With the same success, you can say about Ukraine, but do not confuse the people with the so-called * elite *, which seized upon the government of these countries.
                1. +2
                  14 January 2013 19: 26
                  This people сpuddles (if you want, forced to serve) in the army of the country, which is part of the NATO bloc and is under the operational control of the command of this bloc. Yes, in addition, somehow squeezed, or NATO bases or elements of the bloc’s infrastructure on their territory. For this, our Russian thank you to them! am
                  1. sorokin
                    +2
                    15 January 2013 19: 20
                    Quote: zanoza

                    These people serve (if you want, are forced to serve) in the army of the country, which is part of the NATO bloc and is under the operational control of the command of this block. Yes, in addition, somehow squeezed, or NATO bases or elements of the bloc’s infrastructure on their territory. For this, our Russian thank you to them!
                    This poster is still hanging next to the gates of the Naval base in Atia. Bulgarians are not allowed to shoot. In the summer there was - photographed.
                    1. mnn_12
                      +3
                      15 January 2013 20: 10
                      Dear Sorokin,
                      A very illustrative example is shown. Unfortunately, the forces of those striving to break deep historical ties are very intensively acting not only in Bulgaria but also in Russia. Zanoza is a typical example of the success of these forces. The complete absence of active action by the Russian state makes an impression on the restoration of the influence of the position in Bulgaria. This photo is a wonderful symbol of today's situation - something is preserved, but no one is making efforts to restore or further develop ...
                      1. sorokin
                        +1
                        16 January 2013 10: 18
                        Quote: mnn_12
                        This photo is a wonderful symbol of today's situation - something is preserved, but no one is making efforts to restore or further develop ...
                        Here is a "NATO" fighter. For the Russians: - he says, - I'll tear your ass. On the NATO flag. So that's it.
                        People will still figure out who is better to live with and be friends with.
              5. +4
                14 January 2013 17: 25
                As a rule, a war on foreign territory helps to save lives on one's own. This is what our American "friends" are doing successfully. But Russia does not enter any war, and moral and material support does not count. Yes, unfortunately, we have no friends. There are only consumers of our help. But while this help is going on, they are mainly on our side. And there how the map will fall.
                1. Quiet
                  +1
                  14 January 2013 18: 39
                  Russia has two friends - the Army and the Navy !!!!!
                  1. s1н7т
                    -4
                    14 January 2013 23: 44
                    Quote: Quiet
                    Russia has two friends - the Army and the Navy !!!!!

                    The state (not the country) wanted to spit on friends, however!
                    That's why we live.
                  2. mnn_12
                    +2
                    15 January 2013 20: 16
                    Without allies, no one in the modern world can live. The USSR and the army and navy were larger than Russia now, but this did not help. When the USSR betrayed friends and it was done away with.
                    Often repeat this phrase here. Probably suitable for training editors and sergeants, but for officers and politicians such a philosophy is disastrous.
              6. mnn_12
                +5
                15 January 2013 01: 26
                Now they are in NATO and pour "slop" on Russia worse than others.

                Dear zanoza,
                Read and learn more before writing! Genesis 16 of the republic was proposed by Zhivkov, and this proposal was largely consistent with the centuries-old cultural and political ties of the two peoples. He was not more loyal and betrayed by an ally from the Warsaw Pact those years than Bulgaria.
                Therefore, the betrayal of Mikhail Sergeyevich was the most tangible in Bulgaria. And for the betrayal of the most faithful friend, what do you expect? Flowers? You can do a bit of dolar but of course there will be no respect ...
                And now in Bulgaria, the Russian language is the second most studied language after English among schoolchildren.
                I understand that probably the brain has been washed, but illiteracy combined with aggression will not turn your statements into truth. Learn and think more before writing ...
                1. +5
                  15 January 2013 01: 50
                  Quote: mnn_12
                  Therefore, the betrayal of Mikhail Sergeyevich was the most tangible in Bulgaria. And for the betrayal of the most faithful friend, what do you expect? Flowers? You can do a bit of dolar but of course there will be no respect ...

                  You are absolutely right! Not only the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, but most of the Union Republics were left without any choice after Gorbachev's "change of course" and Yeltsin's "independence of Russia." I think now the moment of Truth has come: if Russia surrenders Syria, this will mean that in fact, nothing has changed in it since the 90s (it's just that now there is a sober president) ... Well, if it does, our world will begin to change.
                2. +3
                  15 January 2013 04: 23
                  Quote: mnn_12
                  Genesis 16 of the republic was proposed by Zhivkov, and this proposal was largely consistent with the centuries-old cultural and political ties of the two peoples

                  But the USSR did not accept this proposal for only one reason; it did not want to lose the voice of an independent state in the UN supporting the policies of the USSR.
              7. +2
                15 January 2013 02: 00
                zanoza: "I do not see a FLOATING HOSPITAL in the squadron"

                It will be a clear sign for everyone that intentions can go far beyond the teachings.
              8. sorokin
                +5
                15 January 2013 19: 15
                Quote: zanoza
                There was a time when Bulgaria was "considered" (naively) 16 the republic of the USSR, BROTHERS, SLAVS .... Now they are in NATO and "slops" pour on Russia worse than others.
                In the late 80s and early 90s, we left Bulgaria. She did not interest us. Yeltsin and his team looked to the United States, giving Americans and their allies freedom to operate in Eastern Europe. But despite this, in the mid-90s, thanks to the voices of Russophiles, the Socialist Party came to power, whose leaders turned to Moscow for support. Yeltsin again refused. Then the Bulgarians finally fell under the West. And the people are still there in Russian freely and they are incredibly happy with Russian guests. Especially in the provinces.
            6. urchub
              +1
              14 January 2013 21: 56
              no fighting needed. You forgot about the confusion. it’s enough that something will fly out from under the water and light up the sky over the Turks and Qatar for a long time they will think that it was that it fell somewhere in the Pacific Ocean (something like this)
              1. 0
                16 January 2013 13: 08
                In addition, there may be some kind of "failure" in the guidance system or target designation am
          2. vyatom
            +9
            14 January 2013 11: 43
            Declare the rebels as terrorists and destroy them in the bud with the help of airstrikes. And let the NATO petushars come forth in bile.
            1. +4
              14 January 2013 16: 38
              Absolutely right! Especially when looking at the actions of France, which calls the same forces, in Syria rebels, and in Mali terrorists.
              1. +13
                14 January 2013 18: 54
                Absolutely right! In Bulgaria, not everyone is delighted with our membership in the EU and NATO. No one asked us if we want a stat colony USA. NATO is essentially a Pazar of weapons! Our army is almost destroyed ...
          3. +5
            14 January 2013 17: 15
            And who knows about it. There is always intrigue during large exercises. Yes, and playing on the nerves of American friends clearly does not hurt. We are waiting, sir.
          4. 0
            14 January 2013 22: 11
            dear friend, constantly asking questions ... why would it ???? bully
        2. +20
          14 January 2013 09: 04
          You don’t have to be seven spans in your forehead to understand, Russia shows the West a muzzle ... And it does the right thing ... We too believed and too burned on our faith ... Now we have stopped believing ... The words of Western politicians are empty words, but they only do things when they feel a boot on their throats
          1. +14
            14 January 2013 09: 11
            Quote: domokl
            The words of Western politicians are empty words,

            Well, why empty, in these words a lot of lies on all counts. And behind these words rivers of blood flow hi
            1. +4
              14 January 2013 10: 13
              To the phrase
              Quote: domokl
              Western politicians
              words
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              a lot of lies on all counts
              somehow applied by themselves in all sane people. And you always look at the familiar as an empty place.
          2. +2
            14 January 2013 10: 02
            Quote: domokl
            The words of Western politicians are empty words


            Not a sound, but such a big pile of fertilizers.

            Our people have known for a long time
            The best fertilizer is ..... manure.
          3. Quiet
            0
            14 January 2013 18: 43
            Or a shovel from a sapper shovel in the anus, like a saak .....
          4. s1н7т
            -3
            14 January 2013 23: 47
            Quote: domokl
            Russia shows the West a muzzle

            But what, the Stabilization Fund is no longer in the West? If still there, then this is not a blow, but only a hint.
            1. +3
              15 January 2013 03: 47
              The stabilization fund is equal to the external debts of our industry. If they freeze from them, they grab from us, like no one owes anything to them. They will have paper left, we have industrial enterprises.
        3. YARY
          +10
          14 January 2013 09: 31
          1-] Terrorist makes important confessions to CNN

          The Government of the Justice and Development Party is no longer able to convince anyone that refugees live in the camps located in Turkey. This is a lie, and these camps are training centers for terrorists who arrived from all over the world. In them, militants can also relax before heading to Syria to conduct terrorist activities.
          One of the terrorists, Sami Yousef, told in front of the video camera of the American television channel "CNN" that he repeatedly took part in terrorist operations against the Syrian army in Aleppo and Idleb. At the same time, at any time, when he wants, he hides in Turkey as a "refugee".
          Previously, he transmitted distorted information about what is happening in Syria, for which he was arrested. Then came under amnesty. But, instead of taking advantage of the liberation in order to return to normal life and take a decent, patriotic position, he switched to terrorist acts.
          In the video report of the CNN channel, Sami is shown in one of the Turkish camps. He brags to the camera that he is heading to Syria with the Akhrar Al-Sham brigades and then returning back to Turkey.
          1. YARY
            +11
            14 January 2013 09: 35
            2-
            The terrorist made another serious confession: he said that he and his accomplices used school buildings as their bases. This reaffirms that terrorism and extremism are enemies of science and knowledge, and what they plan in Syria has nothing to do with the values ​​of true democracy, freedom and human rights. Their goal is to destroy a normal life, push Syria back, do everything so that its people get worse and worse.
            1. Vanek
              +2
              14 January 2013 09: 47
              Quote: Ardent
              One of the terrorists, Sami Yousef, told in front of the video camera of the American television channel "CNN" that he repeatedly took part in terrorist operations against the Syrian army in Aleppo and Idleb.


              How few necessary words, and how many unnecessary thoughts. ................... I have.

              Hello to everyone hi
          2. +9
            14 January 2013 09: 41
            Yes, how scum act in Chechnya, they shoot then it gets hot as an ass - he throws down his weapon and yells "I'm a civilian, don't shoot!" am
            1. Quiet
              +2
              14 January 2013 18: 52
              "I am a civilian do not shoot!"

              H-e-e-e !!! They yell, "I'm a foreign citizen, I'm heading to Sumatra to catch butterflies" ... fellow
          3. Quiet
            +1
            14 January 2013 18: 47
            In them, militants can also relax before heading to Syria. ........ to the eternal rest !!!!!
        4. +3
          14 January 2013 17: 29
          the situation in foreign media is reminiscent of 08 08 08, when all and sundry spit in Russia, but could not do anything.

          When dogs poison a bear, they try to bullshit more and climb less on the rampage - they know what awaits them. So let Turkey be tense, come up with something, how to otmazatsya before the owners and not sit down on the rule. Except for her, no one is going to fuss anyway; here it’s not Libya.
          1. Quiet
            +2
            14 January 2013 18: 55
            So let Turkey be tense, come up with something

            ... For starters, let him take a consultant from the Georgian Foreign Ministry .....
        5. +2
          14 January 2013 19: 40
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          However, in fairness, it must be said that especially impressionable readers who believe that true advocates of the democratic system and not motley militant groups are fighting with Assad in Syria, even in the West are becoming less and less.


          I would say more precisely, not militants, but pro-American bandits. Everything was planned at the headquarters of NATO.
          1. orfo
            +2
            15 January 2013 02: 59
            anyone would tell them that they are fighting for "Islam". It is hard to believe that the highest army ranks who have deserted want something other than personal rule.
            1. +2
              15 January 2013 16: 10
              orfo,
              Those who overstepped, frankly managed. Weak people, used to eating sweet and sleeping near the authorities. And at the time of testing they gave slack. Doomed themselves to life in villainy.
      2. 0
        14 January 2013 09: 59
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        as they say, the dog barks and wears wind.

        Better to say "The dog barks the caravan is coming"
      3. donchepano
        +1
        14 January 2013 10: 01
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        State Depot mongrel barking hi ... as the people say, a dog barks and wears wind.


        Urgently launch an information war against the Westerners
        1. +4
          14 January 2013 10: 31
          Quote: donchepano
          Urgently launch an information war against the Westerners

          Moreover, so many opportunities have now been provided to omit the paddling pads and small shavings ("providing assistance" to Mali without any sanctions, not only the UN, but even its legislators)
      4. +7
        14 January 2013 11: 13
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Their inheritance is yapping and exposing their asses with wagging

        I hope our leadership takes advantage of this for its intended purpose, namely, it will give a good kick with the breadth of the Russian soul. laughing
        1. -2
          14 January 2013 15: 20
          Quote: Ghen75
          I hope our leadership will take advantage of this for its intended purpose, namely, it will give a good kick with the breadth of the Russian soul

          Yeah........... request
      5. Atlon
        +3
        14 January 2013 13: 10
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Nothing, now they are restoring this memory, it is a pity that it is not too fast, but they are restoring it, and this is the main thing.

        You can’t quickly ... the therapy, although intensive, is strictly dosed, otherwise the patient is dead ... laughing
        So that's right, a little bit, on a pill a day, get used to! wink
      6. +8
        14 January 2013 20: 13
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Nothing, now they are restoring this memory, it is a pity that it is not too fast, but they are restoring it, and this is the main thing.
    2. yustas
      +4
      14 January 2013 07: 29
      Yes sir!
      And not only to calm down, but also to give in hands, so that they do not climb where it is not necessary ... otherwise it will be electrocuted or "the snow will fall, and you will be completely dead."
      1. +5
        14 January 2013 07: 38
        Quote: yustas
        "the snow will fall,

        "the snow will hit the head ..." Seems so right. In Syria, it is very easy to get under a snow block belay . Someone doesn't believe ?!
        1. yustas
          +1
          14 January 2013 07: 54
          Dmitry, don’t call it anyway it will hurt =)
        2. homeland
          0
          14 January 2013 08: 14
          Guys, but in the event of a mess, our people will be cut off in Syria, Turkey and Iraq will not give air links ...
          1. +14
            14 January 2013 08: 29
            In the event of a mess, they will no longer be asked. "Patriots" in Turkey can also be silenced. And Iraq will pretend not to notice.
            1. +1
              14 January 2013 13: 32
              ... "Patriots" in Turkey can also be silenced ..... And will NATO calmly swallow? You are healthy?
              1. +3
                14 January 2013 14: 07
                I agree this is already a new world smacks of.
              2. Quiet
                0
                14 January 2013 18: 58
                You are healthy?


                Many thanks !!!! And God forbid you do not get sick (from a pure heart) hi
          2. +5
            14 January 2013 09: 32
            Iraq will give airspace. We transport weapons along the Caspian-Iran-Iraq route, no one searches and no one asks questions.
            1. homeland
              +3
              14 January 2013 14: 34
              And who will inspect? Iran? If not in the same boat now, then in the same direction we are definitely sailing with them.
          3. Vanek
            0
            14 January 2013 09: 48
            Quote: vatan
            Turkey and Iraq


            So it is thought that they will not be asked.
            1. Sergh
              +3
              14 January 2013 10: 39
              Quote: vatan
              will be cut off in Syria, Turkey and Iraq will not give air links ...

              Last night, on a dispatching online map of civilian flights, I specifically watched civilians
              flights to Damascus, so three planes landed in an hour, one went from Kiev through Turkey, one from Tehran and one
              local seems with Aleppo. Then one took off and went to Egypt in Cairo, the other back to Iran. Yes to Qatar, Jordan
              fly to saudas too ... right now one goes on a flight:
              Damascus - Doha
              Flight RB 521
              Distance: 1714 km.
              Arrival after 1 hours 46 minutes


              1. homeland
                0
                14 January 2013 14: 14
                Sergey, it’s one thing in peacetime passengers fly, another when enemies are teeming in the sky
              2. Quiet
                +1
                14 January 2013 19: 20
                That's right !!!! "Refueling in Damascus" good
            2. homeland
              +2
              14 January 2013 14: 45
              They won't ask, but I hope the presence of our guys will sober up the heads of the sponsors of this whole story with "instructing Syria on the bright path."
          4. 0
            14 January 2013 13: 43
            Do not worry, there are half of the commenting GAMERS. "War" (shooter, strategy) on the computer is a common thing for them. It's simple, with repetitions and restarting in case of failure. Bang bang and the enemy is defeated.
            1. +1
              14 January 2013 16: 27
              A fine line is between muscle flexing and another world war. The First World War also began with bullshit. The situation is tense now. There is a struggle for resources. The current situation is still different in that in the event of an imminent defeat, any nuclear power may say, "So don't get it to anyone," and press the button. The US will do just that. They have a cult of revenge above all else. I think everyone understands this, so having a fleet in Syria is important. Not everyone wants to be the first to cross the line.
              1. +5
                14 January 2013 16: 58
                Quote: Aliv
                The United States will do just that. They have a cult of revenge above all.

                This time the situation for the United States is somewhat more complicated, the fact is that the foundation of the existence of Western civilization is Middle Eastern oil, and any interruptions in its supplies can cause collapse, and any nuclear mess in this region will lead to a catastrophic drop in production ... On the other hand - The West (especially the United States) is extremely important to maintain an agreement with Qatar and Saudi Arabia, according to which these countries sell their resources exclusively for dollars in exchange for protection against all threats (including from Israel), and this is becoming more difficult every year (The developing economies of China and India each year require an increasing amount of resources, the influence of these countries in the world is also growing, and confidence in the dollar on the contrary is falling. The USA is now between two fires, but a nuclear war in this region is their nightmare .
              2. Quiet
                +1
                14 January 2013 19: 27
                So don't get anyone, "and press the button. USA for sure

                Bored ..... There are more and more people who want to erase the USA from the map every day in the queue with an eraser !!!!!
            2. Quiet
              +5
              14 January 2013 19: 23
              here half of the commenting on GAMERS. "War" (shooter, strategy)

              minus 1 is me .... Who else is a gamer, put a plus ....
              1. +1
                14 January 2013 19: 33
                Quote: Quiet
                minus 1 is me .... Who else is a gamer, put a plus ....

                I somehow tried to gamble in Contra, it turned out that I had "crooked hands" for this ((((. laughing
                1. Quiet
                  +1
                  14 January 2013 19: 47
                  When you stand up to your chest in water, your hands under the water always appear crooked !!!! You have optical illusion !!!! bully
              2. +3
                14 January 2013 21: 32
                I sometimes play Klondike and Minesweeper from the Start Menu. Can I be considered a "gamer" ??? request
          5. +1
            14 January 2013 14: 06
            What guy zaminusili current he asked, worried man. Our demand is not hit.
          6. homeland
            0
            14 January 2013 14: 09
            It seems that presidential advisers and close generals are sitting on the site personally.
            It is still unknown how everything can turn around, but now Turkey will be pacified if anything and Iraq will give good, as if our people are sitting with them. If we take a bite with Turkey, the shit-gunners will immediately forget about Syria and switch to us.

            Someone outplayed toys?
    3. +10
      14 January 2013 07: 39
      Quote: Dmitriy69

      And even so.
      They can, but not others?
      After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.


      Absolutely correct! Impunity corrupts, and inevitable retaliation is sobering!
      Alexey - from the bottom of my heart - thanks for the article! What you need!
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 10: 20
        For sobering, it will be possible to use long-range agricultural aircraft, as at one time in the DRA, peasants were assisted in harvesting the next crop. am
    4. +6
      14 January 2013 07: 43
      The West will "crack" on its head.
      They were going to conduct a special operation, and we have exercises - pure coincidence belay feel
      PS I remembered the song, the veterans remember "" And the city, I thought, and the city thought - the trainings are going on! "
      1. 0
        14 January 2013 18: 53
        This song is completely different. Do not drag her here ..
    5. +3
      14 January 2013 08: 01
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.

      They are afraid that Moscow will calm not only and not so much terrorist bandits,
      but also those who arranged all this, orgy, in Syria.
      In short, the West is afraid for itself, for its own skin.
      1. 0
        14 January 2013 08: 52
        Hi everyone. If "Moscow" fires a full salvo, then half of the territory of the state (tobish of Turkey, Syria) will simply not happen. So our ships are there purely for intimidation.
        1. +7
          14 January 2013 09: 40
          Quote: Mechanic
          If "Moscow" fires a full volley, then half of the territory of the state (tobish of Turkey, Syria) will simply not be.

          You at least do not write garbage for the sake of a red word. A full salvo of "Moscow" 16 missiles 4K80 of the "Basalt" complex, the mass of the warhead is 500 kg, is intended for firing at surface targets, reloading is laborious and is performed only at the base.
          1. +3
            14 January 2013 09: 51
            Quote: baltika-18
            s garbage, then at least do not write for the sake of a red word. A full salvo of "Moscow" 16 missiles 4K80 complex "Basalt", the mass of the warhead is 500 kg, is intended for firing at surface targets, reloading is laborious and is performed only at the base.
            I don’t know. So the P500 is a Surface-to-Surface missile (he served on Ustinov himself), so launching even against ground targets is allowed. There is only one thing, but they will not reach the ground in range. But you can even dream if they can reach it (the country is small).
          2. +4
            14 January 2013 10: 35
            Quote: baltika-18
            complex "Basalt"

            Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to have been modernized before Vulcan.
            1. +4
              14 January 2013 12: 58
              Quote: starpom
              Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to have been modernized before Vulcan.

              You are not mistaken. But they differ only in the range of flight "Basalt" -550 km, "Volcano" -700 km. The rest of the performance characteristics are the same.
        2. +2
          14 January 2013 10: 52
          all is well, but missiles in Moscow are only anti-ship.
          And this entire fleet can only work effectively against ships.
          Here in the subject would be new corvettes with frigates and the Mistral. Well, an aircraft carrier for cover.
          1. +4
            14 January 2013 15: 53
            in the conflict in Georgia, ships did not work badly by land, artillery and artillery in Africa wink
            1. +1
              14 January 2013 16: 46
              lol and range?
              Without Corvette URV frigates, one cannot meddle in such adventures.
              + Need UDC for over-landing
              + Aircraft carrier
      2. +1
        14 January 2013 16: 36
        Peace in the Middle East is worse than the victory of the Assad regime. Who, then, should we sell weapons to? Peaceful people will start thinking, "What happened to us. Who is to blame for all this? And muddy the hose with oil."
    6. YARY
      +9
      14 January 2013 09: 22


      And increase the base, upgrade at least soldier
      1. +11
        14 January 2013 09: 38
        Good day to all.

        quote.

        Strikes on ground targets it is planned to carry out as part of the operation to cover the landing and reloading the landing. Several ships were assigned to carry out the artillery strike, including the guard watchmen Yaroslav the Wise (Baltic Fleet) and Smetlivy (Black Sea Fleet), the Moscow RK (flagship of the Black Sea Fleet), as well as the anti-submarine ship Severomorsk (Northern Fleet) . The landing operations themselves will be carried out from the ships Saratov and Novocherkassk (Black Sea Fleet), Alexander Shabalin and Kaliningrad (both Baltic Fleet).

        That kind of wording confused me somewhat. in red.

        But the Yankees and the rest of the geyropeytsy have to get out of that area for a while, otherwise after all the boats who didn’t hide, it’s not my fault.
        1. +9
          14 January 2013 10: 03
          For obser further our potential friends, old but loud words:
          "The Air Force aviation will be ready to fulfill any task that the Supreme Commander-in-Chief sets us, " - said Gradusov, answering the question of whether the Russian Air Force is ready to cover Russian warships from the air if they are sent to Syria to protect and evacuate Russians there.

          Everything, the red cross can send a batch of diapers for the brave Salafists, fighters for freedom and democracy laughing
          1. Bashkaus
            +3
            14 January 2013 20: 54
            That’s why I love my country, because it can take place in Syria, while aviation can be covered somewhere in the San Francisco or Boston area, and it’s very effective)))
        2. +2
          14 January 2013 18: 40
          Why be embarrassed? Will the Syrian side appoint the coordinates of the shelled sites? I believe - Assad will thoughtfully approach this responsible matter. How do we know what exactly is in these areas ?! We finally have nothing to do with it!
          Intervening in another's war (by the way - what kind of war? Does the government consider this a terrorist attack) is certainly not possible! But to train the Marines a bit is sacred. And who portrayed the enemy and why they feel so bad ... well, how do we know? All were prepared by the Syrians.
          The question is which wrapper to use and how to wrap. If you give the "peace-loving West" an opportunity to retreat, quietly burying the diaper so that no one can see - the West will surely get away. It seems Assad has a real chance ...
          1. Quiet
            +2
            14 January 2013 19: 36
            Most importantly ... No one can figure out Russian missiles or Syrian !!!!
            1. Bashkaus
              +1
              14 January 2013 20: 56
              And do you think there, after scientists, someone wakes up to want to find out whose rockets lay down there?
    7. donchepano
      +4
      14 January 2013 09: 54
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      And even so.


      And large-scale exercises there must be carried out for a long time, and
      Urgent assistance is urgent, despite and not listening to some impudent ssaktsev and America-Serov
      1. 755962
        +3
        14 January 2013 10: 25
        And not long before that ...
        Panetta: America will not send troops to Syria if chemical weapons are used ("The Washington Times", USA)

        “We are not working on options for sending soldiers,” Panetta emphasized at a Pentagon briefing. - I believe that the possibility of a peaceful change of power and the involvement of international organizations that can ask us for help should always be taken into account. But in a dangerous environment, we do not plan to send soldiers».


        http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20130111/204485403.html

        Ss ... t when scared .....
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          +1
          15 January 2013 00: 28
          755962,
          Why should they send their soldiers, these ghouls have a fine-tuned recruitment of terrorists held in American prisons (concentration camps) around the world, and no one needs to pay, "either you go to a hot current, or endless torture in a concentration camp, well, at the same time, they will experience another military development, of course, from a drone or from a strategic bomber.
    8. +3
      14 January 2013 10: 21
      They are afraid - they mean respect. That means they recognize us as an adversary, and therefore they reckon with us as a force.
      Actually, it should be so. Everything returns to normal - everything falls into place. Russia is slowly taking its rightful place in the world ranking table. If you rephrase one well-known phrase, then we can say that the position of a country in the world is judged by its enemies ...
    9. ZKBM-BUT
      +3
      14 January 2013 11: 15
      I want to ask, what is happening in general? the policy of the West with its henchmen is clear to me. they do whatever they want, regardless of morality and chhat wanted what the rest of the world would say. which in turn is also logical, because the rest of the world is always silent or hums. does nothing else. saying that he is not going to lay down his soldiers for the freedom of a foreign country on the battlefield. except that Russia sometimes pokes around, sending ships nearby to swim, and shoot on the waves. but this is a show-off and nothing more. unlike the real actions of the West. and the show-off is very cheap. potamu as a "free army of Syria" and for a second will not stop in their actions from the fact that there are some kind of ships, some kind of Russia, somewhere in the sea are swimming. and you can't argue with that, it's a fact. you know, I live in a small village with a population of about a thousand people. nearby there is a village with a population of almost fifteen thousand and a few more villages around, almost all with a population larger than my village. and at the same time we have always beaten these villages throughout all generations in our youth. besides, no one is still seriously trying to challenge our superiority. Let's just say at first our boys choose girls for themselves, and the rest will get what. why is that? because we are united. We have no whiners who claim that our guys don't wave their fists for someone else's village. we always defend our interests in any locality. for example, if my good friend living in a neighboring village was beaten by fellow villagers, then I will stand up for him, and my fellow villagers will support me. and so we have from generation to generation. therefore they are afraid of us, and whoever is not afraid is at least afraid. why shouldn't we also live as peoples? Why do we leave the Syrians and others to their fate? This Ssykun statement that we have so much warmed up only makes us weaker. and queues up with the Yankees for "de-democratization." After all, tomorrow they will also bomb us, and the Syrians will say - no, we will not go to save the Russians, we have shed so much blood. Here we will beat the show-off with all sorts of resolutions, we will shout condemning demands, but in the news we will show the whole truth. but no, we will not go.
      1. nickname 1 and 2
        +1
        14 January 2013 12: 15
        ZKBM-BUT,
        I look you were not answered. I'll try. It's one thing to wave your fists, and another thing to get a "load of 200". besides, tough guys got rid of for various reasons, and in the army - boys. And it is necessary to resist militants with excellent training.
        Yes, and everyone is tired of - where only our guys are not put and you will not wait for thanks. After all, ours do not understand what is there, other customs, another attitude is required. Let ours only accomplish the feat! And for whom? what? Everything is not simple with them, not in Russian. So something like this appeared = let them fight, and we will stand on the sidelines. With our simplicity, straightforwardness to climb into this "East, it's a delicate matter" and to whom!

        So your anology about village showdowns is not true.
        And not at all times your village will prevail. And in other villages
        "cockerels" will grow up and play on yours. Fitness and other fighting
        1. ZKBM-BUT
          +7
          14 January 2013 13: 10
          I dare to disagree. what an ass excellent preparation for scumbags who do not even know how to read. the damage they inflict is based only on guerrilla tactics and no more. such tactics always cause significant damage with a minimum of cost. brains and skills for such tactics are not necessary. listen even to themselves - two weeks in a camp on the territory of neighboring countries with Syria and go into battle. who you will have time to teach in two weeks. I went through training for six months, then served a year in the unit. when he got into Chechnya, he was an elephant for another six months. In total, it took me two years to become a professional. Potam how to properly teach how to fight a person can only be in real conditions, and not sitting in the classroom and running along the derektrissa or participating in ostentatious battles for bosses. and my village as an example is very suitable. Potam that in order to understand the complex, you must first understand the simple. your fitness, along with other martial arts, works only in the movies. in life, if you don’t have the spirit, then no karate will help you. as for let them fight and we are on the sidelines. Such a view is the norm for Georgia or, for example, for Romania. and for Russia it’s deadly to think so.
        2. Bashkaus
          +6
          14 January 2013 21: 07
          At the expense of your questions: And for whom? why? I will answer this way:
          The Bible has these words: you are the salt of the earth, but if you are spoiled, then with what to salt, and where do you need spoiled salt, they will throw it away.
          So, you know, it just so happened in historical development that Russia is the salt of civilization, perhaps the only country and nation in the world that really still distinguishes black from white and good from evil. It just so happened that we have such a cross, to be a breeding judge in this world, so that he does not destroy himself ... We stopped Napoleon, Hitler, if we had not done this, it is not known what would have happened now? What do you think your grandfather would answer in the 44th, if you stood on the border of the USSR and started shouting, stay Russian soldier, you shed a lot of blood, you liberated your homeland, go home to your wife and children. For some reason it seems to me that your own grandfather would have shot such a lousy grandson without trial and investigation without flinching a finger. Only Russia can stop this cancer, whether you like it or not, but you will have to, and if you already think like them, asking the question "for what?" it means you are already sick, and the cancerous tumor is removed from the body, it means you are no longer Russian.
          Sorry if offended. but you need to look at the world a little wider
      2. ksandr45
        +2
        14 January 2013 14: 07
        Only in your showdown do noses break and people die in wars. And as it’s not difficult to guess, the war collects the same pay from men and women, only it makes some pay with blood and others with tears.
        1. ZKBM-BUT
          +3
          14 January 2013 14: 38
          Well, not only the noses break, and there are corpses. everything happens in life. in general, this whole story can be compared with the situation when there are two high school students healthy. one of them hammering a first-grader, and the second a healthy bull hung a mane and moo condemning aside. and the high school student continues to beat the youngster even with his ear, not leading to the fact that this healthy bull is mooing from his rostrum. yes, yes, this bull is Russia. he would be suitable. Yes, silently without words, it was all the bread and butter to unfold this high school student. but no, he prefers not to interfere. looks great russia right? straight humanly, an example to the rest shows how to live life. Russia will never be great with such behavior. this behavior is characteristic of a third-grade country.
          1. vsa-xnumx
            +3
            14 January 2013 16: 53
            "Russia will never be great with such behavior"


            In principle, I fully agree with EKBM-NO. How long can you look to the "west"? What are they afraid of? Do you think they will twitch? NO! They are cowards by nature.
          2. +1
            14 January 2013 20: 21
            ZKBM-BUT,
            Russia will never be great with such behavior. this behavior is characteristic of a third-grade country.

            No need for the whole of Russia, by the way on the site many will support you. The authorities follow the lead of the West - this is another matter.
      3. +4
        14 January 2013 16: 53
        That is why great generals do according to the principle, "Divide and conquer." For all my dislike of the Anglo-Saxons, I take off my hat to them. They have learned to destroy the state perfectly. With all the friendliness of some regimes, governments and just people, we are not allies. Nobody reaches out to Russia. NATO is an alliance united by commitments. One thing gives hope. By all indications, like any superpower, the United States (and with it NATO) will soon fall apart. And themselves. The blanket is not rubber, many begin to freeze and pull it harder in different directions.
    10. lotus04
      +3
      14 January 2013 12: 09
      And let's suspect them (the West) in the PEACEFUL solution of the Syrian issue. wink
    11. beech
      +2
      14 January 2013 14: 53
      if so, I would like Qatar to let his pants in ... then they will beat our ambassador, then they will finance the terrorists ...
    12. +11
      14 January 2013 17: 40
      You are angry Russian laughing

      1. phantom359
        0
        16 January 2013 02: 24
        Sith Lord, Wow, this is it. on the very eggs.
    13. +1
      14 January 2013 19: 16
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.

      The fact is that we consider them bandits, in the West they are champions of democracy and justice !! And they put us on a par with the terrorists, those that undermine Western values, and if so, then stand on ceremony with us !!
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 21: 12
        Yeah, well then they bombed a city in Mali today? According to official figures, 60 militants were killed after the French air raid. Is it militants there, but are there democrats in Syria?
    14. rolik
      +3
      15 January 2013 13: 13
      For obvious reasons, when phrases like “Assad’s bloody regime”, “Putin is ready to support Assad” and “Russia’s military invasion of Syria” appear in media reports in one material, especially impressionable readers (especially in the West) begin to show up again anti-Russian sentiment.
      Here is the notorious WOW-ORAL AND WOW-ANAL principle of the life of modern Western society (Pelevin's novel "Generation Pi"). They consume what the TV feeds them and release processed information that turns into action or intentions. What they loaded on the subcortex, then at the exit. And they are constantly being told that the Russians are enemies and want to enslave the universe. So what is there to be surprised, no discoveries. Everything the west does is good. Everything that Russia does is a priori bad.
    15. 0
      18 January 2013 01: 28
      It’s time for Russia to act this way.
    16. imguskov
      0
      20 January 2013 19: 45
      This is something! Russia has its own voice. This is already pleasing. Of course, I feel sorry for Libya, Muammar was a devoted friend and would go with Russia to the end. It’s time to put the Americans in their place, and Europe will immediately respect.
  2. lechatormosis
    +10
    14 January 2013 07: 20
    A little more and in the West of schizophrenia will take acute forms.
    ARTICLES of the BLOOD PUTIN EAT type will appear drenched in the blood of LITTLE CHILDREN IN SYRIA.
    1. +10
      14 January 2013 07: 25
      Quote: lehatormoz

      In the WEST of SCHIZOPHRENIA a little more

      It will become the norm like gays, lesbians and the rest ........ am
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +8
        14 January 2013 08: 00
        They have had schizophrenia since 45, after the phrase: "The Russians are coming!" and jump from a skyscraper, it seems Forestola!
        1. rolik
          +5
          15 January 2013 13: 43
          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          jumping from a skyscraper seems Forestol!

          CIA Director James Forrestal threw himself out of a window in 1949 shouting "The Russians are coming"! And he died, as Radzinsky used to say. He stayed in office for only 2 years, and that's how our topic undermined him. By the way, at the moment of being thrown out, he was removed from office due to "nervous exhaustion"))) No one can vouch for the authenticity of the phrase, because they found him already dead. But, they say, he persistently repeated it the day before. wassat
          And then Saakashvili repeated it, hiding under the bodies of his guards from an absolutely invisible, inaudible and nonexistent Russian attack aircraft laughing
      2. +7
        14 January 2013 08: 08
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Will become the norm

        Rather, it will become law, as with gays and lesbians.
        1. +3
          14 January 2013 08: 56
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Rather, it will become law, as with gays and lesbians
          Sanya I have to be there. You know what I'll tell you. There are much more intelligent people there. It's just that their government is crushing, for the sake of Tolerasts, and ginseng-jocks (those who attach rubber to themselves)
          1. +5
            14 January 2013 09: 09
            Quote: Mechanic
            . There are much more intelligent people there.

            Hi Zhenya, even if so, it’s not clear to me which banana they go to the polls and vote for those morons who crush them request
            1. +1
              14 January 2013 11: 18
              This is not entirely true. In ii, electors decide everything, but they do not always do what voters guarantee them. Everything is decided there by the backstage, financial bosses, masons, Mormons and other enemies of mankind)) Amer’s Preziki are just talking heads.
      3. +2
        14 January 2013 09: 06
        So it already is ... The fact is that the majority piously believes in their media and politicians ... They are even more than we are stamped ...
        1. +9
          14 January 2013 09: 27
          Quote: domokl
          So it already is ... The fact is that the majority piously believes in their media and politicians ... They are even more than we are stamped ...
          Hello Alexander. Do you know how those who were here speak of Russia? I can tell you about the Germans, Italians, Bulgarians, Japanese, and much more about whom. so here are some theses about life in Russia:
          1. You live very well, we envy you.
          2. You would have better parliament (of those who do not steal) Then just a song.
          3. All countries went through bribes. Officially they were allowed only in Israel. But over time, everyone understands that peace of the family is much more important than money. Of course, money is not the last, but not the main thing. (This was told to me by a German, deputy minister of heavy engineering) in a private conversation)
          1. +7
            14 January 2013 10: 07
            Hi Eugene! I often talked with foreigners, though now I live in a vacuum ... Siberia ... I know their opinion about us .. But this is only the opinion of those who were in Russia ... Most of the population believes, alas, the media .. And that they write there we know .. By the way, our TV drives such programs to the West that your ears wilt and you want to beat the editors
            1. +2
              14 January 2013 12: 44
              Quote: domokl
              .Siberia..
              Well, that is, I live in a partially discharged Urals? laughing
            2. +3
              14 January 2013 15: 57
              Quote: domokl
              By the way, our TV drives such programs to the West that ears wither and editors want to beat

              Yes ITV International, 1 and 2 international - such a crap, as if from 90's. Continuous series and pop with Kirkorov.
          2. +1
            14 January 2013 11: 20
            it seems that the nus approach this idea, but in order for this idea to enter the head more intensively, we must plant the entire group of Serdyukov.
    2. +7
      14 January 2013 07: 38
      Quote: lehatormoz
      ARTICLES of the BLOOD PUTIN EAT type will appear drenched in the blood of LITTLE CHILDREN IN SYRIA.


      Let the assholes from shitty publishers eat feces on people, we are pissed on these delights and screams, like most of the population of Russia.
    3. ZKBM-BUT
      +1
      14 January 2013 12: 05
      generally parallel to what they say in the west. the main thing is in fact. truth rules the world, not a lie. although sometimes it seems otherwise.
    4. +4
      14 January 2013 19: 32
      Quote: lehatormoz
      A little more and in the West of schizophrenia will take acute forms.
      ARTICLES of the BLOOD PUTIN EAT type will appear drenched in the blood of LITTLE CHILDREN IN SYRIA.


      Yes, their schizo never passed, just the forms of manifestation were different. Is it normal people will build democracy by using bombs and killing defenseless children, women and the elderly, just for the fact that they are and live.
    5. +1
      15 January 2013 20: 45
      Yeah, after he kisses her stomach in her stomach ........... the West has taken acute forms of schizophrenia for a long time, this is a chronic relapse, is not treated hi
  3. +4
    14 January 2013 07: 29
    Large-scale exercises, in which the ships of the United Inter-Navy Group of the Navy of the Russian Federation will participate, begin in the eastern Mediterranean.

    Cold shower on hot western heads.
  4. +1
    14 January 2013 07: 38
    Open a new newspaper for the west. And we need to write the same nasty things in her actions. Pour mud, let them justify that we all misunderstood.
    1. +2
      14 January 2013 09: 05
      Delink,
      Yes there is already! And every day, the first English-language channel TV Russia Today is gaining popularity! wink
      They still try, as far as possible, to explain objectively Russia's policy.
      And lying and dousing opponents is not worthy of our state. The truth is much worse for them!
  5. +7
    14 January 2013 07: 42
    Put article plus sign.
    Why are there Western editions ... We also have our own “soothsayers” in a number of media outlets that echo their foreign colleagues

    Even here leaked in the form of the previous article of a liberal liberal Ishchenko.
    1. botur2013
      +5
      14 January 2013 10: 19
      Tremble tyrant Putin goes to the aid of Assad's bloody regime! smile
  6. StrateG
    +4
    14 January 2013 07: 49
    The news is like a balm for the soul ...
  7. +5
    14 January 2013 07: 57
    West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force

    Ha haaaaaaa. The West, however, began to guess what Russia was going to do with it.
    1. Quiet
      +1
      14 January 2013 20: 04
      We put on the beach loungers with umbrellas and lie down to sunbathe ..... Charter tourists from Russia ..... bully
  8. +2
    14 January 2013 08: 03
    There are 4 BDKs indicated, is there a specialist who can say what kind of marine corps forces can be there? Just wondering. But just ask the specialist to answer, just the answers from the students are not needed.
    1. +3
      14 January 2013 08: 24
      The ships of the project are designed to transport a reinforced company of the Marine Corps or 225 paratroopers and 10 tanks. The dimensions of the cargo compartment are 95 × 4,5 × 4,5 m, the mass of the cargo is up to 480 tons. The landing is located in several cockpits and officer 4-local cabins.

      Is it difficult to go to Vika yourself?
      1. +2
        14 January 2013 08: 50
        Thank. I didn’t guess. )
    2. +2
      14 January 2013 09: 54
      This will make a battalion of Mror infantry with reinforcements. Here we must also look at the projects of these large landing ships. If all four ships are "Poles" of the 775 project, then the battalion will not fit. And if among them there is at least one "cattle carrier" of 1171 projects, then the battalion will enter with a reserve.
      1. Sergh
        +6
        14 January 2013 11: 02
        Quote: erix-06
        And if among them there is at least one "cattle carrier" of 1171 projects, then the battalion will enter

        Of the four large landing craft, three 775 projects are Kaliningrad, Alexander Shabalin, Novocherkassk, as you say, "livestock" Saratov 1171.
        1. +2
          14 January 2013 13: 20
          Well, it means that you can land a battalion with reinforcements on these ships.
          1. +1
            15 January 2013 22: 58
            Rather, there are specialists with technology. Air defense electronic warfare and the like, and not exclusively the marines. The Syrians have enough soldiers, but not very well with "military advisers - specialists". In the 80s, we fired missiles at planes there, our officers.
      2. Quiet
        +1
        14 January 2013 20: 07
        Half sunbathe on the deck, the other half in the cockpit, in the shade, then change ..... laughing
  9. +1
    14 January 2013 08: 12
    The prestige of the country must be raised !!!!!!!
    1. +1
      14 January 2013 18: 54
      Yes, we have the Kremlin, as they say. Readiness, as with her? That is the question ...
  10. OlegYugan
    +4
    14 January 2013 08: 15
    Hilary brought to tantrums - I wonder who is next ??
  11. +11
    14 January 2013 08: 24
    Like, pure coincidence ... This position is even more annoying for the West.
    Well, if it so happened, what can you do then? the teachings according to the schedule, everything is fine, all ships are shattered, equipment malfunctioning machines from the last century, the form freezes, there is nothing to worry about here to the west - with its invisible UAVs for $ 200 million request
    1. +6
      14 January 2013 08: 56
      Kyrgyz,
      And really, why so distracted! bully
      Their liberal agents in Russia have long buried both the army and navy.
      drinks
      1. 0
        14 January 2013 09: 32
        The story of an American, "and around the dead with scythes stand ......" belay laughing recourse
  12. +4
    14 January 2013 08: 24
    And what is left for them besides yapping ???? "In impotent rage, the enemy tore his throat"

    And our armed forces really need these exercises, how much time has passed, and the new composition of officers and soldiers has not participated in such exercises for a long time. A strong army is the right foreign policy!
  13. +5
    14 January 2013 08: 27
    The news is good, but not for everyone. For some reason, the firing range is not designated in advance. In my opinion, these should be areas captured by bandits. Then the stripping will be faster.
    1. +7
      14 January 2013 09: 36
      Well, you know how it happens, GLONASS failed there, the wind was strong and something else ...
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 22: 35
        Quote: RETX
        Well, you know how it happens, GLONASS gave a glitch there, the wind was strong and something else.
        What are you guys talking about? is that you are the first world with a solid line trench? there are civilians mixed with militants! Are they fighting the right way?
  14. +3
    14 January 2013 08: 36
    The main thing is that the Russian command does not change, but clearly gives commands to maintain the status of a country with the right to vote on the issues of the peaceful resolution of international conflicts.
  15. vitaliy-boyko
    +1
    14 January 2013 08: 39
    this west has already reached, they climb as always where they don’t need, by force they need to be put in place.
  16. +10
    14 January 2013 08: 42
    How quickly the Anglo-Saxons got used to the "good" ... When our ships did not go anywhere and stupidly rotted at the pier or even "better" went to eternal rest to be melted down or as some kind of attraction in the park ...
    And then a whole group came out, a large landing craft, a cruiser, patrol boats, and a nuclear submarine for sure, what a UZHOS !!! It's all the despotic "Putin's regime" to blame, the Russians want to take over the world again !!! "Evil Empire" is reborn !!!

    But seriously, damn it, how did these Western mongrels get it, when did they calm down? ... Thank God, the time has passed when Russia did something, or did NOT do it from the West, it’s time for them to get used to the fact that The bear has already risen from its knees, and all these screams and tantrums are nothing more than barking pugs at the elephant.
  17. Director
    +2
    14 January 2013 08: 50
    a newspaper idea is good, but not real. strangle her in our country because everything is bought and sold. And money, as is known in the West, even from our politicians and the elite "if you can call it that."
  18. Cavas
    +28
    14 January 2013 08: 56
    For obvious reasons, when phrases like “Assad’s bloody regime”, “Putin is ready to support Assad” and “Russia’s military invasion of Syria” appear in media reports in one material, especially impressionable readers (especially in the West) begin to show up again anti-Russian sentiment.

    Let the West Pray That Their Seal Does Not Come Out With Headlines "The Arab rebels took Paris", "Russian military landing on the coast of France", "Putin is the liberator of Europe"!

    1. +3
      14 January 2013 10: 11
      Thanks bro. Cool art
  19. +9
    14 January 2013 08: 57
    The West is capable of many nasty things in relation to our group, and we must keep our ears open. However, I am very glad that we returned to Mediterranean, and not with a rotten hydrograph, but with a very real force. That only "Moscow" with its 16 containers is worth. In the 80s, we were, oh, how they reckoned with us, the Americans held two aircraft carriers each (more often Saratoga and Coralsey), and we had a full-blooded Mediterranean flotilla, which in this area could solve any problems.
  20. +8
    14 January 2013 08: 58
    Lived, we rise from our knees!
    If the West does not like something, then it can look the other way!
    1. +3
      14 January 2013 09: 14
      There is one BUT where these creatures would not turn their heads, we are everywhere. The country is og-go-go! Yes, and they seem to have nowhere else to watch, they all seduced ...
    2. Vanek
      +2
      14 January 2013 09: 51
      Quote: omsbon
      If the West does not like something, then it can look the other way!


      Handsomely!!!
  21. Alx1miK
    0
    14 January 2013 09: 00
    This is the guys rattling weapons in my opinion - we’ll land vryatli. Although who knows what may change in 1-2 months.
    1. +3
      14 January 2013 09: 20
      Alx1miK,
      Well, why! The exercises provide for the landing of marines, and even with the support of anti-aircraft artillery and equipment. Another question is that we should not move further than the base territory. They may also accuse of an illegal military invasion of the territory of a sovereign state that is not part of a military bloc with Russia. For horror, this is enough, t. K. The militants are not aware of our plans, but everything incomprehensible scares! bully
      1. +2
        15 January 2013 04: 43
        Quote: sergo0000
        Another question is that we should not move further than the base territory. They may also accuse of an illegal military invasion of the territory of a sovereign state that is not part of a military bloc with Russia.

        Well, why blame. With Syria there is an agreement on military-technical cooperation, they will provide the territory for exercises under this agreement, so that everything is legal. Well, whoever didn’t hide, we are not to blame!
  22. Mavsik
    +1
    14 January 2013 09: 03
    These exercises are a retaliatory step towards building up a missile defense system in Turkey. During the exercises, one should expect provocations from the "democratic appazition of Syria" and their owners - so I do not rule out "hitting civilians during the firing of shells", etc.
  23. +16
    14 January 2013 09: 05
    In my opinion, the goals of the Russian Navy grouping in the Mediterranean are:

    1. The Russian Navy has not conducted exercises with the forces of three fleets for a long time. In my opinion, there is a check of coordination of the fleets of Russia on practice.
    2. By conducting exercises, provide psychological, moral support, not only to President B. Asad but the authorities in general. The fact is that, no, no, there were nymphs about the transition of high-ranking officials to the side of the armed opposition. contribute to the strengthening and consolidation of power in Syria.
    3. To show the West that it is time to reckon with Russia. Russia an important geopolitical player in resolving global issues.These teachings serve as a kind of reminder and warning those who have a short memory. That is, in other words, without taking into account the opinion and interests of Russia, this problem can not be solved. IMHO
    1. +4
      14 January 2013 09: 16
      Apollo. Hello my friend. I can object to you.
      Quote: Apollon
      The Russian Navy has not conducted exercises with the forces of three fleets for a long time. In my opinion, coordination of the Russian fleets is being checked in practice.
      How are you practicing today?
      Quote: Apollon
      Conducting exercises to provide psychological and moral support, not only to President B. Assad but also to the authorities as a whole. The fact is that, no, there were no nymphs about the transition of high-ranking officials to the side of the armed opposition. These exercises help strengthen and consolidate power in Syria.
      This does not surprise anyone in the world. They will fit a little more than their fleet. And kirdyk to all our ships.
      Quote: Apollon
      Show the West that it’s time to reckon with Russia. Russia is an important geopolitical player in resolving global issues. These exercises serve as a kind of reminder to those who have a short memory. That is, in other words, without taking into account the views and interests of Russia this problem cannot be solved. Imkho
      I understand that this is only your opinion personally, there is one thing but. Our fleet is 3 times smaller than any NATO fleet (I’m not talking about under-covers), they just throw us boots. And if we can oppose something off our shores (proximity to repair facilities, fuel depots), then in the oceans we fell to the level of a teenager who is now starting to run into a man in 120 kilos. So now we are a little higher than China, but with the Yankees we can’t butle at sea (we’ll lose the last)
      1. +8
        14 January 2013 09: 31
        Quote: Mechanic
        I understand that this is only your opinion personally, there is one thing but. Our fleet is 3 times smaller than any NATO fleet (I’m not talking about under-covers), they just throw us boots. And if we can oppose something off our shores (proximity to repair facilities, fuel depots), then in the oceans we fell to the level of a teenager who is now starting to run into a man in 120 kilos. So now we are a little higher than China, but with the Yankees we can’t butle at sea (we’ll lose the last)


        I greet you Eugene! hi
        In the West, all the same, since the Soviet Union the complex remained, at the very last moment he passes.Of course, the political and military leadership of Russia is aware that the forces are incommensurable. But these exercises do not aim to intimidate anyone, in this case the main goal is to show that Russia in this region has its own geopolitical interests, which it will certainly defend .
        Of course, we can only assume true goals behind seven castles, for that it is a state secret.
        1. nickname 1 and 2
          +1
          14 January 2013 10: 03
          Quote: Apollon
          it’s also a state secret.


          it seemed to me that not on this forum smile
      2. +9
        14 January 2013 09: 41
        This does not surprise anyone in the world. They will fit a little more than their fleet. And kirdyk to all our ships.


        Kirdyk is kirdyk, but this is already at the beginning of the 3rd World War, and those who are going there to adjust something a little more, also realize this. And Russia, in addition to the fleet (even if today is not able to compete with the navies of NATO countries), has a pardon, nuclear submarines with intercontinental missiles, there are strategists with cruise missiles and there is a "grove" of Topol, Ash, and other "trees" ... And the fact that we have now fallen to the level of a teenager, who is now starting to run into a man of 120 kilos, there is nothing wrong with that, when this "teenager" has at least 3-4 peasants behind him with "clubs", "poplars", etc. .d. hi
        1. 0
          14 January 2013 12: 50
          Quote: Rus_87
          Kirdyk is kirdyk, but this is already at the beginning of the 3rd World War, and those who are going there to adjust something a little more, also realize this. And Russia, in addition to the fleet (even if today is not able to compete with the navies of NATO countries), has a pardon, nuclear submarines with intercontinental missiles, there are strategists with cruise missiles and there is a "grove" of Topol, Ash, and other "trees" ... And the fact that we have now fallen to the level of a teenager, who is now starting to run into a man of 120 kilos, there is nothing wrong with that, when this "teenager" has at least 3-4 peasants behind him with "clubs", "poplars", etc. .d.
          Duck, until we fire a volley of nuclear weapons, the 3 will not be global, but there’s no way to untie it with anyone. So all will be pieces of paper between the Foreign Ministries to fight later. In general, how much can you shake your nuclear member on the site? This is a deterrent weapon. And everyone understands that its use is the end of our civilization.
      3. nickname 1 and 2
        +4
        14 January 2013 09: 55
        Mechanic,

        In your opinion, it turns out until our fleet is numerically superior to the NATO fleets or (and) SyShya, do we need to sit and not lean out?

        And what do all fleets need to stick together? Are they not players individually either?
        1. +3
          14 January 2013 12: 51
          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          In your opinion, it turns out until our fleet is numerically superior to the NATO fleets or (and) SyShya, do we need to sit and not lean out?
          In my opinion, our fleet should not be seen as a club in that region. He is just a witness to what is happening there. and as a rather indirect one there is no invasion of Syria.
          1. nickname 1 and 2
            +1
            14 January 2013 22: 45
            Mechanic,
            I don't even consider it. But then they came and did the right thing. and let them shoot and make noise, and let every living creature that has an eye look and "imagine" something. And let someone else remember - AI Mosca, know she is strong when she barks at an elephant!
      4. +2
        14 January 2013 11: 13
        Quote: Mechanic
        Our fleet is 3 times smaller than any NATO fleet (I'm not talking about the under-covers), they just throw us boots. And if we can oppose something off our shores (proximity to repair facilities, fuel depots), then in the oceans we fell to the level of a teenager who is now starting to run into a man at 120 kilos. So now we are a little higher than China, but with the Yankees we can’t butle at sea (we’ll lose the last)

        Wait a second: you raised the question of "weight categories" not quite correctly and objectively. Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs. In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose missile landed on our ship. The size of the fleets of course matters, but only with an already legalized war. And in that war, the States and NATO as a whole will not count their fleets.
        1. +1
          14 January 2013 12: 54
          Quote: TUNISIA
          Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs. In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose rocket fell on our ship.
          Do not confuse the right of civilian ships with the military.
          Quote: TUNISIA
          The size of the fleets, of course, matters, but only with an already legalized war. And in that war, the States and NATO as a whole will not have their fleet counted.
          Legal warfare is absurd. And what in this case do you expect Russia to deliver a preemptive strike on the territories of NATO states or on the Yankees?
          1. +1
            14 January 2013 17: 27
            Maybe I'm certainly not right, but dissuade me in this, as regards the TERRITORY of the state. What is the difference between civilian and warships in relation to this? Only in the possible consequences. And then, not sure.
            And about the preemptive strike. Formally and legally, a strike, if it is considered as a measure, will not be preventive, but retaliatory. And these are different things. And where it will be inflicted if something happens - the Supreme Commander will determine.
            1. +1
              14 January 2013 18: 37
              Quote: TUNISIA
              Maybe I'm certainly not right, but dissuade me in this, as regards the TERRITORY of the state. What is the difference between civilian and warships in relation to this? Only in the possible consequences. And then, not sure.
              A military unit that entered into battle is either surface or underwater. Without declaring war, it is an independent combat unit that does not belong to the flag raised above it. Read the Maritime Code of Practice.
              1. +3
                14 January 2013 21: 47
                Mechanic, there are no questions: I spoke out, you brought a counterargument with which I agree, I will not argue, because, apparently, I am not strong in naval affairs drinks One thing, I think, remains unchanged: no one will dare to try this combat unit "to the teeth." The situation does not favor this.
              2. 0
                15 January 2013 04: 50
                Quote: Mechanic
                Without declaring war, it is an independent combat unit that does not belong to the flag raised above it. Read the Maritime Code of Practice.

                And to whom then does this independent unit belong?
        2. +2
          14 January 2013 13: 05
          Quote: Mechanic
          In my opinion, our fleet should not be seen as a club in that region. He is just a witness to what is happening there. and as a rather indirect one there is no invasion of Syria.

          I agree with the fleet of the same Turkey (located nearby is an order of magnitude more powerful than the group)

          Quote: TUNISIA
          Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs. In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose rocket fell on our ship.

          You are absolutely right that NATO will not start the 3 World War because of Syria (since the consequences of an attack on a grouping of Russian ships will cause it unambiguously) so Russia will not start it because of Syria. In general, it will end up by scribbling and scattering, and in Syria what will be continued. for Bandyugan a month or two is not a deadline (they will wait until the ships leave), and they are fighting in the depths of the territory (the Alavites live on the coast). Assad’s weapons are already enough, high-tech tools are not needed to fight the partisans.
          In general, my conclusion is that Assad will beautifully and morally support (which is important) It will have practically no effect on the military choir (or only in a very short term)
          Quote: TUNISIA
          And in that war, the States and NATO as a whole will not have their fleet counted

          What fleets? You laugh - the 3 World War I will be exclusively nuclear, whoever counts the fleets there, the states will turn to dust, everyone understands this and therefore is convinced that there will be no military confrontation between NATO and Russia over Syria. Not the reason for ruining the whole world.
          1. +3
            14 January 2013 13: 30
            I agree with the fleet of the same Turkey (located nearby is an order of magnitude more powerful than the group)
            No, this is not so. For we do not know what is UNDER water. But I'm more than sure that no less than 4-5 of our submarines graze there. Do you think the Turks want to experience a volley of granites? or look for Warsaw?
            1. +3
              14 January 2013 13: 44
              But I'm more than sure that no less than 4-5 of our submarines graze there.

              Too much in my opinion ... 2-3, somehow a more real number. We’re not going to get involved in war, but just for reconnaissance.
              1. +2
                14 January 2013 13: 48
                why do you measure the scale of the Mediterranean, and this is not the whole section, it starts from the Atlantic and ends with the Black Sea. So they carry out combat patrols, and when necessary they will gather at the warrant.
                1. +1
                  14 January 2013 13: 53
                  But how can I measure them yet? The submarines were created to guard the warrant and conduct secret intelligence. I do not pretend to be true, I will not argue. It’s just that the number in the 5-6 submarines seemed a bit much - why control the whole Mediterranean Sea?
                  1. +3
                    14 January 2013 14: 00
                    The submarines were created to guard the warrant and conduct secret intelligence.
                    no it's not
                    More precisely, the order is protected by submarines by NK and Aviation.
                    The submarine has the task of escort, reconnaissance and strike. For a competent diver can go so that no one hears and does not sit on his tail.
                    Why control the whole Mediterranean Sea?
                    I say it all starts with the Atlantic. For example, an Amer group of ships comes out, our submarine leads it quietly. If another order comes, then they can also collect a group of hunters.
              2. +2
                14 January 2013 20: 52
                Wedmak,
                May I ask the English, they know exactly what and how much it entered and exited into the Mediterranean Sea by water and under water. Gibraltar possession of Great Britain in the south of the Iberian Peninsula; includes rock and sandy isthmus. The eyes and ears of NATO.
                1. 0
                  14 January 2013 21: 05
                  Sorry, I don’t have a direct UK Navy phone. smile
                  1. 0
                    14 January 2013 21: 51
                    And about 2-3 submarines, it’s not they you have been informed or guessed yourself? lol
            2. +3
              14 January 2013 16: 06
              Quote: leon-iv
              . Do you think the Turks want to experience a volley of granites? or look for Warsaw?

              Again you shoot shoot. Understand correctly, the attack of the ships is a full-scale military conflict with all the ensuing consequences. Turkey will not do this. In general, with Turkey, the problem will block the straits, where will they return?
              Although in my opinion the solution to the Syrian problem is quite simple. Turkey is the main sponsor of the CCA, the bases and centers are located on its territory. It is enough for Russia to introduce a visa regime with the Turks (having undermined the flow of hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists), stop import-export and Turkey having lost billions, think that it is more profitable to support the SSA or to be friends with Assad. And the ships should not be sent with the lives of soldiers. A year later, without Russian money, Turkey will stretch her legs and feed her not only SSA, she will have nothing
              1. Denzel13
                +3
                14 January 2013 16: 35
                Quote: atalef
                In general, with Turkey, the problem will block the straits, where will they return?


                By the way, it was precisely the problem that you voiced in the USSR that 98 VDD should have solved in a joint operation with the Air Force and Navy.
              2. +3
                14 January 2013 16: 40
                Quote: atalef
                Again you shoot shoot. Understand correctly, the attack of the ships is a full-scale military conflict with all the ensuing consequences. Turkey will not do this. In general, with Turkey, the problem will block the straits, where will they return?
                Although in my opinion the solution to the Syrian problem is quite simple. Turkey is the main sponsor of the CCA, the bases and centers are located on its territory. It is enough for Russia to introduce a visa regime with the Turks (having undermined the flow of hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists), stop import-export and Turkey having lost billions, think that it is more profitable to support the SSA or to be friends with Assad. And the ships should not be sent with the lives of soldiers. A year later, without Russian money, Turkey will stretch her legs and feed her not only SSA, she will have nothing

                What is the Delitanian estimate of the budget filling by Turkey? Let it be known to you dear that Tourism in Turkey is about 1/20 of their budget. The country has a heavy industry, woodworking, light industry. The country is located between Gaivropa and Asia. This determines its potential. You think that the paints and varnishes that you bought in the store are made by us. Fuck you !!! TURKISH !!!!!!!!!!!!! If we introduce an embargo, then everything. But we also eat normally. It will be possible to forget about the Black Sea ports. Turkey passes its warp through them, at its discretion. And it will not be difficult to put our dry cargo ship in line for a month there, and the main thing in Geyvrop is who knows what. In fact, Turkey is now between a rock and a hard place. Erdogan is also trying not to take a shit with NATO and not let the fire at the gate to his house. And the fire is preparing strong. Assad, having given the Kurds a part of the territory, lit the fuse of such a "barrel of gunpowder" !!!! That the next slaughter will be on the territory of Turkey, Azerbaijan and Armenia at least !!!
                At the moment, we need not to intimidate Turkey but show Erdogan that we are ready for dialogue and cooperation. But at the same time it’s hard to make it clear that with all this, Syria is also vital for us!
                1. 0
                  14 January 2013 18: 23
                  Prokhor, you are right, but we should not turn into a spittoon, and the country's honor is more important than 30 pieces of silver
                2. +2
                  14 January 2013 20: 22
                  Quote: PROXOR
                  What kind of delitana assessment of budget filling by Turkey? Let it be known to you, dear, that Tourism in Turkey is approximately 1 / 20 of their budget

                  The commodity circulation between Russia and Turkey is 31bn., Or do you think that the threat of losing such money will not make Turkey think? I am not saying that they will go around the world, but the leverage is not small.
              3. +1
                14 January 2013 16: 48
                No, this is not so unfortunately. Tourists are not the main source. But here we have a weapon worse than Onishchenko.

                By the way about the shoot. I am against violence.
            3. +1
              14 January 2013 18: 41
              Quote: leon-iv
              I agree with the fleet of the same Turkey (located nearby is an order of magnitude more powerful than the group)
              No, this is not so. For we do not know what is UNDER water. But I'm more than sure that no less than 4-5 of our submarines graze there. Do you think the Turks want to experience a volley of granites? or look for Warsaw?
              Sorry dear. But if there is a submarine then why no one knows about them? How do the submarines leave the port, and the Yankees and their sneaks know nothing about this? So then their intelligence works well.
              1. +2
                14 January 2013 20: 13
                You see, you forget all the time that there is an information war in the world right now. Well, the submarines are gone, and what can you not show them on TV? As they call at the ports, our sailors walk in beautiful uniforms.
                But according to the stories of a relative, this campaign was conceived without Syria, and there will certainly be a whole bouquet there.
          2. +1
            14 January 2013 17: 38
            atalef,
            What fleets? You are laughing

            I'm laughing. It was about the mastaba of that war that I meant that everyone would have no time to count their fleets. Or maybe no one ...
        3. +2
          14 January 2013 17: 46
          Quote: TUNISIA
          In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose rocket fell on our ship.

          The matter is not the fact of the attack of the Russian ship, any missile or plane will be considered as an attack on the warrant (sailors cannot know for sure who the rocket appeared on the radio horizon is aimed at, and will act on the basis that their ships are attacking ... (necessary measures will be taken even before the first missile or bomb falls on a Russian ship) - this is a war. At one time, two Soviet ships also foiled the intervention in Libya, appearing near its shores ...
        4. +1
          15 January 2013 04: 47
          Quote: TUNISIA
          Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs.

          Not only the ship, but also the airspace a few tens of meters above it. If I am mistaken, correct it.
  24. +16
    14 January 2013 09: 08
    Waiting for the news, the Russian Armed Forces, with the support of the naval artillery, began an operation to protect the legitimate constitutional authority of Syria from terrorist gangs. A missile strike was launched at the reference points of the militants and places of accumulation of military equipment. The command of the united fleet grouping apologizes to the Turkish authorities for inflicting, as a result of an outdated technology error, a missile strike on the territory of a Russian-friendly state. The fact that erroneous blows were applied to the places of deployment of air defense systems is an accident.
    1. 0
      14 January 2013 10: 16
      what a handsome man. still apologize not only to Turkey drinks
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 11: 55
        And before the others, we will apologize for the abandoned boots in the ICBM launch control panel
  25. +4
    14 January 2013 09: 17
    It was precisely the maneuvers planned by Russia for the Navy ships off the coast of Syria with the call to Tartus that became the object of incessant criticism from the West. A number of Western news agencies reported on the upcoming exercises of Russian ships in the eastern Mediterranean as an attempt by Moscow to resolve the Syrian issue by forceful intervention from outside.

    Well, who would have thought ?? What impudence on the part of Russia, right?
    That’s who would crow, these are Westerners. I think many were convinced that such a reaction would follow from there.

    The article is definitely a plus.
    1. +4
      14 January 2013 10: 18
      Quote: Wedmak
      That’s who would crow, these are Westerners.


      In our country at the word
      Quote: Wedmak
      crowed

      represent a rooster.

      That's just the word rooster about a bird think less and less
      1. +5
        14 January 2013 10: 27
        That's just the word rooster about a bird think less and less

        Ahh .. you understood the idea correctly. smile Itself is shocked that so diplomatically called the whole "progressive" West ne ... mi. hi
  26. +3
    14 January 2013 09: 22
    at the same time we find out how many submarines of a pedostan are nearby
    1. +3
      14 January 2013 09: 34
      Quote: Slevinst

      at the same time, we know how many submarines of the pedostan are nearby
      We won't find out. But they will know what kind of fist we have. Don't treat the enemy like a child. Remember the Kursk. And this was the last frontier of Russia at that time.
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 10: 50
        Listen, so Stalingrad was once the last frontier ... and what happened.
      2. +2
        14 January 2013 10: 55
        Well, Kursk is not so clear. Sevflot more adhere to the opinion of the training torpedo.
        1. 0
          14 January 2013 12: 56
          Quote: leon-iv
          Sevflot more adhere to the opinion of the training torpedo.
          Greetings dear. What do you think that the training torpedo could smash 5 bays?
          1. +1
            14 January 2013 13: 00
            Greetings dear. What do you think that the training torpedo could smash 5 bays?

            Excuse me, which 5 compartments are you talking about? If memory serves, only the first compartment was destroyed and the second was badly damaged.
            And the explosion of one torpedo could lead to the detonation of the entire ammunition.
          2. +1
            14 January 2013 13: 33
            It is not strange yes. there followed the detonation of the BC. A relative is now on the database. I’ll ask how I come back so that their torpedoes unsubscribe. They’ll describe it better. And the fact that the amers there were their fact. Like us in their exercises, this is normal now.
      3. +1
        14 January 2013 11: 35
        there is a chance to get even. I won’t be surprised if the Ka27 will seek and give target designation to enemy hunters with their subsequent localization, and then on the circumstances. Let's say a fire on a Virginia class boat, or there is an explosion of a training torpedo.
  27. +1
    14 January 2013 09: 35
    Quote: sergo0000
    liberal agents in Russia have long buried both the army and navy.

    The story of an American, "and around the dead with scythes stand ......" belay laughing recourse
  28. fenix57
    0
    14 January 2013 09: 37
    Quote: Sakhalininets
    as they say, the dog barks and wears wind.

    I apologize: The dog barks, the caravan goes hi
  29. CCA
    CCA
    +1
    14 January 2013 09: 44
    West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force
    This is truly a diamond of double standards ... And the fact that the West itself, for the second year in a row has been trying to advance a resolution through the UN to resolve the Syrian issue by force ... Is that how?!?!? Yes, even if at least they already suspect it, it will definitely have to be taken into account the opinion of Russia ...
  30. +1
    14 January 2013 09: 56
    Teaching is good! Even better is the planned restoration of the Navy with the construction of new ships for various purposes. I hope so. exercises will help determine priorities in this matter.
  31. +1
    14 January 2013 09: 57
    Be that as it may, our ships go to the shores of Syria, and "Saratov" will definitely be in Tartu !!! And then - let's see what grows))
  32. +1
    14 January 2013 09: 58
    From my point of view, an interesting nymph on the feed of news sites has just appeared. In my opinion, it deserves attention. So
    Media: Iran spies on Israel through two tracking stations in Syria

    WASHINGTON, 14 January. Iran has created two stations for listening and electronic data collection in Syria. This is stated in a special report by the US Department of Defense.

    One such station is located in the northern part of the country, the other in the Syrian part of the Golan Heights. The station was reportedly created by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in 2006, with the support of the Syrian regime. The personnel at these sites are Iranian specialists. They are collecting information for the Lebanese Shiite terrorist organization Hezbollah, the report says.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/01/14/1080753.html
    1. +2
      14 January 2013 11: 31
      Well, far without Israel! good
    2. +2
      14 January 2013 12: 32
      Quote: Apollon
      Iran spies on Israel through two tracking stations in Syria

      Yeah, but Israel is white and fluffy, and does not spy on anyone ... laughing
  33. Volkhov
    +1
    14 January 2013 09: 59
    Nowhere is it said about the participation of the Syrian side in the "exercises", and this is mandatory when operating on their territory. Most of all reminiscent of the "Weserubung" at 40, only those were not announced in a month.
    Landing on the coast against tankers and gunners in Idlib, and between them Syria.
    1. +1
      14 January 2013 10: 06
      Moreover, I have not seen a single comment by the Syrian side on our teachings. This is somehow alarming.
  34. +6
    14 January 2013 10: 01
    Russia has suspected the West of a military solution to the "Syrian issue". In response, it was decided to conduct planned exercises in the Syrian territory.
  35. 0
    14 January 2013 10: 16
    Walk Russia! Goodbye, gevrop! Comes to the West the most, the most concrete ..op!
  36. +1
    14 January 2013 10: 18
    I am not much concerned about a dog running with its tail between its legs, but I’m immediately alert if it doesn’t run away and get confused if it has bared!
    So here - Russia, just did not leave the road. Let them think what they want!
    1. 0
      14 January 2013 10: 29
      Quote: VadimSt
      I am not much concerned about a dog running with its tail between its legs, but I’m immediately alert if it doesn’t run away and get confused if it has bared!


      Somehow your comparison is not very. Even almost humiliating.
      1. +6
        14 January 2013 10: 32
        Now fix the colleague hi
        You can arrange the roles in this scene yourself, so 08/08/08 was ... Vasya was Georgia then
        1. 0
          15 January 2013 20: 58
          Micah’s next tie will be ......... Colombian laughing
  37. j9qq6
    +1
    14 January 2013 10: 19
    Assad would have to squeeze the "OPOSITIONERS" into the area of ​​our "exercises", and there he could arrange pincers.
    1. Volkhov
      +1
      14 January 2013 10: 27
      All 100 thousand with tanks and long-range guns, the latest Pturs and Pzrk.
  38. 0
    14 January 2013 10: 30
    Hello everyone, imagine that during the landing exercises there was an attack on the Russian military by the SSA, write down your likely developments, what will be the actions of NATO and the EU when Russia takes retaliatory measures?
    1. +3
      14 January 2013 10: 40
      SSA - such a term does not exist, it is a notion of the West. Bandits do not fight against a well-armed opponent. If they get stoned and nevertheless try to somehow provoke our marines, then I think they will immediately receive a missile and artillery strike from the BDK and support ships - no one will talk to them. Marines and sailors will act first, and then scratch their tongues. If it is with anyone ...
      1. 0
        14 January 2013 10: 48
        The fact that the terrorists will receive a retaliatory strike, I have no doubt, I am interested in further actions of NATO! They will not go into open confrontation ...
        1. +2
          14 January 2013 10: 54
          They will not go to a military confrontation and will keep their mongrel. Perhaps some types, like McCain, bark a little, such as inadequate responses, etc. But that’s all over.
          1. 0
            14 January 2013 11: 24
            And this option is possible: America, which does not have to enter into conflict, can make good money by selling weapons to Europe, which, in principle, is interested in a change of power in Syria. Are European countries not trying to gain access to hydrocarbon reserves in the region by gaining energy independence from Russia?
            1. +2
              14 January 2013 11: 41
              And what will Europe pay America for weapons? Loans? So, they are already head over heels in these loans, they don’t know where to go. Moreover, they have at stake the collapse of the Eurozone, the economy is barely breathing, what kind of arms purchases are there.
              Are European countries not trying to gain access to hydrocarbon reserves in the region by gaining energy independence from Russia?

              Um .. Yes, for God's sake let them try, only here they also need money to develop their deposits.
    2. 0
      14 January 2013 10: 47
      The US has already gorged itself beyond measure in other countries. They still do not dare to attack Iran. If, in this case, our shuranut opposition, the Americans are unlikely to do anything, remembering that the supply of the Afghan group is going through our territory. There is no transit - they have a skiff. And even Europeans will be advised not to twitch too much. Only, I think, after the exercises, part of the "broken and not suitable for utilization" military equipment should be left to Assad for utilization.
    3. +3
      14 January 2013 11: 24
      I think that such an attack is theoretically possible on the territory of our base in Tartus. We will repel the attack, but NATO will be smoked on the sidelines: they currently have no legal basis for a military presence in Syria. In the presence of a powerful grouping of the Russian Federation, they are in jeopardy to violate international law and UN decisions. So there will be no action on their part in the event of a monkey attack.
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 11: 33
        Hmm ... I agree, legally we will be right in all respects! But what about Iraq? NATO invaded the territory of a sovereign state without having the UN Security Council decision as a basis, there were no resolutions on Iraq allowing the United States to deploy its troops! Will there be a violation of international law in this case, because the Americans are, in principle, big fans of "word play"?
        1. 0
          14 January 2013 11: 43
          After all, Americans are, in principle, big fans of "word games"

          Very large, I agree. But three wars battered them a little, they sat there firmly and there is no light at the end of this "ass".
        2. +1
          14 January 2013 17: 57
          Quote: mrripply
          But what about Iraq? NATO invaded the territory of a sovereign state without having the UN Security Council decision as a basis, there were no resolutions on Iraq allowing the United States to deploy its troops! Will there be a violation of international law in this case, because the Americans are, in principle, big fans of "word play"?

          No, with Iraq everything was much simpler for the Americans: they did not have any counterbalance on the second side of the scale, and the word “no” by the Security Council means nothing to them.
          Imagine an average family. There is a disobedient son-bully of a high opinion of himself and who considers himself an adult who wants to naughty. Mom became aware of his plans and she says "no". At the same time, the son does not obey and does his own thing. Another time, when my mother said “no” to her son’s plans to repeat her act, a father with a wide belt appeared on the doorstep and threatened to slap his bully son along the cranial scar. The situation is the same here.
  39. -1
    14 January 2013 10: 31
    IMHO. Syria needs to become a "vassal" of Russia, so that Russia has a free hand to resolve the conflict by force. If it gives a ride, then ours will manage there in a couple of weeks. In this situation, the alliance will have nothing to argue, tk. we will defend ourselves legally :)
    1. +6
      14 January 2013 10: 42
      IMHO. Syria needs to become a "vassal" of Russia, so that Russia has a free hand to resolve the conflict by force. If it gives a ride, then ours will manage there in a couple of weeks. In this situation, the alliance will have nothing to argue, tk. we will defend ourselves legally :)

      Syria is doing pretty well. Why do we need vassals? Syria is a free state, if it asks for help, then we will think, and colonial policy has never been applicable to Russia.
      1. 0
        14 January 2013 12: 16
        The word vassal is taken for a reason in quotation marks: | For the gifted I will explain that this does not imply the creation of a colony, a new republic, or anything else in a similar sense, but only the creation of a legal basis for conducting military operations in the form of protecting "their" territories.

        After resolving the issue, they would simply have returned their sovereignty to them. In this way, we could protect Syria. And if we defend Syria, then we defend our borders.

        In other matters, the implementation of such a scenario is extremely complicated. It would be necessary to hold a referendum in Syria. NATO countries would definitely try to exert pressure and in every possible way prevent Syria from becoming an object of defense of the Russian Federation.
        1. 0
          14 January 2013 12: 34
          Well, actually, you yourself answered your own question. smile
    2. +1
      14 January 2013 11: 05
      I would be a little more restrained. We have already "carried out" the cleansing of Grozny with the forces of one airborne regiment. There, the same stoned Arabs and civil war where there is no front line.
      1. +2
        14 January 2013 11: 27
        In Grozny they merged everyone and waited for ours. And then there is a combat-ready army, which needs only a little help
      2. +1
        14 January 2013 11: 46
        In Grozny, there were not stoned Arabs, but trained fighters with RPGs and a bunch of small arms. There was a very sad miscalculation with the introduction of tanks into the city, in general, our "commanders" broke a lot of firewood.
        I hope this bloody lesson has been firmly learned by our command.
        1. +1
          14 January 2013 12: 20
          Judging by the successful military operation against Georgia, there should not be any special problems. And the situation is different, the very status of Syria will scare off NATO.
        2. +1
          15 January 2013 17: 18
          Wedmak,
          NOT THE COMMANDERS BROWNED THE FIREBOARDS AND THE HIGHER COMMAND.
          Commanders died as well, if not more. The deceased Rokhlin, the kingdom of heaven to him, as he fought with our pasha. Did not help. The best defense minister of all time and all the crap. I think Rokhlin was not just removed. The real commander was.
  40. 0
    14 January 2013 10: 38
    By the way, I have vague suspicions, but does France in Mali want to resolve the issue by force?
    Is it far from Mali to Syria? or maybe the custodians are so driving aid to the militants in Syria?
    1. +1
      14 January 2013 10: 47
      Quote: bddrus
      Is it far from Mali to Syria?


      Buy a globe.

      Quote: Bezarius
      Syria needs to become a "vassal" of Russia,


      not a vassal, but a member of the SCO. And the fuckers are not happy with everything.
      1. 0
        14 January 2013 12: 21
        Well, by the way, yes. Membership in the SCO would do.
  41. +4
    14 January 2013 10: 53
    Zadolbali these residents P and ndostana, like they can do anything, but not Russia. It's time for them to wean from such a position ...
  42. +8
    14 January 2013 11: 04
    Our military strength is not only growing. We, in principle, can just sit on our resources and not even try to sculpt iPhones. Touching that we were left ancestors starts to work. Even our land, which is not particularly productive, begins to give benefits, because in the World, sown areas are just dumbly ending.
    In short, we only need to fend off the raids. And for this we are in Syria. We meet the enemy at distant approaches. The enemy will soon be bent. Without resources, on iPhone only you can’t go far. They understand that. Everyone understands this. They will get a snot under Syria - Russia will take off in geopolitics and others will rush for protection. And these are already sales markets (weapons, nuclear power plants, railways, construction of mines, etc.) And liberal methodists will simply be methodically finished
    1. +3
      14 January 2013 11: 49
      If we just sit down on resources, the assaults will not only not stop, but will intensify to such an extent that Russia will fall apart into a dozen autonomous regions. We will never be left alone, but if we have a combat-ready army, we will have development.
    2. +1
      15 January 2013 17: 22
      Magadan,
      Ai backgrounds and iPads may not need to be sculpted, but high technologies need to be developed. Remember Leskov with a flea.
  43. +8
    14 January 2013 11: 04
    Well, it's not all Borka to drive a drunken company of paratroopers into Kosovo. It is now 1999 and 2013. And Russia can afford to send a sea fishery division as an "exercise" with the permission of the current authorities. Well, you can also Chechens. Our beards love to shoot, so let these "fighters for democracy" hear the real ALAH AK BAR !!!!))))))
    Syria must be saved !!!! And I'm more than sure that almost the whole country thinks so.
  44. iSpoiler
    +1
    14 January 2013 11: 08
    But it seems to me that the Ministry of Defense is checking the readiness of the fleet ...
    Near the coast of Syria means near the coast of Syria, because it should be so ...
    We definitely won’t fight there .....
    IMHO .. !!
  45. +1
    14 January 2013 11: 12
    Well, how many of that landing do we have there? The battalion, probably with reinforcement means, maybe two, so there is no need to think about the participation of this landing in hostilities, however, even the political significance of such a step, if taken, is enormous, many Friends of Syria will ponder ...
  46. webdog
    +4
    14 January 2013 11: 23
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The United States can not do anything. They understand the language of power and nothing more.

    and here I absolutely agree with you.
    they are brought up so that they understand and recognize only power.
    if you make concessions to them, then this is considered a weakness with all the ensuing consequences.
    USSR they were considered VERY-VERY)))
    good examples were fresh in the memory of the Americans ...

    I think so.
  47. merkel1961
    +3
    14 January 2013 11: 40
    Of course, to the West, the hike of our ships to the Syrian shores is like a sickle below the waist! Let them go there to their wet pants! The main thing, and we can only guess a lot, is to fulfill the task that the Fleet has been assigned by the highest military-political leadership of Russia.
  48. Prishtina
    +2
    14 January 2013 11: 49
    Unfortunately, Russia, despite the positive changes in Vneshka, is similar in actions to a fireman who is fighting a fire ... and not the cause of the fire (Arsonists) ... We must break this trend, otherwise fires, incl. and our borders will still have a lot. Burning is always easier than putting out.
    Syria can be defended only by US methods, creating "tension" on the territory of an important US ally (Bahrain, Qatar, Arabia, the United Arab Emirates to choose from) ... Intra-tribal, religious, and clan differences in these Cancers are no less acute than in Syria .. .... You just need to work, and are not afraid to behave arrogantly and cynically.
    Moreover, to bring down the Gulf Monarchies, to wreak havoc on them, this directly answers strategic interests of Moscow.
    1. +1
      14 January 2013 11: 56
      You are missing one important point. By creating tension in the Middle East, we are creating problems primarily for ourselves. Russia is much closer to Bahrain, etc. And all this tension will be reflected first of all on us. And the United States as they sat overseas, and will sit. In this sense, their geographical location is very advantageous. And we are not yet able to compete with them directly, either in the economy or militarily.
  49. +2
    14 January 2013 11: 49
    Quote: atalef
    the question is, what next.

    But nothing! We will create fortified areas in key areas, we will stuff them with weapons, maybe we will leave some contingent well and leave a couple of patrolmen for a snack. And we will continue to send the "humanitarian" to the BDK. Let them get drunk with it to vomit,
  50. +1
    14 January 2013 11: 53
    Some countries still have a chance, so to speak, to change their orientation: go to the right side of the story... Turkey, for example, if it leaves the NATO bloc. Those who cannot, can only condole ... Alas, they did not "fit into the political market".
  51. Ivanushra
    +5
    14 January 2013 11: 57
    “The “progressive” press of the USA, Great Britain, and a number of Arab countries are full of headlines about Russia’s militarism and its attempts to put pressure on “the free people of Syria, who do not want to see dictator Assad at the head of their country.” At the same time, foreign publications hastened to declare that Russia is leading to Syria has such an impressive group of warships in order to evacuate Russian citizens from Syrian territory, after which it will certainly enter into a military operation against the so-called oppositionists." Why do they only see Russia and not NATO? After all, it was not Russia that bombed Libya and overthrew the ruling Gadaffi. Why doesn’t the world see Afghanistan and Iraq, where there is still no democracy, but only explosions of terrorist groups.
    1. SCS
      SCS
      0
      14 January 2013 12: 30
      You can call this a psychological war or a war in the information space)... For the most part, the media reveal to society a picture of the world around them, and it is the media that lays in the public consciousness “who is good and who is bad”!!! and it’s the Western “good” guys who have learned to do well...
    2. ksandr45
      +2
      14 January 2013 14: 03
      Isn’t it clear that if you tell us how much trouble NATO and the United States have brought to the world, the people of these countries will begin to ask the wrong questions to the government or, even worse, sympathize with Russia, which is trying to establish NORMAL relations with world countries.
    3. orfo
      0
      14 January 2013 15: 39
      as it turned out in vain, he kept the tribes in check. And now hemorrhoids have begun, so much so that the French have gotten into Mali.
  52. +1
    14 January 2013 12: 16
    Good day everyone! May I look a little further? For the time when Syria, with the support of Russia, will protect itself from foreign teachers and clear the country of gangsters (we believe in it!!). As a significant guarantor of non-repetition of the situation, the governments of the countries should make a decision on the creation in Syria of Russia of a full-fledged naval base, air force base and the infrastructure that will allow the deployment of a sufficient number of armed groups there. For the rent, I think we have already brought so many weapons there that we don’t have to worry. If it is necessary to pay rent in supplies for the Syrian army, the need will now be greater.
    Don't send four fleets there every time laughing
    1. 0
      14 January 2013 12: 39
      As a significant guarantor of non-repetition of the situation, the governments of the countries should make a decision on the creation by Russia of a full-fledged naval base in Syria,

      Assad will already decide this. Guarantees can be provided in different ways. Another option is to arm him well. Then Syria will become the guarantor of peace in most of the Middle East, and Israel and Turkey, as well as Qatar and the company, will fade a little from their ambitions.
      1. +2
        14 January 2013 12: 45
        Quote: Wedmak
        Assad will already decide this. Guarantees can be provided in different ways. Another option is to arm him well. Then Syria will become the guarantor of peace in most of the Middle East, and Israel and Turkey, as well as Qatar and the company, will fade a little from their ambitions.
        Israel and Türkiye will calm down. But the presumptuous Qatar and the UAE are unlikely!!! These, as the former current president of the Russian Federation says: we will extinguish them in the toilet! These assholes, who moved to luxury cars but remained SAVAGES, won’t understand any other way.
        1. +1
          14 January 2013 12: 51
          But the presumptuous Qatar and the UAE are unlikely!!!

          So, why did they go too far? By themselves, they represent little. The economy is 50% raw material-based, the armed forces have outdated weapons and are frankly small.
          They bark only because the US, their daddy, allows them to. But they forgot that the daddy is far away - this is one thing, and this daddy easily “ditches” his vassals/partners/colleagues/... as soon as they cease to be valuable to him - that’s two things. Three, four, etc. ... I think you can name it yourself. smile
          1. +1
            14 January 2013 13: 01
            Quote: Wedmak

            But the presumptuous Qatar and the UAE are unlikely!!!
            So, why did they go too far? By themselves, they represent little. The economy is 50% raw material-based, the armed forces have outdated weapons and are frankly small.
            They bark only because the US, their daddy, allows them to. But they forgot that the daddy is far away - this is one thing, and this daddy easily “ditches” his vassals/partners/colleagues/... as soon as they cease to be valuable to him - that’s two things. Three, four, etc. ... I think you can name it yourself.

            What do I want to say? There is such a nature of people: who yap from afar where they can’t give them pussy and also create meanness. At the moment, it is Qatar and the UAE that are the main financiers of these bearded men in Syria. This is the same as Bin Laden for America. First he worked against the USSR, and then staged a noisy PR campaign for the CIA in the USA. But now the United States has a reason to introduce democracy throughout the world. These two countries are so brainless that they are ready to stick their heads in a noose just to live beautifully. Therefore, I think they need to organize a color revolution in the territory and let them sip so that the flow of money goes in the other direction. Yes, we will bring the fire closer to us, but!!!!... a wise man said: KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE AND YOUR ENEMIES EVEN CLOSER!!!!
            1. +1
              14 January 2013 13: 08
              I don’t even know, on the one hand these are countries, I just spat and moved on, on the other hand, people still live there. Perhaps even their sheikhs are brainless and love chic more than the security of their own country... I think only one thing - we shouldn’t get involved in adventures with a military invasion just yet. But we must protect our interests.
              In my opinion, you just need to ignore their barking. Sooner or later they will either give up or realize that they were wrong.
      2. +1
        14 January 2013 20: 24
        Wedmak,
        Assad will already decide this. Guarantees can be provided in different ways. Another option is to arm him well.
        Guarantee guarantees are different. Promises and paper are not the most serious option. Arm? This means both learning and teaching. Without this, it’s like a monkey with a grenade. Those. advisor option. There are also many disadvantages: when and how they will teach; If they master one thing, an even more effective weapon will appear - retrain again; in the event of a serious mess involving a horde of banderlogs running around the country, the advisers themselves will need to be saved first; again, a minimum presence in the region... Only the constant presence of a powerful bridgehead in the form of military bases gives a preemptive impulse to the sphincter muscles if the brains of the “democratizers” are too late to think
  53. vel8421
    0
    14 January 2013 12: 16
    ours have finally come to life
  54. tolan777
    +1
    14 January 2013 12: 23
    Ty, but I think that one can not only suspect, but also accuse the West of trying to solve the situation in Syria by force)))
  55. SCS
    SCS
    +8
    14 January 2013 12: 37
    We came to know the world when there was no balancing force in it! and how much work this so-called one force has done over the past twenty-odd years! We are finally starting to regain lost ground!!! Personally, this article gave me a feeling of pride and faith in the great future of the country!!!!!!
  56. Kubanets
    +2
    14 January 2013 12: 46
    It’s time for Russia to stop talking to the NATO boor like a gentleman, using their own standards. Qatar suddenly imagines itself as a great regional power, causing internal problems for it. The Saudis don’t know what to do with the money? Shake up intrigue on the issue of succession to the throne. Yes, and take into account the leaders of the opposition in Syria. Have the Sudoplatovs and Eitingons really disappeared from Russian soil?
    1. 0
      14 January 2013 12: 58
      Why stoke an already sizable fire near our borders? And in Europe it’s not clear what’s going on.
      1. Kubanets
        0
        14 January 2013 15: 23
        They (the democratic community) are not afraid to light fires at our borders. Example-080808, a weakly smoldering fire in Ukraine, ashes in the Tribaltic. It’s time to respond adequately
        1. 0
          14 January 2013 15: 35
          Well, I didn’t say that there is no need to light such a fire on the North American continent... However, this is a vile thing, I don’t think it’s worth stooping to this level.
          1. Kubanets
            0
            14 January 2013 16: 07
            Or maybe it’s worth it (Max Eitingon)
  57. Atlon
    +1
    14 January 2013 13: 18
    The situation is somewhat reminiscent of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Remember how the Black Sea Fleet ships stood in the roadstead opposite Georgia? What is the point of such an action? And the fact is that, according to international standards, in peacetime, bringing warships of different countries closer together is IMPOSSIBLE. I don’t know all the subtleties (distances, actions, etc.), but I know what rapprochement is = declaration of war. That is, you can drown with a clear conscience. During the operation in Georgia, the approaches to the shore were blocked for NATO ships, there was a lot of squealing and screaming, but there was no sense! I think that something similar is happening now. It is possible to prepare for the Syrian “Kodori Gorge” and some radical actions. And our ships deny access to NATO forces during the Syrian army’s operation.
    1. 0
      14 January 2013 13: 55
      I’m not ready to argue about the “rapprochement”, but look on YouTube when our patrol ship crashes into an Amer frigate or someone else - it crashed seriously and it seems like nothing
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 13: 58
        The Americans then entered our territorial waters. So we got off easy. And the time was different - the USSR could wipe out any state from the face of the Earth and no one would have said a word.
      2. Atlon
        -1
        14 January 2013 14: 33
        Quote: bddrus
        I’m not ready to argue about the “rapprochement”, but look on YouTube when our patrol ship crashes into an Amer frigate or someone else - it crashed seriously and it seems like nothing

        That's not quite what you mean. There are “exchanges of experience,” joint “exercises,” “guest” visits, rescue operations, etc. But this is all discussed and agreed upon in advance. And sometimes there is COMBAT duty in neutral waters. This is something completely different! wink In this situation, the ships are in a state of “war”, with all that it implies. So they will sink, no talking!
        1. 0
          15 January 2013 15: 46
          you watch the video - there was combat duty there - they demolished half the deck for the amers
    2. 0
      14 January 2013 15: 17
      Quote: Atlon
      During the operation in Georgia, the approaches to the shore were blocked for NATO ships, there was a lot of squealing and screaming, but there was no sense!

      What a news! But in my opinion, Turkey did not allow them into the Black Sea!
  58. 0
    14 January 2013 13: 41
    What the hell is this landing in non-native waters? Or will they bring an inflatable beach with them? fool
    1. 0
      14 January 2013 13: 48
      here they seem to be hinting about Syria.
    2. SCS
      SCS
      0
      14 January 2013 13: 49
      but the text says nothing about the landing sites! So to speak, they left food for thought..))
    3. 0
      14 January 2013 13: 53
      Where do you think they plan to land the troops - in the water?
      1. Kubanets
        +1
        14 January 2013 16: 00
        I Understand It This Is Ogyz and that’s why FRIEND from Ukraine, let’s be friends
        1. +1
          15 January 2013 16: 06
          What is “Ogyzkhski” and why am I a “friend of Ukraine”? Is it possible that Siberia became part of the Square?
  59. airatt
    +2
    14 January 2013 14: 06
    they are doing the right thing!!! the militants who are fighting there are almost all illiterate and when they find out that the Russians will land troops on the shores of Syria and also launch artillery strikes from ships and even use helicopters, they will start to panic and they will start running in all directions here and there The Syrians will finally start shooting them!!! but they won’t have any help since Islamist militants are fighting in Mali and there are battles among themselves in Libya too!!! If only we gave the Tauregs weapons so that they could beat Islamists and Westerners in Mali and even in Libya so that they become more active, because now is the time to strike back since the mercenaries have left Libya, Mali, and Syria!!! in general, it’s time to start!!!!!!!!!!!
  60. Ivanushra
    +6
    14 January 2013 14: 13
    “Moreover, the Russian side now makes excellent use of Western methods of explaining the conduct of certain operations. In particular, the Russian Ministry of Defense states that the starting exercises of the Russian Navy ships are in no way connected with the events that are taking place on the territory of Syria. They say, it’s pure coincidence ... This position irritates the West even more. Well, so what? As they say, there was someone to learn from..."
    As part of my work, I often travel abroad and around the world to the ports of US and NATO warships, but why can’t we?
    1. Kubanets
      0
      15 January 2013 01: 07
      Plus Krasava
  61. wax
    +5
    14 January 2013 15: 36
    We are again carrying out an operation to enforce peace (external sponsors of the massacre in Syria and the developers of the ground invasion, the creation of a no-fly zone). This is enough, because The mercenaries cannot defeat Assad without creating a no-fly zone. And in Libya, rebels and mercenaries, traitors and terrorists would not have defeated Gaddafi without foreign intervention (unfortunately, sanctioned by us due to the narrow-mindedness of the President). Turkey will soon get tired of these "refugee" camps. Moreover, she risks that some of these profit-seekers with weapons in their hands, if the plan to overthrow Assad fails, will remain filibustering in Turkey itself. The West is not ready to face Russia in a local military conflict, but we are showing that we are ready, but only in the event of unauthorized military intervention by NATO countries. In this case, based on the same Art. 51 of the UN Charter, we will defend our base, naturally not within its perimeter. Syria, obviously, will not write notes and appeal to the UN regarding the violation of its air and ground space by Russian troops. The "Great Game of Chess" is not yet at its endgame.
    1. +3
      14 January 2013 17: 26
      Quote: Wax
      The "Great Game of Chess" is not yet at the endgame.

      I have already expressed my opinion on this matter. I repeat: If Russia or China gives Iran a dozen warheads, then there will be no Qatar, there will be no Saudi Arabia (and at the same time there will be no problems in the Caucasus), there will be no Israel (lies in the world there will be fewer competitors in the arms market). Oil prices will soar, and without Middle Eastern oil the West will not be able to wage a serious war (well, perhaps only in an alliance with Russia or Venezuela smile ), Russia will receive both time and funds for rearmament... And in general, Russia will no longer have another chance to solve the problem with someone else’s hands.
      It is impossible to win a war or a game by always defending, but now there is a real chance to checkmate the West (at least in this game).
    2. Kubanets
      +2
      14 January 2013 19: 15
      I completely agree with Vaksa Guys, at least some inaction of the Russian Armed Forces
  62. +3
    14 January 2013 15: 37
    Well, “Putin’s clawed paw” is Putin’s clawed paw, personally we are FOR it! In my opinion, it’s time to let someone sniff the master’s boot, otherwise they’re starting to bloom. If we shoot “accidentally” at someone’s positions, and then deny everything, then it’s generally good. And, by chance, troops can be landed after missile, artillery and air preparation. And then turn innocent eyes and say that they started it, and we were only defending ourselves. In general, Vladimir Vladimirovich, it’s time to show your clawed paw. And I wouldn’t pay attention to the smart guys inside the country, let them moan, maybe their groans will make someone in the West feel better.
    1. 0
      14 January 2013 16: 16
      WE CAN ALSO HAVE ANTI-TIRRORIST TEACHINGS, THEY ARE NOT ALONE TO FIGHT TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .
    2. Kubanets
      0
      14 January 2013 19: 17
      Does anyone have such claws?
  63. 0
    14 January 2013 16: 13
    COME ON SYRIA, NAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET'S SHOW US WHERE THEY FIGHT CANCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WE ALSO MAY HAVE ANTI-TERRORIST EXERCISES, OR THEY (EXERCISES), ONLY THEY CAN HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? ??
  64. 0
    14 January 2013 16: 21
    But it would be nice if the Chinese would bring their fleet there and conduct joint Russian-Chinese exercises, and maybe an operation “to force peace” on the militants of the so-called “Syrian Free Army.”
    1. Denzel13
      +3
      14 January 2013 16: 39
      It would be funny - the PRC sent a “limited” contingent of 1-2 million to the exercises laughing
  65. StrateG
    +2
    14 January 2013 16: 30
    baku1999,sorry what? Are they fighting with cancer? fool No, we don't need that. Let the Americans fight with cancer.
  66. 0
    14 January 2013 16: 43
    It would be better to deploy a dozen S-300s and help the Syrians themselves create a “no-fly zone” over the entire region. Shoot down everything visible and invisible, with the exception of civil aviation.
    1. +2
      14 January 2013 17: 07
      They now need specialists in the fight against terrorism and militants more. And we have plenty of them after Chechnya. Moreover, it would not hurt to strengthen the borders, block the channels from which all sorts of trash creeps in and weapons are supplied.
  67. Anthrax
    -12
    14 January 2013 17: 22
    And who would send his son to kill or risk his life in a war so that the dictator Assad would continue to tyrannize his people and inherit the power received from his father?
    1. +4
      14 January 2013 19: 53
      Quote: ANTHRAX
      And who would send his son to kill or risk his life in a war so that the dictator Assad would continue to tyrannize his people and inherit the power received from his father?


      And the fact that there are more than 100 thousand. our citizens, whom the Islamists and bandits will slaughter in the first place, do not care about this. This is why the state and the army exist. This is why our ships and paratroopers are there to protect and evacuate them in case of danger.
  68. Russian sniper
    0
    14 January 2013 17: 29
    Russia will continue to support Bashar al-Assad. good But for us to go and fight in Syria is complete nonsense, and there will be no landing there, I assure you. Think for yourself, colleagues, a large-scale military operation requires large investments of money and manpower. stop Of course, I feel more sorry for our soldiers, although I have no doubt about their strength and training. hi The landing will most likely take place at one of the training grounds in the North Caucasus, and all this is intended to send a specific signal to our potential friends. bully
  69. +2
    14 January 2013 17: 37
    Holy shit, I pissed myself. There are no limits to the arrogance of the West. even our bureaucrats have not yet reached such a degree of rudeness
    1. +2
      14 January 2013 18: 30
      What the fleet is doing in Syria is important and Assad must be supported openly, our infantry should not be in Syria, volunteer instructors please, weapons please. Assad has enough of his own infantry, but the guards of the Islamic Revolution, the Kurdish rebels, will not help.
  70. Mr.Fox
    +2
    14 January 2013 18: 03
    The whole world has long “suspected” the West of its bad habit of resolving all issues in this way...
  71. Quiet
    +7
    14 January 2013 18: 17
    West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force

    Russia has modestly kept silent about the fact that it has long suspected the elite of the West of homosexuality and sadomochism..... wassat
  72. +2
    14 January 2013 18: 55
    Syria cannot be given to the amers and NATO members

    Syria cannot be given to the amers and NATO members
    1. +2
      14 January 2013 21: 56
      Loudly said. There's even an ECHO...
  73. denn
    +2
    14 January 2013 18: 55
    I think their hypocrisy can simply be ignored without commenting. Everything has been clear with them for a long time and you can’t expect anything else from them.
  74. +2
    14 January 2013 18: 56
    Syria cannot be given away
  75. +2
    14 January 2013 19: 12
    And in Mali, the French are bombing under the wording from the words of the president: ... help to a government friendly to us, mind you, not the people, but the government. We want to help our friendly people from bandits of all stripes, fed and incited by “all progressive democratic countries.” America and all its “shepherd dogs” on a leash have lived since the time of Roosevelt by the principle: ... the worse it is for them, the better it is for us.
  76. iulai
    +2
    14 January 2013 19: 34
    France calmly entered Mali, and Russia can calmly enter Syria! Volodya! follow the example of comrade Stalin, do not give up Syria! Happy new and old year!
  77. DmitriRazumov
    +2
    14 January 2013 19: 45
    “But the very fact of conducting naval exercises in close proximity to the territory of the country, around which there is so much talk today, obviously can play a role in increasing Russia’s prestige in the global geopolitical sense.”
    It is possible, in the event of an aggravation of the situation, for example, the appearance of NATO aircraft near the borders of Syria, to target them with our naval air defense systems. Messages in the cockpit about his capture by an enemy air defense system are sobering.
  78. patriot2
    +4
    14 January 2013 19: 58
    God help our sailors off the coast of Syria!
    The West apparently decided that the USSR collapsed and Russia is nothing in the military field: they are rewriting the history of the Second World War and blaming Russia for its aggressiveness.
    Here, take a bite! We have walked the seas and oceans and will continue to walk, we are friends with Syria and we will be friends and help!
  79. +1
    14 January 2013 20: 48
    And what, after missile and bomb training, they will land on the shores of Syria and clear the territory of militants. On the one hand there are Russian special forces, on the other there are troops of the legitimate government of Syria. And there will be peace and friendshipdrinks
  80. +2
    14 January 2013 20: 49
    Great news! Well written article.
  81. karimbaev
    +1
    14 January 2013 21: 18
    Yes, and we need to show everyone in the West “Kuzka’s MOTHER”, I hope they won’t abandon their allies?
  82. 0
    14 January 2013 21: 28
    And if so? There is nothing wrong with this.
  83. +1
    14 January 2013 21: 33
    Well, if realistically, up to 10 helicopters, well, Assad had more of them... so far it doesn’t help, putting Marines in a city or desert is in vain... also not an option, there is no aviation..
    All that remains is 1 - bring some kind of weapon secretly, well, go somewhere... it’s like chasing a fly with a club...
    2-cover something with ship’s air defense
    3-political motives...
    I don’t believe our compatriots about the evacuation. They won’t reach Tartus, the hunt for them has already begun ((
    The conclusion is that this is all a Great Game of Nerves. But Syria cannot be given up!!!!
  84. azlok
    +1
    14 January 2013 21: 58
    France has been delaying the deployment of troops to Mali for a year. Now we have decided.
    This was rather due to the fact that they assumed their participation in Syria, but it never came together.

    The Turks are carefully watching the passage of our soldiers:
    http://youtu.be/UzMXIo4Lli4
  85. +1
    14 January 2013 22: 43
    "The objective...is not to invade...and militarily support one of the parties to the armed conflict"

    “so that the so-called world community does not suddenly have illusions” -

    Something not very specific, because if an invasion is categorically unrealistic, then who will even pay attention to our military presence? There is an inconsistency. Someone is lying.
  86. Bob
    +1
    14 January 2013 23: 24
    1. The naval exercises announced by Russia in the place of the exercises (Syria) and the time of the exercises (the West pulling up to the borders of Syria in Jordan (special forces forces) in Turkey (offensive-defensive air defense systems "Patriot")) are NOT RANDOM, but LEGAL.
    2. With the arrival of Russia in Syria, the war in the latter may receive a NEW SCENARIO.
    As for the old scenario, everything is more or less clear - this is the West’s policy towards the Middle Eastern state, following the example of Iraq, Libya (variations are possible, but the essence is the same - the destruction of the state, the murder of its leaders, the imposition of its crap standards).
    A NEW SCENARIO, in which only the goals are clear - to prevent the Western takeover of the country. And in this scenario there are a lot of questions regarding how to achieve these goals.
    You can consider, for example, the following options
    - regrouping and rearmament of the existing forces and means of the Syrian army to organize a full-scale attack on militant positions - this is a kind of offensive operation
    - the evacuation of elite units (including the country’s top leadership), their organization with their subsequent inclusion in a broad front for the liberation of Syria from occupation (which the Libyan fighters against Islamist fundamentalists are now so lacking) is a kind of defensive operation.
    Personally, I put a 40/60 probability of implementing each of the options in favor of a defensive operation. As you know, defense is only a temporary means, which in the future should help in winning victory. I will explain the reasons for my “choice”
    - the spread of the conflict to an increasingly larger territory of Syria
    - thorough destruction of the infrastructure of Syria (cities, roads, communications, etc.) which does not allow successful military operations (footage on TV yesterday could be compared with the Battle of Stalingrad in city neighborhoods)
    - the increasing onslaught of Islamist militants-mercenaries with a simultaneous qualitative improvement in the composition of the military means used (anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles)
    - the growing “fatigue” of the Syrian army forces in the armed confrontation, which occurs with virtually no respite.
  87. Spstas1
    +2
    14 January 2013 23: 36
    That's exactly what no one pays attention to. More precisely, he doesn’t want to. After all, with such difficulty they got rid of the Soviet Navy, and finally breathed freely on you... Again. I remember the surprise with which they perceived the fact of the quick discovery of a captured ship with Russian cargo off the Cape Verde Islands. Somehow, not only the discovery, but also the appearance of the Russian ship and the operation to free the captured ship happened quite quickly. It was nice to see footage of how representatives of local authorities, somewhat taken aback by what they saw, watched the bandits being transported by Russian marines.
    The main thing is political will and, of course, an operation thought out in every detail.
    On the other hand, how long can you conduct exercises on your own, long-developed territory? It's time to explore other springboards for diversity and broadening your horizons :))
  88. +2
    14 January 2013 23: 37
    West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force
    Why did it happen ?
  89. Anthrax
    -7
    14 January 2013 23: 45
    Assad's army of 300 thousand has not been able to cope with a bunch of foreign mercenaries for a year and a half?
    Moreover, the army has aviation, tanks and artillery!
    And what if we add special services?
    Brad!
    But the rebels control entire cities and regions!
    How can you believe the nonsense that our media spreads?
    The people (80% of the population of Syria are Muslims) rebelled against the Alawite regime of hereditary President Assad (there are 10% Alawites in Syria, but almost all the military and security forces are Alawites)
    But it’s not easy to cope with people.
    Even if I am proud to turn it into ruins by bombing
    1. Misantrop
      +2
      14 January 2013 23: 58
      Quote: ANTHRAX
      Assad's army of 300 thousand has not been able to cope with a bunch of foreign mercenaries for a year and a half?
      Moreover, the army has aviation, tanks and artillery!
      And what if we add special services?
      Brad!

      How old are you, small, poor and intimidated? americana the army fought al-Qaeda? And the same poor and small number of US intelligence services never helped her... laughing
      1. +1
        15 January 2013 00: 01
        Quote: ANTHRAX
        The people (80% of the population of Syria are Muslims) rebelled against the Alawite regime of hereditary President Assad (there are 10% Alawites in Syria, but almost all the military and security forces are Alawites)

        It should be noted that the opposition, incl. radical, does not have a decisive influence in the SAR. In general, it is supported by no more than 40% of local residents, among whom only some express sympathy for the Islamic movement “Muslim Brotherhood”. The latter has never had influence throughout the country, where, in addition to Sunni Muslims, Alawites, Shiites, Christians and Druze live. Its national composition is also heterogeneous. In addition to the Syrian Arabs, Kurds, Armenians, Circassians and Turkmens are settled here. There are also about 1 million Iraqi and 400 thousand Palestinian refugees in the Syrian Arab Republic.
      2. Anthrax
        -1
        15 January 2013 15: 02
        Can you find out which cities in Afghanistan are controlled by al-Qaeda?
        What areas of Kabul?
        Where is al-Qaeda in Afghanistan?
        The Taliban are still making noise here and there, but they once conquered almost all of Afghanistan from the Mujahideen.
        Likewise, the Taliban do not control a single city.
        Yes, compared to Assad’s 300 thousand army, the ISAF contingent is much smaller
    2. +4
      15 January 2013 01: 08
      Quote: ANTHRAX
      The people (80% of the population of Syria are Muslims) rebelled against the Alawite regime of hereditary President Assad (there are 10% Alawites in Syria, but almost all the military and security forces are Alawites)

      Hmm. There are a lot of African Americans in the US security forces, and the US financial system is run by Jews... Who do you think the ordinary American people should start fighting with? laughing Yes, and also - compare the daily number of deaths in warring Syria with the number of those killed in peaceful New York... Isn’t it time for the world community to clean up New York?
      1. Anthrax
        -1
        15 January 2013 09: 43
        Quote: Arkan
        Hmm. There are a lot of African Americans in the US security forces, and the US financial system is run by Jews... Who do you think the ordinary American people should start fighting with? laughing Yes, and one more thing - compare the daily number of deaths in warring Syria with the number of those killed in peaceful New York... Isn’t it time for the international community to clean up New York?


        Are there almost 100% African Americans in the US security forces and government?
        And in Muslim Syria, 10% of the Alawite population is almost 100% of the security forces and government agencies.
        Don't read Soviet newspapers.
        In peaceful New York, there are several times fewer murders than in peaceful Moscow.
        Monday November 28, 2012 will go down in modern New York history as the day when not a single violent crime was committed in the largest metropolis in the United States. This was announced on Wednesday by Deputy Commissioner of Local Police Paul Brown.

        “On this day, our officers did not record a single murder, rape, robbery or a single case of stabbing. This happened for the first time in the modern history of the New York Police,” ITAR-TASS quotes the law enforcement officer as saying.

        http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_11_29/Nju-Jork-prozhil-den-bez-nasilija/
        “The number of murders has decreased by 23 percent compared to last year and currently stands at 366 cases, compared to 472 in 2011,” the police officer said.

        Moscow, with a population of 10,4 million and a murder rate of 9,6 per 100 residents per year, earned the fifth place in Foreign Policy magazine's list of the most dangerous cities in the world.

        Of course, Moscow with its 9 murders per 100 people is far from Caracas and Cape Town, the authors of the publication write. However, the Russian capital, according to the compilers of the rating, has left far behind the main cities of most criminal European states. For example, in London, Paris, Rome and Madrid there are only two murders per 000 inhabitants per year (according to 100 data).

        http://www.rb.ru/article/moskva-voshla-v-pyaterku-mirovyh-liderov-po-kolichestvu
        -ubiystv/5445567.html
    3. orfo
      +2
      15 January 2013 03: 47
      if our media is propaganda, I don’t know, watch some episodes of SNN
      http://ru.hezy.net/video/57825/syria-cnn-interview-with-saa-271212/
      Sometimes there are enlightenments, or their English colleagues.
      It’s easy to say that crimes are committed by government troops when you interview a terrorist, let’s not forget what kind of “opposition” the Syrian government has.
      Who massacred the Alawites in Hama, Assad or the FSA?

      January 2, holding...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=khPtDluGKMs
  90. s1н7т
    -3
    14 January 2013 23: 52
    Perhaps the goal is to prevent a “no-fly zone” from being declared. But we have little strength to resist. Will China join? Then yes.
  91. WW3
    WW3
    +8
    15 January 2013 04: 35
    The West suspected that Russia... is moving to diplomacy of force.... Hilary Clinton said Russia and China will pay for holding back the progress of "democracy" in Syria, now when they retire they will apparently regret their words... Don't wake the beast in the awakened bear wink
  92. +1
    15 January 2013 11: 37
    that's right. I am very pleased with this tactic of explaining the holding of certain events, borrowed by our Western “friends and partners.”
    I also propose that the Defense Ministry purchase a couple of hundred blacks from Somalia (or take them prisoner) and in the area where it is necessary to conduct a military operation or exercise, release a couple of dozen in boats or inflatable rings. well, and then to the Gulf of Mexico for complete confidence and to save the long-suffering pin*stan from genocide by African-Americans!

    (this post has nothing to do with racism)
  93. -1
    15 January 2013 15: 06
    It’s just that the time has come for our General Staff to develop and carry out such an operation to block the sea channel for supplying bandits with weapons in Syria! And without weapons and ammunition, the bandits will go in droves, some to surrender and some to break through the border or simply flee from Syria...And this is a complete victory of the people of Syria over the international bandits and their patrons!
    1. stahanovec25
      +2
      15 January 2013 18: 05
      "sea channel for supplying bandits with weapons" - "rukalitso". What kind of sea supply channel? where are they unloaded? in which port? winked weapons are supplied to slippers through Turkey. some from Lebanon.
  94. ken
    +1
    15 January 2013 18: 00
    There's nothing wrong with that. Let the Navy train. But the West will understand that it is impossible to lower Russia!
  95. SA23WSGFG
    -1
    15 January 2013 18: 54
    Have you heard the news? The Russian authorities are already insolent in the end. They made this database

    where you can find information about any resident of the Baltic countries.
    really was very surprised
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos are different
    character) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...

    http://nutshellurl.com/5yu1

    http://guardlink.org/TzDyl1
  96. SA23WSGFG
    0
    15 January 2013 19: 22
    Have you heard the news? The Russian authorities are already insolent in the end. They made this database
    http://guardlink.org/4wQyl1
    where you can find information about any resident of the Baltic countries.
    really was very surprised
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos are different
    character) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...

    Have you heard the news? The Russian authorities are already insolent in the end. They made this database
    http://guardlink.org/4wQyl1
    where you can find information about any resident of the Baltic countries.
    really was very surprised
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos are different
    character) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...
  97. +1
    15 January 2013 21: 56
    Yes, yes, but who are the judges?
    Another example of double standards
  98. phantom359
    +1
    16 January 2013 02: 22
    Tell the West to fuck off more often and everything will be fine. They only understand power.
  99. 0
    16 January 2013 03: 06
    I hope that “Putin’s paw” will turn out to be so “clawed” that the fleet will hook a couple of bandit groups in Syria.
  100. 0
    16 January 2013 21: 35
    Yes, in fact, it’s high time to show the world that Russia is ready to defend its geopolitical interests, and these exercises confirm this in the best possible way. We just need to make this permanent and systematic.

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