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West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force

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Large-scale exercises in which the ships of the United Inter-Navy Naval Group will participate fleet RF begin in the eastern Mediterranean. According to information from the General Staff of the Russian Federation, ships and personnel of several Russian fleets will be involved in the exercises at once. Initially, it was talked about involving the ships of the Black Sea, Northern and Baltic Fleets, but then information came that the Pacific Fleet’s naval vessels could take part in the exercises. Maneuvers, according to official information, promise to be truly grandiose.



One of the main components of the exercises of the combined group will be the solution of tasks for disembarking amphibious units at several points, as well as tactics for quick loading of personnel and special equipment on board amphibious ships from those places where paratroopers and marines performed their tasks.

In addition to performing landing operations during the exercises, it is planned to implement a phased anti-submarine defense, in which naval aviation - Ka-27 helicopters. Obviously, in the course of the exercises, anti-submarine defense may turn out to be not only part of the general scenario of the exercises, but also a well-known need, because the interest in what Russia is going to do in the Mediterranean waters in the West is simply huge and, so to speak, clearly not healthy. However, more on that later. For now, let us return to what other operations the Russian sailors will perform in January during the maneuvers under consideration.

Such operations will include shipboard artillery firing at targets located both at sea and on land. Attacks on ground targets are planned to be carried out as part of the operation of covering the landing and reverse loading of the landing force. It was entrusted to execute artillery strikes to several ships, including the sentry to “Yaroslav the Wise” (Baltic Fleet) and “Smetlivy” (Black Sea Fleet), RK “Moscow” (flagship of the Black Sea Fleet), and also to the anti-submarine ship Severomorsk (Northern Fleet) . The landing operations themselves will be carried out from the ships Saratov and Novocherkassk (the Black Sea Fleet), Alexander Shabalin and Kaliningrad (both are Baltic Fleet).

During the naval exercises, it is planned to work out training actions related to towing emergency vessels, countering pirate groups in the Gulf of Aden (in particular, to counter attacks of small vessels). Despite the fact that according to media reports, the main Somali filibuster, which is called the Big Mouth in Mogadishu, announced his retirement from the piracy business and the transition to big politics, this is unlikely to result in complete pacification in the waters of the Gulf of Aden. ... Yes, and in the world's oceans today, not only pirates from Somalia are operating. That is why the development of action plans to repel pirate attacks did not ignore the Russian sailors.

However, the real, let's say, the highlight of all planned exercises in the Mediterranean, will be combat maneuvering off the Syrian coast. The inter-fleet grouping of Russian ships headed by the missile cruiser “Moscow” will work out operational-tactical actions in the immediate vicinity of Syria. Moreover, there is information that several Russian ships are scheduled to call at once to the logistics base of the Russian Navy in the port of Tartus (Syria).

It was the Russian-planned maneuvers of naval ships off the coast of Syria that entered Tartus became the object of incessant criticism from the West. A number of Western news agencies filed news about the upcoming exercises of Russian ships in the eastern Mediterranean as an attempt by Moscow to solve the Syrian issue by outside intervention by force.

The “progressive” press of the United States, Great Britain, and a number of Arab countries was full of headlines about Russian militarism and its attempts to put pressure on “the free people of Syria, who do not wish to see the dictator Assad at the head of their country.” At the same time, foreign publications were quick to say that Russia brings such an impressive grouping of its warships to Syria in order to evacuate Russian citizens from Syrian territory, after which it will certainly enter into a military operation against the so-called oppositionists.

Why are there Western publications ... We also have our own “soothsayers” in a number of media outlets that echo their foreign colleagues, saying that Moscow is worried that more and more new groups of servicemen of the Syrian regular army are switching to the Syrian “rebels” . Like, it was precisely this that gave Putin a reason (as without him) to immediately order a change in the situation in Syria purely in an anti-democratic direction.

For obvious reasons, when phrases like “bloody Assad’s regime” appear in media reports, “Putin is ready to support Assad” and “military invasion of Syria by Russia”, then especially impressionable readers (especially in the West) again begin to show anti-Russian sentiment. Now, if the exercises were carried out by the ships of the American fleets, it would be a different matter - just exercises and nothing more ... But as soon as it comes to Russia, I immediately think that “Putin’s clawed paw” and everything like that.

However, in fairness, it must be said that especially impressionable readers, who believe that true proponents of the democratic system are fighting with Assad in Syria, and not diversified militant groups, are even less in the West. People, despite ongoing information pressure, have recently managed to understand that not every military operation that is imposed by the NATO countries is one that can lead a certain country to democratic prosperity. The ongoing civil war in the country of the “victorious democracy” of Libya, as well as Egypt, where the new “democratic” president managed to rouse full power for themselves, are vivid examples of what military intervention and blind support for one of the parties from the outside leads to.

Obviously, many western politicians have now decided to use the factor of Russia's growing military power to amend their shaken image. Now, any military educational initiative of the Russian Federation outside its territorial and aquatic limits will be presented by certain foreign media as an attempt by Russia to solve its tasks by military means.

Of course, with a special desire, Moscow could use the formed naval grouping to "resolve the Syrian issue," but our country has enough bloody experience of participating in dubious foreign operations. Russia's task in conducting large-scale exercises in the eastern region of the Mediterranean Sea is not to invade the territory of this country and militarily support one of the parties to the armed conflict, but that the so-called world community suddenly had no illusions that There is only one country in the world that can promote its interests.

The negative experience of the Libyan “abstinence” on the part of Russia, obviously, will not be repeated, because today each of us can perfectly see what an attempt is being made to close our eyes to painful geopolitical issues. But Russia also does not intend to get involved in the Syrian prolonged conflict, risking the lives of its own citizens.

But the very fact of conducting naval exercises in the immediate vicinity of the territory of the country around which there are so many conversations today can obviously play to increase Russia's prestige in global geopolitical terms. When someone suddenly has a strong desire to solve the issue in Syria in the same way as it was resolved in Libya (the installation of the Patriot air defense system in Turkey is an example), then let these people remember the presence of another force capable of becoming an impressive counterweight. The very presence of Russian warships off the coast of Syria can cool even the hottest heads who recently believed in their infallibility and invulnerability.

Moreover, the Russian side is now well using the Western method of explaining the conduct of certain operations. In particular, the Ministry of Defense of Russia declares that the launch exercises of the ships of the Russian Navy are in no way connected with the events that take place in Syria. Like, pure coincidence ... This position is even more annoying to the West. So what? As they say, it was from whom to learn ...
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  1. Dmitriy69
    Dmitriy69 14 January 2013 07: 18
    +97
    And even so.
    They can, but not others?
    After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 14 January 2013 07: 28
      +52
      You are absolutely right.
      State Depot mongrel barking hi ... as the people say, a dog barks and wears wind.
      Their lot is to yap and expose their backsides with wagging, and the fact that someone may have a different position and weighty arguments in the form of thermonuclear and other demotivators, gentlemen, the impudent Saxon shit democrats have forgotten. Nothing, now they are restoring this memory, it is a pity that it is not too fast, but they are restoring it, and this is the main thing.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 January 2013 08: 07
        +26
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        State Depot mumble high.

        Interestingly, the situation in foreign media is reminiscent of 08 08 08, when everyone was lazy to spit in Russia, but could not do anything. Even if there is a landing on the coast of Syria, the United States can not do anything. They understand the language of power and nothing more.
        I would like to add Kuznetsov there, having pre-loaded Ka 52 and Sushki, then everything was much more serious. As long as there is not enough support for aviation.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 14 January 2013 08: 59
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Even if there is a landing on the coast of Syria, the United States can not do anything.

          Totally agree!
          It’s just that even from this article it’s not clear where the landing will be according to the plan of studies?
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 January 2013 09: 03
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            It’s just that even from this article it’s not clear where the landing will be according to the plan of studies?

            Alibek, good morning !!!
            I think it will land, because this generally suits everyone (including Assad, especially). But the question is whether the land will land or not, the question is, what next? How long will the squadron stay there and will the Russian Armed Forces take part in the hostilities. Your opinion. Sincerely, Alexander.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 14 January 2013 09: 12
              +6
              Quote: atalef
              I think it will land, because it generally suits everyone

              Do you think the United States is happy with this? laughing
              1. atalef
                atalef 14 January 2013 09: 22
                +18
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Do you think the United States is happy with this?

                And what does the United States have to do with this? It suits Russia and Syria. After all, the game goes according to the scheme Syria -Russia -Iran vs Saudi Arabia-Qatar-Turkey -Europe _USA.
                Russia does not need the permission of the States and play on the nerves, of course, try. therefore, it is not a question of what will land, a question of what is next. The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.
                What would not work - Matrosit and threw laughing
                1. Wedmak
                  Wedmak 14 January 2013 09: 26
                  +1
                  The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.

                  What scare them? They already run like rats in holes.
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 14 January 2013 09: 33
                  +21
                  Quote: atalef
                  The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.

                  Here Sasha doesn’t agree a bit with you !!
                  The fact is that this will scare sponsors !!
                  The fact is that in the West, many consider Russia an unpredictable country and, in the case of even a military landing, Russia will show the world that Assad supports it not in words and is ready not in words but in this matter to render all possible assistance to her ally !!
                  1. Skiff
                    Skiff 14 January 2013 12: 42
                    +8
                    Yes, I think that they are not only for the purpose of training there, they will probably throw useful weapons and equipment, they just cleaned ours there.
                    1. Prokop
                      Prokop 14 January 2013 16: 21
                      +3
                      Your words, yes, Putin’s ears! And at the same time, at least a little about financing the internal opposition of all the Cathars with Saudi Arabia!
                      1. Zabvo
                        Zabvo 14 January 2013 17: 26
                        +9
                        Listen, here's someone, and Putin knows what he's doing. Putin is also the Joker. "
                      2. crazyrom
                        crazyrom 14 January 2013 20: 45
                        0
                        Scared reptiles. It turns out that not only they can solve something by force.
                      3. s1н7т
                        s1н7т 14 January 2013 22: 13
                        -2
                        Quote: ZABVO
                        someone who, and Putin knows what he's doing. Putin

                        Nobody argues with this. Still, it would have to do with the prosperity of the country and ordinary citizens. But while he is not noticed in this, alas.
                      4. aleksandroff
                        aleksandroff 15 January 2013 00: 29
                        +8
                        for some reason, some eyes are still closed. I, and many noticed what he did and has been doing since the zero years. it’s necessary to work and not to swamp around and listen to the morons.
                      5. Korzhik_77
                        Korzhik_77 15 January 2013 08: 11
                        +1
                        aleksandroff
                        for some reason, some eyes are still closed. I, and many noticed what he did and has been doing since the zero years. it’s necessary to work and not to swamp around and listen to the morons.


                        I absolutely agree with you, but work is still not an edge
                      6. evgenm55
                        evgenm55 15 January 2013 06: 30
                        +2
                        I totally agree.
                      7. Strezhevchanin
                        Strezhevchanin 15 January 2013 19: 51
                        0
                        Prokop,
                        I’m not surprised, here with some airplane they almost didn’t go out for a shit, but here forgive the tonnage it will be more hi
                    2. alexng
                      alexng 14 January 2013 16: 23
                      +3
                      It is not possible to simply deliver the necessary and effective weapons to Syria in other ways, I think the exercises are just a cover for deliveries of surprises for the arrogant NATO and their henchmen.
                      1. saturn.mmm
                        saturn.mmm 14 January 2013 17: 22
                        +11
                        Quote: alexneg
                        Simply delivering the necessary and effective weapons to Syria in other ways is not possible

                        And why the French of Mali can be bombed and no one is asked.
                        And here so many different reasons are invented, the national interests of the Russian Federation are affected, and it is located on its military base and, if necessary, will conduct military operations, it will be more convincing for everyone.
                      2. dmitreach
                        dmitreach 14 January 2013 21: 06
                        +12
                        And if so? bully
                        Simply delivering the necessary and effective weapons to Syria in other ways is not possible
                      3. Cadet787
                        Cadet787 17 January 2013 19: 18
                        0
                        To bring down all forces on the Kator mongrel, so that the rest of the mongrels would not be habituated.
                    3. Quiet
                      Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 04
                      +2
                      In-in !! And the adversaries now have the very first task - to capture our weapons and carefully study them (who is interested in allowing them ..) angry
                    4. Bashkaus
                      Bashkaus 14 January 2013 20: 29
                      +10
                      yeah, and after 2 weeks it will be revealed that during the drill ... the marines forgot on the shore the S300 air defense systems acquired by hard work acquired by 2 divisions, the Iskander battery one piece ... Naturally, the commanders guilty of this will lose a quarterly bonus)))
                  2. Quiet
                    Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 00
                    +4
                    It's a pity late with Yugoslavia (or were they in a hurry?)
                    1. alexng
                      alexng 14 January 2013 19: 23
                      +6
                      With Yugoslavia, they themselves were not yet ready. At that time, Russia would simply have been spread and internal traitors would have helped in this. Remember who was in power then.
                    2. alexdol
                      alexdol 14 January 2013 20: 18
                      +1
                      Quiet RU "It's a pity Yugoslavia was late (or were they in a hurry?)"
                      ---------------------------------------------------------
                      A very small clarification: they were not late, but simply HAVE DELIVERED, as well as Iraq and Libya !!!
                  3. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 14 January 2013 20: 17
                    +5
                    Yarbay hi

                    Quote: Yarbay
                    The fact is that in the West, many consider Russia an unpredictable country
                    wink
                  4. Markel
                    Markel 15 January 2013 17: 24
                    +1
                    I agree completely. Such effective steps must be taken as much as possible! So that everyone knows what Russia is! I even agree for the sake of this to an income tax of 18%))))
                  5. Neringa285
                    Neringa285 21 January 2013 00: 39
                    0
                    This will scare sponsors and those who want to lay a gas pipeline from Qatar through Syria .. well and throw Russia out of the European gas market ... we will have time to concentrate, as Chancellor Gorchakov said.)))
                3. klev72
                  klev72 14 January 2013 10: 06
                  +8
                  atalef The landing (training) of the militants is not intimidating.

                  I would like to believe that the landing ships are carrying not only the infantry, but also "humanitarian aid" to the fighting people of Syria. Those who fight you yourself know what is necessary first of all.
                  1. biglow
                    biglow 14 January 2013 20: 24
                    +8
                    klev72,
                    Many ships left Sevastopol with a clear overload, and not all went to Novorossiysk for an amphibious landing. Therefore, it’s clear that they’ll be transported to Syria
                4. Bashkaus
                  Bashkaus 14 January 2013 20: 26
                  +4
                  Why scare them, these militants then? The whole world has already culturally announced "The square is closed, military exercises are underway with the use of military equipment, all unnecessary evacuate from the area!" 90% of the fighters for demography are illegally in Syria, let them go for minced meat to the feni and pretend that nothing happened ... And if especially clever European rats start yapping like mountains of corpses, etc. then immediately in the information counterattack "we don't know anything, and just how they got there, and not even citizens of Syria, because everyone was warned two weeks in advance, the locals are all registered" And just in general, even if someone was irritated, it was just an accident , well, like at a construction site next to the inscription "do not stand under the arrow" Apologies to my family and friends, I am even ready to bring a couple of carnations to the embassy of the murdered.
                  1. urchub
                    urchub 14 January 2013 22: 24
                    +1
                    or maybe it's easier for the main players to go to Mali and Russia said your Syria. How do you like it? Turks in love with both the states and the euro need to be blocked, though not now, but all the same, and Qatar is the fiefdom of the states We won’t go there and the states will reformat it anyway (a matter of time)
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 14 January 2013 09: 28
              +7
              Quote: atalef
              I think it will land, because this generally suits everyone (including Assad, especially). But the question is whether the land will land or not, the question is, what next? How long will the squadron stay there and will the Russian Armed Forces take part in the hostilities. Your opinion. Sincerely, Alexander.

              Hi Sasha!
              My opinion is that the ships will be there for a long time, but I think it’s impossible at this stage to accept Russia's participation in this war !!
              I believe that if you land according to the plan of scholarship in Syria, it would be a great moral support to Assad and his supporters and would sober up the heads of scumbags !!
              1. Denzel13
                Denzel13 14 January 2013 13: 15
                +12
                Alibek is right. Direct participation is unlikely, but the presence of a significant grouping there is a deterrent. It is unlikely that the "democratic forces" will start any action in Syria by their own forces (and not by the "rebels") as long as our fleet is there. The consequences can be unpredictable, which they are not happy with. Maybe these "exercises" are the result of the actions of our intelligence, which obtained information about the beginning of any operation on the part of "those who carry democracy." Preventive, so to speak, actions.
                1. Aliv
                  Aliv 14 January 2013 15: 45
                  +9
                  Good time everyone! And what intelligence data. Turkey places Patriots on the border. Not from flying art. shells and mines are going to defend themselves. Another no-fly zone is being organized for a military invasion. And the Russian fleet with its base is like a bone in the throat.
                2. Arkan
                  Arkan 14 January 2013 16: 01
                  +6
                  Quote: Denzel13
                  Maybe these "exercises" are the result of actions of our intelligence

                  Everything is clear there even without undercover intelligence, on January XNUMX, Anders Fogh Rasmussen called on NATO "not to hide its head in the sand."
                  http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/streit-zwischen-buendnis-und-mitgliedstaaten-

                  nato-chef-erwaegt-militaerische-intervention-in
                  In addition, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Yasem al-Thani said: "Diplomacy can continue for another two, three or four weeks - but not more. The situation in Syria is too tragic, and we cannot justify all this talk of supporting political decisions." ...
                  http://delo.ua/world/voennoe-vtorzhenie-v-siriju-mozhet-nachatsja-cherez-dve-ned

                  eli-katar-194522 /
                  1. Sandov
                    Sandov 14 January 2013 19: 46
                    +5
                    Arkan,
                    In addition, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Yasem al-Thani said: "Diplomacy can continue for another two, three or four weeks - but not more. The situation in Syria is too tragic, and we cannot justify all this talk of supporting political decisions." ...

                    Then we are there so that different sheikhs do not sausage there.
                    1. Aaron Zawi
                      Aaron Zawi 14 January 2013 22: 59
                      0
                      Sandov
                      The situation is really extremely curious. What are your forecasts?
                      1. urchub
                        urchub 14 January 2013 23: 39
                        +1
                        Amer’s goal is China without Russia in any way and Russia. China is very strong. the chaos of Syria and Iran is a threat to Russia. Amers need to choose if to crush Syria and Iran to block China, Russia will draw closer to the Celestial Empire or the Russian allies should Syria be left in limbo for bargaining Turkey, the states will not let Russia become strong Russia will be blocked through Ukrov. Backstage and the states and Ross need to be kept in China. And this is all a game. By the way, if the GDP does not pull the ukrov of the TS within 2-3 years, it will probably go before the end of the term.
                      2. Oleg Rosskiyy
                        Oleg Rosskiyy 15 January 2013 00: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        What are your forecasts?

                        God bless you.
                      3. Che
                        Che 15 January 2013 08: 01
                        +1
                        Aaron Zawi,
                        Personally, it seems to me that Syria will stand in the struggle, but Assad will retire after fulfilling the main task of his life - to preserve sovereignty.
                      4. Sandov
                        Sandov 15 January 2013 16: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        The "progressive" press of the USA, Great Britain, and a number of Arab countries was full of headlines about the militarism of Russia and its attempts to put pressure on "the free people of Syria, who do not want to see the dictator Assad at the head of their country."


                        The people of Syria are fighting the Amer rats, the American militarists are planting their fucking democracy in unacceptable ways.
                        We are for this in Syria so that all this rabble like sheikhs does not make the people of Syria a blood bath. At the same time, Israel should not disappear from the world map.
              2. Quiet
                Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 10
                +5
                They will arrange the shift method of duty as on oil rigs. A new shift has come - the old has returned to R.F. For our sailors a free cruise (at least they will see the world) ....
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 14 January 2013 18: 48
                  0
                  Quote: Quiet
                  They will arrange the shift method of duty as on oil rigs.

                  As if already.
                  Quote: Quiet
                  For our sailors a free cruise (at least they will see the world) ....

                  Read the performance characteristics of our boats and impressions of such cruises have already been laid out. Our ships are not cruisers, not cruisers. Maximum efficiency on such a tonnage.
                  1. Quiet
                    Quiet 14 January 2013 19: 41
                    0
                    One presence is enough ... Remember 1945.
                    1. s1н7т
                      s1н7т 14 January 2013 23: 38
                      -13
                      Quote: Quiet
                      Remember 1945.

                      They may remember, but putinoids - no. Therefore, they do not respect us and are not afraid.
                      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                        Oleg Rosskiyy 15 January 2013 00: 15
                        +8
                        Quote: c1n7
                        Because they do not respect us

                        Whom are you - Kasyanin, Nemtsov, Tyutyukin, so jackals, they are jackals everywhere, that they respect them, they have already begun to sell children over the hill-creatures.
              3. Bekzat
                Bekzat 15 January 2013 11: 35
                +4
                Welcome all. Alibek You are right, Russia will not take part in the conflict, but I think they will definitely make the landing. Eh, during the exercise, they would have fired a volley of anti-ship weapons at the training point, but live, it would have cooled the heads of the "hot guys" from the west.
                1. Simon
                  Simon 15 January 2013 16: 54
                  +3
                  In, in. And to establish a training point in the center of the group of the Syrian opposition.
                  1. orfo
                    orfo 15 January 2013 17: 56
                    +1
                    better at headquarters in turkey
            3. Sergh
              Sergh 14 January 2013 09: 39
              +13
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              the situation in foreign media is reminiscent of 08 08 08, when everyone and sundry spit in Russia ... uploading Ka 52 to it

              Hi guys!
              Che, stsuki gayropeyskie ... did not wait ??? Now BOOM speak differently ... why, to whom and lope! And then tired of paper morale.
              Helicopters, Alexander, a little on three ships on the "Moscow" Ka-27, anti-submarine "Severomorsk" 2 pcs. Ka-27PL, Ka-27RTs, patrol boat "Yaroslav the Wise" Ka-27, in total I counted four of them, if they haven't hidden them somewhere in the stash, there will be enough need for a jump of cargo and ammunition, etc. But they will still do.

              "Yaroslav the Wise" military helicopter.

              1. Retx
                Retx 14 January 2013 09: 52
                +16
                Hello Sergey!
                So for sure, a handsome man stands at the pier, waiting for orders soldier


                1. Фокус
                  Фокус 15 January 2013 14: 54
                  +1
                  The last photo inspires respect for the ship.
              2. Zabvo
                Zabvo 14 January 2013 17: 29
                0
                what is that "Tikongnroga" in the background?
            4. SCS
              SCS 14 January 2013 12: 13
              +4
              I think it will land ...
              Landing or not is not so important, because just by its presence, the Russian Navy provides moral (and most likely not only moral) support to Assad, balancing forces, preventing NATO members from openly interfering in the internal affairs of the state, as well as (which is the most pleasant))) snapping diarrhea to our Western "friends"!
            5. zanoza
              zanoza 14 January 2013 13: 00
              +7

              atalefYou have already signed up volunteer, with children and immediate family members, to participate in military operations in Syria? These are not tin soldiers. It’s somehow easy for you: MUST, OBLIGED, in fact, provide military support to Syria. There are no "friends" in the world, there are "fellow travelers": political, strategic, military, geopolitical. There was a time when Bulgaria was "considered" (naively) 16 the republic of the USSR, BROTHERS, SLAVS .... Now they are in NATO and "slops" pour on Russia worse than others. It is necessary to stop the massacre in Syria! But not with the lives of Russian guys. If you shed your blood, it is only to protect the lives of your fellow citizens. I don't see a FLOATING HOSPITAL in the squadron, by the way. IMHO.
              1. Region65
                Region65 14 January 2013 15: 30
                +4
                however gangster attacks of the West in the North. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and so on were stopped precisely by the lives of Soviet guys. Or are soldiers needed only at the parade to demonstrate uniform from Yudashkin?
                1. zanoza
                  zanoza 14 January 2013 18: 27
                  +3
                  You apparently participated there? Did you serve in the army though?
                  By what place are the countries listed by you turned now to Russia, as a sign of "gratitude"? (Afghanistan forgotten)
                  With which fright country should send its soldiers to war in Syria? Did she have a UN Security Council mandate for this?
                  Syria begs: Save!
                  For the sake of Serbia, we raised a finger slightly.
                  The personnel of the technical base of the Navy were touched - to burn out a security zone of 1 km around the base with napalm (I know, I know ..).
                  It will be necessary to evacuate the citizens of the Russian Federation, but the Airborne Forces, the Marine Corps, the Ministry of Emergencies - forward! Some cover up, others take out.
                  1. Black Colonel
                    Black Colonel 16 January 2013 13: 02
                    0
                    And arrange a cover to the very Turkish border am
              2. atalef
                atalef 14 January 2013 15: 50
                0
                Quote: zanoza
                atalef, Have you already signed up as a volunteer, with children and immediate relatives, to participate in military operations in Syria?

                And what do you think?
                Quote: zanoza
                Somehow it’s easy for you: MUST, OBLIGED to actually provide force support to Syria.

                Etoya wrote?
                Quote: zanoza
                . Stop the massacre in Syria! But not the lives of Russian guys

                Agree
              3. Aliv
                Aliv 14 January 2013 15: 59
                +1
                I completely agree with you. War on foreign territory, and even more so, on our own, we do not need. The United States, by the way, also does not fight much. She is more concerned with security, and then for the loot. Supporting fellow travelers is also tricky. To lie, like Zapat is insolent, but yourself ... They say that the ship broke down, you need to go to the port to be repaired, and spare parts to and fro. And at night they should fill the chambers for friendly people. How the USA in Afghanistan interfered with us. If only then they wouldn’t start bombing our base with our own weapons, when the trouble subsided. History, alas, has the property of repeating itself. Therefore, it is important not to overdo it here.
              4. Prokop
                Prokop 14 January 2013 16: 31
                +3
                Quote: zanoza
                There was a time when Bulgaria was "considered" (naively) 16 the republic of the USSR, BROTHERS, SLAVS .... Now they are in NATO and pour "slops" on Russia worse than others

                With the same success, you can say about Ukraine, but do not confuse the people with the so-called * elite *, which seized upon the government of these countries.
                1. zanoza
                  zanoza 14 January 2013 19: 26
                  +2
                  This people сpuddles (if you want, forced to serve) in the army of the country, which is part of the NATO bloc and is under the operational control of the command of this bloc. Yes, in addition, somehow squeezed, or NATO bases or elements of the bloc’s infrastructure on their territory. For this, our Russian thank you to them! am
                  1. sorokin
                    sorokin 15 January 2013 19: 20
                    +2
                    Quote: zanoza

                    These people serve (if you want, are forced to serve) in the army of the country, which is part of the NATO bloc and is under the operational control of the command of this block. Yes, in addition, somehow squeezed, or NATO bases or elements of the bloc’s infrastructure on their territory. For this, our Russian thank you to them!
                    This poster is still hanging next to the gates of the Naval base in Atia. Bulgarians are not allowed to shoot. In the summer there was - photographed.
                    1. mnn_12
                      mnn_12 15 January 2013 20: 10
                      +3
                      Dear Sorokin,
                      A very illustrative example is shown. Unfortunately, the forces of those striving to break deep historical ties are very intensively acting not only in Bulgaria but also in Russia. Zanoza is a typical example of the success of these forces. The complete absence of active action by the Russian state makes an impression on the restoration of the influence of the position in Bulgaria. This photo is a wonderful symbol of today's situation - something is preserved, but no one is making efforts to restore or further develop ...
                      1. sorokin
                        sorokin 16 January 2013 10: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: mnn_12
                        This photo is a wonderful symbol of today's situation - something is preserved, but no one is making efforts to restore or further develop ...
                        Here is a "NATO" fighter. For the Russians: - he says, - I'll tear your ass. On the NATO flag. So that's it.
                        People will still figure out who is better to live with and be friends with.
              5. AleksUkr
                AleksUkr 14 January 2013 17: 25
                +4
                As a rule, a war on foreign territory helps to save lives on one's own. This is what our American "friends" are doing successfully. But Russia does not enter any war, and moral and material support does not count. Yes, unfortunately, we have no friends. There are only consumers of our help. But while this help is going on, they are mainly on our side. And there how the map will fall.
                1. Quiet
                  Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 39
                  +1
                  Russia has two friends - the Army and the Navy !!!!!
                  1. s1н7т
                    s1н7т 14 January 2013 23: 44
                    -4
                    Quote: Quiet
                    Russia has two friends - the Army and the Navy !!!!!

                    The state (not the country) wanted to spit on friends, however!
                    That's why we live.
                  2. mnn_12
                    mnn_12 15 January 2013 20: 16
                    +2
                    Without allies, no one in the modern world can live. The USSR and the army and navy were larger than Russia now, but this did not help. When the USSR betrayed friends and it was done away with.
                    Often repeat this phrase here. Probably suitable for training editors and sergeants, but for officers and politicians such a philosophy is disastrous.
              6. mnn_12
                mnn_12 15 January 2013 01: 26
                +5
                Now they are in NATO and pour "slop" on Russia worse than others.

                Dear zanoza,
                Read and learn more before writing! Genesis 16 of the republic was proposed by Zhivkov, and this proposal was largely consistent with the centuries-old cultural and political ties of the two peoples. He was not more loyal and betrayed by an ally from the Warsaw Pact those years than Bulgaria.
                Therefore, the betrayal of Mikhail Sergeyevich was the most tangible in Bulgaria. And for the betrayal of the most faithful friend, what do you expect? Flowers? You can do a bit of dolar but of course there will be no respect ...
                And now in Bulgaria, the Russian language is the second most studied language after English among schoolchildren.
                I understand that probably the brain has been washed, but illiteracy combined with aggression will not turn your statements into truth. Learn and think more before writing ...
                1. Arkan
                  Arkan 15 January 2013 01: 50
                  +5
                  Quote: mnn_12
                  Therefore, the betrayal of Mikhail Sergeyevich was the most tangible in Bulgaria. And for the betrayal of the most faithful friend, what do you expect? Flowers? You can do a bit of dolar but of course there will be no respect ...

                  You are absolutely right! Not only the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, but most of the Union Republics were left without any choice after Gorbachev's "change of course" and Yeltsin's "independence of Russia." I think now the moment of Truth has come: if Russia surrenders Syria, this will mean that in fact, nothing has changed in it since the 90s (it's just that now there is a sober president) ... Well, if it does, our world will begin to change.
                2. Captain45
                  Captain45 15 January 2013 04: 23
                  +3
                  Quote: mnn_12
                  Genesis 16 of the republic was proposed by Zhivkov, and this proposal was largely consistent with the centuries-old cultural and political ties of the two peoples

                  But the USSR did not accept this proposal for only one reason; it did not want to lose the voice of an independent state in the UN supporting the policies of the USSR.
              7. Simple
                Simple 15 January 2013 02: 00
                +2
                zanoza: "I do not see a FLOATING HOSPITAL in the squadron"

                It will be a clear sign for everyone that intentions can go far beyond the teachings.
              8. sorokin
                sorokin 15 January 2013 19: 15
                +5
                Quote: zanoza
                There was a time when Bulgaria was "considered" (naively) 16 the republic of the USSR, BROTHERS, SLAVS .... Now they are in NATO and "slops" pour on Russia worse than others.
                In the late 80s and early 90s, we left Bulgaria. She did not interest us. Yeltsin and his team looked to the United States, giving Americans and their allies freedom to operate in Eastern Europe. But despite this, in the mid-90s, thanks to the voices of Russophiles, the Socialist Party came to power, whose leaders turned to Moscow for support. Yeltsin again refused. Then the Bulgarians finally fell under the West. And the people are still there in Russian freely and they are incredibly happy with Russian guests. Especially in the provinces.
            6. urchub
              urchub 14 January 2013 21: 56
              +1
              no fighting needed. You forgot about the confusion. it’s enough that something will fly out from under the water and light up the sky over the Turks and Qatar for a long time they will think that it was that it fell somewhere in the Pacific Ocean (something like this)
              1. Black Colonel
                Black Colonel 16 January 2013 13: 08
                0
                In addition, there may be some kind of "failure" in the guidance system or target designation am
          2. vyatom
            vyatom 14 January 2013 11: 43
            +9
            Declare the rebels as terrorists and destroy them in the bud with the help of airstrikes. And let the NATO petushars come forth in bile.
            1. Prokop
              Prokop 14 January 2013 16: 38
              +4
              Absolutely right! Especially when looking at the actions of France, which calls the same forces, in Syria rebels, and in Mali terrorists.
              1. Zhylaw
                Zhylaw 14 January 2013 18: 54
                +13
                Absolutely right! In Bulgaria, not everyone is delighted with our membership in the EU and NATO. No one asked us if we want a stat colony USA. NATO is essentially a Pazar of weapons! Our army is almost destroyed ...
          3. AleksUkr
            AleksUkr 14 January 2013 17: 15
            +5
            And who knows about it. There is always intrigue during large exercises. Yes, and playing on the nerves of American friends clearly does not hurt. We are waiting, sir.
          4. vezunchik
            vezunchik 14 January 2013 22: 11
            0
            dear friend, constantly asking questions ... why would it ???? bully
        2. domokl
          domokl 14 January 2013 09: 04
          +20
          You don’t have to be seven spans in your forehead to understand, Russia shows the West a muzzle ... And it does the right thing ... We too believed and too burned on our faith ... Now we have stopped believing ... The words of Western politicians are empty words, but they only do things when they feel a boot on their throats
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 14 January 2013 09: 11
            +14
            Quote: domokl
            The words of Western politicians are empty words,

            Well, why empty, in these words a lot of lies on all counts. And behind these words rivers of blood flow hi
            1. Dmitriy69
              Dmitriy69 14 January 2013 10: 13
              +4
              To the phrase
              Quote: domokl
              Western politicians
              words
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              a lot of lies on all counts
              somehow applied by themselves in all sane people. And you always look at the familiar as an empty place.
          2. Tatarus
            Tatarus 14 January 2013 10: 02
            +2
            Quote: domokl
            The words of Western politicians are empty words


            Not a sound, but such a big pile of fertilizers.

            Our people have known for a long time
            The best fertilizer is ..... manure.
          3. Quiet
            Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 43
            0
            Or a shovel from a sapper shovel in the anus, like a saak .....
          4. s1н7т
            s1н7т 14 January 2013 23: 47
            -3
            Quote: domokl
            Russia shows the West a muzzle

            But what, the Stabilization Fund is no longer in the West? If still there, then this is not a blow, but only a hint.
            1. illarion
              illarion 15 January 2013 03: 47
              +3
              The stabilization fund is equal to the external debts of our industry. If they freeze from them, they grab from us, like no one owes anything to them. They will have paper left, we have industrial enterprises.
        3. YARY
          YARY 14 January 2013 09: 31
          +10
          1-] Terrorist makes important confessions to CNN

          The Government of the Justice and Development Party is no longer able to convince anyone that refugees live in the camps located in Turkey. This is a lie, and these camps are training centers for terrorists who arrived from all over the world. In them, militants can also relax before heading to Syria to conduct terrorist activities.
          One of the terrorists, Sami Yousef, told in front of the video camera of the American television channel "CNN" that he repeatedly took part in terrorist operations against the Syrian army in Aleppo and Idleb. At the same time, at any time, when he wants, he hides in Turkey as a "refugee".
          Previously, he transmitted distorted information about what is happening in Syria, for which he was arrested. Then came under amnesty. But, instead of taking advantage of the liberation in order to return to normal life and take a decent, patriotic position, he switched to terrorist acts.
          In the video report of the CNN channel, Sami is shown in one of the Turkish camps. He brags to the camera that he is heading to Syria with the Akhrar Al-Sham brigades and then returning back to Turkey.
          1. YARY
            YARY 14 January 2013 09: 35
            +11
            2-
            The terrorist made another serious confession: he said that he and his accomplices used school buildings as their bases. This reaffirms that terrorism and extremism are enemies of science and knowledge, and what they plan in Syria has nothing to do with the values ​​of true democracy, freedom and human rights. Their goal is to destroy a normal life, push Syria back, do everything so that its people get worse and worse.
            1. Vanek
              Vanek 14 January 2013 09: 47
              +2
              Quote: Ardent
              One of the terrorists, Sami Yousef, told in front of the video camera of the American television channel "CNN" that he repeatedly took part in terrorist operations against the Syrian army in Aleppo and Idleb.


              How few necessary words, and how many unnecessary thoughts. ................... I have.

              Hello to everyone hi
          2. Retx
            Retx 14 January 2013 09: 41
            +9
            Yes, how scum act in Chechnya, they shoot then it gets hot as an ass - he throws down his weapon and yells "I'm a civilian, don't shoot!" am
            1. Quiet
              Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 52
              +2
              "I am a civilian do not shoot!"

              H-e-e-e !!! They yell, "I'm a foreign citizen, I'm heading to Sumatra to catch butterflies" ... fellow
          3. Quiet
            Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 47
            +1
            In them, militants can also relax before heading to Syria. ........ to the eternal rest !!!!!
        4. Botanologist
          Botanologist 14 January 2013 17: 29
          +3
          the situation in foreign media is reminiscent of 08 08 08, when all and sundry spit in Russia, but could not do anything.

          When dogs poison a bear, they try to bullshit more and climb less on the rampage - they know what awaits them. So let Turkey be tense, come up with something, how to otmazatsya before the owners and not sit down on the rule. Except for her, no one is going to fuss anyway; here it’s not Libya.
          1. Quiet
            Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 55
            +2
            So let Turkey be tense, come up with something

            ... For starters, let him take a consultant from the Georgian Foreign Ministry .....
        5. Sandov
          Sandov 14 January 2013 19: 40
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          However, in fairness, it must be said that especially impressionable readers who believe that true advocates of the democratic system and not motley militant groups are fighting with Assad in Syria, even in the West are becoming less and less.


          I would say more precisely, not militants, but pro-American bandits. Everything was planned at the headquarters of NATO.
          1. orfo
            orfo 15 January 2013 02: 59
            +2
            anyone would tell them that they are fighting for "Islam". It is hard to believe that the highest army ranks who have deserted want something other than personal rule.
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 15 January 2013 16: 10
              +2
              orfo,
              Those who overstepped, frankly managed. Weak people, used to eating sweet and sleeping near the authorities. And at the time of testing they gave slack. Doomed themselves to life in villainy.
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 14 January 2013 09: 59
        0
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        as they say, the dog barks and wears wind.

        Better to say "The dog barks the caravan is coming"
      3. donchepano
        donchepano 14 January 2013 10: 01
        +1
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        State Depot mongrel barking hi ... as the people say, a dog barks and wears wind.


        Urgently launch an information war against the Westerners
        1. starpom
          starpom 14 January 2013 10: 31
          +4
          Quote: donchepano
          Urgently launch an information war against the Westerners

          Moreover, so many opportunities have now been provided to omit the paddling pads and small shavings ("providing assistance" to Mali without any sanctions, not only the UN, but even its legislators)
      4. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx 14 January 2013 11: 13
        +7
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Their inheritance is yapping and exposing their asses with wagging

        I hope our leadership takes advantage of this for its intended purpose, namely, it will give a good kick with the breadth of the Russian soul. laughing
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 14 January 2013 15: 20
          -2
          Quote: Ghen75
          I hope our leadership will take advantage of this for its intended purpose, namely, it will give a good kick with the breadth of the Russian soul

          Yeah........... request
      5. Atlon
        Atlon 14 January 2013 13: 10
        +3
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Nothing, now they are restoring this memory, it is a pity that it is not too fast, but they are restoring it, and this is the main thing.

        You can’t quickly ... the therapy, although intensive, is strictly dosed, otherwise the patient is dead ... laughing
        So that's right, a little bit, on a pill a day, get used to! wink
      6. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 14 January 2013 20: 13
        +8
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Nothing, now they are restoring this memory, it is a pity that it is not too fast, but they are restoring it, and this is the main thing.
    2. yustas
      yustas 14 January 2013 07: 29
      +4
      Yes sir!
      And not only to calm down, but also to give in hands, so that they do not climb where it is not necessary ... otherwise it will be electrocuted or "the snow will fall, and you will be completely dead."
      1. Dmitriy69
        Dmitriy69 14 January 2013 07: 38
        +5
        Quote: yustas
        "the snow will fall,

        "the snow will hit the head ..." Seems so right. In Syria, it is very easy to get under a snow block belay . Someone doesn't believe ?!
        1. yustas
          yustas 14 January 2013 07: 54
          +1
          Dmitry, don’t call it anyway it will hurt =)
        2. homeland
          homeland 14 January 2013 08: 14
          0
          Guys, but in the event of a mess, our people will be cut off in Syria, Turkey and Iraq will not give air links ...
          1. Pula
            Pula 14 January 2013 08: 29
            +14
            In the event of a mess, they will no longer be asked. "Patriots" in Turkey can also be silenced. And Iraq will pretend not to notice.
            1. zanoza
              zanoza 14 January 2013 13: 32
              +1
              ... "Patriots" in Turkey can also be silenced ..... And will NATO calmly swallow? You are healthy?
              1. Kuryanin
                Kuryanin 14 January 2013 14: 07
                +3
                I agree this is already a new world smacks of.
              2. Quiet
                Quiet 14 January 2013 18: 58
                0
                You are healthy?


                Many thanks !!!! And God forbid you do not get sick (from a pure heart) hi
          2. Retx
            Retx 14 January 2013 09: 32
            +5
            Iraq will give airspace. We transport weapons along the Caspian-Iran-Iraq route, no one searches and no one asks questions.
            1. homeland
              homeland 14 January 2013 14: 34
              +3
              And who will inspect? Iran? If not in the same boat now, then in the same direction we are definitely sailing with them.
          3. Vanek
            Vanek 14 January 2013 09: 48
            0
            Quote: vatan
            Turkey and Iraq


            So it is thought that they will not be asked.
            1. Sergh
              Sergh 14 January 2013 10: 39
              +3
              Quote: vatan
              will be cut off in Syria, Turkey and Iraq will not give air links ...

              Last night, on a dispatching online map of civilian flights, I specifically watched civilians
              flights to Damascus, so three planes landed in an hour, one went from Kiev through Turkey, one from Tehran and one
              local seems with Aleppo. Then one took off and went to Egypt in Cairo, the other back to Iran. Yes to Qatar, Jordan
              fly to saudas too ... right now one goes on a flight:
              Damascus - Doha
              Flight RB 521
              Distance: 1714 km.
              Arrival after 1 hours 46 minutes


              1. homeland
                homeland 14 January 2013 14: 14
                0
                Sergey, it’s one thing in peacetime passengers fly, another when enemies are teeming in the sky
              2. Quiet
                Quiet 14 January 2013 19: 20
                +1
                That's right !!!! "Refueling in Damascus" good
            2. homeland
              homeland 14 January 2013 14: 45
              +2
              They won't ask, but I hope the presence of our guys will sober up the heads of the sponsors of this whole story with "instructing Syria on the bright path."
          4. zanoza
            zanoza 14 January 2013 13: 43
            0
            Do not worry, there are half of the commenting GAMERS. "War" (shooter, strategy) on the computer is a common thing for them. It's simple, with repetitions and restarting in case of failure. Bang bang and the enemy is defeated.
            1. Aliv
              Aliv 14 January 2013 16: 27
              +1
              A fine line is between muscle flexing and another world war. The First World War also began with bullshit. The situation is tense now. There is a struggle for resources. The current situation is still different in that in the event of an imminent defeat, any nuclear power may say, "So don't get it to anyone," and press the button. The US will do just that. They have a cult of revenge above all else. I think everyone understands this, so having a fleet in Syria is important. Not everyone wants to be the first to cross the line.
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 14 January 2013 16: 58
                +5
                Quote: Aliv
                The United States will do just that. They have a cult of revenge above all.

                This time the situation for the United States is somewhat more complicated, the fact is that the foundation of the existence of Western civilization is Middle Eastern oil, and any interruptions in its supplies can cause collapse, and any nuclear mess in this region will lead to a catastrophic drop in production ... On the other hand - The West (especially the United States) is extremely important to maintain an agreement with Qatar and Saudi Arabia, according to which these countries sell their resources exclusively for dollars in exchange for protection against all threats (including from Israel), and this is becoming more difficult every year (The developing economies of China and India each year require an increasing amount of resources, the influence of these countries in the world is also growing, and confidence in the dollar on the contrary is falling. The USA is now between two fires, but a nuclear war in this region is their nightmare .
              2. Quiet
                Quiet 14 January 2013 19: 27
                +1
                So don't get anyone, "and press the button. USA for sure

                Bored ..... There are more and more people who want to erase the USA from the map every day in the queue with an eraser !!!!!
            2. Quiet
              Quiet 14 January 2013 19: 23
              +5
              here half of the commenting on GAMERS. "War" (shooter, strategy)

              minus 1 is me .... Who else is a gamer, put a plus ....
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 14 January 2013 19: 33
                +1
                Quote: Quiet
                minus 1 is me .... Who else is a gamer, put a plus ....

                I somehow tried to gamble in Contra, it turned out that I had "crooked hands" for this ((((. laughing
                1. Quiet
                  Quiet 14 January 2013 19: 47
                  +1
                  When you stand up to your chest in water, your hands under the water always appear crooked !!!! You have optical illusion !!!! bully
              2. TUNISIA
                TUNISIA 14 January 2013 21: 32
                +3
                I sometimes play Klondike and Minesweeper from the Start Menu. Can I be considered a "gamer" ??? request
          5. Kuryanin
            Kuryanin 14 January 2013 14: 06
            +1
            What guy zaminusili current he asked, worried man. Our demand is not hit.
          6. homeland
            homeland 14 January 2013 14: 09
            0
            It seems that presidential advisers and close generals are sitting on the site personally.
            It is still unknown how everything can turn around, but now Turkey will be pacified if anything and Iraq will give good, as if our people are sitting with them. If we take a bite with Turkey, the shit-gunners will immediately forget about Syria and switch to us.

            Someone outplayed toys?
    3. nokki
      nokki 14 January 2013 07: 39
      +10
      Quote: Dmitriy69

      And even so.
      They can, but not others?
      After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.


      Absolutely correct! Impunity corrupts, and inevitable retaliation is sobering!
      Alexey - from the bottom of my heart - thanks for the article! What you need!
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 14 January 2013 10: 20
        +1
        For sobering, it will be possible to use long-range agricultural aircraft, as at one time in the DRA, peasants were assisted in harvesting the next crop. am
    4. Bort radist
      Bort radist 14 January 2013 07: 43
      +6
      The West will "crack" on its head.
      They were going to conduct a special operation, and we have exercises - pure coincidence belay feel
      PS I remembered the song, the veterans remember "" And the city, I thought, and the city thought - the trainings are going on! "
      1. Ro-man
        Ro-man 14 January 2013 18: 53
        0
        This song is completely different. Do not drag her here ..
    5. Bykov.
      Bykov. 14 January 2013 08: 01
      +3
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.

      They are afraid that Moscow will calm not only and not so much terrorist bandits,
      but also those who arranged all this, orgy, in Syria.
      In short, the West is afraid for itself, for its own skin.
      1. Armata
        Armata 14 January 2013 08: 52
        0
        Hi everyone. If "Moscow" fires a full salvo, then half of the territory of the state (tobish of Turkey, Syria) will simply not happen. So our ships are there purely for intimidation.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 14 January 2013 09: 40
          +7
          Quote: Mechanic
          If "Moscow" fires a full volley, then half of the territory of the state (tobish of Turkey, Syria) will simply not be.

          You at least do not write garbage for the sake of a red word. A full salvo of "Moscow" 16 missiles 4K80 of the "Basalt" complex, the mass of the warhead is 500 kg, is intended for firing at surface targets, reloading is laborious and is performed only at the base.
          1. Armata
            Armata 14 January 2013 09: 51
            +3
            Quote: baltika-18
            s garbage, then at least do not write for the sake of a red word. A full salvo of "Moscow" 16 missiles 4K80 complex "Basalt", the mass of the warhead is 500 kg, is intended for firing at surface targets, reloading is laborious and is performed only at the base.
            I don’t know. So the P500 is a Surface-to-Surface missile (he served on Ustinov himself), so launching even against ground targets is allowed. There is only one thing, but they will not reach the ground in range. But you can even dream if they can reach it (the country is small).
          2. starpom
            starpom 14 January 2013 10: 35
            +4
            Quote: baltika-18
            complex "Basalt"

            Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to have been modernized before Vulcan.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 14 January 2013 12: 58
              +4
              Quote: starpom
              Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to have been modernized before Vulcan.

              You are not mistaken. But they differ only in the range of flight "Basalt" -550 km, "Volcano" -700 km. The rest of the performance characteristics are the same.
        2. leon-iv
          leon-iv 14 January 2013 10: 52
          +2
          all is well, but missiles in Moscow are only anti-ship.
          And this entire fleet can only work effectively against ships.
          Here in the subject would be new corvettes with frigates and the Mistral. Well, an aircraft carrier for cover.
          1. grandfather
            grandfather 14 January 2013 15: 53
            +4
            in the conflict in Georgia, ships did not work badly by land, artillery and artillery in Africa wink
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 14 January 2013 16: 46
              +1
              lol and range?
              Without Corvette URV frigates, one cannot meddle in such adventures.
              + Need UDC for over-landing
              + Aircraft carrier
      2. Aliv
        Aliv 14 January 2013 16: 36
        +1
        Peace in the Middle East is worse than the victory of the Assad regime. Who, then, should we sell weapons to? Peaceful people will start thinking, "What happened to us. Who is to blame for all this? And muddy the hose with oil."
    6. YARY
      YARY 14 January 2013 09: 22
      +9


      And increase the base, upgrade at least soldier
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 14 January 2013 09: 38
        +11
        Good day to all.

        quote.

        Strikes on ground targets it is planned to carry out as part of the operation to cover the landing and reloading the landing. Several ships were assigned to carry out the artillery strike, including the guard watchmen Yaroslav the Wise (Baltic Fleet) and Smetlivy (Black Sea Fleet), the Moscow RK (flagship of the Black Sea Fleet), as well as the anti-submarine ship Severomorsk (Northern Fleet) . The landing operations themselves will be carried out from the ships Saratov and Novocherkassk (Black Sea Fleet), Alexander Shabalin and Kaliningrad (both Baltic Fleet).

        That kind of wording confused me somewhat. in red.

        But the Yankees and the rest of the geyropeytsy have to get out of that area for a while, otherwise after all the boats who didn’t hide, it’s not my fault.
        1. Retx
          Retx 14 January 2013 10: 03
          +9
          For obser further our potential friends, old but loud words:
          "The Air Force aviation will be ready to fulfill any task that the Supreme Commander-in-Chief sets us, " - said Gradusov, answering the question of whether the Russian Air Force is ready to cover Russian warships from the air if they are sent to Syria to protect and evacuate Russians there.

          Everything, the red cross can send a batch of diapers for the brave Salafists, fighters for freedom and democracy laughing
          1. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 14 January 2013 20: 54
            +3
            That’s why I love my country, because it can take place in Syria, while aviation can be covered somewhere in the San Francisco or Boston area, and it’s very effective)))
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 14 January 2013 18: 40
          +2
          Why be embarrassed? Will the Syrian side appoint the coordinates of the shelled sites? I believe - Assad will thoughtfully approach this responsible matter. How do we know what exactly is in these areas ?! We finally have nothing to do with it!
          Intervening in another's war (by the way - what kind of war? Does the government consider this a terrorist attack) is certainly not possible! But to train the Marines a bit is sacred. And who portrayed the enemy and why they feel so bad ... well, how do we know? All were prepared by the Syrians.
          The question is which wrapper to use and how to wrap. If you give the "peace-loving West" an opportunity to retreat, quietly burying the diaper so that no one can see - the West will surely get away. It seems Assad has a real chance ...
          1. Quiet
            Quiet 14 January 2013 19: 36
            +2
            Most importantly ... No one can figure out Russian missiles or Syrian !!!!
            1. Bashkaus
              Bashkaus 14 January 2013 20: 56
              +1
              And do you think there, after scientists, someone wakes up to want to find out whose rockets lay down there?
    7. donchepano
      donchepano 14 January 2013 09: 54
      +4
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      And even so.


      And large-scale exercises there must be carried out for a long time, and
      Urgent assistance is urgent, despite and not listening to some impudent ssaktsev and America-Serov
      1. 755962
        755962 14 January 2013 10: 25
        +3
        And not long before that ...
        Panetta: America will not send troops to Syria if chemical weapons are used ("The Washington Times", USA)

        “We are not working on options for sending soldiers,” Panetta emphasized at a Pentagon briefing. - I believe that the possibility of a peaceful change of power and the involvement of international organizations that can ask us for help should always be taken into account. But in a dangerous environment, we do not plan to send soldiers».


        http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20130111/204485403.html

        Ss ... t when scared .....
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          Oleg Rosskiyy 15 January 2013 00: 28
          +1
          755962,
          Why should they send their soldiers, these ghouls have a fine-tuned recruitment of terrorists held in American prisons (concentration camps) around the world, and no one needs to pay, "either you go to a hot current, or endless torture in a concentration camp, well, at the same time, they will experience another military development, of course, from a drone or from a strategic bomber.
    8. Hammer
      Hammer 14 January 2013 10: 21
      +3
      They are afraid - they mean respect. That means they recognize us as an adversary, and therefore they reckon with us as a force.
      Actually, it should be so. Everything returns to normal - everything falls into place. Russia is slowly taking its rightful place in the world ranking table. If you rephrase one well-known phrase, then we can say that the position of a country in the world is judged by its enemies ...
    9. ZKBM-BUT
      ZKBM-BUT 14 January 2013 11: 15
      +3
      I want to ask, what is happening in general? the policy of the West with its henchmen is clear to me. they do whatever they want, regardless of morality and chhat wanted what the rest of the world would say. which in turn is also logical, because the rest of the world is always silent or hums. does nothing else. saying that he is not going to lay down his soldiers for the freedom of a foreign country on the battlefield. except that Russia sometimes pokes around, sending ships nearby to swim, and shoot on the waves. but this is a show-off and nothing more. unlike the real actions of the West. and the show-off is very cheap. potamu as a "free army of Syria" and for a second will not stop in their actions from the fact that there are some kind of ships, some kind of Russia, somewhere in the sea are swimming. and you can't argue with that, it's a fact. you know, I live in a small village with a population of about a thousand people. nearby there is a village with a population of almost fifteen thousand and a few more villages around, almost all with a population larger than my village. and at the same time we have always beaten these villages throughout all generations in our youth. besides, no one is still seriously trying to challenge our superiority. Let's just say at first our boys choose girls for themselves, and the rest will get what. why is that? because we are united. We have no whiners who claim that our guys don't wave their fists for someone else's village. we always defend our interests in any locality. for example, if my good friend living in a neighboring village was beaten by fellow villagers, then I will stand up for him, and my fellow villagers will support me. and so we have from generation to generation. therefore they are afraid of us, and whoever is not afraid is at least afraid. why shouldn't we also live as peoples? Why do we leave the Syrians and others to their fate? This Ssykun statement that we have so much warmed up only makes us weaker. and queues up with the Yankees for "de-democratization." After all, tomorrow they will also bomb us, and the Syrians will say - no, we will not go to save the Russians, we have shed so much blood. Here we will beat the show-off with all sorts of resolutions, we will shout condemning demands, but in the news we will show the whole truth. but no, we will not go.
      1. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 14 January 2013 12: 15
        +1
        ZKBM-BUT,
        I look you were not answered. I'll try. It's one thing to wave your fists, and another thing to get a "load of 200". besides, tough guys got rid of for various reasons, and in the army - boys. And it is necessary to resist militants with excellent training.
        Yes, and everyone is tired of - where only our guys are not put and you will not wait for thanks. After all, ours do not understand what is there, other customs, another attitude is required. Let ours only accomplish the feat! And for whom? what? Everything is not simple with them, not in Russian. So something like this appeared = let them fight, and we will stand on the sidelines. With our simplicity, straightforwardness to climb into this "East, it's a delicate matter" and to whom!

        So your anology about village showdowns is not true.
        And not at all times your village will prevail. And in other villages
        "cockerels" will grow up and play on yours. Fitness and other fighting
        1. ZKBM-BUT
          ZKBM-BUT 14 January 2013 13: 10
          +7
          I dare to disagree. what an ass excellent preparation for scumbags who do not even know how to read. the damage they inflict is based only on guerrilla tactics and no more. such tactics always cause significant damage with a minimum of cost. brains and skills for such tactics are not necessary. listen even to themselves - two weeks in a camp on the territory of neighboring countries with Syria and go into battle. who you will have time to teach in two weeks. I went through training for six months, then served a year in the unit. when he got into Chechnya, he was an elephant for another six months. In total, it took me two years to become a professional. Potam how to properly teach how to fight a person can only be in real conditions, and not sitting in the classroom and running along the derektrissa or participating in ostentatious battles for bosses. and my village as an example is very suitable. Potam that in order to understand the complex, you must first understand the simple. your fitness, along with other martial arts, works only in the movies. in life, if you don’t have the spirit, then no karate will help you. as for let them fight and we are on the sidelines. Such a view is the norm for Georgia or, for example, for Romania. and for Russia it’s deadly to think so.
        2. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus 14 January 2013 21: 07
          +6
          At the expense of your questions: And for whom? why? I will answer this way:
          The Bible has these words: you are the salt of the earth, but if you are spoiled, then with what to salt, and where do you need spoiled salt, they will throw it away.
          So, you know, it just so happened in historical development that Russia is the salt of civilization, perhaps the only country and nation in the world that really still distinguishes black from white and good from evil. It just so happened that we have such a cross, to be a breeding judge in this world, so that he does not destroy himself ... We stopped Napoleon, Hitler, if we had not done this, it is not known what would have happened now? What do you think your grandfather would answer in the 44th, if you stood on the border of the USSR and started shouting, stay Russian soldier, you shed a lot of blood, you liberated your homeland, go home to your wife and children. For some reason it seems to me that your own grandfather would have shot such a lousy grandson without trial and investigation without flinching a finger. Only Russia can stop this cancer, whether you like it or not, but you will have to, and if you already think like them, asking the question "for what?" it means you are already sick, and the cancerous tumor is removed from the body, it means you are no longer Russian.
          Sorry if offended. but you need to look at the world a little wider
      2. ksandr45
        ksandr45 14 January 2013 14: 07
        +2
        Only in your showdown do noses break and people die in wars. And as it’s not difficult to guess, the war collects the same pay from men and women, only it makes some pay with blood and others with tears.
        1. ZKBM-BUT
          ZKBM-BUT 14 January 2013 14: 38
          +3
          Well, not only the noses break, and there are corpses. everything happens in life. in general, this whole story can be compared with the situation when there are two high school students healthy. one of them hammering a first-grader, and the second a healthy bull hung a mane and moo condemning aside. and the high school student continues to beat the youngster even with his ear, not leading to the fact that this healthy bull is mooing from his rostrum. yes, yes, this bull is Russia. he would be suitable. Yes, silently without words, it was all the bread and butter to unfold this high school student. but no, he prefers not to interfere. looks great russia right? straight humanly, an example to the rest shows how to live life. Russia will never be great with such behavior. this behavior is characteristic of a third-grade country.
          1. vsa-xnumx
            vsa-xnumx 14 January 2013 16: 53
            +3
            "Russia will never be great with such behavior"


            In principle, I fully agree with EKBM-NO. How long can you look to the "west"? What are they afraid of? Do you think they will twitch? NO! They are cowards by nature.
          2. Sandov
            Sandov 14 January 2013 20: 21
            +1
            ZKBM-BUT,
            Russia will never be great with such behavior. this behavior is characteristic of a third-grade country.

            No need for the whole of Russia, by the way on the site many will support you. The authorities follow the lead of the West - this is another matter.
      3. Aliv
        Aliv 14 January 2013 16: 53
        +4
        That is why great generals do according to the principle, "Divide and conquer." For all my dislike of the Anglo-Saxons, I take off my hat to them. They have learned to destroy the state perfectly. With all the friendliness of some regimes, governments and just people, we are not allies. Nobody reaches out to Russia. NATO is an alliance united by commitments. One thing gives hope. By all indications, like any superpower, the United States (and with it NATO) will soon fall apart. And themselves. The blanket is not rubber, many begin to freeze and pull it harder in different directions.
    10. lotus04
      lotus04 14 January 2013 12: 09
      +3
      And let's suspect them (the West) in the PEACEFUL solution of the Syrian issue. wink
    11. beech
      beech 14 January 2013 14: 53
      +2
      if so, I would like Qatar to let his pants in ... then they will beat our ambassador, then they will finance the terrorists ...
    12. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 14 January 2013 17: 40
      +11
      You are angry Russian laughing

      1. phantom359
        phantom359 16 January 2013 02: 24
        0
        Sith Lord, Wow, this is it. on the very eggs.
    13. APASUS
      APASUS 14 January 2013 19: 16
      +1
      Quote: Dmitriy69
      After all, someone needs to calm the bandits.

      The fact is that we consider them bandits, in the West they are champions of democracy and justice !! And they put us on a par with the terrorists, those that undermine Western values, and if so, then stand on ceremony with us !!
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 14 January 2013 21: 12
        +1
        Yeah, well then they bombed a city in Mali today? According to official figures, 60 militants were killed after the French air raid. Is it militants there, but are there democrats in Syria?
    14. rolik
      rolik 15 January 2013 13: 13
      +3
      For obvious reasons, when phrases like “Assad’s bloody regime”, “Putin is ready to support Assad” and “Russia’s military invasion of Syria” appear in media reports in one material, especially impressionable readers (especially in the West) begin to show up again anti-Russian sentiment.
      Here is the notorious WOW-ORAL AND WOW-ANAL principle of the life of modern Western society (Pelevin's novel "Generation Pi"). They consume what the TV feeds them and release processed information that turns into action or intentions. What they loaded on the subcortex, then at the exit. And they are constantly being told that the Russians are enemies and want to enslave the universe. So what is there to be surprised, no discoveries. Everything the west does is good. Everything that Russia does is a priori bad.
    15. Dnepropetrovsk
      Dnepropetrovsk 18 January 2013 01: 28
      0
      It’s time for Russia to act this way.
    16. imguskov
      imguskov 20 January 2013 19: 45
      0
      This is something! Russia has its own voice. This is already pleasing. Of course, I feel sorry for Libya, Muammar was a devoted friend and would go with Russia to the end. It’s time to put the Americans in their place, and Europe will immediately respect.
  2. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis 14 January 2013 07: 20
    +10
    A little more and in the West of schizophrenia will take acute forms.
    ARTICLES of the BLOOD PUTIN EAT type will appear drenched in the blood of LITTLE CHILDREN IN SYRIA.
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 14 January 2013 07: 25
      +10
      Quote: lehatormoz

      In the WEST of SCHIZOPHRENIA a little more

      It will become the norm like gays, lesbians and the rest ........ am
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 14 January 2013 08: 00
        +8
        They have had schizophrenia since 45, after the phrase: "The Russians are coming!" and jump from a skyscraper, it seems Forestola!
        1. rolik
          rolik 15 January 2013 13: 43
          +5
          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          jumping from a skyscraper seems Forestol!

          CIA Director James Forrestal threw himself out of a window in 1949 shouting "The Russians are coming"! And he died, as Radzinsky used to say. He stayed in office for only 2 years, and that's how our topic undermined him. By the way, at the moment of being thrown out, he was removed from office due to "nervous exhaustion"))) No one can vouch for the authenticity of the phrase, because they found him already dead. But, they say, he persistently repeated it the day before. wassat
          And then Saakashvili repeated it, hiding under the bodies of his guards from an absolutely invisible, inaudible and nonexistent Russian attack aircraft laughing
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 14 January 2013 08: 08
        +7
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Will become the norm

        Rather, it will become law, as with gays and lesbians.
        1. Armata
          Armata 14 January 2013 08: 56
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Rather, it will become law, as with gays and lesbians
          Sanya I have to be there. You know what I'll tell you. There are much more intelligent people there. It's just that their government is crushing, for the sake of Tolerasts, and ginseng-jocks (those who attach rubber to themselves)
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 14 January 2013 09: 09
            +5
            Quote: Mechanic
            . There are much more intelligent people there.

            Hi Zhenya, even if so, it’s not clear to me which banana they go to the polls and vote for those morons who crush them request
            1. Syrdon
              Syrdon 14 January 2013 11: 18
              +1
              This is not entirely true. In ii, electors decide everything, but they do not always do what voters guarantee them. Everything is decided there by the backstage, financial bosses, masons, Mormons and other enemies of mankind)) Amer’s Preziki are just talking heads.
      3. domokl
        domokl 14 January 2013 09: 06
        +2
        So it already is ... The fact is that the majority piously believes in their media and politicians ... They are even more than we are stamped ...
        1. Armata
          Armata 14 January 2013 09: 27
          +9
          Quote: domokl
          So it already is ... The fact is that the majority piously believes in their media and politicians ... They are even more than we are stamped ...
          Hello Alexander. Do you know how those who were here speak of Russia? I can tell you about the Germans, Italians, Bulgarians, Japanese, and much more about whom. so here are some theses about life in Russia:
          1. You live very well, we envy you.
          2. You would have better parliament (of those who do not steal) Then just a song.
          3. All countries went through bribes. Officially they were allowed only in Israel. But over time, everyone understands that peace of the family is much more important than money. Of course, money is not the last, but not the main thing. (This was told to me by a German, deputy minister of heavy engineering) in a private conversation)
          1. domokl
            domokl 14 January 2013 10: 07
            +7
            Hi Eugene! I often talked with foreigners, though now I live in a vacuum ... Siberia ... I know their opinion about us .. But this is only the opinion of those who were in Russia ... Most of the population believes, alas, the media .. And that they write there we know .. By the way, our TV drives such programs to the West that your ears wilt and you want to beat the editors
            1. Armata
              Armata 14 January 2013 12: 44
              +2
              Quote: domokl
              .Siberia..
              Well, that is, I live in a partially discharged Urals? laughing
            2. atalef
              atalef 14 January 2013 15: 57
              +3
              Quote: domokl
              By the way, our TV drives such programs to the West that ears wither and editors want to beat

              Yes ITV International, 1 and 2 international - such a crap, as if from 90's. Continuous series and pop with Kirkorov.
          2. Syrdon
            Syrdon 14 January 2013 11: 20
            +1
            it seems that the nus approach this idea, but in order for this idea to enter the head more intensively, we must plant the entire group of Serdyukov.
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 14 January 2013 07: 38
      +7
      Quote: lehatormoz
      ARTICLES of the BLOOD PUTIN EAT type will appear drenched in the blood of LITTLE CHILDREN IN SYRIA.


      Let the assholes from shitty publishers eat feces on people, we are pissed on these delights and screams, like most of the population of Russia.
    3. ZKBM-BUT
      ZKBM-BUT 14 January 2013 12: 05
      +1
      generally parallel to what they say in the west. the main thing is in fact. truth rules the world, not a lie. although sometimes it seems otherwise.
    4. alexng
      alexng 14 January 2013 19: 32
      +4
      Quote: lehatormoz
      A little more and in the West of schizophrenia will take acute forms.
      ARTICLES of the BLOOD PUTIN EAT type will appear drenched in the blood of LITTLE CHILDREN IN SYRIA.


      Yes, their schizo never passed, just the forms of manifestation were different. Is it normal people will build democracy by using bombs and killing defenseless children, women and the elderly, just for the fact that they are and live.
    5. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 15 January 2013 20: 45
      +1
      Yeah, after he kisses her stomach in her stomach ........... the West has taken acute forms of schizophrenia for a long time, this is a chronic relapse, is not treated hi
  3. Ustas
    Ustas 14 January 2013 07: 29
    +4
    Large-scale exercises, in which the ships of the United Inter-Navy Group of the Navy of the Russian Federation will participate, begin in the eastern Mediterranean.

    Cold shower on hot western heads.
  4. Delink
    Delink 14 January 2013 07: 38
    +1
    Open a new newspaper for the west. And we need to write the same nasty things in her actions. Pour mud, let them justify that we all misunderstood.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 14 January 2013 09: 05
      +2
      Delink,
      Yes there is already! And every day, the first English-language channel TV Russia Today is gaining popularity! wink
      They still try, as far as possible, to explain objectively Russia's policy.
      And lying and dousing opponents is not worthy of our state. The truth is much worse for them!
  5. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO 14 January 2013 07: 42
    +7
    Put article plus sign.
    Why are there Western editions ... We also have our own “soothsayers” in a number of media outlets that echo their foreign colleagues

    Even here leaked in the form of the previous article of a liberal liberal Ishchenko.
    1. botur2013
      botur2013 14 January 2013 10: 19
      +5
      Tremble tyrant Putin goes to the aid of Assad's bloody regime! smile
  6. StrateG
    StrateG 14 January 2013 07: 49
    +4
    The news is like a balm for the soul ...
  7. Bykov.
    Bykov. 14 January 2013 07: 57
    +5
    West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force

    Ha haaaaaaa. The West, however, began to guess what Russia was going to do with it.
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 14 January 2013 20: 04
      +1
      We put on the beach loungers with umbrellas and lie down to sunbathe ..... Charter tourists from Russia ..... bully
  8. ATATA
    ATATA 14 January 2013 08: 03
    +2
    There are 4 BDKs indicated, is there a specialist who can say what kind of marine corps forces can be there? Just wondering. But just ask the specialist to answer, just the answers from the students are not needed.
    1. TRex
      TRex 14 January 2013 08: 24
      +3
      The ships of the project are designed to transport a reinforced company of the Marine Corps or 225 paratroopers and 10 tanks. The dimensions of the cargo compartment are 95 × 4,5 × 4,5 m, the mass of the cargo is up to 480 tons. The landing is located in several cockpits and officer 4-local cabins.

      Is it difficult to go to Vika yourself?
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 14 January 2013 08: 50
        +2
        Thank. I didn’t guess. )
    2. erix-xnumx
      erix-xnumx 14 January 2013 09: 54
      +2
      This will make a battalion of Mror infantry with reinforcements. Here we must also look at the projects of these large landing ships. If all four ships are "Poles" of the 775 project, then the battalion will not fit. And if among them there is at least one "cattle carrier" of 1171 projects, then the battalion will enter with a reserve.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 14 January 2013 11: 02
        +6
        Quote: erix-06
        And if among them there is at least one "cattle carrier" of 1171 projects, then the battalion will enter

        Of the four large landing craft, three 775 projects are Kaliningrad, Alexander Shabalin, Novocherkassk, as you say, "livestock" Saratov 1171.
        1. erix-xnumx
          erix-xnumx 14 January 2013 13: 20
          +2
          Well, it means that you can land a battalion with reinforcements on these ships.
          1. dmitreach
            dmitreach 15 January 2013 22: 58
            +1
            Rather, there are specialists with technology. Air defense electronic warfare and the like, and not exclusively the marines. The Syrians have enough soldiers, but not very well with "military advisers - specialists". In the 80s, we fired missiles at planes there, our officers.
      2. Quiet
        Quiet 14 January 2013 20: 07
        +1
        Half sunbathe on the deck, the other half in the cockpit, in the shade, then change ..... laughing
  9. krasin
    krasin 14 January 2013 08: 12
    +1
    The prestige of the country must be raised !!!!!!!
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 14 January 2013 18: 54
      +1
      Yes, we have the Kremlin, as they say. Readiness, as with her? That is the question ...
  10. OlegYugan
    OlegYugan 14 January 2013 08: 15
    +4
    Hilary brought to tantrums - I wonder who is next ??
  11. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 14 January 2013 08: 24
    +11
    Like, pure coincidence ... This position is even more annoying for the West.
    Well, if it so happened, what can you do then? the teachings according to the schedule, everything is fine, all ships are shattered, equipment malfunctioning machines from the last century, the form freezes, there is nothing to worry about here to the west - with its invisible UAVs for $ 200 million request
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 14 January 2013 08: 56
      +6
      Kyrgyz,
      And really, why so distracted! bully
      Their liberal agents in Russia have long buried both the army and navy.
      drinks
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 14 January 2013 09: 32
        0
        The story of an American, "and around the dead with scythes stand ......" belay laughing recourse
  12. JonnyT
    JonnyT 14 January 2013 08: 24
    +4
    And what is left for them besides yapping ???? "In impotent rage, the enemy tore his throat"

    And our armed forces really need these exercises, how much time has passed, and the new composition of officers and soldiers has not participated in such exercises for a long time. A strong army is the right foreign policy!
  13. Gregazov
    Gregazov 14 January 2013 08: 27
    +5
    The news is good, but not for everyone. For some reason, the firing range is not designated in advance. In my opinion, these should be areas captured by bandits. Then the stripping will be faster.
    1. Retx
      Retx 14 January 2013 09: 36
      +7
      Well, you know how it happens, GLONASS failed there, the wind was strong and something else ...
      1. Azzzwer
        Azzzwer 14 January 2013 22: 35
        +1
        Quote: RETX
        Well, you know how it happens, GLONASS gave a glitch there, the wind was strong and something else.
        What are you guys talking about? is that you are the first world with a solid line trench? there are civilians mixed with militants! Are they fighting the right way?
  14. Pula
    Pula 14 January 2013 08: 36
    +3
    The main thing is that the Russian command does not change, but clearly gives commands to maintain the status of a country with the right to vote on the issues of the peaceful resolution of international conflicts.
  15. vitaliy-boyko
    vitaliy-boyko 14 January 2013 08: 39
    +1
    this west has already reached, they climb as always where they don’t need, by force they need to be put in place.
  16. Rus_87
    Rus_87 14 January 2013 08: 42
    +10
    How quickly the Anglo-Saxons got used to the "good" ... When our ships did not go anywhere and stupidly rotted at the pier or even "better" went to eternal rest to be melted down or as some kind of attraction in the park ...
    And then a whole group came out, a large landing craft, a cruiser, patrol boats, and a nuclear submarine for sure, what a UZHOS !!! It's all the despotic "Putin's regime" to blame, the Russians want to take over the world again !!! "Evil Empire" is reborn !!!

    But seriously, damn it, how did these Western mongrels get it, when did they calm down? ... Thank God, the time has passed when Russia did something, or did NOT do it from the West, it’s time for them to get used to the fact that The bear has already risen from its knees, and all these screams and tantrums are nothing more than barking pugs at the elephant.
  17. Director
    Director 14 January 2013 08: 50
    +2
    a newspaper idea is good, but not real. strangle her in our country because everything is bought and sold. And money, as is known in the West, even from our politicians and the elite "if you can call it that."
  18. Cavas
    Cavas 14 January 2013 08: 56
    +28
    For obvious reasons, when phrases like “Assad’s bloody regime”, “Putin is ready to support Assad” and “Russia’s military invasion of Syria” appear in media reports in one material, especially impressionable readers (especially in the West) begin to show up again anti-Russian sentiment.

    Let the West Pray That Their Seal Does Not Come Out With Headlines "The Arab rebels took Paris", "Russian military landing on the coast of France", "Putin is the liberator of Europe"!

    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 14 January 2013 10: 11
      +3
      Thanks bro. Cool art
  19. ochakow703
    ochakow703 14 January 2013 08: 57
    +9
    The West is capable of many nasty things in relation to our group, and we must keep our ears open. However, I am very glad that we returned to Mediterranean, and not with a rotten hydrograph, but with a very real force. That only "Moscow" with its 16 containers is worth. In the 80s, we were, oh, how they reckoned with us, the Americans held two aircraft carriers each (more often Saratoga and Coralsey), and we had a full-blooded Mediterranean flotilla, which in this area could solve any problems.
  20. omsbon
    omsbon 14 January 2013 08: 58
    +8
    Lived, we rise from our knees!
    If the West does not like something, then it can look the other way!
    1. ochakow703
      ochakow703 14 January 2013 09: 14
      +3
      There is one BUT where these creatures would not turn their heads, we are everywhere. The country is og-go-go! Yes, and they seem to have nowhere else to watch, they all seduced ...
    2. Vanek
      Vanek 14 January 2013 09: 51
      +2
      Quote: omsbon
      If the West does not like something, then it can look the other way!


      Handsomely!!!
  21. Alx1miK
    Alx1miK 14 January 2013 09: 00
    0
    This is the guys rattling weapons in my opinion - we’ll land vryatli. Although who knows what may change in 1-2 months.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 14 January 2013 09: 20
      +3
      Alx1miK,
      Well, why! The exercises provide for the landing of marines, and even with the support of anti-aircraft artillery and equipment. Another question is that we should not move further than the base territory. They may also accuse of an illegal military invasion of the territory of a sovereign state that is not part of a military bloc with Russia. For horror, this is enough, t. K. The militants are not aware of our plans, but everything incomprehensible scares! bully
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 15 January 2013 04: 43
        +2
        Quote: sergo0000
        Another question is that we should not move further than the base territory. They may also accuse of an illegal military invasion of the territory of a sovereign state that is not part of a military bloc with Russia.

        Well, why blame. With Syria there is an agreement on military-technical cooperation, they will provide the territory for exercises under this agreement, so that everything is legal. Well, whoever didn’t hide, we are not to blame!
  22. Mavsik
    Mavsik 14 January 2013 09: 03
    +1
    These exercises are a retaliatory step towards building up a missile defense system in Turkey. During the exercises, one should expect provocations from the "democratic appazition of Syria" and their owners - so I do not rule out "hitting civilians during the firing of shells", etc.
  23. Apollo
    Apollo 14 January 2013 09: 05
    +16
    In my opinion, the goals of the Russian Navy grouping in the Mediterranean are:

    1. The Russian Navy has not conducted exercises with the forces of three fleets for a long time. In my opinion, there is a check of coordination of the fleets of Russia on practice.
    2. By conducting exercises, provide psychological, moral support, not only to President B. Asad but the authorities in general. The fact is that, no, no, there were nymphs about the transition of high-ranking officials to the side of the armed opposition. contribute to the strengthening and consolidation of power in Syria.
    3. To show the West that it is time to reckon with Russia. Russia an important geopolitical player in resolving global issues.These teachings serve as a kind of reminder and warning those who have a short memory. That is, in other words, without taking into account the opinion and interests of Russia, this problem can not be solved. IMHO
    1. Armata
      Armata 14 January 2013 09: 16
      +4
      Apollo. Hello my friend. I can object to you.
      Quote: Apollon
      The Russian Navy has not conducted exercises with the forces of three fleets for a long time. In my opinion, coordination of the Russian fleets is being checked in practice.
      How are you practicing today?
      Quote: Apollon
      Conducting exercises to provide psychological and moral support, not only to President B. Assad but also to the authorities as a whole. The fact is that, no, there were no nymphs about the transition of high-ranking officials to the side of the armed opposition. These exercises help strengthen and consolidate power in Syria.
      This does not surprise anyone in the world. They will fit a little more than their fleet. And kirdyk to all our ships.
      Quote: Apollon
      Show the West that it’s time to reckon with Russia. Russia is an important geopolitical player in resolving global issues. These exercises serve as a kind of reminder to those who have a short memory. That is, in other words, without taking into account the views and interests of Russia this problem cannot be solved. Imkho
      I understand that this is only your opinion personally, there is one thing but. Our fleet is 3 times smaller than any NATO fleet (I’m not talking about under-covers), they just throw us boots. And if we can oppose something off our shores (proximity to repair facilities, fuel depots), then in the oceans we fell to the level of a teenager who is now starting to run into a man in 120 kilos. So now we are a little higher than China, but with the Yankees we can’t butle at sea (we’ll lose the last)
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 14 January 2013 09: 31
        +8
        Quote: Mechanic
        I understand that this is only your opinion personally, there is one thing but. Our fleet is 3 times smaller than any NATO fleet (I’m not talking about under-covers), they just throw us boots. And if we can oppose something off our shores (proximity to repair facilities, fuel depots), then in the oceans we fell to the level of a teenager who is now starting to run into a man in 120 kilos. So now we are a little higher than China, but with the Yankees we can’t butle at sea (we’ll lose the last)


        I greet you Eugene! hi
        In the West, all the same, since the Soviet Union the complex remained, at the very last moment he passes.Of course, the political and military leadership of Russia is aware that the forces are incommensurable. But these exercises do not aim to intimidate anyone, in this case the main goal is to show that Russia in this region has its own geopolitical interests, which it will certainly defend .
        Of course, we can only assume true goals behind seven castles, for that it is a state secret.
        1. nickname 1 and 2
          nickname 1 and 2 14 January 2013 10: 03
          +1
          Quote: Apollon
          it’s also a state secret.


          it seemed to me that not on this forum smile
      2. Rus_87
        Rus_87 14 January 2013 09: 41
        +9
        This does not surprise anyone in the world. They will fit a little more than their fleet. And kirdyk to all our ships.


        Kirdyk is kirdyk, but this is already at the beginning of the 3rd World War, and those who are going there to adjust something a little more, also realize this. And Russia, in addition to the fleet (even if today is not able to compete with the navies of NATO countries), has a pardon, nuclear submarines with intercontinental missiles, there are strategists with cruise missiles and there is a "grove" of Topol, Ash, and other "trees" ... And the fact that we have now fallen to the level of a teenager, who is now starting to run into a man of 120 kilos, there is nothing wrong with that, when this "teenager" has at least 3-4 peasants behind him with "clubs", "poplars", etc. .d. hi
        1. Armata
          Armata 14 January 2013 12: 50
          0
          Quote: Rus_87
          Kirdyk is kirdyk, but this is already at the beginning of the 3rd World War, and those who are going there to adjust something a little more, also realize this. And Russia, in addition to the fleet (even if today is not able to compete with the navies of NATO countries), has a pardon, nuclear submarines with intercontinental missiles, there are strategists with cruise missiles and there is a "grove" of Topol, Ash, and other "trees" ... And the fact that we have now fallen to the level of a teenager, who is now starting to run into a man of 120 kilos, there is nothing wrong with that, when this "teenager" has at least 3-4 peasants behind him with "clubs", "poplars", etc. .d.
          Duck, until we fire a volley of nuclear weapons, the 3 will not be global, but there’s no way to untie it with anyone. So all will be pieces of paper between the Foreign Ministries to fight later. In general, how much can you shake your nuclear member on the site? This is a deterrent weapon. And everyone understands that its use is the end of our civilization.
      3. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 14 January 2013 09: 55
        +4
        Mechanic,

        In your opinion, it turns out until our fleet is numerically superior to the NATO fleets or (and) SyShya, do we need to sit and not lean out?

        And what do all fleets need to stick together? Are they not players individually either?
        1. Armata
          Armata 14 January 2013 12: 51
          +3
          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          In your opinion, it turns out until our fleet is numerically superior to the NATO fleets or (and) SyShya, do we need to sit and not lean out?
          In my opinion, our fleet should not be seen as a club in that region. He is just a witness to what is happening there. and as a rather indirect one there is no invasion of Syria.
          1. nickname 1 and 2
            nickname 1 and 2 14 January 2013 22: 45
            +1
            Mechanic,
            I don't even consider it. But then they came and did the right thing. and let them shoot and make noise, and let every living creature that has an eye look and "imagine" something. And let someone else remember - AI Mosca, know she is strong when she barks at an elephant!
      4. TUNISIA
        TUNISIA 14 January 2013 11: 13
        +2
        Quote: Mechanic
        Our fleet is 3 times smaller than any NATO fleet (I'm not talking about the under-covers), they just throw us boots. And if we can oppose something off our shores (proximity to repair facilities, fuel depots), then in the oceans we fell to the level of a teenager who is now starting to run into a man at 120 kilos. So now we are a little higher than China, but with the Yankees we can’t butle at sea (we’ll lose the last)

        Wait a second: you raised the question of "weight categories" not quite correctly and objectively. Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs. In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose missile landed on our ship. The size of the fleets of course matters, but only with an already legalized war. And in that war, the States and NATO as a whole will not count their fleets.
        1. Armata
          Armata 14 January 2013 12: 54
          +1
          Quote: TUNISIA
          Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs. In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose rocket fell on our ship.
          Do not confuse the right of civilian ships with the military.
          Quote: TUNISIA
          The size of the fleets, of course, matters, but only with an already legalized war. And in that war, the States and NATO as a whole will not have their fleet counted.
          Legal warfare is absurd. And what in this case do you expect Russia to deliver a preemptive strike on the territories of NATO states or on the Yankees?
          1. TUNISIA
            TUNISIA 14 January 2013 17: 27
            +1
            Maybe I'm certainly not right, but dissuade me in this, as regards the TERRITORY of the state. What is the difference between civilian and warships in relation to this? Only in the possible consequences. And then, not sure.
            And about the preemptive strike. Formally and legally, a strike, if it is considered as a measure, will not be preventive, but retaliatory. And these are different things. And where it will be inflicted if something happens - the Supreme Commander will determine.
            1. Armata
              Armata 14 January 2013 18: 37
              +1
              Quote: TUNISIA
              Maybe I'm certainly not right, but dissuade me in this, as regards the TERRITORY of the state. What is the difference between civilian and warships in relation to this? Only in the possible consequences. And then, not sure.
              A military unit that entered into battle is either surface or underwater. Without declaring war, it is an independent combat unit that does not belong to the flag raised above it. Read the Maritime Code of Practice.
              1. TUNISIA
                TUNISIA 14 January 2013 21: 47
                +3
                Mechanic, there are no questions: I spoke out, you brought a counterargument with which I agree, I will not argue, because, apparently, I am not strong in naval affairs drinks One thing, I think, remains unchanged: no one will dare to try this combat unit "to the teeth." The situation does not favor this.
              2. Captain45
                Captain45 15 January 2013 04: 50
                0
                Quote: Mechanic
                Without declaring war, it is an independent combat unit that does not belong to the flag raised above it. Read the Maritime Code of Practice.

                And to whom then does this independent unit belong?
        2. atalef
          atalef 14 January 2013 13: 05
          +2
          Quote: Mechanic
          In my opinion, our fleet should not be seen as a club in that region. He is just a witness to what is happening there. and as a rather indirect one there is no invasion of Syria.

          I agree with the fleet of the same Turkey (located nearby is an order of magnitude more powerful than the group)

          Quote: TUNISIA
          Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs. In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose rocket fell on our ship.

          You are absolutely right that NATO will not start the 3 World War because of Syria (since the consequences of an attack on a grouping of Russian ships will cause it unambiguously) so Russia will not start it because of Syria. In general, it will end up by scribbling and scattering, and in Syria what will be continued. for Bandyugan a month or two is not a deadline (they will wait until the ships leave), and they are fighting in the depths of the territory (the Alavites live on the coast). Assad’s weapons are already enough, high-tech tools are not needed to fight the partisans.
          In general, my conclusion is that Assad will beautifully and morally support (which is important) It will have practically no effect on the military choir (or only in a very short term)
          Quote: TUNISIA
          And in that war, the States and NATO as a whole will not have their fleet counted

          What fleets? You laugh - the 3 World War I will be exclusively nuclear, whoever counts the fleets there, the states will turn to dust, everyone understands this and therefore is convinced that there will be no military confrontation between NATO and Russia over Syria. Not the reason for ruining the whole world.
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv 14 January 2013 13: 30
            +3
            I agree with the fleet of the same Turkey (located nearby is an order of magnitude more powerful than the group)
            No, this is not so. For we do not know what is UNDER water. But I'm more than sure that no less than 4-5 of our submarines graze there. Do you think the Turks want to experience a volley of granites? or look for Warsaw?
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 14 January 2013 13: 44
              +3
              But I'm more than sure that no less than 4-5 of our submarines graze there.

              Too much in my opinion ... 2-3, somehow a more real number. We’re not going to get involved in war, but just for reconnaissance.
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv 14 January 2013 13: 48
                +2
                why do you measure the scale of the Mediterranean, and this is not the whole section, it starts from the Atlantic and ends with the Black Sea. So they carry out combat patrols, and when necessary they will gather at the warrant.
                1. Wedmak
                  Wedmak 14 January 2013 13: 53
                  +1
                  But how can I measure them yet? The submarines were created to guard the warrant and conduct secret intelligence. I do not pretend to be true, I will not argue. It’s just that the number in the 5-6 submarines seemed a bit much - why control the whole Mediterranean Sea?
                  1. leon-iv
                    leon-iv 14 January 2013 14: 00
                    +3
                    The submarines were created to guard the warrant and conduct secret intelligence.
                    no it's not
                    More precisely, the order is protected by submarines by NK and Aviation.
                    The submarine has the task of escort, reconnaissance and strike. For a competent diver can go so that no one hears and does not sit on his tail.
                    Why control the whole Mediterranean Sea?
                    I say it all starts with the Atlantic. For example, an Amer group of ships comes out, our submarine leads it quietly. If another order comes, then they can also collect a group of hunters.
              2. zanoza
                zanoza 14 January 2013 20: 52
                +2
                Wedmak,
                May I ask the English, they know exactly what and how much it entered and exited into the Mediterranean Sea by water and under water. Gibraltar possession of Great Britain in the south of the Iberian Peninsula; includes rock and sandy isthmus. The eyes and ears of NATO.
                1. Wedmak
                  Wedmak 14 January 2013 21: 05
                  0
                  Sorry, I don’t have a direct UK Navy phone. smile
                  1. zanoza
                    zanoza 14 January 2013 21: 51
                    0
                    And about 2-3 submarines, it’s not they you have been informed or guessed yourself? lol
            2. atalef
              atalef 14 January 2013 16: 06
              +3
              Quote: leon-iv
              . Do you think the Turks want to experience a volley of granites? or look for Warsaw?

              Again you shoot shoot. Understand correctly, the attack of the ships is a full-scale military conflict with all the ensuing consequences. Turkey will not do this. In general, with Turkey, the problem will block the straits, where will they return?
              Although in my opinion the solution to the Syrian problem is quite simple. Turkey is the main sponsor of the CCA, the bases and centers are located on its territory. It is enough for Russia to introduce a visa regime with the Turks (having undermined the flow of hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists), stop import-export and Turkey having lost billions, think that it is more profitable to support the SSA or to be friends with Assad. And the ships should not be sent with the lives of soldiers. A year later, without Russian money, Turkey will stretch her legs and feed her not only SSA, she will have nothing
              1. Denzel13
                Denzel13 14 January 2013 16: 35
                +3
                Quote: atalef
                In general, with Turkey, the problem will block the straits, where will they return?


                By the way, it was precisely the problem that you voiced in the USSR that 98 VDD should have solved in a joint operation with the Air Force and Navy.
              2. PROXOR
                PROXOR 14 January 2013 16: 40
                +3
                Quote: atalef
                Again you shoot shoot. Understand correctly, the attack of the ships is a full-scale military conflict with all the ensuing consequences. Turkey will not do this. In general, with Turkey, the problem will block the straits, where will they return?
                Although in my opinion the solution to the Syrian problem is quite simple. Turkey is the main sponsor of the CCA, the bases and centers are located on its territory. It is enough for Russia to introduce a visa regime with the Turks (having undermined the flow of hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists), stop import-export and Turkey having lost billions, think that it is more profitable to support the SSA or to be friends with Assad. And the ships should not be sent with the lives of soldiers. A year later, without Russian money, Turkey will stretch her legs and feed her not only SSA, she will have nothing

                What is the Delitanian estimate of the budget filling by Turkey? Let it be known to you dear that Tourism in Turkey is about 1/20 of their budget. The country has a heavy industry, woodworking, light industry. The country is located between Gaivropa and Asia. This determines its potential. You think that the paints and varnishes that you bought in the store are made by us. Fuck you !!! TURKISH !!!!!!!!!!!!! If we introduce an embargo, then everything. But we also eat normally. It will be possible to forget about the Black Sea ports. Turkey passes its warp through them, at its discretion. And it will not be difficult to put our dry cargo ship in line for a month there, and the main thing in Geyvrop is who knows what. In fact, Turkey is now between a rock and a hard place. Erdogan is also trying not to take a shit with NATO and not let the fire at the gate to his house. And the fire is preparing strong. Assad, having given the Kurds a part of the territory, lit the fuse of such a "barrel of gunpowder" !!!! That the next slaughter will be on the territory of Turkey, Azerbaijan and Armenia at least !!!
                At the moment, we need not to intimidate Turkey but show Erdogan that we are ready for dialogue and cooperation. But at the same time it’s hard to make it clear that with all this, Syria is also vital for us!
                1. valokordin
                  valokordin 14 January 2013 18: 23
                  0
                  Prokhor, you are right, but we should not turn into a spittoon, and the country's honor is more important than 30 pieces of silver
                2. atalef
                  atalef 14 January 2013 20: 22
                  +2
                  Quote: PROXOR
                  What kind of delitana assessment of budget filling by Turkey? Let it be known to you, dear, that Tourism in Turkey is approximately 1 / 20 of their budget

                  The commodity circulation between Russia and Turkey is 31bn., Or do you think that the threat of losing such money will not make Turkey think? I am not saying that they will go around the world, but the leverage is not small.
              3. leon-iv
                leon-iv 14 January 2013 16: 48
                +1
                No, this is not so unfortunately. Tourists are not the main source. But here we have a weapon worse than Onishchenko.

                By the way about the shoot. I am against violence.
            3. Armata
              Armata 14 January 2013 18: 41
              +1
              Quote: leon-iv
              I agree with the fleet of the same Turkey (located nearby is an order of magnitude more powerful than the group)
              No, this is not so. For we do not know what is UNDER water. But I'm more than sure that no less than 4-5 of our submarines graze there. Do you think the Turks want to experience a volley of granites? or look for Warsaw?
              Sorry dear. But if there is a submarine then why no one knows about them? How do the submarines leave the port, and the Yankees and their sneaks know nothing about this? So then their intelligence works well.
              1. leon-iv
                leon-iv 14 January 2013 20: 13
                +2
                You see, you forget all the time that there is an information war in the world right now. Well, the submarines are gone, and what can you not show them on TV? As they call at the ports, our sailors walk in beautiful uniforms.
                But according to the stories of a relative, this campaign was conceived without Syria, and there will certainly be a whole bouquet there.
          2. TUNISIA
            TUNISIA 14 January 2013 17: 38
            +1
            atalef,
            What fleets? You are laughing

            I'm laughing. It was about the mastaba of that war that I meant that everyone would have no time to count their fleets. Or maybe no one ...
        3. Arkan
          Arkan 14 January 2013 17: 46
          +2
          Quote: TUNISIA
          In the event of a strike on a warship, it is equivalent to a military strike on the territory of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences for the country whose rocket fell on our ship.

          The matter is not the fact of the attack of the Russian ship, any missile or plane will be considered as an attack on the warrant (sailors cannot know for sure who the rocket appeared on the radio horizon is aimed at, and will act on the basis that their ships are attacking ... (necessary measures will be taken even before the first missile or bomb falls on a Russian ship) - this is a war. At one time, two Soviet ships also foiled the intervention in Libya, appearing near its shores ...
        4. Captain45
          Captain45 15 January 2013 04: 47
          +1
          Quote: TUNISIA
          Namely: the ship, according to international law, is the TERRITORY of the state to which this ship belongs.

          Not only the ship, but also the airspace a few tens of meters above it. If I am mistaken, correct it.
  24. Irkutsk
    Irkutsk 14 January 2013 09: 08
    +16
    Waiting for the news, the Russian Armed Forces, with the support of the naval artillery, began an operation to protect the legitimate constitutional authority of Syria from terrorist gangs. A missile strike was launched at the reference points of the militants and places of accumulation of military equipment. The command of the united fleet grouping apologizes to the Turkish authorities for inflicting, as a result of an outdated technology error, a missile strike on the territory of a Russian-friendly state. The fact that erroneous blows were applied to the places of deployment of air defense systems is an accident.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 14 January 2013 10: 16
      0
      what a handsome man. still apologize not only to Turkey drinks
      1. Irkutsk
        Irkutsk 14 January 2013 11: 55
        +1
        And before the others, we will apologize for the abandoned boots in the ICBM launch control panel
  25. Wedmak
    Wedmak 14 January 2013 09: 17
    +4
    It was precisely the maneuvers planned by Russia for the Navy ships off the coast of Syria with the call to Tartus that became the object of incessant criticism from the West. A number of Western news agencies reported on the upcoming exercises of Russian ships in the eastern Mediterranean as an attempt by Moscow to resolve the Syrian issue by forceful intervention from outside.

    Well, who would have thought ?? What impudence on the part of Russia, right?
    That’s who would crow, these are Westerners. I think many were convinced that such a reaction would follow from there.

    The article is definitely a plus.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 14 January 2013 10: 18
      +4
      Quote: Wedmak
      That’s who would crow, these are Westerners.


      In our country at the word
      Quote: Wedmak
      crowed

      represent a rooster.

      That's just the word rooster about a bird think less and less
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 14 January 2013 10: 27
        +5
        That's just the word rooster about a bird think less and less

        Ahh .. you understood the idea correctly. smile Itself is shocked that so diplomatically called the whole "progressive" West ne ... mi. hi
  26. Slevinst
    Slevinst 14 January 2013 09: 22
    +3
    at the same time we find out how many submarines of a pedostan are nearby
    1. Armata
      Armata 14 January 2013 09: 34
      +3
      Quote: Slevinst

      at the same time, we know how many submarines of the pedostan are nearby
      We won't find out. But they will know what kind of fist we have. Don't treat the enemy like a child. Remember the Kursk. And this was the last frontier of Russia at that time.
      1. ochakow703
        ochakow703 14 January 2013 10: 50
        +1
        Listen, so Stalingrad was once the last frontier ... and what happened.
      2. leon-iv
        leon-iv 14 January 2013 10: 55
        +2
        Well, Kursk is not so clear. Sevflot more adhere to the opinion of the training torpedo.
        1. Armata
          Armata 14 January 2013 12: 56
          0
          Quote: leon-iv
          Sevflot more adhere to the opinion of the training torpedo.
          Greetings dear. What do you think that the training torpedo could smash 5 bays?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 14 January 2013 13: 00
            +1
            Greetings dear. What do you think that the training torpedo could smash 5 bays?

            Excuse me, which 5 compartments are you talking about? If memory serves, only the first compartment was destroyed and the second was badly damaged.
            And the explosion of one torpedo could lead to the detonation of the entire ammunition.
          2. leon-iv
            leon-iv 14 January 2013 13: 33
            +1
            It is not strange yes. there followed the detonation of the BC. A relative is now on the database. I’ll ask how I come back so that their torpedoes unsubscribe. They’ll describe it better. And the fact that the amers there were their fact. Like us in their exercises, this is normal now.
      3. Syrdon
        Syrdon 14 January 2013 11: 35
        +1
        there is a chance to get even. I won’t be surprised if the Ka27 will seek and give target designation to enemy hunters with their subsequent localization, and then on the circumstances. Let's say a fire on a Virginia class boat, or there is an explosion of a training torpedo.
  27. Bort radist
    Bort radist 14 January 2013 09: 35
    +1
    Quote: sergo0000
    liberal agents in Russia have long buried both the army and navy.

    The story of an American, "and around the dead with scythes stand ......" belay laughing recourse
  28. fenix57
    fenix57 14 January 2013 09: 37
    0
    Quote: Sakhalininets
    as they say, the dog barks and wears wind.

    I apologize: The dog barks, the caravan goes hi
  29. CCA
    CCA 14 January 2013 09: 44
    +1
    West suspected Russia in an attempt to resolve the Syrian issue by force
    This is truly a diamond of double standards ... And the fact that the West itself, for the second year in a row has been trying to advance a resolution through the UN to resolve the Syrian issue by force ... Is that how?!?!? Yes, even if at least they already suspect it, it will definitely have to be taken into account the opinion of Russia ...
  30. erased
    erased 14 January 2013 09: 56
    +1
    Teaching is good! Even better is the planned restoration of the Navy with the construction of new ships for various purposes. I hope so. exercises will help determine priorities in this matter.
  31. altman
    altman 14 January 2013 09: 57
    +1
    Be that as it may, our ships go to the shores of Syria, and "Saratov" will definitely be in Tartu !!! And then - let's see what grows))
  32. Apollo
    Apollo 14 January 2013 09: 58
    +1
    From my point of view, an interesting nymph on the feed of news sites has just appeared. In my opinion, it deserves attention. So
    Media: Iran spies on Israel through two tracking stations in Syria

    WASHINGTON, 14 January. Iran has created two stations for listening and electronic data collection in Syria. This is stated in a special report by the US Department of Defense.

    One such station is located in the northern part of the country, the other in the Syrian part of the Golan Heights. The station was reportedly created by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in 2006, with the support of the Syrian regime. The personnel at these sites are Iranian specialists. They are collecting information for the Lebanese Shiite terrorist organization Hezbollah, the report says.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/01/14/1080753.html
    1. ded-mazai
      ded-mazai 14 January 2013 11: 31
      +2
      Well, far without Israel! good
    2. Rebus
      Rebus 14 January 2013 12: 32
      +2
      Quote: Apollon
      Iran spies on Israel through two tracking stations in Syria

      Yeah, but Israel is white and fluffy, and does not spy on anyone ... laughing
  33. Volkhov
    Volkhov 14 January 2013 09: 59
    +1
    Nowhere is it said about the participation of the Syrian side in the "exercises", and this is mandatory when operating on their territory. Most of all reminiscent of the "Weserubung" at 40, only those were not announced in a month.
    Landing on the coast against tankers and gunners in Idlib, and between them Syria.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 January 2013 10: 06
      +1
      Moreover, I have not seen a single comment by the Syrian side on our teachings. This is somehow alarming.
  34. Chukcha
    Chukcha 14 January 2013 10: 01
    +6
    Russia has suspected the West of a military solution to the "Syrian issue". In response, it was decided to conduct planned exercises in the Syrian territory.
  35. Stiletto
    Stiletto 14 January 2013 10: 16
    0
    Walk Russia! Goodbye, gevrop! Comes to the West the most, the most concrete ..op!
  36. VadimSt
    VadimSt 14 January 2013 10: 18
    +1
    I am not much concerned about a dog running with its tail between its legs, but I’m immediately alert if it doesn’t run away and get confused if it has bared!
    So here - Russia, just did not leave the road. Let them think what they want!
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 14 January 2013 10: 29
      0
      Quote: VadimSt
      I am not much concerned about a dog running with its tail between its legs, but I’m immediately alert if it doesn’t run away and get confused if it has bared!


      Somehow your comparison is not very. Even almost humiliating.
      1. Retx
        Retx 14 January 2013 10: 32
        +6
        Now fix the colleague hi
        You can arrange the roles in this scene yourself, so 08/08/08 was ... Vasya was Georgia then
        1. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 15 January 2013 20: 58
          0
          Micah’s next tie will be ......... Colombian laughing
  37. j9qq6
    j9qq6 14 January 2013 10: 19
    +1
    Assad would have to squeeze the "OPOSITIONERS" into the area of ​​our "exercises", and there he could arrange pincers.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 14 January 2013 10: 27
      +1
      All 100 thousand with tanks and long-range guns, the latest Pturs and Pzrk.
  38. Mrripply
    Mrripply 14 January 2013 10: 30
    0
    Hello everyone, imagine that during the landing exercises there was an attack on the Russian military by the SSA, write down your likely developments, what will be the actions of NATO and the EU when Russia takes retaliatory measures?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 January 2013 10: 40
      +3
      SSA - such a term does not exist, it is a notion of the West. Bandits do not fight against a well-armed opponent. If they get stoned and nevertheless try to somehow provoke our marines, then I think they will immediately receive a missile and artillery strike from the BDK and support ships - no one will talk to them. Marines and sailors will act first, and then scratch their tongues. If it is with anyone ...
      1. Mrripply
        Mrripply 14 January 2013 10: 48
        0
        The fact that the terrorists will receive a retaliatory strike, I have no doubt, I am interested in further actions of NATO! They will not go into open confrontation ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 14 January 2013 10: 54
          +2
          They will not go to a military confrontation and will keep their mongrel. Perhaps some types, like McCain, bark a little, such as inadequate responses, etc. But that’s all over.
          1. Mrripply
            Mrripply 14 January 2013 11: 24
            0
            And this option is possible: America, which does not have to enter into conflict, can make good money by selling weapons to Europe, which, in principle, is interested in a change of power in Syria. Are European countries not trying to gain access to hydrocarbon reserves in the region by gaining energy independence from Russia?
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 14 January 2013 11: 41
              +2
              And what will Europe pay America for weapons? Loans? So, they are already head over heels in these loans, they don’t know where to go. Moreover, they have at stake the collapse of the Eurozone, the economy is barely breathing, what kind of arms purchases are there.
              Are European countries not trying to gain access to hydrocarbon reserves in the region by gaining energy independence from Russia?

              Um .. Yes, for God's sake let them try, only here they also need money to develop their deposits.
    2. unclevad
      unclevad 14 January 2013 10: 47
      0
      The US has already gorged itself beyond measure in other countries. They still do not dare to attack Iran. If, in this case, our shuranut opposition, the Americans are unlikely to do anything, remembering that the supply of the Afghan group is going through our territory. There is no transit - they have a skiff. And even Europeans will be advised not to twitch too much. Only, I think, after the exercises, part of the "broken and not suitable for utilization" military equipment should be left to Assad for utilization.
    3. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 14 January 2013 11: 24
      +3
      I think that such an attack is theoretically possible on the territory of our base in Tartus. We will repel the attack, but NATO will be smoked on the sidelines: they currently have no legal basis for a military presence in Syria. In the presence of a powerful grouping of the Russian Federation, they are in jeopardy to violate international law and UN decisions. So there will be no action on their part in the event of a monkey attack.
      1. Mrripply
        Mrripply 14 January 2013 11: 33
        +1
        Hmm ... I agree, legally we will be right in all respects! But what about Iraq? NATO invaded the territory of a sovereign state without having the UN Security Council decision as a basis, there were no resolutions on Iraq allowing the United States to deploy its troops! Will there be a violation of international law in this case, because the Americans are, in principle, big fans of "word play"?
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 14 January 2013 11: 43
          0
          After all, Americans are, in principle, big fans of "word games"

          Very large, I agree. But three wars battered them a little, they sat there firmly and there is no light at the end of this "ass".
        2. TUNISIA
          TUNISIA 14 January 2013 17: 57
          +1
          Quote: mrripply
          But what about Iraq? NATO invaded the territory of a sovereign state without having the UN Security Council decision as a basis, there were no resolutions on Iraq allowing the United States to deploy its troops! Will there be a violation of international law in this case, because the Americans are, in principle, big fans of "word play"?

          No, with Iraq everything was much simpler for the Americans: they did not have any counterbalance on the second side of the scale, and the word “no” by the Security Council means nothing to them.
          Imagine an average family. There is a disobedient son-bully of a high opinion of himself and who considers himself an adult who wants to naughty. Mom became aware of his plans and she says "no". At the same time, the son does not obey and does his own thing. Another time, when my mother said “no” to her son’s plans to repeat her act, a father with a wide belt appeared on the doorstep and threatened to slap his bully son along the cranial scar. The situation is the same here.
  39. Bezarius
    Bezarius 14 January 2013 10: 31
    -1
    IMHO. Syria needs to become a "vassal" of Russia, so that Russia has a free hand to resolve the conflict by force. If it gives a ride, then ours will manage there in a couple of weeks. In this situation, the alliance will have nothing to argue, tk. we will defend ourselves legally :)
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 January 2013 10: 42
      +6
      IMHO. Syria needs to become a "vassal" of Russia, so that Russia has a free hand to resolve the conflict by force. If it gives a ride, then ours will manage there in a couple of weeks. In this situation, the alliance will have nothing to argue, tk. we will defend ourselves legally :)

      Syria is doing pretty well. Why do we need vassals? Syria is a free state, if it asks for help, then we will think, and colonial policy has never been applicable to Russia.
      1. Bezarius
        Bezarius 14 January 2013 12: 16
        0
        The word vassal is taken for a reason in quotation marks: | For the gifted I will explain that this does not imply the creation of a colony, a new republic, or anything else in a similar sense, but only the creation of a legal basis for conducting military operations in the form of protecting "their" territories.

        After resolving the issue, they would simply have returned their sovereignty to them. In this way, we could protect Syria. And if we defend Syria, then we defend our borders.

        In other matters, the implementation of such a scenario is extremely complicated. It would be necessary to hold a referendum in Syria. NATO countries would definitely try to exert pressure and in every possible way prevent Syria from becoming an object of defense of the Russian Federation.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 14 January 2013 12: 34
          0
          Well, actually, you yourself answered your own question. smile
    2. ochakow703
      ochakow703 14 January 2013 11: 05
      +1
      I would be a little more restrained. We have already "carried out" the cleansing of Grozny with the forces of one airborne regiment. There, the same stoned Arabs and civil war where there is no front line.
      1. Retx
        Retx 14 January 2013 11: 27
        +2
        In Grozny they merged everyone and waited for ours. And then there is a combat-ready army, which needs only a little help
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 14 January 2013 11: 46
        +1
        In Grozny, there were not stoned Arabs, but trained fighters with RPGs and a bunch of small arms. There was a very sad miscalculation with the introduction of tanks into the city, in general, our "commanders" broke a lot of firewood.
        I hope this bloody lesson has been firmly learned by our command.
        1. Bezarius
          Bezarius 14 January 2013 12: 20
          +1
          Judging by the successful military operation against Georgia, there should not be any special problems. And the situation is different, the very status of Syria will scare off NATO.
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 15 January 2013 17: 18
          +1
          Wedmak,
          NOT THE COMMANDERS BROWNED THE FIREBOARDS AND THE HIGHER COMMAND.
          Commanders died as well, if not more. The deceased Rokhlin, the kingdom of heaven to him, as he fought with our pasha. Did not help. The best defense minister of all time and all the crap. I think Rokhlin was not just removed. The real commander was.
  40. bddrus
    bddrus 14 January 2013 10: 38
    0
    By the way, I have vague suspicions, but does France in Mali want to resolve the issue by force?
    Is it far from Mali to Syria? or maybe the custodians are so driving aid to the militants in Syria?
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 14 January 2013 10: 47
      +1
      Quote: bddrus
      Is it far from Mali to Syria?


      Buy a globe.

      Quote: Bezarius
      Syria needs to become a "vassal" of Russia,


      not a vassal, but a member of the SCO. And the fuckers are not happy with everything.
      1. Bezarius
        Bezarius 14 January 2013 12: 21
        0
        Well, by the way, yes. Membership in the SCO would do.
  41. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 14 January 2013 10: 53
    +4
    Zadolbali these residents P and ndostana, like they can do anything, but not Russia. It's time for them to wean from such a position ...
  42. Magadan
    Magadan 14 January 2013 11: 04
    +8
    Our military strength is not only growing. We, in principle, can just sit on our resources and not even try to sculpt iPhones. Touching that we were left ancestors starts to work. Even our land, which is not particularly productive, begins to give benefits, because in the World, sown areas are just dumbly ending.
    In short, we only need to fend off the raids. And for this we are in Syria. We meet the enemy at distant approaches. The enemy will soon be bent. Without resources, on iPhone only you can’t go far. They understand that. Everyone understands this. They will get a snot under Syria - Russia will take off in geopolitics and others will rush for protection. And these are already sales markets (weapons, nuclear power plants, railways, construction of mines, etc.) And liberal methodists will simply be methodically finished
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 January 2013 11: 49
      +3
      If we just sit down on resources, the assaults will not only not stop, but will intensify to such an extent that Russia will fall apart into a dozen autonomous regions. We will never be left alone, but if we have a combat-ready army, we will have development.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 15 January 2013 17: 22
      +1
      Magadan,
      Ai backgrounds and iPads may not need to be sculpted, but high technologies need to be developed. Remember Leskov with a flea.
  43. PROXOR
    PROXOR 14 January 2013 11: 04
    +8
    Well, it's not all Borka to drive a drunken company of paratroopers into Kosovo. It is now 1999 and 2013. And Russia can afford to send a sea fishery division as an "exercise" with the permission of the current authorities. Well, you can also Chechens. Our beards love to shoot, so let these "fighters for democracy" hear the real ALAH AK BAR !!!!))))))
    Syria must be saved !!!! And I'm more than sure that almost the whole country thinks so.
  44. iSpoiler
    iSpoiler 14 January 2013 11: 08
    +1
    But it seems to me that the Ministry of Defense is checking the readiness of the fleet ...
    Near the coast of Syria means near the coast of Syria, because it should be so ...
    We definitely won’t fight there .....
    IMHO .. !!
  45. na76
    na76 14 January 2013 11: 12
    +1
    Well, how many of that landing do we have there? The battalion, probably with reinforcement means, maybe two, so there is no need to think about the participation of this landing in hostilities, however, even the political significance of such a step, if taken, is enormous, many Friends of Syria will ponder ...
  46. webdog
    webdog 14 January 2013 11: 23
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The United States can not do anything. They understand the language of power and nothing more.

    and here I absolutely agree with you.
    they are brought up so that they understand and recognize only power.
    if you make concessions to them, then this is considered a weakness with all the ensuing consequences.
    USSR they were considered VERY-VERY)))
    good examples were fresh in the memory of the Americans ...

    I think so.
  47. merkel1961
    merkel1961 14 January 2013 11: 40
    +3
    Of course, to the West, the hike of our ships to the Syrian shores is like a sickle below the waist! Let them go there to their wet pants! The main thing, and we can only guess a lot, is to fulfill the task that the Fleet has been assigned by the highest military-political leadership of Russia.
  48. Prishtina
    Prishtina 14 January 2013 11: 49
    +2
    Unfortunately, Russia, despite the positive changes in Vneshka, is similar in actions to a fireman who is fighting a fire ... and not the cause of the fire (Arsonists) ... We must break this trend, otherwise fires, incl. and our borders will still have a lot. Burning is always easier than putting out.
    Syria can be defended only by US methods, creating "tension" on the territory of an important US ally (Bahrain, Qatar, Arabia, the United Arab Emirates to choose from) ... Intra-tribal, religious, and clan differences in these Cancers are no less acute than in Syria .. .... You just need to work, and are not afraid to behave arrogantly and cynically.
    Moreover, to bring down the Gulf Monarchies, to wreak havoc on them, this directly answers strategic interests of Moscow.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 14 January 2013 11: 56
      +1
      You are missing one important point. By creating tension in the Middle East, we are creating problems primarily for ourselves. Russia is much closer to Bahrain, etc. And all this tension will be reflected first of all on us. And the United States as they sat overseas, and will sit. In this sense, their geographical location is very advantageous. And we are not yet able to compete with them directly, either in the economy or militarily.
  49. bombowoz
    bombowoz 14 January 2013 11: 49
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    the question is, what next.

    But nothing! We will create fortified areas in key areas, we will stuff them with weapons, maybe we will leave some contingent well and leave a couple of patrolmen for a snack. And we will continue to send the "humanitarian" to the BDK. Let them get drunk with it to vomit,
  50. Tektor
    Tektor 14 January 2013 11: 53
    +1
    Some countries still have a chance, so to speak, to change their orientation: go to the right side of the story... Turkey, for example, if it leaves the NATO bloc. Those who cannot, can only condole ... Alas, they did not "fit into the political market".