Kurds + Turkey = Turkish Federal Republic?

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New year for Turkish Kurds began not easy. In early January, a Turkish court sentenced forty Kurds. They were accused of membership in some kind of terrorist organization - the “city wing” of the Kurdistan Workers' Party - and sentenced to large prison terms: from six to seventeen years.



Despite the fact that the PKK imposed a moratorium on the conduct of hostilities in 2009, since then, several thousand Kurds have been arrested in Turkish territory. These are mainly politicians, lawyers, journalists - that is, those people who could be in the front ranks of supporters of Kurdish autonomy in Turkey.

You also need to know that over the past 15 months in Turkey in "partisan" battles died about xnumx people.

The filling of prisons with Kurds is a bad option for domestic politics, as it constantly exacerbates the national question. Prime Minister Erdogan cannot fail to understand this. Therefore, already a few days after the 40 conviction of the Kurds, it was reported that the Turkish government together with the imprisoned PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan amounted to plan to end a protracted conflict. (During the conflict between Turkey and the PKK, which began in 1984, almost forty thousand people were killed.) According to the Turkish TV channel "T-Vi", a preliminary agreement on the termination of armed clashes was reached during the last round of talks with Mr. Ocalan back in March 2012

According to the latest plan, people from the PKK will lay down weapon in exchange for: 1) granting broader rights to the Kurdish minority; 2) the release of activists sent to prison; 3) enshrined in the new constitution of the country the principle of identity of the Kurdish nation.

It is also reported that representatives of the "Party of Peace and Democracy", which actively supports the Kurds, said: before negotiating for the cessation of hostilities, the Turkish authorities must release Ocalan.

As noted by Olga Haldyz ("Voice of Russia"), the leadership of Turkey for the first time in a long time the Kurdish conflict acknowledged the fact that the National Intelligence Organization was negotiating with Abdullah Ocalan. Earlier news on negotiations between government structures and the PKK leaked to the media from unofficial sources.

The fact is that the conservative segments of Turkish society are negatively related to any dialogue with the separatists. Many Turks simply consider armed Kurds as terrorists. The official “vector” of the Turkish government’s behavior in the Kurdish issue was to deny negotiations with the PKK.

However, in March 2012, a conflict resolution strategy was announced. The main role, as a negotiator, was to be played here by the Peace and Democracy Party represented in the Majlis. At the same time, participation in the Ocalan negotiations was rejected.

The negotiating alignment did not change by itself, but after 2012’s fall in the Turkish prison prisons went on a hunger strike, the objectives of which were: improving the conditions of Öcalan and demanding the expansion of Kurdish rights, including giving them the right to defend themselves in court language.

The hunger strike went on for 67 days and there were no casualties. Abdullah Ocalan put an end to her: he appealed to the protesters with a call to stop it.

Since then, the Turkish government has recognized the authority of Ocalan among the Kurds. And the co-chairman of the Party of Peace and Democracy, Selyattin Demirtas, lucidly explained that if the PKK leader is able to stop the hunger strike with one word, it means that he can also urge the PKK to stop the armed conflict.

However, this turned out to be an attempt to idealize the authority of Ocalan. As soon as the authorities thought about new negotiations, 110 of the PKK militants attacked the gendarmerie in the southeastern province of Hakkari. A representative of the Turkish armed forces perished, two soldiers were wounded. 14 separatists were killed. It became clear that Ocalan was not the only Kurdish leader.

In addition, Turkish Kurds are not the only Kurds in the region. There are still Kurds Iraqi, Iranian and Syrian. Among those who attacked (from Iraq) the gendarmerie, there were a large number of immigrants from Iran and Syria.

The Kurdish problem, we note, no longer has a local character; many Kurds are supporters of the "Great Kurdistan", and not at all autonomy within a separate state. The situation is influenced by the official and private approval of the independence of the Kurds, occasionally reaching out from the US (Galbraith, for example, considers the coming Kurdistan to be Washington’s most important ally). The actions of Bashar al-Assad in Syria also strengthened the position of the Kurds: in the north of Syria, Kurdish autonomy with the army was almost created. The Turkish PKK is in contact with the Syrian Kurds.

Against the background of these events, talks about Kurdish autonomy within the framework of the Turkish state sounded more pronounced in Turkey. Ocalan himself, judging by his statements to the press, is not a separatist, but a supporter of a peaceful transition to Kurdish autonomy. Again, words are one thing, and deeds are another. Nowadays, it is very difficult to believe words.

Nevertheless, today it is difficult to doubt the peaceful intentions of Ocalan, who is in prison. Another issue is that the negotiations are hindered by some "negative" forces. In addition to the attack on the gendarmerie, other attempts are being made to thwart negotiations with Ocalan.

On the night of January 10 in Paris, in the building of the Kurdish Institute, were discovered the bodies of three Kurdish activists shot in the head: Sakine Kansyz, one of the founders of the PKK, Fidan Dogan, representatives of the National Congress of Kurdistan in Brussels, and activists Leila Soylemez. The murder happened on January 9 day. Analysts write that the motive for the crime could be a desire either to destabilize the situation in France, where the large Kurdish diaspora (150 thousand people) lives, or to hinder the process of normalization of Turkish-Kurdish relations.

In Diyarbakir - a city in southeastern Turkey, where Kurds mostly live - more than half a thousand people out to a demonstration in protest against the murder in Paris of three activists of the Workers Party of Kurdistan. The Party of Peace and Democracy called for them to come to the demonstration.

“We are asking the French government to find the killers and give their names to the public.” Now we are experiencing an important period. The experience of past years has shown that every time peace negotiations began, such attacks and provocations always occurred, ”said the deputy of the Peace and Democracy Party, Sirri Sakik.

A representative of the ruling Justice and Development Party, Hussein Djelik, said earlier that “someone wants to thwart the ongoing direct talks with Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan.”

“Murder can be the result of internal hostility in the PKK. We will continue our fight against terrorism, and we want to make progress on this. But there are those who do not like our success. This provocation can come from them, ”said Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

According to him, triple murder is the work of someone from the circle of activists. Erdogan noted that the crime scene is inside the protected area: “The doors are closed from the inside and have combination locks. Not knowing the code can not get inside, and they (the victim) will not open the door to a stranger. " According to the Turkish Prime Minister, this reinforces the version of the involvement of members of the internal environment of the victims in the killings.

The Kurds themselves accuse killing the turkish government.

In the PKK statement, transmitted through the Firat news agency, the killings were condemned and it was said that they were “an attempt to undermine” the negotiations between the Turkish government and Ocalan. The representative of the PKK blamed the death "international forces" and some "hidden forces" in Turkey, and added: "The killings will not go unanswered."

As for the negotiations between the PKK and the Turkish government, Tulin Daloglu, a columnist Al-Monitor and foreign policy analyst (Ankara), does not believe Ocalan’s statements at all. I did not believe before - I do not believe today.

Yes, he writes, there is no doubt that we all want to see an end to the bloodshed, but I feel that the negotiating “work” is basically a show, a game, and its participants seem to pass the ball to each other, not going to score a goal at all. The author says with irony that he hopes to refute his opinion, and undertakes to explain his point of view.

According to the preliminary conditions, the Kurds will lay down their arms if Ocalan is kept not in prison, but under house arrest. In addition, a general amnesty is required for PKK militants.

In turn, the Kurds would have refused in this case from claims to create an independent Kurdistan, and even abandoned attempts to achieve "democratic autonomy." They would no longer try to change the centralized management system in Turkey to the federal one.

Almost 14 years ago, the author writes, when Öcalan was sentenced to life imprisonment, he suddenly declared in the courtroom that the PKK does not fight for the creation of an independent Kurdistan, but only advocates pluralism and political freedom and linguistic rights of the Kurdish people. He claimed that this was all he wanted.

I, the author of the article says, still remember that moment when I looked into the eyes of my foreign colleagues-journalists. They experienced the same bewilderment from Ocalan’s statement that I did. He claimed that he was able to inspire all these people to go to the mountains and start a war only to gain recognition of cultural rights. I did not believe then, and I do not believe it today, the journalist sums up.

Well, let's say, he continues, now Ocalan and his fighters only want this: to ensure their cultural and linguistic rights. Assuming that this is true, then what should Erdogan and Ocalan talk about? Is there already no corresponding policy in the country? Are opening the TRT 6 or Ses channels and Kurdish language courses not steps in the right direction? Of course, such efforts need to continue. Turkey is more democratic today than ten years ago, the author believes.

What is the Kurdish question all about? - the journalist asks himself. - Is it in a democracy?

No, Tulin Daloglu answers himself, the Kurdish question in Turkey really has nothing to do with democratic standards.

Like it or not, Kurdish nationalists want to get their own autonomous region. They want to manage their own Kurdish cities. Selahattin Demirtas, chairman of the “Party of Peace and Democracy,” stated that they “did not abandon their demands for autonomy” of Kurdistan.

Sinan Ulgen, Chairman of the Center for Economic and Foreign Policy Studies (EDAM) in Istanbul, believesthat the Turkish leadership is not at all confident that Ocalan will be able to persuade other leaders and PKK members to abandon the armed struggle. For his part, Ocalan must also doubt that the Turkish government is interested in more than the disarmament of the PKK.

In order to overcome this mutual distrust, the expert believes, a progressive “road map” must be developed at the talks: the more new measures are, the more trust is strengthened by previous measures. Each side takes a specific step, and only then proceeds to the next step. You should start with simple steps and then move on to more complicated ones.

For example, the first step of the Turkish government could be a judicial decision decriminalizing the non-terrorist political activities of the Kurds. This would lead to the release of several hundred Kurdish activists from prisons.

More complex and politically sensitive measures — the general disarmament of the PKK or the improvement of the conditions of Ocalan’s detention — can be resolved later.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. lechatormosis
    +9
    14 January 2013 07: 29
    The deep respect for OJALAN and the shame TO THOSE WHO HANDED HIS TURKS I remember this shameful story where our politicians behaved like the last H ... MO.
    1. +5
      14 January 2013 08: 13
      We should provide the Kurds with information support in their struggle against the Turks.
      Against the background of events in Syria, this would be opportune.
      1. Yarbay
        -3
        14 January 2013 08: 54
        Quote: Bulls.
        We should provide the Kurds with information support in their struggle against the Turks.

        In many ways, the current support for the militants and the fact that the Turks do not particularly criticize Erdogan on this issue is precisely what Syria once actively supported the PKK and provided its territory for terrorist bases !!
        1. +1
          14 January 2013 11: 22
          Quote: Yarbay
          Much of the current militant support

          Well, why and because of what, the Turks support the collapse of Syria, and so it is clear.
          And some insults, the Turks against Assad, have in everything that happens there, the last meaning.
          1. Yarbay
            +1
            14 January 2013 23: 10
            Quote: Bulls.
            And some insults, the Turks against Assad, have in everything that happens there, the last meaning.

            I'm talking about the people, not about Turkey as a state !!
            The support and concealment of terrorists by Assad in Syria at one time led to the fact that the Turkish population is indifferent to the position of Assad and in many ways support opponents !!
      2. 416sd
        +1
        14 January 2013 09: 54
        And you didn’t think about the fact that every stick, especially a multinational stick, always has two ends request
        1. +2
          14 January 2013 11: 31
          Quote: 416sd
          And you didn’t think about the fact that every stick, especially a multinational stick, always has two ends

          Here, only, there is no need to frighten, vain work.
          After all, people (the second end of the multinational stick) are not so stupid,
          how it is customary to think about them, and they understand everything perfectly, about the motivating causes of what is happening.
          1. 416sd
            +1
            14 January 2013 20: 38
            I'm not a scarecrow to scare people, I asked a question with a completely understandable meaning, as I see from the answer ... The answer, which has only an approximate relation to my question ... Then you will ask questions - why and where did I have to shoot the series again " Soak in the toilet 3 ". Separatism is a thing that has a double-edged end ... There are only Kurds in Turkey. And in Russia, everything south of Krasnodar is either Muslims or Turko-Tatars. So already it blazes, then fades away ...

            I am a person very friendly towards Russia, just when they write "let's ..." I want to ask the question "why?" and "what will it give?" ... If I asked you a question, this does not mean that he is a trick, by no means. Please explain to me what is the benefit of the collapse of Turkey as a state for Russia? Leave aside "Constantinople, Suvorov, Shipka, etc." Right now and quite pragmatically, what will it give?

            I don't know if you know or not, but the main sponsor of the PKK since the 1980s .... Israel. And the same USA. Of course, now you are going to give arguments, they say "not so, they are all in NATO," and so on. But you will be wrong. Believe in the debt of work and proximity to the issue and the regions are someone and where, where, and we know here who is behind the PKK. and if you think that independent Kurdistan will run to Russia with open arms and will be "bhai bhai and the CSTO", then these are the dreams of a devil ...

            This has already happened in history when the hands of Russian Russians created problems for 20 years.

            There is only one way out for Turkey and Russia - relations similar to those between Russia and Germany today. Pragmatism. because both are sitting on the same bitch.
            1. 0
              15 January 2013 04: 30
              Quote: 416sd
              Then you will ask questions - why and where did you have to shoot the series "Soak in the outhouse 3" again. Separatism is a thing with a double-edged end ..

              And, you think that the TERRORISTS fighting now against Assad, and supported by the Turks by the way,
              in the future, in case of victory, will not be involved in inciting ethnic and religious conflicts in southern Russia?
              I think they will. And this must be prevented, prevented today.
              1. 416sd
                +1
                15 January 2013 15: 59
                There will be - there is only one customer. It was no coincidence that I wrote about Israel and the United States - today the same Circassian issue "there" is supervised by Abraham Shmulevich, if this name says anything to you.

                By the way, in the form in which you propose the Kurdish question, it can seriously hit not only the Turks, but also the Russian allies, the same Assad and Iran. This is not a Turkish problem, it is a problem in the Middle East.

                Not everything that death is for a Turk is manna for a Russian.
      3. Kubanets
        +1
        14 January 2013 19: 43
        Dear A, Why do not we create an intebrigade I wish more
      4. Lucky
        0
        15 January 2013 19: 20
        We need to arm well, so that they let the Turks crap!
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      14 January 2013 08: 52
      Quote: lehatormoz

      The deep respect for OJALAN and the shame TO THOSE WHO HANDED HIS TURKS I remember this shameful story where our politicians behaved like the last H ... MO.

      How did he earn your respect by being the leader of the terrorists who killed people and traded drugs ??
      After his arrest, it was Ocalan who acted like the last F..MO !!
      After the commandos opened his eyes on the plane, he began to swear love for Turkey and remembered that he had a Turkish grandmother, it was disgusting to look!
      If it’s interesting in the evening I’ll post a video!
      And expressing respect for such a dead terrorist is the same as respecting Maskhadov, Yandarbiev, Umarov!
      1. lechatormosis
        +1
        14 January 2013 14: 53
        Yes, put the video will be interesting to watch.
        Further - who and when and on what basis declared OJALANA a terrorist?
        Next, list his crimes more specifically please.
        Then he was officially admitted to the territory of RUSSIA and expelled from Russia behind the scenes - that’s for HONESTLY WHAT.
        Further, if he fought for the creation of a Kurdish state with the Turks, this does not mean that he is a TERRORIST in MY EYES.
        Further - the INDICATIVE violence in FRANCE of the Kurdish activists (the ears of the Turkish special services are visible) as you can see, the TURKS are also not bent on using terror against their opponents.
        1. Yarbay
          0
          14 January 2013 21: 41
          Quote: lehatormoz
          Further - who and when and on what basis declared OJALANA a terrorist?

          Based on the fact that he led terrorist gangs that killed civilians of the Turkish Republic, including Kurds who did not want to help terrorists, women and children !!
          Quote: lehatormoz
          Then he was officially admitted to the territory of RUSSIA and expelled from Russia behind the scenes - that’s for HONESTLY WHAT.
          Where are the facts that they officially let him in ?? and they kicked him right and did it, the shackles are expelled!
          Quote: lehatormoz
          Further, if he fought for the creation of a Kurdish state with the Turks, this does not mean that he is a TERRORIST in MY EYES.

          He fought killing women and children using terrorist methods !! Then for others, too, Maskhadov, Basaev and Umarov are heroes, do not be indignant at their actions!



          And in France, members of the TERRORIST organization were killed!
          They often kill each other too !!
          Three jackals less !!
          1. Yarbay
            +1
            14 January 2013 21: 54
            This is the original terrorist capture video !!
            and better heard and subtitles are!






            Here, special forces officers ask what to complain about, he says he is burning in the stomach!
            The officer says that let them not be afraid they are responsible for his safety !!

            And Ocalan further says that he loves the Turks, that his mother is Turkish and that he is ready to serve the Turkish people if he is given such an opportunity, to which the officer says that if he wants to serve then let him answer truthfully questions !!
            Repeats several times that he wants to be given the opportunity to serve the Turkish people .. !!

            If you want, I will line up here and his video where he speaks at the trial, that he was used and that he is always ready to serve Turkey, that he was deceived!
      2. Kubanets
        +1
        15 January 2013 01: 32
        They are selling drugs now and in Kosovo. Do you know whose protege? A Bashibuzuki have the right to nat independence
  2. Yarbay
    -8
    14 January 2013 08: 48
    *** They were accused of membership in a certain terrorist organization - the "city wing" of the Kurdistan Workers Party - and sentenced to long prison terms: from six to seventeen years. *** - I do not understand what it means in *** a certain terrorist organization * ** ?? - exactly the PKK !!
    *** Despite the fact that the PKK introduced a moratorium on the conduct of hostilities back in 2009, several thousand Kurds have been arrested on Turkish territory since then. *** - What kind of marorium is it that terrorist attacks only increased after its introduction ?? ?
    In general, another garbage about Turkey !!
    The author is unknown or as usual Tarasov and the Armenian company ??
  3. +2
    14 January 2013 09: 44
    Federation? Hardly. Autonomy for Kurds? Also no. I think everything is as it was and will be. These were our clowns who could talk, take as much sovereignty as you want. In the world, such "generosity" is rare.
  4. +2
    14 January 2013 10: 04
    Alexander of Macedon, traveled from Macedonia to Central Asia, and not with a wreath of peace in his hand, but he is revered by all the peoples of the East! And the historical burping of the conquests of the Ottoman Empire will excite peace and tranquility in this region for a long time to come!
  5. +5
    14 January 2013 10: 54
    The issue of Kurdish autonomy has been discussed for a very long time and it will be decided for a long time. The solution to the Kurdish issue lies, as is most often the case, with the area of ​​political interests of the United States and its satilites (including Turkey) on the one hand and countries opposite the United States in terms of the political vector (Russia, China, etc.). Dear Yarbai states in his commentary that the PKK is a terrorist organization. Maybe. The question is different. Why is the PKK considered by "some" countries as a terrorist organization, and the Syrian rebels as citizens honestly fighting for freedom? The answer, again, lies in the area of ​​political benefits of "some" countries. I am more than confident that if for some reason the ruling regime in Turkey is not pleasing to the United States, the RCP will receive carte blanche and the support of the West in the "fight for freedom"
    1. Yarbay
      -1
      14 January 2013 11: 11
      Quote: bazilio
      Why is the PKK considered by "some" countries as a terrorist organization, and the Syrian rebels as citizens honestly fighting for freedom?

      Dear Basilio, the question is not who recognizes whom whom !!
      In principle, in Syria, some organizations recognized the West as terrorist, but help them)) !!
      The same PKK has been recognized by the USA and many Western countries as terrorist for a long time, but this does not prevent them from helping them !!
      For example, Hollande after the murder of PKK activists admitted that he often met with one of them !! That is, officially recognizing the PKK as terrorist, the USA and Western countries help her!
      But the fact remains, the PKK has been engaged in terror and drug trafficking for decades !!
      Quote: bazilio
      More than sure that if for some reason the ruling regime in Turkey is not acceptable to the United States, the RCP

      Received long ago !!!
      And the issue of Kurdish autonomy cannot be resolved in the near future!
      It's impossible!!
      1. +1
        14 January 2013 11: 46
        Quote: Yarbay
        In principle, in Syria, some organizations recognized the West as terrorist, but help them)) !!


        Since the West’s support for such organizations and their success will give the West political and / or economic benefits and preferences.

        Quote: Yarbay
        Received long ago !!!


        I'm not only talking about financial assistance, but also about weapons, intelligence, experienced "advisers" and "instructors"

        .
        Quote: Yarbay
        And the issue of Kurdish autonomy cannot be resolved in the near future!


        Totally agree
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          14 January 2013 22: 08
          Quote: bazilio
          I'm not only talking about financial assistance, but also about weapons, intelligence, experienced "advisers" and "instructors"

          I, too, about this !!
          Received long ago !!
          1. +1
            15 January 2013 09: 26
            Dear Yarbai. If the West has recognized the PKK as an extremist-terrorist organization, and at the same time supplies it with weapons and other military aid, given that Turkey is a NATO member and an ally in the region, then the West's action, in my opinion, is reduced to the "divide and conquer" model. But there may be other motives as well. If you have your own explanations for this situation, I will be glad to hear
            1. Yarbay
              +3
              15 January 2013 11: 28
              Quote: bazilio
              If you have your own explanations for this situation, I will be glad to hear

              Dear Basilio!
              If the support of the PKK at one time by the Soviet Union was understandable because Turkey is still in NATO, then at first glance the Western countries' support of the PKK is not clear at first glance! But if we look at the actions of the West and their goals, we will see that there is a clear line of conduct in Turkey!
              1. I believe that the support of terrorists is primarily due to the fact that the population in Turkey is preaching Islam and Muslims and not accepting it into the European Union is connected with this and if there were no Western support for the PKK with weapons and instructors, terrorists would have long been bent!
              2. There are plans for the division of Turkey and these plans have long been known!
              3.It is easier to control the political elite of Turkey, sometimes giving them a small * victory * by merging some of the terrorists and gaining * humility * by loud terrorist attacks and escalating the political situation before the elections!
              1. +1
                15 January 2013 17: 15
                Quote: Yarbay
                It’s easier to control Turkey’s political elite, sometimes giving them a small * victory * like a bone


                Well, in general, this is a divide and conquer scheme. keep two opponents in a state of conflict, periodically supporting one side while strengthening the other.
  6. +2
    14 January 2013 13: 45
    The Turkish government does not intend to change the preventive measure for the detained leader of the terrorist organization Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) Abdullah Ocalan for house arrest, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.

    “The issue of house arrest is not for Ocalan. Everything is already clear on this issue, ”said the Prime Minister during a press conference in the capital of Senegal, Dakar, which he visited as part of a trip to three African countries.

    Nevertheless, the prime minister nevertheless made one concession: he ordered the television to be placed in Ocalan’s cell. The head of the prisoner is serving a life sentence in a prison on the island of Imrali in the Sea of ​​Marmara near Istanbul.

    The prime minister spoke about the conditions of Ocalan. The area of ​​his camera is equal to 12 square. m, and it has a radio, which will soon be replaced by a TV.

    The prime minister also spoke out about the murder of three women at the Kurdish Institute in Paris, he urged all parties to be extremely careful in their statements and not to make hasty conclusions before the end of the official investigation. Erdogan did not rule out that these killings could be an attempt to sabotage the ongoing negotiations with the PKK.
  7. +5
    14 January 2013 14: 03
    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan wants to know what connected the French president with the murdered Kurdish activist. As transfers AZE.az, the statement of the President of France that he personally knew one of the murdered Kurdish activists, puzzled the Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The head of the Turkish government, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, asked the French President Francois Hollande in more detail to talk about his ties with one of the victims.
    1. +1
      14 January 2013 15: 53
      Quote: ayyildiz
      The head of the Turkish government, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, asked the French President Francois Hollande in more detail to talk about his ties with one of the victims.

      ABOUT! These French are such naughty and dreamers! From the revelations of Hollande at Ergodan, an erection can happen with subsequent emissions.
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      14 January 2013 22: 13
      Quote: ayyildiz

      Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan wants to know what connected the French President with the murdered Kurdish activist

      TERRORIST
      1. +2
        14 January 2013 22: 26
        A mistake and for my non-attentiveness!
  8. wax
    +2
    14 January 2013 18: 34
    Kurds have a natural right to autonomy. But today autocracy and centralization of power are in vogue with an attempt to infringe on the natural rights of national communities and entities with compact residence. Except in cases where autonomy or even the formation of new states is in the interests of hegemony (an example is Yugoslavia).
  9. +4
    14 January 2013 18: 46
    Military operations against the terrorist Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) will continue at the same time as negotiations on the disarmament of terrorist groups between the Turkish authorities and the PKK leader, Abdullah Ocalan, have been announced, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.

    “As we said earlier, our fight against terrorist groups will continue through military operations. But peace negotiations with the group’s political branch are also possible, ”Erdogan said during a press conference.

    Erdogan stressed that terrorist groups have done everything possible to disrupt the peace talks. Not later than Monday, a group of PKK militants attacked a gendarmerie post near the village of Karatash in the southeastern province of Shyrnak, as a result of the attack, one soldier was killed and two were injured.
  10. Marek Rozny
    +3
    14 January 2013 21: 29
    In the long term, Turkey should be viewed as a candidate for joining the Eurasian Union. Therefore, we do not need a "mine" in the form of Kurdistan. When Turkey is in our zone of influence, it will be possible to develop a program for the resettlement of Kurds deep into the countries of the current CIS - to the Far East or to Kazakhstan, in order to smear the Kurdish population, reduce the potential for conflict in Turkey and solve the problem of the lack of human resources in the Russian Federation and KZ (but without creating autonomies, of course). Moreover, the Kurds are familiar to the Kazakhs - they do not differ much from the Turks in culture, they behave normally when surrounded by Kazakhs. I would rather see a Muslim Kurd next to me (even if someone else's "Turkish bottling") than a Chinese. But this is all in the future. In the meantime, the creation of Kurdish autonomy in Turkey is undesirable, since this is undoubtedly a destabilizing factor for a country that can become our potential ally.
    1. 0
      15 January 2013 13: 24
      For Marek, do Kurds agree to relocate?
      1. Marek Rozny
        0
        15 January 2013 14: 55
        If they are offered normal paid work, housing, and compensation for relocation.
        Naturally, provided that in our countries, the bulk of the population itself will be employed.
        Turkey has a fairly high unemployment rate. The Turks themselves work hard all over the world, including here in Kazakhstan, even in rank-and-file positions at construction sites. Even Latvians are dumping unemployment from their country, let alone the Kurds, especially since the presence of the Kurdish diaspora in KZ will be an additional factor for their possible movement to our country. The main thing is to skillfully "spread" over the territory so that large Kurdish congestions do not turn out. These are our Kurds who are already Russified and rendered, and the "new" Kurds have yet to face this process.
  11. +1
    14 January 2013 23: 02
    At a meeting of the leadership of the Union of Anatolian Entrepreneurs in Istanbul, Erdogan announced his determination to resolve the problem of terrorism

    “Can you imagine that among the founders of the terrorist organization killed in Paris there are those who are wanted by Interpol? President Hollande’s statements that he held regular meetings with the aforementioned persons, posing as a good deed, are even more surprising. The European Union declared this structure a terrorist organization, and how could the French president, despite this, meet on a regular basis with its members wanted by Interpol? Why did the President of France meet with members of such an organization, what did he talk with them, according to what plan were contacts with terrorists - all these questions should be answered immediately by the French, Turkish and world public, ”said Prime Minister Erdogan. Prime Minister Erdogan pointed out that they will not allow various provocations to prevent this process
  12. SA23WSGFG
    0
    15 January 2013 19: 22
    Have you heard the news? The Russian authorities are already insolent in the end. They made this database
    http://guardlink.org/4wQyl1
    where you can find information about any resident of the Baltic countries.
    really was very surprised
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos are different
    character) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...