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Islamization of Russia: Sharia “morality patrols” are just around the corner

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Islamization of Russia: Sharia “morality patrols” are just around the corner

The processes associated with the Islamization of Russia did not begin today or yesterday, but they became most noticeable in the past few months. In the last six months, the public sphere has been stirred up by a number of scandalous stories - here is the public beating of Nikita Zhuravel by Adam Kadyrov (the son of Ramzan Kadyrov) for a religious crime against Islam, and the disappearance of crosses from a number of heraldic symbols and logos of advertising campaigns, and the appearance of “halal” products and maps Sberbank “according to Sharia”.


All this suggests that the processes of Islamization of Russia have entered a stage where it is no longer possible not to notice them and pretend that nothing is happening. Explaining everything that is happening only by Russia’s flirting with the Islamic world (which is the case, which is why Russia did not condemn the actions of Hamas - Moscow considers it important to maintain good relations with Iran) is quite problematic, since we are dealing with a consistent movement.

The Islamization of Russia is associated both with the constant increase in the number of Muslim migrants from Central Asia, many of whom become “new citizens” (see material “New citizens” of Russia with dual citizenship – what is their civic identity?”), and with the Islamization of youth in the Islamic republics of the Russian Federation. Recent events in Dagestan, where an angry crowd of radical Muslims searched for Jews and destroyed the airport, clearly demonstrated these processes of Islamization.

There is another factor in the Islamization of Russia, related to the demographic situation - according to research data, the Russian population of the Russian Federation is rapidly dying out and is gradually being replaced by migrants from Muslim countries.

We will discuss the reasons for the Islamization of Russia and the demographic gap in this material.

What is Islamization?


When it comes to the loss of a people’s cultural identity and traditions and its replacement by another identity, the reaction of a significant part of ordinary people comes down to two positions - either that “now is not the time to talk about it” (I wonder when this wonderful time will come), or to calls for multinational friendship and that “such a problem does not exist, these are all inventions of evil capitalists/Anglo-Saxons/Freemasons.”

The fact that Islam is not just a religion, but a military-political doctrine, a way of life, a special view of the world, the author has already noted in the material ““Global Jihad” is a threat not only to Israel and Europe, but also to Russia" Therefore, in order to move on to a direct consideration of the problem, it is necessary to answer the question - what is Islamization and how is it carried out?

Danish psychologist Nikolai Sennels, author of Holy Wrath: Among Criminal Muslims, notes that the word “Islamization” was originally coined by Muslims to describe the transformation of societies from a state of “kufr” (“infidelity”) to an “enlightened” (Islamic) society* . One way of such transformation is through the destruction and suppression of non-Islamic symbols and traditions.

Islamization as a scientific phenomenon means the process of increasing the influence of Islam in various spheres of public policy and public life, as well as the process of increasing the number of people professing this religion in a region or country. Islamization is carried out through the destruction of indigenous culture, the introduction of Islamic customs, and the creation of a parallel Muslim society that ignores the laws of the host country.

Islam is displacing the original culture, eroding its important life principles. Nikolai Sennels notes that for each new stage of Islamization, the interval between it and the next stage becomes shorter and shorter. It is becoming increasingly easier for Muslims to put forward new demands, justifying them with previously made concessions.

In the first stages, Islamization occurs relatively unnoticed - at first we do not object to the construction of mosques in different areas of a particular city, then we do not object to the use of burqas and niqabs in public places, then we turn a blind eye to the fact that retail premises refuse Christian and national symbols for fear of offending Muslims and losing them as clients.

Then the processes become more noticeable - the Islamization of state symbols occurs, the Islamization of food (“halal products”), the Islamization of the economic sphere (the so-called “Islamic banking”), then the Islamization of institutions, jobs and the rhythm of life occurs, when weekends for Muslim holidays are officially introduced .

At the third stage, the Islamization of jurisprudence begins to occur - at first, law enforcement agencies do not block self-proclaimed “Sharia courts”, lynchings, and the activities of Islamic intermediaries, instead hushing up cases of insults, threats and violence from Muslims and turning to Islamic “authorities” to prevent violence. And then the Islamists infiltrate the law enforcement system, gradually transforming it.

At the final stage, the Sharia “morality police” appear, which begin to conduct raids on public places and look, for example, for girls in short skirts, while the police (in which, as mentioned above, “agents of influence” appeared) remain inactive and pretend that nothing is happening. At this starting point, the Islamization of the country is already inevitable.

Having understood what Islamization is, let’s move on to the issue of Islamization of Russia.

Islamization of Russia: some statistics


According to official statistics, at the beginning of 2023, about 20 million Muslims live in Russia, which is about 15% of the population. In some regions, for example, Dagestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya, more than 95% of the inhabitants profess Islam.

According to census data, the total number of representatives of traditionally Islamic peoples was: in 1959 - 7 million people (6% of the Russian population), in 1970 - 9 million (7%), in 1989 - 12 million (8%), in 2002 - 15 million (10%), in 2022 – 20 million people (15%). If the trend continues, then in 2050 Russia will have, say, 110 million inhabitants, and of these, 30 million ethnic Muslims (27%)**.

However, the growth trend of the Muslim population is greatly underestimated. After all, Russia is being overwhelmed by massive migration, legal and illegal, from traditionally Muslim countries, and it cannot be counted. According to minimal estimates, there are between a million and two illegal migrants in Moscow alone.

The migration flow has increased sharply in recent years and is increasing, while natural population decline continues to accelerate at a progressive pace. Thus, in 2000, only 93 people migrated to Russia, and in 000 - already 2011, and if the index of compensation for natural losses in 320 due to migration was equal to 000%, then by 2000 it had already become equal to 30%. Consequently, almost half of the population is replaced by migrants**.

Researchers note that if the process of Islamization continues at this pace, then, given that the replacement of the natural population due to the flow of migrants, among whom the overwhelming majority are mainly preaching Islam, reaches 45%, then we can get an 80% or more Islamized Russia already by 2050.

And how many actual Russians will remain in Russia by that time, taking into account the fact that the share of the Slavic population (as well as its total number) in Russia is constantly decreasing?

The demographic crisis and Islamization are a direct relationship


Following statistical data, the total fertility rate (TFR) in Russia in 2019 was 1,5 children per woman (see table), and in a number of Russian regions of the Russian Federation the regional TFR is even lower. For example, in the Smolensk region it is 1,13, and in the Tula region - 1,22. In other words, the average Russian family has about 1 child, which means that Russians are dying out at about twice the rate per generation. For the reproduction of the people, a birth rate of 2,1 is required.


In a quarter (22 out of 85) of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, the total fertility rate in 2019 was lower than in 2015 by 20% or more. In 2019, the birth rate for the 20–24 age group in Russia was the lowest since at least 1959. However, a higher value of the total fertility rate in 2019 compared to 2017 is observed in the republics: Ingushetia (by 3,0%) and Karachay-Cherkess (by 3,2%)***.

It should be emphasized here that the demographic catastrophe in the Russian Federation has a pronounced ethnic connotation - it exists mainly in regions with an overwhelming number of Russian population and is absent in other regions of the Russian Federation - for example, Chechnya, Dagestan, Tyva and Ingushetia have a natural population increase. It is for this reason that it would be incorrect to talk only about economic reasons for the fact that Russian women do not give birth.

Do not forget that in the most prosperous and rich countries of Western Europe, for example, Germany, the birth rate over the past 20 years has been in the range from 1,3 to 1,5, as in the Russian regions of the Russian Federation. At the same time, countries with the highest demographic indicators are among the poorest countries in the world - Angola, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

It would also be incorrect to say that the demographic catastrophe in Russia was only the result of the collapse of the USSR - of course, this was one of the factors accelerating the decline in the birth rate, but statistics indicate that the birth rate in Russia began to decline back in the 1960s: in 1960 by For every 1 population, 000 people were born per year, in 23,2 – already 1980; and in 15,9 – 2010.

One of the key reasons for the decline in the birth rate is the destruction of the traditional institution of the family, and statistics confirm this - according to EMISS, in 2020, 73% of marriages in Russia broke up, for comparison: in 2018 and 2019, 65% of marriages broke up. However, consideration of the reasons for the extinction of the Russian population is a topic for a separate article.

The main thing I would like to note is that, according to experts, Russians in Russia are dying out at a rate of about 1 million people per year. If current demographic trends continue, the number of Russians in Russia in 30 years will decrease by 30 million people (more than 22% of the total population at the moment). How many Muslim migrants there will be in Russia by then is an open question.

Conclusion


Thus, from all of the above, a disappointing conclusion suggests itself - if migration policy, the policy of tolerance and “multinational friendship” do not change, and the demographic situation in Russia does not improve, by 2050 (in fact, already in the 2040s) Muslims in Russia will become the majority, which means complete Islamization of the Russian Federation may occur. This is unless, of course, radical Islamists try to shake up the situation and seize power into their own hands earlier.

Flirting with radical Islamists and making concessions for those who commit illegal acts will only lead to them becoming increasingly convinced that they can put pressure on the authorities and achieve results.

Many people forget that Islamization also implies disloyalty of Muslims to non-Islamic authorities, when they recognize only their own as authorities. This is really dangerous for the state.

Notes:
*Sennels N. What is Islamization? An attempt at an analysis approach. – 2011. [Electronic resource] URL: http://gabblgob.livejoumal.com/665205.html.
**Belgarokova N. M. Islamization of Russia - realities and prospects. [Electronic resource] URL: https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/islamizatsiya-rossii-realii-i-perspektivy.
***Demographic development of Russia: trends, forecasts, measures. National demographic report - 2020 / S. V. Ryazantsev, V. N. Arkhangelsky, O. D. Vorobyova [etc.]; Rep. ed. S. V. Ryazantsev. – M.: United Edition LLC, 2020.
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  1. My address
    My address 5 November 2023 04: 31
    +25
    And what do you want?
    Our president will point out the shortcomings and failures, and will give instructions to those who allowed them to fight the shortcomings and failures. Also, ask production workers what they do in decent production with those who have failed at least once, and how this encourages good work from those who are also capable of failure.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 5 November 2023 04: 38
      +21
      Putin supported the initiative to build a mosque in Patriot Park
      Russian President Vladimir Putin supported the idea of ​​building a mosque in the Patriot Park of the Russian Armed Forces in the Moscow region in response to the invitation of the Chairman of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims of the Russian Federation Ravil Gainutdin to take part in the ceremony of laying a memorial stone at the construction site.
      RuNews24.ru
      04:38
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 5 November 2023 07: 13
        +23
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Putin supported the initiative to build a mosque in Patriot Park

        Symbolic. He did exactly what a modern patriot is capable of.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 5 November 2023 11: 05
          +18
          In many large cities of the Russian Federation there are several Muslim societies for Muslims of the Russian Federation. (including those from Dgestan) as well as societies of visiting Muslim migrant workers. And Russian societies. Whether here or in neighboring countries. Are ours doing anything? I didn't hear anything
          1. Tank destroyerSU-100
            Tank destroyerSU-100 5 November 2023 15: 56
            +14
            For Russian society - Article 282.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 5 November 2023 16: 53
              +7
              Quote: Tank DestroyerSU-100
              For Russian society - Article 282.

              For example, the “Youth Union of Tajikistan in the Russian Federation” planned an action in Moscow 9-10 years ago. They didn't allow it. I didn’t find anything about Russian societies in the former Soviet ones. And our bosses don’t go anywhere to check how Russians live there. Yes, there is a program for the return of compatriots, I wonder who there are more. Returning compatriots from the SA republics or “those who came in large numbers” who received citizenship recourse And from the SA they came to “control”. I wonder how it ended.
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 5 November 2023 17: 10
                +9
                Russian societies in the former Soviet
                This happened in Latvia. Depressing sight Yes . It is not known exactly how much they stole from their pockets.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 5 November 2023 18: 19
                  +6
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  ..... Yes . It is not known exactly how much they stole from their pockets.

                  I don't know anything about this. Who took it away? Those who wanted to “be friends” with Russia and “maintain” “relations?”
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 5 November 2023 18: 32
                    +5
                    who wanted to be “friends” with Russia
                    Those ethnic Russians who defended the interests of Russian speakers and promoted the ideas of the Russian world, receiving funding from the embassy for this cause.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 5 November 2023 19: 16
                      +3
                      About pulling apart it is necessary strongly recourse think.... On the Maidan, 2014, supposedly the staff members spent $$$ 5 billion, as Kennedy Jr. said. And before that, they also laid out billions. And now to war too. And our bourgeois capitalists thought that after the destruction of the USSR, which proposed a project for the future for the whole world, and which was often helped “for the idea,” they would also help bourgeois Russia..... When the post-perestroika people themselves They took everything away from their country.
                      And the current assistance of the SA to its neighbors without gratitude and repayment of debts.
                      1. karabas-barabas
                        karabas-barabas 7 November 2023 01: 56
                        +2
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        On Maidan, 2014, supposedly the staff members spent $$$ 5 billion, as Kennedy Jr. said.

                        You apparently did not understand what Kenedy said, or you were not translated correctly, or you took part of his speech out of context. And he and not only him said that since 1991, $5 billion has been spent on Ukrainian “democratic institutions”, the judicial system, parliament, elections, studies in the West and the USA, etc. Since 1991, Americans have spent no less to help establish similar institutions in the Russian Federation, and many of today’s United Russia members gladly accepted American grants in the 90s. And the people should help themselves, first of all, and not rely on anyone.
      2. bayard
        bayard 5 November 2023 13: 52
        +21
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Russian President Vladimir Putin supported the idea of ​​​​building a mosque in the Patriot Park of the Russian Armed Forces in the Moscow region

        When the state does not have its own ideology - a Positive Ideology aimed at a Bright Future... its place is replaced by Obscurantism and religious egregors. And religious buildings are growing like... mushrooms after rain, instead of factories, hospitals, schools and other useful infrastructure. And in these places of worship they impose, on some, that they are SLAVES... on others, that they are “soldiers of Allah” and their task is to take their cities from the Russians.
        Do you remember WHAT the eradication of illiteracy in the USSR began with?
        "WE ARE NOT SLAVES"!!
        "WE ARE NOT SLAVES"!!!
        But the Russian authorities think differently.
        Like Gundyaev, who claims that “The Russians were worse than animals” ... and even “speaked unintelligibly” No. I don’t know what this citizen’s native language is, but it would be better for him, instead of money-grubbing from parishioners, to engage in charity work and helping wounded soldiers.
        Wars are not won with icons. Nikola-2 sent whole carloads of icons to Manchuria and Port Arthur, but achieved nothing except shame from mediocre generals.
        Wars are won by Strong Armies, Powerful Economies and United (Multinational - yes, yes) People. And if the People are separated into nationalities and “nations” by religion and hostile ideology... and even concentrated incompetent people in power... You can only get “Upper Lars storm troopers” and “Frightened Patriots” in Dubai.
        Stalin and the entire Soviet leadership had children die at the fronts... but that’s something else. Then the Power served the People. And now power is in control.
        And the Owner needs just that - slaves and watchmen.
        But until they see you as Prey.
        And suddenly such a surprise happens that only those whom the government has made slaves for 32 years are able to protect it... And in the very first days the guards backed down. what And nothing foreshadowed... request
        And the Bolsheviks brought the planet out of the “bast shoes” in just 10 years of Industrialization of the USSR into the Second Economy of the planet! For industrial production!!
        And neither oil nor gas were leaked to enemies...
        And here we have been “getting up from our knees” for 23 years, but we haven’t even created our own sovereign Financial System. From Industrial Kollos to the mice of “post-industrial society” ... they “evolved” along the liberal-revolutionary path of the “wisdom” of Gaidar and Chubais.
        It would be necessary to build a couple of bell towers as tall as the Ostankino Tower (with public money, of course). fellow Then we will definitely win.
        Place these towers side by side and call them, when “illuminated,” “The Horns of the Most Holy Liberalism.”
        Or maybe it would be better to build a dozen machine tool factories?
        A couple of new aircraft factories?
        Five shipyards from scratch, so that there would be somewhere to build merchant ships and warships?
        The choice is difficult... what
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 7 November 2023 09: 41
          +1
          “Like Gundyaev, who claims that “The Russians were worse than animals” ... and even “speaked unintelligibly” no I don’t know what this citizen’s native language is, but it would be better for him, instead of money-grubbing from parishioners, to do charity work and help wounded soldiers. "
          But
    2. Romanovski
      Romanovski 5 November 2023 14: 00
      -4
      The salvation of Russia is a return to the ORTHODOX FAITH, the revival of the Russian village and the centuries-old FRIENDSHIP OF THE PEOPLES OF THE RF...Not all Russian (and not only) Muslims are delighted with their fanatics and radicals..
      RUSSIA must
      and is obliged to refuse to spread Western ideology in the media.... Religious sects that began to multiply in the Russian Federation and the CIS with the light hand (permission) of the Ministry of Justice and under the plausible sauce of “freedom of religion” are also a Blow to the UNITY of the Russian people and note that the blow is very strong...Behind almost all these totalitarian sects, the ears of NATO intelligence services are visible...The abolition of the death penalty in the Russian Federation is also a gross mistake...And why can’t the same West force the USA and Japan to abolish the death penalty??? It was AFTER the abolition of the death penalty in the Russian Federation in the early 90s of the last century that Russia was overwhelmed by the ninth wave of crime, corruption, embezzlement and terrorism... The West is hypocritical and uses the demand for the abolition of the death penalty as a weapon against intractable countries... Why??? Because the Western intelligence services themselves have long and actively used “delicate-wet” methods in their work and this is no secret to anyone...No one uses white gloves...Russia can study the successful experience of China, Vietnam, Iran, UAE, Singapore in the economic, social and government spheres and taking into account Russian specifics, apply everything useful and successful in Russia.
      1. Pushkar
        Pushkar 6 November 2023 12: 55
        +14
        Quote from Romanovski
        The salvation of Russia is a return to the ORTHODOX FAITH

        Are you waiting for help from ROC LLC for the country and people? Remind me how the rise of the Russian Orthodox Church began in the 90s? From the duty-free import of alcohol (remember Royal alcohol?) and tobacco products into Russia, from the construction of churches using budget funds instead of schools and hospitals. The parasites have never helped anyone except the ruling class. So, we have a new ideology and new holidays, the day before yesterday there was one.
    3. Ilgizl
      Ilgizl 8 November 2023 00: 53
      +1
      Stalin not only gave instructions, but also harshly punished them for non-fulfillment.
  2. Eugene Zaboy
    Eugene Zaboy 5 November 2023 04: 46
    -30
    It is unlikely that the risk of Islamization of Russia is higher than the risk of Judaization, or Jewishization (if you like), or Buddhistization. Russia is a multinational country and all religions have the right to exist, with the exception of radical movements. In the UK, if I’m not mistaken, marriages under Sharia law are already considered the norm. Does this mean that Islamization is a fait accompli in Great Britain or not?
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 5 November 2023 07: 07
      +16
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      It is unlikely that the risk of Islamization of Russia is higher than the risk of Judaization, or Jewishization

      And in Dagestan as well?
      1. ZloyCat
        ZloyCat 5 November 2023 10: 26
        +22
        "And in Dagestan as well?"
        So Dagestan is not Russia, just like Chechnya. this is: “a parallel Muslim society that ignores the laws of the host country,” their strained protruding religiosity suggests that the efforts of all kinds of mullahs were not in vain, and in a secular country, with the complete connivance and indifference of the authorities, a tangle of young and hungry warriors of Islam was created, ready to everything that the “spiritual leaders”, the same mullahs, and other experts on the Koran command by heart. these so-called “republics” turned into caliphates, still accumulating forces. but this is for now, as long as Putin gives them money. what will happen next is difficult to say, it depends on who comes to replace him, a common man, or a sincere patriot of Russia
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 5 November 2023 11: 30
          +6
          The rhetoric has changed, literally among different nationalists. They no longer say that they are being oppressed. And about their
          Russia occupied
          Who was the first to talk about the occupation?
          Underbalts, perhaps? More than 30 years ago But TODAY both in the SA and in our Russian republics there are such “activists” That’s what. This process has been going on for many years now. And what are the Russian authorities doing?
          Quote: ZloyKot
          “And in Dagestan as well?”............. with the complete connivance and indifference of the authorities, a tangle of young and hungry warriors of Islam was created, ....

          For example, in Dagestan there was a branch of the Islamic Renaissance Party (Hizb ut-Tahir al Islami), which was recognized as a terrorist organization by the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation back in 2003. However, despite this, they carried out, or tried to hold, protest actions until 2013... At the same time, the Dagestan police stopped these actions, carried out work and they stopped
    2. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 5 November 2023 09: 20
      +13
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      It is unlikely that the risk of Islamization of Russia is higher than the risk of Judaization, or Jewishization (if you like), or Buddhistization.


      Just in Russia, the risk of Islamization is very high, due to the Muslim regions of Russia, where the birth rate is high + due to the migration policy, where the indigenous population is being replaced by visitors from Central Asia. As for the followers of Judaism/Buddhism in Russia, this is a relatively small number and there is no reason for it to increase; if the figure grows, it will be insignificant.

      The same processes are happening in Europe: mass migration/low birth rate among the indigenous population/population replacement - a decrease in the proportion of Christians and an increase in Muslims, etc. - in fact, the same picture is observed.

      Now let’s take Japan, South Korea and, separately, China. What is their peculiarity, and why these countries as an example? In Japan/South Caucasus, the positions of Buddhism, Shinto, Confucianism and other religions are traditionally strong there... Islam has not taken root there, and I am inclined to believe that this is a deliberate policy of local authorities to protect their traditions (since the proportion of Muslims in these countries is not growing and states are monitoring these processes quite closely). The same goes for the PRC, where the authorities are very closely monitoring the Islamization of the population, of course there are indigenous peoples who historically profess Islam, but there is no mass spread... the reason? state policy.

      In general, if Russia wants to slow down these processes (Islamization), then it is necessary to completely reconsider migration policy, put up barriers to preserve traditional values ​​and our culture, provide additional support for the Russian population (increase the birth rate in certain regions of Russia), etc. d. - if this does not happen, then the consequences will not keep you waiting.
      1. populist
        populist 5 November 2023 09: 37
        +13
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        if in Russia they want to slow down these processes (Islamization)

        There is no one to want. Cosmopolitans are in power. negative
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 5 November 2023 11: 35
          +13
          Rather, they are simply conscious destroyers of the country.
      2. Dmitry Ivanov_1991
        Dmitry Ivanov_1991 5 November 2023 17: 18
        +15
        In Japan, when receiving a visa, they ask: are you a Muslim? (if yes, then the chance of getting it right away is 50/50), the second is whether you will publicly display symbols of your faith - if the answer is YES (the chance of getting a visa is 0%). Therefore, there are no rug worshipers, no Orthodox religious processions and other Jewish dances. You can’t publicly display symbols of someone else’s faith - in a temple, you can, but again without imams screaming all over the street, moaning into the loudspeaker. That's why Muslims don't appear in Japan - they are officially deported.
      3. AdAstra
        AdAstra 7 November 2023 09: 44
        0
        If my memory serves me correctly, I could be wrong, but in Japan Islam is generally prohibited.
    3. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 5 November 2023 12: 44
      +2
      In the UK, if I’m not mistaken, marriages under Sharia law are already considered the norm.
      No, they don't count. There have been attempts to make this a reality, but national family law is the only one and marriages must be officially registered. In addition to this, no one is stopping you from getting married in a mosque or synagogue or in a Rastafari church, but you must comply with the laws of Britain.
      Islamization of food (“halal products”)
      But here, I think, there are no problems. Serve kosher to whom, Italian to whom, vegan to each - to each his own. if it is not imposed, there are no problems. In China, in large cities there are halal butchers and restaurants, just as in the Emirates there are non-halal shops where you can buy bacon and ham - and everyone is alive. And halal product certification is also beneficial because of the opportunity to export products to large and growing markets, where, moreover, there is no prejudice against Russian products.
    4. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 5 November 2023 13: 21
      +5
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      It is unlikely that the risk of Islamization of Russia is higher than the risk of Judaization, or Jewishization (if you like), or Buddhistization.

      There was never any talk of the forced spread of Buddhism.
    5. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 9 November 2023 12: 06
      +1
      "higher than the risk of Judaization" ///
      ----
      This is definitely not a threat laughing
      Jews are strictly forbidden to encourage anyone to convert to Judaism.
      Both rabbis and other Jews are prohibited.
      Judaism has not been a missionary religion for about 1500 years
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 5 November 2023 04: 50
    +18
    Things are bad... what We don’t have enough problems with alien ethnobandits, but the guarantor of the constitution is throwing something at us... it feels like he lives on another planet and is completely divorced from the real life of ordinary citizens... I don’t understand his actions... one mistake after another comes with dire consequences. request
    1. sadam2
      sadam2 5 November 2023 05: 16
      +26
      Lech, how about it?
      a million a year...minus 30 million without any war for such a huge country...or half-wild Tajiks or little Chinese, those aliens will squeeze the country like a rag for inexpensively
      I have a lot of Azat Uzbeks in Nakhodka - two in her arms and two behind her. They don’t go to ship repairs or go to sea - they sell vegetables. there is almost zero sense, only crime and without them the city is empty...
      girls don't give birth. more and more men are signing up for war not because of a good life
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 5 November 2023 05: 43
        +4
        The problem is that Tajiks, Uzbeks, Chinese and other visiting guests are not eager to assimilate into our world.
        They create their own Chinatowns... they crush local businesses, expel local residents and then begin to dictate their terms to the authorities (so to speak, a creeping occupation of the territory)... everything will end the same as in Kosovo or Palestine... where the Albanians and Jews expelled Serbs and Palestinians from their lands and formed their own state with the support of the West.
        In our case, these destructive processes are actively supported by Turkey and England in the south and Caucasus of Russia and Brussels in the central part of the country, not to mention our direct enemy the USA ... do not forget about the interests of China in the Far East.
        In general, dangers await our state from all sides.
        The problem of Islamization of Russia is not yet the worst.
        1. Dutchman Michel
          Dutchman Michel 5 November 2023 06: 46
          +12
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          then they begin to dictate their terms to the authorities

          That is, to establish the same orders from which they left, and some fled from their native countries laughing
          1. ZloyCat
            ZloyCat 5 November 2023 10: 36
            +6
            “That is, to establish the same orders from which they left, and some fled from their native countries.”
            They came to us not because of problems, but for money. well, and relax a little from your Sharia law, with vodka and women
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 5 November 2023 11: 21
              +12
              Quote: ZloyKot
              They came to us not because of problems, but for money. well, and relax a little from your Sharia law, with vodka and women

              By the way, they are not leaving “Sharia”. On the contrary, the Central Asian republics are fighting against radicalism. Therefore, some especially “devout” people go to Russia - here you can grow a beard of any length and put on a hijab.
        2. Dimy4
          Dimy4 5 November 2023 08: 50
          +21
          In our case, these destructive processes are actively supported by Türkiye and England

          In our case, these processes are supported by the Kremlin.
        3. ZloyCat
          ZloyCat 5 November 2023 10: 34
          +8
          “In our case, these destructive processes are actively supported by Turkey and England in the south and Caucasus of Russia and Brussels in the central part of the country, not to mention our direct enemy the USA... do not forget about the interests of China in the Far East”
          All these processes are actively supported by both our government and our president. this is, whatever one may say, a rather influential support group
        4. g0ryachevnn
          g0ryachevnn 5 November 2023 11: 05
          +17
          The most terrible problem and the only one is the current Kremlin and everything around it
        5. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 5 November 2023 13: 29
          +4
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          .... The problem of Islamization of Russia is not yet the worst.

          The worst thing is ---- this is a theory invented in the West decolonization Russia. It is being implemented by the creation of different societies, both here and in the West. And Islamists, at their protests, now say that Russia colonized them. And they don’t even assume that many small nations would not have survived without Russia and the USSR.
        6. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 5 November 2023 23: 20
          +1
          There is another factor in the Islamization of Russia, related to the demographic situation - according to research data, the Russian population of the Russian Federation is rapidly dying out and is gradually being replaced by migrants from Muslim countries.

          Is the Russian ethnos almost following the path of the “last of the Mohicans”?
          But when the percentage of non-Russians in Russia exceeds 50%, Russia will no longer be a state in Eurasia - it will simply be cut up into principalities and villages....
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 5 November 2023 06: 05
      +14
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      it feels like he lives on another planet and is completely divorced from the real life of ordinary citizens...I don’t understand his actions... one mistake after another comes with dire consequences.

      What's unclear here? And, if you imagine that he is following the recommendations of those who brought the inconspicuous head of the club with a well-spoken tongue to the Russian presidency, then all the puzzles will fit together... Yes
    3. FoBoss_VM
      FoBoss_VM 5 November 2023 07: 18
      +21
      Or maybe it's simpler? And it's not about another planet. Why are Shoigu, Nabiullina, Siluanov, Manturov, Gref, Sechin, Miller, Gerasimov, Volodin, Matvienko and Peskov still at the helm? Why aren’t they under investigation and serving long terms? Why are Abubandites encouraged and pampered and cherished? Maybe he is that very fifth column, only its most dangerous part, hidden. Pretending to be patriots but absolutely not being one? Think
      1. Dmitry Ivanov_1991
        Dmitry Ivanov_1991 5 November 2023 17: 21
        +7
        +1
        Putin is not to blame - these are the bad boyars.
        I’ll go vote for him again in 2024. who? if not him?
        He will raise Russia from its knees. I’ve been lifting for 23 years, now I’ll definitely lift it!
      2. Pushkar
        Pushkar 6 November 2023 13: 07
        0
        Quote from: FoBoss_VM
        Why are Shoigu, Nabiullina, Siluanov, Manturov, Gref, Sechin, Miller, Gerasimov, Volodin, Matvienko and Peskov still at the helm?

        I would remove Gerasimov from the list. A career general, smart, but just a performer.
    4. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 5 November 2023 07: 34
      +11
      Look, all these halal products in stores (well, there are only a few of us here who profess Islam in the villages of Kuban), the Sberbank map shows that the leadership of the structures is already full of decision-makers to squeeze out Christianity. This is not the “religious tolerance” that they talk about Kremlin, this is starting a fire in the country
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 5 November 2023 08: 52
        +3
        shows that the leadership of structures is already full of decision-makers to squeeze out Christianity.
        This only shows that the Constitution is being violated, which states that the state is secular, religions are separate, the state is separate. And all the halal products and deposits there are just a reason to incite inter-religious hatred. To pacify which will require a dictatorship, the abolition of the remaining freedoms and rights. And it will come, no doubt...
        1. Pushkar
          Pushkar 6 November 2023 13: 10
          +1
          Quote: parusnik
          The Constitution is being violated, which states that the state is secular, religions are separate, and the state is separate.

          But what about God (with a capital G), which is spelled out in the Constitution?
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 November 2023 09: 09
        +8
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        halal products

        Somehow it appeared unnoticed, it is not clear when and quickly spread. I wonder, is it possible for a Christian to eat sausages made from chicken whose throat has been ripped open to the howl of “Allahu Akbar”?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 5 November 2023 11: 38
          +12
          I will continue your question. But a Christian can go to church. which was built by Muslims?
      3. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 5 November 2023 16: 11
        0
        No, this indicates that our problems in the economy are worsening and the bureaucrats are frantically thinking about where to attach credit products and more microfinance services. For example, someone comes from Central Asia, where he is used to eating more or less natural yum (if we are talking about people from rural areas) - but here it will cost a pretty penny, and therefore he will be denying himself something instead of eating everything , he will have a different basket of needs. All these “halal” products are designed to squeeze into its consumer basket (for the most part) an extremely cheap and low-quality product segment, which within the country has already lost its attractiveness among the population.
        Many people sit on the furry paw of Islamization where everything can be explained much more simply - MONEY. You see, you turn on the TV and soon you see an advertisement - what are they advertising there? Mobile tariffs and credit products for the most part. In this environment, the bureaucrats have greater competition, and therefore they naturally began to be lenient for smaller target groups and act more delicately.

        Here many people ask “oh, oh, when did it all start?!” - yes, then it started when in every market you had a choice of 3-4 pita breads and 2-3 flatbreads. Many, of course, were bothered by this - but the question is, why did this appear? This is correct - due to the fact that “those who came in large numbers” began to make up a visible share in the overall consumer community, sufficient for sustainable profits from the production of targeted products.
        Since gentlemen migrants are consuming lavash, why not shove sausages into it for them, and for other things they won’t have to wait long either.
        But the more or less “luxury” segment is in no particular hurry - and why? Because a tiny fraction of this target group will consume luxury goods. If we look into “Taste of Villas”, we will not find much nonsense there under “that’s all,” so it’s too early to say that we are tightly entangled in tentacles - it’s just a business working with a subgroup within the community. The subgroup is relatively stable - trends in product expansion do not indicate its growth, but not an increase in internal competition for consumers.
        1. Yaroslav Tekkel
          Yaroslav Tekkel 6 November 2023 18: 09
          +2
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          All these “halal” products are designed to squeeze into its consumer basket (for the most part) an extremely cheap and low-quality product segment, which within the country has already lost its attractiveness among the population.


          In St. Petersburg (well, in Murino, at least) halal stores are even more expensive than regular ones.
  4. ivan2022
    ivan2022 5 November 2023 05: 54
    +14
    One Uzbek said: “Why, if I ask a Russian-you are Russian?" , the Russian begins to explain which of his relatives is not Russian?? ".

    Simultaneously and on the backs of “patriotic” jackets you read the word Russia in Latin letters, and there are a lot of Anglicisms in the language, but migrants also learned to hug and kiss when they meet and grow beards in the Chechen manner..... And what kind of nation is this?

    And in my opinion all this together is disgusting to the point of vomiting....
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 5 November 2023 06: 25
      +12
      Quote: ivan2022
      And in my opinion all this together is disgusting to the point of vomiting....

      It's sickening to hear this:

      It’s also disgusting that for more than three decades, despite the fact that:
      1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.

      and even:
      1. The Russian Federation is a secular state. No religion can be established as a state or mandatory.
      2. Religious associations are separated from the state and are equal before the law.

      Besides:
      2. Propaganda or agitation that incite social, racial, national or religious hatred and enmity is not allowed. Propagation of social, racial, national, religious or linguistic superiority is prohibited.

      The country is ruled by the power of money, state anarchy (we have ideological diversity) and objects that have nothing to do with the state are built using budget funds.
      * * *
      A good start for the fact that the country will turn into a crowd of people who are building a new Tower of Babel...
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 5 November 2023 06: 59
      +11
      Quote: ivan2022
      One Uzbek said: “Why, if I ask a Russian, are you Russian?” , the Russian begins to explain which of his relatives is not Russian?? ".

      Like. Yes, but I have so much blood in me that I am the brother of any Uzbek! A familiar story.
    3. Stanislav_Shishkin
      Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 08: 10
      -15
      Quote: ivan2022
      learned from migrants... to grow beards in the Chechen style
      It’s the other way around: they learned from the French to scrape their mugs in order to appear younger, like boys. Among the people, these types were initially divided as “honest brada” and “bare-cheeked”; feel the difference. You use “neatness” as an excuse. The purpose of this procedure is not to be, but to appear. Why don’t you shave your head, groin, armpits, etc. with the same frenzy? Where you can’t see, you can be “untidy”, even if you grow scabs? Have you tried washing yourself? There are no “rudiments” or “atavisms” in organisms; there are only functions and processes unknown to science. If you like yourself shaved, shave, but you shouldn’t make a standard out of yourself and your habits.
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 5 November 2023 12: 26
        0
        It’s the other way around: we learned from the French to scrape our mugs,

        Previously in Rus' they called it that way - “Scraped snout”.
    4. Stanislav_Shishkin
      Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 10: 39
      -13
      Quote: ivan2022
      And in my opinion all this together is disgusting to the point of vomiting....
      And as vomit, Russian Nazism is born, which those who understand that this is the surest way to blow up interethnic peace in the Russian Federation have been trying to stir it up since 1986.
      1. Puzoter
        Puzoter 9 November 2023 14: 43
        0
        Because of these horror stories, a Russian is already ashamed to call himself Russian - they immediately label him a Nazi or a chauvinist. Don’t forget the other extreme - if Russian self-awareness is completely eroded, then this will be the end of Russia, and sudden, like the collapse of a clay colossus. And at the same time, no criminal article can restore this self-awareness.
  5. Belisarius
    Belisarius 5 November 2023 05: 59
    +27
    The article is not bad, but disingenuous. The author deliberately searches not where he lost, but where there is light.
    The reality is that Islamization is driven by conscious policy of the Russian authorities .
    After all, migrants are brought in not on their own, not by the Holy Spirit, but in the course of very specific socio-economic practices carried out by the Russian Federation.
    The unequal attitude towards violations of the law for Russians and non-Russians, where it is Russians who become most deprived of their rights and are unprotected, is also not a natural phenomenon, but the result of criminal procedural practice.
    Just like flirting with religion (while mockingly preserving the principle of a secular state in the constitution) is a conscious practice of the authorities.
    Accordingly, if we seriously talk about the danger of Islamization, then we should either change the government in the Russian Federation or somehow persuade/convince/force the current government to change its policy.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 5 November 2023 06: 56
      +19
      Quote: Belisarius
      somehow persuade/convince/force the current government to change its policy.

      I don’t know who can persuade them. And certainly not the people who were abandoned by the pension reform.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 5 November 2023 09: 46
      +12
      When they write about the problems of the rights of Christians, Muslims, and Jews, they immediately forget about the violation of the rights of atheists. laughing They don’t seem to be noticed. Well, they’re a minority now. They’re unspiritual, not like believers of all faiths. In the opinion of all believers, they are worse than LGBT people; if it were the will of all believers, they would burn atheists at the stake laughing for the sake of order.
    3. Aleksey7777777
      Aleksey7777777 5 November 2023 10: 20
      +17
      persuade/convince/force the current government to change its policy.
      How can bees be “convinced/persuaded” to be against honey?))) The question is rhetorical, if anything.. These people did not come to power to do something good for the people..
      1. Belisarius
        Belisarius 5 November 2023 13: 30
        +12
        Quote: Aleksey7777777
        How can bees be “convinced/persuaded” to be against honey?)))

        I showed the entire space of solutions, including the most incredible ones)
        As for your words (and the words of Stas 157), theoretically you are, of course, right. But practically life is more complicated. It's not so black and white. The government in the Russian Federation is not some kind of monolith, but rather a conglomerate of various groups, mafia gangs, fraternities, communities of friends, etc. They are not held together by any common idea, and there are very different people there. Yes. There are issues on which they are united, for example on issues of privatization (robbery) of property. But on most issues (including Islamization) there is no unity between them.
        If you noticed, just in the last 2-3 weeks, both the propaganda and real “onset” on this topic has sharply intensified on the part of opponents of migrants and Islamization.
        So, in this matter, it is possible to influence the government (more precisely, that part of it that is not associated with global financial capital).
  6. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 5 November 2023 06: 09
    -5
    Nothing new is happening in the world or in our country. When calls are heard in the country about the “enemies” of the people, it is necessary to remember our history. We can unite the people in different ways. You can call for work and public peace. Or you can highlight nationality at rallies, while putting yourself above everyone. Just ten years after the war, the US plan for a nuclear strike on five cities of the USSR was revealed. There was no hysteria. Perhaps this is what helped the people to work calmly. And thereby cool the ardor of the West. Whatever our situation, the majestic calm and dignity of a large country can help us.
  7. AlexisT
    AlexisT 5 November 2023 06: 13
    +20
    They are now called Khusnullinites.
    1. Girl with a broom
      Girl with a broom 5 November 2023 10: 19
      +10
      Rather, they will be called Khusnulats or Khusnulers.
  8. Stas157
    Stas157 5 November 2023 06: 45
    +19
    . complete Islamization of the Russian Federation may occur

    Our strong patriots, those at the helm, have nothing sacred in their souls. And this despite the fact that they go to church in public. By accusing the communists of laying mines and bombs for future generations, they themselves are laying a much more serious mine!

    Well, what do you want from a person who once betrayed you? He betrayed the communists and became an Orthodox capitalist. Do you think he is no longer capable of betraying? Your new faith, for example?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 5 November 2023 08: 36
      +4
      Well, what do you want from a person who once betrayed you?
      Omar Khayyam, an Islamist of course smile said about this: “Whoever betrays you once will betray you twice” (c)
      1. man
        man 5 November 2023 11: 06
        +7
        Quote: parusnik
        Well, what do you want from a person who once betrayed you?
        Omar Khayyam, an Islamist of course smile said about this: “Whoever betrays you once will betray you twice” (c)

        The Almighty master, who sculpted the human race,
        I don’t know why, but he doesn’t value his own work.
        If we are perfect, why divide us?
        And if they are bad, who is to blame?

        Oh wine! You are living water, you are the source
        Inspiration and happiness, and I am your prophet.
        I glorify you in accordance with the Koran:
        After all, Allah said that wine is not a vice!
        Khayyam, if an Islamist, is very original smile
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 5 November 2023 16: 17
          +3
          Khayyam, if an Islamist, is very original
          A sense of irony, somehow, is inherent in few people. Even emoticons do not help, after a sentence. Of course, Haim was not a member of extremist Islamic organizations of that time. hi
          1. man
            man 5 November 2023 17: 41
            0
            Quote: parusnik
            Khayyam, if an Islamist, is very original
            A sense of irony, somehow, is inherent in few people. Even emoticons do not help, after a sentence. Of course, Haim was not a member of extremist Islamic organizations of that time. hi

            It was clear to me even without your smiley face smile hi
            This is for the younger generation who don’t read books at all. And it’s not their fault... they have to work hard to pay for the mortgage, studies, loans, etc. ((
    2. Stanislav_Shishkin
      Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 08: 51
      -2
      Quote: Stas157
      He betrayed the communists and became an Orthodox capitalist. Do you think he is no longer capable of betraying? Your new faith, for example?
      The new faith in the USSR was called “science” (“scientific communism”, “scientific atheism”); this lie was her first betrayal; the second was perjury - a total violation of the oath of the youth of the USSR to counteract any manifestations of anti-communism in society (the pioneers also made similar solemn promises); there was no opposition: they only condoned and facilitated. The USSR was doomed. Indeed, if the victory of communism is inevitable as a scientific fact, why should I resist, endure hardships, instead of providing myself “according to my needs” a little earlier than it becomes publicly available, that is, during my lifetime. Secretaries probably thought so when they received privileges that were not officially announced; They lost the country to the enemy.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 5 November 2023 10: 29
        +11
        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
        the victory of communism is inevitable

        And I still think so! If we believe in a bright future, then we have nowhere else to go. A bright future is clearly not about capitalism! And it will be a pity if communism first happens not where socialism first arose. Let me remind you that they also talked about socialism - a utopia.
        1. Stanislav_Shishkin
          Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 11: 04
          +1
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
          the victory of communism is inevitable

          And I still think so!
          Did you fulfill the solemn promise of a pioneer, fought against those who skipped school, cheated on homework, and broke glass in the teachers' room, openly raised these issues at pioneer meetings and denounced your classmates? No? Haven’t you actually tried to fulfill the oath of a Komsomol member to give your life to defend the ideals of communism, if necessary? Don’t give up your life, but at least try. The ideological oath does not presuppose an abstract struggle against “individual shortcomings,” but a concrete social struggle against specific people. Or was it never required, everything was “so good, everyone was building communism, and then they betrayed us”?
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 5 November 2023 11: 47
            +7
            Why are you fighting with the past? Don't have enough brains to appreciate what's happening today?
            1. Stanislav_Shishkin
              Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 12: 31
              -4
              Quote: Gardamir
              Why are you fighting with the past? Don't have enough brains to appreciate what's happening today?
              I am at war with the falsifiers of the past. Neo-pagans are among them, a little something, if you don’t have enough brains to understand it.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 5 November 2023 12: 52
                +7
                Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
                I am at war with the falsifiers of the past.

                Somehow you are not visible, fighting with the falsifiers of the present, which is much more urgent than fighting with the past.
                1. Stanislav_Shishkin
                  Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 15: 56
                  -6
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Somehow we can’t see you, fighting against the falsifiers of the present,
                  You look bad. Until the real thing has happened, there is nothing to fake: there is no original model. And once it has happened, it becomes the past. Or do you mean screams like “we’re all going to die”? Everything is there, be careful, otherwise you will sleep through the most interesting part.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 5 November 2023 16: 40
                    +9
                    Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
                    Until the present is over,

                    In the present, the Russian population has been dying out for a long time and is being replaced by migrants and is replenished at the expense of our new brothers, or non-brothers from the outskirts. You remain silent on this issue, fully supporting the actions of the authorities.
                    1. Stanislav_Shishkin
                      Stanislav_Shishkin 6 November 2023 11: 45
                      -3
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      In the present, the Russian population has been dying out for a long time and is being replaced by migrants
                      A long time ago. Practically, from the beginning of the USSR. But you are looking for a scapegoat, not a reason. More precisely, they found it for you, and you hang your sins and the sins of those who found it for you on it. Archetypal situation. Have you never been a Komsomol secretary?
                      1. Stanislav_Shishkin
                        Stanislav_Shishkin 6 November 2023 12: 17
                        0
                        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
                        look for
                        Looking for. Otherwise you will say that I am teaching you bad things.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 5 November 2023 13: 20
            +7
            Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
            Or was it never required, everything was “so good, everyone was building communism, and then they betrayed us”?

            So nothing depends on the people except choosing their elite and then being led by it. And even the election procedure raises serious questions. But what the people can definitely do is take someone’s side when the elite is upset. Sometimes this helps tilt the situation in someone's favor. But for this to happen, a situation of dual power must be created, as was the case in St. Petersburg in 1917.
            1. Stanislav_Shishkin
              Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 16: 23
              -2
              Quote: Stas157
              So nothing depends on the people except how to choose their elite
              But what about “democracy”? laughing Did you really have a choice? Just a list of candidates for the elite?! We even had one candidate for the role of unit leader, appointed by the class teacher; and there was never anyone against him. There is nothing even to say about deputies to local or central government bodies.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 5 November 2023 17: 55
                +1
                Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
                But what about “democracy”? laughing Did you really have a choice?

                In the well-fed Soviet era, few people thought about this. The people were not politicized. Prices could remain stagnant for decades, while wages rose. Everyone believed in a bright tomorrow! At least that's what I remember. Life really got better, if you don't touch the end of the 80s. No one was particularly eager to become deputies or bosses. It wasn't too bad! And no one wanted to take on extra responsibility. And yet, yes, responsibility then was not an empty phrase.
                1. Stanislav_Shishkin
                  Stanislav_Shishkin 6 November 2023 12: 26
                  -1
                  Quote: Stas157
                  The people were not politicized.
                  laughing Let's try it. Write straight: the people were not allowed to participate in politics. The selection of manual “politicians” began in the 1st grade of school. And those who tried to essentially object, i.e., who were capable of becoming politicians, after they stopped imprisoning them, they began to put them in the dark. These “politicians” managed to merge the USSR almost bloodlessly when the people began to become politicized. Well, at least they didn’t fire from the tanks for long.
                  1. Stanislav_Shishkin
                    Stanislav_Shishkin 6 November 2023 13: 19
                    -1
                    Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
                    Quote: Stas157
                    The people were not politicized.
                    Let's try it.
                    More precisely, there was one test: a political demonstration in Novocherkassk in 1962. “Bloody Sunday” is resting. After this, before Gorbachev, no one else made attempts to organize the people without a directive from the authorities. There was a strategic transition in politics from carrots to sticks, and the country was immediately sold.
          3. gsev
            gsev 16 November 2023 04: 49
            -1
            At one time, at one Komsomol briefing, a representative of the Komsomol district committee was asked the question: “Why does the Komsomol leadership force open losers and hooligans to be accepted into the Komsomol?” The answer was that the Komsomol is a tool for controlling youth. Losers and hooligans must first of all be accepted into the Komsomol, so that they can be controlled through the Komsomol. Quite recently, Putin was asked why a pizza delivery man earns less than an aircraft designer. V.V. pretended that this was not true and an exaggeration. But the problem is different, it is simple and profitable for his associates to manage Russian machine builders and make money from them by reducing wages at factories to the level that a worker or designer gets a chance for a separate apartment either after the death of his parents or after 40 years. Accordingly, a Russian man gets married with a higher education or after 35 years of age and is unlikely to be able to support a family with 2 children. And if a girl is an engineer or a doctor, if she wants to have children, she must marry a richer and therefore older man, and most likely a businessman. In recent years, many people have been trying to move to other countries, believing that the prospects in Russia are illusory and it is worth at least trying to realize themselves in other countries. Of my friends with whom I collect automation cabinets, one now lives in Afghanistan, two went to work in Morocco and South Korea in the summer, one lady lives in Turkey in the summer and in Russia in the winter, having one foreign citizenship and a residence permit in another country. One lady lived for six months in Germany and Greece, although she was not able to get a job in these countries, but the fact is that, according to her, it is easier for an unemployed person to live in Germany than for a nurse in the National Guard and in a military hospital. And to obtain a residence permit, Germans simply upon arrival in Germany require that they submit an application to flee Russia for political reasons. If this had been done and she was 20 years younger, she would most likely have been given a residence permit in Germany. In the coming years, Russia will face a massive exodus of its fellow citizens for high-paying jobs in various countries from Kazakhstan and Afghanistan to Turkey and Vietnam.
  9. north 2
    north 2 5 November 2023 06: 48
    +9
    paraphrasing a quote from the DMB film about the proportions of words and quick deeds, we can state that after the words uttered by petty ordinary liberals and ending with seasoned Shakhnazarovs and Muslim muftis about the unnecessaryness of introducing into the Russian Constitution an article about the Russian nation as a state-forming nation, a completely meager period has passed and already things get done quickly. Yesterday, the sovereign himself supported the project, and the project is already ready, for the construction of a Muslim mosque in Patriot Park. And of course, from the face of the spiritual leader of Muslims, one could guess that this mosque there would be extremely pompous and would dominate the Orthodox Main Temple of the Russian Armed Forces in Patriot Park.
    What are the prospects for Moscow? But you need to ask Constantinople, which was once a city of a religion that correctly glorified Christ and the Hagia Sophia in it was the Patriarchal Cathedral, and now a Muslim mosque, despite the fact that things were not done there as quickly as they are being done quickly today in Moscow
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 5 November 2023 07: 28
      +7
      Quote: north 2
      What are the prospects for Moscow? But you need to ask Constantinople, which was once a city of a religion that correctly glorified Christ and the Hagia Sophia in it was the Patriarchal Cathedral, and now it is a Muslim mosque

      The premise of the question is correct, as is the obviousness of the answer.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 5 November 2023 08: 42
      +8
      The Sovereign, he is also the guarantor of the Constitution. Does he observe the guarantees prescribed in it? And it says there that Russia is a secular state, i.e. the state is separate, and the church, of any denomination, is separate. And the sovereign, somehow not trying to distance himself from confessions, flirts with everyone.
    3. Stanislav_Shishkin
      Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 10: 22
      -3
      Quote: north 2
      And of course, from the face of the spiritual leader of Muslims, one could guess that this mosque there would be extremely pompous and would dominate the Orthodox Main Temple of the Russian Armed Forces in Patriot Park.
      It is logical to build a mosque nearby; Muslims also serve in the Armed Forces. They brought in the “will dominate” thing to incite interreligious strife, there’s no point anymore.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 November 2023 13: 09
        +12
        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
        It is logical to build a mosque nearby; Muslims also serve in the Armed Forces.

        And between them - a synagogue, a Buddhist pagoda, a Hindu temple, an institute of atheism, a clearing for Chukchi shamans, a church of Satan... Who else have I forgotten there? Jehovah's Witnesses, or Hare Krishnas in robes? They should also be given a hectare each.
    4. ZloyCat
      ZloyCat 5 November 2023 10: 47
      +10
      "Yesterday the sovereign himself supported the project, and the project is already ready, the construction of a Muslim mosque in Patriot Park"
      and they will build it in a short time, and at the expense of the budget, you can rest assured laughing
    5. Stanislav_Shishkin
      Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 11: 40
      -6
      Quote: north 2
      about the unnecessaryness of introducing into the Constitution of Russia an article about the Russian nation as a state-forming nation
      Since the appearance of this name in our history, Russians have been a civil nation that has absorbed ethnic Polyans, Drevlyans, Vyatichi, Krivichi, etc. On medieval maps there is no territory where Russians lived, but since the time of Kievan Rus, all its citizens suddenly became Russian. And the Shakhnazarovs (be it Mikhail or Karen) are at least no less Russian and state-forming than many Ivanovs, Petrovs and Sidorovs.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 5 November 2023 07: 26
    +14
    The author, don’t be disingenuous, would write directly that in the country, the ruling class is trampling on the most sacred thing that we have - the Constitution. For some it is written, for others it is not written.
    1. ZloyCat
      ZloyCat 5 November 2023 10: 54
      +7
      "For some it is written, for others it is not written"
      It’s just that everything is for friends, the rest is law. and we are not his friends
  11. Million
    Million 5 November 2023 08: 03
    +8
    One gets the feeling that Islamization is one of the ways to destroy Russia.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 November 2023 08: 53
      +10
      It's not a feeling. This is true. But for some reason no one comes to the defense of Russia. Moreover, they support Islamizers.
      1. Stanislav_Shishkin
        Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 09: 21
        -6
        Quote: Gardamir
        support Islamizers
        And against the neo-pagans who lead to Nazism and the collapse of the Russian Federation. Solar symbolism does not hide their dark essence.
      2. Girl with a broom
        Girl with a broom 5 November 2023 10: 17
        +8
        Because the import of millions of migrants to the Russian Federation is beneficial to traders, oligarchs and the Russian authorities.
        Moreover, officials and deputies, hucksters and oligarchs, their families live in the USA, the EU and Israel and they will not grow grass after this.
      3. gsev
        gsev 16 November 2023 04: 55
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        But for some reason no one comes to the defense of Russia. Moreover, they support Islamizers.

        Perhaps because the customs of Sharia in the political space that Gorbachev, Andropov, Yeltsin, Yavlinsky, Gaidar and Putin built allow a person to exist more easily and give a greater chance to continue his family. In addition to Muslims coming to Moscow for permanent residence, there is also a tendency that Russians are moving away from Christian culture and adopting Asian culture.
  12. Unknown
    Unknown 5 November 2023 09: 00
    +14
    Let’s speculate about the reasons for the Islamization of Russia and the demographic hole
    Yes, there is no need to argue here....
    The job is done, as they say, “It’s too late to drink Borjomi...” when the country is already almost Islamized .As reported in the Samara diocese, all public events have been cancelled, including the procession of the Cross, which was supposed to start on the morning of November 4, 2023 from the Intercession Cathedral. The reasons for this are not explained, but are likely for security reasons. Of course, you can slaughter sheep on the streets of Moscow, Eid al-Adha, you understand
    but when it comes to Orthodox holidays, everything is taboo, the ban on mass processions. One gets the impression that GDP is a Russophobe, no matter how sad it sounds. Jews, Muslims, anyone , but not Orthodox, Russian. And with us
    What is happening in the North Caucasus, confirmation.
    1. Stanislav_Shishkin
      Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 09: 44
      -5
      Quote: Unknown
      Yes, there is no need to argue here
      Is this your motto in life, or is it for “external use”, such as “good advice”, “good wishes”? Then you try to push in without reasoning (i.e., without trying to present an antithesis and its argumentation) your Islamophobic spells. Eid al-Fitr, Easter and other religious holidays irritate only the most possessed atheists; It’s just that non-believers are tolerant of this, that is, cool. Believers in Samara congratulate their friends from another faith on their big holidays. Sometimes Russians and Chuvashs come to the park to fight for the title of Batyr... You have to reason, but you don’t have to lie.
      1. nikolaevskiy78
        nikolaevskiy78 5 November 2023 10: 07
        +5
        That's right, heroes of traditional globalism, against the “knights” of liberalism. Big Casino makes bets by financing both sides. A gain for yourself is a loss for everyone else.
        1. Stanislav_Shishkin
          Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 12: 08
          -10
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          traditional globalism
          Does not exist. There is nothing traditional in the ecumenical movement; it is a remake of your Casino, directed against traditions. There is no need to feign such “objectivity” here. But traditional values ​​are protected by the Constitution due to the many who want to purposefully destroy them.
      2. Unknown
        Unknown 5 November 2023 11: 58
        +9
        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
        Is this your motto in life, or is it for “external use”, such as “good advice”, “good wishes”? Then you try to push in without reasoning (i.e., without trying to present an antithesis and its argumentation) your Islamophobic spells.

        Through life. And what is the reasoning here? It was not I who came to Turkestan, although I once served as a conscript in those parts, but the whole of Turkestan came to me in the Russian Federation, and behaves according to the laws of Sharia and adat. “They don’t go to someone else’s monastery with their own rules” Russians didn’t run around with candles in their hands and didn’t cross themselves, showing their faith to everyone and everywhere, be it Tashkent, Chirchik, Osh and Fergana. Was toleration show off one's religiosity bad taste.
        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
        Eid al-Fitr, Easter and other religious holidays irritate only the most possessed atheists; It’s just that non-believers are tolerant of this, that is, cool.

        So celebrate your Eid al-Fitr at yourself at home in the yard in a circle of fellow believers. On Easter, none of the Orthodox doesn't cook eggs, doesn't paint on the street, attracting attention, you will have to christen yourself; a person will come up, no problem... but to impose, emphasizing your disdain to the Russians...if you please. For example, if I come to Dushanbe and set my own rules, how long will I live? Otherwise they “irritate the most possessed” no need to la-la ,look around, how many possessed people are exhibiting to the show your faith. Just bearded men, half the country, and you can’t tell who is who.
        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
        Believers in Samara congratulate their friends from another faith on their big holidays. Sometimes Russians and Chuvashs come to the park to fight for the title of Batyr... You have to reason, but you don’t have to lie.

        Perhaps they come to their friends, no doubt .. but the main thing here is
        sometimes Russians come to fight
        Without showing off, sticking out your Orthodoxy.
        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
        You need to reason, but you don’t have to lie.

        No need to distort. Lie. What have I said that is not true?
        1. Stanislav_Shishkin
          Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 12: 19
          -10
          Quote: Unknown
          how many demoniacs flaunt their faith. Just bearded men, half the country and you can’t tell who is who
          Confused in contradictions. “Bearded men” “flaunt their faith” in such a way that “you won’t understand who is who.” Either this is not a “show” of YOUR faith at all, or these are your problems of understanding, which is more likely, NMV.
          1. Unknown
            Unknown 5 November 2023 12: 49
            +7
            Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
            Confused in contradictions. “Bearded men” “flaunt their faith” in such a way that “you won’t understand who is who.” Either this is not “showing off” your faith at all, or these are your problems of understanding, which is more likely, nmv.

            What are the contradictions?
            But you won’t understand who is who, either a Caucasian, or maybe a Tajik, an Uzbek?
        2. Stanislav_Shishkin
          Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 14: 04
          -11
          Quote: Unknown
          What have I said that is not true?
          All. Do Russians in Asia enter the temple courtyard from the street without crossing themselves? Don't they make religious processions? Don’t people celebrate Christ on the street with their friends on Easter Day? Everything is a lie, everything is to incite conflict after the provocation in Makhachkala. This topic has been trampled on for days; This is why the provocation itself was carried out. The tramplers need to be pulled back.
          1. Unknown
            Unknown 5 November 2023 15: 08
            +9
            Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
            All. Do Russians in Asia enter the temple courtyard from the street without crossing themselves? Don't they make religious processions? Don’t people celebrate Christ on the street with their friends on Easter Day?

            Are there many Russians left in Turkestan? Chechnya? And how do they feel there? Do they put Christ on the street and hold religious processions? Nobody forbids celebrating Muslim holidays in the Russian Federation, ... but without a stir in your mosque, but not on city streets still with predominantly Russian by the population.
            Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
            Everything is a lie, everything is to incite conflict after the provocation in Makhachkala.

            What lie? Did the Russians in Bryansk, Smolensk destroy airports in search of people of other faiths or people of other nationalities? The events in Kondopoga in 2006 were only a continuation and development of similar situations that were observed in Syktyvkar, Salsk and other Russian cities. In all cases, spontaneous protests by citizens were associated with the inaction of the authorities or with the complicity of the authorities with criminal groups created along ethnic lines. But the authorities immediately attach labels, such as red-brown, etc., and punish and specifically Russians We must behave accordingly with respect for other faiths, will not be no provocations.
  13. nikolaevskiy78
    nikolaevskiy78 5 November 2023 10: 00
    +7
    Why be surprised? Those who represent the state don’t give a damn about anything except money. Well, then they will bring in Africans, Malays, Burmese, Samoans.
    There is no core of value other than the dough, so all these disturbances are in vain.
  14. Girl with a broom
    Girl with a broom 5 November 2023 10: 14
    +6
    The Government of the Russian Federation is carrying out an accelerated migrant replacement of the indigenous, endangered Russian population with aborigines from Central Asia, to whom everything Russian is alien and hateful.

    Such a policy cannot be carried out without the highest blessing of our guarantor.

    They came to Russia to establish their own rules.

    A little more time will pass, ethnic non-Russian Muslim closed enclaves, ghettos with a population hostile to Russia will form - and then the unrest in Europe will seem to all of us like a children's party.

    The corrupt law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation (Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, National Guard) and the courts are simply servants of hucksters, oligarchs who bring millions of natives here from Central Asia; they are not protectors of the Russian people.

    The only way out is for the Russian people to buy weapons en masse and form armed territorial self-defense units to escort Russian children to and from kindergartens, schools and to patrol places where migrants gather.

    With such a policy, a bloody ethnic and religious war between migrants alien to our way of life and the indigenous inhabitants of Russia is inevitable over the next 10 years.
  15. Ivan Seversky
    Ivan Seversky 5 November 2023 10: 47
    +10
    Fertility rates are declining everywhere. Over the past 10 years, it has decreased the most in Chechnya. In Dagestan, the birth rate has been below replacement level for several years.

    The real problem is those who bring in migrants, supposedly to prevent population “extinction” and provide jobs. If a high birth rate were beneficial for the state, the place of China, South Korea, and Japan would be taken by the Central African Republic, Niger, and Afghanistan.

    In reality, “Novorossians” Tajiks acquire the status of low-income people and live on Putin’s allowance: 14 thousand rubles. per month per child. But Russians do not pay it - the presence of an official job for at least one of the spouses makes the income higher than required.
    Retain citizenship of the country of origin. They don't pay taxes and don't serve in the army.
    But the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Labor are improving their reporting on obtaining citizenship and reducing crime among migrants (a Tajik-Russian is no longer considered a foreigner)

    PS The Ministry of Internal Affairs has stopped publishing statistics on those who have received citizenship since August - I believe that there are only Tajiks there, and before the elections they do not want to “delight” the electorate.
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      nikolaevskiy78 5 November 2023 10: 58
      +1
      Have you ever wondered why Tajiks are the leaders here? Why is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs so amusingly scrubbing Z. Kabulov, who has established real contacts with the Taliban (banned in the Russian Federation) and promoting the opposition like the son of Massoud? The Taliban have significantly reduced the flow of nasty things, only one area is not under control, the Masudov Gorge. So look who stands for what.
      1. Ivan Seversky
        Ivan Seversky 5 November 2023 11: 10
        +7
        Tajiks are in the lead because:
        1. Agreement on the recognition of dual citizenship between the Russian Federation and Tajikistan, in force since 1996. Residents of all other Central Asian republics, when accepting Russian citizenship, must renounce citizenship of the country of origin - in 2018, the “humane” Ministry of Internal Affairs canceled this, but the governments of those countries left this is in force.
        2. Tajikistan is the poorest of the former republics of the former USSR - in terms of per capita income at the level of countries in Tropical Africa. Average salary there = benefits for 1 child here.
        3. Tajikistan has the highest birth rate of the former republics: 3.2 children per woman (in 1991 the birth rate was 5.2)
      2. dump22
        dump22 7 November 2023 10: 49
        +1
        The Taliban have significantly reduced the flow of crap


        https://topwar.ru/229480-mvd-rf-vydelilo-vlastjam-tadzhikistana-250-millionov-rublej-na-borbu-s-narkotrafikom.html
        The Taliban* failed to succeed in the fight against drugs and during the first quarter of 2022, drugs were seized in Tajikistan 14,5 times Afghan drugs compared to the same period in 2021.
  16. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 5 November 2023 12: 40
    -5
    I expected this from Samsonov, but I was wrong.
    Well, the problem is certainly relevant. However, the author, in my opinion, exaggerates his forecasts somewhat.
    In some regions (large cities), the percentage of the active culturally alien population has definitely increased over the past 10-15 years. It is enough to see at least once what is going on in Moscow on Muslim holidays next to the main mosque to understand how large-scale and frightening this thing is for the average person. Sometimes, when getting to work in the morning, you can see many more non-Russian faces along the way than Russian ones. This is a problem, there is no point in denying it.
    However, the attractiveness for DC the residence of the majority of visitors to the Russian Federation (especially million-plus cities such as Moscow and St. Petersburg) raises my doubts, as well as the fact that these people will support the tendency towards migration and reproduction indicated by the Author.
    The fact is that the capacity of Russian industries requiring low-skilled labor is limited. Also, these industries will inevitably be subject to quota requirements (based on socio-political considerations) for the recruitment of the so-called “titular nation” - although now this issue may not be very clear, this will still happen in the foreseeable future.
    Modern, highly competitive industries will have different requirements for labor, mainly providing for something that migrants do not have and the majority will not have for various reasons. Classic industries have a certain capacity for such labor force and, without sharp economic growth, this capacity will not undergo significant changes.
    The climate and traditions of living are not very suitable for many migrants, who in their homeland can live much more familiarly - freer and better than they will exist here.
    The prospect of breeding and multiplying in barracks conditions or crowded suburbs may not be a problem for the “zero generation,” the most motivated to migrate and earn money, but for their children, taking into account the temptations and prospects, such a situation will definitely not be attractive.

    It is also worth understanding that, depending on the success of Chinese initiatives (and in relation to a number of states in Central Asia and, in principle, taking into account the scale of increasing their activities), the level of income and quality of life there will grow, which will inevitably leave some % of potential migration is there, and some % (millennials) will even find a niche for themselves in remote employment, which is much more attractive than low-skilled work in the Russian Federation.
    Both in Uzbekistan and in Tajikistan, processes of internal development are taking place, they will inevitably reduce or even reverse current migration trends if the SA is in the period of relativity. stability.

    As for "rooting" - let's think about how much a hut costs in Moscow time? Somewhere in Zelenograd, even if you are very very lucky, no less than 6 million. How much should a migrant family save for such a hut, taking into account the fact that they need to drink, eat, pay for clothes, transport, medicine, give some money to relatives for tubercle And taking into account salaries in those jobs where overwhelming most migrants get settled. No, it’s precisely that you can LIVE in a barracks and in these “rubber huts,” but it will be a sad life and absolutely hopeless. Where you can buy real estate, there are usually no or almost no jobs with normal salaries. And why should they change their rural area, where it is warmer and there are connections and relatives (and most importantly, lower prices) - to ours, where there is nothing?
    It’s one thing when this happens in the EU, where they are given some coins and supported - but in our case this does not happen.
    What is the benefit of migrants in order to “Russify”? I don’t see one - we have a depressed society, a sluggish economy, an alien cultural environment, latent xenophobia at the everyday level, low salaries in low-skilled professions, the same nepotism and nepotism at higher levels as in the countries of their birth. We also have a rather expensive life (in large cities), expensive real estate, and education.
    Objectively, our society does not look like an attractive environment where one would like to strive. When someone there breaks into the EU almost on rafts across the Mediterranean, he bursts into a whole bunch of geshefts and a completely different level of a well-fed life. At a minimum, 25% of our population can be classified as “poor,” but why bother clinging and putting down roots?

    Let me summarize - there IS a problem. Mostly CURRENT. Yes, there are threats, yes, the percentage of the non-titular nation will increase, yes this is a problem. But this will be a much smoother process and the danger from external migration is overestimated. Measures to support the titular nation are definitely needed - otherwise it will die out before “insidious aliens” take its place.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 5 November 2023 13: 27
      +7
      When someone there breaks into the EU almost on rafts across the Mediterranean, he bursts into a whole bunch of geshefts and a completely different level of a well-fed life.
      4 out of 5 boat people in the EU are deported after a couple of years of marinating in a refugee center. It’s much easier to gain a foothold in Russia, and the freebies are not that bad - the same child benefits are quite decent compared to European ones.
      in those jobs where the vast majority of migrants get jobs
      They have already created their own deep economy, where the influx of money from outside - from those working for Russian business and involved in crime - allows them to exist sustainably.
      At least 25% of our population can be classified as “poor”
      The standard of living in EU countries is higher than in Russia, and significantly, but still not hundreds of times. And compared to what the Tajbeks have at home, Russia looks financially very attractive. And they give birth to gain a foothold.
      It is worth noting the clan structure of their society, because of which if you are from the poor, then you will remain so, because those who are already there will not let you into the developing and richer industries (if SrAsia develops), and you will have to leave, so that at least somehow then live. Something like that.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 5 November 2023 14: 35
        -2
        They have already created their own deep economy

        Please tell me, what will be the capacity of the deep economy within the framework of a weak economy with limited capacity? What will they trade? Weapons, in a country in which there is negligible arms trafficking among the civilian population? Maybe they will brew synth with the level of control over everything and the laws that we have? Maybe underground casinos will be closed down? What else is prostitution? Just indicate what these people will be doing so profitable and what will occupy, for example, 2 million people (1/70 of the “sort of” demographics we have) so-and-so underground that will allow them to take root?
        No, to individuals, hundreds, thousands, perhaps tens of thousands - easy, market 0. But not to those numbers that could threaten our demographics.
        And compared to what the Tajbeks have at home, Russia looks financially very attractive. And they give birth to gain a foothold

        Where will they live, dear? How much money will they use to buy huts where they pay more or less adequate money for work? How long will it take them to save up for this hut, working 24/7 together? How can you even take root and become Russified without housing? And this is what happens to MILLIONS of people, as long as we are talking about really threatening trends.
        Russia is not Central Asia, it’s in favelas, but you can live there no matter what you want, and huts here won’t be handed out on a whim, no matter how hard you try, this is not the EU.

        I point out that the capacity of all this diaspora bullshit is very... limited, and it won’t get bigger UNTIL our economy gets bigger (for which I don’t see any prerequisites yet). Money is not taken out of thin air, houses are not built out of thin air - everything has a price, and if people from Tajikistan come here naked, then they will only have what they earn here - will this give millions the opportunity to gain a foothold HERE? Definitely not. This means that sooner or later what is called “saturation of the environment” will occur, and this process will NOT advance further. At the moment, these people are receiving citizenship largely not to stay, but to make it easier to get settled. Well, most of them won’t want to live here! To come, live, earn money, get treatment - yes, but live and put down roots NO.
        Now the observed picture is often cognitively distorted because the average person observes a certain mass with little appreciation of its dynamics.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 5 November 2023 14: 47
          +8
          live and take root NO.
          Do they give birth to children so that they can go to their Dajbekostan? And they get them jobs with government agencies (police, tax) and then leave?
          What will they trade?
          Drugs, fruits, pilaf in their jihad cafes. The list is big. The diaspora satisfies its needs on its own; thus, money earned outside of it flows in and remains among its own.
          Where will they live, dear?
          Approximately in the same place where they live and breed now. Their demands on the quality of living space are lower than those of the indigenous population.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 5 November 2023 17: 14
          +6
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Money is not taken out of thin air, houses are not built out of thin air - everything has a price, and if people from Tajikistan come here naked, then they will only have what they earn here - will this give millions the opportunity to gain a foothold HERE?

          I know a Russian family from whom these same Tajiks simply took away a four-room apartment, giving them a wrecked house in return. This is in the mid-200s, XNUMX km from Moscow.
    2. kakvastam
      kakvastam 5 November 2023 16: 39
      +3
      Sometimes When getting to work in the morning, you can see many more non-Russian faces along the way than Russian ones.

      What kind of reserve do you live in if this time is different? It has long been a success to hear Russian speech.
  17. Stanislav_Shishkin
    Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 13: 00
    -13
    Islamization also implies disloyalty of Muslims to non-Islamic authorities, when they recognize only their own as authorities
    This is an obvious lie. If secular power begins to mind its own business, it loses loyalty in any religion. Just remember the split in the Russian Orthodox Church, or the rabid anti-religious propaganda and open mockery of the values ​​of believers after the revolution. To Caesar - what is Caesar's.
  18. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 5 November 2023 13: 11
    -7
    Any religion can be made friendly and changed in a more moderate direction. As was done with Christianity, where the path of Orthodoxy was chosen. The same can be done with Islam. The path is long and difficult, but realistic if this is done at the state level. As they say, if you can't stop it, then lead it. what
  19. kakvastam
    kakvastam 5 November 2023 16: 36
    +4
    Actually, the train left twenty years ago.
    The process of replacing the indigenous population has already become irreversible, especially taking into account the actions of the Migrant Lover.
    I doubt that he and his circle are so dense that they have not heard anything about problems with rabbits, feral horses and other alien animals in Australia and are not aware that invasive species always displace indigenous ones and destroy the existing ecosystem, so I have to assume that current processes correspond to their intentions.
    And taking into account the fact that traditional Islam is losing competition to radical Islam, the picture drawn by the author seems extremely optimistic.
    1. Stanislav_Shishkin
      Stanislav_Shishkin 5 November 2023 16: 55
      -8
      Quote: hervasznaet
      The process of replacing the indigenous population has already become irreversible, especially taking into account the actions of the Migrant Lover.
      He's not a stork. It was only the Siberian Cranes who considered him a Siberian Crane. Or were you waiting for him to groom a couple of kids for you too, but didn’t do it yourself?
      1. kakvastam
        kakvastam 5 November 2023 22: 37
        +1
        Functional illiteracy is the scourge of our time.
        If you have mastered the letters, start trying to understand what is written.
        1. Stanislav_Shishkin
          Stanislav_Shishkin 6 November 2023 10: 38
          -5
          Quote: kakvastam
          If you have mastered the letters, start trying to understand what is written
          If you had asked since when the birth rate in the southern national outskirts of the USSR in general and the RSFSR in particular was higher than in regions with a predominance of the Russian population, you would not write your nonsense about the search for the main culprit of “replacement of the indigenous population.” This is the first thing. And secondly, they are the same autochthons (indigenous population) in the Russian Federation, like the Slavic and other peoples: that is, in historical retrospect, they did not come to their land from anywhere, but took root in it since ancient times. Are there many of them in Moscow? But it was not Putin who made it a “city on a hill”, opening up more opportunities for people. Or should they sit quietly in the mountains and not rock the boat? Hope it's not too difficult for you.
    2. ZloyCat
      ZloyCat 6 November 2023 09: 28
      0
      “And taking into account the fact that traditional Islam is losing competition to radical Islam, the picture drawn by the author seems extremely optimistic.”
      not so simple. just traditional Islam is Wahhabism, the most radical and intolerant of religions
  20. Shchelokov Yura
    Shchelokov Yura 5 November 2023 17: 41
    -4
    Russian women do not want life for their children. But the Central Asians want it.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 5 November 2023 18: 05
      +5
      life for your children. But the Central Asians want it.
      Central Asians breed their own kind for the sake of benefits, as well as instinctively realizing that their strength is in numbers
      1. Stanislav_Shishkin
        Stanislav_Shishkin 6 November 2023 10: 59
        -7
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Central Asians breed their own kind for the sake of benefits, as well as instinctively realizing that their strength is in numbers
        How do you describe animals? You are not a bolt cutter, but a Nazi talker, or a hired provocateur. Do you cut staples?
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 6 November 2023 16: 17
          +3
          How do you describe animals?
          And you take and refute my words laughing It won't work because I'm right tongue .
          Humans - homo sapiens - are highly developed school predators.
  21. runway-1
    runway-1 5 November 2023 18: 22
    +3
    This is a relevant article, and here we can only add that what is happening is determined by the very system of our life, so to speak. Instead of the RSFSR, the Russian Federation appeared, in which it was somehow not possible to openly propagate bourgeois nationalism as an ideological support and decided to rely on religion. And by the way, a number of participants and leaders of the terrorist underground in our country are ethnic Russians, indigenous Russian citizens... In general, the results are obvious and here, by the way, is a small “social” illustration at the link: https://dzen.ru/a/ ZT9V_JltMTORD3e4
    arguments of the week
    Deputy Alimova: They come with a large number of children, the entire village, become citizens and receive benefits at the highest level
    ... Earlier, the deputy asked a completely reasonable question:
    “I am interested in several burning questions. How much do migrants put a strain on the social part of the budget? How many children do these people have? How many of them are already receiving pensions from us, having moved as adults and received citizenship? They came here, they had seven children, and they gave birth to an eighth. Does not work. At the highest level, they receive an allowance of 100 thousand rubles. As a result, the head of the municipality cannot find anyone who would agree to work for 20 thousand rubles as a postman. Why work when you have a hundred thousand, and they’ll have to ride a bike for 20 and deliver pensions?”
    It is worth saying that in July the State Duma already discussed the situation with migrants. According to the Federal Agency for National Affairs, in 2022, 635 people received Russian citizenship. Of these, 000 people are from Tajikistan, including 170 children, because each family has an average of 000-85 children.
    Another situation that can hardly be classified as fair is the payment of maternity capital. Now the right to maternity capital arises as soon as a woman who has children receives Russian citizenship. It does not matter that the children were not Russians at the time of birth. Deputies propose issuing maternity capital only to children who are Russian citizens from birth. But no such decision has been made yet.
    According to State Duma deputy Y. Nilov, the social security system is under excessive strain due to migrants who move to Russia with entire families:
    “After a woman receives Russian citizenship, maternity capital is issued to her children, although they were born abroad. This is a lot of money - in 2023, 524,4 thousand rubles will be issued for the first child, 693,1 thousand rubles for the second (if the family did not receive maternity capital for the first child) or 168,7 thousand rubles (if the family received maternity capital for the first child) "
  22. runway-1
    runway-1 5 November 2023 19: 23
    +3
    Quote: ZloyKot
    "For some it is written, for others it is not written"
    It’s just that everything is for friends, the rest is law. and we are not his friends

    BUSINESS Online November 5,
    The son of the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, Adam has been appointed to a “responsible position” in the security council of the head of the republic. Speaker of the regional parliament Magomed Daudov announced this on his Telegram channel.
    “My dear nephew, grandson of the first president of the Chechen Republic, Hero of Russia Akhmat-Khadzhi Kadyrov, Adam Kadyrov has been appointed to a responsible position in the security service of the Head of the Chechen Republic! “Adam has shown and proven in practice that he is a worthy representative of the great Kadyrov family and the entire Chechen people,” the messages say. It is not specified which position we are talking about.
  23. Esaul
    Esaul 5 November 2023 23: 03
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    For the oligarchs and the authorities serving their interests, migrants are beneficial. He took and brought in a ready-made worker, but a Russian must first be fed, raised and trained for 20 years. And if something is profitable for the capitalist, then so be it.
  24. Yaroslav Tekkel
    Yaroslav Tekkel 6 November 2023 18: 32
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    It’s not that the government particularly supported Islamization. It is generally in favor of the clericalization of society. Everything secular, modern, and educated is hateful to him and is enlisted en masse in “LGBT and foreign agents.” Because it seems to them that religious people are easier to control (they taught in Soviet schools and institutes that “religion is a tool of the ruling class to subjugate the working people”). At the same time, it was in the Central Asian republics that they already realized that governing through religion is like riding a tiger, so they are putting pressure on their Islamists. Tashkent is a much more secular and, in a good sense, liberal city than Grozny.
  25. Marc_Aurel
    Marc_Aurel 6 November 2023 22: 19
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    These are the same problems as in Western Europe, I always thought that it would be different in Russia, but now I find out. Basically, there are only two possibilities: either you give up and let this process go, or you start a serious reconquista.

    In principle, this process of Islamization is only possible because there are no religious, ideological or nationalist forces in the countries concerned that actually take themselves seriously enough to stop it, and that even claim their territory with the same aggressive and expansive sense of mission or would even strive to spread it. For the same reasons, globalism is spreading unhindered, and with it the American way of life - Islam, globalism and similar expansive systems are meeting, at best, only moderate resistance.

    Achieving an obsession like Islam - a blazing inner fire - can only be achieved by forcing its followers to perform daily rituals that maintain and deepen this obsession. The easiest thing would be to change what already exists so that it becomes protectable, i.e. Christianity. One way would be to create new crusaders. Of course, it is necessary to increase the population reproduction rate, ban birth control pills and make large families a religious duty. I say this without judgment, as a logical conclusion from the current circumstances; I myself am not even a Christian, but an atheist.

    But all this is extremely dangerous, especially now for Russia in wartime, but also in peacetime, because it carries with it an acute danger of the collapse of the federation and, of course, the danger of mass religious conflicts that can even develop into wars. Globalism, i.e. Western oligarchs in general and American oligarchs in particular benefit most from the struggle between Christianity and Islam.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 6 November 2023 23: 31
      +2
      there are no religious, ideological or nationalist forces in the respective countries
      There are, but they are effectively countered (due to the monopoly on media and administrative resources) by the existing state system. So far their growth has been suppressed.
  26. mongolian9999
    mongolian9999 7 November 2023 01: 02
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    Christianity crushed the faith of the Slavs, which, by the way, was much more than two thousand years old. Now comes the next stage.
    And it is symbolic that Vladimir baptized Rus' and it was not just some Said who baptized Russia.
  27. mongolian9999
    mongolian9999 7 November 2023 01: 07
    +3
    Now prices are steadily rising, and household incomes are steadily falling. When another stability comes, then the people will begin to multiply not only in the marginal layer of society.
  28. S.Z.
    S.Z. 7 November 2023 12: 54
    +2
    Given the existing demographic and migration trends, the Islamization of Russia is inevitable. I don’t see any real political force that aims to change these trends. If we Russians don’t want to give birth a lot, then no one will do it for us. Well, maybe I don't know something...
  29. Stas
    Stas 8 November 2023 05: 45
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    Many thanks to the author for not being afraid to raise such sensitive topics. I have long been inclined to believe that Russia is ruled by complete Russophobes with dual citizenship who are purposefully destroying the indigenous population and the country. I don’t need these migrants in any form in my house and on my land. Many local people are simply afraid to give birth to children, seeing no prospects and feeling that they have no rights in front of migrants and the organized crime diasporas protecting them. It doesn’t even take a lot of intelligence to understand that a conditional Uzbekistan/Tajikistan is being built on the territory of Russia, with the subsequent squeezing of the territory and the displacement of the remnants of the indigenous population according to the Kosovo principle. And, unfortunately, we don’t even see any improvements even on the horizon.
  30. Avi2023
    Avi2023 8 November 2023 13: 53
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    Russia needs to accept immigrants who will integrate, assimilate and become part of society, so first of all they must be non-Muslims, not Africans. There are millions of Christian Arabs in Arab or Islamic countries. There are Christians in China, India, Pakistan. Persecuted people who can be accepted. There are Christians who can be accepted from the Philippines. Cuba, as well as other countries that will safely accept non-Muslims from Thailand, Vietnam and East Asia. We need to accept a few million positive immigrants and then the situation will improve for the better. They will interfere in Russian society. , which will be bigger and stronger and will stop the growth of the Muslim population in Russia
    Millions of pro-Russian Christian immigrants from South American countries could be accepted
  31. S.Z.
    S.Z. 8 November 2023 15: 34
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    Quote from Avi2023
    We need to accept a few million positive immigrants and then the situation will improve for the better.

    That is, you propose to replace Russians with positive immigrants in the future? I'm afraid that those who make decisions will not agree, simply because it is more difficult.
    1. Avi2023
      Avi2023 8 November 2023 22: 11
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      Immigration will last for a limited time
      Until the birth rate of ethnic Russians improves, the immigrants will be either Christians or non-Muslims, only those with a real ability to acclimatize and integrate.
      They assimilate into society, marry Russian women and, after a few generations, acquire an ethnic Russian appearance.
      This is not a separate migration, but a complex one.
    2. gsev
      gsev 16 November 2023 05: 13
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      Quote: S.Z.
      That is, you propose to replace Russians with positive immigrants in the future?

      In Russia under Andropov-Yeltsin-Putin, there is not a replacement of Christians with Muslims at all, but a replacement of the highly educated with the poorly educated. This is exactly the problem. A Muslim friend of mine moved from Russia via Afghanistan to the United States, where he quickly got housing in Oregon and an engineering job on the East Coast. Moreover, his salary was enough for him to travel on a rotational basis to work across the entire territory of the United States. In Turkey, among saleswomen, Russia is considered a country with higher earnings, but the children of people who ended up in Turkey within just 2 months recognize the high attractiveness of the engineering profession or public service. Having returned to Russia, these people see within six months that engineers in Russia are simply losers. If under Stalin in the USA and Europe foreigners were invited to work in the USSR, this is not observed in modern Russia, although supposedly business needs highly qualified specialists. It just doesn’t agree that they are also low paid.
  32. S.Z.
    S.Z. 9 November 2023 11: 53
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    Quote from Avi2023
    This is not a separate migration, but a complex one.


    I don't think this approach will be attractive to decision makers.
  33. runway-1
    runway-1 9 November 2023 17: 46
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    Our internal processes are quite ambiguous:
    https://lenta.ru/news/2023/11/08/adam/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
    The son of the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, 15-year-old Adam Kadyrov, came to the award ceremony for the head of Kabardino-Balkaria, Kazbek Kokov, with a golden pistol. The video was published on the Telegram channel of the head of the Chechen region.
    The posted footage shows Adam Kadyrov receiving the Order of Merit for the Kabardino-Balkarian Republic from Kokov. At the same time, he has a pistol in his holster. Weapons expert Alexander Kudryashov suggested that the son of the head of Chechnya took with him an Austrian Glock 34 pistol. “The pistol has a square bolt - few pistols have a square bolt, also the rear sight is black, inserted into gold, and the rear plug on the bolt is also black,” - he clarified.

    URA.RU November 09, 2023
    The children of the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov, including Akhmat, Eli and Adam, were awarded the Order of Daimekhkan Siy (Honor of the Fatherland). The Minister of the Republic for National Policy, External Relations, Press and Information Akhmed Dudayev spoke about this.
  34. France
    France 13 November 2023 04: 53
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    Recent events related to Islam are symptoms of the emergence of Islamization in Russia. The process of Islamization in Russia has not yet fully entered the first stage (according to the author), but its risks cannot be ignored. The low birth rate in Russia in recent years is obvious to everyone. Attracting foreign labor to work in Russia through immigration policy remains one of the important tools for filling the labor shortage. Policymakers must consider how to reduce domestic risks while meeting national needs.
  35. barricade
    barricade 15 November 2023 11: 00
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    We Russians are to blame for all this. We can’t be heard, quiet voices, but Manezhka was there a long time ago. While Muslims can be heard, there are many of them and they act. Here is the result