Combat Swimmers: Warriors of the Three Elements

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Representatives of this unique military specialty in the hierarchy of any security agency always stand apart. Scout divers, underwater saboteurs, “frog people”, “live torpedoes”, “sea devils” ... They were called differently depending on the historical period and place of action, as well as the nature of the tasks performed. But at all times these people, rightly considered the best of the best, the elite of the special forces of any self-respecting state, were distinguished by the highest professionalism and impenetrable veil of secrecy, which is wrapped in their hard men's work.
The question is when a person first went under water for military purposes, and to this day remains open. But the modern military profession of combat swimmers arose at the end of the First World War.

Combat Swimmers: Warriors of the Three Elements


Connected by one axis
In the summer of 1918, Italian military engineers fleet On the basis of conventional torpedoes, a transporter was designed, designed for the covert delivery of saboteurs to the target. This primitive semi-submarine mini-boat was able to reach speeds of just a little over 2 knots (3,74 km / h). The car was driven by a crew of two people who were sitting on a dashboard on horseback, and their heads and shoulders protruded above the water when moving. Despite all the clumsiness of the apparatus from a technical point of view, in combat conditions the know-how has fully justified itself. On the night of November 1 to 2, two Italian officers quietly managed to get to the Austrian battleship Viribus Unitis and place mines with clockwork on the underwater side of the side. As a result of a powerful explosion, a warship with a displacement of 21 thousand tons sank.
With the coming to power of Mussolini in 1929, Italy began active preparations for a new war. Among other things, the British fleet dominating the Mediterranean was hindered by the Duce’s ambitious plans for the revival of the Roman Empire within the boundaries of the Octavian Augustus era. In order to effectively combat a stronger enemy, in March 1941 was formed the 10-I light flotilla MAS, underwater units led by the captain of the 2-rank of the Royal Italian Navy Prince Yunio Valerio Borghese, better known as the “black prince”.
Submarine units included a school for guided torpedoes, as well as a school of underwater saboteurs in San Leapoldo near Livorno. Here the cadets underwent thorough theoretical and practical training, learned to use oxygen devices, to make long-distance swims, to be under water for a long time, to overcome barriers and to install explosive devices. As a training, instructors liked to arrange two-kilometer marches along the seabed for the wards. The school of saboteurs was a closed world whose existence was kept in the strictest confidence. Volunteers wishing to become combat swimmers, underwent strict medical examinations and tests for psychological stability.
Prince Borghese's subordinates conducted their most successful operation in the winter of 1941 in Alexandria Harbor: six people, entering the strictly guarded port, blew up the British battleships Valiant and Queen Elizabeth, as well as sank the tanker. The battleships of the British were so severely damaged that in fact, before the surrender of Italy in September, 1943 never returned to service.
There were combat swimmers in the Third Reich. With non-standard ways of waging war at sea, the states of the fascist axis sought to at least somehow compensate for the frank weakness of their fleets. In March 1944, the command of the German Navy formed a subversive-assault compound "K" (short for the word "kleinkampfverband", literally - "combining a small battle"), which consisted of detachments of man-controlled torpedoes, exploding boats, single swimmers and submarines -mallies
The methods of combat training of submarine saboteurs in fascist Germany were, to put it mildly, very unusual. “Our group held the so-called“ small test of courage ”according to the method of Oplada,” the memoirs of one of the fighters of the compound said. - We, eight or ten people, were taken out into the open area and ordered to lie down on the ground with our heads to the center of an imaginary circle with a diameter of 4 m. Then a hand grenade was installed in the center, from which a safety check was pulled out. We counted seconds. There was an explosion, and the fragments flew over us. ” By the way, in the official curriculum such tricks were very prosaic name: the cultivation of personal initiative.
Connection "K" conducted a lot of successful operations, the most significant of which include the destruction of the lock in the port of Antwerp, the undermining of bridges across the rivers Orn and Waal in Holland and the Oder in East Germany. It was the Germans who first used light divers to carry out river sabotage, as well as the destruction of important military installations on the coast, which terribly annoyed the Soviet troops advancing towards Berlin. It is reliably known that two combat swimmers, remaining in the rear of the advancing Red Army and planning the next operation, learned about the defeat of Germany only on May 12! In April, 1945, even distraught with fear, rushing around in a bunker under the imperial office, Hitler requested, at his direct order, personal security from the soldiers of the “K” unit.



Roth goes under water
In the Soviet Union, the idea of ​​creating reconnaissance divers was first expressed on the eve of the war with Finland. Already the first training of combat swimmers in October 1938 in the Pacific Fleet proved the right of this bold idea to exist. The saboteurs cut the anti-submarine network that defended the entrance to the bay, secretly stepped ashore, conducted demonstrative sabotage actions and returned to the submarine waiting for them.
A month after the start of World War II, in the last days of July 1941, the question arose of evacuating a diving school from Vyborg. Reporting to the command of the Navy about the current situation, Rear Admiral F. Krylov, head of a special purpose underwater operation expedition, expressed concern that valuable, well-trained diving personnel could be lost in the confusion. The admiral saw an exit in the creation of a special reconnaissance unit from among the cadets of the school, whose fighters, using light-diving equipment, would make raids to the rear of the enemy. On August 11, the People's Commissar of the Navy signed the order No. 72 on the formation of a staff of the special purpose company (RON) in the 146 staff at the intelligence department of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet. The place where the company was based was the island of Goloday. On the recommendation of Krylov, an experienced diver was appointed commander of the first part of the combat swimmers in our country. Mv Frunze, Lieutenant Ivan Prokhvatilov.
The basis of the tactics of the actions of his unit Prokvpilov laid ... lightning raids of the troops of Nestor Makhno, which the future officer witnessed when he was still in his childhood. “They flew to a village or a city, did their job and sunk into the water! Dissolved. They hid rifles and machine guns and turned into serviceable peasants. Look for them later! ”Wrote Prokhvadilov in his diary entries. The diving equipment, vehicles on water, walkie-talkies, and even small weapon pro-Quad members did, literally, from scrap materials.
According to veterans of the RON who survived to our day, there were no hopeless situations and impossible tasks for the pioneers of the Russian underwater special forces. During the war years they carried out a number of successful and unique operations of their kind. Prokhvakilov's subordinates threw grenades at the Italian speedboats from the legendary 10 MAS flotilla transferred to the area of ​​Strelna, which were a great threat to our ships. Thanks to naval reconnaissance aircraft, launch pads for firing of blockade Leningrad with V-1 rockets, which the Germans were building near Luga, were discovered and destroyed from the air. In September, 1944 divers took part in a survey of the German U-250 submarine north-west of Ruonti Island. In addition to secret documents and an encryption machine, samples of Reich's secret weapon were raised from the bottom - torpedoes homing through the acoustic channel.
The bold raids of the Baltic on the enemy’s rear deserve a separate word. It is said that once a group of “Ronovtsev” dressed in German uniforms even helped the fascists to load a car with secret documents. Of course, one of the boxes scout divers took with them.
In the autumn of 1945, the command of the General Staff of the Navy decided to disband the company "as unnecessary in peacetime." For almost a decade, the unique experience of the RON was literally consigned to oblivion. Only by the end of 50-x new realities forced the military leadership of the country to recreate the special forces of the Navy.



Swam, saw, won
In the post-war years, the Soviet naval special forces were faced with the following tasks: reconnaissance on coastal directions, destruction of mobile launchers, command posts, air defense systems, hydraulic structures and enemy ships. In parallel with these units, on each of the four fleets, there were so-called units of submarine anti-sabotage forces and equipment (PPSSS) created to protect our naval bases from enemy swimmers.
By the way, it was in the system of formations of PPDSS that special stations for animal training emerged. Dolphins, beluga whales, sea lions, were trained to look for various objects on the seabed, to conduct underwater surveys, to find and destroy enemy diving scouts. Finally, the animals themselves were used as underwater saboteurs: a mine was attached to their backs, which they were to deliver to the bottom of the ship or submarine and set in motion there, destroying the ship, and with it themselves.
The system of training special forces and anti-sabotage groups of the Navy was strikingly different from the methods used in other security agencies. It all began with a hard selection of candidates for the "amphibian people." For six months, conscripts who had the skills of scuba diving and sports discharges were trained according to a special program, where the physical and psychological loads were close to the limit. One such test was a night march without specifying the distance and run time.
After the transfer from the training to the combat unit, the “conscripts” began theoretical and practical exercises. The obligatory course included diving, airborne, navigational-topographical, mountain special, maritime, physical training, mine-blasting, hand-to-hand combat, survival in any conditions, study of foreign armies and theaters of military operations, radio equipment and so on. Since the specifics of the service provided for the conduct of combat, including under water, in addition to the usual small arms, the special forces had SPP-1 submarine pistols and no automatic counterparts APS.
Delivery of combat swimmers to the objects could be carried out by land, sea and air. Landing was carried out from very low altitudes, which significantly increased the risk. But the special forces sailors were not used to this. “The jumps were carried out without a spare parachute, since the time under the dome was still calculated in seconds. High preparedness allowed us to jump without injuries at wind speed 14 m / s, and at some exercises I had the opportunity to parachute at wind 17 m / s, ”recalls Alexei Budnev, a former naval special forces swimmer. An interesting fact: parachutist badges with the number of perfect jumps were forbidden for sailors to wear. And how then to hide the belonging of a fighter to a special naval intelligence service, if he has a chevron of diving service on his sleeve, and the “Parachutist-excellent student” badge is on his chest?
The versatility of the special forces of the Navy, its ability to perform tasks in any of the three elements was in demand. Combat swimmers guarded Soviet vessels during the youth festival in Cuba in 1978, accompanied by President of the USSR Gorbachev underwater escort during foreign visits to Reykjavik and Malta. For three days, 16 special forces, replacing each other, were on combat duty under water, with orders to shoot at any moving target within 200 radius from the protected object.
Swimmers had to solve not exactly “core” tasks, such as neutralization of unexploded ordnance, search in cooperation with the Ministry of Internal Affairs of dangerous criminals in mountainous and wooded areas, elimination of the consequences of man-made disasters. Several times a year, units of naval special forces were engaged to inspect military and civilian facilities inside the country: they “mined” strategic railroad bridges, secretly penetrated the territory of secret naval bases and nuclear power plants.
Alexey Budnev tells about one of these examinations for vigilance: “In July, 1986 was given us the task: to deceive the border guards and cross the sea cordon by entering the“ foreign vessel ”- the ship of intermediaries in 6 miles from the coast. They coped, although the city was full of alarm guards. In broad daylight, under the guise of having a rest, wearing “wet” diving equipment under clothing, saboteurs leaked one by one to the storming sea through “holes” in border secrets and patrols. The first 70 m passed under water, and then applied a special swimming technique without scuba gear. Hiding behind the crests of the waves, they passed the border boats and made another 10 km in the stormy sea. ”
The fighters of the “underwater front” also had more serious tasks. For six years, the military swimmers of the Soviet Navy served to guard the Dakhlak base in Ethiopia. They left the port surrounded by Eritrean troops on the last Soviet ship.
After the collapse of the Union, the most combat-ready part of the naval special forces remained under the banner of "independent" Ukraine. But the elite is the elite, to honor out of any situation. The special units existing today in the Russian Navy are in no way inferior to their Soviet predecessors, and even surpass them in certain matters.



"Ihtiandry" of the special services
In other power departments of our country, own divisions of combat swimmers appeared a bit later than in the Ministry of Defense. Although story the training of such specialists in state security agencies began with a separate special-purpose brigade. Continuing the traditions of the first special KGB divers were employees of the Vympel group. In the hierarchy of the elite subdivision, these specialists occupied the top rung, since along with the training that was common to all of the Vampahelinists, they became qualified combat swimmers. The tasks confronting them were mainly of an intelligence nature. For example, working out channels for transferring illegal immigrants and special-purpose groups, working with coastal agents, setting up large-size caches. The main object, where the vamps, were trained several times a year, was the Poseidon base in the Caspian Sea.
Vladimir Butov, a former commander of the Vympel combat swimmers department, recalls that although his subordinates were in many ways inferior to the navy divers, some methods and techniques that corresponded to the specific tasks of illegal intelligence were nevertheless better mastered. For example, under the water, the pennants walked at a depth from 1 to 3 m. In this corridor, the greatest water turbulence and very low air flow. In addition, acoustic instruments and battle dolphins do not react to a moving reconnaissance aircraft. It is extremely difficult to sail in this mode, but this is aerobatics for a diver.
Swimmers from Vympel, together with colleagues from Alpha, and engaged in the protection of the top leadership of the USSR 9 KGB Directorate worked to ensure security from the sea state cottages Bocharov Ruchey, Foros, Riviera. “Once, together with Alpha, we conducted an“ attack ”on one of the state dachas. In the middle of a white day, nine people landed from a boat, reached the coast under water, carried out an act of terrorism against a conditionally protected person and left by sea. The operation took 40 seconds, and the guards reacted only after 1,5 minutes, when we had already sailed away, ”says Vladimir Butov.
The marine units existing in the structure of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs also have detachments of divers of the anti-sabotage service. There are only two such unique parts in Russia. One of them is the Murmansk regiment guarding atomic icebreakers and the Atomflot repair and technology enterprise, which is engaged in recharging nuclear reactors, collecting and storing radioactive waste. The second is a separate battalion, whose fighters perform similar tasks in the Far East. In addition, individual companies and platoons are stationed in all industrial centers located near large bodies of water. There are combat swimmers in the structure of the Federal Guard Service. The duties of these past special officers include checking the Moscow River around the Kremlin, guarding the waters of all presidential residences.
Today, the number of “frog people” in the service in the central and territorial divisions of various law-enforcement agencies of Russia is approaching 2 thousand. A drop in the sea, given the total number of domestic "siloviki." And yet ... Many of the tasks solved by these people seem to be impossible. But the very fact that the enemy eliminates even the possibility of their fulfillment allows the combat swimmers to achieve success again and again.



Our reference
Most historians believe that combat swimmers appeared simultaneously with the first sea battles that broke out between the Persians and the Greeks in 480 BC. According to Herodotus, Hellyne Skill and his daughter Gidna from Skion Island, whose inhabitants were known as skilled swimmers, dived to the enemy ships and cut the anchor ropes. The terrible storm that had happened at night smashed several dozen Persian warships against coastal cliffs. Thus, the feat of Skilla can be considered the first sabotage operation successfully carried out by combat swimmers in the history of mankind.
Especially effectively used divers in ancient Rome. There even existed a special unit (“urinatores”), whose tasks in addition to reconnaissance and sabotage in enemy ports included underwater inspection and repair of their own ships. Tactical methods of divers were also improved: the Romans allowed the enemy's vessels to the bottom, drilling holes in the sides with drills, imperceptibly for the sleeping team to tow them to their ports, take to the boarding, suddenly appearing directly from under the water.
During the battle for the Spanish fortress Andelis in 1203, Arab swimmers blew up one of its walls thanks to a barrel of gunpowder laid in the underwater part of the foundation. The Turks who besieged in 1565 the bastion of Knights and Ioanites in Malta also destroyed the coastal batteries of Christians with powder mines, which were installed by divers.
At the beginning of the 16th century, the brilliant Italian Leonardo da Vinci created a revolutionary breathing apparatus for his time based on compressed air cylinders and a prototype for a spacesuit to move at depth. The fact that the invention was intended solely for military needs, is eloquently illustrated by explanatory notes made by the engineer-scientist himself: “Fix the owners of the galley and the rest of the floods, and then fire the bombardment base ... It's all under water, the whole cycle”.
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  1. +10
    19 January 2013 10: 09
    200 grams per elite! I saw men in military training !!! Just respect and respect! The catch itself and envy white envy ........ drinks
  2. +7
    19 January 2013 10: 18
    Thank you for the article.
    I read about training combat swimmers. The last test was a tunnel ending in a grate. The grate rose a few minutes before the swimmer's balloon ended. The purpose of this test was to find out how a fighter works in a hopeless situation (he will start to dash and panic or will look for an opportunity to get out, raise the grill, etc.). Tough, but apparently necessary.
    1. +4
      19 January 2013 22: 05
      Quote: GEORGE
      . The purpose of this test was to find out how a fighter works in a hopeless situation (he will start to dash and panic or will look for an opportunity to get out, raise the grill, etc.). Tough, but apparently necessary.

      This test is much simpler. I remember (I was called to the PDSS, the fleet’s ballet), the weather served, then the company was reshaped and scattered to wherever.
      You sit at the bottom of the pool in a circle, 5-6 fighters and an officer, and the apparatus is one for all, one sighed and handed it over to the other, at first calmly. but through the 2-3 of the circle the intervals increase involuntarily, so it’s very difficult to stay and not sniff. It is not true that there was a tunnel with a lattice; it is not realistic to calculate the amount of oxygen in the cylinders (and even in the isolation bubbleless kit). It all depends on weight, heart rate, lung volume, etc. . and we paid great attention to safety. 0 Therefore, no one would take risks with a grill. There are simpler methods for determining. You used to swim, and the instructor officer will cut the breathing tube or tear the mouthpiece and cut the cylinders, but you cannot jump out, from 20-25 meters 15min. Lift so that you don’t get the box. Here you are looking for the device on the bottom or switch to the reserve. And I want to jump out so much, just a scribe.
      1. webdog
        +1
        19 January 2013 22: 31
        atalef, what was your "bubble-free isolation kit" called? and was he equipped with a mouthpiece for free holding? and please also name the brand of dry suit used in the PDSS? and what is its peculiarity when diving?
        and what the underwater radio looks like)))
        just wondering. this is no longer a secret.
      2. +1
        20 January 2013 08: 30
        Well, to climb from 20-25 meters for 15 minutes you need to stay there for 3 hours, so I disagree with you. Such exercises for mental stability are now part of the training of divers who receive a certificate giving the right to dive in caves (this is aerobatics), sunken ships and "deep" (more than 5m) if the instructor is "correct" then the courses are "fun". It was made much easier around the pool - at first 42-5 cylinders were placed on the bottom at the beginning, and a group of 6-4 people "drew" this square, gradually the number of cylinders decreased in 5 weeks, and there was only one. then they just swam for 2 minutes.
      3. Zynaps
        0
        20 January 2013 17: 47
        Quote: atalef
        but you can’t jump out, from 20-25 meters 15min. rise so that you don’t get a box


        buddy, don't tell tales. decompression sickness threatens when immersed to a depth of more than 30 m. at this depth, to ensure normal breathing, the pressure of the inhaled air should not be lower than 40 atm. and it is at this pressure that nitrogen dissolves in the blood. lifting from depths below 30 m is absolutely safe. This is the basics for anyone who, even as an amateur, dives with scuba diving.
        1. torwald
          0
          7 August 2014 06: 08
          The first mistake is that caisson disease can be obtained even with a sharp rise from a shallow depth. It all depends on the time spent at the bottom. For example, having been at a depth of 12 m for 2.5 hours, you should rise from this depth for at least 5 minutes.
          Data can be viewed from the dive planning table, for example, this one: http://www.scubadiverinfo.com/images/Dive_tables_NAUI.jpg
          Error two (or typo) - at a depth of 30 meters, the pressure of the inhaled air should be 4 (atmospheres).
          With a sharp ascent from a depth of 30 meters, in addition to DCS, you can get pulmonary embolism, about rupture of membranes and damage to other cavities if they are poorly "ventilated", I am silent.
  3. +5
    19 January 2013 10: 19
    Well done guys they are the best in the world !!!
  4. webdog
    +4
    19 January 2013 11: 17
    quote: "For example, the Pennants walked under water at a depth of 1 to 3 m. This corridor has the highest water turbulence and very low air consumption. In addition, for a moving scout acoustic devices and battle dolphins do not respond."
    it is not true. magnetic and beacons do not react when the swimmer in antimagnetic equipment (IDA-71P), but dolphins (beluga whales) react even if the swimmer lowered his feet in the fins from the boat into the water. at the same time, not less than 1 kilometer smile
    and here they say turbulence ...
    like so.
    1. +2
      20 January 2013 17: 56
      Sorry, but there is nonsense about dolphins in the text in the picture. Neither needles nor pistols were used for them. Experiments have shown that killing a man (a diver-saboteur) in any way for a dolphin is a very strong stress, after which he no longer recovers. Therefore, they were taught to simply rip off the masks and breathing apparatus from the swimmers, after which the latter surfaced and were discovered by the enemy. Steller sea lions and seals were taught to kill swimmers with poisoned needles - they have no "morality" applied to humans.
  5. +4
    19 January 2013 11: 19
    Thank God that there is still sanity in Russia that made it possible to maintain and improve structures with SUCH WARRIORS. Indeed, without pathos - ELITE!
  6. webdog
    +1
    19 January 2013 11: 50
    Quote: "One such test was a night march without specifying the distance and running time."

    more precisely, the distance is 100 km at night (from evening to morning, about 9,5 hours)
    in the morning the instructor gives a map and the fighter makes sure of the distance he has covered.
    if later they give a distance of 50 km, then the personnel overcome it with jokes-jokes)))
    1. 0
      19 January 2013 22: 13
      Quote: webdog
      in the morning the instructor gives a map and the fighter makes sure of the distance he has covered.
      if later they give a distance of 50 km, then the personnel overcome it with jokes-jokes)))

      We didn’t run so much (100km), but 25 km was more than once, but everything was difficult, at first we started with three-bolts (heavy diver, with such a copper (more precisely bronze) helmet and pood boots, then a light-diving suit (scuba gear or bubble-free sets) ), submarines with bullets like nails and four-shot pistols.
      There was preparation, but also outfits and guards, in general, sank at best 2-3 once a week (except for the winter that I did not find). There were tactics of underwater combat and work in a group, in general, having gone through the most difficult and then getting into the VKS , regretted that he could not succeed, but then Gorbachev signed an agreement to reduce armaments in Europe, and there were tank battalions in the Marine Corps, so everyone went under the knife.
      1. webdog
        0
        19 January 2013 23: 04
        so you served in pdss? then you caught us (or rather tried smile )
        apparently, the years of service are the same ... from 1989 to 1992. Russian city of Vladivostok.
        but I did not serve in the PDSS, but in the exact opposite direction ...
        1. 0
          19 January 2013 23: 22
          Quote: webdog
          so you served in pdss? then you caught us (or rather tried)
          apparently, the years of service are the same ... from 1989 to 1992. Russian city of Vladivostok.
          but I did not serve in the PDSS, but in the exact opposite direction ...

          Baltiysk, 1987 (unfortunately only half a year)
          The bubbleless device was IDA. Either 71, I don’t remember 72 roofing felts, it was a long time ago (26 years ago) and I only served there half a year before the reformation, so that I don’t pretend to special forces laurels, it’s just so pleasant memories where and what was . Then he got to the Military Space in Yevpatoria. Almost from under water into space, from north to south.
          1. webdog
            0
            19 January 2013 23: 54
            atalef, clear.
            I have an id "in contact" in my profile. contact the room, we'll talk.
            I hope you are registered in contact?
    2. Zynaps
      +1
      20 January 2013 17: 59
      you have strange jokes and jokes. I can’t remember the great joy of overcoming 50 km even on a summer night. not to mention the throw-out exercise with the delay and manual opening of the dome, landed, put the parachute in the bag and from the place of the drop to the MTD whatever you want. DZ happened over 50 km with a lighter. with overcoming the steppe, forest zone and river. some mothers in memory. and you’re some kind of ramba from the TV.

      standards for overcoming different distances are different. there is (or was) a standard when 10 hours were given per 12 km of distance.

      but for me, it doesn’t get worse than speeding 2 km, when it’s dark in your eyes, your lungs are ready to break and your heart is already beating. long distances are easier to run. or go.
  7. +4
    19 January 2013 13: 28
    I don’t know what they feel like, but for me it’s a hero, without any pathos.
  8. biglow
    +6
    19 January 2013 13: 43
    when dividing the Black Sea fleet, Ukraine got an empty base of combat swimmers with several midshipmen, most sailors refused to take the oath for the second time
    1. Dikremnij
      +1
      19 January 2013 19: 54
      But Ukraine moved the brigade to the shore, to Ochakov, several times re-formed, cut and cut the budget, which led to a logical ending - now the unit is not in the best condition.
      1. A1594
        +4
        20 January 2013 00: 39
        She is in a terrible state. all weapons, towing vehicles and equipment are outdated morally and physically. a hotel is being built on the island ..., but this year, on the territory of the Ochakov MP, two berths were built for the exit of sabotage boats ... (they represent a recess in the pier with a gently sloping visor going under the water.) pier. Everything is wonderful, only it was not Ukrainians who built it, but ... AMERICANS! and "turnkey". their military divers carried out all reconnaissance + training. and for some reason the whole thing was built right next to the torpedo warehouses. Cheto is somehow restless ... what if they left a surprise ... just in case ... if the ammunition detonates, half of the city will be demolished ... along with the port.
      2. A1594
        +3
        20 January 2013 01: 30
        but Maisky is now .... devastation .... the windows are broken ... everything is fucked abandoned ..
      3. Zynaps
        0
        20 January 2013 18: 22
        Ukraine actually transferred all the special forces under the Ministry of Internal Affairs. the army special forces are overwhelmed to the extreme. the scraps left over from the 4th Marine are actually living out their term. The most combat-ready is the Skat naval group in anti-terrorist struggle. it's the same with the ground special forces. The 17th regiment in the Old Crimea was immediately after Nezalezhnosti shoveled into the 10st airmobile regiment, which was liquidated a couple of five years ago, and some of the servicemen were transferred to Kirovograd, to the place of the former (and one of the most efficient in the SA) 1th regiment. there right now the Special Operations Center, also dragging out a miserable existence. about the former 9th obrspn who remained in Izyaslav is not aware. like, it still exists in a truncated form. on the other hand, in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, a separate mountain rifle company "Lavender" of the Special Forces, a separate battalion "Cobra" of the Special Forces and a company of secret operations "Shadow" are doing quite well. but they are being sharpened for anti-terror and countering bandit groups. in case of war, they (it seems) should be transferred to the army and navy.
    2. Axel
      0
      19 January 2013 21: 45
      It turns out that after the section I served alone on Maysky
      1. Father Maysky
        +1
        20 January 2013 04: 30
        Yes, there are not many of us ..) A good article, thank you ..
    3. A1594
      0
      20 January 2013 01: 38
      stupidity ... enough is left.
    4. A1594
      +1
      20 January 2013 01: 52
      stupidity ... enough is left.
    5. Zynaps
      0
      20 January 2013 18: 12
      Ukraine inherited the entire 17th brigade of maritime special forces. moreover, her then commander, Colonel Karpenko, several times sent telegrams to Moscow stating that he was being pressured from Kiev to take a new oath. actual agreement came from Moscow and the brigade (or rather, then there was already MCI) swore allegiance to Ukraine in almost full force. there were refuseniks - then they were transferred to other fleets.

      I will say more. during the well-known conflict at the beginning of 1992 in Sevastopol around the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet, when the two fleets nearly clashed in an armed conflict, the new Ukroflot command managed to put together nearly a dozen groups of divers-scouts who penetrated the waters of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and were just waiting for the shooting to begin between Russian marines and Ukrainian naval hijackers. then there was a serious alarm on the ships of the Black Sea Fleet, for a dozen naval saboteurs inside the base with all their belongings were a serious force.

      it then - yes - at Mayskoye everything was changed, starting from working with people. in the 95th, the Crimean bandits had no problems in specialists from former naval saboteurs during the showdown. in Simferopol, all kinds of businesses and their real estate were blown up so cleanly that you wondered: the object was smashed to pieces, no one was hurt around, except for a few windows knocked out.
  9. +2
    19 January 2013 13: 50
    These guys can only be proud and envious of white envy!
  10. +3
    19 January 2013 15: 30
    Honor and glory to the children who dedicated their lives to this difficult service. Sincerely.
  11. fenix57
    +1
    19 January 2013 15: 43
    I can only join the wishes: GOOD LUCK, YOU ARE VERY NEEDED RUSSIA. soldier drinks
  12. Kir
    +2
    19 January 2013 17: 20
    A deep bow and Huge gratitude to the Real Elite! Special thanks to the author and gratitude, but as they say not without a spoonful of tar in a bunker with honey:
    There is no story about the foundation of EPRON6 year and the reasons leading to education
    There is no indication that the black prince is not the first chef of the 10th diving, and he himself, as a person, is worthy of a separate article, even though the enemy
    Nothing is said about the British and other countries of similar units (at least as a historical reference)
    What standard armament was before the adoption of the APS and PPS
    Regarding the historical background, well, in general, there are a lot of questions, for example, judging by some authors, the Romans were good warriors only on land, all the same, what is connected with the sea, like the hired Greeks. the same as the Portuguese in the service of the Spanish crown (Magelan, Columbus, etc.). besides, there is no mention of Southeast Asia, there swimmers and deversants are the same we say not born yesterday.
    I dare to hope that the cycle will be continued, and the undisclosed aspects and questions will be gradually covered.
  13. +1
    19 January 2013 23: 23
    A. V. Zagortsev, "Sailor of Special Purpose", wrote about the training of combat swimmers in the late 80s - early 90s. I recommend.
    1. +1
      20 January 2013 14: 07
      Read, read. Really described in a very simple language and without any show off. Because as the MUZHIK wrote, who later pulled the official strap in full.
  14. 0
    20 January 2013 00: 44
    Respect, impressive !!!
  15. peaker
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    20 January 2013 02: 11
    Yes, not beyond humans ... but just intelligence from the Navy! Warriors of the three elements! May the Sailboats and the Halaluyts live!
    1. webdog
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      20 January 2013 11: 28
      peaker, what do you know about Halalay? Have you been to an island or have friends? smile
      1. +2
        20 January 2013 11: 33
        Quote: webdog
        ? Have you been to an island or have friends?

        The famous unit, in 1999-2000, the former fighters of this detachment organized several attempts to kill large crime bosses. Several successful, and several failed.
        1. 0
          20 January 2013 14: 10
          However .. used for other purposes. To eliminate it is better to use snipers and sappers. Especially in urban environments.
          I don’t think that they did it themselves, in an amateur way (in the sense of their own decision)
          1. +1
            21 January 2013 06: 11
            Quote: Mairos
            To eliminate it is better to use snipers and sappers. Especially in urban environments

            It was snipers that they used.
            Quote: Mairos
            I don’t think they did it themselves.

            Well, yes, for a lot of money.
      2. RR
        RR
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        20 January 2013 19: 42
        I visited them twice and all as if I will not come some kind of garbage. The snow had just melted and they found two of their snowdrops in the hills without their heads (the bandits from Vladik tried their best because of the weapons), the officer was all joking in front of the women in the office, "You can go fishing for great maggots." And the second time on the opposite side of the bay the boat sank cold water, the sailors were helped not to drown. Then everyone chatted that they needed to dive for junk, they transported something of value, and what I don't remember.
  16. +2
    20 January 2013 07: 34
    One of the most hidden units. Specialists and fish know about their exploits. But the fish are silent and the ends are all under water. Respect and respect for the conquerors of the three elements!

    The photo is not clear where it got from request
  17. 0
    20 January 2013 17: 52
    About dolphins in the picture in the text is nonsense. Experiments have shown that killing a swimmer in any way is very stressful for a dolphin, after which he no longer recovers. Therefore, they were taught to simply rip off the masks and breathing apparatus from the swimmers, after which the latter surfaced and were found. Steller sea lions and seals were taught to kill swimmers with poisoned needles - they had no "morality" applied to humans.
  18. Foreman
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    20 January 2013 20: 03
    It’s a pity that another 17th brigade was given to Ukraine,

    it is a pity that Ukraine did not pull the content of such a steep part!
    1. Nevsky
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      20 January 2013 20: 20
      It is a pity that it was 1985, then pity 1991, then pity 2004, then unjustified "pity" 2010, .... recourse
  19. +1
    20 January 2013 20: 28
    The article is interesting, but the author may be mistaken about the base of the "Vympelovites" in the Caspian Sea. I read in the book "Commandos: History, Special Operations" by A. Taras, the publishing house "Harvest", according to the recollections of the "Vympelovites", which are given in the book, the base was on the island of Balkhash. There are decent depths, and the water is salty. Yes, and according to the meaning it was better to keep such a base in the depths of the mainland - approaches are difficult, it is noticeable on the steppes of aliens, and on the sea coast it is possible to observe from a potential enemy. in a book about Italian swimmers, the guided torpedo was designed in the thirties, so the author is wrong about the First World War.
  20. submar
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    22 January 2013 17: 32
    Pacific Fleet was the first in the USSR in the development of methods and means of marine intelligence. The idea of ​​creating reconnaissance divers units in the USSR was first expressed at the Pacific Fleet in 1938 by colonels of the medical service I. Savichev, N. Krivoshenko and first-rank captain G. Krol. They also own the idea of ​​using an individual breathing apparatus (IDA) for reconnaissance and sabotage activities. Having proved its viability, they justified the need to create divisions of scout divers and formulated their tasks. However, 15 years passed before the special forces of the Navy were created, which are now part of the fleets of Russia. (WHERE THE “MARINE DEVILS” Yuri Kolesnikov. Magazine “Bratishka” No. 10/2001) It was I. Savichev and and N. Krivoshenko with V. Prokhvatilov in 1941 went to the Baltic. And G. Fu Krol, after the war, led 40 research institutes for ACS.
  21. 0
    28 January 2013 00: 06
    Somehow one foreign specialist was asked ... what are the coolest experts in his opinion, he answered in the summer that probably the Soviet ones because it’s less known about the work of the specialists of other countries and there isn’t any information about the Soviet ones, well, let’s say there was a case in Vietnam when an unknown team raided the airdrome and stole the latest air-to-air missiles and at the same time lost the roofing felts of one of the roofing felts of two fighters and they and they were definitely not Vietnamese, he wanted to say that the profile of specialists is secretly fast and efficient and we can say for sure about our specialists that when they work they work without noise and at a high professional level.
  22. Misantrop
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    28 January 2013 00: 11
    Quote: Bosk
    about the work of specialists from other countries, it’s not known much more, but about Soviet information there isn’t

    I met with Bushkov (and not only) information about how the pirates of Madame Wong seized the wrong ship. And then almost everything died for an unknown reason. Judging by the fact that if it were any other special forces, they would definitely have shot a couple of cool militants about it ... Bushkov is not so right about that ... winked
    1. 0
      28 January 2013 20: 46
      Well, Bushkova, I also read at one time ... this is fiction, I had in mind documentary evidence.
  23. enot555
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    31 January 2013 20: 08
    I respect these guys very much !!!