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Chinese Type 54B: no longer quite frigates

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Chinese Type 54B: no longer quite frigates

The Chinese made an interesting move. Their new Type 54B frigate is reportedly much closer to the Type 52 destroyers than the Type 54A frigates. The approximate dimensions of the ship are 147 meters long and 18 meters wide, that is, their estimated displacement is about 6000 tons.


The supposed weapons are also by no means “frigate” weapons. 100 mm artillery mount and 32-cell UVP. For now, we can only guess about short-range anti-aircraft weapons. Most likely, the 11-barreled 30 mm H/PJ-11 automatic cannon located in front of the bridge is generally similar to the configuration of the Type 052D and Type 055 destroyers. The new ship should receive a multi-purpose Z-20 helicopter, instead of the lighter and less capable Z- 9, used on type 054A. At least the dimensions of the hangar and aft deck allow its landing and placement.

As for the power plant, there are only guesses. Type 54A had a power plant consisting of four SEMT PIELSTICK 16 PA6V - 280 STC diesel engines operating through gearboxes with two propellers. Total power 25 hp. With. But since the 320B type is significantly larger, most likely its power plant will be gas turbine, possibly with some variations.

Some Western authors draw analogies with the French-Italian "FREMM". Indeed, the visual similarity of the ships is quite noticeable, the only mast of the FREMM is located next to the chimney, and the Chinese ship has a stern mast integrated with the chimney into a single structure, which is much better from the point of view of radar visibility. Although now almost all ships are built using stealth technology, so they are all quite similar. However, the Chinese frigate has a noticeably higher radar antenna compared to the French-Italian version, and accordingly the radio horizon will be significantly wider.

There is little information about the American Constellation; no one has ever seen it in hardware. But it is already being tipped to become the main competitor of the 54B type, since the size and functionality of the ships are similar. However, this is still in the realm of theory, since the plans of the Americans may change, and the plans of the Chinese are not known to anyone at all. However, given the capabilities of Chinese shipbuilding, type 54B can be built as many as the CPC Central Committee orders.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 2 November 2023 07: 32
    +4
    - And we? What are we going to do?
    - What to do? What to do? ENVY
    1. Passing
      Passing 2 November 2023 08: 29
      -2
      I don't know much about maritime affairs, but why do we need more frigates? Project power, demonstrate a flag? A pair of frigates in the port of Syria, without the escort of a full-fledged aircraft carrier, several UDC and BDK, supported by a significant flotilla of supply ships, will not impress anyone. Will we pull the AUG? And most importantly, do we really need it? And frigates, outside the AUG, what should they do that is vital for us? Protect the coastal zone? So hypothetical corvettes specially tailored for this will be hidden away. Should SSBNs enter the operational space to be protected? Well, we have a number of ocean-going ships, even if they continue to be guarded, we can even modernize them.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 2 November 2023 09: 26
        +2
        Quote: Passing by
        A couple of frigates... won't impress anyone.

        Warships are not built for “impression,” but to solve specific problems.

        Quote: Passing by
        Will we pull the AUG?

        The question is already a rhetorical one.
        Today (yesterday and tomorrow) there are no insurmountable technical obstacles to the implementation of this project, the whole question is desire and financing.

        Quote: Passing by
        And most importantly, do we really need it?

        It depends on what goals they will set for the country in the future. If you play a purely regional role (such as Vietnam/Iran), then it is not necessary, because it is redundant/expensive, but if Russia is one of the key world players, then it needs a strong multi-purpose Fleet, and there is no alternative. Well, a Fleet without aircraft carriers will ALWAYS be inferior to a Fleet with aircraft carriers - this rule has not lost its relevance.

        Quote: Passing by
        And frigates, outside the AUG, what should they do that is vital for us? Protect the coastal zone? So hypothetical corvettes specially tailored for this will be hidden away

        If all Russia’s interests are limited to a 200-mile economic zone, then you are right, corvettes (aviation and non-nuclear submarines) are “for the eyes.” And if it is necessary to solve problems somewhere further, then you cannot do without frigates/destroyers/MAPLs.

        Quote: Passing by
        ..so we have a number of ocean-going ships, even if they continue to be guarded, we can even modernize them.

        No matter how much you modernize the ocean-going “ships” of the Soviet era, the resource of the metal does not last forever. New ones need to be built. But the trouble is, the program for building a multi-purpose Fleet must be thought out 30-50 years in advance. It is impossible to solve this kind of problem even in a decade...
        1. Kruglov
          Kruglov 2 November 2023 10: 09
          +1
          Unfortunately, in the future, for at least 50 years, we will clearly not have such luxury in the navy. And we must not forget that after the current SVO, it will take at least 20 years to put in order the entire range of weapons currently in use, including those being developed. So: “There is no money. But you hold on!”
      2. svp67
        svp67 2 November 2023 13: 48
        +1
        Quote: Passing by
        but why do we need more frigates?

        This is something that can now reach far sea and ocean zones.
        Quote: Passing by
        A pair of frigates in the port of Syria,

        And there must be dozens of them.
        Quote: Passing by
        And frigates, outside the AUG, what should they do that is vital for us? Protect the coastal zone?

        No, they are not for protecting the coastal zone, but for cruising and disrupting transport operations, if necessary.
        Quote: Passing by
        Well, we have a number of ocean-going ships,

        So frigates are now those OCEAN ships
        1. bayard
          bayard 3 November 2023 04: 06
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          They are not for protecting the coastal zone, but for cruising and disrupting transport operations, if necessary.

          To disrupt transport in our conditions, it is better to rely on MAPL. But to ensure freedom of navigation for your Merchant Fleet and escort convoys of merchant ships during a threatened period and to control the strait zones of DM and OZ, this is just the thing.
          But so far our Fleet is too limited in its operational capabilities by surface forces.
    2. TermNachTer
      2 November 2023 12: 14
      +2
      Envy, in a good way, of course, yes. But there is one positive moment in all this, for Russia, at least at this historical stage. The stronger the Chinese fleet, the more problems the mattress makers will have. Accordingly, they will do less harm to Russia. And then - God knows?
      1. bayard
        bayard 4 November 2023 02: 11
        +2
        Quote: TermNachTER
        And then - God knows?

        Unless all plans for shipbuilding and ship repair are radically revised, then next year could bring us a very serious strengthening of the Navy. The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft and the Admiral Nakhimov nuclear cruiser will have to return from modernization. At the same time, the assigned resource for Nakhimov after modernization (drum roll) is 35 years! Essentially, this is a new ship in an old, but very durable hull. In addition, it is expected that two new frigates, Projects 22350 and 22350.1, “Admiral Isakov” and “Admiral Amelko” will be transferred to the Navy (two more frigates, “Chichagov” and “Yumashev”, should also be delivered in 2025); 1155 and the destroyer Ave. "Sarych" of the Northern Fleet. But this is, in total, a ready-made and very powerful AUG\KUG. I don’t consider Corvettes - this is for BMZ. But... if funding has been reduced... there will again be transfers to the law.
        By the way, the fact that Nakhimov was assigned a resource after modernization at 35 years old removes all questions about the fate of the modernization of Peter the Great. Such a resource after modernization justifies such costs, and the time should definitely take significantly less, because the entire project and all new systems will already be worked out, and the industry will be ready.
        Significant hopes and optimism are inspired by reports of the start of assembly of the first D-500 marine diesel engines with a capacity of 10 hp. The appearance of such a diesel engine opens up great opportunities in the construction of more powerful/larger frigates, light PLO corvettes (Super-Karakurt with two D-000, two UKSK, "Package-NK", BUGAS and a submersible on the foot GAS, "Pantsir-M" and a cannon , in VI 500 - 1200 tons), large BDK (1500 - 8 tons VI on two D-000), UDC VI 10 - 000 tons on a power plant of four D-500 (architecture similar to Chinese Type. 15), integrated supply ships and tankers of the Navy DM and OZ and many other useful things.
        If we add to all this the launch of a series of large frigates/destroyers, Project 22350M, at several shipyards at once, then things could soon become seriously cheerful for our Navy.
        But for this it is necessary to win an unconditional Victory in the Northern Black Sea region and restore the territorial integrity of Russia within its historical borders... There is a lot of work.
        1. TermNachTer
          4 November 2023 02: 37
          +1
          The news is certainly good. Even if the timing shifts to the right, the return of Kuznetsov and Nakhimov to service is simply wonderful. I did not believe and do not believe that “Peter” would be written off. The cruiser is still in good shape. I can add to yours that “Chabanenko” will also complete the repairs, I would like to know how significant. The Kerch UDCs will most likely also shift to the right, but there is no particular need for them yet. In general, everything is not bad, of course we are far from the Chinese, but we have different tasks.
  2. faiver
    faiver 2 November 2023 09: 52
    -1
    Everything said above is true - all that remains is to envy....
  3. Dedok
    Dedok 2 November 2023 11: 37
    -2
    Quote: svp67
    - And we? What are we going to do?
    - What to do? What to do? ENVY


    no, blow the snot into a bubble...
    and most likely, the “people” from the Moscow Region are working on a new “scheme” for cutting the budget
    1. TermNachTer
      3 November 2023 09: 27
      0
      Schemes for cutting the budget, including the military budget, are available in every country in the world. Therefore, don’t be too upset)))