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Ramzan Kadyrov: “A true Chechen must be an example of behavior in society”

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The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, met with the Minister of the Czech Republic for Youth Affairs Khozh-Baudi Daayev and the Minister of the Czech Republic for National Policy, Press and Information Murad Tagiyev.

The issues of the implementation of youth policy and programs for the spiritual and moral development of the younger generation were discussed.
R. Kadyrov noted that a lot of attention is paid to young people in the Chechen Republic: decent conditions are created for studying, receiving a specialty, and assistance is provided for subsequent employment.

“But we should not disregard our young people who are outside the republic. It is unacceptable for young people to impose their own rules of behavior in the regions in which they live, and also to behave extremely defiantly in public places. We must not forget that they are citizens of Russia and are obliged to comply with the laws of the country, ”R. Kadyrov emphasized.

“I am outraged by the behavior of some natives of the Czech Republic, who behave provocatively, become participants in various fights, arrange dances in public places where it is not accepted. They must strictly adhere to generally accepted rules of conduct. If young people are unable or unwilling to observe them, let them return home, ”said the head of the republic.

At the same time, R. Kadyrov noted that the Chechen people, like any other, have spiritual and ethical norms of behavior in society that have developed over the centuries and, if we strictly adhere to them, there is no need to develop any new rules.

“The main thing is to remind young people about our national ethical code, about the unshakable requirements of traditions and customs. They oblige a true Chechen to be an example of behavior in any society, in any situation. And it is important to those who for some reason began to forget about these norms, promptly recall them, ”the Head of the Chechen Republic emphasized.

R. Kadyrov noted that Russia is a multinational state with a multitude of national cultures, traditions and ways that must be strictly followed. The same applies to Chechens living in European countries.

He gave examples of government intervention in Western countries in ordinary family conflicts, when parents scolded their children, and her husband raised his voice to his wife, etc.

“Chechens say that it is customary for us to be engaged in raising children, and they are told that if this is the case, then go home. If you live in our country, then respect and live according to our laws. And our compatriots, whether they like it or not, are forced to agree with this, ”R. Kadyrov concluded.

R. Kadyrov instructed the ministers present to work more actively in this direction.

“Work closely with the media, with the clergy, work with young people through social networks. Also, if necessary, involve in this work our deputies of the State Duma, the republican parliament, and leaders of community groups in the country's regions. In addition, it is necessary to create social videos about true national rules of behavior. You must travel to the regions of Russia more often to establish cultural ties. Do not leave without attention and the diaspora in European countries. Our main goal is to educate our youth cultural, purposeful, educated and friendly. We should be proud of it, and not be ashamed, ”said R. Kadyrov.
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  1. Sarus
    Sarus 11 January 2013 11: 31
    +7
    This statement was probably published again because of a thread of conflict with young representatives of this nationality.
    PS
    It is a pity that this is only talk.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 January 2013 11: 43
      +3
      Quote: Sarus
      This statement was probably published again because of what thread of conflict with young representatives of this nationality

      No, here the Chechens said in Moscow they shot a police car, that’s what it says.
    2. Mitek
      Mitek 11 January 2013 13: 00
      +21
      The problem is not the behavior of Caucasians. They never shone with intellect or culture (with rare exceptions). The first problem is impunity. Caucasians understand only brute force. Trying to explain something to them — Doom. Plant for a long time, shoot when trying to get a knife, or injury.
      The second and main problem is in us. The garbage that releases the Caucasians consists of Russians. Our people were corrupted, there was a substitution of values, and often their complete absence. I am a representative of the last generation born in the USSR .. I remember once in our country five Azeris and Dags beat a guy who stood up for a girl. The next day, three markets were broken up. The valiant mountaineers simply did not leave their homes or dumped home. What will happen now? NOTHING. For all my dislike for Caucasians, I pay tribute to their mutual assistance. They all go in for sports, do not mow from the Army (I know for what reasons, but the fact itself). Only when they know that they will receive an adequate rebuff will they begin to behave at least a little humanly. And in order for them to receive it, you must first just not pass by fights. And knowing the mentality of these "proud" peoples to arm themselves. If the Caucasian has no advantage, he is nobody. Now their advantages are cohesion (of course, five of them are more fun to kill one or two opponents) and weapons in a society of unarmed people.
      1. soaring
        soaring 11 January 2013 13: 27
        +3
        I agree to all 200% ... Mitek, you +++ good drinks
        1. Dinver
          Dinver 11 January 2013 15: 02
          -2
          At the expense of culture, in percentage terms they are much more culturally Russian than it’s not a shame to write it, but as they say in the family it’s not a freak, like any other nationality, a familiar bicycle traveler traveled to Chechnya, so I can tell you, we would be Russian they live in their own way, as they live there, there are no drunks in the streets, no one litter, and you will not even find smokers there, everywhere the order at the level of European cities is well-groomed. And to you (I write because in our Cherepovets there aren’t many of them like 15 years ago) either those who can’t work for themselves, or the majors of rich parents, I have an international attitude to the latter, they just need to be written .. and I’ll tell you from my experience that helps wonderful and sobering. The cyclist himself travels a lot in the area of ​​7 km per year both in winter and summer, meetings with majors / cattle on expensive cars occur on average 2-3 once a year.
          1. Mitek
            Mitek 11 January 2013 15: 29
            +1
            Are you sure that the Chechens are purely cultural there or (well, I don’t believe it) are working themselves? Something tells me that it’s purely there thanks to guest workers and huge financial injections .... If they themselves work, then they should be praised. And injections into the economy of Chechnya were not in vain.
            PS in my city now it’s also very clean) and there are a lot of fountains.
            1. Dinver
              Dinver 12 January 2013 09: 57
              +2
              No, of course I cannot be sure of this at 100%, but my friend got the impression and I have no reason to not trust him, again this is a view from a tourist, not a resident of this republic.

              At the expense of the "blacks" in my childhood, my neighbors from below were a large Gypsy family, and not those Gypsies from today's stereotypes (who sell drugs and do all sorts of wrong things), about ordinary workers, the house was a veteran and only veterans were given apartments in it wars where the father of their family fought, I don’t know, but he had a son and a daughter of my age, there were others, but I don’t remember them, and in the yard with other guys they always played and talked on an equal footing, my peers simply had no bias towards people with a different skin color, which appeared today. Perhaps this is why I cannot be prejudiced against the "blacks". Our city can be said to be 98% white, and to find a "bullshit" from blacks you need to work very hard and it’s not a fact that you will find it, and you don’t have to search among the Russians at least once a month or two, you will stumble upon it.

              PS I did not understand why put the cons, although I would have written specifically what we do not agree ...
  2. Manager
    Manager 11 January 2013 11: 39
    +4
    Well, in words then they are all true Dzhigits and role models.
  3. Leisure
    Leisure 11 January 2013 11: 40
    +7
    In general, everything is correct, but who would say it.
    1. dirty trick
      dirty trick 11 January 2013 16: 12
      +1
      +! indeed, the right words, but the impression is that they were spoken for journalists, and not for Chechen youth!
  4. Vadivak
    Vadivak 11 January 2013 11: 43
    +28
    About one young Chechen

    a young mountaineer decided to take a breeze ride at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Moscow. Around midnight on October 11, a Land Rover car drove at high speed into the territory of the Alexander Garden, turned around at the site near the Eternal Flame and disappeared. The "Interception" plan was announced in the city, half an hour later the car was detained on Tsvetnoy Boulevard. A 19-year-old student at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations was driving the car. Together with him in the car was a 20-year-old unemployed Muscovite, an 18-year-old resident of the Moscow region of Khimki and a 17-year-old girl who had arrived in Moscow from Saransk. An administrative protocol was drawn up against the offender, after which everyone was released.

    The young man who drove into the Alexander Garden to the Eternal Flame turned out to be the son of the owner of a large brewery from Chechnya, Sulian Taramov,

    What Russian could have thought such a thought? Well, if only his grandfather fought on the side of the Nazis
    1. SSR
      SSR 11 January 2013 11: 51
      +11
      Quote: Vadivak
      Intercept plan announced in town

      Quote: Vadivak
      An administrative protocol was drawn up against the violator, after which everyone was released

      That's really infuriating to arrange "Interception" to raise everyone's ears so that later to draw up an administrative protocol ((((
      Quote: Vadivak
      the son of the owner of a large brewery from Chechnya, Sulian Taramov,

      And of course this pub owner has good "friends" in the Ministry of Internal Affairs .....
      1. _N_O_S_
        _N_O_S_ 11 January 2013 11: 55
        +4
        Everything, as always in our country ... why be surprised? Strange why at all cops the policemen went to catch them ......
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 11 January 2013 12: 10
          +10
          Vdurg it would have turned out to be "Russian" them at once in the asphalt and for 5 years on the bunk!
      2. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 11 January 2013 12: 05
        +10
        And of course this pub owner has good "friends" in the Ministry of Internal Affairs .....
        Well, who is more of a Chechen freak or a "friend in the Interior Ministry"? And there were three more people with the Chechen in the car from Moscow, Khimki, Saransk. True, nationality is not indicated. It may be right to first condemn your corrupt cops, and only then take up the "animals"
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 11 January 2013 12: 08
      -1
      Quote: Vadivak
      The young man who drove into the Alexander Garden to the Eternal Flame turned out to be the son of the owner of a large brewery from Chechnya, Sulian Taramov

      I'm surprised.
      What is the size and volume of beer production at this LARGE BREWERY? belay
      1. TUNISIA
        TUNISIA 11 January 2013 13: 36
        +2
        Papakiko, you didn’t understand correctly: the owner of the plant is from Chechnya, and the plant itself is not located in Chechnya (Smolensk brewing company).
    3. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 11 January 2013 12: 27
      +4
      About one young Chechen

      a young mountaineer decided to take a breeze ride at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Moscow. Around midnight on October 11, a Land Rover car drove at high speed into the territory of the Alexander Garden, turned around at the site near the Eternal Flame and disappeared. The "Interception" plan was announced in the city, half an hour later the car was detained on Tsvetnoy Boulevard. A 19-year-old student at the Moscow State Institute of International Relations was driving the car. Together with him in the car was a 20-year-old unemployed Muscovite, an 18-year-old resident of the Moscow region of Khimki and a 17-year-old girl who had arrived in Moscow from Saransk. An administrative protocol was drawn up against the offender, after which everyone was released.

      The young man who drove into the Alexander Garden to the Eternal Flame turned out to be the son of the owner of a large brewery from Chechnya, Sulian Taramov,

      What Russian could have thought such a thought? Well, if only his grandfather fought on the side of the Nazis


      An Egyptian arrested in Volgograd relieves the need for the Eternal Flame

      In Volgograd, a young Egyptian, being drunk, on New Year's Eve fulfilled his need right in the Eternal Flame. Now the blasphemer faces five years in prison.
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      In Volgograd, a 29-year-old Egyptian who, while drunk, urinated on the Eternal Flame on the Alley of Heroes, may have to spend five years in prison for this.

      The young man was prosecuted under two articles at once, one of which is very serious: “Abuse of the bodies of the dead and their places of burial.”

      The incident occurred right on New Year's Eve at about half past twelve, the press service of the Volgograd police said. A 29-year-old Egyptian citizen who permanently resides in Volgograd and does not work anywhere, probably having gone through New Year's Eve, could not stand the toilet and began to relieve the need for the Eternal Flame. And he did it right in front of the indignant townspeople, who on New Year's Eve were many in the streets.

      When one of the Volgograd residents made a remark to the guy, he climbed into the fray. Arriving police squad detained the Egyptian. The young man received 10 days of administrative arrest for petty hooliganism.

      However, law enforcement agencies decided to punish the scammer in full - he was charged with two articles of the criminal code: "Abuse of the bodies of the dead and their burial places" and "Deliberate infliction of slight harm to health." “Abuse” provides for a sanction of up to five years in prison.

      The eternal flame was solemnly lit in Volgograd in memory of the heroism and courage of Soviet soldiers. This event took place on February 1, 1963, on the eve of the 20th anniversary of the complete defeat of the Nazis near Stalingrad.


      http://piter.tv/event/egiptyanin_vechnij_ogon_/
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 11 January 2013 12: 30
        +3
        Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

        An Egyptian arrested in Volgograd relieves the need for the Eternal Flame

        I hope that in the cell, his brains will be corrected so that the pig would sleep on the bucket for the whole time.
        1. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 11 January 2013 12: 40
          +1
          I would like our thieves to do the same with his cock for this. Maybe people with old concepts still remained in the zone there.
      2. in reserve
        in reserve 11 January 2013 12: 41
        +2
        Alexey Prikazchikov
        An Egyptian arrested in Volgograd relieves the need for the Eternal Flame


        I have no words alone emotions CHURKA NOT RUSSIAN am
        1. atomic
          atomic 11 January 2013 13: 02
          +6
          In theory, a Russian man who was the first to see this should have broken his jaw. But we pass by, don’t notice, let these bastards pee on the ashes of our fathers, dance lezginka in the squares, carry our women in a jeep in the Aleksanrovsky park, kill with impunity ours (Mirzaev).
          Men from Sagra respect you! Eternal memory to the Russian officer Budanov!
    4. atomic
      atomic 11 January 2013 12: 51
      +2
      We ourselves allow them to behave this way.
    5. Bubo
      Bubo 11 January 2013 13: 27
      +4
      I do not defend this Chechen, only here in Kemerovo one Russian urinated near the eternal flame.
      Why am I, in every nation there are snickering richly-paid goats and frankly eternally bukh
      I propose not to break into generalizations.
      In defense of the Chechens, I can say. it was nice to see and know that the Russian peacekeeping hospital in Lebanon was once guarded by Chechens, fighters of the regular Russian army, and guarded in all conscience.
  5. _N_O_S_
    _N_O_S_ 11 January 2013 11: 51
    +5
    Yes, in Moscow we very clearly see behaviors from Chechnya, Tajikistan and Ayberzhanzhan ............. for some reason I want to shoot everyone ....
  6. Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 11 January 2013 11: 59
    +3
    I don’t believe, she’s bluffing again! If he wants something, then let him prove it realistically, and he’s not satisfied with the talking room!
    A Chechen was fined in Russia, then according to the law of the mountains to punish him! and so boltology!
  7. Atlon
    Atlon 11 January 2013 12: 15
    +2
    And in Islam there is something like anathema in Orthodoxy ??? If there is, it is worth proving, not in word, but in deed, HOW TRUE Chechens relate to the manifestation of rudeness and brutal behavior of their fellow believers. I think it will be no worse than the "law of the mountains" to which the respected "Baron Wrangel" appeals.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 11 January 2013 12: 32
      +2
      Quote: Atlon
      And in Islam there is something like anathema in Orthodoxy



      In Islam, there is no such thing as "excommunication". The deluded themselves will answer before the Almighty, and only he decides who was obedient to Allah (Muslim), and who was not. The type of their fasting, is not limited by the composition of food, as in Christianity, but by the time of its adoption, from sunrise (even before dawn it is necessary to take the last meal, as a rule, no later than 1,5-2 hours before sunrise) and before its sunset refrain from eating, drinking and intimacy.
  8. volcano
    volcano 11 January 2013 12: 17
    +4
    “The main thing is to remind young people of our national code of ethics, of the unshakable requirements of traditions and customs. They oblige a true Chechen to be a model of behavior in any society, in any situation.

    Either I didn’t read about those Chechens, or Ramzan speaks not about those Chechens.

    the People’s Code of Ethics, as it were .... ahem .... well, if among the Chechens themselves ... but they always had a different attitude towards non-Chechens.
    Something I do not remember the facts of their good-neighborliness with the peoples around them, and with the Russians in general I am silent.

    Something you confuse Ramzan. If I said that you need to develop a code of conduct, I would agree. But in history, the Chechens DO NOT RELY ON WHAT.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 11 January 2013 12: 29
      +11
      Quote: volkan
      the People’s Code of Ethics, as it were .... ahem .... well, if among the Chechens themselves ... but they always had a different attitude towards non-Chechens.
      Something I do not remember the facts of their good-neighborliness with the peoples around them, and with the Russians in general I am silent.


      In Chechen society there is no mechanism to counter the “modest charm” of capital. People lack immunity against the power of money. This is a problem for all the peoples of our country, but especially for the small, marginal ones. All moral landmarks are down. Only one thing remains: "The main thing is money, not labor." That is, you don’t need to work, you don’t need to study, you do not have to be moral and comply with laws
      The same "son" of those who come to Moscow supposedly to study. These guys organize races and parties, and then they roll over to the teacher: “Hey, if you don’t give me a good grade, my dad will call you right and you will be kicked out of work.” The more they are allowed, the more they become impudent. They do not want to do anything with their own hands - neither study nor work. What for? After all, if dad gives 10 thousand dollars a month for pocket expenses, there are no problems.

      1. Armata
        Armata 11 January 2013 18: 16
        +2
        Quote: Ascetic
        In Chechen society there is no mechanism to counter the “modest charm” of capital
        Thank you Stanislav. That is why they all hate them. I personally am ready to just dig any Czech or Dag into the ground. Because they do not know how to behave at all and understand only the language of power. We recently nearly got a guy in prison. He modestly works on the machine, but before that, the SB said that he was in the 2 wars. So he otfigachil Czechs in the center of Yekaterinburg. Well then they searched for him, caught him and, as a result, a criminal case. Somehow recaptured from the cops. I am already silent that I was almost sent a case for the fact that I healed one of these creatures. They do what they want in the city. They also threaten their friends and the diaspora.
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 11 January 2013 19: 48
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          I was almost sent a case for drawing one of these creatures

          and what the Criminal Code in Russia canceled?
  9. Ascetic
    Ascetic 11 January 2013 12: 17
    +14
    In March, the Norwegian authorities began to forcibly evict Chechen emigrants from the country. 50 families, including women and children, have already been deported to Russia. Austria did the same a year ago. One of the reasons for the deportation is the aggressive behavior of the settlers towards the indigenous people of the country that gave them shelter. In an informal setting, we have heard the following from the "siloviks" -wait, they say, until the end of the Olympics in Sochi there will be a real tightening of nuts on them.

    Chechen boys — majors — children of high-ranking officials and wealthy people, golden youth in jeeps and Lamborghini are unlimited. They are always in sight and behave boorishly ...
    Because he knows: if anything, dad comes, dad's friend or relative, waved with serious crusts, made calls where necessary, paid if necessary, and any business got away with. Everyone sees: if something happened to the Russian, no one will help him. And all reserves are being pulled up to protect the young native from the Caucasus. Hence the exclusivity and non-jurisdiction of the laws of Russia.
    These are mostly untouchable and see in Moscow. A guy from a poor Chechen family cannot afford Moscow. And those who nevertheless find themselves in the capital are childishly drawn to majors: take a ride on Tverskaya in the back seat of a jeep and feel cool. The majors form their retinue out of them - brigades of “sixes”. They cannot say: "My father is one hundred times richer than yours, so you must serve me." They say: “We are from the Caucasus, we are brothers, the Caucasus will triumph over all, Russia is under us ...” They use these spells to create a halo around the hero. The rustic guys from among the poor tribesmen are being led to this. And right there: “We are Islam, Allahu akbar!”. What is “Allahu akbar” if you drink vodka ?! If you row and molest other people's wives? What kind of Muslim are you in this case and what does religion have to do with it? All this would not have happened under the tough policy of the authorities - in relation not to nations, but to any citizens. It is necessary to start with the daddies who have enriched themselves as a rule in crime and have completely lost their sense of reality from easy money and permissiveness, and not only Chechens who have lost their shores of their majors and have enough of their own. They have one weapon, money and blackmail, and nothing more for the soul, about what kind of mountain traditions is this ... crap.
    Now Russians are fundamentally different from the Russians of 1991. In the 91st year in Art. Shelkovskaya one armed Chechen killed more than a hundred Russians - he went from house to house, calmly recharged, shot. And no one dared to resist. And only 15 years later in Kondopoga, Tver and Stavropol Chechens met stiff resistance ..
    So let's until it's not too late
    “Work closely with the media, with the clergy, work with youth through social networks. Also, if necessary, involve our deputies in the State Duma, the republican parliament, and community leaders in the regions of the country. In addition, you need to create social videos about truly national rules of conduct. You should travel to the regions of Russia more often to establish cultural ties. Do not disregard the diaspora in European countries. Our main goal is to educate our youth cultural, purposeful, educated and friendly. We should be proud of her, and not be ashamed. ”

    And do not be famously, while it is quiet ..
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 11 January 2013 12: 39
      +6
      Quote: Ascetic
      So let's not too late


      Already

      Mass beatings of Chechens took place in Nalchik


      As it became known, in recent days there have been several incidents in Nalchik, during which unknown Chechen students studying at Kabardino-Balkarian State University, the Agricultural Academy, the Economics and Law Lyceum and the College of Information Technology and Economics were beaten up by unknown persons.

      According to representatives of the Chechen community in Nalchik, the first events of this kind took place on September 15-16, but they took on the largest scale on September 17. On this day, two emergencies occurred almost simultaneously. Several Chechen students were beaten outside the Vostok cinema in downtown Nalchik. A white Zhiguli car, model six, drove up to the group of students sitting on a bench, from which four people got out. Having called in the direction of one Chechen, Ruslan Soltukaev, they asked him if he was a local, and having received the answer: "No, I am from Grozny," they began to beat him. Soon about ten more people joined the four attackers. Three Chechen students lost consciousness from the beatings.

      At about the same time, more than a hundred people broke into the hostel of the Economic and Legal Lyceum and beat up the Chechen students living there. As a student of the local medical institute Ilyas Salamov told a REGNUM correspondent, he, unaware of the incident, came to the hostel to visit his brother, and witnessed how literally everything in the building was shaking.

      The total number of victims, including those in intensive care, is currently being specified. In total, up to 10 thousand people from Chechnya now live in Kabardino-Balkaria.
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 11 January 2013 14: 29
        +7
        I'll tell you about the Kazakh experience of communicating with the Chechens. In principle, the nation is very sane, reasonable and sane. It's always nice to communicate with a Chechen of any age. But sometimes one of their youth begins to pretend to be a "Rambo", but this is simply cured by knocking on the head. There have been several times in Kazakhstan when the Chechen youth began to get out. In all cases, without exception, Kazakhs rammed Vainakhs (Novy Uzen in the 80s, Tselinograd region in the 70s, Almaty region in the 2000s). Then their own elders apologize for the misbehavior of the youths.
        In Russia, Kazakhs, too, no, no, come into conflict with the highlanders (a fight in Moscow at the Gubkinsky Institute of Oil, regular high-profile fights in the Astrakhan region). It usually starts the same way. Kazakh is sober by nature’s soberness and calmly lets someone’s bravado and show off his ears, and Chechens perceive Kazakh equanimity as a sign of weakness, after which they begin to mourn in relation to the Kazakh person. After that, the result in all cases is the same - a Chechen in the hospital, and the steppe is dragged through the courts.
        Returning to Kazakhstan, Chechens can behave culturally when they know that the titular nation will not allow themselves to sit on their necks. And at the same time, it itself will not humiliate the non-titular. Therefore, the numerous Chechen diaspora in the KZ does not cause any special complaints. Quite friendly cultural people. You just need to be able to deal with them. And the Russians in Russia do not give a rebuff, but they manage to insult the Chechen in another place - on the Internet. We saw the impudent guy - make a comment, do not know how to talk - give on the neck. And in the internet (or in the circle of only Russian friends) to call them chocks and donkey ___ fila - the very last thing. Respect Chechens, correct their mistakes. Who is the titular nation in Russia? Kazakhs in their own country do not vomit themselves and do not give others. We are the titular ethnic group. We have as many rights as non-title ones, and more responsibilities. And if we do not want to have more responsibilities than the Slavs, Koreans, Caucasians, Germans, Uzbeks living in KZ, then we have no right to call ourselves the titular nation. We are responsible for peace and harmony in the country, not foreigners.
        1. воронов
          воронов 14 January 2013 19: 27
          -1
          Only now, in the seventies and eighties, the Chechens in Kazakhstan were replaced not by the "valiant Kazakh steppe dwellers", but by the same Russians
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny April 23 2013 20: 51
            +1
            examples in the studio. this is when in our KZ, the Russians and the Chechens got into fights ???
    2. volcano
      volcano 11 January 2013 14: 13
      +1
      Ascetic,
      Colleague, I was still talking about something else.
      it would be wrong to assume that Chechens are like that because there is no work ... or impunity corrupts, etc. etc.
      THEY ARE HISTORICALLY SUCH ... aggressive, arrogant, recognizing only strength and always talking only from a position of strength.
      Or worshiping only power. They do not like cowards and despise them.
      They do not like mercy and forgiveness, and they also do not understand tolerance, taking it all again for weakness (in this case, ours).
      They have always been so, and they will remain so.
      If someone believes that having received a job and having removed dads from power, the young Chechens will be white and fluffy, then he is very mistaken.
      The history of the Chechens is a history of eternal bloodshed. They always fought with everyone, even among themselves, with their teips.
      That is why they could not even build a hint of a state ... the neighboring village is already an enemy village.
      No matter how you repaint the shark ... it will never become a dolphin.
      No matter how we please Kadyrov and flood Chechnya with money (while in central Russia half of the villages are not just without gas, without WATER) they will rise again. They cannot do otherwise.
      The Caucasus has always fought. Long before us, he already fought, with us (and with us) he fought and will always fight.
      This cannot be changed. Never. To nobody.
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 11 January 2013 14: 44
        0
        Volkan, well, who respects a coward? Russians or what? And who in the internet is the most aggressive of all in the Russian-Chechen srachs - Russians or Chechens? Collect a bunch of unknown 5 Russians and one Chechen in a closed room, what will happen to the Chechen? He gets sealed below the baseboard, even if he's a "nice guy." No need to demonize Nokhchi. They have disadvantages, but they are not much different from the "Russian" or "Kazakh" disadvantages. Is that the Russians have one more jamb - "my hut is on the edge" in relation to a relative. The mentality of the steppe and highlanders is different here.
        1. volcano
          volcano 11 January 2013 15: 10
          +1
          Marek rozny,
          Not this way.
          In general, this is an extremely deep question, but I'm sorry to look at the history of the issue.
          Of course, when it comes to some kind of people, you can always find someone who is Good, smart, decent, etc. And then this poke the opponent.
          But every nation has ..... let's just say ..... a psychophysical portrait that has been drawn for millennia. Changing it in a short period of time is impossible. At least I don't believe that. And in principle, according to the history of the people, the history of events taking place with them, one can quite accurately determine who is who. By the nature of relations with the outside world, we also determine the main FEATURES of the TYPICAL REPRESENTATIVE of this or that people. people are also strongly characterized by its culture and customs.
          You can talk about this for a long time and not only in the context of the Chechens.
          So, what you said about the hut on the edge is just a temporary "clouding of mind" of the Russian person. This is not typical of us. On the contrary, the Russians have always helped each other, for which there are millions of confirmations. It is not for nothing that we have a saying "We helped the whole world."
          But the Chechens (and others like them) have always been the way we see them now.
          It is an honor to cut off the head of the enemy. You are a hero if you could destroy a neighboring village the whole story (their story) is saturated with war and blood. They did not like work for millennia, why did you get the idea that they would love it now? This is their way of life, their psychological portrait as a people. Yes, they stand behind their own people, but their misfortune is only members of the teip, all the neighboring teip are not their own.
          A nation that for thousands of years of its existence could not even create a small state, you know ..... an indicator ... They do not know how and do not want to live together. I want to remind you that the only association (rather short-lived) took place with them under Shamil, and even that was mainly of a formal nature.
          if you take the same Georgians or Armenians, you will see that the Caucasus can be different. These peoples were able to build their own states, create their own culture, their own history.
          And our "Caucasians" do not. And believe me it says a lot.
          1. volcano
            volcano 11 January 2013 15: 23
            0
            Marek Rozny

            I’ll even give you an example.

            Native American scalp a white settler who is he?
            In the eyes of Belykh he is a beast, BUT in the eyes of other Indians he is a HERO.
            That's all. We have a different coordinate system in terms of values.
            And the fact that for thousands of years it was valued and absorbed by the Chechens with mother’s milk is, to put it mildly, not accepted by the Russians.
            Of course, now there is a process of "civilization", but in my opinion, everyone can see that it is proceeding with very great difficulty both in Chechnya and in Dagestan and in the rest of the Caucasian regions too. Well, somehow they do not want to, because, apparently, what they are trying to lead them to enters into a cruel contradiction with the deep, let's say, the genetic memory of the people.
          2. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 11 January 2013 16: 57
            +2
            1) I don’t care if the Chechens or Mordovians could create their own state or not. There is a Horde Union, and we must create the conditions for them to live there normally.
            2) Chechens in the eyes of Russians are cannibals, because they themselves climbed with them in the war. Not nokhchi attacked Ryazan, and the tsarist army constantly crowded the mountaineers, and then the Bolsheviks also conducted an idiotic policy towards the peoples of the Caucasus and some other peoples. Chechens, who only recently became Muslims, still had strong religious feelings, which the Communists decided to eliminate in one fell swoop. These are not Armenians and Azeri Russians or Tatars, who by the beginning of the 20th century belonged to religion already somehow without much internal interest. But the Bolsheviks did everything clumsily, and only for this reason alone did the Chechens bullish until the 40s.
            It is necessary to take into account all the nuances of each ethnic group, and not cut from the shoulder. Destroy all the mosques for the Kazakhs, they will not be particularly indignant. But the back of him is simply scornful with words about his even distant ancestors of the 13th century, then he will break with his teeth instantly. But the Russian is unlikely to associate himself with Krivich or Drevlyanin. And the Russians practically will not react to the phrase on the street “all Drevlyans are stupid, and the glades are drunks”, the Russians practically will not react, but say in public “all the Kipchaks are bastards, and the Naimans are idiots” and Kazakhs will beat you on the spot. Or, for example, Russification in Belarus will be generally calm, but an Uzbek or Azeri will not accept it. Everyone has their own strings. The tsarist government, the Bolsheviks and Yeltsin were advancing on the same rake in relation to the Chechen people. But the Turks, who constantly held power in the Caucasus from the time of the Huns to the Ottoman Empire, had no problems with the Nokhchi. Generally. Because they never touched their religious beliefs. Because they did not humiliate them. In turn, the Chechens willingly adopted elements of the Turkic culture. Half of Chechnya is in Turkic toponyms, and they have more Turkic personal names than their own or Arab-Muslims. They were very complimentary to the Turkic conquerors. What's the matter? Russia just needs to conduct a targeted policy in relation to each ethnic group. And not the way it appears even here on the website: "Kyrgyz, Tajiks - what's the difference, they are all the same" (although the difference between them is like between a Dane and a Spaniard).
            What does a Russian person know about Chechen culture in general? Answer honestly without looking at Google. Nothing. Besides the fact that they have always been at war with them, an ordinary Russian cannot say anything. But they will always add that they fuck goats and drink human blood. Where is the state policy in this matter? For Russians, Chechens are terra incognita. It sounds strange, but it is. What do you know about their history besides the wars with the Russians? Even the fact that Shamil is a non-Chechen and that Islam appeared among the Nokhchi actually only a couple of centuries ago during the war with Russia amazes Russians, who are used to thinking differently.
            It is not necessary to be a professor of Chechen culture and history, but at least the familiarity of the Russian people with them has already helped the Russians to find ways of cooperation and interaction with this small, hospitable people.
            My father, being a Russian riot police major, fought with the Chechens in the 90s. But he never said a single bad word about them. He treated them with respect. And he knew the culture of the Chechens since childhood, because next to his Kazakh aul there were three Chechen villages in the Tselinograd region.
            1. Petergut
              Petergut 14 January 2013 18: 10
              +2
              ... Or, for example, Russification in Belarus will take place generally calmly ...

              And here you, buddy Marek Rozny, really missed. )))
              But this is because you are not familiar with our realities. What can be Russification within a mentally united nation. And this is not a figure of speech, believe me. There are two official languages ​​in Belarus, Belarusian and Russian. But they all speak exclusively Russian, moreover in good Russian. Almost all of the press and television, with rare exceptions, appear in Russian. We have a lot of Russians, namely Russian citizens of Belarus. There are still Ukrainians and Poles, but fewer. And all these peoples coexist remarkably, and the national question is virtually absent. By the way, if anyone does not know, our citizens of Russia have the same rights as the citizens of Belararusi. A citizen of the Russian Federation can simply come with his passport and get a job, of course, if he is the right specialist. I know a family of people from the Caucasus, citizens of the Russian Federation who live and work great. And it absolutely does not surprise anyone.

              We also had our own problems with this while the liberals Shushkevich and Kebich, and the first years of A.G. Lukashenko, drove it. I remember ethnic criminal groups, I remember loafers from the Caucasus who tried to squeeze the population. It was. And then the authorities put things in order and they all moved out. Please note that not only newcomers arrived, but also our homegrown bandits. And who did not move out thundered into the jail. By the way, all this tripe came to Russia .... Moreover, even street crime has almost disappeared, and I still remember the time of the yard punks and gopot when in the evening people were afraid to walk the streets. People just realized that it’s better to work calmly and study, to live in peace and harmony. The state really protects the population.
              Most of the problems are nationally motivated, to say nothing, and almost all other problems are caused by the quality of power in Russia. And not even because the power in Russia is weak, it is simply a stranger. I will not discuss the personality of Putin, he is the elected president, but the gang that surrounds him serves the interests of the comprador bourgeoisie and foreign capital. The same thing happens at the level of regions and cities. I know this because there are friends from Russia.
              Personally, I am deeply surprised how the thirst for money has replaced people with a sense of duty, responsibility and love for Fatherland. This is very sad.
              And yet, friends, have less faith in propaganda in the media. What you see from the screens and what really is in Belarus are very different things.

              I really want to believe that Russia will find those internal reserves that will help it break out of the quagmire into which it was plunged by foreign enemies and its own traitors.
              All Peace and Good.
            2. воронов
              воронов 14 January 2013 19: 48
              0
              There is no need to militarize the Kazakhs so much, until the October Revolution (or, as it is now fashionable, a coup), there was no such thing as a Kazakh, these were disunited Kyrgyz-Kaisak tribes, divided into zhuzes and clans, in the 18th century they were genocided by the Dzungars and only them voluntary accession to Russia saved them from complete destruction and they could not oppose the Dzungars, it was about their "militancy." Now, as for your dad, well, by and large, the OMON in Chechnya did not fight, they usually stood on the blocks and carried a patrol service in the liberated regions and the fact that your dad, after his business trips to Chechnya, continued to treat the Czechs with respect, this and speaks of how he "fought" there.
              1. Marek Rozny
                Marek Rozny April 23 2013 21: 15
                0
                1) Our self-name "Cossack" from the middle of the 15th century. The word "kazakh" was invented in the Stalin years to distinguish us from the Russian Cossacks. In exactly the same way, the tsarist government called us "Kyrgyz-Kaisaks", "Kyrgyz", so as not to be confused with their tsarist Cossacks. You will also say that there are no Germans, because there is no such people with such a SELF-NAME.
                2) Kazakhs still preserve the tribal system. Only this is not a separating factor, but, on the contrary, forcing a Kazakh to consider another Kazakh a relative. The credo of the Kazakhs is "a Kazakh does not fight with a Kazakh." We have never had not only a civil war, but even intergeneric wars. Compare with the history of your people.
                3) We destroyed the Dzungars ourselves. Without Russian help. On the one hand, the Kazakhs slaughtered them without exception, on the other, the Manchus. do not attribute to the Russians what they did not do. At the same time, Russia sold firearms and guns to the Dzungars, which was openly written even in the TSB. The remains of the Dzungars were carved out by the Kazakhs during their "dusty march" (this is when Russian citizens-Dzungars crossed the Kazakh steppe).
                4) The father has three awards for the Caucasian "business trips". One of which was presented personally by the Minister of Internal Affairs of Russia when he came to Astana. In general, at your leisure, ask how many of the riot policemen are heroes of Russia and awarded various orders for Chechnya. By the way, my father's younger brother also has the Order of Courage (among other awards). And he is also an honorary resident of the Orenburg region. And three or five more gunshot wounds (received at different times) and several knife wounds. So I will ask for less fucking in relation to the "non-combatant patrols".
                5) How do you understand what it means to respect someone? You only managed to crap Kazakhs, riot police and my father in messages to me.
        2. воронов
          воронов 14 January 2013 19: 30
          0
          Only here it is not necessary to confuse the highlanders with the steppes, there are completely different mentalities
          1. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny April 23 2013 21: 20
            0
            I am Kazakh. there are a lot of Turks and highlanders around me (including Chechens and Ingush) and Slavs. There is something to compare. And you, as I understand it, neither the Kazakhs really know, nor the Vainakhs.
            And regarding the mentality in the TOM message, I had in mind the fact that the steppes and highlanders always hold on to their own. Unlike the Slavs. I think you yourself know that.
  10. Papakiko
    Papakiko 11 January 2013 12: 18
    +6
    The main thing is to remind young people of our People’s Code of Ethics, about the unshakable requirements of traditions and customs. They oblige a true Chechen to be a model of behavior in any society, in any situation. And it’s important to someone who for some reason began to forget about these norms, remind them in a timely manner
    Thieves, killers from the mountains!
    What are such codes-norms-traditions of behavior?
    We are TOLERANT with them, and in Europe:
    If you live in our country, then respect and live according to our laws. And our compatriots, whether they like it or not, are forced to agree with this, ”concluded R. Kadyrov.
    What prevents our authorities from doing the same?
    Money!!!!!!!!
  11. predator.3
    predator.3 11 January 2013 12: 23
    +6
    “I am outraged by the behavior of some natives of the Chechen Republic who behave defiantly, become participants in various showdowns, and dance in public places where this is not accepted. They must strictly adhere to generally accepted rules of conduct. If young people cannot or do not want to abide by them, let them return home", Said the head of the republic.

    Golden words, Ramzan! That's it, let them return home! And LET at home they dance lezginka until you drop and round the clock! and bullet each other, a friend from injuries! good :
  12. fenix57
    fenix57 11 January 2013 12: 33
    0
    Atlon,
    There are also serious punishments. Take a walk: www.worldislamlaw.ru hi
  13. fenix57
    fenix57 11 January 2013 12: 50
    0
    Vadivak,
    Therefore, the patience of the people was exhausted, and therefore the father of all Chechens began to fuss. "Experiencing".
  14. 8 company
    8 company 11 January 2013 12: 53
    +3
    Cattle - it has no nationality. A veteran of the Chechen wars recounted a case: in Chechnya, they ("vovans") were regularly on duty at the checkpoint, and a Chechen sold in a tent nearby. One of ours kept bullying the Chechen, trying to humiliate and insult him. In the end, the Chechen said in front of everyone: "Let's sort things out one-on-one, like men." Ours agreed and all of ours were also not against it. We went to a secluded place, got together in hand-to-hand combat. We fought for a long time, but in the end our Chechen won. Everything, the question was settled, ours calmed down, there were no complaints about the Chechen either.
  15. vladds
    vladds 11 January 2013 13: 06
    +1
    And I say again! until we get out of the state of the international mixer, there will be no peace!
    It starts from the 90s, with films like, "brother, boomer," etc. on this young people were brought up!
    And there is only one way out! the Caucasus needs to be populated back to its roots! and let them be brought up at home!
    How re-educated and allowed to travel outside their mountains!
    Except for Caucasian youth, everyone else behaves normally!
    angry or not?
  16. mesnik
    mesnik 11 January 2013 13: 07
    +3
    In general, our main misfortune is that we ourselves allow it all. Cattle do not have a nationality. If the highlanders go too far, it’s only because we allow it, we give up weakness. Our Russian youth is growing slobbery, that’s the trouble, there are a lot of effeminate ones. In order for everything to be normal, it is necessary in any case to defend our values, then they will respect us, well, or at least they are afraid. I saw someone who clearly hurts the weak, intervene, fight back, saw someone urinating in the eternal flame? Sun Bosko why should we do it in mosques? Why is nobody in the same Chechnya urinating on their monuments? They know because most likely they won’t even have time to wait for ordinary people to cut them off ... This is a problem in ourselves.
  17. Fox
    Fox 11 January 2013 13: 09
    +9
    I remember a case, 2005, the traffic cops drove a VAZ2106 around Samara for a long time ... they caught up, got the driver ... a 15-year-old Chech, a nephew of a member of the Chechen government ... a car inspection ... a pair of AKM, grenades, zinc cartridges, a couple of "flies" , and so, on trifles ... and my aunt's car, I took a ride-otmazatsya. the next day, everyone who detained, drew up the protocols, received a lulya, after a direct call from Moscow. uncle otmazalis skillfully: "it all threw up the cops!" .. .FISH STEPS FROM THE HEAD,
  18. kukuruzo
    kukuruzo 11 January 2013 13: 23
    +3
    yes ... Stalin was right about the Chechens, this people cannot be changed ... the problem of the Russian people is that it is an obedient, meek nation ... which follows the leader, and we have been leaders for many years. people ... and it will be until then. until he again ascends to the Russian throne, a patriot and a strong hand
  19. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik 11 January 2013 13: 32
    +4
    I also consider him honest, modest, decent ... laughing
    1. MG42
      MG42 11 January 2013 15: 21
      +3
      Yeah = modest >>>>> could go to the Kremlin in a tracksuit fellow
  20. fenix57
    fenix57 11 January 2013 13: 48
    +2
    "The diplomat and playwright A. S. Griboyedov considered General A. P. Ermolov to be an almost unlimited ruler of the Caucasus:" He has been given the right to declare war and conclude peace; it will suddenly come to mind that our borders are not quite defined on the part of Persia, and will go to expand them to the Araks! "..." - that's who is needed there "... The main law in the Caucasus was strength "- admitted the commander of the Caucasian corps, General Yermolov, who, by the way, has priority in creating" dead zones "with the total destruction of both the highlanders themselves and their homes, gardens, fields, stocks of bread and fodder ... " chechenasso.ru
  21. fenix57
    fenix57 11 January 2013 14: 11
    +2
    "... with the dismissal of Alexander Petrovich Ermolov from the Caucasus, in 1862, the conquest of the Caucasus went the wrong way ..." - now he probably cannot find his place in the next world ...
  22. werr17
    werr17 11 January 2013 14: 51
    0
    One face, one behavior, one type of thinking.
  23. werr17
    werr17 11 January 2013 14: 52
    +5
    One face, one behavior, one type of thinking.
  24. suharev-52
    suharev-52 11 January 2013 17: 25
    0
    I fully support Kadyrov. These words must be attributed to the youth of all nationalities of Russia. There is enough shit in all nations. Sincerely.
    1. Armata
      Armata 11 January 2013 18: 29
      +1
      Quote: suharev-52
      I fully support Kadyrov
      Maybe this is when he killed our guys under the guise of independence of the Chekhov Republic?
      Quote: suharev-52
      These words must be attributed to the youth of all nationalities of Russia. There is enough shit in all nations
      Only with other nations is this not so indicative of a nationalist? Maybe it's time to put them in? I don’t know who you are by nationality and calm for your sons (the younger 3 has a hand-to-hand combat + engaged in historical fencing with swords), but I'm not sure about the rest. And my hatred is not without basics. I have not yet seen a Czech or a Dag by honest workers, but they believe that the world belongs to them.
      1. bairat
        bairat 11 January 2013 22: 06
        +1
        Quote: Mechanic
        I have not yet seen a Czech or a dag by honest workers,

        I saw Chechens doing repairs in my apartment. Simple guys, I would even say gullible. In the end, they hired a local helper, they didn’t meet the deadlines, so this Zuckerman stole a camera and a collection of coins from my house and was like that.
        1. kukuruzo
          kukuruzo 12 January 2013 01: 32
          +1
          I know one guy ... a very good guy and likes to communicate with Russians and respects ... he himself did not think that there are any
      2. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 12 January 2013 11: 49
        +1
        Mechanic, the same Dagi, Ingush and Chechens live in our KZ. They work as usual. No complaints to them at all. As well as to Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Uzbeks, Russians and other foreigners.
        (so ... bragged)
  25. Prisoner
    Prisoner 12 January 2013 02: 57
    +2
    1. I think that young people from wealthy families behave the same rudely regardless of nationality (in most cases) Or do you want to say that Russian majors, Tatar and so on. differ in their behavior? The fact that the media is full of headlines about Caucasians does not mean that only Caucasians behave this way. It only says that someone needs to present everything in this light. And when they say that the Caucasians are letting the cops out and the Russians are being imprisoned for the same thing, think about whether the children of some kind of Russian brewery owner will be responsible in all severity? The conclusion is obvious - in our country, only those who do not have the opportunity to negotiate with corrupt officials, police and other employees, regardless of nationality, are responsible for their actions.
    2. I am sure that for most Russians all Caucasians and Caucasians are on the same face. Is it possible that many like that at a vantage point can distinguish for example a Chechen from an Abkhazian for example? Well, if there is no T-shirt with the inscription Chechnya on it. But when something happens somewhere, associations arise immediately with Chechens or Dagestanis.
    3. So I noticed that many Russians make such statements "yes, they are all dumb, but I have an acquaintance, neighbor, friend, normal cultural colleague and the rest are all bad." Don't you think that your friend, neighbor, colleague is not the only one like that? if you are unlucky enough to meet others of the same kind, this does not mean that they do not exist, and your friend, if he was brought up like that, probably has brothers or other relatives who have the same upbringing and views. By automatically putting a stigma on everyone, you thereby repel, in my opinion, those who treat you very well.
  26. MG42
    MG42 12 January 2013 03: 13
    +3
    But we should not disregard our youth, who are outside the republic. It is unacceptable for young people to impose their rules of behavior in the regions in which they live, and also behave extremely defiantly in public places. We must not forget that they are citizens of Russia and must comply with the laws of the country

    Correctly said = but there are many videos where characters in T-shirts with the words "Chechnya" are doing lawlessness "at a party", they are happy to film it and post it on the net.
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 12 January 2013 11: 51
      -3
      Have you seen photos of disgusting characters in T-shirts with the words "I am Russian" on the Internet?
  27. MG42
    MG42 12 January 2013 12: 10
    +3
    No, not seen. But did you see such an unlimited video? cafe "Sliver" Kemerovo 2012? This is a statement of fact and not incitement.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9w3GS8PaMk
    1. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 12 January 2013 23: 31
      +1
      MG42, don't pretend that only non-Russian citizens are buragoz in Russia. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of thugs are Slavs. And don't make your eyes round. Or Russians can be unlimited, and foreigners - no, no? I can throw you a video of idiots from the same youtube from the idiot "parampampam" to Evsyukov.
  28. vik71
    vik71 21 March 2013 13: 18
    0
    “I am outraged by the behavior of some natives of the Czech Republic, who behave provocatively, become participants in various fights, arrange dances in public places where it is not accepted. They must strictly adhere to generally accepted rules of conduct. If young people are unable or unwilling to observe them, let them return home, ”said the head of the republic.
    He said - just like in a stadium about a judge.