New Japanese "song" about the South Kurils

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On the eve, a number of Russian media published the words of the ex-prime minister of the Japanese government, Yoshiro Mori, saying that Japan is going to reconsider its territorial claims against Russia regarding the South Kuriles (in the Japanese manner - the Northern Territories). Mori allowed himself to say that Tokyo could make “unprecedented” concessions with respect to Moscow, which are recognition of Russian jurisdiction over the most populated of the southern islands, Iturup, and Japan plans to take Shikotan, Kunashir and Habomai. With such proposals, the special representative of the current prime minister was supposedly going to go to the Russian capital to convince President Putin of the Japanese opinions.

The words about “unprecedented” concessions from the Land of the Rising Sun with respect to Russia clearly amused the Russian public, if only because the word “concessions” here may not be appropriate at all. Yielding what you do not have is, of course, strong! Purely Japanese invention. Like, we give you, so be it, we give Iturup, and you "return" all the other territorial objects of the South Kuriles to us ...

However, if it was to some extent amused by the Russians, then in Japan such information caused quite different moods. The secretary of the Japanese cabinet, Yoshihido Suga, was forced to take over the case, representing the official position of the new (old) Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who returned to a leading position later on 5 years (and they also say that there are personnel problems in Russia at the highest levels of power). So this Mr. Suga said that former Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori was misunderstood. It turns out that he (Mori) didn’t even intend to somehow divide the Southern Kuriles, but simply expressed his version as one of the possible proposals and assumptions. But the position of the Japanese government on the issue of the islands of the South Kuril ridge remains unchanged: that is, “give us all the 4 objects (Habomai, Kunashir, Iturup and Shikotan). At the same time, the Japanese government had already reminded the hundred millionth time of the treatise of the sample 1855 of the year, according to which the four islands are recognized as Japanese. It seems like they confess ... And again, for one hundred millionth time, representatives of the Japanese cabinet stubbornly forget that 1855 did not have a year yesterday, or even last week, and that Japan suffered a defeat in 1945 in World War II, signing an act of surrender with all consequent territorial consequences for Tokyo. And among these territorial consequences is the fact that the Southern Kuriles are now Russian lands without any reservations and references to treatises, pacts and petitions of memorable times.

Well, does one have to be surprised at the new statements from the Japanese government that someone has to give back to Japan again, give back, donate, give up? Of course, it is not necessary, because Japan is a specific state. So specific that it is one of the few countries in the world that uses doubtful chants as national anthems. For Japan, this is the song “Kimi gyo”, under which the troops of the militarist state seized foreign territories during the Second World War. After this musical work was approved as the official anthem of the country in 1999, many educational workers abandoned the performance of the hymn in schools, after which they were even forced to quit their jobs, giving them “more loyal” and “less memorable” .

But here it is also a strange thing: the anthem of the Second World War in Japan is restored and thus makes you remember the “greatness of the Japanese empire” and its triumphant marches across East Asia in the first half of 40, but about the defeat in this war and the loss of Kuril Islands, Tokyo stubbornly forgets. It seems that there can not do without reminders ...

However, Japan decided, apparently, to speak from a very tough position. Not for this reason, for the first time in more than 10 years, the Land of the Rising Sun decided to increase its military budget, by no less than a billion, by 1,15. Recall that today Japan’s military financial expenditures amount to about 53 billion dollars. And despite the fact that there is a well-known article of the Japanese constitution with the number 9 from 1947 of the year, in which it is written in black and white that Japan cannot have its own army, but can only have “self-defense forces”. Forgive me, not frail self-defense at the cost of more than $ 54 billion. If this is the financing of self-defense forces, then what kind of funding will there be, if Japan suddenly reconsiders its constitution and decides to rebuild the army? ..

By the way, the words about the necessity of abolishing the 9 article were also made by Shinzo Abe when he was once again torn to the premiership. In addition, Abe stubbornly argued that he was able to solve existing territorial issues (obviously, with China and Russia). Based on such pre-election rhetoric of Mr. Abe, it can be assumed that he was put on the old post, proceeding from the aggravated situation in terms of the disputed territories (mainly regarding Senkaku). And since Abe hinted so transparently that he was ready to speak from a position of strength, the Japanese parliamentarians were inspired by these words and gave Shinzo a second chance.

In general, once again in Japan, the rhetoric of the right sense, to which we recently had time to get used, sounds. Now it is worthwhile to wish the Russian government to develop a strong immunity to the Japanese territorial claims and, if possible, to find an alternative reason for retaliatory claims against Tokyo itself. And you can even organize a lot of such claims. For example, the payment of multi-billion dollar reparations with the wording “for the misuse of the resources of Sakhalin Island from 1905 to 1945 and the occupation of the northern part of Sakhalin from 1925 to 1945 years”. So let them comb ...
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  1. +105
    11 January 2013 08: 11
    In the early 90s, EBN was ready to give them two islands, but Japan didn’t like this option. Now they won’t get one either, and as regards the forcible solution of the problem, as a result of this turn of events, Honshu is also part of Russia hi
    1. +45
      11 January 2013 08: 17
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      then, as a result of this turn of events, Honshu will also be part of Russia

      Hokaido will not take?
      1. +24
        11 January 2013 08: 28
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Hokaido will not take?

        There are no fish there, and the winds are constant.
        1. +24
          11 January 2013 10: 19
          Hokaido will not take?
          There are no fish there, and the winds are constant.

          The constant winds? et even good, we’ll put windmills on free wink
          1. Sergh
            +18
            11 January 2013 11: 29
            Quote: cth; fyn
            There are no fish there, and the winds are constant

            Hello Alexander!
            Why the fuck do we need this Japan ??? We look.



            Better let's go, take Australia, there is a kangaroo ...
            1. vyatom
              +3
              11 January 2013 12: 51
              Why do we need a kangaroo. And in Japan, technology and plants can be picked up.
              1. Lucky
                +4
                11 January 2013 19: 37
                That technology would not hurt us now!
              2. Ivanushra
                +9
                11 January 2013 22: 40
                And you need to have your own technology, not take someone else's. And then our Russia is much larger and richer, so why are we looking at someone else's. We have a saying: "Don't open your mouth to someone else's loaf." And for some reason it turns out, as in a cartoon: "We don't have enough mind"
              3. +3
                12 January 2013 10: 53
                They dont have. The Japanese have no technology. You take a closer look ... There are factories that have brilliantly established statistical quality control methods invented ... by the Americans. And that's all. What is there? Robots? And what can they do, despite the fact that the Japanese have been working on them for almost forty years? Shift on the spot and say "nya". Like ten years ago, like thirty years ago ... Try to find some truly Japanese technology. I promise you a lot of fun minutes ...
              4. clinic1
                +9
                12 January 2013 15: 13
                They have practically all the technologies from the magazines "Yunny Technik" and "Tekhnika Molodezhi" ... USSR!
                1. +2
                  16 January 2013 23: 28
                  klinok1 "They have practically all the technologies from the magazines" Yunny Technik "and" Technics of Youth "... USSR!"
                  -------------------------------------------------- ----------------
                  One hundred percent true! They bought all our scientific and technical journals and looked for what our inventors were sharing absolutely FREE! Like "experienced advice". This has happened naturally since Soviet times! So much for all their technologies! And in the magazines there really was a lot of interesting things - our people are TALENTED! Why these proposals often remained at our home without "application" is a somewhat different topic, but there are answers here too!
            2. +3
              11 January 2013 23: 36
              What, again, is this Japan peeping? Zadolbal already as much as possible. After each of their cries, it is necessary to lay new 2 cities and a military base in the Kuril Islands.
          2. beech
            +2
            11 January 2013 15: 48
            it shakes all the time
            1. +4
              11 January 2013 22: 28
              This is Japan descending into the ocean, psychics said. Soon they themselves will run to us, with their technology, when they begin to sink.
          3. +1
            11 January 2013 18: 34
            cth; fyn, so yapam and sell !! wassat laughing
        2. 0
          11 January 2013 14: 48
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          There are no fish there, and the winds are constant.

          Is there no fish in the north of Hokaido?
          C'mon.
          Apparently fish are not visible on the northern shores of Japan, but in someone else's waters, as in someone else's hands, it is always sweeter ...

          Yes
          Quote: V. Salama
          I have already forgotten ... Damansky then the Chinese also fused EBN?

          What a joke?
          Damansky is the end of the 60s.
          And here EBN?
          1. Quiet
            +4
            12 January 2013 12: 16
            These bastards in violation of international agreements
            engaged, under the guise of research, the extermination of whales and dolphins. They eat the catch .... Yes, even yapping about their rights ... fool
          2. -1
            12 January 2013 15: 25
            Quote: Tartary
            What a joke?
            I apologize for ignorance and negligence. I had in mind the territories transferred already under Putin and, thus, hint to the opponent that excessive pathos and trust in the authorities in such matters are inappropriate.
      2. +21
        11 January 2013 08: 48
        The fact that Japan did not give up claims was clear for a long time ... Especially now, when claims against Japan were brought by China and Korea ... The only victory could be victory over Russia ...
        Only now the Japanese have missed time ... Under EBN, the issue would have been resolved quickly and for a penny ... But now, alas, for the narrow-eyed, the steam locomotive has left .... Russia under Putin is not just a country, Russia is one of the leading countries.
        And the prime minister’s proposals ... Well, based on the political situation in Japan, without proposals and, like, attempts to solve the problem of the northern territories, it is impossible to win the elections there in principle ...
        1. -13
          11 January 2013 12: 10
          Quote: domokl
          Under EBN, the issue would be resolved quickly and for a penny ... And now, alas, for the narrow-eyed, the engine left ..
          I have already forgotten ... Damansky then the Chinese also fused EBN?
          1. +2
            11 January 2013 14: 45
            Quote: V. Salama
            Daman then the Chinese also fused EBN?

            And the Dalniy Peninsula in 55 melted Khrushchev.
          2. mamba
            +6
            11 January 2013 16: 16
            Quote: V. Salama
            Daman then the Chinese also fused EBN?

            After the border conflict, as a result of the beginning of the Sino-Soviet negotiations in the autumn of 1969, an agreement was reached on the cessation of hostile actions and that the troops of the parties would remain in their positions, which at that time meant the actual transfer of the island to China. On May 19, 1991, the parties agreed that the island would finally come under the jurisdiction of the PRC. Therefore, not EBN, but the HMS is responsible for it.
            1. 0
              12 January 2013 15: 03
              Quote: mamba
              On May 19, 1991, the parties agreed that the island would finally come under the jurisdiction of the PRC. Therefore, not EBN, but the HMS is responsible for it.
              Thank you, enlightened, put a plus +
        2. +4
          11 January 2013 12: 52
          Quote: domokl
          .. The only victory could be a victory over Russia ...

          It is not real !!!
      3. +14
        11 January 2013 08: 55
        Hokkaido Island is the first on the way to Honshu Island. Between these islands, if I’m not mistaken, only 54 km by water. There is a sea route between the islands and if you look left and right from the side of the ship in the dark, you can see both luminous islands. There are enough fish both in the Japanese and in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. With the coastline there is mixed up. The shores are rocky. But then the maritime economic zone becomes five miles more.
      4. donchepano
        -19
        11 January 2013 11: 22
        The population of Japan is more than 100 million. Land is clearly not enough.
        let the most able-bodied third of Japan move to Russia in the northern territories (Magadan, Kamchatka, Krasnoyarsk Territory), develop industry, build roads, car factories, its technologies on our lands, etc.
        And upon graduation, they take Russian citizenship and actively participate in peaceful life.
        All the same, hardworking people - they must be occupied with their business. These are all from idleness, all these claims, otherwise all the islands, .... islands ... give us back.
        1. +6
          11 January 2013 16: 41
          Quote: donchepano
          let the most able-bodied third of Japan move to Russia in the northern territories (Magadan, Kamchatka, Krasnoyarsk Territory)
        2. +3
          11 January 2013 22: 06
          Let the Yankees let them into Alaska, at least some kind of compensation for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
        3. 0
          14 January 2013 11: 29
          They have enough land there! There are endless meadows and fields with forests. Young people work in big cities, and old-age pensioners live in ecologically clean 1-2-story small towns. So let them sit at home and not rock the boat. There was nothing fight with us.
      5. vyatom
        +3
        11 January 2013 12: 50
        Yes, it would be necessary to take Hokkaido, too, it was not Schaub. And let the captured japas in Togliatti with us collect Toyota and Subars.
    2. +3
      11 January 2013 08: 18
      and not only)
      1. predator.3
        +32
        11 January 2013 10: 02
        as soon as it comes to the Kuril Islands, this frame is remembered:
        - ja, ja Kemska volost! laughing
    3. Baboon
      +13
      11 January 2013 08: 18
      Well, Honshu, this will be too much, but we need islands so that the fleet can go out to the Pacific Ocean in winter, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk freezes, this is a strategic issue. Although once they and Honshu were unnecessary, and there were Russian settlements in the north of the island. and in the south of the island a few Japanese, just because of the remoteness decided to leave after all.
      1. +21
        11 January 2013 08: 30
        Quote: Babon
        Although once they and Honshu were unnecessary, and there were Russian settlements in the north of the island.

        Well, tell Honshu too much, Russia has a historical right to Honshu. We also need to return the territories occupied by Japan.
        1. +26
          11 January 2013 08: 52
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          , Russia has historical right to Honshu
          Alexander, let me disagree with this statement ... If historical law is the result of victory in the Second World War, then Yes .. And if you dig deeper ... There completely different peoples lived there, not Russian or Japanese ... However, with speculation appears in this approach ...
          The Japanese do not even need islands .. The Japanese need the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (it is now almost internal to Russia) with huge stocks of fish and crabs, they need an island raid to lock up the Russian Navy in Vladik ... And this is a huge threat to the eastern regions of Russia ...
          1. +14
            11 January 2013 10: 16
            Quote: domokl
            Alexander, let me disagree with such a statement ... If historical law as a result of victory in World War II, then Yes.

            Yes, and do not need to dig, Japan signed the surrender, and that’s the point !!!
            1. +6
              11 January 2013 10: 29
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Japan signed a capitulation, and that’s the point !!!
              And who wrote the surrender of Japan from the USSR? wink
              1. +6
                11 January 2013 12: 57
                Quote: domokl
                And who wrote the surrender of Japan from the USSR?

                Well it was something like this hi

                General MacArthur made a statement at the beginning of the signing ceremony, in which he reaffirmed his firm intention to take all necessary measures to ensure the prompt and full implementation of the surrender conditions.
                Japanese Foreign Minister Mamoru Shigemitsu and Chief of the General Staff Yoshiziro Umezu signed an act of surrender from Japan, Douglas MacArthur (USA), Chester Nimitz (USA), Bruce Fraser (Great Britain) and K.N. Derevyanko (USSR) signed their signatures on the Allied Powers.
                The signing ceremony lasted 45 minutes and ended with the performances of MacArthur and Nimitz.
                The signing of surrender by Japan put the last point in the history of the Second World War, in particular the Soviet-Japanese War and the Pacific War.
                1. Ratibor12
                  +11
                  11 January 2013 15: 35
                  Once I watched amerovskoy chronicle of the signing of Japan's surrender. Allied officers are walking along the deck. Suddenly the chronicle accelerates sharply, some blurred figures flicker. It lasts for a split second. Then again a normal picture. Became interesting. Knowing in advance what I would see, I watched the chronicle in slow motion. A Soviet officer was walking along the deck of the Missouri.
                  Such is the m ... la "censorship"!
                  1. mamba
                    +7
                    11 January 2013 16: 28
                    Quote: Ratibor12
                    Knowing in advance what I would see, I watched the chronicle in slow motion. A Soviet officer was walking along the deck of the Missouri.
                    Such is the m ... la "censorship"!

                    These jerks weren’t smart enough to just cut this piece out. laughing They did not count on the meticulousness of the Russian man.
          2. +2
            11 January 2013 12: 17
            Quote: domokl
            There completely different peoples lived, not Russian or Japanese ..

            Amused fellow
          3. +8
            11 January 2013 13: 33
            Quote: domokl
            There completely different peoples lived, not Russian or Japanese ...



            The Freedom Ainu Foundation accepts money in any form, in advance to everyone - THANKS; do not remain indifferent stop help ainu!

            PS: donations are also accepted as a natural product bully .
          4. +6
            11 January 2013 15: 35
            Quote: domokl
            Yes .. And if you dig deeper ... There completely different peoples lived there, not Russian or Japanese ...

            There, in Hokkaido, AINS lived - red-bearded and light-eyed.
            Russians?
            Probably just tartarians who lived everywhere, up to 40 parallels. And a little further. Where is the edge of the Great Wall of China.
            1. +2
              12 January 2013 08: 49
              and see for yourself - bearded, mustachioed, rather tall - obvious Rusak. in gowns such as Mongolian or Chinese. conclusion - they escaped from the Mongol captivity and moved east, where they settled unowned lands. and only then the Japanese came there and captured the Russian settlements
          5. mamba
            +5
            11 January 2013 16: 23
            Quote: domokl
            The Japanese need the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (it is now almost internal for Russia)

            And it should become such and formally. It is up to our legislators. wink And then all foreign poaching will cease, and Russia will trade licenses for the production of seafood in its territorial zone.
          6. +2
            11 January 2013 17: 51
            Duck Ainu lived there, the real Europeans, Indo-Europeans, the closest to them are the Slavs.
            And there are Manchus, who are not Chinese at all, and not the Mongoloid race at all.
            1. 0
              13 January 2013 08: 00
              Quote: Setrac
              Duck Ainu lived there, the real Europeans, Indo-Europeans, the closest to them are the Slavs.
              And there are Manchus who are not Chinese at all, and not the Mongoloid race at all

              The Jurchen, not the Ainu, lived on the mainland ...
              http://my.mail.ru/community/w_history/5F392E78D4AB7865.html

              We read, how terrible it is ...
          7. +5
            11 January 2013 19: 20
            In the Kuril Islands there are unique world reserves (about 300 million tons) of titanium-magnetite sand - a valuable raw material for the production (in powder metallurgy) of titanium. The market price of one ton of titanium is 12 thousand USD. All beaches and coastal shallows of the islands consist of this black sand. According to preliminary estimates by geologists, the reserves of titanium-magnetite sand here are estimated at almost 4 trillion USD. These are ~ 3 annual US budgets.

            Here are healing springs - where do travel companies look ??? Offshore oil, gas ...
            PS On the official political and geographical map published by Japan in 1701, there is not even the island of Hokkaido.
            1. +5
              11 January 2013 21: 54
              On one of the four islands, the volcano annually pushes along with lava approximately 26 kg rhenium (with the current technology you can extract just as much).

              Rhenium is produced annually around 30 kg worldwide.
              The Japanese lip can be rolled up. Satan-type lip-rolling machines, etc. ready.
              Not fair?!
              Contact the Sex Reform League.
              1. terp 50
                0
                18 January 2013 05: 45
                ... Siberia, the reserves of zircon sand (open and very rich in Zr) are the same in the Urals, and someone needs ALL of this? .. We are in Russia ...
          8. +1
            15 January 2013 13: 50
            Quote: domokl
            The Japanese do not even need islands .. The Japanese need the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (it is now almost internal to Russia) with huge stocks of fish and crabs, they need an island raid to lock up the Russian Navy in Vladik ... And this is a huge threat to the eastern regions of Russia ...

            To the point. "That's where the dog is buried" !!!!
        2. 0
          11 January 2013 08: 58
          Both Hokkaido and Honshu at one time belonged to the greater territory of Russia.
          1. +4
            11 January 2013 18: 16
            sasha.28blaga,

            I also love my country, Russia, but do not be like the Japanese, know the measure, otherwise it’s just funny to read
      2. +1
        11 January 2013 18: 10
        Baboon,
        Well, in general, you are talking about Hokkaido, geography still needs to be respected, but somehow it turns out in an "American" way, like Georgia, this is a southern state in America (Georgia) laughing
      3. 0
        13 January 2013 23: 40
        In-in !!! And then they huddle there different missile defense systems.
    4. Anton
      +10
      11 January 2013 08: 23
      As a result of this turn of events, Japan will become part of Russia) And we will finally have excellent cars and electronics))
      1. +2
        11 January 2013 09: 01
        Japan has too many islands, or rather Japan itself, has a large cluster of islands that are connected by bridges and underwater tunnels. The first underwater tunnel was built between Hokkaido and Honshu, and in my opinion it is the largest.
      2. terp 50
        0
        18 January 2013 05: 48
        ...and not only! ... and speak Japanese mum ...
    5. +24
      11 January 2013 09: 20
      We wish good luck to the Chinese comrades in the struggle for the disputed islands with the Japanese
      1. +6
        11 January 2013 10: 23

        We wish good luck to the Chinese comrades in the struggle for the disputed islands with the Japanese

        Comrades? Yes, such comrades will stab and turn a knife in the back, China and I have great territorial disputes, and several times blood flowed like a river.
        1. +3
          11 January 2013 13: 58
          Quote: cth; fyn
          Comrades? yes, such comrades will stab and turn a knife in the back,

          Today comrades ....... continue?
    6. oper66
      +2
      11 January 2013 10: 26
      Why do we need their kyuhyu and honshu, it can be easier to flood them and the ocean will be more good and the air is cleaner
      1. Misantrop
        +16
        11 January 2013 11: 28
        Quote: oper66
        it might be easier to flood them

        With this they themselves will successfully cope. At least with the help of American-built nuclear power plants (the most filthy and unreliable, but at the same time cheap construction). Soon already 2 years since the accident at Fukushima, and they still have not been able to repay the active zone. Not that you think about the sarcophagus. And someone after this will tell fables about the extreme efficiency of the capitalist economy? They are proud of robots all over the world, and to eliminate the accident, they were forced to order them in Germany laughing
      2. gribnik777
        +23
        11 January 2013 11: 35
        Quote: oper66
        it might be easier to flood them


        1972 year. Nixon in Moscow. Talk with Brezhnev face-to-face.
        Nixon:
        - You have persecuted dissidents.
        Brezhnev:
        - And you are being beaten by blacks.
        Nixon:
        “Your counters are empty.”
        Brezhnev:
        “And you are committing crimes in Vietnam.”
        Nixon:
        - We have an unsinkable aircraft carrier - Japan!
        Brezhnev scratched his "turnip", twisted his eyebrows:
        - Not! Well, why? We can sink too!
      3. +9
        11 January 2013 13: 35
        oper66

        Quote: oper66
        Why do we need their kyuhyu and honshu, it can be easier to flood them and the ocean will be more


        eh, comrade - you don’t understand anything in a quality marauder winked .
    7. +5
      11 January 2013 10: 33
      Here! Let us pay reparations.
      1. 0
        11 January 2013 11: 24
        For example, the payment of multibillion-dollar reparations with the wording “for the misuse of the resources of Sakhalin Island from 1905 to 1945 and the occupation of northern Sakhalin from 1925 to 1945”
        But in the locomotive firebox, who was burned (Sergey Lazo, Vsevolod Sibirtsev and Alexey Lutskoy) Is it time for relatives to declare this to INTERVENTS?
        And for the intervention in the troubled years of the revolution!
        Where is our Kolchak gold?
        There is one theory, and according to this theory, the Aponians at 45 bought themselves from their "allies" (for the gold of Kolchak) not feeble conditions of post-war life, i.e. than they live today.
        1. Misantrop
          +1
          11 January 2013 12: 08
          Quote: Papakiko
          Where is our Kolchak gold?

          Alas, this is not quite at the address. On Kolchak's gold, the Czech National Bank rose. Here the Japanese can only be pulled for aiding winked
          1. +3
            11 January 2013 12: 30
            Quote: Misantrop
            On the gold of Kolchak, the Czech National Bank

            On the gold of the savage Russian Empire after World War I, many civilized states rose up led by Great British.
            As the Jetlman says, the master of his word, if desired, gives the word, and in the absence thereof, takes it back.
    8. 0
      11 January 2013 11: 28
      I would still give a little EBN, a traitor, but then he would have ended, so he refused. What is not the second Khrushchev, also a democrat.
    9. +4
      11 January 2013 13: 28
      Alexander Romanov hi

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      as a result of this turn of events, Honshu is also part of Russia


      clinging to the chest a badge - "Today we are all Ainu" and stuffing the trunk with "flies":

      --- who is like, and I take myself to Fuji! stop tongue soldier

      I carefully lay the rake
      In front of the neighbor’s door.
      I want to learn mistakes.


      FREEDOM AINU !!!
      NO DICTATURE ABOUT INDIGENOUS POPULATION !!!
      JAPANESE IMPERIALISM WILL NOT PASS !!!
      Those who wish can enjoy it at a low price
      a visit to the beautiful Fuji.
    10. +1
      11 January 2013 13: 31
      Alexander Romanov
      Dear rabbleg, you are too verbose. But it is necessary briefly and clearly:

      FUCK TO YOU !!!

      Well, the extra islands will not hurt. After all, an economic zone will be attached to them.
    11. dusha233
      +1
      11 January 2013 14: 18
      I propose to present Tokyo to them, and astal Japan to join Russia!
      1. terp 50
        0
        18 January 2013 05: 57
        ... well, kaneeshna, - .. we won’t give an inch to our land .. ah, is there a whole Tokyo? ,, Well, men, you, damn it, and give ... m. they also wash the floors?
    12. +1
      11 January 2013 14: 29
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      In the early 90s, EBN was ready to give them two islands, but Japan did not like this option. Now they won’t get one,


      Putin, unlike the EBN, without blinking, gave China not the small islands on the Amur, and after that he also calmly gave the huge sea areas around the Kola Peninsula ... in return, Russia got a huge cookie as usual ... so I in your place would not be so categorical ... geeks in the Kremlin can give anything ...
      1. 0
        12 January 2013 21: 50
        In the north, it was not Putin who gave it, but Medvedev ... And he laid wreaths on the grave of Mannerheim ... trash tfu ...
        1. Andrey58
          0
          12 January 2013 23: 01
          Quote: I think so
          And he laid wreaths on the grave of Mannerheim ... tfu trash ...

          Mannerheim is a worthy officer of the Russian Imperial Army and an outstanding leader of the nation. The fact that he did not let the crowd of builders of the "bright future" into his country is a big plus. Otherwise, Finland would be in the same Mr., like the rest of the republics of the former union.
          1. stroporez
            +2
            13 January 2013 13: 47
            that Mannerheim is a colonel of the Russian General Staff, now it’s not accepted to recall. Therefore, +
        2. terp 50
          0
          18 January 2013 06: 01
          ... by the way, Mannerheim, NEVER (himself) an enemy of RUSSIA was
    13. VAF
      VAF
      +11
      11 January 2013 15: 53
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      then, as a result of this turn of events, Honshu will also be part of Russia


      Sanya, you can discard .... excessive modesty. except Honshu and Hokkaido, you can continue soldier

    14. 0
      11 January 2013 22: 54
      Almost a topic, but a joy!

      URGENT-URGENT-URGENT
      Look in "google maps"
      Everett. PC. Washington. water area "Puget Sound"
      On a scale of 20 meters.
      There is a half-submerged number 72 "Abraham Lincoln" at the Quay


      ps / relevance is not known. feel request
    15. Quiet
      0
      12 January 2013 11: 50
      The best option is to give these islands other, Russian names. But you need to call it so that the Japanese break their own language trying to pronounce them ... We will laugh at their odd attempts !!!!!! wassat good
    16. 0
      12 January 2013 14: 13
      Alexander Romanov
      90x EBN was ready
      The first promised the two islands of Khrushchev (mouth Gromyko) in the 50s! bully
  2. knyazDmitriy
    +4
    11 January 2013 08: 11
    hell to them, not the islands
    1. +9
      11 January 2013 08: 59
      Quote: knyazDmitriy
      hell to them, not the islands

      Exactly, and withdrawn from circulation in the media, the term "disputed islands".
      Islands - OUR-- and that’s it, that's it ..
      .A OF THOSE WHO DISPUTE TO SEND BY A KNOWN ADDRESS.
    2. AK-47
      +11
      11 January 2013 11: 20
      Quote: knyazDmitriy
      horseradish them, not the island

      Fair.
    3. 755962
      +11
      11 January 2013 16: 08
      Quote: knyazDmitriy
      hell to them, not the islands
  3. Vanek
    +10
    11 January 2013 08: 14
    Yesterday someone wrote for scientific work, I don’t remember exactly, something about the drake and their carnal joys.

    Guys, here it is.
  4. +7
    11 January 2013 08: 18
    [quote payment of multibillion-dollar reparations with the wording "for the misuse of the resources of Sakhalin Island from 1905 to 1945 and the occupation of northern Sakhalin from 1925 to 1945." So let them scratch themselves ...]

    It's time to start demanding compensation from the Japanese with interest, but the most important thing is to remember to turn on the counter!
  1. Baboon
    +1
    11 January 2013 08: 24
    Legally, it will not work, there are no precedents for payments, everything was lawful.
    1. +1
      11 January 2013 11: 15
      So it doesn’t matter either, the main thing is Yaroslavna’s crying, lawyers will understand, and public opinion is even less public, which would be in orderly rows ... Well, they’ll wipe them out with every election.
      1. Baboon
        +1
        11 January 2013 17: 47
        I wrote this to the fact that if you look legally, now our country is completely legitimately occupying all the islands. Japan generally abandoned these islands officially)) But the truth was that Khrushchev also showed up, he managed to blurt out the Japanese about Shikotan.
  2. +1
    11 January 2013 12: 35
    They still use resources illegally, like a country with highly developed technologies, but they cannot make normal navigation equipment, their fishing vessels are constantly fishing in our waters by "mistake".
  • Anton
    +4
    11 January 2013 08: 21
    Not figs were constantly wars of conquest. Let them forget about the islands and, as omsbon said above, they still owe everything to everyone.
    1. +10
      11 January 2013 09: 45
      Anton "Let them forget about the islands and as omsbon said above, they still owe everyone."
      These are Asians and they will not forget. Moreover, the conclusion of a peace treaty with them with the recognition of the Kuril Islands by Japan as Russia does not give anything. In the sense that under favorable conditions for Japan, the Japanese will certainly attack. In order to recapture and capture more. The best contract with the Asian countries, China and Japan, is the most powerful Red Banner Pacific Fleet! And of course, the most powerful land group in the Far East.
      1. Misantrop
        0
        11 January 2013 11: 32
        Quote: Nagaibak
        The best contract with the Asian countries, China and Japan, is the most powerful Red Banner Pacific Fleet! And of course, the most powerful land group in the Far East.

        So it’s clear from this point of view, to whom demilitarization of the Russian island is beneficial winked
  • +7
    11 January 2013 08: 23
    I had a chance to talk about this topic with ordinary citizens of Japan, and to my surprise I discovered that deep down in their hearts they understand perfectly that they won't break off, no matter how much they would like to.
    1. +8
      11 January 2013 08: 52
      Even more, they believe that you just need to forget about the islands and establish normal neighborly relations.
      1. +4
        11 January 2013 12: 26
        Quote: Narkom
        Even more, they believe that you just need to forget about the islands and establish normal neighborly relations.
        Ordinary normal people should think so, but not politicians and businessmen. It was a long time ago - I don't remember the name of our politician in a TV program, he says that he asked a friend of a Japanese businessman about violating his own Constitution and creating his own full-fledged armed forces. The latter, not at all embarrassed, answers: "... Russia will soon fall apart and we must have time to grab our piece of the pie." These are the hopes they are hatching, waiting for a major mess and a favorable situation. This explains all of them ..., explains this and the current concern of our elite - pancake caught on ...
    2. +2
      11 January 2013 14: 51
      Quote: Lantau
      I had a chance to talk about this topic with ordinary citizens of Japan, and to my surprise I discovered that deep down in their hearts they understand perfectly that they won't break off, no matter how much they would like to.

      And I talked with ordinary citizens of Russia and realized that they know that their opinion does not interest anyone in the Kremlin and they will wipe their feet about him, as has happened more than once.
  • +6
    11 January 2013 08: 24
    Well, okay if they are "inferior to Iturup"
    We are so to be with the king’s shoulder give way to them Hokaido and Honshu wink
    1. +7
      11 January 2013 08: 48
      I propose to allow them to live where they live, but to establish a fee for accommodation, of course they will refuse, then evict for non-payment ...
      1. +2
        11 January 2013 10: 02
        laughing Take the chervonets - And I have only five! - Come on, you will have to five!
      2. +5
        11 January 2013 10: 33
        A sane comment! But in general, this is all nothing more than a political game and the earnings of political capital. And if we recall the tsunami floods and so on, then "their" islands must first be restored and then the others must be sued, plus the Americans are pressuring to bark at Russia more often, it is now "fashionable" to humiliate Russia and the states pay for it, the main thing is that our snot does not chew.
        1. 0
          11 January 2013 14: 52
          Quote: klimpopov
          Americans are pressured to bark at Russia more often, it's now "fashionable" to humiliate Russia
          I agree.
  • +6
    11 January 2013 08: 25
    Sinners will not calm down in any way. It’s time to fly a strategist, or Marines training.
    Talking about territories is just a way for Japanese politicians to distract their population from domestic problems. The main idea is "We are not to blame - all troubles are from the Russian aggressors"
  • Mgydvin
    0
    11 January 2013 08: 29
    That they would shake ... one more time
    1. 0
      11 January 2013 12: 32
      Quote: Mgydvin
      That would shake them ..

      Already very recently, the truth is only about five. wink
  • merkel1961
    +4
    11 January 2013 08: 29
    States still provoke, who still needs to lock the Pacific Fleet at their bases? A couple of Japanese poachers should be put on crabs for food.
  • +6
    11 January 2013 08: 39
    Reading the news, one gets the impression that mother is encircling Russia on all sides, so that she could arm herself!
  • +15
    11 January 2013 08: 52
    Unhealthy sex fantasies, in mastering foreign lands, among the Japanese appear only when our leaders give weakness and become indecent for the leaders of a great power.
    The Japanese did not make any complaints to Stalin, they knew that he would answer them.
    Nikita the bald barely gave up the island, just did not have time.
    For the distribution of state lands (and for talking about such intentions) civil servants must be strictly punished as for treason in a cynical, especially obscene, perverse form.
    1. +6
      11 January 2013 10: 04
      for treason in a cynical, especially obscene perverted form? or punish in a cynical, particularly obscene perverse form? laughing
      1. sq
        +1
        11 January 2013 12: 57
        And so, and so, and publicly.
    2. donchepano
      0
      11 January 2013 13: 51
      Quote: Corsair5912
      For the distribution of state lands (and for talking about such intentions) civil servants must be strictly punished as for treason in a cynical, especially obscene, perverse form.

      SHOOT !!!
    3. mda
      mda
      +1
      11 January 2013 19: 44
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Unhealthy sex fantasies, according to the mastery of foreign lands, the Japanese appear only then

      Japan always had these fantasies, only they expressed them when they thought they would be given an islet.
    4. terp 50
      0
      18 January 2013 06: 10
      ... funny, naive people ... who will chop the head of a hen laying golden eggs? .. they are given, and they SHARE ..
  • +4
    11 January 2013 08: 54
    They get a donut hole and not the Kuril Islands!
  • +3
    11 January 2013 08: 58
    There can only be one answer -
  • +8
    11 January 2013 09: 03
    It’s not so simple. In 90g our democrats promised so much without brakes that now they have to disentangle. They concluded a wonderful SAKHALIN-1 project, very beneficial for others, where we should also pay for being milked, Forgot to see how our respected chief danced in the DUMA the apple tree in an embrace with Nemtsov, It was, It hurts so much pain, The food situation is aggravating, And Japan needs the main charm of what is there, The last fish field that we have left, The fishing fleet was practically not successfully acquired, they were taken away, Even the flag of Mongolia flashes there, There was our proposal to jointly equip the islands, but they don’t need to hurry, And the agreement to which the Japanese refer is generally unique, There and Sapporo were also given to them by the Japanese and there were no Ainu people, They lived in the Kuril Islands and Kamchatka and Sakhalin, and concluded the contract is also unique, By the way, never in the history of Japan have such contracts been concluded, it is the only one, Even in the days of the USSR it was a reserve edny krai, On the islands the entire periodic table, but left to descendants how waste-free mining technologies and metals will be created, the Fish District did not want to lose because of their activities, and in 90 the Yankees promised to help Japan with these NORTH ISLANDS, so here not only the Japanese but the beds are worn behind, Putin suggested that Japan help with the development of the entire Far East to BAIKAL inclusive, but they’re not in a hurry,
    1. +9
      11 January 2013 10: 27
      The Japs need to learn from the British. They simply do not approach the topic of the Kuril Islands from the other end .... In order to solve the territorial issue, the answer must be found in this plane precisely DECISIONS. Who can solve the issue of surrendering territories? Who! Who doesn’t need territories in Russia .... Well, or let’s put it this way ... they don’t understand, but why, in fact, does Russia need such a huge territory? In whose heads such a concept as territory, territorial integrity and other nonsense of this kind does not fit? The answer is as if on the surface !!! Among women! Here it is - a solution to this issue for the Japanese !!! It is necessary to find and move to the top managerial position of Russia henpecked !!! Next is a matter of technology. Appropriately processed the same p ... yes Raisa Maksimovna or there for example Naina Iosifovna .... and that’s it! The issue of the northern territories can be considered resolved. The loss of our territories by our country occurred during the time when the classic henpecked ones - Mechny and EBN - were in power. They all consulted, and did not hesitate to talk about it to the whole country, with their wives about making political decisions. As we just did not scold Lenya Brezhnev ... but Victoria Petrovna knew her place and didn’t get into her husband’s affairs. Our country in that era did not give a single millimeter of its territory to anyone! Gorbach came, who actually consisted of a regent with his wife, then immediately was given (for no reason!) The largest water area in the Pacific to the United States! .... Baba and territory, the essence of the matter, the two concepts are completely incompatible.
      1. mamba
        0
        11 January 2013 16: 50
        Quote: romanru4
        Gorbach came, who actually was a regent with his wife

        On the contrary, it was Raisa Maksimovna who was his regent, “exercising the powers of the head of state” at night, and he was the object of her guardianship.
  • Mgydvin
    +4
    11 January 2013 09: 08
    And why are we not asking for anything, we must also start tongue
  • demon ada
    +9
    11 January 2013 09: 16
    getting started
    return Alaska, California, the Bahamas, new Guinea, Finland, Poland, Crimea, Ukraine, Moldova, Kazakhstan, Mongolia China, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, the straits (connecting the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, and much more.
    here I have an appetite)))))
    and they are only 4 islands.
    where do we start
    1. Misantrop
      +4
      11 January 2013 11: 37
      Quote: demon ada
      where do we start

      From compilation of the FULL list. In order not to forget something in a hurry, and then not bite your elbows laughing
    2. +2
      11 January 2013 13: 08
      I think Alaska and California, Poland is not needed for nothing !!!
      1. 0
        11 January 2013 15: 47
        Plus Finland and ... perhaps Antarctica. And we don’t need a stranger.
      2. DAEDALUS
        0
        11 January 2013 19: 28
        New Guinea would be good if Mikluho-Maclay tried in vain!
  • fenix57
    0
    11 January 2013 09: 21
    "... However, Japan decided, apparently, to speak from a very tough position ..." - they don't remember history at all. It would not hurt to send them a textbook on HISTORY. They read it, remember ... Maybe they will become softer ... fool
  • +19
    11 January 2013 09: 27
    Haiku:
    "Horseradish bloomed on Fujiyama
    Not to see Japan of the Kuril Islands ... "
  • +1
    11 January 2013 09: 30
    The pre-election rhetoric of political parties in Japan has always been reduced to chopping off the islands of the Kuril chain from Russia. The chances of a particular party increase as one of them expresses this topic from a sophisticated perspective. Nevertheless, Japanese state men are clearly aware of the fact that Russia is too tough for them. To give at least one island is a crime. Before future generations, plus everything will create a dangerous precedent in my opinion when other states begin to express territorial claims against Russia. Russia has repeatedly been offered Japan joint cooperation on an economic plane, regarding the islands, but the Japanese have refused. My opinion on this issue is unambiguous. Nm span of the earth. Kisa Vorobyaninov spoke bargaining is not appropriate here!IMHO
  • +2
    11 January 2013 09: 35
    Good wishes of the author of the article Authorities. But Power can surrender anything. Because of personal gain. So there is reason to worry ...
  • 0
    11 January 2013 09: 49
    Yes, somehow boring to discuss this topic. yapas have no creative
  • vladds
    +1
    11 January 2013 09: 50
    And I suggest that since they started such a booze, if they raise their hands then take everything from Japan!
    from the people of kamikaze in the world will not get better!
  • +3
    11 January 2013 09: 58
    Well, in general, all this commotion beyond statements and supposedly substantiated requirements will not advance! And Japan will not conduct direct military operations against Russia because 1) the Japanese army and navy are not so strong as to confront the Russian Navy. 2) If a military conflict begins, then there is the option that China will intervene in it, which is aggressively inclined having forgiven Japan, and itself has territorial claims to the Yap.

    As for the United States, the Yankees are in no way able to help the Yaps in this holy cause, because it is not in their power.
  • +4
    11 January 2013 10: 02
    Yeah, the fatalism of the Japanese simply touches. Even if you bomb Japan to hell with a dog (I metaphorically), even then, shining from radiation like New Year trees, they will demand these islands.
    1. mamba
      +1
      11 January 2013 17: 14
      Quote: Averias
      fatalism of the Japanese simply touches.

      Fatalism is a belief in the inevitability of fate, that everything in the world is predetermined by Higher powers, rock.
      In this case, another diagnosis suggests itself: manic syndrome in the following forms:
      - angry mania, characterized by temper, irritability, aggressiveness, a tendency to easily conflict with others;
      - manic-paranoid mania - characterized by the appearance of delusional ideas of attitude and persecution;
      - persistent delirium of the greatness of one's own positive exclusiveness.
      Japanese manic syndrome is observed in the form of periodic psychoses on a territorial theme.
  • +5
    11 January 2013 10: 07
    when I was still at school in 2007 I went to Japan on a visa-free travel visa, and so there they had calls to return the northern territories at every step (I myself from Father Iturup) And right now the state of the old ladies invested in islands and, well ... japs get yes and the nuclear power I think they are afraid to attack
  • armorboy1
    +3
    11 January 2013 10: 11
    Iponians, it seems to me all the way ...
  • +1
    11 January 2013 10: 25
    Bring Topol to the shores of 10 pieces ... I think that's enough for unsuccessful trials ...
  • +5
    11 January 2013 10: 25
    What can one talk about with the occupied country in general, for starters it is necessary to at least restore sovereignty.
  • +14
    11 January 2013 10: 28
    Japs raise a national idea. Their population seems to be over 100 million ....
    Putin recently gave China the islands of the Big, Daman (watered with the blood of Russian guys)) part of Tarabarov ....
    Norway - DAM (iPhone)) gave the economic zone near Spetsbergen (half of Germany is the territory)
    The Japs hope for a miracle ... traitors in power are handing out territories to "other" states, bypassing the constitution of the Russian Federation, maybe they will break away, this is the root of the problem .... Let's remember one more betrayals of our leaders ...
    The current government has turned the country into a cash cow, into a means of extracting personal gain. At the same time, the authorities betrayed the history of the country, and its traditions, and its world significance. The recognition by the Duma of the Katyn shootings is only one of thousands of those actions that are being committed against the will of the people, against the will of history and the glory of the country. Starting with Gorbachev, traitors have seized control of the country and trade and trade in its interests in favor of their own benefit. For the green card of American citizenship - General Kalugin surrenders the network of our agents developed by his colleagues, for the "encouraging smile" of the US Congress, Vadim Bakatin passed the wiretapping scheme of the American embassy, ​​for the "encouraging pat on the shoulder of the US president" Minister Kozyrev handed over to the Americans the navigation zones in the Bering Strait, for "promise of gratitude" Yeltsin and Kozyrev signed an agreement under which 80% of the nuclear submarine fleet was scrapped ... A unique GRU station in Lourdos (Cuba)), Cam Ranh in Vietnam ... they have no money ??? And Abramovich was found to pay off 13 billion - for the national property ??? And where is the stabilization fund, which was invented just as a sophisticated scheme for centralized theft of Russia's oil super profits. As a result, about 500 billion dollars intended for the stabilization fund disappeared without a trace.

    these are the "roots" of this problem of the "northern territories" ....
    1. +1
      11 January 2013 11: 35
      Quote: Asgard
      Japs raise a national idea. Their population seems to be over 100 million ....
      Putin recently gave China the islands of the Big, Daman (watered with the blood of Russian guys)) part of Tarabarov ....
      Norway - DAM (iPhone)) gave the economic zone near Spetsbergen (half of Germany is the territory)
      The Japs hope for a miracle ... traitors in power are handing out territories to "other" states, bypassing the constitution of the Russian Federation, maybe they will break away, this is the root of the problem .... Let's remember one more betrayals of our leaders ...

      The namesake is your plus, ours does not cost anything to repeat the merits of the Democrats, the cattle shame everything, But in the end it still burps them. We see everything and not forgive.
      1. Sergh
        +3
        11 January 2013 12: 19
        Quote: Asgard
        Putin recently gave China the islands of Bolshoi, Damansky

        Guys, well, enough to interpret the liberals, if they wanted, they would figure it out for a long time, if not, then I will help you!
        Everything was laid by Gorbaty, and then continued finally by EBN. Putin took the reins, struggled for more than twelve years from the already signed document, where there was only one thing left to move the pegs, but the document is a document and the Chinese people will not miss this, which happened ...

        Further, during Yeltsin’s visit to Beijing in December of the same year, 1992, the following document was signed.
        JOINT DECLARATION ON THE BASIS OF RELATIONS BETWEEN THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE CHINESE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC. BEIJING. 18.12.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX.
        Article 12.
        The parties will continue negotiations on the not yet agreed sections of the border between the Russian Federation and the People’s Republic of China on the basis of agreements on the current Russian-Chinese border in accordance with generally accepted norms of international law, in the spirit of equal consultation, mutual understanding and mutual compliance in order to fairly and rationally resolve the border questions.
        Here, Russia once again recognizes that a) two islands are controversial and b) at the border, it is ready to be guided by generally accepted norms of international law. And the generally accepted norms of international law just establish in such cases the main channel as a dividing line.
        It can be seen from the documents cited that Gorbachev, a traitor to Russia, laid a mine under Russia's extremely weak position on the disputed territories. This once again indirectly proves my opinion that there is someone over our government, whose will they unquestioningly fulfill. They had never evoked warm feelings in me before, and now even more so. "Mr. President" swore to the Russians to respect the territorial integrity of the state. He wanted to spit on his own promises.

        This is the last paragraph.
        Read in detail:
        http://www.slavyanskaya-kultura.ru/news/politics/putin-otdal-ostrova-a-kitai-na-
        Nih-Stroit-Megapolis.html
        1. 0
          11 January 2013 18: 05
          Quote: Sergh
          Quote: Asgard
          Putin recently gave China the islands of Bolshoi, Damansky

          Recently???
          http://perevodika.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=2924#entry41400
          Here is a good reference to the history of the Cossacks on the Amur shores.
          To rummage there, you can find the Nerchensky treaty of state. borders with China.
          After which the representatives of the northern peoples revolted due to the intervention of the French, the British of the Chinese lands, and the Russians got into the bargain. The Chinese are of the "hunghuz" type, I don’t remember what their movement was called now, they slaughtered many Russian Cossack villages.
          Under the Nerchensky Treaty, several Chinese settlements were left in Russia with the preservation of the status of autonomies with their administrations. But after the massacre of Russian citizens on legalized territory, Chinese settlements were partially cut out in revenge for the atrocities of the rebels, and partially deported to Chinese territory.
          Our Cossacks attacked then the heat.
    2. 0
      11 January 2013 14: 58
      Quote: Asgard
      The current government has turned the country into a cash cow, a means of extracting personal profit.

      As in the old joke: "Truth" is not present, "Soviet Russia" is sold, "Komsomolskaya Pravda" is sold around the corner. What is left? Remained "Trud" for 3 kopecks.
      Very disappointing for the power ...
    3. Yoshkin Kot
      0
      11 January 2013 15: 54
      Putin? not communists? by concluding a border agreement with China on the Amur fairway (and not only)? "Rotten tsarism" thought what it was doing and the border passed along the Chinese coast, they knew that the current changes the coast
      1. -1
        11 January 2013 18: 10
        Quote: Yoshkin Cat
        Putin? not communists? by concluding a border agreement with China on the Amur fairway (and not only)? "Rotten tsarism" thought what it was doing and the border passed along the Chinese coast, they knew that the current changes the coast

        On the fairway, the Nerchinsk Treaty was concluded under the Tsar-Father in the 19th century.
        The contract fit on one page (approximately A-4).
        It is written simply and concisely.
    4. stroporez
      0
      13 January 2013 13: 16
      it is necessary to update the place of execution ... with the blood of the current government ... otherwise such a useful "tool" is idle ... to teach the Kremlin shalashoks to love their homeland ...
  • +4
    11 January 2013 10: 58
    unprecedented concessions. We do not have a peace treaty. They all Japan decided to surrender to us and move type to the camps on the Kuril Islands?
    What cunning people.
    1. +3
      11 January 2013 13: 48
      vorobey hi

      Quote: vorobey
      What cunning people.


      I'm shooting ducks.

      Ran to the sounds of shooting

      Curious hares.
  • andsavichev2012
    -12
    11 January 2013 11: 04
    Comrade Asgardou: "Unique stations" in Cuba and Vietnam have long lost their significance and uniqueness, as well as the Gabala station.
    The Katyn execution is the work of the NKVD, it is an axiom. I worked in one of the archives, when by the decree of Gorbachev they raised the docs.
    1. +5
      11 January 2013 11: 40
      Quote: andsavichev2012
      Comrade Asgardou: "Unique stations" in Cuba and Vietnam have long lost their significance and uniqueness, as well as the Gabala station.
      The Katyn execution is the work of the NKVD, it is an axiom. I worked in one of the archives, when by the decree of Gorbachev they raised the docs.

      I also thought so, but no, so Lourdes and Camran did not lose their significance, like the other Gabala, The thing is how to use everything, giving it back not to acquire, and this is the squandering of its property and sovereignty, and the execution in Katyn is gigantic provocation humpbacked traitor.
      1. -6
        11 January 2013 13: 10
        Quote: valokordin
        and the shooting in Katyn is a gigantic provocation of a hunchbacked traitor.
        The humpbacked everything on EBNa knocks, says that without reading these documents in the bedside table he threw and forgot, and then EBN took everything. And the fact that these documents are falsified is an axiom, a fact proved by a number of researchers and published. For the delivery of these stations, Putin was accused of high treason (Source: Ilyukhin V.I., Krasny Prosecutor. - M: Algorithm, 2012. - 304 p.) By the Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Security Committee V. Ilyukhin, who in March 2011 " suddenly "died.
    2. Misantrop
      +6
      11 January 2013 11: 43
      Quote: andsavichev2012
      "Unique stations" in Cuba and Vietnam have long lost their significance and uniqueness

      Is there anything new in their place to build a mind lacking or money? There is not Azerbaijan; exorbitant prices did not break for rent
      Quote: andsavichev2012
      Katyn execution - the work of the NKVD, this is an axiom

      In those archives about the cartridges from cartridges, which then the USSR simply did not have, nothing was indicated?
      1. 0
        11 January 2013 13: 21
        Quote: Misantrop
        In those archives about cartridge cases

        Not the most ironic argument.
        Here on the site more than once there have been publications about Katyn.
        Everyone sees what he wants to see, everyone hears what he wants to hear, everyone believes in what he wants to believe ...

        hi
    3. +4
      11 January 2013 13: 09
      Quote: andsavichev2012
      The Katyn execution is the work of the NKVD, it is an axiom.

      Just a remark
      Axiom, postulate - the starting point of a theory, accepted in the framework of this theory true without the need for proof and the underlying evidence of its other provisions. [1]
      Not rolling, now the wrong people have gone, give him evidence!
      My deed was earlier, at first the authorities said no, we believed, then the authorities began to repent, then we also believed.
      Sorry, how much can I?
      You need to know, but only facts can be known. And the facts are tight, or rather, they are not in Katyn!
      Quote: andsavichev2012
      I worked in one of the archives, when by the decree of Gorbachev they raised the docs.

      It will not be difficult for you to indicate its name itself, otherwise a painfully interesting name looms.
    4. +3
      11 January 2013 13: 20
      Quote: andsavichev2012
      I worked in one of the archives, when by the decree of Gorbachev they raised the docs.
      What did you work as? Dima Volkogonov has already worked there before you. Although he worked with them "specifically" probably a little later, which means that you did not see these documents in your eyes, everything was sewn with white threads.
    5. +6
      11 January 2013 13: 56
      andsavichev2012

      Quote: andsavichev2012
      Katyn execution - the work of the NKVD,


      Baby, why are you skipping school?

      Quote: andsavichev2012
      I worked in one of the archives,

      how often have you been chased for potatoes?

      Quote: andsavichev2012
      when, according to the decree of Gorbachev, they raised the docs.


      my dear, even if you believe in this Goebbels fake, let's ask why the Poles have complaints against us? because their partners in the European Union - the Germans killed thousands of times more Polish officers, about the soldiers and civilians - I will not say anything.
      Why do the Poles lie about the fate of prisoners of the Soviet-Polish war?
    6. +5
      11 January 2013 18: 10
      What does it mean to work in the archive when they raised documents in Katyn?
      Fakes fumbled?
      In the Katyn case of 2, an irrefutable fact confirming the shooting of the Poles by the Germans:
      1. The lack of a court decision on the fate of the Poles.
      In the USSR, throughout its history, there is not a single fact of mass executions in peacetime, and even more so of merciless ones.
      Fools simply can not understand that the USSR and the NKVD did not hide anything from the people, there was no need, the materials of all trials and court sentences were printed in newspapers.
      And for the Germans, the facts of mass unbridled executions are an ordinary episode that number in the tens of thousands across Europe.
      2. The Poles were kept as prisoners of war, with the preservation of uniforms and personal belongings, and not as prisoners, and most of them were later organized into the Polish army.
      Therefore, the NKVD had absolutely no reason to shoot the Poles, Hitler’s implacable enemies, and for the Germans it was a necessity, the Ost plan provided for the complete extermination or eviction of the population of Poland, declared the territory of the Reich.
      1. +1
        11 January 2013 20: 52
        Corsair5912

        maybe he believes in Fomenka?
  • knife
    -2
    11 January 2013 11: 04
    Yes, the Japanese are trying to learn from the Ukrainians :) "you give us land, we will give you kisses" :)
    1. +1
      11 January 2013 11: 45
      In addition to the above, the archival documents found in the Katyn case were fabricated, which prevented the NKVD-MGB from destroying them — these documents in order to whitewash themselves and leave no traces, why did they have to be stored for their headache?
      1. 0
        11 January 2013 13: 14
        Quote: valokordin
        Yes to the above, archival documents found in the Katyn case are fabricated

        Inattentively read dear valokordin , it specifically says
        Quote: andsavichev2012
        Katyn execution - the work of the NKVD, this is an axiom. I worked in one of the archiveswhen, according to Gorbachev’s decree, they raised the docs.

        wink
    2. Nastyusha
      0
      11 January 2013 12: 56
      Funny, there is something in it.
  • +1
    11 January 2013 11: 19
    On foot erotic journey let them go with their claims. And at the same time let them bring with them those assholes who share and support these claims.
  • Nechai
    +3
    11 January 2013 11: 26
    Quote: Babon
    Legally, it will not work, there are no precedents for payments, everything was lawful

    How was it not? And the "holocaust"? There was no our persistence in the continuous milking of the defeated enemy. On the contrary, the sentimental pity of the poor.
    Quote: klimpopov
    But in general, this is nothing more than a political game and earning political capital.

    Klim, toys with a long-range scope! Revival of the JAPANESE EMPIRE, revision of the results of the 2nd World War. And then - "Asia for Asians!", Under the rule of the sons of Yamato. So, the "problem of the northern territories" is really a problem for them - the problem of the first step towards revenge!
    Quote: fenix57
    It would not hurt if they could send the textbook according to HISTORY. Nehai is revered, remembered ....

    At one time, the Japs ambassador very wittily responded to the claims of superhumans to unleash the 2nd front against the Soviets in the Far East: "At Khasan we went through elementary school, on Khal-Khin-Gol - secondary school and we are not in a hurry to get a university one!" Only the military power of Russia and the UNITED SOCIETY domestic policy will revive the prodny modesty and restraint of the island nation ...
  • Atlon
    +14
    11 January 2013 11: 44
    And I propose to rename the islands. Come up with Russian names. Well, let's say Iturup - the skeleton of Suvorov, Khabomai - Nakhimov, Shikotan - Kutuzov, Kunashir - Nevsky.
    What for? And with an eye to the future! In 100 years, they will forget what they used to be called, and it is more difficult to demand islands with Russian names. And in general, this old song, all from the same opera: "Revision of the results of the Second World War". There, Kaliningrad will be demanded, and a lot more ... So the answer is the same - blow the pipe (leather)!
    1. Russian sniper
      +4
      11 January 2013 12: 07
      A very acceptable offer. hi Still need to develop the infrastructure of the islands and the objects of their protection. wink The Kuril Islands are the exit of our ships from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to the Pacific, which is why we need them.
      1. Atlon
        +2
        11 January 2013 12: 20
        Quote: Russian Sniper
        The Kuril Islands are the exit of our ships from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to the Pacific, which is why we need them.

        Mostly because of the 12 mile zone. There are not so much military interests as economic ones. Fish, you know ... And if the islands are Japanese, Russia’s passage to the Sea of ​​Japan will be completely closed.
    2. +1
      11 January 2013 14: 44
      Rename all disputed territories in Kemsku parish, and perepinivat their claims from one to another, they say first agree among themselves, you look after a year or so another so confused that it will not come to us.
  • tolan777
    +1
    11 January 2013 12: 58
    On these islands there is a sickly part of the world's proven reserves of rhenium - the metal, which is extremely necessary for the electronic industry.
    "You need such a cow yourself" - shish the Japanese, not the islands!
  • 0
    11 January 2013 13: 02
    All this rhetoric is good, but we just forget that our Far Eastern military district is weak in every way. No air defense (if any, then obsolete), all of our new tanks in the Caucasus and the central region. There is not as much manpower as we would like, even to Moscow they are more likely to be disconnected for elections. I don’t know about the fleet, but it seems like 60% also requires a cap. dry dock repair. But we are sooooo close to Japan .... Airplanes will fly from there instantly. And not one will be shot down.
    Second. A friend of mine lives in Vladivostok, he told me how the cars pass customs clearance, i.e. if "uplochino" then nothing. Then I think that day "X" we will find on our territory at all key points of the special forces group that will undermine and cut everything that is required. Japanese superiority will be more than 1 in 20.

    You ask, why not beat out ??? Is logical. And by whom? There are no troops there, but it’s difficult to come + for a long time. The main thing is a long time. There will already be such a bridgehead, they will build a line of the mannerheim over the past month and a half.
    After it becomes clear that they won’t be knocked out of the way, and the war drastically drags on, Japan’s great friends will join. And the UN puts pressure on us economically. And no matter how we are left, not only without the Ostrava, but without the Far East by half.

    And don’t think that I’m proposing to give the skeleton, no, I was extremely happy about the tsunami of that time, the United Nations postponed all this for at least a year.
    1. Atlon
      +1
      11 January 2013 13: 34
      Quote: Fibrizio
      But we are sooooo close to Japan .... Airplanes will fly from there instantly. And not one will be shot down.

      Not a fact ... But even so, so what? Well flew, then what? Bombs fell and flew away? laughing Meaning? In response, this will fly, Hiroshima seems to be a kindergarten ... wassat

      Regarding the second part of the post, generally perverted fantasies ... Besides, "long" is nonsense. One landing division, airlifted by transport aircraft, will drop the Japs into the sea. But I think it won't come to that. It's easier to fuck around Tokyo.
    2. +1
      11 January 2013 18: 55
      Fibrizio,
      A strategist, you’re our paper one, and for this they keep the Airborne Forces, and you forgot about strengthening the air defense on the islands after Medvedev’s visit, and the tanks in the Far East are not outdated, but very combat ready, yes, they were built long ago, but passed on time modernization in necessary volumes. The Pacific Fleet, although not great, will cope with the Japanese, and the Japs will not climb, they have trouble with Korea and China is far from ally to them.
      A foothold, a foothold in the brain, clean the foothold wassat
    3. +1
      12 January 2013 00: 54

      In 2012, the latest S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems and the Tor and Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile systems entered combat duty in the Eastern Military District
      DECEMBER 11, 2012 11:20
      1. 0
        12 January 2013 01: 14

        this is also a photo from Primorye
      2. 0
        12 January 2013 01: 47
        Fibrizio, I don't know where you live there "well, sooo close to Japan ...." Personally, I live in the center of Primorye, and over my head Russian planes (which, in your opinion, do not exist at all!) Sometimes so pass that I want to burrow into the ground! Don't panic ahead of time.
    4. 0
      12 January 2013 14: 01
      except for a long time - nothing. there’s only one transib, bam, too, it’s a traffic jam on the railway, airplanes heavy equipment will be very expensive, and most importantly, how many Ruslans are there in the BTA?
      1. 0
        12 January 2013 18: 54
        And how much, I dare to inquire, does the Japanese fleet have landing ships and landing craft? And how many l / s and equipment can they land on an unequipped coast? Can it be without traffic jams on the railway do? And without panic? Yes, by the way, in the Air Force BTA of the Russian Federation there is not only the An-124.
        1. Misantrop
          +1
          12 January 2013 23: 09
          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          And how many l / s and equipment can they land on an unequipped coast?

          Under Theodosius, NATO eagles were already trying to work out the landing:
          http://video.mail.ru/mail/irina_forova/_myvideo/1.html

          Dukes managed to get on the unsteady. Look, you will not regret

          wassat
  • 0
    11 January 2013 13: 03
    Academician Sakharov, at one time, suggested placing nuclear mines around America, and if something went wrong, blow it up. A giant wave (tsunami) will rise and take an eraser and erase America from the map. It can do the same with Japan, especially since they have so many tsunamis. No one will think anything. Type of element !!!
  • 0
    11 January 2013 13: 04
    New Japanese "song" about the South Kurils

    Rather, a fairy tale about a white bull-calf. Usual domestic political rhetoric, directed more towards its electorate.
  • Nechai
    0
    11 January 2013 13: 10
    Quote: tolan777
    On these islands there is a sickly part of the world's proven reserves of rhenium - the metal, which is extremely necessary for the electronic industry.

    Actually, there is the ONLY large, localized, with a high metal content field. Rhenium is also the jet engines of the following generations. Hypersound without them is NEVER! And the technology is environmentally friendly we already have! Not so long ago, the FSB reported that in St. Petersburg they took for ... stsuku, who tried to sell amers and samples and all technical documentation for the enrichment and mining of metals, based on the effect of its accumulation by bacteria. Moreover, each of the species of these protozoa accumulates molecules of ONLY a certain PURE metal. Imagine how effective IT is! And turns over ALL mining and metallurgical industries!
  • kukuruzo
    +1
    11 January 2013 13: 39
    long ... Japanese song ... it’s good that those in power raise money from others, raise and share ... otherwise they would merge these islands ... when there is money, there is no patriotism
  • 0
    11 January 2013 14: 35
    the yupps need to somehow calm their electorate and talk here though knowing our corrupt rulers everything can be in Russia mother
  • +1
    11 January 2013 14: 53
    Put article plus sign.
    As they say here in Russia, "To want is not harmful and it is harmful not to want."
    The Japanese are better off not translating the brain will break and computers burn.
    Correctly said by the author, the train (resolving the issue of the islands) left in the 90s, then you had to move your brains and buy all four islands for a box from a copy machine with bucks or yen. But greed fraer ruined.
    -----------------------------
    Here in the comments sounded about "Kolchak's gold". My purely personal opinion on this issue is that STE gold was transported in an echelon with Kolchak and the Entente missionaries. The missionaries handed over the admiral in red, and they themselves rode with the gold to Vladik, from where they took them away by steamers along their own bottom.
  • +1
    11 January 2013 16: 35
    would have hinted to them long ago that we can annex Japan to the Kuril Islands if they so wish
  • Bashkaus
    +2
    11 January 2013 17: 00
    Putin enters a large beautiful hall. There are a lot of people around, he is shyly asking, where should I go? Over there, affably holding Obama’s shoulder brings Putin to the table.
    Have a seat, respectfully pushes back for him the prime minister of Britain.
    Here is the pen, here is the document that you must sign, says the President of France.
    Putin looks at the document with Japanese characters and the outline of the Kuril Islands, twists and turns, then asks: Tell me, is this paper with watermarks?
    Of course! meets the prime minister of Italy.
    - Very good (continuing to examine the document), tell me, but are these Japanese prints real?
    -Of course, the prime minister of Japan is ingratiatingly answering.
    Putin took a pen and brought to the place where he should sign it suddenly raises his eyes and in a guilty voice at the leaders of the Group of Eight gathered around the table asks: Excuse me, but how to spell, together or separately, the words are not X .... I?
    1. Cavas
      +5
      11 January 2013 17: 06
      Quote: Bashkaus
      Excuse me, but how to write correctly, together or separately, words to no one and X .... I?


      That's right like that ...

      YOU FRIENDS JAPANESE.




      .
      1. +3
        11 January 2013 17: 10
        Quote: Cavas
        That's right like that ...

        It would be more correct to give them a Dahl dictionary with underlined necessary words-Let them study wassat
      2. Igor Belov
        0
        11 January 2013 18: 39
        Quote: Cavas
        That's right like that ...

        Well or so (the sign is international) ...
        1. +1
          15 January 2013 14: 02
          So funnier laughing
          1. 0
            15 January 2013 15: 10
            Haha smiled :)
  • 0
    11 January 2013 17: 34
    we will give Iturup to you, so be it, and you will “return” to us all the other territorial objects of the South Kuril Islands ...


    First, I ride you, and then you drive me!
  • toguns
    0
    11 January 2013 17: 45
    the ears of a dead donkey Japs, not smoked :)
  • 0
    11 January 2013 19: 31
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Honshu is also part of Russia


    Quote: Vladimirets
    Hokaido will not take?

    I am for Okinawa and the Ryukyus Archipelago. There are not enough tropics in the Russian Federation. smile
  • Lucky
    0
    11 January 2013 19: 46
    Japan is a strong adversary, it was not at all advisable to start a war with them now, there will be a lot of blood!
  • +2
    11 January 2013 20: 30
    Our leaders are to blame! First, bald Misha with his fucking mentality began to give away EVERYTHING, then he continued with EBN - b...dztsin. After all, what kind of idiot do you have to be to blurt out in a multinational state with ethno-elites striving for power in their regions - take as much sovereignty as you can swallow! And even after that, the agreements reached with other countries on territorial and economic disputes cannot be considered our victory. Seeing all this, why don’t the Japanese try to get the islands? And, if instability begins in Russia, to which it is being vigorously pushed, then it will have no time for the islands at all.
    Even now they can’t get their hands on the Far East; the Chinese are pouring in there and developing it. And the Japanese think - why are we worse? In case of instability in Russia, the Japanese can simply capture the islands by landing there and since Moscow will not have time for the islands, this plan (with the strengthening of the “self-defense” forces) may work.



    --
  • Oleg Rosskiyy
    +1
    11 January 2013 21: 25
    Forge for them a ritual, samurai knife (a hara-kiri knife, I don’t remember what it’s called), and present it to them instead of the islands.
    1. Andrey58
      0
      11 January 2013 23: 15
      Kusungobu.
    2. 0
      11 January 2013 23: 29
      Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
      Forge for them a ritual, samurai knife (a hara-kiri knife, I don’t remember what it’s called), and present it to them instead of the islands.

      Quote: Andrey58
      Kusungobu.

      he's tanto, he's eroidoshi, he's metezashi.
  • Andrey58
    0
    11 January 2013 21: 59
    There is no need to laugh at the Japanese statement. It is very revealing. For the first time in 50 years, the current chicken industry has retreated from the idea of ​​​​the indivisibility of the Kuril Islands. This is stated as it should be for Japanese politicians. Voiced primarily for Japanese society. They gradually accustom him to thought. The very fact that the Japanese abandoned the four islands entirely is important. This is probably an attempt to find allies in a possible confrontation with China.
    1. 0
      11 January 2013 22: 58
      Do they really want Russia as an ally? We will not enter into any alliance with them, we signed a document renouncing the islands, forget about them and there is nothing to remember about the islands.
      1. Andrey58
        0
        11 January 2013 23: 11
        Quote: Simon
        We will not enter into any alliance with them,

        Why so categorical? As the famous Soviet politician Winston Randolphovich Churchill said, in politics there are no permanent friends, there are only permanent interests. Russia's permanent interest in the Far East is that no country in the region can strengthen itself enough to threaten our borders. The Chinese are getting stronger, which means we need to make friends with the Japanese against them. The Japanese will become stronger, we will be friends with the Chinese.
  • +2
    11 January 2013 22: 57
    It is necessary to put forward territorial claims to northern Hokkaido. The Russians there were somehow faster than the Japs...
    1. Andrey58
      +1
      11 January 2013 23: 06
      Leave Hokkaido alone. Every third person there already speaks Russian. We have a lot of our own land, but we can’t restore order.
      1. 0
        12 January 2013 16: 33
        Quote: Andrey58
        We have a lot of our own land, but we can’t restore order.

        I think that if the ancestors first put things in order and then went after the zipuns, then the Russian Empire would by definition not exist!
        Empires are viable as long as they expand their borders.
        This is one of the recipes, although not the most correct one, for the existence of empires.
        CCCP retreated from it, and did not use anything else in return.
        1. Andrey58
          0
          12 January 2013 17: 45
          Quote: Cynic
          CCCP retreated from it, and did not use anything else in return.

          The USSR collapsed just in the process of expanding towards Afghanistan.
          1. 0
            12 January 2013 18: 08
            Quote: Andrey58
            The USSR collapsed just in the process of expanding towards Afghanistan.

            Nope, just after I abandoned this extension!
            They might say, are these same, what’s their name, rebels?!
            I'm wondering why we don't know the history of our own country? The Basmachi were cleared out in the late thirties, on their own territory, and because of the cordon they moved even later!
            The forest brothers and others like them were cleared out in the late 50s, it’s a pity not to zero!
            1. Andrey58
              0
              12 January 2013 23: 05
              Quote: Cynic
              Nope, just after I abandoned this extension!

              Expansion for empires is critical when there is a lack of some resources. The USSR had everything above the roof. It collapsed solely because it had long since fallen into disrepair. And this started long before the 80s.
              1. 0
                12 January 2013 23: 10
                Quote: Andrey58
                Expansion for empires is critical when there is a lack of some resources.

                Nope.
                The empire exists only while moving, if it stops it falls!
  • knyazDmitriy
    0
    12 January 2013 02: 10
    Quote: cth; fyn
    There are no fish there, and the winds are constant

    Hello Alexander!
    Why the fuck do we need this Japan ??? We look.



    Better let's go, take Australia, there is a kangaroo ...

    Well, don’t tell me, it’s warm in Japan. and if the current stirs up palm trees will grow in the seaside...
  • Region65
    +2
    12 January 2013 09: 16
    The Japanese have such a public holiday - once a year the entire population of the country comes ashore and, for XNUMX hours, looking through binoculars, drools at the Russian Kuril Islands. The holiday is called Raskatika Tygubischo
  • 12qw34
    0
    12 January 2013 10: 49
    cunning Japanese wink

    but the Russians are more cunning drinks
  • Quiet
    +1
    12 January 2013 11: 20
    Quote: crazyrom
    After each of their screams, it is necessary to establish 2 new cities and a military base in the Kuril Islands.


    They will become hoarse and there will be silence!!!
  • 0
    12 January 2013 11: 47
    We are slowly giving it to the Chinese, no one is buzzing, but then they shouted it all over the Internet angry
    1. 0
      12 January 2013 16: 41
      Quote: s.cot
      shouted all over the Internet

      But we have freedom, we want to shout, we want to remain silent, sir s.cot .
      Hmm, your nickname has a very interesting Russian transliteration. Was that intended or what?
  • 0
    12 January 2013 19: 07
    they will achieve we will free the long-suffering people of Japan from the yoke of the emperor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 0
    12 January 2013 20: 47
    According to written agreements with the USA and Great Britain (Yalta and Potsdam), the USSR entered the war against Japan subject to the restoration of its sovereignty over South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands. In 1946, the Allied command excluded the Kuril Islands (Chishima Islands), the Habomai (Habomadze) group of islands, and Shikotan Island from Japan. In 1951, a peace treaty was concluded in San Francisco between Japan and the allies, according to which Japan renounced all rights to the Kuril Islands and South Sakhalin. At the same time, according to the official position of Japan, Iturup, Shikotan, Kunashir and Habomai were not part of the Kuril Islands, and Japan did not abandon them, therefore the USSR, Poland and Czechoslovakia did not sign the agreement. In 1956, the USSR and Japan adopted the Moscow Declaration, which ended the state of war and restored diplomatic relations between the two countries, and also recorded the USSR's consent to the transfer of the islands of Habomai and Shikotan to Japan, but only after the conclusion of a peace treaty. However, later Japan refused to sign a peace treaty under pressure from the United States, which threatened that if Japan withdraws its claims to the islands of Kunashir and Iturup, the island of Okinawa, which was then occupied by the United States, would not be returned to Japan.
    For more than 60 years the situation has been practically insoluble. because Neither party will be able to renounce rights to the islands.
  • 0
    12 January 2013 22: 03
    All these squabbles with the islands mean that the Japanese leadership sees no other way to keep the population of their country in subjection except by searching for EXTERNAL ENEMIES. Similar situations exist in a number of European countries. This means things are very bad for them, and this in turn means that they are already mentally ready to fight... For Russia this is a very, very bad signal. In fact, the West is about to start the 3rd World War, for which Russia is absolutely not ready, and is unlikely to survive in it...
    1. +1
      12 January 2013 22: 30
      Quote: I think so
      In fact, the West is about to start the 3rd World War, for which Russia is absolutely not ready, and is unlikely to survive in it...

      Not a single state will survive in World War III!
      I will not refer to the joke about stone axes, but the infrastructure of all states will definitely be destroyed.
      Given the size of our territories, the damage will be lower. What can we say about this, Yusov’s analysts calculated all this back in the last century and came to the conclusion that it is more expensive to fight with the CCCP! This is then with multiple superiority in carriers!
  • 0
    13 January 2013 01: 05
    “We don’t need an inch of someone else’s land, but we won’t give up our enemy either...” (c)

    Our ancestors were smart.
  • Genrichra
    0
    14 January 2013 01: 16
    The Third World War ended in 91 not in our favor. And the fourth is already in full swing and will soon have a denouement.
  • 0
    14 January 2013 03: 40
    Let you!!! Even one “poplar” is enough for them!!! But no? Mother Nature will finish her job for us!!!!! "It's a sin to laugh at sick people!!!!" hi
  • 0
    15 January 2013 15: 08
    This fairy tale about the white bull has always amused me and continues to amuse me.))
  • warrior2013
    0
    15 January 2013 20: 06
    God forgive me, but when will they shake so much that they will forget about them..
  • AlexanderS
    0
    16 January 2013 12: 41
    When they are shaken up, then we will do as Zhirinov does: we will propose to create an Autonomous Republic of Japan in the area... of the Chona River.
  • 0
    16 January 2013 20: 04
    Relevant again:

  • 0
    16 January 2013 21: 53
    Here, I would like to add that the Japs would not have shown such activity if not for the support of the Americans. These use any activity to surround us from all sides.
    1. sleepy
      +1
      17 January 2013 05: 41
      How do the Japanese see Russia?
      1. sleepy
        +1
        17 January 2013 05: 51
        IN NO EVENT, under any circumstances, do we call the Southern Kuril Islands any "northern territories"
        "disputed territories" - THE SOUTHERN KURIL ISLANDS
        and ni..t.
        Just by naming (and implying) "northern territories" islands, in the eyes of the Japanese we recognize their claims,
        and notice that they don't say "islands", they say "territories", by which term they mean see the list below:

        1) O. Kunashir with islands:
        2) Glorious or Lovtsova
        3) O. Chaek;
        4) O. Iturup with islands
        5) O. Lebed
        6) O. Kamen-Lev
        7) O. Helmet
        8) O. Lonely;

        Islands of the Lesser Kuril Ridge:
        9) O. Shikotan (aka Spanberg, aka Sikotan) with adjacent islands:
        10) O. The Ninth Val (Camo);
        11) O. Medium
        12) O. Dalniy
        13) O. Grieg
        14) O. Aivazovsky, as well as the rest of the islands of the Lesser Kuril Ridge, sometimes called Flat
        (in Japanese now - Habomai, and earlier Suisho):
        15) Polonsky (Taraku) with the adjacent islands Rifovy (Amagi-sho) - 20 sq. Km
        16) Shattered Islands
        17) Fox Islands (Todo) with cave rocks (Kanakuso) and Parus (Hokoki)
        18) Cones Islands (Checkers or Kabuto) with rock Candle
        19) Green Island (Sibotsu) - 45 sq. Km
        20) O. Yuri (Yuru) - 10 sq. Km with the islands of Demin (Harukarumosiri)
        21) O. Anuchina (Akiyuru) with a rock Amazing (Hanare) - 5 sq. Km
        22) O. Tanfilieva (Suisyo) - 20 sq. Km
        23) O. Signal (Kaigara)
        24) O. Storozheva (Khomosiri or Muyka) with the drying rock (Odoke)

        The Japanese "broad sense" of the disputed territories includes the following (quote):
        In the official letter of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan, “Toki no ugoki” (1968, No. 11, p.22), it was stated that Kunashir, Iturup, Shikotan and Habomai form the Northern Territories in the “narrow sense”, and in the “wide sense” these all other Kuril Islands and southern Sakhalin with adjacent islands.
        These include Moneron Island and Tyuleniy Island.
        Since that time, Japanese ultranationalists began to include in the "northern territories" such territories of the USSR and Russia as Kamchatka, Primorye, Amur Region and Northern Sakhalin (Sukan Jiji, 1968, No. 51, p. 36).
        1. sleepy
          +2
          17 January 2013 06: 01
          For campaign propaganda, the Sokurov Islands were awarded the honorary Japanese Order of the Rising Sun with golden rays ...
          The director emphasized that Russia has a lot to learn from the Japanese people, and also noted that he had more than once thought about the need for the two countries to “brother.”
          “And, probably, you need to give the Japanese people beautiful lands that belonged to them,” RIA Novosti quoted him as saying.

          There are other medals.
  • 0
    17 January 2013 19: 14
    The Japanese are probing, - they’ll throw out an idea and see how we react - they’ll keep throwing out the bait for a very long time. Like new elections, we’re waiting for the next joke, well, in the process, - so that the boys don’t fight laughing
  • enot555
    0
    31 January 2013 17: 50
    By the way, there are about 120 million of them on the islands, and there are 140 million of us, so they seriously want to take a bite there, just like many others... Fuck them, of course, and not the Kurillas, but if you cling to them, then everyone will go to the bottom , there will be room for them))
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