Borrell to Orban: No one is keeping Hungary in the EU by force

The head of European diplomacy, Josep Borrell, told the head of the Hungarian government, Viktor Orban, that no one is forcibly keeping Hungary within the European Union. Thus, Borrell, who is also vice-president of the European Commission, responded to the words of the Hungarian Prime Minister, who called the European Union a bad parody of the USSR.

During the conference "Europe and the World" Borrell said that he remembers Budapest in 1956, when Soviet soldiers drove through its streets Tanks, and does not see any similarity between the “Soviet occupation” of Hungary and the processes taking place in the European Union. According to the head of EU diplomacy, no one is forcing Hungary to remain in the EU using military force.

Previously, Orban said that Hungary's being part of the socialist bloc was a tragedy, but the country's current membership in the European Union is a comedy at best. The Hungarian Prime Minister also called Brussels a poorly executed modern parody of the USSR. If previously Budapest had to obey Moscow in everything, now the Hungarian leadership is forced to be similarly influenced by Brussels.

According to the Reuters news agency, most likely, in this way Orban is starting a campaign related to the upcoming elections to the European Parliament next year, and these words were spoken in the days when Hungary remembers the anti-Soviet uprising that took place in Budapest in the fall of 1956, suppressed by the Soviet army.

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[K-50]

Borrell to Orban: No one is keeping Hungary in the EU by force

Yah!
And how they persuaded, how they persuaded!
Just like in the joke: “...what, you’re not breathing? And how you were breathing, how you were breathing!”

[Peter1First]

There is an obvious substitution of concepts here! Hungary was and will be a European country, with traditional European values... But Borel himself, although born in Europe / Catalan /, has long since sold himself wholeheartedly to overseas masters and is fully earning his salary by introducing “new European democratic values”, which They have nothing to do with old Europe at all!

[Silver99]

Tell me, what is Orban wrong about? What is the European Union? This is an artificial unification of countries, moreover, deprived of sovereignty and independence, no one has the right to do what is beneficial to his country, collective farm in the worst sense, common borders, blurring of nationality and identity, imposition of gay propaganda and religion, destruction of the institution of family ........ what is Orban wrong about? Under the USSR there were more freedoms and prospects.

[Al manah]

What kind of European values ​​are there?

[credo]

That Borrell is wrong, that Orban is wrong.
Both tell lies and both shield themselves.

The Hungarians, represented by Orban, forgot who they were together with fascist Germany for the USSR and how many bloody crimes they committed on the territory of the USSR, after which an unspoken order appeared not to take them prisoner.
Therefore, the suppression of the uprising in post-war Hungary was the legal right of the winner, so that a fascist entity would not be revived in a new guise on the border in the USSR.

As for Borrell, he too should clear his brain and remember under what conditions various loans and tranches are allocated in the EU to poorer and less developed countries, members of the EU. The epic of the UK’s divorce from the EU is still fresh in the memory of many and there was no sign of any mutual understanding between the parties.

In general, two balabols and no more.

[Al manah]

and how many bloody crimes were committed on the territory of the USSR

Абсолютно верно, достаточно вспомнить хотя бы Корюковскую трагедию: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8E%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F

[tralflot1832]

Orban decided to weed the Garden of Eden of the Brothel? No one will exclude Hungary from the EU, otherwise it will be like the USSR, they will disintegrate into principalities. Germany and France will remain in debt, and England will laugh the most across the channel.

[dmi.pris1]

Orban, from his position of pragmatism, sucks two queens. Like that cunning calf. For the Hungarians, he is certainly a good leader. And it’s not bad for us to have an awl in the EU’s ass

[Alexey RA]

Quote: tralflot1832

Germany and France will remain in debt

No, no, no... whoever came out last got the debt.
Therefore, the EU has a win-win move: accept Ukraine and, while Kiev is celebrating, everyone else leaves the EU.

[Mikhail Shamanov]

They can liquidate it, Orban can somehow create a wing group in Europe

[Stormtrooper]

Well, apparently, Orban also considers the uprising of undead Nazis in Budapest a tragedy.
However, nothing surprising.

[rocket757]

Borrell to Orban: No one is keeping Hungary in the EU by force

. What can be stated... the gay union is a kind of democracy, democracy, and gay officials are its guides

[carpenter]

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What can be stated... the gay union is such a democracy

Democracy, when a person is not seen as a person, is no longer democracy.

[AlexVas44]

Earlier, Orban said that Hungary being part of the socialist bloc was a tragedy...

Most likely, the presence of Hungarian troops in the USSR during the Second World War was a tragedy. They were not even taken prisoner for their bestial cruelty towards civilians.

[Semovente7534]

I’m telling you as a citizen of Europe, Borrell is talking nonsense, but Hungary will never be allowed to leave the European Union, the risks for the European Union itself are very high, imagine that first Hungary and then Serbia enter into some kind of agreement, an economic and military alliance with Russia, what will be the consequences? Very high. This is why Borrell pretends to be a democrat. Many European states were even banned from holding referendums on joining the European Union.

[carpenter]

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imagine that first Hungary and then Serbia will enter into some kind of agreement, an economic and military alliance with Russia

Just don’t tell Borrell that, he’ll have a heart attack.

[dmi.pris1]

Or maybe it’s the other way around? Is it worth saying? So that Kondraty... He’s an old eccentric, albeit nonsense. He’s an intellectual mechanic with a motor.

[Escariot]

Quote from: Semovente7534

I’m telling you as a citizen of Europe, Borrell is talking nonsense, but Hungary will never be allowed to leave the European Union, the risks for the European Union itself are very high, imagine that first Hungary and then Serbia enter into some kind of agreement, an economic and military alliance with Russia, what will be the consequences? Very high. This is why Borrell pretends to be a democrat. Many European states were even banned from holding referendums on joining the European Union.

Who won't allow it? EU? They have no leverage over Orban. But ordinary Hungarians definitely won’t allow it. The EU is, first of all, ties with the rest of Europe, and breaking them for Hungary is a sophisticated way of suicide.

[Sergej1972]

Did the UK leave the EU and not die? But Switzerland and Norway have no intention of joining this organization.

[carpenter]

however, the country's current membership of the European Union is a comedy at best.

I see this comedy every day, but I’m already used to what to take from them.
True, Ukrainian flags are hanging, but I haven’t seen Israeli ones.

[faterdom]

No one held Britain either.
And no one keeps Germany and France in the European Union...
But no one keeps the United States in NATO, if the danger of being there outweighs the benefits, they will easily leave and say that AUCUS is now a fashionable feature...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: faterdom

No one held Britain either.

Britain left the EU with US approval. Others will not be allowed.

[Luenkov]

The uprising" in Hungary was based on the remnants of fascism and was financed by London. Materiel.

[kor1vet1974]

Borrell to Orban: No one is keeping Hungary in the EU by force

Oh, all this is lyricism. No one is going to go anywhere. There is no where to go. So that it would be nourishing and warm, but there’s not much desire for free bread.

[rotmistr60]

no one is forcing Hungary to remain in the EU using military force

Borrell, apparently, has tried on the clothes of the European “Uncle Sam” - no one will give a damn if I put him on a chain. And if, for example, Poland, which hinted at this, and Hungary actually leave the EU (I repeat once again: for example), what will Brussels officials do? Will they remain as brave? And will Germany and France, where there are also quiet whispers about such a possibility, follow? Tryndets, especially for European Lilliputians who exist at the expense of the economies of Old Europe.

[ZovSailor]

It seems to me that the truth is in the middle.
No offense to those present here: neither one nor the other shines with the warmth of sympathy for the Russian Federation, but how, every person,
thinks pragmatically, taking into account selfish interests, because each of us,
despite any high or low position, based on natural genes,
thinks first of all about himself, his loved ones, then his people and his
Fatherland, and only then about neighbors outside the Garden of Eden.
There are exceptional altruists and those obsessed with good goals of working for the good
society, but there are shamefully few of them.
Most likely, the barrel of whiskey and the chief gynecologist Geyropa von der have already received proposals from Uncle Syoma through intermediaries to pass the baton in the Garden of Eden
in exchange for a piece of paradise in the Caribbean, Florida or Nice.
Therefore, my conclusion is that both are trying to maintain and strengthen their positions and ambitions,
worthy in the dwarf countries of Geyropa, as well as prepare for future elections,
remembering that nothing lasts forever and neither does your current situation.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Borrell to Orban: No one is keeping Hungary in the EU by force

Bluff of pure water! They will cling and hang on their feet. As they once hung on the feet of Britain.
And here it will be even cooler. Because the exit of one country can be presented as a special case... but the exit of another country is already a system. Which clearly shows how bad things are in the European prison of nations.
So Borrell is bluffing, and very heavily. They won't let you leave. They will blackmail and intimidate with penalties, fines, elimination of preferences, etc.
This is such a charaga that the entrance to it is a ruble, and the exit is two!

[alystan]

But this is definitely not Borrell’s business. Let him take care of his external affairs. Or digging around in his garden...
But even if the question is posed bluntly, we remember very well how long it took and with what difficulties Brexit took place. From which not only the shaved people, but also the EU sheep have not recovered.

[Fitter65]

Borrell said he remembers Budapest in 1956, when Soviet tanks drove through its streets,

It was a late bug fix

On February 13, 1945, the Red Army liberated the capital of Hungary, Budapest, from the Nazi invaders.

But it did not cleanse this country of followers and minions of German Nazism. Many soldiers and commanders of the Red Army did not comply with Vatutin’s verbal order - not to take the Magyars prisoner - we are not Nazis .... So it turned out to be 1956 ...