The President of the People's Republic of China signed a decree on the removal of Li Shangfu from the post of head of the Ministry of Defense

Chinese President Xi Jinping signed a decree according to which Li Shangfu is removed from his post as head of the Chinese Ministry of Defense.

According to China Central Television, the corresponding decree of the President of the People's Republic of China states that, in accordance with the decision made at the sixth session of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress, Li Shangfu is removed from his posts as Minister of National Defense, as well as a member of the State Council of the People's Republic of China. The appointment of a new head of the Chinese Ministry of Defense has not yet been announced.

Li Shangfu's last public appearance was on August 29, when he spoke at the Third China-Africa Peace and Security Forum in Beijing. According to the American edition of the Financial Times, the likely reason for the removal of Li Shangfu from the post of Minister of Defense may have been an investigation against him. However, Chinese foreign and defense officials said they did not have any information about this.

It is also noted that Li Shangfu and his predecessor as head of the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China, Wei Fenghe, were not present at the reception held on October 1 in honor of the main Chinese national holiday - the Founding Day of the People's Republic of China.

Earlier, the Hong Kong edition of the South China Morning Post, citing unnamed sources, reported that the Chinese Ministry of Defense could be headed by the Chief of the Joint Staff of the Central Military Council of China, Liu Zhenli.

Comments

[Man from afar]

Eh, this is what I understand - an effectively working rotation initiated from above. When the top is not afraid to fire those who screw up and imprison those who stole, without even waiting for a reaction from below.

[Amateur]

Eh, this is what I understand - an effectively working rotation initiated from above.

If I had built a fanza and painted it with golden dragons, it would have worked out that way.

[Andrey Dibrov]

Quote: ManFrom Afar

Eh, this is what I understand - an effectively working rotation initiated from above. When the top is not afraid to fire those who screw up and imprison those who stole, without even waiting for a reaction from below.

Um.
What do such rearrangements look like?
"- Winnie, what are you... what a <pi pee pee> Taiwan... we're getting another Tiananmen here..."

[Ivan Ivanov]

It's still not clear what's going on. Li Shangfu was considered by our experts to be a pro-Russian and anti-American hawk, respectively. It’s bad if his dismissal is an attempt to wag his tail in front of the United States on the eve of the visit.

[Andrey Dibrov]

Quote: IvanIvanov

It's still not clear what's going on. Li Shangfu was considered by our experts to be a pro-Russian and anti-American hawk, respectively. It’s bad if his dismissal is an attempt to wag his tail in front of the United States on the eve of the visit.

It’s just that not everyone there has the ura-Chinese potreotism coming out of their ears. Someone fumbles with reality.
We also didn’t evaluate everything on time.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svaYa_8wL8g

[Ivan Ivanov]

Well, of course, reality in the understanding of some citizens = lie down under the States and relax. But a positive result for the “passive” is not at all guaranteed.

[knn54]

“Politics is a fight of bulldogs under the carpet.” (W. Churchill).
And maybe there was an emergency with the nuclear submarine?

[dmi.pris1]

The Chinese do not have untouchables... Something like this.

[alystan]

Which of them actually disappeared for a long time? At first, he never arrived at the planned meeting abroad. The former defense minister missed two important foreign policy meetings. In general, three ministers were already “sick”: Health Ma Xiaowei, Foreign Affairs Qin Gang and Li Shanfu. Like Li Shangfu, former minister Qin Gang is no longer a member of the State Council of the People's Republic of China.

But with us, Gerasimov, unsinkable, sat and still sits, and he deals with everyone he dislikes at once.

[Vladimir M]

But here there are more questions not for Gerasimov, but for his boss Shoigu.

[Factor]

Chinese corruption is punishable. Comrade Xi is not very pleased with how Comrade Putin has surrounded himself with corrupt new boyars and burry new nobles with sidelocks. That’s why China is in no hurry to fraternize with the Kremlin.

[RED_ICE]

China has never fraternized with anyone. They're on their own

[nordscout]

Dear RED_ICE! A very precise remark... It’s a pity that in Russia it is not heard by those who should hear, know, be able to and foresee everything with special care and thoroughness... And we are still trying to “fraternize” with the West, then with the East, , now on the one hand, now on the other.... Although, already, since the time of the wise I.V. Stalin, it was clear and understandable that for them, just as they are for us, we are temporary fellow travelers, nothing more... China is the East, and the East is a delicate matter.... The last real orientalist who understands the East and knows how to he worked with - I.V. Stalin... Everyone after him is “shadows”, with small-town “wants”, but grandiose ambitions and demands for greatness... China needs Russia - as a source of cheap energy, potential territorial acquisitions and “cover from the back” (with North) a Russian nuclear “umbrella” from US strategic nuclear missiles, until their own nuclear group reaches the “calculated - specified power” .... And then we’ll look at our eastern “strategic partner” ... China has lived and lives for thousands of years in the paradigm of its own greatness and self-sufficiency, where there is no place for the philosophy of the West and the philosophy of the Slavs in all its aspects... Behind the Great Wall of China, for the Chinese, there is NOTHING except something alien, unknown, but amenable “Confucian” explanation and possible conquest... And we still rush around with China like we’re carrying a “wrong bag.” Maybe it’s time to “turn on your head”, start thinking, analyzing, drawing conclusions and making far-reaching plans, taking into account the Chinese mentality and our own historical experience... Of course, these are difficult times for Russia, China will also “come in handy” here, but for now , as a temporary situational fellow traveler... Something like this... I tried to look at the situation through the eyes of Comrade Xi..... Perhaps I’m wrong and Comrade Xi “looks” at Russian-Chinese relations from a different “angle”... It’s still time will put it in its place....

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Factor

Chinese corruption is punishable.

Only if the person being punished has deviated too much from the party line. Which, as is known, coincides with the vector of the resultant force from the sum of the forces of the fighting factions.
Simply put, if a faction is weakened, then its members are devoured, raising all the folders filed against them. And if a faction follows more or less in line with the general line, then everything is forgiven.
The same mayor of Guangzhou collected his 13,5 tons of gold and millions of dollars for many years, until suddenly The law enforcement officers did not open their eyes.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Factor

Chinese corruption is punishable.

Judging by the latest statement from Comrade Mr. Xi, that Beijing wants to work with Washington to solve global problems, promote each other's progress and strive for shared prosperity, and also taking into account Li Shanfu’s irreconcilable position towards the West, in this case we are not talking about corruption at all. Although their fight against corruption is more serious, this must be recognized.

[spirit]

on the removal of Li Shangfu from the post of head of the Ministry of Defense

Somewhere an unsinkable “descendant of Subedei” is laughing

[Graz]

I think they had different views with Xi on what to do next with Taiwan, but which of them holds more militant views is a question!

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Graz

I think they had different views with Xi on what to do next with Taiwan, but which of them holds more militant views is a question!

Yes, here is the position that Xi adheres to:

that Beijing wants to work with Washington to solve global problems, promote each other's progress and strive for shared prosperity

Quite an obscene position, I must say. There could well be a conflict on this basis.

[faiver]

The Chinese will figure it out without us

[vladcub]

Americans can guess whatever they want. It is far from certain that the minister was removed because of the investigation.
If they reported this: Taiwan, South Korea, I would believe it more: whatever one may say, they have more information. t. with “over the fence” they looked, but among the Americans: “fried” facts are above all.
There could be a variety of reasons, for example: health, ministers are also sick, conflict with Xi. Or the age is right.
For Americans, these reasons are not interesting, but what if we say that an investigation has been launched. There is a sea of ​​fantasies here: “the budget was being cut,” he wanted to push Xi out, or something even brighter.

[AllBiBek]

Somewhere, the father-in-law of a talented video blogger is crying.
Tears of joy stream from slanted eyes. The joy of being in his current position is not in China.

[alexleony]

Shanfu went. Shoigu got ready.

[FoBoss_VM]

When will our plywood neo-marshal be removed? The deal was through the roof, he stole everything he could. When is the arrest, trial and sentencing?

[Ivan Ivanov]

The conflict in the hands of the PRC could well have happened on other grounds.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: RED_ICE

China has never fraternized with anyone. They're on their own

They are not on their own, but defend their state interests and thus choose partners and allies.
The main threat to China today comes from US hegemony and China is the main enemy of the US today. An alliance with Russia is absolutely necessary for them. Beijing clearly understands this.
The defeat of Russia is a very bad option for China, and an agreement between Russia and the West at the expense of China is the worst option.
So if there is a divide between Russia and China, it can only be due to the fault and initiative of the Russian rulers.