The Hungarian Prime Minister called the EU a “bad parody” of the USSR

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban made a very provocative statement during his speech in the city of Veszprém. At a time when Hungarians remember the anti-Soviet uprising that took place in October-November 1956 and was suppressed by the Red Army, the country's leader decided to compare the USSR with the EU.

At the same time, Orban called the Soviet Union a “tragedy” for the Hungarian people.

We had to dance as Moscow played the pipe

- said the Prime Minister of Hungary.

At the same time, he considers the European Union a “comedy” and a “bad parody” of the USSR.

If Brussels plays the pipe, we dance as we please

- noted the politician.

Obviously, Orban meant anti-Russian sanctions, which Hungary violates with almost impunity, thereby emphasizing the independence of his country’s political course.

Experts in Reuters expressed the opinion that Orban is making his statements as part of the campaign for the upcoming European Parliament elections in 2024.

However, this assumption looks very doubtful, given the anti-European nature of the Hungarian Prime Minister’s statements.

It is worth noting that the Hungarians themselves did not like the statements of their prime minister. Within a few hours, protests against Orban’s policies began in Budapest. People fear that the course of the current head of government will lead to the exclusion of their country from the EU.

Today, the 45th President of the United States praised Viktor Orban, although he misspoke and called him “the leader of Turkey.”

Comments

[ZovSailor]

I have long been trying to understand and unravel the secret of modern Geyropa:
Why are there so few smart and strong precisely in their spirit and the spirit of their ancestors?
politicians in Geyrop, except Orbán and?
The era of the Bismarcks is gone, the Gaulles, even the Churchills, will be reborn
will similar and intelligent homo sapiens ever remain or will remain
Homo erectus with 360 degree rotational politics and liverwurst with pasta
under the chubby sauce ala Johnson and the red push button of Lizzie Tras?

[Irokez]

It’s just that in those days there was no EU, but everything was fine - they were falling.

[bober1982]

Quote: ZovSailor

Why are there so few smart and strong precisely in their spirit and the spirit of their ancestors?
politicians in Geyrop, except Orbán and?

You yourself answered your own question, Orban is focused on the national interests of his country, the Hungarians are simply lucky to have such a person in power.
The EU is the path to the collapse of nation states and the complete collapse of Europe, which is what we are already seeing.

[Plate]

The Hungarians were out of luck. They chose the course they wanted. Do you think the Germans are strongly against what is being done to them? No, I don't think so. If they were against it, they would vote for the AfD, or create other parties aimed at defending national sovereignty. But no... they don’t vote, they don’t create. This means that everything is accepted and understood. Well, their country - their problems - their conscience.

[dump22]

Why are there so few smart and strong precisely in their spirit and the spirit of their ancestors?
politicians in Geyrop, except Orbán and?

Hard times require strong people, and in calm, peaceful times, clowns run into the political arena.
Bismarck came to power when the question arose of unifying Germany through wars (“with iron and blood” as he put it). And when he did this in 20 years and the empire became completely stronger, the new young emperor threw him into the trash heap and took the “weakling” Caprivi as chancellor.
De Gaulle and Churchill came to power during the most severe crises and difficult wars in Europe. But crises passed and they lost power.
Europe lives well, calmly and peacefully, so it can now do without strong leaders.

And Orban, by the way, is also by no means Bismarck or de Gaulle.

[Lev_Russia]

Why in the USSR...??? In my opinion, it looks much more like a bad parody of the States...

[carpenter]

Quote: Lev_Russia

I have long been trying to understand and unravel the secret of modern Geyropa:
Why are there so few smart and strong precisely in their spirit and the spirit of their ancestors?

With modern technologies, a smart, charismatic, but pliable and controlled candidate is calculated, then the media promotes the brand. And now the country is in your hands (well, we understand in whose hands).
Remember how Zelensky was promoted, they aired three seasons of a TV series about him (still online), pseudo-experts, but well trained in the CIA bins, such as Gordon, took over. And after some time, the well-known clown becomes a supervisor for the Ukraine project.
And the same Scholz and Sunak raised on this, and the girl from the Route.
Well, everyone remembers about NIK "Beadon".

[carpenter]

Quote: Lev_Russia

Why in the USSR...??? In my opinion, it looks much more like a bad parody of the States...

I think you can see for yourself by your disadvantages how many defenders of the United States there are for your cartoon.

[osp]

Well, what is successful in the EU, for example, in terms of the military-industrial complex, are joint corporations that develop and produce combat aircraft.
This is how the Tornado was developed, this is how the Eurofighter was developed.
There is a joint venture from 4 countries and each country participates in where it is strong
its science and industry.
Germany, Spain, Great Britain, Italy.
It’s convenient that everyone supplies their own for assembly.

[rotmistr60]

It’s convenient that everyone supplies their own for assembly.

Can you imagine if they scatter back to their “apartments” (and the prerequisites are outlined), and even with hidden anger at each other, will it be convenient then?

[carpenter]

Quote from osp

It’s convenient that everyone supplies their own for assembly.

They will put up what the guys from the USA allow them to put on, and what they don’t allow, they will put up their own there.

[Irokez]

I'm starting to feel scared for Orban. Somehow he boldly expresses his opinion democratically.

[carpenter]

Quote: Irokez

I'm starting to feel scared for Orban.

They won’t kill, but they will frame him well, and then they will remove him, technology allows.

[dump22]

Full quote:
https://news.ru/world/ploho-udavshayasya-parodiya-orban-rasskazal-chto-emu-napominaet-evrosoyuz/

Yes, it happens that history repeats itself. Fortunately, what was a tragedy the first time was a comedy at best the second time. Moscow was a tragedy, Brussels just a modern parody gone wrong. We had to dance as Moscow played the pipe. If Brussels plays the pipe, we dance as we want, and if we don’t want to, then we don’t dance.

[bober1982]

Quote from: dump22

Fortunately, what was a tragedy the first time was, at best, a comedy the second time. Moscow was a tragedy, Brussels is just a modern parody gone wrong

He said it well, but the article turned the ugly retelling on its head.

[rocket757]

The Hungarian Prime Minister called the EU a “bad parody” of the USSR

. With a very big stretch, some things are similar, but there is no such obvious analogy.
Still, everyone goes crazy in their own way!

[osp]

Quote: rotmistr60

It’s convenient that everyone supplies their own for assembly.

Can you imagine if they scatter back to their “apartments” (and the prerequisites are outlined), and even with hidden anger at each other, will it be convenient then?

Thanks to this cooperation, they already have a radar with AFAR on the baby M-346, this is a clone of the Yak-130.
Russia doesn’t have anything like this, not even close - we could lose the market.
Because they will start ordering an Italian more advanced aircraft and not ours without anything “as is”.
And they won’t scatter there; cooperation is usually not about politics. Private companies, including Euroradar.

[KCA]

Dodo, as soon as you write the magic word AFAR in the performance characteristics of an aircraft and it immediately becomes the winner of everything and anything, then in addition to the advantages, a radar with AFAR has no less than minuses, don’t you worry?

[Plate]

In Hungary they still can’t forget 56 or what?

[pettabyte]

We just shouldn’t forget who the Hungarians (and everyone else) were during the War.
Well, not just to interrupt them (although...), but to spread rot and remind them that they are contraceptives - it was necessary to constantly.

[dump22]

They cannot and do not even intend to forget.
Imre Nagy has long been declared a national hero of Hungary, and monuments have been erected to him.
Orbán is also clear in his assessment of 1956:

We will not tolerate anyone speaking in a humiliating manner about the 1956 revolution and its heroes!
(c) Minister Szijjártó to the Russian Ambassador to Hungary in 2016

In 1956, the Hungarian people rebelled against the communist dictatorship; this is a clear, unambiguous fact, not a matter of debate. Any statement to the contrary is false.
(c) Hungarian State Secretary Menczer in 2023

[guest]

The Hungarian Prime Minister called the EU a “bad parody” of the USSR

If only the EU could end up like the USSR as quickly as possible, it would be wonderful.

[opposite28]

It seems that Orban made a subtle hint at some kind of restoration of relations as during the existence of the CMEA. And the fact that the creation of the Soviet Union patch 2.0 is not far off is a well-known fact. SVO continues...

[dump22]

And the fact that the creation of the Soviet Union patch 2.0 is not far off is a well-known fact. SVO continues...

It's probably a "well-known fact" for you. But the commander-in-chief thinks about this completely differently:

https://www.m24.ru/news/vlast/30092022/506941

Putin said there was no desire to restore the USSR

Russia does not seek to restore the USSR, Vladimir Putin said at the ceremony of accepting four new territories into the Russian Federation.

“There is no Soviet Union, there is no past. Yes, and Russia today no longer needs this, we are not striving for this", the president noted.

[Plate]

Has this Soviet Union surrendered to you? This form has shown its inconsistency. The Soviet Union is not needed - the further development of the Russian Federation is needed. Stop looking back already. Half of the Russian population, I think, either have not seen the Soviet Union at all, or do not remember it in any way other than “happy, carefree childhood,” when the political systems are absolutely parallel. So who will check whether the Union is correct? Those who lived and remember? Do you want gerontocracy?

[Dedok]

Orban will end badly with such statements, they are understandable to those who remember the CMEA, and not the USSR - regardless of where they live now

[Ivan Ivanov]

At the same time, Orban called the Soviet Union a “tragedy” for the Hungarian people.

I wonder in what genre, from his point of view, the Hungarian people acted on the side of Hitler? It’s bad that Mr. Putin echoes him, calling the USSR’s military operation against Hitler’s underdogs in 1956 “a big mistake.” This did not need to be done even due to political conditions. Sometimes it's better to remain silent.

[Cicerist98]

"...given the anti-European nature of the Hungarian Prime Minister's statements...."

Orbán's statements are ANTI-EU, not "anti-European". Don't confuse the bureaucratic and administrative structure of today called the "European Union", created artificially a few decades ago, with Europe and historic European civilization, of which Orbán is an ardent lover and a true representative.

[alystan]

At the same time, Orban called the Soviet Union a “tragedy” for the Hungarian people.

Is the current life of Hungarians very pleasing?

We had to dance as Moscow played the pipe

People like Orban didn’t want to dance to someone else’s tune then, and they don’t want to now.
It is not clear what they wanted/want then?

Although I remember a couple of people from Ongria, both turned out to be Jews (but this is probably pure coincidence) - Nicolas Sarkozy and George Soros, born Nicolas Paul Stéphane Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa and Schwartz György. They already knew exactly what they wanted.
But Orban did not like them either. Especially the second one.

[dump22]

Is the current life of Hungarians very pleasing?

Well, probably still stronger than before in the socialist camp.
In Hungary, communists are completely unpopular. The Hungarian Communist Party received literally several thousand votes in all elections and never entered parliament after 1990.

Therefore, by the way, practically no one in Hungary protested against the “decommunization law” that Orban passed back in 2013.

[Byurer]

And he does all this against the backdrop of the complete absence of his own national industry. And the Hungarians' refrigerator will defeat Orban

[Bayun]

Orbán is right. The Union is a Bolshevik international, the EU is Menshevik, the USA is Trotskyist. "Three projections of the ball", so to speak...

The PRC, while the smartest, have realized that communist power DOES NOT contradict the capitalist economy with profit.

And Russia needs to realize that the 3 forms of power do not contradict, but complement each other. Types of economies, non-profit, socialist and capitalist - too. We need to stop looking for the non-existent “Russian idea”, and start living, living and making good. This “fairy-tale” formula contains a simple and self-evident Russian Meaning!