PAK FA is preparing for the state exam

State tests of five fifth-generation fighters (PAK FA) will begin on the basis of the Air Force test center in Akhtubinsk in March 2013.

According to the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Lieutenant General Viktor Bondarev, the PAK FA aircraft (promising aviation front-line aviation complex) successfully complete the flight test program. Three copies are being tested in Zhukovsky near Moscow, the fourth prototype is at OJSC KnAAPO, and the fifth is now at the exit, it is being accepted. In March, these five aircraft will arrive in Akhtubinsk, where their state tests will begin.

All subsequent cars will be sent to the base of the test center of the Air Force directly from the factory. By the end of 2013, eight T-50 will be accepted here. Tests of promising fighters will be completed within 2 – 2,5 of the year. In 2015 - the beginning of 2016-th construction of the T-50 will be serial, they will begin to arrive in the air force combat units. The program identifies all the necessary checks on the characteristics of the aircraft and its systems, airborne equipment complexes and aircraft armament. Development work on the development of a new-generation strategic bomber-rocket carrier (a promising long-range aviation complex - PAK DA) will be completed by the 2017 – 2018 years. The creation of the PAK DA was preceded by many studies. The plane will have to ensure the strategic security of the country for many years, so there should be no mistakes. Before 2017 – 2018, the development of the newest bomber will be completed and it will be prepared for mass production. The Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force noted that much attention was paid to its low visibility and the use of new types of aviation weapons of various classes.

Comments

[neri73-r]

Time, time, tsigel ai liu liu! Enemies are running out, war is on the nose.

[vadimus]

We would have flocks of these birds, so that the sky was peaceful ...

[Big lexey]

Golden rule: if you want peace - get ready for war!

[Jin]

All zer buzz, of course! Beauties! It’s a pity with the new bomber, we are lagging behind the amers very much in time, they are already flying at the full and for a long time ... but the main thing is that we are moving in the right direction.

[Hoist]

Quote: Jin

It’s a pity with the new bomber, we are lagging behind the amers much in time, they are already flying at full speed and what a long time ago ...

But do not tell me on which such a bomb the amers fly a long time ago, from which ours have long lagged behind? I hear something for the first time ...

[domokl]

Everything is according to plan ... Ours have already gone for testing, but where are the Americans there? How do they answer the question Where in Russian? .. In ... where ...

[igor36]

In vain you are so rude, their Raptor has been flying for a long time (190 pcs) and the F-35 is already flying 54 pieces. Ours may be better, but it is also necessary to take into account the economic possibilities.

[crazyrom]

Quote: igor36

The raptor has been flying for a long time

Of course it flies, only below 7km, and even for pilots it is oxygen starvation or poisoning with obscure gases. Yes, and gets off with any of our Su-30 and Su-35, but nothing.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: domokl

Everything is according to plan ... Ours have already gone for testing, but where are the Americans there?

Sasha, amer Fu 35 has already formed several iskadriliy. So we are behind

Only I did not understand 8 planes in 2013, is it new to go along with those that are already there? Who is in the know?

[Jin]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Who is in the know?

Hi, Sasha, as I understand it all together

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Jin

, as I understand it all together

Quote: Jin

, as I understand it all together

Hi Zhenya, well, it’s not clear here. You need to wait for someone who knows. Sergey VAF can be in the know.

[VAF]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Well, here it’s not clear

You think absolutely correctly. only now, after 50% of the volume of flight design tests, "real" problems "have come up" (which, of course, are promptly solved. but ... the introduction of design changes invariably entails changes in the test program and the appointment of additional types of work and tests!

For example (I won’t. I can get on the head ), but here are too explicit and obvious that you can’t hide ......

Here is a photo of the triple (on 1-ke and 2-ke as well) - pay attention to the center section ... correctly .. composite

But 4 ... center section ???? right ...... "metallic

[Sergh]

Quote: vaf

But 4 ... center section ???? right ...... "metallic

There is such a small thing. I think that the engineers were ready for this, and even for other quirks, there will be many more.

In the area of ​​the rear wheels, aluminum in the ground.
T-50-4

Specially selected for your comparison. But the cap is already without longitudinal binding.

[Sergh]

On the T-50-3, a longitudinally bound fanar.

Seryoga, and your photo is also T-50-3 PAK Fy.

[PLO]

Only I did not understand 8 planes in 2013, is it new to go along with those that are already there? Who is in the know?

total, i.e. 4 more want to build this year

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: olp

total, i.e. 4 more want to build this year

Perhaps there is not enough capacity to see. T 50, export aircraft and + here on order for Su 35. All this is done by one plant, and there’s also a Superjet

MOSCOW, January 10. (ARMS-TASS). In 2013, the Russian Air Force will receive 12 multifunctional Su-35S fighters as part of the state defense order (GOZ). The correspondent of ARMS-TASS was informed about this in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

[VAF]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

8 planes in 2013 is it new to go along with those that are already there? Who is in the know?

Sanya, hello! Another "murzilka" in the style of "ala Bondarev"!

At the moment, there is only one car equipped with a full set of avionics (PrNk and SUV), one more (five) are going to "roll out" by the spring, and there are 6.7 and 8 ka. but in different stages of "readiness", most likely, 6-ku will be done by the end of the year.
How is Bondarev going to conduct Gosy using 1-ki.2-ki and 3-ki ?????? Gos prototypes ????
Without any equipment?
Inertialians only stand on 4-ke, well, on 3-ke. Elbrus only on 4-ke ....

In general, everything resembles again uryaya and "assault" !!!

To cheer up the calendar. You can on the screen saver !!!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: vaf

How is Bondarev going to conduct Gosy using 1-ki.2-ki and 3-ki ?????? Gos prototypes?

Hi Sergey, and that it’s impossible to send them to the factory and, in fact, in this form they are just an airplane for a ride.?

[FID]

Hello colleagues! No, not just a ride. Aerodynamics, avionics, and mass dimensions fly around. In fact, these are tests of the Chief Designer, but sometimes they are combined with the Customer. But if Serge is right, then this is purely the Chief Designer.

[VAF]

Quote: SSI

tests of the Chief Designer, but sometimes they are combined with the Customer

Seryoga.Hi .... I don’t remember something in my memory .... "combined"
for "citizens" yes, but what would ... for "warriors" ???
They dragged Gosy to the army into the same two stages A and B .. this is yes ... almost always and everywhere!

something 4-ki picture ... "otkokali" in the top comment

[FID]

Yes, I was just fantasizing. The military has always been separate. It's just that they are driving and driving with the T-50 ... It is incomprehensible to me, incomprehensible.

[VAF]

Quote: SSI

It's just that they are driving and driving with the T-50 ... It is incomprehensible to me, incomprehensible.

You said that very softly, +!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: SSI

But if Serge is right, then this is purely the Chief Designer.

Hi Sergey, well, let it be so. But in the case of a great schucher, is it possible to put at least some weapons on them?

[FID]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Hi Sergey, well, let it be so. But in the case of a great schucher, is it possible to put at least some weapons on them?

Hello Sasha! It is unlikely. Do bombs hang with a forced reset.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: SSI

Do bombs hang with a forced reset.

I see. Thanks.
Sergey VAF, is it possible to put 4 missiles on XNUMX cu so that it would become a full-fledged combat unit?

[VAF]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

but in the case of a great sheer can they, at least some kind of weapons to put?

Well, in the case of a "great nix", then you can "try" on 4-ku, but at 3-ku .... only weight and size models or ..... as Seryoga says ...... hang and method ... "two hoods" .... unhook

[VAF]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

and that it is impossible to send them to the factory

No, Sasha, since each machine is created for a specific stage of testing, and even more so at the stage of the Chief Designer.
Therefore, these prototypes differ significantly from each other in layout and even aerodynamic shape!
And all the first prototypes usually remain in LII, as Seryoga correctly said - tests continue "the entire flight life" of the aircraft!

[Apollo]

T-50 performance characteristics

[Retx]

One nuance, the maximum range of the T-50 a couple of thousand kilometers more

[Sergh]

Quote: RETX

the maximum range of the T-50 for a couple of thousand kilometers more

Yes, the picture is already a little old, it's time to upgrade it too! Lag behind Apollo!

[Apollo]

Quote: Sergh

Yes, the picture is already a little old, it's time to upgrade it too! Lag behind Apollo!

Greetings Sergey! Maybe I won’t argue, there are enough professionals in this field at the forum. But I compensate for my cant, one more good IMF which, although it is not directly related to this topic, but it has to do with Russian military aviation!

Three new helicopters appear in the Russian Air Force

MOSCOW, 10 January. The Air Force of the Russian Federation received three new Mi-8AMTSh transport and assault helicopters. This was announced today to journalists by the official representative of the press service and information department of the Russian Ministry of Defense for the Air Force, Lt. Col. Vladimir Deryabin.
He noted that the Mi-8AMTSh helicopters followed the Ulan-Ude - Klin route on their own, breaking over 5 thousands of kilometers and making intermediate landings at the air forces for refueling and rest of the crew.
Earlier, Deryabin said that the Russian Air Force resumed flights according to the combat training plan. He added that in 2013, with the participation of air force crews, together with other types and arms of the RF Armed Forces, more than 300 various exercises were planned, including over 30 with combat use.

Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/01/10/1079781.html

[atomic]

This is what "realism" is - the Air Force Chief says: "great attention is paid to its low visibility", and the Americans do not have any appellations on their aircraft; "Invisible." So they are promoting all their technique.

[Jin]

Quote: atomic

So they are promoting all their equipment.

I agree, those are still starballs ... but! In doing so, they make competent marketing moves, lobbying the arms market, so to speak ...

[zanoza]

I will quote:
"... It remains only to slightly fantasize about the future development of American military aircraft, the line of which will look, perhaps, as follows:
5th generation - invisibility (invisible not only to radars, but also to all wars in the world that the Yankees unleashed);
6th generation - inaudible (data not announced, as the aircraft is completely inaudible);
7th generation - nichrenalka (a very cool thing, the developers themselves are afraid to even approach it, so as not to accidentally get it);
8th generation - hell (for such a machine, there are no conflicts of this magnitude in the observable Universe of a scale where it could be applied);
9th generation - non-flying (It includes signs of all previous generations of cars, but it is so scary and dangerous that there is no reason to fly it, in principle, and therefore does not need to fly).

And we, Russians, will catch up, as has happened more than once.

KB "Su", "MiG" and "Yak" now have everything for this. Do not forget about narrow-cut combat aircraft, well-tested by time .... "

[alexng]

Quote: zanoza

The 5 generation is invisible (invisible not only for radar, but also for all the wars in the world that have unleashed the Yankees);

You forgot one important detail that is invisible only to American and NATO radars, such as the naked king from a fairy tale.

[zanoza]

Correctly and "subtly" noted in the second part in parentheses: ..but for all the wars in the world that the Yankees unleashed ... Didn't notice their "invisibility".

[Yuri11076]

The good news is that a couple of years are left before delivery to the Air Force ...

[Anton]

The main thing is that the Air Force would be equipped with them in the required number.

[SmacXnumx]

A beautiful bird is already breathtaking !!!!

[ilichstar]

late ..... 10 years late !! amers are about to begin testing the 6th generation ...

[logic]

amers have always been able to PR, and ours to build excellent aircraft

[Kair501]

Well, we’ll see the 6th generation in the 30s, and so the plane turns out to be excellent and fit into the deadlines (I remember many doubted the timing here), we hope that the armament will rise in time and in large quantities

[Jin]

Kair501,

To be in the subject, we just need the same powerful economic leap as in China, otherwise we will catch up and catch up with the "framework" and "bar"

[avt]

We must hurry slowly! That's why the tests, the more "holes" come out now, the less in the ranks. Have patience and let people work.

[Slevinst]

I would like to see the pack so that its external image is what

[zanoza]

Here in this section PAK FA (T-50)

[zanoza]

What have the guys from the Sukhoi Design Bureau "heaped up"?

[toguns]

in fact, this was to be expected, but we are not proud and we will wait, the main thing is that the Su-35s and Su-30 cm arrive at the Air Force on time, while the Pak-Fa is preparing for the series and undergoes all kinds of tests.

[Gray-haired71]

I myself live not far from TsAGI and I can confirm that the PAK FA is being driven to the fullest ...

[zanoza]

Here they are - new air opponents ....

[Delink]

Our looks much nicer.

[Sergh]

Quote: Delink

Our looks much nicer.

Amer here looks like an iron, a little greasy.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

It was necessary to eat less hamburgers !!!

[Anton]

)))) That's for sure. Or maybe it's a hamburger bearer?)

[123dv]

The concept of over-maneuverability does not sound there ....

[ikrut]

Quote: Delink

Our looks much nicer.

Yeah. Ours is more "fit". And some kind of bourgeoisie is slightly pregnant, or something ... Or a subconscious child of fast food ... :)))

[Forest]

Stop panicking late, late. It is better to remember what the Americans used in Libya - the old F-16 and F-15 and not one F-22 and 35 - it is terrible and expensive to lose a plane for 250 million (min.). So, that another 4 ++ will be relevant for a long time until the price for aircraft of the 5th generation is space.

[Jin]

Quote: Forest

Stop panicking late, late. It is better to remember what the Americans used in Libya - the old F-16 and F-15 and not one F-22 and 35 - it is terrible and expensive to lose a plane for 250 million (min.). So, that another 4 ++ will be relevant for a long time until the price for aircraft of the 5th generation is space.

And against whom, or rather, what was it in Libya to use these expensive aircraft? You are absolutely right, 4 ++ perfectly coped with the problems there. Just until our 5-rock park reaches the size of Amerovsky, if we slow down, it will exceed our number and, I think, by many units. Plus, the experience gained during the operation, which will allow us to reach a higher level and launch the 6th generation ... and will we catch up again and make up for it forever?

[Forest]

Libya had air defense and until it was suppressed, NATO was afraid to fly. .Vot and would advertise their "invisible" (which are still visible) .And suppressed the air defense of the old 4th generation Rafal with Typhoon. The 5th generation is a dubious advantage at a greatly overpriced, even for operation. And tell us where in real conditions this "miracle" (5th generation F22 and 35) was used (except for salons)? )

[Anton]

After Yugoslavia, I think they began to regret when they lost the invisibility invisible to their radars)

[Forest]

The paradox is that at the moment of an attack, when opening hatches (for launching missiles), they become ordinary "visible")

[ayyildiz]

Handsome fighter, what can I say

[SHOGUN]

Quote: Jin

And against whom, or rather, what was it in Libya to use these expensive aircraft? You are absolutely right, 4 ++ perfectly coped with the problems there. Just until our 5-rock park reaches the size of Amerovsky, if we slow down, it will exceed our number and, I think, by many units. Plus, the experience gained during the operation, which will allow us to reach a higher level and launch the 6th generation ... and will we catch up again and make up for it forever?

Yes, even against anyone! F22 does not know how to work on the ground. A pair of uncontrollable bombs. And F35 is still very crude to take it, but into battle.