PAK FA is preparing for the state exam

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State tests of five fifth-generation fighters (PAK FA) will begin on the basis of the Air Force test center in Akhtubinsk in March 2013.

According to the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Lieutenant General Viktor Bondarev, the PAK FA aircraft (promising aviation front-line aviation complex) successfully complete the flight test program. Three copies are being tested in Zhukovsky near Moscow, the fourth prototype is at OJSC KnAAPO, and the fifth is now at the exit, it is being accepted. In March, these five aircraft will arrive in Akhtubinsk, where their state tests will begin.

All subsequent cars will be sent to the base of the test center of the Air Force directly from the factory. By the end of 2013, eight T-50 will be accepted here. Tests of promising fighters will be completed within 2 – 2,5 of the year. In 2015 - the beginning of 2016-th construction of the T-50 will be serial, they will begin to arrive in the air force combat units. The program identifies all the necessary checks on the characteristics of the aircraft and its systems, airborne equipment complexes and aircraft armament. Development work on the development of a new-generation strategic bomber-rocket carrier (a promising long-range aviation complex - PAK DA) will be completed by the 2017 – 2018 years. The creation of the PAK DA was preceded by many studies. The plane will have to ensure the strategic security of the country for many years, so there should be no mistakes. Before 2017 – 2018, the development of the newest bomber will be completed and it will be prepared for mass production. The Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force noted that much attention was paid to its low visibility and the use of new types of aviation weapons of various classes.
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  1. +3
    10 January 2013 11: 31
    Time, time, tsigel ai liu liu! Enemies are running out, war is on the nose.
    1. vadimus
      +2
      10 January 2013 11: 34
      We would have flocks of these birds, so that the sky was peaceful ...
      1. +2
        10 January 2013 11: 46
        Golden rule: if you want peace - get ready for war!
      2. Jin
        +2
        10 January 2013 12: 02
        All zer buzz, of course! Beauties! It’s a pity with the new bomber, we are lagging behind the amers very much in time, they are already flying at the full and for a long time ... but the main thing is that we are moving in the right direction.
        1. +1
          11 January 2013 03: 09
          Quote: Jin
          It’s a pity with the new bomber, we are lagging behind the amers much in time, they are already flying at full speed and what a long time ago ...

          But do not tell me on which such a bomb the amers fly a long time ago, from which ours have long lagged behind? I hear something for the first time ...
    2. +1
      10 January 2013 11: 44
      Everything is according to plan ... Ours have already gone for testing, but where are the Americans there? How do they answer the question Where in Russian? .. In ... where ... laughing
      1. +4
        10 January 2013 11: 57
        In vain you are so rude, their Raptor has been flying for a long time (190 pcs) and the F-35 is already flying 54 pieces. Ours may be better, but it is also necessary to take into account the economic possibilities.
        1. +1
          10 January 2013 21: 09
          Quote: igor36
          The raptor has been flying for a long time

          Of course it flies, only below 7km, and even for pilots it is oxygen starvation or poisoning with obscure gases. Yes, and gets off with any of our Su-30 and Su-35, but nothing.
      2. +2
        10 January 2013 12: 24
        Quote: domokl
        Everything is according to plan ... Ours have already gone for testing, but where are the Americans there?

        Sasha, amer Fu 35 has already formed several iskadriliy. So we are behind hi

        Only I did not understand 8 planes in 2013, is it new to go along with those that are already there? Who is in the know?
        1. Jin
          +2
          10 January 2013 12: 26
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Who is in the know?


          Hi, Sasha, as I understand it all together
          1. +2
            10 January 2013 12: 40
            Quote: Jin
            , as I understand it all together

            Quote: Jin
            , as I understand it all together

            Hi Zhenya, well, it’s not clear here. You need to wait for someone who knows. Sergey VAF can be in the know.
            1. VAF
              VAF
              +6
              10 January 2013 15: 06
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well, here it’s not clear


              You think absolutely correctly. only now, after 50% of the volume of flight design tests, "real" problems "have come up" (which, of course, are promptly solved. but ... the introduction of design changes invariably entails changes in the test program and the appointment of additional types of work and tests!

              For example (I won’t. I can get on the head bully ), but here are too explicit and obvious that you can’t hide ...... wink

              Here is a photo of the triple (on 1-ke and 2-ke as well) - pay attention to the center section ... correctly .. composite



              But 4 ... center section ???? right ...... "metallic
              1. Sergh
                0
                10 January 2013 21: 24
                Quote: vaf
                But 4 ... center section ???? right ...... "metallic

                There is such a small thing. I think that the engineers were ready for this, and even for other quirks, there will be many more.

                In the area of ​​the rear wheels, aluminum in the ground.
                T-50-4



                Specially selected for your comparison. But the cap is already without longitudinal binding.



                1. Sergh
                  0
                  10 January 2013 21: 56
                  On the T-50-3, a longitudinally bound fanar.



                  Seryoga, and your photo is also T-50-3 PAK Fy.
        2. PLO
          0
          10 January 2013 13: 02
          Only I did not understand 8 planes in 2013, is it new to go along with those that are already there? Who is in the know?

          total, i.e. 4 more want to build this year
          1. +2
            10 January 2013 14: 09
            Quote: olp
            total, i.e. 4 more want to build this year

            Perhaps there is not enough capacity to see. T 50, export aircraft and + here on order for Su 35. All this is done by one plant, and there’s also a Superjet hi

            MOSCOW, January 10. (ARMS-TASS). In 2013, the Russian Air Force will receive 12 multifunctional Su-35S fighters as part of the state defense order (GOZ). The correspondent of ARMS-TASS was informed about this in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
        3. VAF
          VAF
          +4
          10 January 2013 14: 41
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          8 planes in 2013 is it new to go along with those that are already there? Who is in the know?


          Sanya, hello! Another "murzilka" in the style of "ala Bondarev"!

          At the moment, there is only one car equipped with a full set of avionics (PrNk and SUV), one more (five) are going to "roll out" by the spring, and there are 6.7 and 8 ka. but in different stages of "readiness", most likely, 6-ku will be done by the end of the year.
          How is Bondarev going to conduct Gosy using 1-ki.2-ki and 3-ki ?????? Gos prototypes ????
          Without any equipment?
          Inertialians only stand on 4-ke, well, on 3-ke. Elbrus only on 4-ke ....

          In general, everything resembles again uryaya and "assault" !!!

          To cheer up the calendar. You can on the screen saver !!! wink

          1. +3
            10 January 2013 15: 12
            Quote: vaf
            How is Bondarev going to conduct Gosy using 1-ki.2-ki and 3-ki ?????? Gos prototypes?

            Hi Sergey, and that it’s impossible to send them to the factory and, in fact, in this form they are just an airplane for a ride.?
            1. FID
              +4
              10 January 2013 15: 53
              Hello colleagues! No, not just a ride. Aerodynamics, avionics, and mass dimensions fly around. In fact, these are tests of the Chief Designer, but sometimes they are combined with the Customer. But if Serge is right, then this is purely the Chief Designer.
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +3
                10 January 2013 16: 00
                Quote: SSI
                tests of the Chief Designer, but sometimes they are combined with the Customer


                Seryoga.Hi .... I don’t remember something in my memory .... "combined" recourse
                for "citizens" yes, but what would ... for "warriors" ??? request
                They dragged Gosy to the army into the same two stages A and B .. this is yes ... almost always and everywhere!

                something 4-ki picture ... "otkokali" in the top comment bully

                1. FID
                  +3
                  10 January 2013 16: 06
                  Yes, I was just fantasizing. The military has always been separate. It's just that they are driving and driving with the T-50 ... It is incomprehensible to me, incomprehensible.
                  1. VAF
                    VAF
                    +1
                    10 January 2013 16: 25
                    Quote: SSI
                    It's just that they are driving and driving with the T-50 ... It is incomprehensible to me, incomprehensible.


                    You said that very softly, +! wassat

              2. +3
                10 January 2013 16: 12
                Quote: SSI
                But if Serge is right, then this is purely the Chief Designer.

                Hi Sergey, well, let it be so. But in the case of a great schucher, is it possible to put at least some weapons on them?
                1. FID
                  +3
                  10 January 2013 16: 15
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Hi Sergey, well, let it be so. But in the case of a great schucher, is it possible to put at least some weapons on them?

                  Hello Sasha! It is unlikely. Do bombs hang with a forced reset.
                  1. +1
                    10 January 2013 16: 30
                    Quote: SSI
                    Do bombs hang with a forced reset.

                    I see. Thanks.
                    Sergey VAF, is it possible to put 4 missiles on XNUMX cu so that it would become a full-fledged combat unit?
                2. VAF
                  VAF
                  +4
                  10 January 2013 16: 31
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  but in the case of a great sheer can they, at least some kind of weapons to put?


                  Well, in the case of a "great nix", then you can "try" on 4-ku, but at 3-ku .... only weight and size models or ..... as Seryoga says ...... hang and method ... "two hoods" .... unhook wassat

            2. VAF
              VAF
              +2
              10 January 2013 16: 06
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              and that it is impossible to send them to the factory


              No, Sasha, since each machine is created for a specific stage of testing, and even more so at the stage of the Chief Designer.
              Therefore, these prototypes differ significantly from each other in layout and even aerodynamic shape!
              And all the first prototypes usually remain in LII, as Seryoga correctly said - tests continue "the entire flight life" of the aircraft!

  2. +6
    10 January 2013 11: 41
    T-50 performance characteristics
    1. +3
      10 January 2013 11: 58
      One nuance, the maximum range of the T-50 a couple of thousand kilometers more wink
      1. Sergh
        +3
        10 January 2013 14: 00
        Quote: RETX
        the maximum range of the T-50 for a couple of thousand kilometers more

        Yes, the picture is already a little old, it's time to upgrade it too! Lag behind Apollo!
        1. +4
          10 January 2013 18: 17
          Quote: Sergh
          Yes, the picture is already a little old, it's time to upgrade it too! Lag behind Apollo!



          Greetings Sergey! hi Maybe I won’t argue, there are enough professionals in this field at the forum. But I compensate for my cant, one more good IMF which, although it is not directly related to this topic, but it has to do with Russian military aviation!

          Three new helicopters appear in the Russian Air Force

          MOSCOW, 10 January. The Air Force of the Russian Federation received three new Mi-8AMTSh transport and assault helicopters. This was announced today to journalists by the official representative of the press service and information department of the Russian Ministry of Defense for the Air Force, Lt. Col. Vladimir Deryabin.
          He noted that the Mi-8AMTSh helicopters followed the Ulan-Ude - Klin route on their own, breaking over 5 thousands of kilometers and making intermediate landings at the air forces for refueling and rest of the crew.
          Earlier, Deryabin said that the Russian Air Force resumed flights according to the combat training plan. He added that in 2013, with the participation of air force crews, together with other types and arms of the RF Armed Forces, more than 300 various exercises were planned, including over 30 with combat use.

          Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/01/10/1079781.html
  3. atomic
    +2
    10 January 2013 11: 54
    This is what "realism" is - the Air Force Chief says: "great attention is paid to its low visibility", and the Americans do not have any appellations on their aircraft; "Invisible." So they are promoting all their technique.
    1. Jin
      +1
      10 January 2013 12: 28
      Quote: atomic
      So they are promoting all their equipment.


      I agree, those are still starballs ... but! In doing so, they make competent marketing moves, lobbying the arms market, so to speak ...
    2. +5
      10 January 2013 13: 21
      I will quote:
      "... It remains only to slightly fantasize about the future development of American military aircraft, the line of which will look, perhaps, as follows:
      5th generation - invisibility (invisible not only to radars, but also to all wars in the world that the Yankees unleashed);
      6th generation - inaudible (data not announced, as the aircraft is completely inaudible);
      7th generation - nichrenalka (a very cool thing, the developers themselves are afraid to even approach it, so as not to accidentally get it);
      8th generation - hell (for such a machine, there are no conflicts of this magnitude in the observable Universe of a scale where it could be applied);
      9th generation - non-flying (It includes signs of all previous generations of cars, but it is so scary and dangerous that there is no reason to fly it, in principle, and therefore does not need to fly).

      And we, Russians, will catch up, as has happened more than once.

      KB "Su", "MiG" and "Yak" now have everything for this. Do not forget about narrow-cut combat aircraft, well-tested by time .... " lol
      1. +3
        10 January 2013 13: 59
        Quote: zanoza
        The 5 generation is invisible (invisible not only for radar, but also for all the wars in the world that have unleashed the Yankees);


        You forgot one important detail that is invisible only to American and NATO radars, such as the naked king from a fairy tale.
        1. +2
          10 January 2013 14: 17
          Correctly and "subtly" noted in the second part in parentheses: ..but for all the wars in the world that the Yankees unleashed laughing ... Didn't notice their "invisibility".
  4. +1
    10 January 2013 11: 55
    The good news is that a couple of years are left before delivery to the Air Force ...
    1. Anton
      +1
      11 January 2013 03: 29
      The main thing is that the Air Force would be equipped with them in the required number.
  5. +1
    10 January 2013 11: 56
    A beautiful bird is already breathtaking !!!!
  6. 0
    10 January 2013 11: 57
    late ..... 10 years late !! amers are about to begin testing the 6th generation ...
  7. logic
    +4
    10 January 2013 11: 58
    amers have always been able to PR, and ours to build excellent aircraft
  8. 0
    10 January 2013 12: 09
    Well, we’ll see the 6th generation in the 30s, and so the plane turns out to be excellent and fit into the deadlines (I remember many doubted the timing here), we hope that the armament will rise in time and in large quantities
    1. Jin
      +2
      10 January 2013 12: 31
      Kair501,

      To be in the subject, we just need the same powerful economic leap as in China, otherwise we will catch up and catch up with the "framework" and "bar"
  9. avt
    +2
    10 January 2013 12: 25
    We must hurry slowly! That's why the tests, the more "holes" come out now, the less in the ranks. Have patience and let people work.
  10. 0
    10 January 2013 12: 34
    I would like to see the pack so that its external image is what
    1. +1
      10 January 2013 13: 10
      Here in this section PAK FA (T-50)
  11. +3
    10 January 2013 13: 01
    What have the guys from the Sukhoi Design Bureau "heaped up"?
  12. toguns
    +2
    10 January 2013 13: 06
    wassat in fact, this was to be expected, but we are not proud and we will wait, the main thing is that the Su-35s and Su-30 cm arrive at the Air Force on time, while the Pak-Fa is preparing for the series and undergoes all kinds of tests.
  13. Gray-haired71
    +3
    10 January 2013 13: 25
    I myself live not far from TsAGI and I can confirm that the PAK FA is being driven to the fullest ... smile
  14. +7
    10 January 2013 13: 25
    Here they are - new air opponents ....
    1. +1
      10 January 2013 13: 52
      Our looks much nicer.
      1. Sergh
        +3
        10 January 2013 14: 07
        Quote: Delink
        Our looks much nicer.

        Amer here looks like an iron, a little greasy.
        1. +2
          10 January 2013 15: 42
          It was necessary to eat less hamburgers !!! laughing
          1. Anton
            +1
            11 January 2013 03: 32
            )))) That's for sure. Or maybe it's a hamburger bearer?)
        2. +1
          11 January 2013 00: 06
          The concept of over-maneuverability does not sound there ....
      2. +1
        23 January 2013 21: 35
        Quote: Delink
        Our looks much nicer.

        Yeah. Ours is more "fit". And some kind of bourgeoisie is slightly pregnant, or something ... Or a subconscious child of fast food ... :)))
  15. +1
    10 January 2013 14: 38
    Stop panicking late, late. It is better to remember what the Americans used in Libya - the old F-16 and F-15 and not one F-22 and 35 - it is terrible and expensive to lose a plane for 250 million (min.). So, that another 4 ++ will be relevant for a long time until the price for aircraft of the 5th generation is space.
    1. Jin
      +3
      10 January 2013 16: 14
      Quote: Forest
      Stop panicking late, late. It is better to remember what the Americans used in Libya - the old F-16 and F-15 and not one F-22 and 35 - it is terrible and expensive to lose a plane for 250 million (min.). So, that another 4 ++ will be relevant for a long time until the price for aircraft of the 5th generation is space.


      And against whom, or rather, what was it in Libya to use these expensive aircraft? You are absolutely right, 4 ++ perfectly coped with the problems there. Just until our 5-rock park reaches the size of Amerovsky, if we slow down, it will exceed our number and, I think, by many units. Plus, the experience gained during the operation, which will allow us to reach a higher level and launch the 6th generation ... and will we catch up again and make up for it forever?
      1. 0
        11 January 2013 08: 54
        Libya had air defense and until it was suppressed, NATO was afraid to fly. .Vot and would advertise their "invisible" (which are still visible) .And suppressed the air defense of the old 4th generation Rafal with Typhoon. The 5th generation is a dubious advantage at a greatly overpriced, even for operation. And tell us where in real conditions this "miracle" (5th generation F22 and 35) was used (except for salons)? )
    2. Anton
      +2
      11 January 2013 03: 33
      After Yugoslavia, I think they began to regret when they lost the invisibility invisible to their radars)
      1. 0
        11 January 2013 08: 57
        The paradox is that at the moment of an attack, when opening hatches (for launching missiles), they become ordinary "visible")
  16. +2
    10 January 2013 18: 28
    Handsome fighter, what can I say
  17. SHOGUN
    0
    4 February 2013 18: 10
    Quote: Jin
    And against whom, or rather, what was it in Libya to use these expensive aircraft? You are absolutely right, 4 ++ perfectly coped with the problems there. Just until our 5-rock park reaches the size of Amerovsky, if we slow down, it will exceed our number and, I think, by many units. Plus, the experience gained during the operation, which will allow us to reach a higher level and launch the 6th generation ... and will we catch up again and make up for it forever?


    Yes, even against anyone! F22 does not know how to work on the ground. A pair of uncontrollable bombs. And F35 is still very crude to take it, but into battle.

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