Three MiG-29 fighters and a Su-24 front-line bomber of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were shot down by Russian air defense in a day - Ministry of Defense

The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to lose combat Aviation, if over the past day ours destroyed five Ukrainian flying machines, then this day four more. Moreover, in all cases the Russian air defense did its best.

According to a new report from the Ministry of Defense, Russian air defense shot down three MiG-29 fighters and one Su-24 front-line bomber. The fighters were shot down in the Blagodatnoye, Lozovoye districts of the Dnepropetrovsk and Chuguev regions of the Kharkov region. But our bomber was shot down northwest of Donetsk, apparently while trying to attack our positions.

Thus, in two days, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost 9 pieces of aircraft: one Mi-8 helicopter, three Su-24 front-line bombers and five MiG-29 fighters. By the way, on Friday, October 20, the Ministry of Defense reported that 12 Ukrainian Armed Forces aircraft had been shot down in a week, of which: 10 Mig-29 and two Su-25 attack aircraft, as well as two Mi-8 helicopters.

In addition, ours hit the Starokonstantinov airfield in the Khmelnitsky region, destroying a warehouse with aircraft weapons, and in the area of ​​​​the village of Podliman, Kharkov region, the communications center of the 66th mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was hit. Ammunition depots were also hit 4-1 tank brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Krivoy Rog region, Dnepropetrovsk region.

On the line of combat contact, the main actions take place in the Avdeevka area, where ours continue to advance, and the enemy is making attempts to stop the advance, suffering heavy losses. Near Kupyansk, ours also continue their slow advance, breaking into the defenses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

In other directions it is more or less calm, positional battles are taking place. The enemy is still making some attempts to attack in the Rabotino and Verbovoye areas in the Zaporozhye direction.

Comments

[Rumata]

Probably the suspensions for ATACMS are ready, the pilots are trained. They became active. The sky is glassy for them!
The Russian Air Force is great, but you also need to hit the airfields!

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Rumata

Probably the suspensions for ATACMS are ready, the pilots are trained. They became active. The sky is glassy for them!
The Air Force is great, but you also need to hit the airfields!

What kind of suspension? Atakms are launched from the ground.

[Rumata]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Atakms are launched from the ground.

Confused.)))) Storm Shadow, maybe TAURUS already. Let's follow the news.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

over the past XNUMX hours, ours destroyed five Ukrainian flying machines,

they survived...cars are already flying in Ukraine. and we only have airplanes...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

over the past XNUMX hours, ours destroyed five Ukrainian flying machines,

they survived...cars are already flying in Ukraine. and we only have airplanes...

Oh my goodness! What to do now... oh.... yo yo..

[Aken]

And in the USA, cars are already flying in space. This is progress!

[Enceladus]

Only 1 smart guy came to mind

[Aken]

Who knows what came to mind? The main thing is that he did it. One.
And others just get angry and jump on trampolines.

[bayard]

Quote from Aken

The main thing is that he did it. One.
And others just get angry and jump on trampolines.

Uh-oh, you were so excited about Brut about Lunokhods. The Soviet ones still flew, and what’s more, they worked properly back in the early 70s.

[Al manah]

So it’s Soviet, socialist. For some reason, democratic-capitalist ones cost a lot and fly poorly.

[bayard]

Quote: Al Manah

for some reason they stand a lot and fly poorly.

This is why feudalism with a capitalist bias was built - the feudal lords did not need galoshes.

[Aken]

Don't confuse the Lunokhod with a commercial vehicle.

[bayard]

Quote from Aken

Don't confuse the Lunokhod with a commercial vehicle.

Do you really think the Lunokhod is less complex and useful in Space than an ordinary commercial vehicle?
In addition, Lunokhods were landed on the Moon and they worked normally. What became famous for Musk’s Tesla, which was ejected into interplanetary space? This was just a demonstration test flight. Instead of the usual payload simulator, they stuck... a car in there for the sake of advertising and a pretty picture.

[Enceladus]

Terminators began from scratch, took possession of Stark technologies

[isv000]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

over the past XNUMX hours, ours destroyed five Ukrainian flying machines,

they survived...cars are already flying in Ukraine. and we only have airplanes...

"Terrafugia" was delivered...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

they survived...cars are already flying in Ukraine. and we only have airplanes...

And we have machines (aircraft) and ships (aircraft).

[dmi.pris1]

Actually, the MiG2Z has been repurposed as “Harm”, I don’t think it will perform what it’s called.

[knn54]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Su-57 was also involved in the events.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: knn54

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Su-57 was also involved in the events.

The British speak directly about this. A report from the Kingdom’s Ministry of Defense (January 2023) stated that Su-57 fighters launched long-range air-to-ground or air-to-air missiles at Ukraine. And this allegedly served as the first Western confirmation that Felon has indeed participated in combat operations, “at least since June 2022.”

The fact that Bandera's Mig-29s, carriers of JDAM guided bombs, were destroyed in one day in the amount of 7 units directly indicates that with a very high probability they were shot down in an air battle. These missiles for remote bombing, as a rule, do not enter the zone of our front-line air defense and take off to a height for launch, and then go to ultra-low altitudes, which allows them to hide from our radars. Most likely, they were destroyed from an area covered by independent anti-aircraft gunners . Russian Su-34/35s do not fly there. Thus, the conclusion suggests itself: it was a Su-57. But if earlier he hunted for the “ghosts of Kyiv” from afar, this time, apparently, he was nearby.

Let us recall that at the end of March, Ruselectronics (part of the Rostec state corporation) announced the development of a new radar-absorbing material that can seriously increase the capabilities of Russian aircraft to evade radar and is capable of absorbing up to 95% of radar waves.“The new Russian radar absorbent material, if successful, could provide the Su-57 with a significant advantage, complementing the fighter's already strong emphasis on low operating costs and the ability to operate with low logistics costs. It remains unclear when the new material can be considered ready for use on military aircraft,” Military Watch experts commented on this news.

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/391903/

[Commissar Kitten]

Quote from Orange Bigg

The British speak directly about this.

Well, no, they don’t say. In the very report in question, British intelligence says that Russia deliberately uses the Su-57 only to launch long-range missiles from Russian airspace, since its loss over Ukraine would be a very big blow to its reputation and export prospects.

When someone references someone, it's always a good idea to look at the original.

[Sevastiec]

I would not be surprised if these incredible losses of Ukrainian aviation over the past two days are related to the fact of the arrival of the Atacams at our airfields and, as a consequence, the need for an immediate media response to the massive loss of our aircraft.

[Pivot]

In the video, it’s not phantoms, but mirages, and sabers actually hit the ground, even I, far from aviation, can see it.

[Huarabey]

Well, the Phantom flashed there once)

[alystan]

Thus, in two days, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost 9 pieces of aircraft: one Mi-8 helicopter, three Su-24 front-line bombers and five MiG-29 fighters. By the way, on Friday, October 20, the Ministry of Defense reported that 12 Ukrainian Armed Forces aircraft had been shot down in a week, of which: 10 Mig-29 and two Su-25 attack aircraft, as well as two Mi-8 helicopters.

How nice it is to hear such reports. But it’s not clear where this scum got so many planes?

[Uno]

Fightbomber wrote back today, it’s probably written down in the reports - an enemy helicopter was shot down)

[Piramidon]

Quote: alystan

But it’s not clear where this scum got so many planes?

Soviet equipment was sent to them from all over Europe. In each country of the former Warsaw Pact there were at least 29 dozen MiG-2s alone.

[bayard]

Quote: Piramidon

In each country of the former Warsaw Pact there were at least 29 dozen MiG-2s alone.

British intelligence collected these aircraft (MiG-29) throughout Africa and Asia. Moreover, they also bought non-flying vehicles that required repairs - for spare parts and restoration. And other Soviet equipment and ammunition were collected from all over the world. But the fact that they are being shot down more often indicates that our fighters (and this is the job of mainly fighters) do not see NATO’s AWACS. So there is a high probability that this is the work of the Su-57. And the Su-57 is not only inconspicuous, but also has a covert surveillance radar. And this is good .

[max702]

Quote: alystan

But it’s not clear where this scum got so many planes?

USSR is a generous soul!

[acetophenone]

Another portion of lies. They counted, not lazy people, how much they took. The count for the third round has already begun for those shot down, but there are fools who believe...

[Revan Rick]

fat eater, don’t you know that all Soviet planes are supplied to you from Eastern Europe?)))

[sergey_vakk]

Saloed, how many were shot down, not one in Eastern Europe had so many. You have to lie wisely

[hwostatij]

Will you have an acorn, you unsummoned pig?

[Tusv]

Quote: acetophenon

The count for the third round has already begun for those shot down, but there are fools who believe...

According to the most conservative estimates, my brother PVOshik still needs to ground another one hundred and fifty Pepelats. And then you look, we’ll start lowering the F-16’s karma

[Roman Efremov]

And these lazy people who counted - do they know exactly how many planes were transferred to Ukraine?

[Tusv]

Well, consider for yourself. At the beginning of the SVO, Ukraine only had Mig-29s. A little more than a hundred in service and at least 250 in storage. The former Warsaw Pact has just over 40 in service and at least 50 in storage. In the countries that are part of the US coalition, 40 are in service and about 150 are in storage. We count the results. 180 combat. And 450 in storage. From storage, we divide 450 by three. Well, no one has canceled cannibalism in technology. A total of 330 combat Mig 29s. And the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation declares only about 200 destroyed Mig 29s. It turns out that the Mig 29 alone can fly more than a hundred

[osp]

You probably confused it with the Su-24.
Yes, Ukraine had about 200 of these from the USSR.
But the MiG-29 is much smaller and they suffered losses back in 2014 from militia MANPADS.
Theoretically, no more than 20-30 could come from Europe and that would be it.
No one else will give it - no, and it’s simply not necessary.
It’s true that several dozen MiG-29s could be collected from storage and ARZ across Ukraine.

[Tusv]

Quote from osp

You probably confused it with the Su-24.

Not at all. Air defense officers don’t confuse anything. Because he’s not a tenant. Su-24 at a standstill is at least 35. Su 25 is about 30. Our strike air wing is about 300. Almost parity with the Uroluftwaffe

[osp]

As of 23.02.22/24/35, there were approximately XNUMX Su-XNUMXs there.
Another fifty or so are in storage.
That's all. It turns out that there were around 80 Su-24s in total as of 23.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX.
Now they are actively exploiting about a dozen that have been converted for Western Kyrgyz Republics and that’s all.
It is unknown how many were lost and how many crews remained, but it is a complex aircraft.
The training of flight personnel must be taken seriously.

[Tusv]

I repaired my P-12 in 20 hours while on combat duty on the border with NATO. Only. We went to the long-term storage warehouse to pick up the donor. We replaced the microwave generator and 10 arrows. They returned the donor to the warehouse, preserved it and signed in the journal that I took from the donor. It's simple. No, my replacement division entered the database for Us, and We stood guard for Them.
What am I talking about? About the fact that hackers will build a finished car from scrap metal, well, in a little more than 20 hours

[Ryazan87]

At the beginning of the SVO, Ukraine only had Mig-29s. A little more than a hundred in service

Are you serious?

In the countries that are part of the US coalition, 40 are in service and about 150 are in storage.

What kind of countries are these that are part of the “US coalition” (what is this?) and have 200 MiG-29s?
Well, Algeria and India, probably. Iran and North Korea are also unlikely.

[Roman Efremov]

Perhaps even more. There are also secret unaccounted deliveries, and from storage it is not a fact that 1 out of 3, maybe 1 out of 2.

[isv000]

Quote: acetophenon

The count for the third round has already begun for those shot down, but there are fools who believe...

Too much fools, boar! We are not stupid enough, but your fools are rich in ideas!

[Vladlous]

Give a world without aces to Square!

[ave0123]

Quote: alystan

How nice it is to hear such reports. But it’s not clear where this scum got so many planes?

Only according to officially announced data, Bulgaria transferred 16 MiG-29 fighters and 14 Su-25 attack aircraft to Ukraine, Poland - 28 MiG-29 aircraft, Slovakia - 12 MiG-29.

And you say where...

[sergey_vakk]

Just last week, 12 were shot down according to the Ministry of Defense. So count how many there were in a year and a half

[Petio]

Bulgaria did not provide a single plane. North Macedonia - 4 Su-25

[osp]

Polish MiG-29s are almost all in service; they recently showed up during exercises.
So it disappears.
Well, maybe they gave less than a dozen and that’s it.

[isv000]

Quote from osp

Polish MiG-29s are almost all in service; they recently showed up during exercises.
So it disappears.
Well, maybe they gave less than a dozen and that’s it.

Here! They have training... Label on the tail, took off - worked and - to the base! To the side of the panenka...

[osp]

In fact, they are conducting exercises not far from the Kaliningrad region.
And Poland has been in NATO for a long time, all aviation, even such, has been transferred to the alliance’s communication/identification/targeting standards.
No one will simply give such an aircraft to a country outside the bloc without preliminary preparations to remove what cannot be transferred to a country outside the bloc.

[Piramidon]

Quote from osp

No one will simply give such an aircraft to a country outside the bloc without preliminary preparations to remove what cannot be transferred to a country outside the bloc.

How long does it take to remove several blocks?

[osp]

There are not several blocks.
There are entire systems integrated into the aircraft's avionics.
And without them he will not be able to carry out combat missions.
And most likely it will be shot down by its own air defense.

[Igor_S]

During the day, air defense systems shot down three MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force in the areas of the settlements of Blagodatnoye and Lozovoye in the Dnepropetrovsk region and Chuguev in the Kharkov region, as well as one Su-25 north-west of the city of Donetsk

Where in the report is it said about the Su-24? How do you read the reports? How can one confuse the Su-25 attack aircraft with the Su-24 bomber?

[Des]

Quote from: Igor_S

Where in the report is it said about the Su-24? How do you read the reports? How can one confuse the Su-25 attack aircraft with the Su-24 bomber?

From the article: “According to a new report from the Ministry of Defense, Russian air defense shot down three MiG-29 fighters and one Su-24 front-line bomber. The fighters were shot down in the Blagodatnoye, Lozovoye districts of the Dnepropetrovsk and Chuguev regions of the Kharkov region. But our bomber was shot down northwest of Donetsk, apparently while trying to attack our positions.

Thus, in two days, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost 9 pieces of aircraft: one Mi-8 helicopter, three Su-24 front-line bombers and five MiG-29 fighters. By the way, on Friday, October 20, the Ministry of Defense reported that 12 Ukrainian Armed Forces aircraft had been shot down in a week, of which: 10 Mig-29 and two Su-25 attack aircraft, as well as two Mi-8 helicopters. "Apparently here.

[陈乐为]

What followed was a delightful question and answer session:
Why can Ukrainian military planes still take off?

[Igor_S]

Because they also have (there are 28 fewer Ukrainian pilots in a week) pilots and kerosene. And in what country were they based, hiding, and who gave them these planes, MiGs first of all

[Sergey3]

It doesn’t matter in which country they were based, the main thing is that with their bodies they will add humus to the black earth steppes of the outskirts..

[sergey_vakk]

And cheers for the patriots, this question does not bother them and they stick to their line that they have been driving hundreds from Eastern Europe for a year and a half

[osp]

It is useless to explain to them.
Even theoretically, not a single Su-27 and not a single Su-24 could come from Europe.
Nobody had them in service there for a long time.
And there are very few places in the world where such technology can be found. And she will be killed.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces still use the Su-27 and Su-24 that were in service and in storage as of 23.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX.
Just intelligently distributed and used.

[HAM]

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/391903/

The British have already made a “diagnosis”.....as always, their intelligence is at its best, direct competitors of British scientists.....

[Nexcom]

Niii, they are not competitors, they work closely together.

[AlexWar]

The question is where do they get their planes and helicopters, obviously someone is ferrying the planes for them

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote from Alexwar

The question is where do they get their planes and helicopters, obviously someone is ferrying the planes for them

Most likely they are flying from a base in Romania and haven’t returned...? They weren’t upset...less work. Go home early.

[Rockerman]

Well, who to believe now, comrades? Mr. Konashenkov or our eternal enemies, the small-shaven guys, with their theme that all these downed planes are the merit of the Su-57, with its updated special coating?

[Leshak]

Quote: RockerMan

Well, who to believe now, comrades? Mr. Konashenkov or our eternal enemies, the small-shaven guys, with their theme that all these downed planes are the merit of the Su-57, with its updated special coating?

I don't think this is important. The main thing is that the litaks are down to earth and no longer pose a threat.

[Ivan_7]

Three MiG-29 fighters and a Su-24 front-line bomber of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were shot down by Russian air defense in a day - Ministry of Defense

[Amateur]

But he is already with 2*, and not with one, like you. He deserved it, though. The most, most combative "general"

[Sandy Andy]

Perhaps the plane crash is related to the modernization of our AWACS aircraft. If so, then it's high time.

[sergey_vakk]

Self-fall, self-fall, but do you believe that they have so many planes that they shoot down a dozen every week?

[Havoc]

Quote: sergey_vakk

Self-fall, self-fall, but do you believe that they have so many planes that they shoot down a dozen every week?

And what you don’t like, the reports indicate the exact location of the shooting down of a particular plane, and there is no refutation from that side, if this was a fantasy voiced by Konoshenko, then you can imagine what kind of high-profile the non-brothers would raise, but so far there is silence.

[sergey_vakk]

I haven’t seen or heard about specific places, and I don’t even bother with visual ones. And it’s not the brothers who just laugh and nothing else. Of course, they also lie, but they act smarter, since they have good advisers

[sergey_vakk]

I haven’t seen or heard about specific places, and I don’t even bother with visual ones. And it’s not the brothers who just laugh and nothing else. Of course, they also lie, but they act smarter, since they have good advisers

[Piramidon]

Quote: sergey_vakk

Self-fall, self-fall, but do you believe that they have so many planes that they shoot down a dozen every week?

Well, why lie? Especially for trolls like you, it’s said that this hasn’t happened for a long time

[Camrad]

Everything is much cooler, but for now we won’t please the Ukrainians with details, they are now in shock, they just can’t understand why planes are falling in batches in their deep rear.

[Tim666]

Is it hard to show a photo from a satellite with a georeferencing? When the air defense mistakenly shot down an SU-35, ukra promptly posted a photo of the crash site.

[Constantine N]

The army is waiting for F-16s, they are not taking care of the planes

[svp67]

The Ministry of Defense reported that 12 Ukrainian Armed Forces aircraft were shot down in a week, of which: 10 Mig-29 and two Su-25 attack aircraft, as well as two Mi-8 helicopters

plus it

In two days, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost 9 pieces of aircraft: one Mi-8 helicopter, three Su-24 front-line bombers and five MiG-29 fighters.

How can one not recall A.V. Suvorov: “Write more, why should the infidel feel sorry…”
By the way, the Ukrainians confirmed the destruction of the Mi-24, not the Mi-8

[acetophenone]

Quote from: ave0123

Quote: alystan

How nice it is to hear such reports. But it’s not clear where this scum got so many planes?

Only according to officially announced data, Bulgaria transferred 16 MiG-29 fighters and 14 Su-25 attack aircraft to Ukraine, Poland - 28 MiG-29 aircraft, Slovakia - 12 MiG-29.

And you say where...

It's nice until you pick up a calculator. Come on, how much? 70 sides? Two planes a day is enough for a month. How long has the war been going on?

[d4.fokin]

It's very simple, exceptional ones are purchased wherever they are. Countries that have Soviet cars sell them on the sly for good money.

[osp]

It's a delusion.
Do you really believe this?
Well, WHO will sell them a Su-27 or Su-24??!!

Syria? Or maybe Iran will sell it?
Or maybe China will sell it? Or Belarus?

Others simply do not exist in nature and never have existed.
Uganda? Well, a couple of dead planes. Ethiopia or Eritrea? The same.
And who will distill/transport them from there across the world to Ukraine and for what?
Neither Indonesia nor Vietnam will give it, the planes are new and cost incredible amounts of money.
And these countries seem to be on our side.

[tralflot1832]

I hope this was done by the “devils” from the VVB “Besovets”!!!

[Sergey3]

One thing surprises me: why are air defense launchers always placed so close to each other? To cover everything at once with one successfully arriving rocket?

[Tim666]

Quote from: d4.fokin

It's very simple, exceptional ones are purchased wherever they are. Countries that have Soviet cars sell them on the sly for good money.

Please share some secret information from where SU-24s arrive in batches? Just don’t need phrases from somewhere in Africa. And preferably with a link to Wiki on the availability of working aircraft for such and such a year, because don’t scold Wiki, but there are links to sources, and aviation in the world is calculated quite accurately.

[Petio]

The past period of conflict has shown that Konashenko’s reports should be divided by 5 and real numbers can be obtained. 1-2 sides were probably really shot down. Yesterday one Mi-8 was hit by a MANPADS but escaped, although it may have been damaged

[Tim666]

Quote: Sandy Andy

Perhaps the plane crash is related to the modernization of our AWACS aircraft. If so, then it's high time.

The plane crash is associated with arrivals at the airfields of Berdyansk and Lugansk, that’s how accurate this question is... Let’s consider the operation of air defense at a decent distance from the LBS - the target is on the locator screen - the missile is launched, after a few minutes the marks seem to coincide and there are no more marks, we must remember that the Mig-29 is a very maneuverable machine, it performs the anti-missile maneuver with a bang, the destruction of the target in this situation can only be confirmed by visual control data or reliable intelligence agents, and here the question is - the Russian Aerospace Forces do not have the ability to photograph the crash sites? the newest satellites are not inferior to the Pentagon’s, which already in the early 90s saw soldiers with a beard or shaved (which is of course an exaggeration)

[Svetlana]

IMHO a new detection technology has been introduced. Either new radars or new missiles, or both.

[fa2998]

Quote: alystan

How nice it is to hear such reports. But it’s not clear where this scum got so many planes?

I think such messages should be taken calmly. There is an information war going on. It even intensifies when “in real life” the fighting subsides. We need to show the population that we are winning.
Just look, soon the final figures from the beginning of the war (NWO) will disappear from messages. There’s already so much “stuffed” there that it makes many people smile.

[sergey_vakk]

It’s clear that it’s an information war, but work more subtly, not stupidly, the more the better

[fa2998]

That’s what I’m talking about. There will be daily and weekly results, maybe monthly ones. AND THERE WILL NOT BE EVERYTHING FOR THE WAR! There will be joy for everyone, and there will be fewer questions, and looking for information and collecting information, and asking questions, you can earn the title of foreign agent and spy.

[osp]

Quote from Tim666

Quote from: d4.fokin

It's very simple, exceptional ones are purchased wherever they are. Countries that have Soviet cars sell them on the sly for good money.

Please share some secret information from where SU-24s arrive in batches? Just don’t need phrases from somewhere in Africa. And preferably with a link to Wiki on the availability of working aircraft for such and such a year, because don’t scold Wiki, but there are links to sources, and aviation in the world is calculated quite accurately.

Ukraine inherited from the USSR about 200 Su-24s of various modifications and years of production.
Including the rarest limited Su-24MP jammers that were based in Chertkov in the West of the USSR.
It is clear that over 30 years most of this has fallen into disrepair or been stolen.
But as of 23.02.02, 30-35 bombers were actively in service and about fifty or no more were in storage.
That's where they get them from. Perhaps out of several they collect one, but they don’t need to restore everything.

But their losses are, in any case, greatly exaggerated.
And the proof is simple - trained crews do not run out in more than a year and a half.
And this is a difficult aircraft to operate and maintain; many training flights are needed to train cadets, which is a problem in war conditions.
I think there are really no more than 20-25 crews there.

[Emperor_Alive]

Quote from osp

And the proof is simple - trained crews do not run out in more than a year and a half.

This is not proof. The crew may have time to eject.

[osp]

As a rule, when missiles hit an aircraft, the crew dies.
And if ejected, it’s usually hospital or captivity, and then often written off due to health reasons.

[Emperor_Alive]

If a pilot is shot down behind the front line by a long-range missile, he can eject on his own territory

[RuAbel]

Konashenkov lost his notebook! Did you forget that all Ukrainian planes were shot down?

[Mr. One Two]

Okay, it’s clear with the pilots, they’re mostly disposable and made of junk, but is it so easy to fool a pilot into committing suicide?

[osp]

That's what I'm thinking about.
Well, where were they able to train so many Su-24 crews?
This is a difficult aircraft to fly; high training and many training flights are required.
And this is problematic in war conditions.

[Architect]

Ours can use the words “shot down” to mean the defeat of an aircraft.
The aircraft itself, after repair, returns to service again.
As if no one here is already succeeding and lying.

[opuonmed]

https://t.me/RtrDonetsk Репортёр Руденко V
Sweden is preparing to deploy JAS-39 Gripen fighters to Ukraine. These are multi-role aircraft with strike capabilities. Although these vehicles have not yet been in combat, they have many advantages. The software is updated regularly, bugs are fixed, and new features are added.

[r5555]

started... the noodle plant was turned on again

[osp]

Insiders have no doubt that Ukraine is still using the Su-27 and Su-24 that they had in service/in storage as of 23.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX.
Others simply have nowhere to come from.

The question is different.
Why were they not destroyed on earth for more than a year and a half?
They are based somewhere, serviced somewhere, stored.
This is not a needle. It’s clear that they change position regularly, but those sides that are in storage
They don’t have this opportunity - they stand in hangars.

Apparently our intelligence is very bad.
Both with satellite and with intelligence.
2 years is coming soon...

[osp]

Quote: bayard

Quote: Piramidon

In each country of the former Warsaw Pact there were at least 29 dozen MiG-2s alone.

British intelligence collected these aircraft (MiG-29) throughout Africa and Asia. Moreover, they also bought non-flying vehicles that required repairs - for spare parts and restoration. And other Soviet equipment and ammunition were collected from all over the world. But the fact that they are being shot down more often indicates that our fighters (and this is the job of mainly fighters) do not see NATO’s AWACS. So there is a high probability that this is the work of the Su-57. And the Su-57 is not only inconspicuous, but also has a covert surveillance radar. And this is good .

The MiG-29 could be transferred mainly from Europe, but not many - no more than a few dozen.
That’s all, actually, but in order not to be unfounded, I’ll still describe in more detail what anyone might have.
Asia:
Azerbaijan - had no more than 15 pieces. While everyone seemed to be there, they didn’t give in;
Bangladesh, India, Iran, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Mongolia, Myanmar, Syria, Turkmenistan, Yemen - they won’t give it for obvious reasons, and there aren’t many of them there;
Malaysia - did not give, no more than a dozen in storage.
Africa:
Eritrea - no more than a dozen. This is not serious, almost all the trash is no longer usable;
Sudan, Egypt, Algeria - they won’t give anything. We have to do it ourselves.

This is where the movie actually ends.
So only European countries have a clue in this regard.
The question is which ones, but in any case there was no way they could convey more than fifty.
Germany had 24 MiG-29s which it transferred to Poland. Their fate is unknown.
Slovakia? I donated no more than a dozen.
Hungary and Serbia will not give it for obvious reasons.
Romania and Bulgaria no more than 35 cars per two countries. They disown.

That's all. No longer exists in nature outside of Russia/Belarus.

And yes, in Latin America only Cuba and Peru have the MiG-29.
They won’t give it for obvious reasons, and you have to do it yourself.

[tolmachiev51]

I wanted to believe it, but I can’t - where do they get them!? Since the beginning of the Northern Military District, 25 thousand have already been destroyed.

[Ivan№One]

News from the category “Up to 200 nationalists destroyed”!?
Or is it true?