Beijing and Moscow signed the largest contract for the supply of Russian grains to China

Partnership relations between Russia and China continue to develop. Countries are entering into new mutually beneficial deals that contribute to the development of their economies.

Thus, yesterday Beijing and Moscow signed a major contract for the supply of Russian grain to China. About this to journalists TASS said the leader of the New Overland Grain Corridor initiative, Karen Hovsepyan.

According to him, the agreement provides for Russia to supply 70 million tons of grain, oilseeds and grain legumes to China over the next twelve years. The contract was signed for the amount of 2,5 trillion rubles.

As Hovsepyan put it, the above-mentioned agreement plays a vital role within the framework of the One Belt, One Road project. After all, thanks to the Far East and Siberia, Russia will be able to completely replace Ukrainian grain exports, which have fallen out of world markets for an indefinite period.

Finally, the TASS interlocutor added that at the end of November another important interstate agreement between the PRC and the Russian Federation is expected to be signed, providing for the creation of a new overland grain corridor. The latter, thanks to the Trans-Baikal Grain Terminal, will increase Russian grain exports by 8 million tons. Moreover, after the completion of the construction of additional infrastructure, this figure can be doubled.

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[antiaircrafter]

Beijing and Moscow signed the largest contract for the supply of Russian grains to China

Again raw materials.
When will the Russian authorities give flour millers and feed manufacturers jobs?

[paul3390]

It’s not a fact that the Chinese will be ready to buy flour and feed. Do they also need to load their capacities with something?

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: paul3390

Do they also need to load their capacities with something?

These are their problems. Either take what’s ready, or you won’t get anything.

[paul3390]

Do you really think that we are the only grain supplier on the planet?

[bayard]

Quote: paul3390

Do you really think that we are the only grain supplier on the planet?

Actually, it is the largest in the world, which has become even larger over the past 1,5 years. In addition, another supplier (3rd place in the world) practically flew out of the market.
In addition, flour can also be offered for export packaged or in the form of pasta, and this can be exported in containers rather than in grain trucks. All added value will remain in the Russian Federation.
And not only to China.
Such export opportunities for grain in the Russian Federation appeared not so long ago, so the export of grain processing products, oilseeds and grain legumes is ... wild - gross, grain in nature.
At the same time, it is much more profitable to export vegetable oil, especially packaged oil - much more surplus value will remain in the country, and additional jobs will appear. So we need to work precisely in this direction and increase the share in the export of processed products.
And on the remaining unoccupied empty, waste lands, it is necessary to cultivate Industrial hemp. It improves the soil, grows on absolutely any soil, in any climate zone, and produces a high yield.
Harvest of what?
Pulp!!! For textiles, cardboard, paper... gunpowders, explosives and rocket fuel! Hemp produces many times more cellulose per hectare than a hectare of cotton field. The annual yield of cellulose per hectare of hemp is several times greater than the increase in cellulose per hectare of forest. And it’s cheaper... Let’s finally stop cutting down forests for nothing.
In addition, hemp and products made from it have strong bactericidal properties. If hemp fibers are added to the plaster, fungus will never appear, and fungus will not take over the pages of books made from hemp. Products in hemp paper bags will not spoil much longer. Wounds under hemp fiber bandages do not rot and heal much (!) faster (and we are at war for a fairly long period). Paper for the most durable paper on which they print, incl. and dollars are made from hemp.
And I repeat once again - it costs many times less, it grows simply everywhere... even on contaminated soils. Moreover, after a few years, waste soils under hemp fields become quite suitable for growing grains, legumes, oilseeds and melons. With the help of hemp, you can simply return depleted fields to crop rotation. Not for steam, but for hemp.
Remember Soviet wrapping paper? Brown ?
She .
And in the USA, just recently (and maybe to this day), shopping bags are not plastic, but... That's right - from hemp.
Any wasteland can be sown. And we will lose such a critical dependence on cotton imports. Including for the manufacture of gunpowder, explosives and rocket fuel. For this, it makes no difference what origin the cellulose is used. But hemp will be many times cheaper. And there will be MUCH more of it.
Here.
And you’re talking about the export of raw grain... in beans.
And don’t just talk about drugs There are enough high-yielding varieties of industrial hemp that do not produce drugs. Moreover, due to cross-pollination, wild hemp loses its narcotic properties... and is domesticated.
And besides cellulose itself, there is also hemp oil. And our ancestors added purified hemp grains to food - this is a very effective and healthy food supplement.
On waste, completely unusable lands. At least in Siberia. In three months, essentially a young tree of 3 - 3,5 meters grows from a tiny grain. And hemp fabrics, when processed correctly, can be obtained at the same quality level as silk and linen.
China has now adopted a program for expanded hemp cultivation, incl. to combat deserts. And they now add hemp fibers to fabrics for uniforms for military personnel and work clothes, to special fabrics for the production of footwear, incl. sports... And sneakers stop stinking, uniforms and workwear last longer and eliminate the causes of irritation... The Chinese understood this and took hemp seriously... Having previously removed all hemp processing equipment from the former USSR - factories and plants for the production of agricultural machinery for hemp they bought them up and took them out clean, I know from examples.
So I say - it’s time to engage in this extremely profitable business again. It was idiot Khrushchev who called corn, alien to our latitudes, the “queen of fields.” And the wise comrade Stalin called hemp the Queen of Play!!! And he encouraged its cultivation and the breeding of new, more productive varieties in every possible way.
That's how it should be.

[lukash66]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Beijing and Moscow signed the largest contract for the supply of Russian grains to China

Again raw materials.
When will the Russian authorities give flour millers and feed manufacturers jobs?

No, it's better to rot. All this stuff needs to be stored somewhere in appropriate conditions; you can’t throw it in heaps in leaky barns. And all the stores are filled with something like domestic pasta and other bakery products. Just like all kinds of cereals. And there are no problems with feed; we don’t seem to have any loss of livestock.

[T-100]

And what’s more, all the stores are filled with domestic pasta and other bakery products. Just like all kinds of cereals. And we don’t seem to have any problems with feed or livestock loss.

What about the prices? Why are they growing and growing, the harvest is growing and the price of bakery products is rising and not only for them. They tell us that everything is in order with agriculture, there is milk yield, there is meat, there is bread, and the prices for them for the end consumer are growing from year to year.

[Pankrat25]

What about the prices? Why are they growing and growing, the harvest is growing and the price of bakery products is rising and not only for them. They tell us that everything is in order with agriculture, there is milk yield, there is meat, there is bread, and the prices for them for the end consumer are growing from year to year.

Because pricing is set by speculators, not the state and not the farmers themselves. And all this comes from a general speculative model of the economy as a whole.

[faiver]

We don’t seem to have any livestock deaths

- yeah, only the cattle population decreases every year

[antiaircrafter]

Quote from: lukash66

No, it's better to rot. All this stuff needs to be stored somewhere in appropriate conditions; you can’t throw it in heaps in leaky barns.

Therefore, it is necessary to process and ship finished products with high added value.

[Stas157]

Quote from: lukash66

No, it's better to rot.

Why would it necessarily rot if it is not sold to the Chinese? Is there no one else?

. over the next twelve years. The contract was signed for the amount of 2,5 trillion rubles.

A lot can happen in twelve years. For example, the ruble will depreciate by half! In this case, the ruble price of the contract will not change?
I hope that this point is taken into account in the contract. And thanks to devaluation, we will receive more rubles! Well, that’s what a great economist once told us.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote from: lukash66

And there are no problems with feed; we don’t seem to have any loss of livestock.

Of course, it is not observed, because we do not have cattle.

[faiver]

Shot you're going through - more than 18 million. heads, i.e. one cow per 8 people

[TermNachTer]

But, for at least five years, Russia has solved the problem of surpluses that have nowhere to go and nowhere to store. China will "scavenge" everything.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: TermNachTER

and there is nowhere to store it. China will "scavenge" everything.

Do the Chinese have somewhere to store? Why do we sell grain overseas and buy beef from there? Don't we grow it ourselves? Or is the elevator difficult to build?

[Andobor]

The difference between the price of flour and grain cannot beat the price of flour trucks; bread trucks are also not an option. Flour is a completely different logistics.

[Nastia makarova]

they won’t buy flour and products, that’s all, they won’t buy oil products either

[maiman61]

Why then does Turia buy OUR grain, grind it into flour and sell SUCCESSFULLY all over the world? Why then does India buy OUR oil, process it and sell it all over the world, including to the EU? Maybe someone's chair is pressing?

[Gomunkul]

Again raw materials.
When will the Russian authorities give flour millers and feed manufacturers jobs?

Maybe this is still a general problem and needs to be solved comprehensively? Here is an example from today's realities:

A record 2 million tons of grain were harvested in the Nizhny Novgorod region, but as a result of overproduction, prices for this year's crop decreased. A significant part of the threshed grain turned out to be of low quality, farmers complained. At the same time, there is still last year’s grain in the elevators, unsold due to export restrictions. The Ministry of Agriculture estimated the losses of the regional agro-industrial complex at approximately 10–12 billion rubles. Deputies of the Legislative Assembly proposed returning to a planned agricultural economy, switching to growing more marginal crops and developing grain processing. The budget will be asked to compensate part of the fuel costs.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Gomunkul

A significant part of the threshed grain turned out to be of low quality, farmers complained.

It is the flour millers who are complaining, not the farmers. Because the lower the grain class, the greater the harvest. So they feed us bread baked from grain, which is only suitable for cattle feed.

[Piramidon]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Again raw materials.

Do you offer to sell ready-made buns and pies to the Chinese?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: antiaircrafter

Again raw materials.

Do you offer to sell ready-made buns and pies to the Chinese?

Yes, they even disdain to buy cigarettes from us, let alone pies and rolls.

[tralflot1832]

A very profitable contract for us. In $ it is 25,7 billion, the cost of a ton of grain is $367/ton. Now our price is just over $250/ton. Brazil bought a ton for $290 last month. For flour and fertilizers in The PRC is doing great with us. True, the PRC has relied on Belarus for fertilizers; it is much more difficult for them than for us. No ports, no fleet. Somewhere between 1/3 and 2/3 of the fertilizer market in the PRC is divided between us.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: tralflot1832

A very profitable contract for us. In $ it is 25,7 billion, the cost of a ton of grain is $367/ton. Now our price is just over $250/ton. Brazil bought a ton for $290 last month. For flour and fertilizers in The PRC is doing great with us. True, the PRC has relied on Belarus for fertilizers; it is much more difficult for them than for us. No ports, no fleet. Somewhere between 1/3 and 2/3 of the fertilizer market in the PRC is divided between us.

Transaction in rubles, take into account inflation.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tralflot1832

A very profitable contract for us. In $ it is 25,7 billion, the cost of a ton of grain is 367 $/ton. Now our price is just over 250 $/ton

Listen, Tralflot, do you know how hard it takes to grow this grain? It's worse than catching a herring. And the combine operators receive pennies.

[APASUS]

China has signed a contract to invest a couple of three billion in the agriculture of Siberia.
It's time for us to take care of Siberia ourselves

[tralflot1832]

And we, even without China, are doing very well in agriculture in Siberia, without its investments.

[opposite28]

“Land corridors”, “silk roads” of all sorts are of course good for mutually beneficial economic cooperation between the Russian Federation and China, but what about migration policy towards Chinese citizens who behave like masters in Siberia?! There are more than enough examples and reviews from local residents of the Far East and Siberia. Especially Siberia

[coinsam]

A lie, and an absolute lie. There have been no more Chinese in Siberia since 1992. The Chinese have no desire to move to Siberia.

[Piramidon]

How many times can these liberal fakes be multiplied? Every year I visit Siberia and have not seen a single Chinese there and have not heard anything from the Siberians about any of their invasions. You also forgot to add that the Chinese drank all of Lake Baikal.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

The agreement provides for Russia to supply 70 million tons of grain, oilseeds and grain legumes to China over the next twelve years. The contract was signed in the amount of 2,5 trillion rubles —

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— Your own “grain deal”...

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[rotmistr60]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Again raw materials.

Why don’t you like the contract worth 2,5 trillion rubles? And grain is supplied by all countries that produce it in sufficient quantities.

[KVU-NSVD]

It could be even more, but apparently without Transsib2 logistics simply won’t allow it. We need this second line, and based on it, new checkpoints on the Chinese border and port facilities on the Pacific Ocean

[Saffron]

As I understand it, the contract is in rubles? If so, then good, China will need to get these 2.5 trillion rubles from somewhere, which means either buy rubles from us or sell us something for rubles

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Saffron

As I understand it, the contract is in rubles? If so, then good, China will need to get these 2.5 trillion rubles from somewhere, which means either buy rubles from us or sell us something for rubles

This is very bad, because the ruble will constantly fall and we will receive less and less for grain.
And China already has rubles in bulk; it sells us consumer goods from the sea.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: BlackMokona

And China already has rubles in bulk; it sells us consumer goods from the sea.

Agree. I bought a Huawei phone for 18 thousand. It’s scary to think how much grain you can buy with this money. Is he worth it?

[STONEWARE]

Quote: BlackMokona

because the ruble will constantly fall

If there is demand for the ruble, then the ruble will NOT fall. And through such transactions they are trying to create this demand. Certain losses at the beginning of such a process are probably calculated and taken into account.

Quote: BlackMokona

And China already has rubles in bulk; it sells us consumer goods from the sea.

Does China really sell us consumer goods for rubles?

[Blackmokona]

Quote: GRES

If there is demand for the ruble, then the ruble will NOT fall. And through such transactions they are trying to create this demand. Certain losses at the beginning of such a process are probably calculated and taken into account.

It is falling because the government is actively printing it. Because he solves all his problems by printing rubles. After all, why cut costs, which is politically unpleasant? When can the ruble collapse? Why look for new sources of financing if the ruble can collapse and we will receive more rubles for a barrel of oil and a cubic meter of gas?

[Dedok]

Quote: tralflot1832

A very profitable contract for us. In $ it is 25,7 billion, the cost of a ton of grain is $367/ton. Now our price is just over $250/ton. Brazil bought a ton for $290 last month. For flour and fertilizers in The PRC is doing great with us. True, the PRC has relied on Belarus for fertilizers; it is much more difficult for them than for us. No ports, no fleet. Somewhere between 1/3 and 2/3 of the fertilizer market in the PRC is divided between us. good

I don’t understand, so how much does a ton of grain cost under this contract? - 367 dead presidents??

[tralflot1832]

Grandfather, I haven’t read the contract. But this is the price per ton of product. And the People’s Republic of China loves our soybeans very much, more than grains.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tralflot1832

Grandfather, I haven’t read the contract. But this is the price per ton of product.

Is it 35 thousand? The labor of machine operators is valued cheaply. Especially when you consider the freeloaders who are on their tail. My dad, as a combine operator in the USSR, received 320 rubles a month. Now they get much less.