Ukrainian resources: Tarnavsky launched a local landing operation in the Kherson direction on the initiative of Zelensky’s office

The enemy is probing the Kherson direction, creating a small bridgehead on the left bank of the Dnieper. As Ukrainian resources report, citing sources in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the decision on a further landing operation will be made based on the current situation.

The command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has been concentrating forces on the right bank for a long time, clearly preparing a landing operation. Ukrainian DRGs periodically land on the islands, trying to create bridgeheads for further advance, but ours knock them out. However, according to the latest data, the Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to create a small bridgehead, occupying on Tuesday, October 17, two villages on the left bank of the Dnieper.

According to the TG channel "Rybar", two assault groups of the 35th and 36th Marine Brigades of the Ukrainian Naval Forces managed to overcome the railway bridge in the Aleshek area and took up a perimeter defense in the village of Poyma. After the transfer of reinforcements, they managed to move further forward and reach the northern outskirts of Peschanivka, occupying several houses. The enemy was covered by Russian artillery, as a result of which he suffered losses. But there is no need to say that the Ukrainian Armed Forces retreated. At the moment, the situation in the Poima and Peschanovka areas is not completely clear.

In Kyiv, it is reported that the local landing operation was launched by the commander of the Tavria group, Tarnavsky, on the personal initiative of Zelensky’s office; the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Zaluzhny, opposed this. At the moment, Ukrainian groups hold a small bridgehead; Tarnavsky proposes throwing additional forces into battle and opening a second front in the Kherson direction. The General Staff believes that this will lead to too many losses in personnel.

Meanwhile, according to our intelligence data, the enemy is concentrating additional forces on the right bank of the Dnieper opposite the Ukrainian Armed Forces bridgehead. Near Sadovoy and Pridneprovsky, the 501st and 1st battalions of the 36th separate marine brigade are preparing to cross the Dnieper, and to the north of the islands of Kozatsky and Melkiy, the forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are concentrating to attack the line Cossack Camps - Krynki.

Comments

[Sandor Clegane]

The fisherman is already reporting the opposite, but the “Ossetians” do not confirm at all that the Ukrainians occupied 2 settlements

[Ivan Ivanov]

To the east, Ukrainian units are trying to expand the bridgehead on the left bank by advancing in small groups towards Poyma and Peschanivka.

By the night of October 18, fighting was taking place in the area of ​​the indicated settlements: Russian troops were doing everything necessary to stop the emerging threat

[Saburov_Alexander53]

I like to look at the territory in pictures from Google maps. And I initially had a question about the railway bridge, which is a little higher upstream than the Antonovsky automobile bridge. They didn’t write about Antonovsky only on the fence, how it was first bombed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and then blown up by ours during the retreat. And on the railway, everyone was like water in their mouths and I was sure that they had done something to it too, at least they had removed the rails and used them to weld a passage across the bridge for the infantry.... And it turns out that there is nothing like that, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces walk along the railway bridge to the left bank. Probably, this is the big strategic plan of our command, if we give passage in small groups and destroy those who infiltrate? Or will we never learn how to blow up railway bridges, even if they were under our control? And someone decided to destroy all the bridges across the Dnieper, along which weapons go to the front. Maybe hang up signs for the Armed Forces of Ukraine - “Uvaga, passage is prohibited!”?

[credo]

...At the moment, Ukrainian groups hold a small bridgehead, Tarnavsky proposes throwing additional forces into battle and opening a second front in the Kherson direction...

Is there something we don’t know, or is the number of Ukrainian Armed Forces growing exponentially despite its decline at the fronts and the civilian population in the rear, or is this just a figure of speech by the Ukrainian authorities about the 2nd Front in one of many directions?

[NDR-791]

Quote: credo

about the 2nd front in one of many directions

Local operation, same local success... for the same local period.

[Denis812]

Excuse me, but a landing operation across the Dnieper with the capture of two settlements is, you know, too much for “local success”.
There are two comrades - Zhukov and Rokossovsky, who spent 4 months and had 4 million people in the troops entrusted to them, to break through the defenses along the Dnieper.
For some reason, I don’t see any super-commanders or millions of people on the Ukrainian side.
It’s even somehow surprising, how is it that the Ukrainian Armed Forces sent a bunch of people who calmly swam across the Dnieper and captured two settlements.

Or is this a cunning tactic like letting the enemy into the fire bag? There is already such a bag - under the Antonov Bridge. Now another one? And then more?

[single-n]

Rather, our reports on Ukrainian Armed Forces losses are too “optimistic.” Well, or we are not as strong as they present us.

[Arkady007]

It seems that not only we do not know, but also above.
What happened to our people who stood guard in these villages, who will be responsible for this?
Two days of silence, and now it suddenly started.

[Volunteer Marek]

Yes, no - that's right. They're just putting lies in our ears. The management has lied to the end. It's all very sad.

[Romario_Argo]

yeah, and in a week, we’ll be burying the corpses of these ukrovoyaks again

[1976AG]

Quote: Romario_Argo

yeah, and in a week, we’ll be burying the corpses of these ukrovoyaks again

Do you think in a week? In the Antonovsky Bridge area, how many months have they already had a bridgehead there? Now another one has been created.

[tralflot1832]

As far as I know, this is a gray zone, there are no of ours there. The right bank is higher than the left bank, where we are. There are plenty of alarmists, as I understand it. And I’m tired of them being oppressed.

[1976AG]

Quote: tralflot1832

As far as I know, this is a gray zone, there are no of ours there. The right bank is higher than the left bank, where we are. There are plenty of alarmists, as I understand it. And I’m tired of them being oppressed.

We are not only full of alarmists. We still have enough people who pretend that everything is fine. I don't even know what's worse.

[tralflot1832]

Here is the terrain in that area, let them climb into the mousetrap.

[bayard]

Quote: tralflot1832

Here is the terrain in that area, let them climb into the mousetrap.

Actually, this is a classic bridgehead that can become a mousetrap, can be expanded and filled with troops, or can simply become a hemorrhage for our defense there for some time.
A low, gentle bank is difficult to defend and control, and from such a bank it is VERY difficult to force the opposite high and rather steep bank. The Sumerians need some kind of result so as not to lose funding. I think it would be very useful to use cluster munitions against this bridgehead. As far as I know, there are quite a lot of such ammunition in warehouses, but for some reason their use is not practiced.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: tralflot1832

The right bank is higher than the left, where we are.

It's over, Anakin! You lost - I stand above you! (With)

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The main thing is to take care of our soldiers. How long VSUK dies is not important. Khokhlu@hi- they give birth.

[igorbrsv]

They are trying to tear apart our forces and stop our advance along the front. So the decision is correct. They will have many casualties, but they can delay our offensive. Although, if we have enough reserves, then they will simply put down their attack aircraft without achieving anything. They do not have enough strength for a serious operation near Kherson. And they will tickle our nerves

[jetfors_84]

Are we on the offensive? Am I missing something?

[Omskgasmyas]

Come on, read the reports. Ours are chewing through the defenses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in several areas.

[Or me]

In Kyiv they report that the local landing The operation was started by the commander of the Tavria group, Tarnavsky. on the personal initiative of Zelensky’s office,

And the Russian Armed Forces will finish the “operation”. With the defeat of everyone who was sent to the next slaughter by Tarnavsky. Apparently, they wanted to give a gift for the arrival of the dibon to the Middle East (can, but what difference does it make))). But their surprise will result in yet more hectares of cemeteries throughout the non-state.

[rocket757]

You never know in history there are such/similar stories...
We'll see what happens there.

[rotmistr60]

The local landing operation was launched by the commander of the Tavria group, Tarnavsky, on the personal initiative of Zelensky’s office

Zelensky was strongly pressed by the possibility of losing part of Western aid. Forward to the slaughter, as long as the “curators” see movement. Let's hope that Tarnavsky screws up big time, and that losses will again be immeasurable on the part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - this is an indisputable fact.

[carpenter]

The advance was 4 kilometers deep. Groups of 35 and 36 brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces crossed the Dnieper yesterday afternoon and broke through to the villages of Poima and Peschanovka - 5 km east of Aleshki and the Antonovsky Bridge. In Peschanivka they killed two civilians in a car and captured several houses. The operation took place with the support of artillery, FPV drones and support from the railway bridge across the Dnieper. Up to 300 people of the 36th brigade may already be crossing from Sadovoye across the Dnieper to occupy Podstepnoye east of Peschanivka.
In addition, preparations are being made for the landing of UAF marines in the Krynki and Cossack camps - all day yesterday the enemy was pulling equipment towards the Dnieper.
The enemy will actively develop the obvious tactical success of this landing; the question remains - who screwed up this landing? -
militarychronika.ru

[Omskgasmyas]

How are they going to supply them?

[Ross xnumx]

Read the comments.
The impression is that some people write directly from LBS.
I will refrain from making statements, because I cannot understand the full depth of the strategy of the Supreme Command with the General Staff...
Although, I guess we should have started yesterday.
* * *
Russia will not be able to develop under conditions of war and continue it forever.
Judging by the population decline, women will not be able to give birth to soldiers.
* * *
These are the gloomy prospects I see.

[single-n]

Well, in terms of population decline, we are confidently ahead of schedule. Until 2020, 500 thousand died out per year. Now I feel like we’re aiming for a million. Increase in indicators by 2 times. An excellent opportunity for a pen thrower to reward his subordinates. I think that a couple of dozen lard can be allocated for this matter.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Single-n

Well, in terms of population decline, we are confidently ahead of schedule. Until 2020, 500 thousand died out per year.

Did you look at last year and come up with a rule? In fact, from 2010 to 2020, they only increased: about 142,8 million people. up to 146,7 million people
In 2021 and 2022, the population actually lost ~500 thousand people. Dropped to 145,5 million people.
But in 2023 there will be an increase again. And now it’s awesome: in the country in 2023 there will be 146,4 million people. population. So the total is + 900 thousand population growth for the year that has not yet been completed.

Now I feel like we’re aiming for a million.

You smell it right. You can see for yourself - there are almost a million. Only there is no loss - but an increase!

[Esaul]

The entire coastline would have been mined a long time ago; it feels like the leadership of the Russian Armed Forces in the Kherson direction is busy with something else, not the Northern Military District.

[kakvastam]

managed to cross the railway bridge

Bridges seem to have some kind of sacred meaning for our “leadership”.
Not only can they not be bombed, but they cannot also be mined when retreating.

[A2AD]

Bridges seem to have some kind of sacred meaning for our “leadership”.
Not only can they not be bombed, but they cannot also be mined when retreating.

Not like mining. They seem to roam back and forth across this bridge as if they were at home. And no one can decide to stop them. Why then can’t ours do the same on the bridge? Or the Banderaites, unlike us, do not have an order not to touch the bridge under any circumstances. Apparently someone promised them the same thing. These oddities have already exceeded all conceivable and inconceivable limits.

[APASUS]

Standard operation. Enter with a couple of platoons and start a campaign of victory in the media. For a real landing operation, you need pontoon regiments, water transport vehicles, boats and all this must be concentrated in one place, it cannot be hidden.

[Huarabey]

We can only hope that this is a prepared trap for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Otherwise it's a failure. Our newsmen, for the most part, diligently ignored the topic of the accumulation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kherson direction for about a week and a half or two, although the Military Chronicle wrote about this constantly, right up to the date of the supposed landing (they were mistaken by three days). And then there’s this “surprise”.

[VladimirNET]

Quote: 1976AG

We still have enough people who pretend that everything is fine.

And our Podolyak says about this today:
https://rutube.ru/video/a442924034be1d334799d9a52c0f4d96/

[VladimirNET]

Quote: ROSS 42

Russia will not be able to develop under conditions of war and continue it forever.

With a loss ratio of 10:1 and a short length of the defensive line, it can. This is confirmed by economic growth, despite all the sanctions!
Yes, the initial costs (for the production of civil aircraft, etc.) are high, but the economy is developing faster.

As for population decline, this is in any case
will be covered by new regions. That is, by the end of the Northern War, the population of the Russian Federation will increase, and SIGNIFICANTLY.
And if you have to annex all of Ukraine, then the population growth in Russia will be from 10 to 13%.

[Two]

The advance was 4 kilometers deep. Groups of 35 and 36 brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces crossed the Dnieper yesterday afternoon and broke through to the villages of Poima and Peschanovka - 5 km east of Aleshki and the Antonovsky Bridge. In Peschanivka they killed two civilians in a car and captured several houses. The operation took place with the support of artillery, FPV drones and support from the railway bridge across the Dnieper. Up to 300 people of the 36th brigade may already be crossing from Sadovoye across the Dnieper to occupy Podstepnoye east of Peschanivka. In addition, preparations are being made for the landing of UAF marines in the Krynki and Cossack camps - all day yesterday the enemy was pulling equipment towards the Dnieper.
The enemy will actively develop the obvious tactical success of this landing; the question remains - who screwed up this landing? Taken from the military chronicle website.

[petrol cutter]

I don’t need the numbers of brigades, regiments and other platoons.
I am personally interested in how the second army in the world allows such drawdowns?
What kind of conversations were there about some micro-landing forces? Oh, tomorrow the macro-landing forces will go.
And the day after tomorrow Crimea will be analized out of strategic necessity. Like Kherson for example.
But this is temporary. By golly. Such a need has arisen... What are you going to do here?
We'll return it back next month. What problems?!.

[matsur]

Quote: NDR-791

Quote: credo

about the 2nd front in one of many directions

Local operation, same local success... for the same local period.

Cuckoo, cuckoo, how long will it last?
But seriously, we need to take such situations seriously. Or has the lesson of last year been forgotten? The same bravura slogans, and then a cold shower of realization of the regrouping.

[matsur]

Quote: APASUS

Standard operation. Enter with a couple of platoons and start a campaign of victory in the media. For a real landing operation, you need pontoon regiments, water transport vehicles, boats and all this must be concentrated in one place, it cannot be hidden.

We'll see. And at first it seems that it was impossible. And then everyone was like, “why, was that possible?”

[km-21]

Somehow everything is contradictory.
Someone declares the failure of the counterattack,
and some - about the impending crossing of the Dnieper.

[Andrey_10]

I would not trust the entire flow of information; disinformation from the enemy and ours has not been canceled. And although military correspondents are many respected people, it is also very doubtful to trust the reliability of their information 100%.

[INSIGNIS_2]

[Glagol1]

Aviation must be involved. Since we overslept the landing party, which only the dead were not talking about, we must destroy it. And cut off his reinforcements and supplies. If you look at the map, then even a blind person can see the plan of the Sharovars - to introduce the main forces into the breakthrough through the bridgehead, strike south towards Skadovsk, cutting off our forces to the west. If they succeed, it will be a collapse for our army and it will be much harder for Crimea.

[Eugene Zaboy]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces probably decided to get rid of the Marine Corps as a branch of the military. Why do they need the Marine Corps if there is no navy? It’s expensive to disband, but I sent them across the Dnieper to slaughter, and the issue was resolved. This is even cooler than storming Rabotino for 4 months.

[Himalayan]

optimistic reports are rather false

[Omega options]

This means that around Kherson the Ukrainian Armed Forces have brought up serious air defense forces, several Khaymars, and a hundred artillery pieces.
And at this time, from the side they are attacking Tokmak, Berdyansk, Melitopol with missiles.
Everything is done competently and without haste.
The enemy is persistent and motivated.

To stop this we need to introduce reserves, fresh forces.
There are a lot of aircraft, missiles with a range of 500-1000 km.

[Grancer81]

Well, okay, they sent something there and landed it... But how will they supply it? And obviously under fire from artillery and aviation of the Russian Federation...