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Russia has developed a new mobile turret unit “Black Widow” for a Kalashnikov machine gun

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Russia has developed a new mobile turret unit “Black Widow” for a Kalashnikov machine gun

The photo is illustrative



In Russia, a new turret mount for a machine gun has been developed, which allows you to fire at the enemy while being away from weapons at a considerable distance. A development called "Black Widow". which is a small robotic platform, has already been presented at the international exhibition "Interpolitex", taking place these days in Moscow.

The Gran Research and Production Association has developed a mobile installation for attaching machine guns. As representatives of the NGO stated, this turret has its own machine vision, which allows the operator to be at a distance of up to 1,5 km from it. The installation is capable of recognizing enemy manpower and equipment at any time of the day. Moreover, the weight of the installation is only 15 kg; it can be moved by one soldier without exerting extreme effort.

The Black Widow turret can be controlled remotely at a distance of 1,5 km from the operator. The turret is equipped with a machine vision system capable of recognizing enemy personnel and equipment at any time of the day. Without loss of stability, the product weighs about 15 kg and is mobile

- leads TASS words of an NGO representative.

It is stated that the installation is intended for mounting Kalashnikov machine guns, and they plan to use it with these weapons. There is no explanation why the turret was called the “Black Widow,” but over the years this name has already been used for other types of weapons. For example, the Soviet anti-personnel mine PMN bore a similar name for a very long time, but there was no clear explanation for this. The Americans had their own “Black Widow” - a heavy night fighter Northrop P-61 Black Widow, produced during the Second World War. This name has also appeared in modern times, for example, in Thailand they developed an armored personnel carrier with the same name, and in South Africa an autonomous surveillance platform.

The Black Widow can be installed next to a trench and fight in complete safety. The turret is planned to be used together with a Kalashnikov machine gun

- added the developer's representative.
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  1. opposite28
    opposite28 17 October 2023 13: 37
    +6
    The Black Widow turret can be controlled remotely at a distance of 1,5 km from the operator. The turret is equipped with a machine vision system capable of recognizing enemy personnel and equipment at any time of the day. Without loss of stability, the product weighs about 15 kg and is mobile

    - TASS quotes the words of an NGO representative.
    It's good that it's not "House in the Village" wassat
    1. Hypertension
      Hypertension 17 October 2023 13: 57
      +11
      Quote: oppozite28
      It's good that it's not "House in the Village"

      "House in the Village" already exists.

      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 17 October 2023 14: 50
        +2
        The photo is illustrative
        fucking "turret"... the author should be slammed.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 17 October 2023 15: 05
          +2

          The news is such that you don’t understand how to react to it?
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 17 October 2023 19: 07
            0
            Quote: Alex777
            The news is such that you don’t understand how to react to it?

            Here is what the author writes:
            There is no explanation why the turret was called “Black Widow”...
            And they called it simply: “American Widow” - and there would be no need to rack your brains!
            And ordinary Reiner would think about it - Is it worth throwing a barrel at Russia? And what awaits him here... Yes
  2. novel66
    novel66 17 October 2023 13: 39
    +3
    What is machine vision? OLS or radar? Or an eye like the Terminator?
    1. svp67
      svp67 17 October 2023 13: 44
      +2
      Quote: novel xnumx
      What is machine vision? OLS or radar?

      Yes, most likely a television with a night channel (IR or thermal imager)
      1. Peter1First
        Peter1First 17 October 2023 14: 01
        +5
        This is of course a good thing, for example, border guards will definitely need this, but not on the front end! At best, this thing will survive a couple of enemy attacks - the battery will run out, the cartridges will run out, and it’s no longer safe to recharge it - the installation site will definitely be under enemy surveillance!
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 17 October 2023 14: 15
          +2
          Quote from: Peter1First
          At best, this thing will survive a couple of enemy attacks - the battery will run out, the cartridges will run out, and it’s no longer safe to recharge it - the installation site will definitely be under enemy surveillance!

          Even if one attack is repelled, especially if the enemy hits the installation with artillery fire, then the installation will be justified. And for an anti-tank missile system it’s absolutely excellent. It seems like an elementary thing to understand...
        2. 78bor1973
          78bor1973 17 October 2023 15: 25
          0
          You can also put a flamethrower on the platform, which is great help for assault troops!
        3. novel66
          novel66 18 October 2023 09: 42
          0
          Come on, they’ll drop an 80 mm mine nearby, and it’ll be damned, even if it just falls on its side, and even if it knocks out a machine’s eye...
        4. novel66
          novel66 18 October 2023 09: 42
          0
          Come on, they’ll drop an 80 mm mine nearby, and it’ll be damned, even if it just falls on its side, and even if it knocks out a machine’s eye...
    2. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 17 October 2023 13: 49
      +2
      Apparently there is a typo in the second letter. We need Y, not A....
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 17 October 2023 19: 12
        +2
        Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
        Apparently there was a typo in the second letter.
        Do you know for sure that there may be a typo in the LETTER? I usually come across typos in the WORD, but to make it in the LETTER - you need to be a very subtle connoisseur of your native language!!! laughing
        1. novel66
          novel66 19 October 2023 08: 23
          0
          Is not dotting the ë a typo in the letter?
    3. stankow
      stankow 17 October 2023 14: 09
      +2
      Machine vision is computer recognition of targets in an image of any range.
    4. guest
      guest 17 October 2023 14: 53
      +1
      Quote: novel xnumx
      What is machine vision?

      Well, actually, automatic identification of all sorts of objects, in this context we are more likely talking about the enemy and his equipment. Theoretically, then fire can be opened on the enemy without the participation of the operator.
  3. svp67
    svp67 17 October 2023 13: 41
    +4
    Development called "Black Widow"
    Hmm... what kind of sycophancy to the West... It’s not called in Russian, not in the Orthodox way...
    1. Elysium
      Elysium 17 October 2023 13: 48
      +3
      The West has nothing to do with it. In Kalmyk, the karakurt, the most poisonous spider in Russia, is called the “black widow.”
    2. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 17 October 2023 13: 50
      +5
      This is not in front of the West, but in front of Africa. This is in honor of Mandela's widow.
    3. Esaul
      Esaul 17 October 2023 13: 52
      +4
      It should have been called "Well, wait a minute"
    4. Neo-9947
      Neo-9947 17 October 2023 13: 59
      +2
      Let them at least call him Ivan Ivanovich, as long as it’s useful.
    5. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 17 October 2023 14: 24
      -3
      Quote: svp67
      Development called "Black Widow"
      Hmm... what kind of sycophancy to the West... It’s not called in Russian, not in the Orthodox way...

      It should have been called "Carrier".
    6. guest
      guest 17 October 2023 14: 55
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Not in Russian

      Why? In Western comics, the black widow is Russian. laughing
      1. svp67
        svp67 17 October 2023 22: 49
        +1
        Quote: guest
        In Western comics

        Exactly IN THE WESTERN...
  4. Esaul
    Esaul 17 October 2023 13: 47
    +2
    Wow, not so long ago I wrote that it would be nice to do such a thing, to place them at the trenches instead of soldiers. This way, shooting accuracy will increase (some people just shoot blindly) and lives will be saved.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 17 October 2023 14: 04
      +2
      Wow, not so long ago I wrote that it would be nice to do such a thing, to place them at the trenches instead of soldiers.
      We also need an analogue for Cliff/Cord. To complement this development.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 17 October 2023 14: 26
        -4
        Quote: abrakadabre
        We also need an analogue for Cliff/Cord. To complement this development.

        Nemchura had a better Hitler saw.
      2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 17 October 2023 19: 02
        0
        No, PC is just right here. A large-caliber machine gun has such recoil that it will overturn this cart with the first burst.
      3. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 17 October 2023 19: 02
        0
        No, PC is just right here. A large-caliber machine gun has such recoil that it will overturn this cart with the first burst.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 17 October 2023 14: 05
      +5
      Quote: Esaul
      Wow, not so long ago I wrote that it would be nice to do such a thing, to place them at the trenches instead of soldiers.

      We talked about such a thing in the 90s...During the first Chechen war...
      1. Esaul
        Esaul 18 October 2023 13: 47
        0
        Now it is possible to make such a turret with AI elements; for example, it can work in three modes:
        1. Recognition of threats and their highlighting (like faces are highlighted with rectangles on a camera camera). The operator himself controls the targets and fires from a safe shelter.
        2. P. 1 plus automatic targeting. The operator here only produces fire.
        3. P. 2 plus fully automatic firing. The turret in this mode can operate without an operator at all, when he is asleep.
  5. Dimy4
    Dimy4 17 October 2023 13: 48
    0
    Did it seem like the picture was different at first?
  6. cast iron
    cast iron 17 October 2023 13: 57
    +2
    I remember back in the late 90s, early 00s, in some TV program dedicated to military affairs, domestic remote automatic turrets were already shown. Which can be relatively quickly installed in positions. That is, already in 2000 there were similar things. But 23 years have passed, and they are not in the army. And it won't be until the next high-tech war. You'll see.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 17 October 2023 14: 27
      -2
      Quote: cast iron
      I remember back in the late 90s, early 00s, in some TV program dedicated to military affairs, domestic remote automatic turrets were already shown. Which can be relatively quickly installed in positions. That is, already in 2000 there were similar things. But 23 years have passed, and they are not in the army. And it won't be until the next high-tech war. You'll see.

      Heh, they showed a lot there...
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 17 October 2023 15: 31
        +1
        However, the products have already been developed. In the form of stationary machine gun points with a barbette dug into the ground, covered either with an armored cap or with drop-down flaps to hide and camouflage the machine gun. It looked much cooler than in the movie "Aliens". Such things had to be installed at least on the border in camouflaged positions.
        1. vadivm59
          vadivm59 17 October 2023 19: 42
          +2
          there was such a thing UOS GORCHAK (universal fire structure). But where is it?
          1. cast iron
            cast iron 19 October 2023 09: 58
            0
            I think that’s what they showed about her in that program. Is very similar. I don’t remember exactly - it was many years ago.
  7. dump22
    dump22 17 October 2023 13: 59
    +4
    Moreover, the weight of the installation is only 15 kg


    Where on the front line will they get the power supply for this turret?
    There is a suspicion that the weight of the batteries (or even the generator) for it is much more than the specified 15 kg.
  8. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 17 October 2023 14: 03
    +1
    There is no explanation why the turret was called "Black Widow",

    Probably similar to the live prototype. Only there the spider eats the male after mating...I can’t even imagine here...When 95% of the ammunition is consumed, does it really open fire to kill the operator? belay
    Or because of this:
    The black widow is not aggressive towards humans and bites them only for self-defense in a hopeless situation (if, for example, you crush a spider with your hand). Black widow bites are dangerous and cause a painful condition known as latrodectism. An hour after the bite, a neurotoxin called α-latrotoxin spreads through the victim's lymphatic system. An extremely painful spasm of the abdominal muscles occurs. Vomiting, profuse sweating, and thirst are possible. However, with proper treatment, the disease usually ends in complete recovery.


    * * *
    The development is necessary... It is necessary to take into account the possibility of self-detonation due to outside influence... You never know? And you can change the password as much as you want...
  9. Leshak
    Leshak 17 October 2023 14: 09
    +1
    ...a small robotic platform has already been presented as part of the international exhibition "Interpolitech", taking place these days in Moscow.

    A lot of interesting things appear at exhibitions. But not everything reaches the actual supplies to the troops. Here's the rub. request
    1. mag nit
      mag nit 17 October 2023 14: 34
      -1
      This "widow" will be charged as much as for a tank. It’s costly for the Russian Defense Ministry, which means they’ll sell it to foreigners. Business comes first.
  10. faiver
    faiver 17 October 2023 14: 25
    +2
    I don’t understand - is a “mobile unit” a self-propelled unit or what?
  11. JD1979
    JD1979 17 October 2023 14: 26
    -2
    A new turret for a machine gun has been developed in Russia

    Shaw again?
    Why the turret was called “Black Widow”, no explanation

    There are only two options:
    1. Lack of imagination and taste
    2. The name was invented by someone's schoolboy - they love such nicknames, which give them virtual coolness.
    As representatives of the NGO stated, this turret has its own machine vision, which allows the operator to be at a distance of up to 1,5 km from it

    To get to us, check to see if you meet our criteria: “through the bed” or “mom/dad’s daughter/idiot”.
    1. mag nit
      mag nit 17 October 2023 14: 40
      +2
      What's unclear here? The name was invented by one of the “royal wolves”.
  12. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 17 October 2023 14: 26
    +3
    Quote: novel xnumx
    What is machine vision? OLS or radar? Or an eye like the Terminator?

    When the machine detects a silhouette and makes a selection based on the downloaded database. Then it transmits the data to the operator, and he finally decides what it is, a bush or a person, etc. Most likely visually, it highlights the target with a frame. The enemy thinks that he is not visible, but the machine discovered him a long time ago, singled him out and is waiting for a command to eliminate him.
    Typically, for such purposes, neural networks are trained through simulations based on thousands or millions of options. Americans usually do this.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 17 October 2023 14: 32
      0
      Quote: Mint Gingerbread
      Typically, for such purposes, neural networks are trained through simulations based on thousands or millions of options. Americans usually do this.

      Gingerbread, have you played too much with toys?
      1. Mint Gingerbread
        Mint Gingerbread 17 October 2023 14: 38
        +1
        Maybe in your spare time you will be interested in technology in the world and how it happens? Of course, I could be wrong, and here they could have followed a different principle. Open sources indicated foreign experiences in this direction. request At least take an interest in how the advanced autopilot works in the same ordinary civilian cars and how obstacles and other objects are recognized.
        1. stelltok
          stelltok 17 October 2023 17: 00
          0
          You wrote everything correctly. Yes. This is machine vision. ML.Machine learning and all that.
  13. kakvastam
    kakvastam 17 October 2023 14: 40
    0
    What kind of elephant is this? About two meters long, one and a half meters high, it rumbles, apparently, also notably.
    With such visibility, his life time will be good, if not negative...

    Or is there a completely wrong toy in the photo, in the best traditions of VO?
    1. guest
      guest 17 October 2023 15: 08
      0
      Quote: kakvastam
      Or is there a completely wrong toy in the photo, in the best traditions of VO?

      It is not excluded.
  14. mitlantecutli_zen
    mitlantecutli_zen 17 October 2023 15: 05
    0
    También es alto el Black Widow y por tanto fácil de acertar por un misil o cañón anticarro.
  15. A17ttt
    A17ttt 17 October 2023 15: 58
    0
    The direction is certainly interesting.
    One caveat - the caliber seems to be 7,62 and weighs 7,5 kg with a bipod.
    While Kord is 12 gauge

    At the same time, it was even more interesting to place “Kord” and “AGS-30” on a single base.
  16. Emperor_Alive
    Emperor_Alive 17 October 2023 16: 31
    0
    Why the turret was called “Black Widow”, no explanation


    Logical name. Without a shooter, a machine gun is a loner that kills oncoming people.
  17. bone1
    bone1 17 October 2023 18: 27
    0
    Everything is mixed up - a robotic platform and a machine gun turret that doesn't need to be mobile
  18. Sergey Aleksandrovich
    Sergey Aleksandrovich 17 October 2023 19: 09
    +2
    A good thing in defense, in stationary positions. Even the option of supplying power and control via cable would also be acceptable.
  19. old rats
    old rats 18 October 2023 02: 29
    0
    No photo of this installation, no clear description of the device.
    What are the prospects for mass production? Have they been tested in reality?
    Nothing about the article.
  20. old rats
    old rats 18 October 2023 02: 31
    0
    To be honest, I have already lost count of such innovations.
    Where are they all? Only a few units reach mass production...
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 23 October 2023 02: 20
      0
      Calm down. In Russia, over the past 20 years, officials have only learned to tell beautiful fairy tales about how great everything will be. At the same time, without doing ANYTHING and not being responsible for your market at all.
  21. Alexander Kuksin
    Alexander Kuksin 18 October 2023 13: 05
    +1
    Likewise, if something falls nearby, a tank may fall on its side. But in security, at night, a very necessary thing! She doesn’t need to sleep and doesn’t make her sleepy. In general, if used correctly and not abandoned, attacking tanks can be a useful resource.
  22. vadivm59
    vadivm59 18 October 2023 19: 41
    0
    how many of these robots were created before! on the "star" channel they only talked about them. and where are they all? I mean the battlefield. no. only the sapper URANUS works. and the rest are PSHIC!
  23. vadivm59
    vadivm59 18 October 2023 19: 41
    0
    how many of these robots were created before! on the "star" channel they only talked about them. and where are they all? I mean the battlefield. no. only the sapper URANUS works. and the rest are PSHIC!
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 23 October 2023 02: 21
      0
      Don't rock the boat and silently continue to vote for the storytellers from EdRa.