Peskov on relations between the Russian Federation and Poland: it is absurd that two neighboring countries are so hostile to each other

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Peskov on relations between the Russian Federation and Poland: it is absurd that two neighboring countries are so hostile to each other

It is absurd that two neighboring countries are so hostile to each other. But, alas, this is factually confirmed.

This is how the head of the Kremlin press service, Dmitry Peskov, spoke about relations between the Russian Federation and Poland during the “One Belt, One Road” forum taking place in Beijing.



We find it absurd that two neighboring states are so hostile to each other, and it is not our fault

- he said.

The Kremlin press secretary noted with regret that the Poles do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them. Moreover, on all issues concerning Russia, Warsaw usually takes a hostile position towards Moscow.

The Poles take a very, very hostile position on all issues that concern us

- the press secretary of the Russian President complained.

Peskov said that the Russian leadership does not like this situation. However, normalization of relations between the two countries is not expected in the near future.

Now there are probably no segments in the Polish establishment that would openly or even covertly hint at the need to restore relations with the Russian Federation

- noted the head of the Kremlin press service.

Previously, a columnist for the Polish newspaper Myśl Polska, Bogdan Kulyas, argued that Poles’ hatred of Russia not only does nothing good for them, but also harms them. He criticized the policy of official Warsaw for the fact that its goal is to demonstrate extreme hatred of Moscow and boundless devotion to Washington and Kyiv.
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  1. +3
    17 October 2023 12: 40
    ***
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    - The first section of the Commonwealth in 1772,
    - The second section of the Commonwealth in 1793,
    —Third partition of the Commonwealth in 1795;
    - Congress of Vienna in 1815, sometimes referred to as the fourth partition of Poland;
    - The non-aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union in 1939 is called either the fourth or the fifth partition of Poland ...



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    1. +3
      17 October 2023 12: 46
      It is absurd that two neighboring countries are so hostile to each other.
      And Ukraine? Eh! Slavs...
      1. 0
        17 October 2023 12: 52
        The Polish hyena barks, the Russian caravan moves on.
      2. 0
        17 October 2023 14: 42
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        And Ukraine? Eh! Slavs.

        Is it only the Slavs? The entire history of Europe is a series of endless wars and there would be no one, namely neighboring countries among themselves. Now they seem to have united under the iron hand of an overseas master. But everyone sees that the hegemon’s grip is weakening, the European Union is bursting at the seams, borders are being re-erected and closed. Rest assured that as soon as the US grip weakens completely, centuries-old European grievances will immediately surface. It seems to me that Poland and Germany will be the first to fight.
      3. -1
        17 October 2023 15: 18
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        And Ukraine?

        The list there is longer: Finland, Georgia and of course 3 Baltic mongrels.
      4. 0
        18 October 2023 17: 53
        Russians have a smart soul, Westerners have a kind mind. But the Poles and now the Ukrainians have gotten into the wrong place! The result is stupid souls with evil minds... Easy prey for demons.
    2. +12
      17 October 2023 12: 52
      And the reason for all these divisions is the centuries-old struggle between the two empires for dominance in Eastern Europe. This struggle went on with varying degrees of success, because not only the Russians were in Warsaw, but the Poles were also in Moscow, and twice. However, ultimately this struggle always ended in the defeat of Poland and the loss of its territories. The reason for this is that same ambition. The arrogance and arrogance of the Polish elite. She did not respect the conquered peoples, considered and called them cattle. This is why Poland did not become an empire, it never will become one, and this is why the Poles strongly dislike Russians. Which differ from them in that they are RESPECTED by all the peoples who live with them in the same country. That's why Russia is big.
      1. 0
        17 October 2023 20: 12
        Quote: Pavel73
        Poles were in Moscow, twice

        1610-1612, taking advantage of the Russian Troubles - I agree. But the fact that they climbed into the throne together with Napoleon in 1812 is not their merit.
        They also ride a horse, but honors are given to the rider! negative
    3. +5
      17 October 2023 13: 02
      After WWII, Poland became very fat due to the desires of the Leader of All Nations, Stalin, and in the European Union it also became greedy. The little pig has grown up, grown ugly, and is ready for slaughter. It's time to cut. am It's time for the next section.
      1. +2
        17 October 2023 20: 19
        Quote: Bearded
        It's time for the next section.

        It seems that the people have lost their minds: they are seriously demanding “reparations” from Germany for the victims of WWII... But at the same time they are silent about the German territories acquired as a result of it. Scholz will leave, a new “Adenauer” will come and the “iron kaput” will begin! And there will be no one to stand up for the lords... We certainly won’t join in with these arrogant people against the Deutschers. Shaved, merge, the French too...
        So the next redistribution with the division of Pan's estate is a matter of the near future.
        IMHO.
    4. 0
      17 October 2023 13: 18
      -Stop repenting/making excuses for things you didn’t do.
      -Stop cajoling/giving.
      Since the times of the USSR, neighbors have formed the opinion that Russia ALWAYS owes them.
      Today we are seeing a certain paradox - society seems to be (?) progressing, but the unit of society seems to be degrading.
      There are only TWO options - you are a master, I am a slave. If I am a master, you are a slave.
      There is no third option. These are the realities today.
  2. +2
    17 October 2023 12: 40
    However, normalization of relations between the two countries is not expected in the near future.
    Did Peskov skip history at school? What other relationships could there be? what
    1. -1
      17 October 2023 12: 53
      There are also sexual relationships))) with nuance)))
      1. +1
        17 October 2023 20: 22
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        There are also sexual relationships))) with nuance)))

        Colleague! You are slightly confusing the concepts...What you are talking about is called “intercourse”, not a relationship. laughing
  3. +6
    17 October 2023 12: 45
    The Kremlin press secretary noted with regret that the Poles do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them.


    Why didn’t the Kremlin press secretary note with regret that the Finns don’t like Russians and don’t want to be friends with them?
    Why didn’t the Kremlin press secretary note with regret that the Balts don’t like Russians and don’t want to be friends with them?
    Why didn’t the Kremlin press secretary note with regret that Ukrainians don’t like Russians and don’t want to be friends with them?
    Why didn’t the Kremlin press secretary note with regret that the Bulgarians do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them?
    Why didn’t the Kremlin press secretary note with regret that the Kazakhs do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them?
    .........................................
    So the Poles or the Polish authorities? Russians or Russian authorities?
    And here it’s not at all about the sign, beds and furniture...
    Does the Russian government love its people who live on handouts?
    As it turned out, raising the personal income tax scale for millionaires is stupid; it is more cost-effective to tax the deposits of Russians, the interest on which does not EVEN cover the INFLATION interest...
    1. -6
      17 October 2023 13: 04
      The Kremlin press secretary noted with regret that the Poles do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them.

      and the Russians dutifully continue to buy a bunch of Polish consumer goods...
    2. -1
      17 October 2023 13: 19
      We are talking about the effectiveness of the measure. The progressive personal income tax scale is good where shadow employment is close to zero, and here we have 1 percent of the working population. And another 20 percent with a gray salary. So why do we need this progressive scale if it a priori will not work?! Only if you promote yourself before the elections - this is possible!
    3. +3
      17 October 2023 13: 37
      Ross42 - you also add the Anglo-Saxons, Czechs and Scandinavians to this. But about the Bulgarians and Kazakhs - this is your wishful thinking. And here everything is easy to explain, all these guys, well, except for the Anglo-Saxons, regularly received their... whatever the person is called differently for his aggression and arrogance. And the Anglo-Saxons - we don’t perceive them as the navel of the earth, what do they think to themselves, and if anything happens, we can burn them all. They don’t like you for this, but they are afraid of you.
      1. +1
        17 October 2023 20: 29
        Quote: Glagol1
        everything is easy to explain, all these guys, well, except for the Anglo-Saxons, regularly got punched in the face.

        There was no point in coming to us!
  4. +7
    17 October 2023 12: 45
    Nothing absurd. Is this when Poland had friends as neighbors? It was in vain that they shared it regularly. Hyena, she is a hyena in Europe too.
  5. +2
    17 October 2023 12: 49
    The Poles are not a bad people; among others, they would be much better “cousins” for us than any Bulgarians or Slovaks. But they still have phantom pains from the fact that Poland not only did not become a collector of East Slavic lands, but also the Republic of Poland simply failed shamefully, due to the oligarchic internal chaos. And they would like to forget what happened 200 years ago, but the Anglo-Saxons skillfully turn them against the grain.
  6. +5
    17 October 2023 12: 53
    This figure at least read the history of Russian-Polish relations on Wikipedia before opening his purgomet.
  7. +3
    17 October 2023 12: 54
    The logs have a classic complex of under-empire... By the 17th century, they were one step away from it, but here, as always, everything was spoiled by the oaths of the Muscovites. It’s the phantom pains that torment you. And it’s impossible to admit that it’s not the Russians who are to blame for the collapse of hopes, but their own carelessness, greed and extremeness - it’s impossible, because it’s very insulting.. So they splash saliva out of anger at all their neighbors to this day..
    1. -2
      17 October 2023 13: 12
      Polenyev has a classic complex of under-empire...


      This is an interesting idea about the under-empire complex.

      In the 20th century, we were practically an empire, but alas, the insidious Americans ruined everything. It’s the phantom pains that torment you. But it’s impossible to admit that it’s not the Americans who are to blame for the collapse of hopes, but their own carelessness and greed, because it’s really offensive...
      1. +2
        17 October 2023 15: 36
        We were an Empire after all, and for hundreds of years. Unlike logs. And none of the sane people blames the mattress makers for the fact that we fell in love with her. Because there is no one else’s fault in this except our own.
        1. -2
          17 October 2023 18: 05
          We were an Empire after all, and for hundreds of years.


          Is that what I wrote?
          Moreover, unlike the Poles, our peak in building our own empire was not 4 hundred years ago, but less than 50 years ago. Witnesses of this peak are still alive.
          Therefore, our current complex of “under-empire” is much more acute and therefore our pain is much stronger.

          There is no one else's fault in this except our own.


          It's nice to read a sane person. Unfortunately, this is not a very common view, at least on this site for sure.
  8. -1
    17 October 2023 12: 55
    Muscovite Gorbachev surrendered Poland to the West - is it not his fault? Whose fault is it that the Russian Federation and Ukraine are “so hostile to each other”? Is the Moscow author of the current president not to blame?
    As much as Europe dislikes Russia, our government loves Europe. There are so many options: you can be jealous (expensive), you can wait for the outcome (the exes, Chubais are already reaching out..), revolution, miracle...
    1. -1
      17 October 2023 20: 36
      Quote: Alexander Ra
      Moskvich Gorbachev

      Well, why are you insulting the Krasnodar combine operator so much???
      Moreover, the “best German” of 1991! Yes
      Not good...The dead man will definitely be offended by you...and the Muscovites, by the way, too! laughing
  9. +3
    17 October 2023 13: 00
    i.e., this hand-kisser... actually places half the responsibility for this on Russia... If I were Putin, I would have fired him five years ago.
    He's really annoying already.
    1. -1
      17 October 2023 13: 06
      , this hand kisser

      Perhaps he is one of the watchers, along with Elei and Deniska...
  10. 0
    17 October 2023 13: 04
    We find it absurd that two neighboring states are so hostile to each other
    There is no way around or correcting what was obviously destined by fate hundreds of years ago. It’s just that today we need to treat the Poles, the Balts, and today’s Ukrainians the way they deserve it, and not according to the principle “we’re not like that.” Yes, they are not like that, and therefore the enemy should be treated as an enemy, and not as someone who tomorrow, for some reason, will begin to become “friends”.
    1. +2
      17 October 2023 20: 42
      Quote: rotmistr60
      the enemy should be treated as an enemy, and not as someone who tomorrow, for whatever reason, will begin to become “friends”.

      “Hitlers come and go. But the German people remain” (I. Stalin)
      But the leader was right. The GDR is proof of this. But Gorbi-Muscovite leaked them to suit his own selfish interests. Moreover, the Anglo-Saxons were against the unification of Germany...
      Truly - Dwarfs on the shoulders of GIANTS! am
  11. 0
    17 October 2023 13: 04
    Poles do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them


    And none of our neighbors like us at all.
    In the best case scenario, they tolerate us in order to use us for their own purposes.

    It’s time to understand long ago that if you are trying to build an empire, then you can forget about the sympathies of your neighbors.
  12. AB
    -2
    17 October 2023 13: 04
    Someone please give the mustachioed man a history textbook. The Slavs have always had difficult relations with the Polish elites.
  13. -1
    17 October 2023 13: 06
    Quote from: dump22
    Poles do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them


    And none of our neighbors like us at all.
    In the best case scenario, they tolerate us in order to use us for their own purposes.

    It’s time to understand long ago that if you are trying to build an empire, then you can forget about the sympathies of your neighbors.

    we have Ukrainian-fascist neighbors and we can’t eat for nothing..NATO cocksuckers
    1. 0
      17 October 2023 14: 09
      Well, you don’t need that, but Peskov regrets the bad relationship:
      Peskov said that the Russian leadership does not like this situation.
  14. +1
    17 October 2023 13: 09
    Peskov on relations between the Russian Federation and Poland: it is absurd that two neighboring countries are so hostile to each other

    Whether it's good neighborly relations between Russia and Ukraine!
  15. -3
    17 October 2023 13: 13
    *The Kremlin press secretary noted with regret that the Poles do not like Russians and do not want to be friends with them. Moreover, on all issues concerning Russia, Warsaw usually takes a hostile position towards Moscow*.
    For the first time I agree with the guarantor...that this blizzard is sweeping.
    he doesn’t even know that in the Kremlin, where he comfortably placed his ass, there were once Poles.
    The series *Godunov* would watch something, since he has no idea about history and the Time of Troubles.
  16. 0
    17 October 2023 13: 28
    Well, in anti-Sovietism, the Russian enemies of the USSR are united with the Polish enemies of the USSR. “Breasts” rush to defend them when we talk about the Soviet period.
  17. +1
    17 October 2023 13: 34
    While Polish citizens who survived the Second World War were alive, they treated us accordingly, but now there is a new generation and they don’t care who liberated, who helped restore the country, and there are plenty of Western advisers! winked
    1. +3
      17 October 2023 14: 07
      While Polish citizens who survived the Second World War were alive, we were treated accordingly


      Even then they were already quite hostile.

      Just compare the numbers:
      50 thousand Poles fought in the pro-Soviet “Ludova Army”.
      More than 350 thousand Poles fought in the pro-Western Home Army.
  18. 0
    17 October 2023 14: 23
    Myślę, że między zwykłym Polakim i Rosjaninem nie ma nienawiści. Mamy wiele cech wspólnych. Słowiańskie geny. Dzielą nas władze. I wcale nie jest tak, że winna jest tylko jedna strona. Pytanie jest kto steruje tymi władzami. Pytanie retoryczne. Ponieważ nie ma takiej bramy której nie przejdzie osioł obładowany złotem ....
    1. +2
      17 October 2023 21: 01
      Pan Basior is right. In the old days we were good friends...until 1999. And even on a simplified visa we went to Poland, as residents of the Kaliningrad region. And then Poland, under the leadership of Pan Kaczynski, fell into the abyss and became an anti-Russian outpost in Europe. And that's bad for everyone. And above all for Poland. It may become a victim of the political ambitions of its leadership. We definitely won’t mess with the Poles like we did with the Ukrainians. And even all of NATO will not help you then.
      AHA.
  19. +2
    17 October 2023 14: 32
    Poles are strange people. When you ask them why they hate Russia so much, without hesitation they answer abstractly, “for what happened.” Without even asking the question about what they had with everyone there in Europe, that Russia is not even close.
  20. 0
    17 October 2023 15: 37
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    There are also sexual relationships))) with nuance)))


    That is why it is necessary to divide the words of the mustachioed “purgon carrier” (as Putin calls him).
    Peskov defends stubborn Russophobe scum, such as the strapon Sobchak, or Urgant (he recently spoke at Moscow State University).

    https://t.me/RDS_official_smi/1110
  21. 0
    17 October 2023 16: 07
    Let the last White Guard go and kiss grandma's hand. Or some other places....
  22. -2
    17 October 2023 18: 41
    Are we hostile? - These are Russophobes.
  23. 0
    18 October 2023 10: 30
    About the Polish king Poniatowski.
    "It is difficult to radically heal a brain damaged by constant illusions."
    From a letter from the real Privy Councilor Caspar Saldern to Catherine II.
  24. -1
    18 October 2023 13: 55
    I wonder if in this case the Presidential Press Secretary is voicing the President’s thoughts or his own? And if it’s his own, then who is he to say anything at all?
    And in general, Peskov has been saying a lot lately, which does not always fit with Putin’s words.

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