Will there be a contract army in Ukraine?

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In December, 2012, the Ukrainian president, V. Yanukovych, congratulating the servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on their professional holiday, announced that the conscription would be stopped and the transition to a contract basis was fully implemented. At the same time, the head of state was more cautious this time and did not specify exactly when all this would happen. Earlier, we recall, he spoke more specifically on this survey, although this did not affect his practical decision. Even in his election program, Yanukovych said that the transition of the armed forces to a contract basis would begin in 2011, but as it became apparent over time, these were nothing more than empty words.

At the same time, the date of refusal from the annual conscription to the Ukrainian army is well known: according to the statement by ex-defense minister Dmitry Salamatin, which was made the day after Yanukovych’s statement, the Ukrainian armed forces will switch to a contract from January 1 of 2014. Salamatin specified that certain economic and financial prerequisites are necessary for the implementation of such a transition, but expressed confidence that the task would still be completed. A little earlier, similar promises were made by the Party of Regions in the election program. However, it is not entirely clear what her representatives meant when they decorated their brochures with photos of a Russian soldier ...

But after all, the most important thing in all of this is that all these promises, which have been repeatedly given, are pure science fiction, and anyone who knows at least a little what is actually happening in the Ukrainian army cannot understand this. And the date of the refusal to call up and transfer the army to contract recruitment from January 1, 2014, is also another bluff, which appeared last spring.

They did not lag behind the head of state and representatives of the military department. True, they also indicated different terms. So, for example, in 2011, the Minister of War, Mikhail Yezhel, announced that the contract army in Ukraine would appear around the year of 2015, noting that this process was long and difficult. As an example, he cited the United States of America, which, with all its possibilities, spent on the transition to a professional army for about 10 years.

In the same year, Colonel-General G. Pedchenko (Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff in 2010-2012), stated that the Ukrainian army, taking into account the economic possibilities of the country, would switch to contract recruitment until 2025. However, he noted that the 2025 year did not arise by chance, and that this was due to a number of factors. First of all, the transfer of troops to a contractual basis was prevented by a very limited logistical and financial support, which made it impossible to create the necessary motivational conditions and motives for Ukrainian citizens, which would induce them to consciously enter military service under a contract.

Pedchenko also stated that, after analyzing the forecast indicators of state budget expenditures for defense up to 2023, and taking into account the minimal need for funding to perform tasks aimed at professionalizing the army, the military department concluded that the previously declared transition to the contract principle of recruitment Ukrainian armed forces until 2015 will not be able to perform ...

In the spring of 2012, the words of the Chief of the General Staff were recorded in official documents, which determined that by the 2015-2017 years the armed forces would be staffed with contract soldiers of only 80-85 percent and that the full transition would be possible only by 2025.

Such figures look more or less realistic, although even now it is necessary to start creating the necessary conditions for the number of contract servicemen in the Ukrainian army to increase, but nothing is being done ...

Then, in May of last year, the new chief of the General Staff, General V. Zaman, during one of his speeches in the Verkhovna Rada, all of a sudden, said that the Ukrainian army already in 2014 would give up the compulsory conscription forces on a contract basis. Initially, such a statement caused bewilderment and even shock, but when the Party of Regions introduced such a statement into its election program, everything immediately fell into place: it just became obvious that this was nothing more than another “divorce.” True, it is not entirely clear why such statements were made by the military, who should stay away from politics ...

At the same time, it is extremely interesting, how does the president intend to put his promises into practice? In October 2012 of the year, he, for the umpteenth time, stated that in the near future, the Ukrainian army would switch to a contract basis, noting that at present more than 50 percent of servicemen are serving in the armed forces under contract, and it is obvious that this is a big success. But if he really knew what was happening in the army, there would be no reason for his joy. Indeed, as statistics show, a similar percentage of contract soldiers is observed in the troops from at least 2008 onwards and does not increase, but on the contrary: in the first year of Yanukovich’s presidency, he even dropped by two percent, from 53 to 51 percent. The reform and permanent reduction of the armed forces, which has been held for more than a year, cannot save the situation: contract servicemen come to serve, but very soon they realize that they have made a big mistake and try to stop their service as quickly as possible using all available methods and techniques.

And there is nothing surprising in this. Judge for yourself: a soldier who serves in the Ukrainian army under a contract receives a little more than 1,5 thousands of hryvnias. For such money, you can only serve from complete hopelessness. And this amount will not increase, because the money comes from nowhere, and in order to understand this, it is enough to familiarize yourself with the new military budget, which is not enough even to keep the military personnel at least at the same level as last year.

Military experts also unanimously assert that the state is not yet ready for the transition of the army to a contract basis. At its core, the contract army must be highly professional in order to respond quickly to challenges. And this is extremely problematic, because a paid contract soldier with outdated weapons will not be able to increase combat readiness in any way, because it will perform modern military tasks with such weapons will not be able to. In addition, at the moment most of the contractors are immigrants from villages, without education, who were unclaimed in other areas of activity. Moreover, as experts note, with such salaries, it will not be a professional army, but a lumpen army, which will be completely useless. Therefore, it is obvious that neither the current government nor the future can seriously talk about the creation of a professional contract army in Ukraine.

Thus, there may be several explanations for such tales of the government regarding contract service: either the Ukrainian government cannot move away from the elections, and is so carried away with promises that it continues to distribute them further by inertia, or the New Year promises Ukrainians so much “good” that they will go to the army en masse, just not to die of hunger ...

Materials used:
http://flot2017.com/posts/new/otkuda_u_janukovicha_vozmetsja_kontraktnaja_armija
http://www.iarex.ru/news/32718.html
http://zn.ua/POLITICS/yanukovich_poobeschal_vypolnit_svoe_predvybornoe_obeschanie.html
http://ak-inzt.net/opinion/1366-18-10-2012
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  1. Skavron
    -18
    9 January 2013 10: 39
    Will appear В Ukraine contract army?

    Before writing articles about the army, you need to learn the language you are writing in.
    "In Ukraine" is used only in colloquial speech ...
    1. +11
      9 January 2013 10: 51
      Quote: Skavron
      Before writing articles about the army, you need to learn the language you are writing in.

      This is Russian sayit !!! And here they write in Russian and what they say in Ukraine, so in Ukraine hi
      1. Skavron
        -11
        9 January 2013 11: 06
        Yes, at least some site, they write in RUSSIAN? That's right ... that means they should write correctly and without errors. (Well, at least in the title) hi
        1. +9
          9 January 2013 12: 42
          Russian language rules in Russia cannot be established by decisions of the Ukrainian government
          1. Skavron
            -7
            9 January 2013 13: 45
            The rules of the language are the same for everyone, and the fact that the government of the Russian Federation does not want to understand the difference between the meanings of the words "territory" and "state" is already a purely political decision.
            1. Svobodny
              +5
              9 January 2013 14: 17
              "In the Ukrainian state," but "in the Ukraine." Everything is correct: noun "state" is combined with the preposition "in", while noun "Ukraine" demands the pretext "on" before itself.
          2. Svobodny
            -1
            9 January 2013 14: 14
            bddrus, Language rules generally cannot be established by government decisions.
            1. +2
              9 January 2013 17: 26
              I also said that the link that was given to a friend indicated that a historically formed rule, but "in Ukraine" is the requirement of "Independence" and Ukrainian Natsik
              1. davoks
                +3
                9 January 2013 18: 41
                grammar nazi negodue ... explain how in Ukraine and Ukraine relates to this article?
        2. +4
          9 January 2013 14: 22
          Quote: Skavron
          That's right ... that means they should write correctly and without errors

          I see no errors.
      2. Axel
        -1
        9 January 2013 20: 23
        And in Russia, when will the contract army be?
        Yesterday, new spelling rules were introduced in Lviv!
      3. -2
        10 January 2013 15: 57
        Do you speak Russian a lot "in Germany", "in Sweden"? Correctly "in".

        Do you often say "let's go to Germany"? Or will we still "go to Germany"?
    2. +1
      9 January 2013 13: 29
      Quote: Skavron
      Before writing articles about the army, you need to learn the language you are writing in.
      "In Ukraine" is used only in colloquial speech ...

      What is the difference (fundamental) in Ukraine or Ukraine - 70 t. This is not the Army (more precisely, for some Belgium, the army) But for Ukraine? Only the Presidential Regiment (Ceremonial) - 5% of the army. _laughter, how to protect such a territory?
      1. Skavron
        +5
        9 January 2013 13: 43
        You can’t argue, really 70 thousand. - This is not an army for a country with such a territory and such a population.
        It's just that our army DOES NOT NEED our government. What does the government and the opposition have to do with it ...
      2. Akim
        0
        9 January 2013 14: 36
        Where is this terrible figure -70 taken from? This is an old statement by Salamatin - almost a year ago. Then they realized that they went too far and increased this figure to 100 thousand. In any case, none of my friends expect a wild contraction. He who wants will remain!
        1. -1
          10 January 2013 06: 09
          if now 180000, then a reduction to 100 is almost 000 times !!!, every second under a reduction - perhaps a "wild reduction" is when it is 2 times?
          1. Akim
            -1
            10 January 2013 07: 41
            The reduction will affect storage bases, business units. In general, those places where conscripts prevail. And this is almost half of the army. Naturally, contraction is always painful. But if you yourself do not want. Example. I have a classmate, the eternal captain. Sits at the base. Doesn’t do a damn thing - gets a salary. The base has long been necessary to eliminate. And he knows. He submitted a report to the combat unit and is waiting for a transfer. If you want, stay. Do not want to - quit. As before, now no one is holding.
    3. Svobodny
      +5
      9 January 2013 14: 13
      Dear compatriot Skavron!
      The literary norm of the modern Russian language: in Ukraine, from Ukraine.
      The literary norm of the Russian language, according to which one should speak and write "in Ukraine", is the result of the historical development of the language over several centuries.
      http://www.gramota.ru/spravka/buro/hot10/
      Sincerely, site corrector Pavel
      1. Skavron
        -3
        9 January 2013 14: 47
        I have other sources.
        You yourself have indicated above in which cases to write "on" and in which "in".
        Then a logical question arises - in the title of the article do we perceive Ukraine as a state or as a territory ??? If as a territory, then either as rgeographical education, or we interpret this word in a derogatory context. If as state, then you should write "in".
        So I think the spelling in the title of the article is not correct, for the reasons stated above. I have no complaints about the phrase "in Ukraine" if I mean a geographic territory. Example: "Ukraine has large coal deposits."
        Regards Skavron
        1. +6
          9 January 2013 17: 32
          demogogy of Ukrainian Natsiks! you have nothing more to distinguish yourself from the Russians? (or what do you call Russians there "according to the correct rules of the Russian language"?) my mother is Ukrainian (when you speak a ear - no one even pays attention) relatives in Ukraine - no one, NO ONE says "in Ukraine" - this is the lot of those who are fixated on independence !. in the USSR, Ukraine was also a republic and no one was hurt by this-although \ one could squeal that Ukraine is not the outskirts of the USSR, but now what suddenly ??? what other arguments are needed about the political nature of this topic?
          1. Skavron
            -1
            9 January 2013 17: 40
            Quote: bddrus
            NOBODY says "in Ukraine"

            Yes? But I'm Russian, I live in Donbass and I speak correctly "in Ukraine".
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              0
              19 January 2013 08: 31
              Yeah, that’s also right. how to say the Baltic countries, instead of pro-Baltic
      2. Akim
        -1
        9 January 2013 15: 05
        Svobodny,

        Tell me. Probably I did not study in the Soviet school. My classmate flew to my father in Cuba, and flew into the Cuban republic. Maybe in modern Russian interpretation, the Russian language has somehow changed? It seems that Medvedev is not a linguist.
        1. Svobodny
          +1
          9 January 2013 16: 49
          Akim, Skavron, I repeat that all this is pure grammar, and nothing more. Nouns republic (country, state, empire) combined with the preposition в, as well as nouns Sweden or Cameroon (in the republic, in the republic, in Sweden, in Cameroon, etc.). The noun "Ukraine" requires a preposition on (to Ukraine, in Ukraine). We are talking about the compatibility of prepositions with specific nouns (and what we mean by them - states, territories or great ancient empires - is not so important). These are just the norms of the modern Russian language. This is not politics, but linguistics.
          1. Akim
            -5
            9 January 2013 17: 37
            Svobodny,

            In terms of grammar, any official name of the state comes with a pretext "AT". Cuba - there is no such country there is a state republic of cuba Also with other countries. There is no such official name in Ukraine. The republic is just a form of government. Therefore, for sure, the pretext "in" is also acceptable with a state with an official name Ukraine. And the fact that they refer to history ... It was never before such a state. All is correct. For example, I was born in Ukraine, but in the USSR. I was taught that way at school.
            1. Svobodny
              +6
              9 January 2013 17: 54
              Quote: Akim
              in Ukraine, but in the Ukrainian SSR

              That's right! On the Ukraine but в Ukrainian Soviet Socialist The Republic. В republic в country в state в to the head в at home в book BUT on Ukraine, on the table on the road on the beds. The question has been settled by this.
              1. Akim
                -5
                9 January 2013 18: 08
                Svobodny,
                You did not understand the Ukrainian SSR - this is the official name of the state that was part of the USSR. For the Canary Islands, the preposition "on" is acceptable. This is not a sovereign state. but the Comoros have the first word Union. They are called so in Union of Comoros..
                Personally, I don't care what the Russians will call "v" or "na". Who is not friendly with neighbors or badly this pretext will not play a role. I just want the love to think with their heads and not with their ears from the official version.
                1. Svobodny
                  +3
                  9 January 2013 18: 20
                  I’m going to rest in Comoros, and then I’ll drop in Cuba and Japan. Here you can get to this if you violate the established rules of the language for centuries.
                  1. Akim
                    -5
                    9 January 2013 18: 30
                    Svobodny,
                    Don't be funny. Just turn on the logic. You can go to breathe in Ukraine, but "in Ukraine" there is an army. Another question is what it is. Ukraine has its own government. Stupid somehow sounds "Ukraine has its own government".
                    1. Skavron
                      -1
                      9 January 2013 18: 39
                      Quote: Akim
                      Akim

                      I’m interpreting the same thing to them ...
                    2. Svobodny
                      0
                      9 January 2013 22: 03
                      Quote: Akim
                      Do not jerk.
                      Learn Russian
                      1. Akim
                        -1
                        9 January 2013 22: 08
                        Svobodny,
                        I caught it. Now I won't be able to sleep. Forgot "Yo". Here is Yo-mine.
                    3. -1
                      10 January 2013 15: 50
                      Well, go skiing in Finland, in the Czech Republic resorts are also decent. Or is there a Brighton in the USA?
                      1. Akim
                        0
                        10 January 2013 16: 11
                        Andrey77,
                        You poorly studied in shkoy or like to parrot for the top?
    4. Yoshkin Kot
      -1
      9 January 2013 17: 29
      Otayat- no! on ukroin there will be no contract army, for this is expensive, and dumb pennies laughing
    5. +4
      9 January 2013 18: 14
      following your logic, I need to say not "in Malta", but in Malta ..? . the prefix "ON" does not diminish the significance of the country or territory!
      some countries come with the prefix "B" .. for example "in Belarus", "in Germany", and some with "HA" .. "in the Caribbean", "in Ukraine".
      but in essence (now they will not be satisfied), the name of the country did not come from the ancient "ukrov", but from "ON THE OUTSIDE OF RUSSIA" (IN UKRAINE). Therefore, they say with the prefix "on"
      1. Akim
        -6
        9 January 2013 18: 23
        Quote: pinachet
        following your logic, I need to say not "in Malta", but in Malta ..? ...

        It will be right in the Republic of Malta.
    6. WW3
      WW3
      +6
      10 January 2013 05: 40
      Quote: Skavron
      you need to learn the language you are writing in. That's right ... that means they should write correctly and without errors

      survived ... Ukrainians teach Russian language wassat
  2. +3
    9 January 2013 10: 50
    Trends in speed will lead to the abandonment of the aircraft as in Panama .... negative
  3. +6
    9 January 2013 11: 18
    The number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2012 amounted to 184 thousand people. The Ukrainian army is the fifth largest in Europe. The reform developed by the Ministry of Defense involves a reduction in the size of the army within five years to 70 thousand people.. Ukrainian experts felt that the maintenance of a small contract army is economically more profitable than the existing draft one. The only question is whether the lads will voluntarily serve for 1500 hryvnias?
    What is needed here is a clear strategy for building a core of people who are ready to give 3 to 5 years to military service, who understand their prospects, and not just solving problems of temporary earnings... So far, no real steps have been observed in this direction. And therefore the "staff turnover" and the low quality of contractors will be imperative, which by the way Russia faced during the reforms of the Ministry of Defense during Ivanov's times, which were also widely advertised in the press but did not achieve success.
    1. +1
      19 January 2013 17: 30
      Voluntarily serve for 1500 hryvnia go.
      By the way, not 1500, but 1700-1900 (rank and file)
      The only trouble is that after the first contract 80% leaves.
      Part is trying to quit without even having earned the first contract.
      Those 20% who sign the next contract, for the most part, are not exemplary military personnel.
  4. +3
    9 January 2013 11: 27
    Quote: Ascetic
    The reform developed by the Ministry of Defense involves a reduction in the size of the army over five years to 70 thousand people.

    How are they going to defend themselves with the army in 70 t.? Then you need to at least prepare a combat-ready reserve.
    70 t. Is it all sun? Including non-military units, air defense, navy, supply? Funny
  5. +6
    9 January 2013 11: 32
    Dear Skavron! Speak and write correctly according to all norms of the Russian language "on Ukraine "rather than"в Ukraine ". Whereas according to the norms of the Ukrainian language, it is the other way around. However, we must not forget that this resource is Russian, that is, Russian-speaking. If you don’t believe according to the norms of writing this phrase, refer to Russian grammar or the great Russian classics. I hope this will help you. ...
    1. Skavron
      -4
      9 January 2013 11: 35
      Quote: deo75
      refer to Russian grammar

      That's just what turned.
      1. +3
        9 January 2013 12: 14
        "In" Ukraine or "In" Ukraine - whatever you like, the question is different, namely whether a contract army is possible with such funding in Ukraine and if possible, then in what quantity, and will the "army" be limited only to police functions against of their people, because the "army" of 70 thousand people, staffed exclusively by contract soldiers, looks like troops to disperse demonstrations ... That is the question ...
        1. +2
          9 January 2013 12: 48
          troops to disperse demonstrations ??? what's the point? Isn't there an explosive there? Or are there few police? at 70 - they need it either under the wing of NATO or Russia
        2. Yoshkin Kot
          +1
          9 January 2013 17: 31
          the norm of literary Russian language - In Ukraine, or in ukroin laughing
      2. Yoshkin Kot
        0
        19 January 2013 08: 33
        edition of the name of Bebik and Grushevsky?
    2. 0
      19 January 2013 17: 33
      Interestingly, is this a military or philological resource?
      Zadolbali already with their "B", "NA", etc.
  6. +1
    9 January 2013 11: 53
    For example:
    http://www.gramota.ru/spravka/buro/hot10
    1. Skavron
      -2
      9 January 2013 11: 59
      I do not accept an example. Like the same political decision.
      http://www.u-kraina.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=99:v-ukrain

      e & catid = 13 & Itemid = 26
  7. +4
    9 January 2013 12: 40
    Much of what has been done over the past 20 years both in Russia and in Ukraine for the sake of political correctness, including in the field of linguistic norms, should not be taken into account, due to its obvious bias and bias.
    All these throwing from "to" to "v" and vice versa are caused by the pathos of "independence" and the wave of nationalism in Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, willingly supported by some circles of the new elite of the Russian Federation (although not all), so as not to offend their Ukrainian neighbors.
    It should be emphasized that it was precisely the pronunciation in the form of "in Ukran (well)" that developed and was used In russian language centuries. Even yours, as well as our classic T. Shevchenko, uses the prefix "on" and not "in" in this particular case, not to mention other classics, and not only classics, but also contemporaries right up to the collapse of the Union. And all these twitching and throwing of recent years can in no way be taken as the basis for the truth of this or that postulate.
    So, as the saying goes: "Behold the root!".
    1. Skavron
      -3
      9 January 2013 14: 01
      You apparently also do not understand the difference between the meanings of words.
      I brought you the link, brought it. And you continue to persevere with reference to the classics, not even understanding the difference in the spelling of words in Fiction, with the spelling of words in official documents and in the press. It's time to know such subtleties in the differences. You can certainly speak the language of Pushkin, very beautiful words are found by Alexander Sergeyevich ... well, then we will not use these RUSSIAN words in official documents and in the press?
      1. +4
        9 January 2013 14: 25
        What about observing basic rules of communication? I did not poke you!
        Didn’t I give you any links? And where are the stylistic differences? Language norms within the framework of one language, in this case Russian, united!
        What do you think I stubborn mean? I am trying to open your eyes to the obvious things that have developed historically. I didn’t come up with such a spelling, the author is the Russian people! Speak and write as you wish in your Ukraine! It is important that in Russia they speak and write correctly, and not tryndel in "surzhik" - this terrible mixture of Russian and Ukrainian languages.
        It all starts small. First, the language begins to be grossly distorted, then the mentality, and so on, and, like the end to everything, degeneration. Do you suggest striving for this?
        1. Skavron
          +1
          9 January 2013 14: 50
          I sincerely apologize for "you".
          I left a comment there on the site corrector above Svobodny.
          You can familiarize yourself.
  8. biglow
    +4
    9 January 2013 13: 02
    in Ukraine, the army turns into a place where officers live and few soldiers guard what is still left in the warehouses.
  9. +2
    9 January 2013 14: 05
    My opinion is this: for the defense of the Motherland, only a conscription (all, without exception, are suitable: tactics, rifle, physical training, unusable household work (cleaning, kitchen, amenity) - for two years suitable, for the other three. Contracts - penaz, reconnaissance. A fully contract army is an army for conquering colonies and establishing an acceptable order there, they will fight for money, but how about free of charge ("to endure hardships and hardships") to defend their homeland, I doubt it. Probably Ukraine is preparing a hundred colonial Power, glad for it!
  10. +1
    9 January 2013 14: 06
    The video is almost true ....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ex-8Qs1gmQE
  11. +2
    9 January 2013 14: 32
    What are the contractors. After a couple of years we will be left without ships and aircraft, Look at the military budget of 2013. But there are more guards in PSCs than soldiers and officers in the Armed Forces, and in terms of the number of cops per capita ahead of the rest.
    1. biglow
      +2
      9 January 2013 17: 51
      Now in Ukraine all resources are thrown into the internal troops, the government is preparing for unrest and Ukrainian. residual army funding
    2. Dikremnij
      0
      10 January 2013 03: 47
      Yes, along the way, there are more people in the VV MVD than in the Armed Forces.
  12. +1
    9 January 2013 16: 44
    Romania, however, was able to switch to a contract. And she will be more victorious. The main thing here is that they would steal less and think with their heads. And still in the direction of Belarus it is worth looking carefully.
    1. davoks
      +1
      9 January 2013 18: 34
      Belarus has a call
  13. MG42
    +4
    9 January 2013 18: 05
    A strange question = contract workers have to pay, there is a hole in the budget of Ukraine. Public servants are being detained for salaries, they only hear about the reduction of the army, they have already reduced it to the limit, and Ukrainian. the fleet in general is just a miserable bunch of ships + one repaired submarine in the steppes of Ukraine with difficulty died in an unequal aerial battle crying The big question is what can be opposed in the event of Ukraine’s aggression = combat hopak? lol . I agree that all finances are used to finance the repressive apparatus of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, SBU, etc., and the army’s budget on the residual principle, what remains of the master’s table?
    1. biglow
      +2
      9 January 2013 19: 16
      MG42,
      Ukraine has no real opponents, that's why they decided to merge the army to the level of ceremonial units
      1. MG42
        +4
        9 January 2013 19: 33
        Quote: biglow
        Ukraine has no real opponents

        There is always a weak state who wants to conquer or bite off a piece of territory. Ukraine’s neighbors can be lucky, but weakness provokes even friends.
        1. biglow
          +4
          10 January 2013 14: 37
          MG42,
          the under-states have no chance of a long life. You cannot fool the story
          1. MG42
            +4
            10 January 2013 18: 05
            Quote: biglow
            You can’t deceive history

            I agree. For 20 years of independence, Ukraine has not achieved much success, and the Soviet margin of safety has been almost exhausted. The army of Ukraine - as a mirror image of the country's potential. Those who tax in the country have long had real estate in Europe, passports and capital are kept there = after sucking out all the juices, and in case of unrest, they will simply settle there for permanent residence.
  14. davoks
    0
    9 January 2013 18: 29
    yes, so it was clear from the very beginning that these were campaign promises. According to EBN in Russia, the contract army should have existed for 13 years
  15. 0
    9 January 2013 18: 40
    About Belarus mentioned, due to the successful organization of territorial defense forces.
  16. davoks
    -1
    9 January 2013 18: 45
    here the Chinese PLA can deploy at the call of 600 million soldiers.

    The legislation provides for military service for men from the age of 18; volunteers are accepted until 49 years old. The age limit for a soldier in an army reserve is 50 years. In wartime, theoretically (without taking into account material security restrictions), up to 600 million people can be mobilized

    Do you think this is better than contractual or worse?
    1. 0
      19 January 2013 17: 43
      Better or worse - it doesn’t matter.
      600 million people, even if they are disabled, will sweep away any army.
      The question is different:
      where does this figure come from? 600 million.
      If we assume that the population of China is 1,5 billion, then there are also women, children, and the elderly (more than 50 years old), and not fit for military service.
      In short, 600 million. They can’t scrape together.
  17. asf32wesdg
    0
    10 January 2013 18: 38
    It just can't be !!! The FSB has created this http://sho.rtlink.de/FS62Am database about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries. Really was really scared
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos of a different nature) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...
  18. Akim
    0
    11 January 2013 12: 37
    hgmghmmhmsxhntadfgSGER
  19. Akim
    0
    11 January 2013 12: 37
    NBJRTHEARHNSHGJQRHJTAHGry
  20. DmitryMSK
    0
    25 July 2013 07: 23
    It feels like the army is being merged in Ukraine .....