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Footage of the Israeli special forces operation “Flotilla 13” to free prisoners at the Sufa base raises questions

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Footage of the Israeli special forces operation “Flotilla 13” to free prisoners at the Sufa base raises questions

The Israeli military showed the progress of the operation against Hamas in the border areas with the Gaza Strip. The combat effort was allegedly aimed at freeing 250 prisoners and hostages held by Hamas at the Sufa military base captured by the group.


The operation was carried out by special forces soldiers "Flotilla 13 ("Shayetet 13") - units that are part of the special (sabotage and reconnaissance) operations forces of the Israeli Navy.

It is alleged that during the Flotilla 13 operation, about 60 members of the Hamas group were eliminated, and another 26 were detained. Among those detained is Abu Ali, whom the Israeli army press service described as deputy commander of Hamas' southern naval division.

In the footage you can see Israeli commandos firing from automatic weapons, throwing grenades. In addition to small arms, some special forces soldiers also have hand grenade launchers.

At the same time, it is not entirely clear: either the footage shows the final part of the assault, or Hamas did not offer any significant resistance at all. Among other things, the Israeli military demonstrates how they take out a young man without clothes. He is placed facing the wall.



Why did he find himself naked, taking a shower during an Israeli assault while holding 250 prisoners? To put it mildly, it is not entirely clear.

Then filming takes place in pitch darkness. The multitude of evacuated hostages, like the dozens of bodies of liquidated Hamas fighters, are not shown.



These images raise many questions. Among them is the question of whether the Israeli tank that appeared in one of the frames was used for the assault or was it already at the base, being, like the entire base, captured by Hamas?

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  1. Msi
    Msi 13 October 2023 09: 04
    +19
    Abu Ali, whom the Israeli army press service named as deputy commander of Hamas' southern naval division

    Is it that they also have a northern military - naval division? lol
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 October 2023 09: 07
      +8
      Quote from Msi
      Abu Ali, whom the Israeli army press service named as deputy commander of Hamas' southern naval division

      Is it that they also have a northern military - naval division? lol

      In principle, Hamas and the Islamic State have up to 60 thousand people under arms in Gaza. But the translation is not correct. Not a "division", but a formation. In fact, their Forces have long been divided into Southern and Northern Commands.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 October 2023 09: 10
        +11
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        In principle, Hamas and the Islamic State have up to 60 thousand people under arms in Gaza.

        To be honest, quite a lot, and they are also “motivated” to the fullest.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 13 October 2023 09: 13
          +9
          It seems they had 150 hostages, but released 250. Arabs love round numbers.
          1. Smoker
            Smoker 13 October 2023 09: 26
            +30
            The bloody operetta was staged with the sole purpose of starting a “legitimate” war with Iran, with the entire NATO force... It’s clear that Hamas was given the opportunity to film atrocities against the Israelis, this is another September 11th... Well, they’re not sending an aircraft carrier (and more than one!) against Palestine?.. As they say, White Helmets know how to remove... Now provocations and dragging Iran into the conflict.. I think Russia will also be accused of helping Iran and away they go... All this to win the global a game where the United States began to lose the minds of the global South..

            And the fact that ordinary Israelis or Palestinians are dying there is of little interest to the world behind the scenes... Hamas was used in the dark, the Israeli military on the border is the same... peaceful people are generally consumable material for the behind the scenes.. It’s all about the minds of the global south and shaken hegemony...
            1. Trapp1st
              Trapp1st 13 October 2023 09: 38
              -34
              now provocations and dragging Iran into conflict..
              Iran was warned that it would stop military supplies to the Russian Federation.
              1. Cartographer
                Cartographer 13 October 2023 10: 09
                +13
                Quote: Trapp1st
                now provocations and dragging Iran into conflict..
                Iran was warned that it would stop military supplies to the Russian Federation.

                So, should everyone listen to you? NATO is sending its weapons to Ukraine, the DPRK and Iran will send them to Russia. Russia will lift sanctions on Iran and the DPRK and will supply air defense and aviation
                1. aakvit
                  aakvit 13 October 2023 13: 00
                  +8
                  Why are you getting involved in a dispute with a sissy or at least a navalnyon? request This can be clearly seen from his comments!
              2. Sergei N 58912062
                Sergei N 58912062 13 October 2023 15: 19
                +6
                Quote: Trapp1st
                now provocations and dragging Iran into conflict..
                Iran was warned that it would stop military supplies to the Russian Federation.

                Who warned? Yankees? Fuck them! Iran is an independent country. He does what he wants.
            2. Cartographer
              Cartographer 13 October 2023 09: 41
              +7
              Quote: Smoker
              Well, they’re not sending an aircraft carrier (and more than one!) against Palestine?...

              Shlyut. In 82, battleships also fired at Lebanon
              1. Smoker
                Smoker 13 October 2023 11: 14
                +6
                It seems that Palestinian aviation is strong, if Israeli aviation is not enough... wassat So they send an aircraft carrier, destroyers and landing ships... Who is the aircraft carrier intended for? wassat
                1. orionvitt
                  orionvitt 13 October 2023 12: 38
                  +7
                  Quote: Smoker
                  Who is the aircraft carrier intended for?

                  How does this apply to whom? Against an obviously technologically weak enemy. Everything the US people like. But this rarely helps them. They know how to bomb, especially civilians, and only if the enemy does not have modern air defense. But if they get stuck in a ground operation, then the issue is moot.
            3. sailor roman
              sailor roman 13 October 2023 10: 11
              +6
              I agree, you, the “smoker,” are right! The idea behind this massacre is a well-prepared US provocation aimed at destroying Iran. But which of the satellite countries will be involved in this provocation is not yet clear. How many Israelis, Europeans and Arabs will die is not important to them.
            4. Graz
              Graz 13 October 2023 10: 40
              -4
              Quote: Smoker
              I think Russia will also be accused of helping Iran and away we go...

              this means we need to strike first and destroy all NATO bases in Europe and Asia with a nuclear strike
            5. Lionnvrsk
              Lionnvrsk 13 October 2023 12: 06
              +1
              Quote: Smoker
              The bloody operetta was staged for the sole purpose of starting a “legitimate” war with Iran

              It seems to me that this is a simplified view. In addition to the goal you indicated, in my opinion, there are at least 2-3 more of them. Yes
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 13 October 2023 12: 13
                -2
                Quote: LIONnvrsk
                In addition to the goal you indicated, in my opinion, there are at least 2-3 more of them

                Will you decipher it? Or top secret?
    2. Silver99
      Silver99 13 October 2023 09: 15
      +44
      I didn’t know that in Israel there was a “film studio” for filming soap operas. Anyone who is even remotely familiar with special operations, and secret units at that, will not believe that for this operation, where the lives of 250 hostages are in the balance, they take a professional cameraman for HD filming, if only for reasons of secrecy, and if someone films with a head-mounted camera, then This is purely for official use, and the quality is so-so. This particular movie is for the “Arons”, with the goal of lifting noses drooping from sadness.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 13 October 2023 09: 32
        +9
        Quote from Silver99
        I didn't know that Israel had...

        We don’t know a lot of things and use unreliable sources of information. One thing is clear: the video is staged. At least based on the rate of fire of attackers and defenders...
        Quote from Silver99
        ...for this operation where the lives of 250 hostages are in the balance, a professional cameraman is taken for HD filming...then this is purely for official use, and the quality is so-so.

        Wearable video recorder CONTROL 2 (OPT)
        https://kontrolcam.ru/tproduct/332424618-247270239061-kontrol-2-opt?yclid=1064810137839206399
        I have one like this. The quality of the shooting is consistent with the stated specifications...
        * * *
        Indeed, we need to leave this to Aron and his fellow countrymen...
        1. Clear
          Clear 13 October 2023 09: 44
          +2
          Quote: ROSS 42
          rate of fire of attackers and defenders...

          And the captured weapons of the “shooters” are not visible... request
      2. fif21
        fif21 13 October 2023 09: 49
        +4
        Quote from Silver99
        Anyone who is more or less familiar with special operations, especially secret units, will not believe that this operation, where life is in the balance, is 250

        The stated purpose of the operation was to free the hostages. And where are they? hi
    3. Mikhail Ivanov
      Mikhail Ivanov 13 October 2023 09: 17
      +27
      I was very surprised, but the Jews began to imitate the Ukrainians. There is already an explanation for this “assault” - Hamas left there, there was no one there. One beaten Arab with a video could have been stupidly brought there...
      1. Clear
        Clear 13 October 2023 09: 46
        +7
        Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
        I was very surprised, but the Jews began to imitate the Ukrainians.

        So the Jews, before and after the Northern Military District, trained the Armed Forces of Ukraine in urban battles.
  2. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 13 October 2023 09: 05
    +13
    Footage of the Israeli special forces operation “Flotilla 13” to free prisoners at the Sufa base raises questions
    Tik toks were filmed.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2023 09: 07
    +19
    These images raise a lot of questions.
    Just like the American footage of the liquidation of Osama bin Laden. But the whole world watched it.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 13 October 2023 09: 10
      +15

      rotmistr60 (Gennady)
      Today, 09: 07
      NEW
      +1
      These images raise a lot of questions.
      Just like the American footage of the liquidation of Osama bin Laden. But the whole world watched it.
      The customer and the director are the SAME!
  4. Bianconeri
    Bianconeri 13 October 2023 09: 10
    +18
    No, together with AUG they could bring half of Hollywood to make a movie... The propaganda machine is only gaining momentum. I think we won’t see shots like this again.
    1. carpenter
      carpenter 13 October 2023 09: 17
      +7
      Quote: Bianconeri
      I think we won’t see shots like this again.

      We'll see, don't doubt it. And Uncle Sam pays more money for such films than any film studio.
  5. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 13 October 2023 09: 13
    +14
    Even the production was not a success. It seems to me that even the Jews won’t believe this bullshit.
    1. Msi
      Msi 13 October 2023 09: 22
      +11
      I don't think even the Jews will believe this bullshit.

      Instructors from Ukraine who have returned will soon bring pots there... Many will believe... So if not all the noodles are eaten in the pots... It will fall softly on your ears...
    2. carpenter
      carpenter 13 October 2023 09: 24
      +9
      Quote: igorbrsv
      Even the production was not a success. It seems to me that even the Jews won’t believe this bullshit.

      The Jews won’t believe it, but the European Union will believe it. And in Svidomitiya, it’s a blast.
    3. fiv
      fiv 14 October 2023 10: 23
      +2
      Where are the big-assed girls from the army with their dances? The topic of the Israeli Army operation has not been fully disclosed! That's what it means - screenwriters went on strike in Hollywood! We don't believe it!
  6. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 13 October 2023 09: 13
    +11
    There is a suspicion that Zelensky, as part of helping Eretz Israel, sent fighters from TsIPSO there.
  7. matsur
    matsur 13 October 2023 09: 15
    +5
    They took me out naked. Maybe this is their protocol. If you take someone prisoner, he must undress, because no one needs a suicide bomber who will blow himself up surrounded by enemies. At the same time, others, seeing the guy without clothes, understand that the prisoner will not be taken down by accident. If you want to live, you will undress quickly. Although, seeing the footage of what the Israeli military is doing to those who surrender...
  8. Dart
    Dart 13 October 2023 09: 17
    +1
    It will do for the press...
  9. Constantine N
    Constantine N 13 October 2023 09: 17
    -3
    Yes, in reality, they used gas/radiation to disorient the militants, and then calmly captured the base. What is the point of risking special forces in a relatively small limited area?
  10. BIABIA
    BIABIA 13 October 2023 09: 20
    +27
    From these frames we can conclude that a bunch of Jewish special forces with machine guns/grenade launchers, in armored armor/helmets, in general in full ammunition, captured one naked man! Brilliantly good
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 13 October 2023 09: 25
      +11
      Captured one naked man!
      First they brought it, and then they heroically captured it...
    2. carpenter
      carpenter 13 October 2023 09: 28
      +4
      Quote: BIABIA
      in armored armor/helmets, generally in full ammunition, she captured one naked man! Brilliantly

      Not the director's revision.
      1. Mikhail Ivanov
        Mikhail Ivanov 13 October 2023 19: 22
        +2
        It was the director! Non-traditional sexual orientation laughing
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 13 October 2023 09: 31
    +5
    A “beautiful” picture is a real picture of events, not the same thing!
    However, everyone is guilty of ostentatious plots, because not everyone is ready to look at the real, terrible thing.
    In general, as always, the real world is collapsing into the world of illusions, and this makes many people really feel bad!
  12. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 13 October 2023 09: 41
    -1
    Footage of the Israeli special forces operation “Flotilla 13” to free prisoners at the Sufa base raises questions


    As they say, show must go...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 October 2023 10: 42
      +2
      There were no captive Israelis there.
      Residents themselves fought off Hamas
      and fired back from the bomb shelter. Hamas left a minimum of people and moved on.
      Therefore, the special forces took the village with ease, almost without a fight.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 13 October 2023 12: 51
        0
        Warrior to avoid such mistakes. Tell us what happened from the inside? You still know better, otherwise they don’t see our sofas and are imagining. I don't like ear noodles
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 October 2023 14: 00
          +3
          In this caravan village there was a rare case,
          when the self-defense group spotted the militants in time.
          They started shooting back, killed several Hamas fighters,
          then they retreated to the general bomb shelter and continued
          shoot back until the soldiers arrived.
          The special forces had a large quantitative advantage
          and he won easily.
          In several other kibbutzim (communes) it was completely different.
          Both the self-defense group and the soldiers died.
          Hamas gunned down every civilian they could
          see, they went from house to house, killing families completely.
          Personal concrete shelters in houses were blown up with RPGs.
      2. aakvit
        aakvit 13 October 2023 13: 07
        +2
        How did they present the video?! And then you talk about the veracity of your news? wassat
  13. Foma Kinyaev
    Foma Kinyaev 13 October 2023 09: 43
    +5
    Quote: Smoker
    The bloody operetta was staged for the sole purpose of starting a “legitimate” war with Iran,

    I also think so. Iran is a key center of resistance. By the way, in Iran, Iranian Jews have a quota for seats in the local parliament enshrined in the law, so the usual howls about anti-Semitism with tearing at the chests of the lampoons in relation to Iran do not work.
  14. operKOT
    operKOT 13 October 2023 10: 03
    -6
    Not an article, but some kind of nonsense. What the author wanted to convey is not at all clear. I wasn’t at the scene of the events myself, but I’m still trying to convey something from my point of view.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 13 October 2023 10: 31
    +4
    “Shayetet 13” is storming its own post of Suf and what is not clear here.
  16. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 13 October 2023 10: 33
    +7
    From the video, what is clear: there are no opponents, their corpses too, just like the hostages, but there are many coolly equipped special forces who are shooting somewhere in the middle of nowhere and... one naked man. Without it, it would not have been possible to post it. If this is a production, then it is completely mediocre; if not, then even worse - anti-advertising for the IDF.
  17. Graz
    Graz 13 October 2023 10: 37
    +3
    fake video without a doubt
  18. vladcub
    vladcub 13 October 2023 11: 51
    +2
    Comrades, take my word for it. There will also be many questions, and the main ones: where did intelligence look? Miss such an operation!!!
    Have the Ministry of Defense even heard about: The Charter of Guard Service?
    No answer and therefore no conclusions. Sooner or later, they will step on the same rake
  19. decimalegio
    decimalegio 13 October 2023 13: 11
    +1
    But first of all, why should we ask ourselves why the prisoner was naked? actually, maybe he was taking a shower or it was just hot. Another hypothesis was that they confirmed that he did not hide explosives between his buttocks or below. laughing
  20. opposite28
    opposite28 13 October 2023 15: 21
    +2
    The footage from the video is similar to filming of a training operation for further analysis of the mistakes of the soldiers. Statement in one word no more request
  21. Boris Manzhela
    Boris Manzhela 13 October 2023 18: 07
    0
    Quote: Smoker
    The bloody operetta was staged with the sole purpose of starting a “legitimate” war with Iran, with the entire NATO force... It is clear that Hamas was given the opportunity to film atrocities against the Israelis, this is another September 11...

    Well, this year it just so happened that it was October 11th.
    I see another attempt to start the 3rd World War (something just doesn’t work out with Ukraine no matter how hard we try) now with the epicenter in the Middle East, which is spreading further and deeper from the long-running and sluggish internal Israeli conflict (if it is not quickly and decisively stopped ) Jordan, Syria and Egypt will be drawn in, followed by the UAE, Qatar, Afghanistan, Iran, etc. God forbid the connection of nuclear countries like India, Pakistan and China. Or maybe that's what it's meant to do?
  22. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 13 October 2023 18: 21
    +4
    One naked Arab guarded 50 hostages? Well then the Spenazites can be proud of themselves - they rocked such security!

    And the quality of the video raises not only questions - but also completely obvious answers.
    For such a dangerous operation to be filmed with such clearly choreographed and directed footage? It never happens like that. What I do know is that operational photography, even in much simpler operations, is always more chaotic, jerky and fragmented. But here no one is in a hurry, they move lazily, there is no fear of running into fire from the premises at all! No one's step ever faltered, no one's voice ever faltered...
    In essence, it is anti-Butch. There, the trousers filmed the “humiliation” of the hostages. Here the Jews filmed the “liberation” of the hostages.
  23. Horn
    Horn 17 October 2023 19: 18
    0
    Jews opened a branch of Hollywood. The actors, however, are still in trouble. As Stanislavsky said: I don’t believe it!