Republic of the former USSR. Latvia: years without “occupiers”

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Republic of the former USSR. Latvia: years without “occupiers”In 2013, our Latvian neighbors are preparing to celebrate the 95 anniversary of independence from Russia. This is a significant event for Latvia in November of the 1918 year, so there is still a lot of time before the preparations for the stormy and magnificent celebrations in November. During preparation, the Latvian authorities will have to mark one more date - in August - the next anniversary of the “liberation from oppression” of the Soviet Union, which (liberation) opened the way for Latvia to the bosom of a single European family, to growth and prosperity ...

In this material, we will look at all the Latvian achievements over the years of epochal independence from a big and “bloodthirsty” neighbor that the official authorities of Latvia can be proud of. After all, it is precisely the acquisition of independence from a state that for decades, according to the authorities in the Latvian bloodlines, and the status of a member of the European Union are the main events for this small Baltic country for all its new history.

Western politicians and, accordingly, the mass media often declare that during the years of independence from the USSR Latvia has made great strides in terms of the development of the economic and democratic components of the state process. Behind these tirades is often traced the ill-concealed desire of the Western sponsors of the “Latvian miracle” to encourage Riga because it declared a final break with Russia and embarked on a path that benefits the Elder Brothers with overseas registration.

So, the “Latvian miracle”, as stated by Latvian politicians and their European and American colleagues, took place. Let's see what this miracle is about, and what ways you need to go in order to achieve the same prosperity that our former comrades in a single Union achieved.

The economic miracle of Latvia. After the entry of this country into the World Trade Organization (1999), as well as in the EU (2004), the growth of the Latvian economy could be openly envied. The average economic growth to 2009 year was about 6,4% per year. In 2006, the annual economic growth in 12,6% was recorded, which even China could envy today. Latvia’s success years are linked to such a person as the first woman president, Vaira Vike-Freiberga, who, as you know, spent most of her life overseas - in Canada, and only a year and a half before being elected to the presidency, she found herself in “native” Latvia . Aspiring to European integration by all the forces of Latvian citizens, Vika-Freiberga’s long absence in the homeland did not embarrass, and the country (not all, of course) met her stormy and unceasing applause with her election in 1999.

So what are the economic successes of Mrs. Vaira, who instantly gave the Latvian financial system such a powerful impetus for development?

Perhaps, Mrs. President has managed during the years of her rule to build a powerful production system, which has become truly competitive in Europe? Perhaps, Vike-Freiberga used some advanced financial laws so that Latvia would rush into a bright democratic and economic future? But neither the one nor the other Latvian president of the female sex has not been born. The main "achievement" of Vike-Freiberga in her post, as many political analysts in Latvia themselves say, was that she purposefully showed the West her inexhaustible desire to sever any ties with Russia. The anti-Russian direction of the rhetoric of Vike-Freiberga during the entire presidential term did not literally go out of her mouth, which allowed Western partners to conclude that “our man” was sitting in the presidential chair in Riga. And in order for this person to remain “our”, the person had to help him by all means, politically and economically. And such assistance went to Latvia. This, as already noted, the country's accession to the EU and NATO, as well as solid financial revenues, which unexpectedly for many Latvians began to come into the country from foreign banks. Only now the naive Baltic citizens did not yet know that Western aid was never gratuitous and would not be so this time. These are only Russian “invaders” who could afford to help Latvia in such a way that people in the “occupied” territories lived better than those who “occupied these territories”. European and overseas support was different. Outwardly, she looked powerful and fraternal, but on closer examination it turned out that the Latvian "brothers" did not donate money, but lent.

Billions of dollars came to Latvia, filling its economy with life-giving power, which brought Riga, Liepaja, Jelgava and other cities to such euphoria that the sound of the clicking power of the western counter and the citizens were no longer heard. But...

Latvia's accession to the WTO eventually led to the fact that mountains of foreign products flooded store shelves, forcing local farmers to think about whether it is worth engaging in agricultural production in this country. The next stage of migration has begun, which has reduced the rural population from 1991 to 2009 by almost 17%. At the same time, it seemed that if the number of the rural population in Latvia began to fall, then, accordingly, the population of the cities had to grow, as in other countries. However, nothing like this happened in Latvia. The local population, after the Schengen borders were opened wide, began to search for a better life for themselves in the West in a steady stream.

After the last census to date, it turned out that the population of Latvia is about 2,2 million people (the level of the middle of the 50 of the last century). At the same time, Latvian citizens make up only 83,8%. In 1989, the number of inhabitants in Latvia was over 2,68 million people.

However, in Latvia itself, the results of the census, which are not so comforting for the country, are considered to be highly overstated. Many Latvian media outlets in 2011 (the year of the population census) published materials that are devoted to questionable methods of population counting. One of the topics for hot debate was the possibility of filling in accounting cards via the Internet. At the same time, the demographic services did not think up a reliable system of protection of personal information and protection against their re-registration. After conducting journalistic investigations by local media, it turned out that many citizens (including those interested in “growth”) entered their data several times, and the demographic services managed to distinguish themselves, taking into account even those who had already left the country for more than 10 years. After the publication of such scandalous data for Latvia, they began to say that in Latvia today there are no 2,2 million people living at all, but no more than 2 million. At the end of 2011, there was even a special adjustment made to the census data. The CSB published the result of 2,07 million, which showed the initial neglect of the fact of significant emigration. 2,07 million is exactly the demographic level that corresponded to Latvia in 1940-1944. Neither more nor less. Minus 70 years - hello, indicators of independence! ..

If we compare the data on the population of Latvia today with the 1989 indicators of the year, it turns out that over the years of independence, the number of inhabitants of the republic has decreased by almost 23%. This is a depressing indicator. Many may say that the reduction was recorded mainly due to the outflow of Russian families at the beginning of the 90-s to Russia, however, statistics show that not only Russians began to leave Latvia, but also representatives of other nationalities, including the Latvians themselves, who were trying to find more profitable jobs.

It would seem that Latvia’s accession to the EU, to which the country was led by Mrs. Freiberga, on the contrary, should have stimulated the local economy. But on the example of a number of countries in southern Europe, we know that you will not get far from ECB loans.

Freiberga went safely, but the loans on the Latvians remained, and most of them went to maturity. But in order to extinguish, you need to take money from somewhere. The funds, apparently, did not turn out, but on the threshold there was already a global financial crisis, which dealt a powerful blow to the Latvian economy.

The New York Times publication cites data showing that the economy of Latvia in 2009 collapsed by almost 18%. This indicator put Latvia on the last place in the world in terms of counteracting the global financial crisis. Last place in the world ... In other words, not a single country in the world has encountered a crisis with such economic helplessness as Latvia, which, since joining the WTO and the EU, thought that only Germans and French will work for it. At the same time, immediately before the arrival of a large-scale crisis, Latvia, according to the advice of European comrades, liberalized mortgage legislation, which led to the fact that in less than a year prices for Latvian real estate fell by almost a quarter, which led to the development of inflation to incredible values ​​for the European Union (17,9 % in year). The authorities of Latvia tried to follow the path of adjusting inflation, which led to the manifestation of deflation (almost in 4%). This caused a serious economic crisis in the country, and threw Latvia into one of the last places in the EU in terms of economic development.

The same Mrs. Freiberga, who has retired from big political affairs, now declares that the Latvian economy may even crack, because the chances that the Baltic republic will be in the euro zone in the near future are minimal, but if it does, it can go through the Greek or the Italian total lending scenario. At the same time, the ex-president for some reason does not say that, and who has dragged Latvia into a hopeless credit field, where there are impressive interest rates calling for repayment. Peculiar greetings from Vaira Vike-Freiberga, who reaped the glory of the great Latvian reformer, taking advantage of foreign loans.

If we compare the nominal values ​​of Latvian and, for example, Russian GDP per capita today, in Russia this figure is $ 13326, and in European Union Latvia - about $ 12200. At the same time, the state debt of Latvia in percentage terms in 3,5 is more than the national debt of Russia. But if Russia has, from which reserves it can be repaid, then here’s the state debt of Latvia, again. Today it can be repaid only through external borrowing, and this will eventually lead to an increase in debt. Some kind of vicious circle turns out ...

In general, the time from the day of the declaration of independence and the course towards a joyful and cloudless life under the wing of a united Europe for Latvia is passing, but somehow positive, at least outwardly, is not felt. Whether Latvia is somehow integrated incorrectly, or not all Western partners want to see it in their large and ceasing to be a cozy apartment. In general, before the arrival of the holiday of independence from Moscow, Latvia will still have time to remember and think about how “bad” life was under the Russian “invaders”.

Materials used:
http://www.inosmi.ru/baltic/20130106/204233027.html
http://www.golos-ameriki.ru/content/baltic-independence-2011-09-07-129423833/244217.html
http://www.gdeetotdom.ru/foreign/analytics/1811488/
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  1. escapes
    +38
    9 January 2013 09: 26
    During the holidays I was in Latvia for the first time, saw the fruits of "independence" and realized that it was necessary to wait a couple of three years, and they themselves would crawl to our knees))))
    1. +73
      9 January 2013 09: 52
      Quote: fugas
      saw the fruits of "Square" and realized that it was necessary to wait a couple of three years, and they themselves crawl to our knees))))

      The betrayer will betray him once again. Only by pulling them out of the swamp will Natsik immediately appear who will yell about occupation and independence. Now they demand quite a bit from us there, like we owe them. Question - why do we need them? Feed again, let them rot in their EU.
      1. Warrawar
        +27
        9 January 2013 17: 01
        Exactly!
        The most important thing is that we won’t even be able to physically accept them, since this country has nothing to offer Russia: neither technology, nor production capacities ... there’s not even a sales market (population of 2 million according to the most optimistic estimates) . We’ll even take away transit from them soon (hi Ust-Luga). And to attach to yourself the poor shitty republic and feed it for nothing in our century does not make sense.
        1. Edgar
          -33
          9 January 2013 18: 53
          and what did you add in 1940? what was it? at that time in Latvia, only decent radio receivers produced that. there is nothing more to remember. And at the expense of feeding, who is who - the meat-packing plant of my hometown sent 90% of the products to St. Petersburg, while they themselves stood in queues for leftovers. and if you want to watch as you put it "shit republic" then you better look out the window.
          1. Old skeptic
            +23
            10 January 2013 00: 11
            Joy, now your slaughterhouse feeds you only (if you are still alive). wink
            Do you still release the coolest receivers in the world? request
            (by the way, the plant was built by occupants) Before occupation, what did you have?
            1. +9
              10 January 2013 05: 38
              Scythe (Lithuanian) in the field and thatched roof.
              1. Edgar
                -8
                10 January 2013 14: 11
                Actually, it was happiness for peasants all over the world. The house, albeit under a thatched roof, but OWN! and in your own land! and you have deprived this meager happiness of all your citizens, of which the majority were farmers.
                1. +5
                  10 January 2013 15: 22
                  This is when the Russian peasants did not live in their homes? Well, if only when their cultural Europeans, along with all the bastards-including from the Baltic states-burned-fired-hung. Roofs, by the way, were covered with shingles - all better and more durable than straw.
                2. +2
                  10 January 2013 19: 20
                  Have we deprived? So "thanks" to the Latvian Riflemen for helping the communists.
            2. Edgar
              -7
              10 January 2013 14: 06
              And rejoice! the meat processing plant is alive and healthy and feels rather well, despite fierce competition. feeds a lot of people and notice with profit. and the factory worked long before the Soviets, and produced competitive products - but in Soviet times it was uncompetitive! Now I rested, but that's another story.
              1. +3
                10 January 2013 19: 21
                what? In Soviet times, meat was not meat?
              2. Andrey58
                +4
                10 January 2013 19: 59
                Quote: Edgar
                the meat processing plant is alive and well and feels good

                But the VEF-KTR plant rested in Bose. But at the beginning of the 90s it produced very decent automatic telephone exchanges and there was a sales market - the entire former USSR was on "Quantum". But with Europe came Simens and strangled.
                About RAF and remember sad.
          2. +1
            10 January 2013 05: 37
            I’m so hard to put up with your labuses. You hell when you do not eat something in the reception for months, but as soon as the belly is eaten into forest brothers turn. Peter did not finish you off, Catherine forgot about you. Rejoice at the thistle.
          3. nutmeg
            -3
            10 January 2013 13: 05
            hi Latvian, if you know anything, you should speak the language of facts and figures with these phrasebook philosophers. Then they have nothing to answer.
          4. -4
            10 January 2013 17: 28
            The Pskov-Pechersky monastery was located on the territory of Estonia until the 40th year. This saved him from plunder and destruction in the post-revolutionary period. If he were on the territory of Russia, he would suffer the fate of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. So I understand the horror of the Balts in connection with the Sovietization.
        2. +11
          9 January 2013 18: 55
          Quote: Warrawar
          And to attach to yourself the poor shitty republic and feed it for nothing in our century does not make sense.

          Do not forget that more than half a million of our Russian people live there. And in general, this is our land.
          1. +5
            10 January 2013 05: 39
            Courland has never been someone's constant, then the Swedes, then the Finns, then We are our loved ones.
          2. 0
            10 January 2013 11: 35
            Let the Russians who want to move to Russia, but these nationalists remain, no longer need to occupy them, otherwise our children and grandchildren will again be presented with the bill.
            1. +1
              10 January 2013 11: 42
              Have you already prepared for the Russians that you invite housing, work, schools and kindergartens for children ???
          3. Edgar
            -7
            10 January 2013 14: 15
            You at home, on your land, as you stop behaving as the Anglicians behaved in the colonies, so everyone will reach out to you.
            1. +4
              10 January 2013 15: 25
              Hear, my dear, I personally will stock up on popcorn and will gladly watch your agony - it’s not long to wait. Bullied with their arrogance.
            2. 0
              15 January 2013 20: 35
              Quote: Edgar
              so everything will reach you.

              No need to reach out to us, have gained independence, do it yourself!
              I had to travel around the world and drew attention to the pattern - as soon as the "occupiers" (Spaniards, French, etc.) leave the colony, the country that gained independence begins to wither and fade away. Exceptions are very rare.
              Looks like you guys are from the same series. hi
        3. +4
          10 January 2013 11: 26
          Let them howl at least, crawl on their knees, but we won’t take it back. They lived better in the Union than we Russians, they gave everything away, and now they don’t care with oil in their nose, and there will be too much of that for them. am
          1. Edgar
            -10
            10 January 2013 14: 28
            do not even hope! do business - please! under your "sensitive" leadership? nooo! have already tried it - we know! but in the union everyone lived the same way, just if you live according to the law (albeit the Soviet one), then life will still be better than according to concepts! and that is why we do not strive for you
            1. +3
              10 January 2013 16: 21
              Something doesn’t seem like you yourself would have lived under the Union ... In the Baltics they lived definitely better than in the RSFSR. And as for the "sensitive leadership", you are now living under the sensitive guidance of a geyrope ... And to hell with you The time will come, you will understand everything ...
            2. 0
              14 January 2013 14: 23
              Edgar,
              Let's do it, we will take out all our citizens, close the border by ... uh.
              And let's see what happens.
              With a probability of 80%, highly moral Balts will become Somalis.
      2. +1
        10 January 2013 05: 33
        So they will require us to pay off their debts due to compensation for the occupation.
      3. nutmeg
        0
        10 January 2013 12: 24
        Freiberg, it’s already the past, well, to hell with her with this woman ... But I’d be interested to know how things are going in Latvia now, they are talking about quite a considerable economic growth and some debts have already been paid and the introduction of the euro is already a matter months old. ...... Well, there will be minus 23 percent of the population, then half as much as left and will be returned.
        1. nutmeg
          -2
          10 January 2013 12: 33
          and yet, still do not forget about debt, because for 50 years the occupation forces have spoiled too much. If I remind you ..... Lithuania 90 billion dollars, of course, not a single ruble ...

          and yet, still do not forget about debt, because for 50 years the occupation forces have spoiled too much. If I remind you ..... Lithuania 90 billion dollars
          1. 0
            10 January 2013 13: 15
            So I will only be glad if the Balts return the debt. A worthy deed will be. We haven’t even charged them with interest. After all, Russia is more humane than the West ... Great Britain has been planning to repay the loan for 60 years for the supply of "aid" from its allied America, following the results of the First World War! (there was an article on this site) ... and the interest would have been more credit ...
            http://topwar.ru/22795-kak-razbogateli-ssha.html Хорошая статья
            1. nutmeg
              -2
              10 January 2013 13: 28
              so, after all, we will bring to Siberia to sit at the table and to tickle. who owes whom and how much. Yes, we just can’t get through .....
              1. 0
                10 January 2013 14: 50
                So what about beggars and orphans? Russia is not blatantly saxony, it does not achieve bedridden interest on loans.
                1. +2
                  10 January 2013 15: 26
                  !
                  So what about beggars and orphans? Russia is not blatantly saxony, does not finish bedridden interest on loans


                  But in vain - you need to learn from the best. And immediately respect!
              2. +3
                10 January 2013 15: 30
                You’ll be left without the last pants. But let us isolate Vaseline from bounty - now in Europe there is nowhere without it wink
          2. +1
            10 January 2013 14: 23
            And how much does Latvia owe all the other 14 republics for the Latvian riflemen? Yes, because of these shooters, they will owe all the former republics to the grave. There would be no these very "shooters", there would be no Union. So who owes whom?
        2. Edgar
          -3
          10 January 2013 14: 30
          want to know - ask
          1. 0
            10 January 2013 19: 23
            Edgar, I ask. How is Milda doing? Laundered?
          2. 0
            10 January 2013 19: 26
            Edgar I ask. How did the deal with British beer lovers end? How is Milda doing?
            1. Edgar
              +1
              15 January 2013 14: 56
              I apologize for the delay in answering your question dmitreach.
              Milda stands still, and the lover of drinking beer and watering monuments has long been on his wreck. however, like all the others are the same Anglics and other drunken tourists. In view of the fact that "drunken" tourism occupies a solid part of tourism in our country (especially in winter), such "irrigators" are usually delivered to the site, a protocol is drawn up and released with God.
              1. 0
                15 January 2013 23: 04
                Well, okay. thanks for the answer.
                fine then at least some pay?
    2. Vasily79
      +22
      9 January 2013 09: 59
      Quote: fugas
      crawl to us on our knees)
      No need to let the geyevrop feed
      1. +11
        9 January 2013 17: 01
        No need to let the geyevrop feed


        Anyway, you have to take back, ports, territory, military-strategic position, etc. .. Ekanomikasss, gentlemen, and defense (ours) !!!! Yes, and the Russian (non-citizens) population, how to throw them, have they forgotten? Russians do not abandon their!
        1. -1
          10 January 2013 05: 41
          First, let all the labuses in the Eurosope fall down, and then you can take it, and yet ... there are not enough words.
        2. +1
          10 January 2013 15: 07
          I agree that we will have to "take back" these territories, and for the locals to implement a program of universal "literacy" from Comrade Rosenberg - 4 classes of education and for the most loyal, in the form of a university, a vocational school.
    3. +30
      9 January 2013 10: 10
      Quote: fugas
      it remains to wait a couple of three years, and they themselves will crawl to us on our knees))))


      Here, I’ll ask without threats! You need it! When to exit - they are the first. When to help - again they are the first.

      When leaving, Russia left the Latvians such a trifle as the Ingaili NPP, with which only a fool or an ignoramus could not cut money. And yet they were found, and after joining the EU, they covered this station, and now they are thinking how to build a new one, and where, and on what cones? By the way, I refreshed the information on nuclear power plants, and realized, nevertheless, independence is harmful not only for the Baltic states:

      The environmental impact of the closure of the station On the Drukšiai Lake near the station, a whole flock of swans [16] dies. The lake used to serve as a cooling pond for the coolant of nuclear power plants. The water remained warm, the pond did not freeze. The swans had enough food, they could calmly winter. But after the reactors stopped, the lake was covered with a crust of ice.
      1. +36
        9 January 2013 10: 35
        Quote: Karavan
        When leaving, Russia left to the Latvians such a trifle as the Ingaili NPP

        Dear Karavan, you missed a bit with the country, there was a nuclear power plant in Lithuania and in general, I must say that the Lithuanians just lasted a long time with it. I’m sure our title comrades would have pissed off (sorry for my French) this station 10-15 years earlier, because do absolutely everything according to the direction from behind the hill. All! Even ministers are appointed at the US embassy. fool

        http://www.ves.lv/article/235216
        1. +1
          9 January 2013 10: 55
          There are plans to build Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland on the old site of the new nuclear power plant by the 2018. [3]

          but in the future rights)
        2. +15
          9 January 2013 11: 05
          Petrucho, Ignalina NPP has a separate story of lamer divorce. It's just that the EU knows how to count money. Under the guise of "green", they pushed a competitor out of the energy market. Not anything personally - stupid grandmother.
          But what is important is this nuclear power plant being built not for Lithuania, and for the whole Baltic, combined, and even to Belarus. That is, under the conditions of the Age of True Elves, Lithuanians could trade electricity for half of Europe without paying loans for construction ... Freebie. And now, no matter how hard they worked, who was not invited to the project with the construction of the Elven NPP (both the custodians and Koreans were beaten by the ranks), and no one gives money ....
          1. +12
            9 January 2013 17: 05
            The fact that the Ignalina NPP was closed is said loudly! The closing process is slowed down due to lack of funds! The EU needed the nuclear power plant to be dismantled to such a state that it could not be started up. They gave money, most of which was plundered, but the goals were achieved. Then the EU ran out of money for this operation - close it yourself! But how to do it? There are no specialists, no money, let alone experience in closing nuclear power plants, and even more so ... So there is a crowd of "consultants", intermediaries, "subcontractors" and other semi-state structures specializing in "assimilation" of ES money, with spoons, but no profit. .. So they come up with new grandiose projects so that you can sit down to the "trough" again. And when you run out of money again, you can shrug your shoulders and blame everything on "the heavy legacy of the USSR and the intrigues of Moscow! Somehow we got information that there is an idea to build a small spaceport and a hotel for aliens, because if they arrive, then only to Lithuania, because it is Lithuania that is the center of Europe !!! .... in general, all the hope is on them!
            1. +3
              9 January 2013 18: 30
              The Ostap-Suleiman-Bert-Maria-Bender-Bey case lives and grows!
        3. 0
          10 January 2013 05: 43
          caesarean caesarean
        4. Hon
          +3
          10 January 2013 09: 24
          Quote: Petrucho
          do absolutely everything according to the direction from behind the hill

          We did it too, almost bent)))
        5. nutmeg
          0
          10 January 2013 13: 35
          The AEC was shut down under pressure, and this is a fact from which there is nowhere to go, as well as 33 more of our laws which had to be changed in order to comply with European standards. This is the price we had to pay. But the main thing is that we are in Europe, we are in NATO and we are afraid of nothing more
          1. Hon
            +2
            10 January 2013 13: 45
            Quote: nutmeg
            This is the price we had to pay. But the main thing is that we are in Europe, we are in NATO and we are afraid of nothing more

            And what was there to be afraid of? Russia probably))) We forgot about the Baltic States and think, but they are all protected from us laughing laughing laughing
          2. 0
            10 January 2013 14: 18
            Quote: nutmeg
            But the main thing is that we are in Europe, we are in NATO and we are afraid of nothing more


            In addition to the collapse of the EU and the distraction of the American slon. And so everything in a bunch!
    4. +13
      9 January 2013 10: 23
      What for they are needed
      1. +30
        9 January 2013 10: 30
        * In 1941-1945, in Latvia, with the active participation of legionaries, 46 prisons, 23 concentration camps and 18 Jewish ghettos were created, in which 313 civilians and 798 Soviet prisoners of war were exterminated

        * Participants in war crimes were prosecuted in Latvia until the collapse of the USSR. After 1990, the new government of Latvia acquitted and rehabilitated them.

        * Presenting the book “The New History of Latvia,” Vaira Vike-Freiberga called the Latvian Nazis heroes, and the Salaspils concentration camp, in which tens of thousands of people were killed, including seven thousand children and adolescents, as an educational and labor camp.

        Here is such the most famous guest worker in Latvia.
        1. AndreyAB
          +16
          9 January 2013 13: 37
          Daughe is some kind of joy, 95 years old, and who had heard about such independent states before, shit, chukhon, all - the Great Balts lived in forests and farms, but now they are trying to teach everyone to live. By the way, in Sapaspils camp, my grandmother was with my father and I will not forgive these bastards for the Latvian fascists, but I will also remember the Latvian shooters, all the more so as they call the heroes a new generation of impulses, that means nothing has changed in their heads and a blow in the back from such sworn, time-tested partners, you always have to wait and he will be 100%.
          1. +2
            10 January 2013 05: 47
            In the sea, throw them all pigs into the Baltic.
      2. +10
        9 January 2013 10: 37
        Quote: Narkom
        What for they are needed

        Here, here, it will be interesting to look at them when they’ll completely reach them that they didn’t fall, actually nobody hi
        1. +5
          9 January 2013 18: 39
          They have long understood. And the most logical of what could have happened happened. The able-bodied population succumbed to the EEC. To the slaves. And this is deeply correct, that is where they are dear. The USSR gave them at least 50 years of existence, because otherwise they would have been assimilated a long time ago. Well, now for a while the finish pushed back by the Russian hand came for them again. But they can’t see the Russian hand for protection anymore ...
          1. Marek Rozny
            +1
            11 January 2013 00: 19
            not only in the EU. Over the past year, I met three times five times in different companies of the Baltic states that work in Kazakhstan. the truth is not Latvians, but Lithuanians.
      3. +3
        9 January 2013 12: 11
        Quote: Narkom
        What for they are needed

        After the October Revolution, during the Civil War in Russia, the Latvian regiments supported the Bolsheviks and became one of the first military units at the base of the Red Army. They were the largest national military formation in the service in the Red Army. Used as an exclusively combat-ready force in the service of the revolution. The total number of 80 thousand people, whose average age was 23 years. The divisions of the Latvian riflemen were widely used on the entire front of the Civil War.
        1. +5
          9 January 2013 13: 42
          Watch the documentary "The Punishers" about Latvian riflemen. During the time they received all kinds of allowance and were used as punishers. they were in a foreign land. They did not feel sorry for anyone anyhow they paid deny. After the civil war, they were sent back to their historical homeland where they were safely shot.
          1. Zynaps
            +5
            10 January 2013 00: 04
            this film has the same degree of certainty as the work of fat Vova Rezun. Latvian arrows in the Republic of Ingushetia were the same citizens of the Empire as other minority Christians. therefore, to say that they were not on their land is impassable stupidity. and those same Latvian arrows were not sent anywhere, and after the Civil one, for various reasons, they ended up in Latvia. for the most part, they were agents of Soviet influence to strengthen the local Communist Party, which was under a deep underground under the dictatorial regime of Ulmanis. and documentary evidence that the red Latvian arrows were mercenaries - on the barrel. television whistlers such whistlers ...

            the actual creator of the Soviet military intelligence - Intelligence Agency (GRU) was one of the Latvian riflemen - Jan Berzin - "Old Man". Artur Sprogis - Latvian partisan - one of the organizers of sabotage work on the territory of the USSR occupied by the Germans and the organizer of the partisan movement. Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya studied at the courses of saboteurs at the Sprogis school.
            1. +5
              10 January 2013 00: 43
              zynaps, You are not consistent in your judgment. Latvians often "present" claims to the Russians because of the "occupation" by the communists. But who helped the communists come to power? Pubs !!! - Bayonets of Latvian Riflemen! bully Soffits. Fanfare. Prolonged applause. (very, very much contributed, "not the last" role played, far from "not the last" ....)
              Let's put the points on y & i ?! Or Latvians "were the same citizens of the Empire" and they themselves "served" by bringing the communists to power ... But then what kind of occupation by the communists are we talking about? Themselves established such a power, and themselves and disentangled.
              Either Latvians are not morally vicious, like saints, but then there is a problem with "not vicious Latvian Riflemen", in the context of the Civil War in Russia ... OOPS !, with purity, somehow a discrepancy came out .... lol

              Who should make a complaint to anyone? In short, Gogol wrote about them: there is no reason to blame the mirror, if the mug is crooked.
              1. +2
                10 January 2013 20: 35
                Yes you stop !!!! Not that they will remember that Rurik didn’t pay the toll and Peter! in the tavern, having a bite of sprats, he looked at the Latvian girl not as it was appropriate to look at the lower being at the personification of the Aryan race, than deeply offended her feelings as a Citizen of Free Europe ...... And finally return all the remaining radiols !!!! There were many precious metals mined throughout the USSR. You do not need them, and Latvians are patient, calm people. You look - on a part of a debt and will collect.
        2. 0
          10 January 2013 17: 38
          Nat formations were on both sides, for example, there were more white ones.
    5. -10
      9 January 2013 10: 45
      Do not crawl. Forget everything about Latvia. I served 3 years in the chic city of Liepaja. And now I have an apartment there, overlooking the sea. All summer there. Yes, many Latvians left the country. Mostly men. This is not bad by the way, I walk around the city, just chicks. Shops are littered with local food, especially milk, meat, fish. Every morning, a local farmer's car arrives at the house: cottage cheese, kefir, milk, just that from under the cow. The city is clean and comfortable. Yes, there are empty houses that do not paint the landscape. So what? We have little ruins, but order, cleanliness, SAFETY. I’ll retire, move to live there.
      1. +16
        9 January 2013 10: 48
        Quote: gosha1970
        I’ll retire, move to live there.

        And what isn’t right now, to run like that to run, is it better there?
        1. Atlon
          +20
          9 January 2013 11: 10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And what isn’t right now, to run like that to run, is it better there?

          No no no! And what to eat? In Russia, you can earn money, but there only to retire ... Moreover, I suspect that the "tovarisch" will receive a pension from Russia, and from Russia ... This is the truth of life. wink
          1. -14
            9 January 2013 11: 33
            Guessed about the pension. I served my homeland, I can now afford to retire to live where it’s good.
            1. Vanek
              +4
              9 January 2013 12: 20
              Quote: gosha1970
              retire allow yourself to live


              Comment has been deleted.

              laughing laughing laughing
            2. +6
              9 January 2013 14: 45
              Greetings to all, you served Gosha to the Motherland, it is a pity that after the service you forget about the Motherland.
            3. +8
              9 January 2013 14: 54
              Quote: gosha1970
              Guessed about the pension. I served my homeland, I can now afford to retire to live where it’s good.

              Sound familiar?
              Not only serve the homeland soldier , in their native land they also die, with rare exceptions / but this is not about you /
              1. +3
                10 January 2013 20: 31
                Sorry, dear, but here you are wrong. Freedom of choice of residence is guaranteed by our Constitution of the Russian Federation. And if a person can actually use the guarantees of the Basic Law and choose to live where he wants, then I am happy for my country.
                After 25 years of service in the Federation Council, I myself will go to die in the Crimea - it’s warm there, there is my house, there is my mother!
            4. -1
              10 January 2013 22: 26
              Quote: gosha1970
              I can now afford to retire to live where it’s good

              And there are also mothers who are younger, richer, and a pile of diseases does not torment them. So maybe you gosha and your mother as well. Well raised, weaned. Well, you’ll give her something sometimes. Enough now. I will look for better. So gosha? You weren’t interested in the Latvian milkman by any chance - does he just milk his cow, or does he still feed, washes, removes manure, creates good living conditions? And you gosha with MOTHERLAND is worse than with a cow. But you don’t want to give up your pension. Why are you better than those "synul" who do not remember their mothers for years, and in a tragic hour, a bullet to her, no, not by the will of the heart, but to share the inheritance (I, they say, a son) ?????
        2. -9
          9 January 2013 11: 32
          And here: to run? Do not run, but go to meet old age. Do you feel the difference? I hope no one will argue that we are not very happy with the elderly.
          1. Atlon
            +9
            9 January 2013 17: 41
            Quote: gosha1970
            I hope no one will argue that we are not very happy with the elderly.

            I would argue ... But I won't. I can only parry: "Children need to be raised correctly! And you will be happy in old age ... wink
          2. +4
            10 January 2013 05: 51
            And the labuses are very happy to welcome the elderly especially those who fought against the Nazis.
      2. +11
        9 January 2013 11: 13
        Here and die Gosh ... Do not litter here ...
        1. -7
          9 January 2013 11: 35
          And to you the same: Do not litter. And then you can’t go along Nevsky: bulls, grubs, bottles. There is no such thing in Latvia.
          1. +4
            9 January 2013 19: 49
            gosha1970,
            In the face you would bark, did not meet anything like Nevsky
            1. +2
              9 January 2013 21: 08
              Yes, you probably only saw the Nevsky in the picture))))) I don’t know how in Latvia, but on the Nevsky just now something began to improve in terms of order and cleanliness.
              1. +1
                10 January 2013 16: 34
                Ess-no in St. Petersburg in general, and in Nevsky in particular there will be more dirt AT ALL. Elementary, Watson-in St. Petersburg alone live one and a half times more people than are scattered throughout Latvia. We still do not forget about visitors to St. Petersburg. So the comparison is past the ticket office. ..
                1. 0
                  10 January 2013 19: 56
                  I lived born in the city and lived a third of my life, so believe me it used to be very dirty, now it’s less or less. And not because there are more people, but because they didn’t clean it up. Yes, and they themselves litter decently.
            2. +1
              10 January 2013 05: 56
              I completely join you.
          2. +2
            9 January 2013 21: 51
            Quote: gosha1970
            And to you the same: Do not litter. And then you can’t go along Nevsky: bulls, grubs, bottles. There is no such thing in Latvia.

            And where did you serve the nits, that they did not strangle you there.
          3. +3
            10 January 2013 05: 55
            Hey, don’t make people nervous, otherwise the Internet will explode and will catch you with fragments, ambitious. Do not like the dirt on the street, take a broom and sweep. In my opinion, the labi are fighting dirt like this.
          4. 0
            10 January 2013 15: 28
            Well Duc, why is it still here ??? Ali, before old age, was going to go to the grubs and gobies ???
      3. +9
        9 January 2013 11: 16
        gosha1970 "They will not crawl. Forget everything about Latvia." You are right not to crawl! - AND GLORY TO GOD !!! And you can perezzhate right now. Increase the number of the Russian-speaking population there. And that will be good too!
        1. +2
          9 January 2013 11: 35
          About the Russian-speaking to a point. A lot of our brother is there.
          1. +15
            9 January 2013 12: 16
            Quote: gosha1970
            A lot there our brother

            Your yes a lot. Even in Londrna your sit, meet old age.
          2. -1
            9 January 2013 21: 53
            Quote: gosha1970
            A lot of our brother is there.

            Your bgat, burry.
          3. +1
            19 January 2013 16: 55
            YOU ARE NOT BROTHER TO US. NOT BROTHER.
        2. +2
          10 January 2013 05: 58
          They generally do everything for a long time, and if you start to crawl, you won’t wait at all, so they always took the labuses themselves who needed them at the moment. Our kings in particular, Catherine did not even know that Courland was her citizenship.
      4. +4
        9 January 2013 11: 29

        gosha1970,
        How much are they paying for utility bills now? local ones, they don’t pay the Russian pension and you won’t find work there.
        And the fact that there are agrarians is not an indicator. Firstly, they became less in 20 years. Secondly, they could be an INDUSTRIAL country, but rolled down to the village. Soon the land will be treated as a mate.
        1. -6
          9 January 2013 12: 17
          The communal apartment is this: for everything-140 lats (about 8 rubles) for a 400-room apartment. There is no need to look for work in retirement. They would not be INDUSTR. country. It's no use to them. Are there many countries like Latvia INDUSTRY? And nobody will wave a hoe. Why is this Great Russian chauvinism?
          1. +6
            9 January 2013 12: 59
            It’s cheaper in Moscow ... Especially for the military! A relative of a military pensioner, I used to run for him to pay for the bank. With a banknote of 5000 rubles - delivery in the region of one and a half thousand. Moscow. Three rooms.
            Finns to them as an example. They traded with us, not looking at 1939. And the ships are built and Ships and baths. And fishing is class! Here are the people! And their country is cozy. So much for chauvinism.
            1. -1
              9 January 2013 13: 45
              I agree on the Finns. But let's not forget: they are not offended by us, unlike Latvians. And, with regards to the communal apartment: I have a 2-bedroom apartment in St. Petersburg, here in December I paid 5 rubles. and not pfening less
              1. +3
                9 January 2013 14: 03
                For Latvians WHAT to be offended? Did their fly bite? Teenage complexes? I’ll kill myself up the wall, so that my mom would be offended - that’s their life credo.

                SPb - Russia!
                I paid in the summer, my data is outdated.))) Now I do not know.
                1. 0
                  9 January 2013 19: 02
                  specified, for fun. in December the same amount as in the summer.
              2. +3
                9 January 2013 19: 45
                gosha1970,
                Brekhna.I also live in St. Petersburg, three-room apartment, three are registered, in December 3900 are not complete stop ],
                1. 0
                  9 January 2013 21: 10
                  where is such a three-ruble note ??? Again, fantasies or something ?? I pay for a three-ruble note with almost 6 thousand registered.
                  1. +1
                    9 January 2013 21: 23
                    I won’t give you the address ... okay? wink
                    I will hint extensively: officer. length of service. children are not of legal age. There are no 123 relatives registered at one address. own hut.

                    You already decide whether to pay for a three rubles or kopeck piece ???
                    1. 0
                      9 January 2013 21: 31
                      No, well, you can have some kind of small ebony, although I also live on the outskirts for almost three thousand rents. My grandmother lives on Nevsky, she also has about six thousand rents for three rubles, but there still seem to be benefits for the veteran.
                      Although it’s possible the matter is still in the meters with whom they stand, water is not included in the rent
                      1. +1
                        9 January 2013 21: 46
                        ABOUT! put unambiguously! None of my acquaintances pays the "technical" water consumption, divided by all tenants (like wash the floors in an elevator, oha! Shaz!) .... that wiring! so the counter saves!

                        Regarding my relative: no, not small e *** nya. great area!
                      2. +1
                        9 January 2013 22: 16
                        Well, we decided not to install it, I don’t know if it’s right or not. But we don’t have an elevator in our house either))) Yes, and nobody spares water in our house either. They are used often and in many ways.
                      3. +1
                        9 January 2013 22: 44
                        Then be ready to see something like "hot water for technical needs" in the bill. Payment is democratically divided into the residents of the entrance. And even for pensioners. And they can even turn it off for not paying. Everyone is at the entrance. Housing and communal services mulka. Distributed by budding in the left accounting department. Especially for houses with "no lift" and pipes from the same era ...
                        True, there may be consumption volume ..... the Olympic team does not consume as much ...
                      4. 0
                        9 January 2013 22: 47
                        just digging laziness in the accounts, but there is such a huge amount there. And why such a high fee, hell knows.
                      5. +1
                        9 January 2013 22: 56
                        Partly due to the fact that "laziness to dig in the accounts." Here, after all, it is like: either we save money, or time (to make money) laughing
                  2. +2
                    9 January 2013 21: 45
                    mehanik27,
                    You probably added electricity and a telephone, and my three rubles on Narodnaya St.
                    1. +1
                      9 January 2013 21: 58
                      no, well, if you add more Internet ... it will be like in Latvia ....
                    2. 0
                      9 January 2013 22: 08
                      no, nothing plus. Electricity is separate, the telephone is separate, this is plus almost a thousand per month. Plus Internet 1100)))
                      Krasnoselsky district
                  3. +1
                    9 January 2013 22: 00
                    Quote: mehanik27
                    I cry for a three-ruble note with three registered almost 6 thousand.

                    Do you have 150 sq. Meters or something? I also have a three-ruble note in Krasnodar, we pay for the experiment according to the full program, also three are registered about 3000t.r in winter for 75 sq. M.
                    1. -1
                      9 January 2013 22: 10
                      it would be 150, I wouldn’t be buzzing at all))) I don’t remember exactly, somewhere 80-85 squares.
                    2. Hon
                      0
                      10 January 2013 12: 48
                      In the regions, different housing tariffs
                  4. 0
                    10 January 2013 06: 01
                    the same story
              3. 0
                9 January 2013 21: 09
                This is where you have such a kopeck piece ???? I pay about 6 thousand for a three-ruble note.
              4. 0
                10 January 2013 06: 00
                Only the Moon is not offended by us.
      5. +5
        9 January 2013 11: 46
        I’m going to live in retirement :) What world are you living in?
        1. +1
          9 January 2013 12: 09
          military pension + deposit in the bank. Total: if you translate into lats-1000 (this is 60 rubles in our opinion) per month.
          1. +6
            9 January 2013 13: 00
            Yes, you are there, Barin!
            1. +3
              9 January 2013 19: 54
              dmitreach,

              He is not a master, he is a troll and a pees ----- bol wassat
              1. 0
                9 January 2013 20: 08
                so I say: "Master" wink
              2. +5
                9 January 2013 20: 51
                Quote: Old Rocketman
                He is not a master, he is a troll and a pees ----- bol

                By the way, he almost doesn’t lie about the amount: last year (I didn’t look at it), the American embassy posted ads for hiring trolls and promised salaries starting at 80 rubles. Apparently either the Americans are throwing money, or he’ll be a worker.
                1. Hon
                  +1
                  10 January 2013 13: 13
                  Quote: dirty trick
                  By the way, he almost doesn’t lie about the amount: last year (I didn’t look at it), the American embassy posted ads for hiring trolls and promised salaries starting at 80 rubles. Apparently either the Americans are throwing money, or he’ll be a worker.

                  He crawled on to the embassy’s website on purpose; there’s nothing like that there. What did a comrade smoke?
                  1. 0
                    10 January 2013 15: 30
                    Quote: Hon
                    there is nothing like that there. What did a comrade smoke?

                    not now. Please look here to understand what it is about:

                    http://moscow.hh.ru/vacancy/3792573

                    translated into Russian:

                    http://smi2.ru/OperTak/c565019#
                    1. Hon
                      0
                      10 January 2013 17: 02
                      There are similar employees in all foreign representative offices and large companies. By the way, the vacancy is only one and the salary is 82 tr not very big.
          2. +3
            9 January 2013 19: 53
            gosha1970,
            Not a weak deposit to see, I myself receive a military pension, the text shows that you are not even a lieutenant colonel, so the pension is not more than 16000. laughing
            1. +1
              30 January 2013 11: 17
              the text is hardly visible. I fully admit that the lieutenant colonel has a pension of 16, provided that he spent the entire service in his office, as you probably can see (the text shows), but the captain of rank 000 (2 years of service (22 years on iron)) has a decent pension
          3. 0
            15 January 2013 10: 45
            Quote: gosha1970
            this is our 60 rubles.) per month

            nifiga yourself a pension! general go? :)) We have a major - a lieutenant colonel with full seniority but without "points" - 20 well, sometimes with a penny, depending on the department, secret service, etc. Do you go swimming or something equal
      6. Axel
        +2
        9 January 2013 20: 20
        And the pension will be right with comfort
    6. webdog
      +9
      9 January 2013 11: 01
      yes let them come to us again! we are glad to see our brothers
      only they will have to fully and unconditionally join Russia not as a country and not as autonomy, but as a region forever and ever without the right of separation ...
      we will immediately save them all))) well, except for the Nazis. they will have to tight ...
      I think so.
      1. +17
        9 January 2013 11: 10
        not all the "forest" freaks my grandfather killed! am
        1. +11
          9 January 2013 14: 48
          For Dmitry, maybe your grandfather Dmitry was familiar with my great-grandfather, mine also crushed them and returned to 49, but apparently he was underdone, + to you.
          1. +4
            9 January 2013 15: 15
            My was connected with the fleet all my life, the Second World War almost all at the Pacific Fleet. Then the Baltic. Perhaps they were familiar. The main thing they did.
    7. VoStattik
      +2
      9 January 2013 13: 12
      Friends and this is their name ....
    8. Denzel13
      +2
      9 January 2013 17: 48
      Why ... do we need them? Let them creep at least.
      Before even starting to talk with Russia, they need to at least hang all the former Nazi freaks, recognize the Russian language as the state language, restore all the monuments to Soviet soldiers, drive all the State Deputies along their throats (on the other hand, it’s also good) and send NATO to foggy distance.
    9. Edgar
      -5
      9 January 2013 18: 28
      we won’t crawl, we won’t go and we won’t go. you have as little sense as in Latvia. and lawlessness and lawlessness many times more.
      1. +3
        9 January 2013 18: 36
        Yes, you still didn’t understand - we are not waiting for you ... we don’t need you ...
      2. -2
        10 January 2013 06: 07
        Yes, you go labuses where you came from, along with your mothers, grandmothers and your grandfathers polished into the anterior and front airways by our grandfathers. That’s why you are talking about labi slowly because you forgot to put something out of your mouth.
      3. 0
        10 January 2013 15: 42
        But from you there will be a lot of sense, as "cannon fodder" in the next shtatovskaya war.
    10. Mikula
      -10
      9 January 2013 19: 43
      fugas- saw the fruits of "nezalezhnosti" and realized that it was necessary to wait a couple of three years, and they themselves crawl to our knees))))

      I read this pearl, and didn’t come up with anything better than to quote the Ukrainian proverb: a fool gets richer in thought. Soon the Caucasus will depart from Russia, then Tatarstan, then the Chinese will take the Far East and Siberia - since there are almost no Russian population there. The European part of Russia will be inhabited by Muslim peoples, since Russians hardly give birth, and their numbers will only decrease every year. Name at least one reason why someone will crawl towards you, I think that the latter will scatter who has something to lose. Well, Turkmen is your everything.
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 20: 55
        Quote: mikula
        What is one reason why someone will crawl towards you?

        hmm, for example:
        - Do you want to eat?
        - where to sell the little that you produce?
        1. Mikula
          -5
          9 January 2013 21: 23
          dirty trick - do you want to eat?

          Well, like yes - Russia is the birthplace of food! If it weren’t for Russia, the whole world would have died of hunger long ago.
          1. +2
            9 January 2013 22: 01
            Quote: mikula
            Well, like yes - Russia is the birthplace of food! If it weren’t for Russia, the whole world would have died of hunger long ago.

            the whole world is certainly unlikely, but in principle, Latvians really have a choice:
            - buy food from Russia;
            - buy food from Belarus;
            - buy food from Germany;
            - buy genomically modified bush legs from the usa;
            Why "buy" at all points? - so in fact there is nothing of your own! oh yes, there is still a small problem - where to find money for these purchases?
          2. -1
            10 January 2013 06: 09
            You will die even with Russia, even without it.
      2. +5
        9 January 2013 21: 04
        Mikula
        But you didn’t understand anything ...
        1.Our women give birth normally, everything goes according to plan ...
        2. Everyone who crawls to us, we will shoot at a distance, since impoverished burials we do not need naker, and betraying times will betray more than once (this is about you and about you like)
        3. Those who wished to take something from us had a whole turn ... They buried everyone, we have a lot of land ... also applies to all other comers ...
        4.Turkmen are normal people ...
        1. Mikula
          -3
          9 January 2013 21: 33
          submariner - 2.All who crawl to us

          Tovarisch Podvodnik, you probably did not notice that the author indicated a certain point: the Balts rushed to flee to the West. What makes you think that they suddenly begin to crawl east. After all, crawling is always harder - knees hurt.
          1. +3
            9 January 2013 22: 03
            Mr Mikula!!!!
            1. Perhaps my advice, first of all, concerns you and your kind !!!
            2. I haven’t tried to crawl on my knees, so I don’t agree with you ....
          2. 0
            10 January 2013 06: 10
            They are needed in the West as well as here, and maybe even more needed.
      3. 0
        10 January 2013 06: 08
        And where did you crawl from?
      4. Axel
        -3
        13 January 2013 00: 21
        Japan will select the Kuril Islands, Khabarovsk is already Chinese, and in the circle of Moscow the reservation will be made as for the Indians
      5. 0
        15 January 2013 11: 04
        Quote: mikula
        then the Chinese will take the Far East and Siberia - since there is almost no Russian population there


        Are you worried that by tradition you won’t get anything? :))))
        You can’t wait for Siberia !! We Siberians are truly Russian (no offense, but a fact), for Russia we ... - !!! Who hurt the Germans in the 41st side? Siberian divisions! :))
        Why do you think we are few here? Kuzbass, by the way, is half plowed by open pit mines; population density is probably not less than yours. The south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, too. South Omsk - probably a little smaller. This is only in Kuzbass in the south (and even 30 km from the village - everything is so tight) Yeti lives, and bears are not like in cities, you rarely see them in the forest ... :))))
    11. 0
      10 January 2013 05: 32
      Especially to you
    12. wow
      +2
      10 January 2013 20: 50
      That's right! I, in the Latvian SSR, and specifically in Riga, spent the best years of my life. He graduated from high school in 1975, entered and graduated from the university in 1980. There were a lot of young people in the city, everything was "spinning and spinning." A lot of high-tech (by that time) enterprises worked. Now, communicating with my classmates on Skype, I hear the same thing, i.e. Well, it’s complete, there are very few people in the city under 40-45 years old, all the young people rushed to earn money “at Europa”. Something does not give off euphoria from such conversations! The situation is even worse than ours in Yandiya. Well, from what they wanted, they ran into that, that the Latvians, that they deserve it.
      1. Marek Rozny
        +3
        11 January 2013 00: 28
        I recalled the joke of the KVN team Astana.KZ in Jurmala:
        "We are sitting in a local cafe and cannot understand - what does Latvia live on? There are no factories, there are no fossils, how do they survive? While we were thinking, they brought us a bill. And then we understood what Latvia lives on :)))"
  2. +16
    9 January 2013 09: 34
    It is not in vain that the saying "I like a Latvian - not a big deal!"
    1. +7
      9 January 2013 10: 03
      A little bit wrong, dear Black Colonel...



      Like a Latvian Kui and a soul ...
    2. avt
      +1
      9 January 2013 10: 35
      Black Colonel _______ Except IKSA IGREK and ........ laughing
    3. +2
      9 January 2013 19: 05
      Zadornov, it seems, had a note on a Latvian taxi driver who recalls the Russian language in direct proportion to the cost of the cab.
      1. Hon
        0
        10 January 2013 12: 52
        Zadornov, by the way, also lives in the Baltic
  3. +21
    9 January 2013 09: 38
    But in Latvia they speak Russian best of all the Balts. Paradox - the worse the economy, the better the Russian language is remembered. Why's that?
    1. +7
      9 January 2013 10: 13
      Quote: basal
      Paradox - the worse the economy, the better the Russian language is remembered.

      Yes, they will remember any language, when there is nothing to eat, throughout the EU they crawled out in search of work.
    2. +7
      9 January 2013 10: 25
      Quote: basal
      Paradox - the worse the economy, the better the Russian language is remembered. Why did it happen?


      And you remember Kisa Vorobyanov and "12 chairs", when he felt an impatience, he remembered both German and English ... standing with an outstretched hand.
    3. rolik
      +5
      9 January 2013 11: 06
      Quote: basal

      But in Latvia they speak Russian better than all the Balts

      That's right, you need to know the language in which they will then cry and ask for help.
      1. +5
        9 January 2013 11: 30
        Quote: basal

        But in Latvia they speak Russian best of all the Balts. Paradox - the worse the economy, the better the Russian language is remembered. Why's that?

        Since there are many Russians living in Latvia, it is very difficult to olvate them.
  4. borisst64
    +13
    9 January 2013 09: 46
    I don’t buy Riga sprats in principle.
    1. +7
      9 January 2013 10: 06
      My family too!
      1. +8
        9 January 2013 10: 19
        Guys relax ..
        Yes, they will not leave anywhere on sprats ...
        Where is their famous Riga balm ...
        Where is their famous perfumery under the Dzintars brand throughout the Union? (Does anyone else remember this ???)
        And it’s not a fact that they are Latvian sprats .... People in Kaliningrad are not stupid either ... wink
        1. +5
          9 January 2013 10: 39
          Quote: submariner
          Where is their famous perfumery under the Dzintars brand throughout the Union?

          There were such perfumes, dear by the way for those times. The RAF did, hde that's all, only sprats remained, and even those rusty negative
          1. +6
            9 January 2013 10: 52
            and the radio tape recorder 310 !!! and Šilalis (the first TV with a remote control cord), although this is Lithuania (one FIG).
            RAF could be "Gazelle" in the vastness of Russia. (It was literally so during the Soviet era)
            Yes, there is only under the heading "mechanical engineering" which just did not produce. Even agricultural pribluda for combines.
            Even the electric train developed over 200 km / h and this is in the mid-70s !!!! (ER-200, and the Riga Electric Train 200km / h stands for)
            1. +8
              9 January 2013 11: 03
              All pissed away to please EUROPE ...
              And those guys are cunning, why the hell are they competitors ... give us your technology and get food from us ... Here the labuses actually live and work now .. for food .. yes, according to the old habit and for handouts of new owners, they are bowing towards Russia ..
              1. +1
                9 January 2013 11: 13
                otherwise they didn’t learn ... even though there was a CHANCE!
                why is the servant higher? moreover, I am not in the nationalist sense, but in fact of history. There was a CHANCE !!! they chose to be servants rather than masters in their own land.
              2. +11
                9 January 2013 11: 18
                Quote: submariner
                Here the labuses now actually live and work .. for food .. yes, according to the old habit and for handouts of new owners, they are being pushed towards Russia

                Everyone gets what they deserve. They wanted-received. All the same, the Balts never felt in the USSR, but they simply hated the Russians (the majority), now they drink from the well they spat
                1. +2
                  9 January 2013 11: 21
                  Read Davlatov. "Craft" for example (though there is more about Tallinn, not the point). There was no such freedom for a writer like in the Baltics - anywhere in the USSR.
            2. +1
              9 January 2013 19: 59
              dmitreach,
              Well, RAF, not a bad car, only this is a "screwdriver" assembly, and not a full-fledged car plant
              1. +3
                9 January 2013 20: 18
                Well ... not only. There, the story is quite worthy, with the proviso that the plant is integrated into the Soviet machine-building industry. Even our engineers were. They even cooperated with the Germans, back in the 50s ... They couldn't stay on the market - another question. All the same, managers-traders, establishing a "client base", the same is needed sometimes. With their understanding of "no smelling money" (it is profitable to cooperate with Russia ...). Here the entire Soviet sales market was broken, for the sake of nationalist whims, but they could not create a new one ... Now without a factory (at least this one) and without pants, but proud and with Vaseline.
              2. 0
                10 January 2013 15: 49
                Well, duck and this is not there, production facilities are leased.
          2. rolik
            +3
            9 January 2013 11: 08
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            There were such perfumes dear

            So under this brand not only perfumes were made, creams, sweets. Dzintars in translation - amber.
        2. +1
          9 January 2013 10: 42
          Dzintars seems to belong to the Russian commerce. It blooms and smells. Almost the only enterprise ...
        3. Warrawar
          +1
          9 January 2013 17: 13
          Quote: submariner
          Where is their famous Riga balm ...

          I have 1 bottle left in my kitchen, I’m drinking it with tea, I told my mother that I wouldn’t buy it anymore.
          1. 0
            9 January 2013 17: 17
            But I’ve never seen him anywhere ...
    2. avt
      +1
      9 January 2013 11: 48
      borisst64 ____ Kaliningrad sprats very much nothing good , without any politics, only something disappeared in Moscow what .Or only in my area? I do not take others. Can they deliver? laughing
      1. +3
        9 January 2013 13: 58
        avt, judging by the sentiments of bloggers, one can say: "He betrayed Russia! And how these sprats go down the throat!" However, in my entire life, I have not seen a message about an auction for the sale of a bankrupt state! How is it? Is the state bankrupt? What's this? Will the lenders have the right, in this case, Latvia, to level them with bulldozers and use this piece of land at will? And whether we should be so upset about some Latvia, personally for me - whether it is so or not, nothing will change in my life.
        And now not the topic: Baltic fish, in particular sprats, should not be bought, because as a result of the flooding of chemical munitions, the accumulation of warfare agents in this very fish takes place and this has a bad effect on the human liver. And Latvia has nothing to do with it.
  5. +6
    9 January 2013 09: 47
    Yes, adequate Latvians will forgive me, there are some, but Riga, my childhood city, is now associated with the game: http://www.mildaslaiks.lv/britu-pedeja-sezona
    What did they strive for? DEMOCRACY - Mlyn! In his best!
    Honestly, it's a shame. After all, they were a SHOWCASE of the country !!!
    1. Vasily79
      +4
      9 January 2013 10: 03
      Quote: dmitreach
      After all, they were a SHOWCASE of the country !!!
      And now I hate Eurozope for the genocide of old WWII soldiers
      1. +2
        9 January 2013 10: 35
        Exactly what Euro-ass.
    2. +6
      9 January 2013 10: 06
      This "showcase" and "demolished" the boss for these Labuses ...
      Stupid, greedy and corrupt nation ...
      1. +4
        9 January 2013 10: 40
        Stupid, greedy and corrupt nation ... they themselves begin to be sooooo aware. It took 20 years.
        1. +8
          9 January 2013 11: 34
          Quote: dmitreach
          A stupid, greedy and corrupt nation ... they themselves begin to be sooooo aware. It took 20 years


          In 1991, an extremely vile thing was done. When a referendum for independence was held amid the seeming unity of society, the Russians here also voted for secession. After which they were immediately stripped of their citizenship, and the law on the state language, which ignores the rights of Russians, caused the closure of the economy. Mostly from Russia. The situation was aggravated by the fact that transnational corporations came here in the wake of fat years and pumping money into the economy and for some reason declared Latvia a market. Latvia in terms of population and location cannot be a market in any way. When it was declared a market, and even in combination with nationalist politics, the country slammed shut like a shell. The fallacy of all policies of the past 20 years is now obvious. But to admit it as a mistake is political death. Yes, we were scum, let’s get out of this shit together, and you Russians help us with the ties that you have left in the East. But such recognition requires remarkable courage and breadth of soul. The current system does not have this courage. Latvia dies and pays for its stupidity and meanness.

          economist Elena Breslav.

          Compare for yourselves: in the photo of 1984 - the workshop of the Riga VEF plant for the production of the best telephones in the USSR.
          1. +11
            9 January 2013 11: 35
            the same workshop today.
            1. +4
              9 January 2013 11: 43
              Quote: Ascetic
              the same workshop today.

              They closed the nuclear power plants and now, without electricity, the paw. The truth is, why do they need it - the industry of all is equally ruined.
              1. +1
                9 January 2013 11: 54
                atalef, it was possible to sell the Poles for eurofantics.
            2. +1
              9 January 2013 11: 45
              Thank you Ascetic for such unique information !!!
            3. +1
              9 January 2013 11: 52
              Ascetic, good time of day, in some program about "20-year achievements in the Baltics", they showed a "miracle dining room" for 5 thousand people, at some factory. (I can be wrong with the number) I can't remember what the story is. The bottom line is that the dining room was unique. Everything was automated there. A whole automated fast food factory. There was nothing of the kind in the union.
              In the 90's, the locals all pulled away on colormet. As in the second photo ...
              1. +2
                9 January 2013 11: 55
                Quote: dmitreach
                In the 90's, the locals all pulled away on colormet. As in the second photo ...

                And sprats are getting more expensive every year. crying
              2. +1
                9 January 2013 12: 02
                FOUND! below the film laid out there at 00: 06: 50: 00 about the dining room.
                Documentary "The Baltic States - the history of one occupation" will remind the forgetful Balts that the Soviet Union gave them.
              3. +3
                9 January 2013 12: 25
                dmitreach,

                Dined in such a dining room in 1983. If memory serves at RVZ (Riga Carriage Works), his electric trains are still running! , Riga DGs were on the MOBDs of the RK "Topol", although capricious infections were, they almost stalled, unlike Kharkov ones, which threshed even in the absence of solarium (just kidding).
                1. +1
                  9 January 2013 13: 12
                  I climbed onto the factory website and was surprised ...
                  Press release of the Riga Wagon Works
                  Riga, 29 2011 June - What is it like? maybe I climbed into the old site? in the "news paragraph" (or "paragraph" to the plant?)
                  From the report:

                  Thus, the time bomb laid by the previous PV board worked. It happened that one of the contestants so persistently sought - Stadler, repeatedly demanding that RVR not be allowed to participate in the competition.

                  RVR as a general contractor is forced to withdraw from the competition, as its subcontractor Bombardier does not agree to comply with the absurd requirements of PV.
              4. +1
                9 January 2013 19: 26
                A whole automated fast food factory.

                Well, imagine a non-automated fast food factory somewhere in Estonia.
                1. +5
                  9 January 2013 21: 04
                  Quote: Botanologist
                  Well, imagine a non-automated fast food factory somewhere in Estonia.
            4. AndreyAB
              +2
              9 January 2013 13: 39
              However, "western democracy" is called, or, as the Latvians say, progress.
            5. Warrawar
              +1
              9 January 2013 17: 18
              Quote: Ascetic

              the same workshop today.

              Oil painting - the result on the face!
            6. +1
              9 January 2013 21: 30
              Ascetic, Latvia - Latvia, and it would not be bad to turn to Russia. At one time, working with barter operations for Saratovenergo, I traveled to enterprises that are very diverse and there are only a few now working that are directly or indirectly connected with oil, gas, railway transport, and partially with construction. Consumption in Russia is largely - imports of empty dollars, respectively, and inflation is not 6-7%, but you yourself know how much and the increase in basic prices is legalized by the government 15%, every year! What can I say! And you are all Latvia, Latvia. Yes, I do not care about Latvia, House would bring order.
        2. zevs379
          +1
          9 January 2013 13: 09
          Quote: dmitreach
          A stupid, greedy and corrupt nation ... they themselves begin to be sooooo aware. It took 20 years.


          Are we better? How many years did it take for us Mudaks to understand that we were at war with ourselves. The Labuses even fought with the "occupants", and at 93 m we watched on TV as the Supreme Council was shot and thought that Yeltsin was cool fool


          This is me about myself.
      2. mda
        mda
        +6
        9 January 2013 10: 54
        Quote: submariner
        Stupid, greedy and corrupt nation ...

        A nation? But do Latvians as a nation even exist? They ceased to exist even when they were conquered by the German knights.
    3. +1
      9 January 2013 21: 58
      dmitreach,
      I agree, Dima, Riga is a beautiful city, and ordinary Latvians, for the most part, are not bad people, foolishly and shut them up by "Natsiks" drinks
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 22: 04
        drinks One should have a tourist go there ... The city of my childhood is the same!
        And for the rest of the nations science, in the section "fascism. Reset. Consequences."
      2. 0
        9 January 2013 22: 08
        drinks One should have a tourist go there ... The city of my childhood is the same!
        And for the rest of the nations science, in the section "fascism. Reset. Consequences."

        Photo taken on a slide film. Riga 1985 (probably). Family archive.
      3. 0
        9 January 2013 22: 20
        drinks One should have a tourist go there ... The city of my childhood is the same!
        And for the rest of the nations science, in the section "fascism. Reset. Consequences."

        Photo taken on a slide film. Riga 1985 (probably). Family archive.

        Two deleted comments, I edited the photo ...
    4. +2
      9 January 2013 22: 35
      Quote: dmitreach
      After all, they were a SHOWCASE of the country !!!

      And what a country! They had Soviet passports and still dare to blather about "damned oppressors, a bloody regime and imperial ambitions." It's a shame that Russia, even being the Russian Empire, has never been a full-fledged empire. We did not have colonies and a metropolis that would squeeze these colonies to the bone. Imagine only a British gentleman and an Indian from the "untouchable" have the same passports in their pockets and their children at the same desk, receiving the same HIGHER FREE education.
      Balts were citizens of a country that the whole world respected and feared. Now they are free, democratic, independent and they have a prosperous state that not everyone on the map will find ... not Switzerland, of course, but what the hell doesn’t joke how sprat prices will soar! laughing
      1. +2
        10 January 2013 16: 02
        "Britain owned the empire, Russia itself was an empire" (c)
        Jeffrey Hosking - Professor of Russian History at University College London

        And so everything is correct, the Russians have always treated others as equals.
  6. demon ada
    +5
    9 January 2013 09: 48
    and then if we take for ourselves Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine, etc.
    who will pay the debts.
    maybe Mr. Putin is doing that economic integration.
    1. +6
      9 January 2013 10: 11
      But you're right, hell guy!
      They are probably already thinking - how would they be captured by the Russians again so that the whole world condemns us, hang up all our debts under this business, and then again somehow gain independence ... winked tricky Latvian plan ... laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    2. rolik
      +3
      9 January 2013 11: 10
      Quote: demon ada

      and then if we take for ourselves Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine, etc.

      What for we need it. As one joke says:
      - Chingachguk, the second time he doesn’t step on the rake.
    3. Andof odessa
      +10
      9 January 2013 15: 40
      You know, I will not say for the whole of Ukraine. But from myself I will notice. No one will now unite with Russia and ask on their knees. For 2 reasons. 1 Talks with us about unification are not out of a sense of fraternal, but for selfish purposes, to give your oligarchs what ours have not yet divided (if we had gas and oil, trading would go in the opposite direction). 2 you have your own economy, too, you can say no all Maltese, Cypriot and Anglic. where are the holders of major blocks of shares. (although something has to be said lately about the change of this bedlam that can be traced). So until you Valiant Russians put things in order no one will look for ways to unite with you. Try to milk yes, unite no recourse
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 16: 51
        But you're right !!!
        I envy those who live in Odessa !!! I envy the good .... Wonderful place ... The legendary city ...
      2. Edgar
        +1
        9 January 2013 19: 16
        well done You AndofOdessa! Well said!
      3. +2
        9 January 2013 22: 06
        Andof odessa,
        Everything is correct, in principle, but I can’t understand only one thing for you (and me, too) what is the difference: Russian oligarchs or Ukrainian?
        1. Andof odessa
          0
          10 January 2013 12: 22
          You know, in principle, they are right, the difference is not what but - your worms are closer to the body. and feed other people's worms before getting rid of their hard for health. at least we can influence our own (each pitchfork is in the stash) and we don’t know how to influence yours
  7. +11
    9 January 2013 10: 12
    But now, in the European Union, Latvia has unique European technologies for road construction and repair.

    Riga, Ozolciema iela, 29.12.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX (Riga. Ozoltsiema street)

    1. +4
      9 January 2013 10: 32
      So much for SHOWCASE ... so much for EUROPE ...

      We give their Geyparad along Ozoltsiema Street !!!!
      Enjoy stsuki ....
      1. +3
        9 January 2013 21: 08
        Quote: submariner
        We give their Geyparad along Ozoltsiema Street !!!!
        Enjoy stsuki ....


        September 2, it became known that Riga received the right to hold the largest in Europe in 2015 Europride Minority Festival. The capital of Latvia received this right in competition with cities such as Barcelona, ​​Milan and Manchester. However, according to a poll conducted by TNS and the LNT television channel, 78% of economically active Latvians aged 18 to 55 do not actively support this event in Riga.

        The US ambassador to Latvia, Mark Pekala, said that the upcoming Europride sex minority festival in Riga in 2015 will open up a number of opportunities for the state, including economic ones.

        “In 2015, Europride will run parallel to Latvia’s Presidency of the Council of the EU, and this is a great opportunity for everyone to come together, and for Latvia to become the object of increased, positive attention,” the ambassador explained. “They will bring many guests to Latvia; hotels and restaurants will be full , people will buy goods and there will be significant economic benefits. "


        My webpage

        1. +2
          9 January 2013 21: 17
          Ascetic
          I don’t know what to think anymore - you own and manage all information resources, you know everything about everyone, but no matter how your authority grows infinitely in my eyes !!!!
          1. 0
            9 January 2013 21: 24
            You were banned on Google and Yandex ??? what prevents you from monitoring search engines and also owning and managing all information resources?
            1. +2
              9 January 2013 21: 35
              mehanik27
              1. There is no ban ..
              2. I can search ..
              3.Dry from envy ...
              1. 0
                9 January 2013 22: 14
                2 Submariner

                1. Judging by all banned.
                2. Judging by all means you are not able to search.
                3 well, look here

                Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.
                1. 0
                  9 January 2013 22: 20
                  1. Do not be so self-confident .... this is self-deception.
                  2. I will not look, the peeper has fallen off, there is nowhere to buy ...
                  1. -2
                    9 January 2013 22: 35
                    You’ll go to the link that I gave you and understand everything, I have nothing more to add to this. I can only recall the link

                    http://nah.ru/

                    I would honestly say that you do not know how to follow links ....
                    1. 0
                      9 January 2013 22: 57
                      No comment ...
                    2. +1
                      10 January 2013 17: 00
                      You, apparently, are often sent ... to the site you advertise ...)))
        2. 0
          9 January 2013 21: 37
          Europride, the upcoming 2015 sex minority festival in Riga, will open up a number of opportunities for the state, including economic ones.


          Nobody has canceled the most ancient profession. Especially among politicians. Latvia’s hijackers considered it disgusting to have economic ties with Russia .... Now they will earn on relations of a different kind. There are many ways to make money, especially when pride is multiplied by 0.
        3. +2
          10 January 2013 11: 58
          ABOUT! We were still short of prostitutes. Soon, men will earn money with their ass. Well why the hell is this prostitute country. smile
        4. Marek Rozny
          +3
          11 January 2013 00: 33
          Quote: Ascetic
          On September 2, it became known that Riga received the right to host the largest European minority sex festival Europride in 2015.

          Hyyy, and inexperienced Kazakhs achieved the holding of the world-wide exhibition Expo in Astana. Look at the Baltic states is what scale and landmarks! :)))))) With us, the steppe inhabitants would not understand why we need to seek the right to Europride :)))))
    2. +5
      9 January 2013 10: 43
      Quote: Ascetic

      But now, in the European Union, Latvia has unique European technologies for road construction and repair.

      Boo ha ha wassat They say that according to EU norms they make roads, these are the norms. I see the skating rinks turned into scrap laughing
      1. 0
        10 January 2013 07: 42
        Something I did not understand why I received a warning. Not expressed obscenities, picked up truthful words.
        1. +1
          10 January 2013 08: 03
          Quote: sasha.28blaga

          Something I did not understand why I received a warning

          I sent you the words for which you received a warning. What is not clear?
    3. webdog
      +5
      9 January 2013 11: 09
      Ascetic, thank you, amused in the morning!
      he laughed to tears and showed his girlfriend - did not believe that this can be so in Latvia)))))
    4. rolik
      +2
      9 January 2013 11: 13
      Quote: Ascetic
      Ascetic

      Some needlewomen do the same with us. I myself saw how mud ... were laid in the snow. I wouldn't give a single road contract for this kind of asphalt. But .... we, according to the same Balts, are "unwashed Russia" and these are "CIVILIZED" Europeans. And so to repair the road, it's bad manners.
    5. 0
      9 January 2013 21: 54
      Quote: Ascetic
      But now, in the European Union, Latvia has unique European technologies for road construction and repair.


      Ryazan has more unique technologies. We just pour gravel with such Makar, without asphalt smile
    6. Axel
      0
      13 January 2013 00: 27
      [media = http: //www.nakanune.tv/video/show/3170? id = 3404]
      Residents of Yekaterinburg once again witnessed the laying of asphalt in bad weather. If earlier the road workers repaired the road under heavy rain, now they are laying asphalt directly on the snow. City Manager
    7. Axel
      +1
      13 January 2013 00: 30

      Residents of Yekaterinburg once again witnessed the laying of asphalt in bad weather. If earlier the road workers repaired the road under heavy rain, now they are laying asphalt directly on the snow.
  8. +2
    9 January 2013 10: 13
    "... the Latvian" brothers "were not gifted with money, but credited."
    "2,07 million is exactly the demographic level that corresponded to Latvia in 1940-1944."
    Conclusion: Lord Crusaders take revenge - to return Livonia. There were no Latvians and Estonians in it ...
  9. +6
    9 January 2013 10: 17
    Hike their holiday will be "with tears in their eyes", and from what everyone thinks out. The same one must be so stupid as to screw up the industry left over from the "occupation". So let them eat the fruits of their crooked hands and stupid brains. And this time Russia has nothing to do with it.
    When there is nothing to eat, they will still moan at Putin and Lukashenka "take us to the Eurasian Economic Community and the Customs Union, we are your former brothers" itit.
    1. +3
      9 January 2013 10: 26
      Yes, they don’t know how to munch ...
      They’ve already tried all the ways to get hold of money in Russia — they asked quietly for a loan, offered some (I don’t remember now) joint projects (so that Russia would only give money), they simply blackmailed with the damage for allegedly some kind of occupation ... The Estonians went the farthest, they just stopped paying for gas .. and sued Gazprom ...
      1. +6
        9 January 2013 10: 47
        By the way, quite recently, Estonians seriously offered their services to Russia to protect the threads of the Nord Stream with the help of some super-duper divers ...
        I am tormented by the question: From whom did they intend to protect him ???
        From mutant jellyfish ???
        I can imagine how the Chukhons are stopping the illegal underwater inset from the side (scary to think) of hungry and drunk Russian submariners who, due to perpetual underfunding, decided to engage in gas smuggling to outcast countries, and specifically to North Korea ....
        Which on this gas is testing its intercontinental missiles, cherishing instability around the world and the light of democracy and the hope of the entire planet-usa ...
        Brave Chukhon guys save the world and get a sweet pie from the USA ...
        Happy end.
        1. +3
          9 January 2013 10: 57
          Quote: submariner
          I am tormented by the question: From whom did they intend to protect him ???


          From ourselves. Or from subversive jambs sprat.
        2. +3
          9 January 2013 11: 48
          Quote: submariner
          By the way, quite recently, Estonians seriously offered their services to Russia to protect the threads of the Nord Stream with the help of some super-duper divers ...

          Two hot Estonian gayts are standing at the post. The elder, Janis, was a little impatient:
          - I poit-tu-u-u, from-only-u-u-u. You are here so far pok-guard-l-l.
          He goes into the bushes, the youngest with a radar is aiming at cars. Then a foreign car flies past at breakneck speed. The younger, seeing the radar, shouts:
          - I-anise, he is above-speed forces !!! What about de-e-l-la-at?
          - What about t-you st-to-and-shh, st-trill-ah !!!
          Bang, bang
          - T-that is not in me, I-shoot. According to the number of st-treleys!
          Bang, bang
          - T-ta-n-on-on-ah-ah-ah-count-le-esam !!
          !
    2. sq
      +4
      9 January 2013 10: 57
      Those in power will always have something to eat. And so they pissed away everything long ago With them it is only necessary in amerovski: "Pure business and nothing personal"
      By the way, Lukashenko has a good lever for them (I no longer remember Latvia or Lithuania) - transshipment of potash fertilizers, which provides, like, up to 25% if I am not mistaken for state revenue. And last year, he moved them (talk about redirecting the flow of potash fertilizers through St. Petersburg, although this is more like an epic with Venezuelan oil).
      1. +1
        9 January 2013 11: 12
        Well done Luka ...
      2. +3
        9 January 2013 12: 15
        Both Lithuania and Latvia.
        Until 2009, they shipped through Ventspils, Latvia. Then these gavriks decided to earn extra money during the crisis and raised the railway. tariffs 4 (!) times and port charges.
        And why, Lukashenko began to ship through Klaipeda, Lithuania.
        Yes, indeed, for some and for others, these are substantial revenues to the treasury.
        So these European brothers for the Belarusian transit were bitten. Every month, ministers came to Minsk from some of them.
        As a result, shipment goes through both ports in the proportion 3/1 of Klaipeda and Ventspils, respectively.
        Something like this )))
        1. +5
          9 January 2013 12: 47
          Luke NAGIBATOR !!!
  10. +4
    9 January 2013 11: 06
    No, colleagues, the West will not leave Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Romania ... and as they say, further with all the stops. It is not a matter of care and love. They need a buffer, slaves, lackeys ... whatever. Naturally, no one will give fat. Well, they will throw a bit, they will appoint a new Vaira Vike-Freiberga, or someone else there to bark at Russia, or there, by the whistle, something else ... The dog is shorter. Like they are not (USA, Germany, France ...) but countries young demogogiessorry, democracy. And they will pull this rubber until they themselves get tired. Russia is their enemy - FOREVER.
    1. +2
      9 January 2013 11: 17
      They (amers and advanced Europeans) need a simple, stupid and not asking unnecessary questions trivial CANNON MEAT ... as was the case with Georgia ..
    2. +4
      9 January 2013 11: 17
      Yes, no one argues with this. Geyvropy assimilate among other nations. and the country is re-populated, time is running out .... only if there was such a nation-Latvian ??? historians will argue in eleven years.
      1. +3
        9 January 2013 11: 59
        To divide the country into CITIZENS AND NOT CITIZENS is probably slowly, slowly amusing Estonian pride. Only apparently so (humiliating others) they feel themselves to be full-fledged people. angry
    3. 0
      10 January 2013 06: 27
      We didn’t leave them the same; they left.
  11. +9
    9 January 2013 11: 58


    Quality documentary.
    The documentary film "The Baltic States - the Story of One Occupation" will remind the forgetful Balts of what the Soviet Union gave them.
    1. 0
      10 January 2013 16: 13
      This will not help them, there is too much brown substance in their head to soberly assess the situation ... Comments by Edgar and nutmeg are an example of this ...
  12. Kubanets
    0
    9 January 2013 13: 42
    History shows again what the invitation to the "reign" of the overseas Varangians leads to. In this case, Freiberge. She drove the country into a stall at the behest and proud but independent lats are being sheared. How would not have to pick them up from where they took. From hemp and swamp
    1. +1
      9 January 2013 13: 53
      No, if it’s just to take away the territory, take all of us and let the labuses die out ...
      1. 0
        10 January 2013 14: 54
        Submariner, I support you! All the more so now Putin said that his Russian-speaking specialists will be returned back and given them Russian citizenship. So that the labuses will soon run with stone axes.
  13. Drappier
    +7
    9 January 2013 14: 04
    We were the face of the USSR, and became the ass of Europe ......
    1. 0
      9 January 2013 14: 09
      Well, in general ... something like that ...
    2. +1
      10 January 2013 06: 29
      Immediately Respected
    3. krisostomus
      +1
      10 January 2013 17: 55
      Somehow you are not very "patriotic" about the USSR, if it turns out that the face of the USSR only pulls on the ass of Europe.
      1. +1
        10 January 2013 19: 10
        If Europe invests in its "ass", like Jennifer Lynn Lopez, (the story with multimillion insurance), then yes. Such deposits are needed!
        Yet Europe is old-fashioned, with a "saggy" backside (never Jey Lo). What does the USSR have to do with it?
      2. Drappier
        0
        10 January 2013 22: 39
        Quote: krisostomus

        Somehow you are not very "patriotic" about the USSR, if it turns out that the face of the USSR only pulls on the ass of Europe.

        You immediately justify your flag laughing This is a metaphor, 100 people understood, and only one brake ...
        1. 0
          10 January 2013 22: 49
          Hear, not a brake. Go learn to reason in a reference book on the topic "rhetorical question". bully
  14. Oleg Rosskiyy
    +1
    9 January 2013 15: 41
    What is most interesting is that even when they realize that they lost when they left the USSR, they would blame Russia for everything, and the return journey to an alliance with us ...?
    1. Eric
      0
      9 January 2013 16: 43
      Unacceptably!
      1. 0
        10 January 2013 14: 59
        Well, what about the amers and Caucasians? After all, it’s necessary to show that they do not like and hate us so much that they would give us a few more loans and thereby get into the pipe.
    2. krisostomus
      0
      10 January 2013 18: 11
      You, dear, did not place the accents so. The exit of Latvia did not mean the collapse of the USSR, since it was almost 20 years without Latvia, but the collapse of the USSR meant the decision of the Slavic brothers in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. The Central Asian republics did not go anywhere at all - they simply "left". That is why Latvians can ask with no less reason - did Russia forcefully expel by dispersing the Union?
      1. 0
        10 January 2013 19: 02
        If you follow this logic, then World War II (not to be confused with the Second World War) began with the German attack on the USSR on June 22 ...
  15. +2
    9 January 2013 16: 52
    And to hell with them. Let them live as they want. And without the Balts there are enough of their problems.
  16. +2
    9 January 2013 17: 27
    Latvia, in principle, as a territory, is very attractive in terms of its geopolitical location, but as a country full of 3,14 inhabitants! Latvians are mostly morons, just like farm laborers in their worldview they are, hidden coprophages only know how to poke around in their shit, and then it throw in the neighbors! Ugh dirty tricks!
  17. clinic1
    +3
    9 January 2013 19: 20
    I probably have a rather negative attitude towards Latvia ... And it seems to me that everything is to blame for the attitude to history, to veterans of the Great Patriotic War ... But on the other hand: do you and me that in Russia and in Ukraine they don’t the same things ...? Well, we don’t have the same shaved neo-fascists (and this is there (!) Where it is not officially supported, unlike Latvia), we have collective farms blooming ... we don’t have people going to Europe, which would make a living there ... ??? They attacked Goshu ... they say that the traitor wanted to go to retire in Latvia ...! And what is so true GOSHA is wrong ...? His only desire is to live on a well-deserved rest in the distance, as he correctly said, from dirt, cigarette butts ... And from this, by the way, we also can not get out !!!
    1. +3
      10 January 2013 11: 09
      Thanks, Blade. I understood everything correctly. How everyone attacked me, sheer malice, as on the posters of Kukryniksy about fascists. But I did not call anyone, did not offend. For some reason, people are not afraid of being rude over their eyes, they understand that they will not break their nose, they are incognito. Here, from this aggression, and dirt on our streets, including. And where do I live, and my family is my business. Envy is not good
      1. clinic1
        +2
        10 January 2013 19: 57
        What is disgusting is that if you offer such a "patriotic talker" to live on a good pension, even in Lithuania, even in the USA, they will agree without even thinking! All this is human envy ...
  18. +1
    9 January 2013 20: 13
    Yes, he lives normally in Lavia, someone is worse ... someone is better, in short, like everywhere else, current on smaller geographical scales, the only thing that catches your eye ... is that the concept of MOTHERLAND and LOVE FOR MOTHERLAND is degraded in a frightening tempe ...
    1. 0
      9 January 2013 20: 25
      So in Eritrea, too, probably good ... climbed on a palm tree - ate a banana. Lafa!
      In Latvia, there was such a potential - to become like Finland, or maybe cooler! But, on free grandmas, quickly sit down in taverns .... Only a hangover remains.
      1. +2
        9 January 2013 20: 52
        As in the beginning of the 90s one old, old Latvian man showed after declaring independence ... WHERE ARE WE GETTING FROM THE SUBMARINE!, And really where ?, the sea to the left is right Russia .....
        1. +1
          9 January 2013 21: 41
          Boskso what options? Open the window on the submarine and drown?
          1. 0
            9 January 2013 22: 05
            There are NO window vents on the boat !!!!!!!!!!!
            1. +2
              9 January 2013 22: 11
              submariner, about the window is from a joke wink laughing
              Riga, 1985 (probably) View from the Republic of Kazakhstan on the Gorky Bridge (aka Cable-stayed Bridge). Family archive.
              What kind of diesel submarine?
              1. 0
                9 January 2013 22: 14
                No, I didn’t ...
                1. +1
                  9 January 2013 22: 24
                  so I don’t know ... (((
                  1. +1
                    9 January 2013 22: 31
                    Oh, how you bought me !!!!!!!!
                    And how ashamed I am !!!
                    1. +3
                      9 January 2013 22: 36
                      C'mon, from this angle it’s problematic to determine ...
                      Here with the Flag of the Navy of the USSR, for nostalgia.
                      Navy Day.
                      1. +1
                        9 January 2013 23: 01
                        Well, how can I express my gratitude to you !!!!
                        I am very pleased and interested to communicate with you !!!
                        Thank you !!! You pinned me 2 times today ....
                        laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                      2. +1
                        9 January 2013 23: 15
                        Thank you for the words. drinks
                        Well, here's another joke.
                      3. 0
                        9 January 2013 23: 30
                        Frankly, I didn’t understand anything: Bulgarians, Czechs, Hans, Logs and someone else ....
                      4. 0
                        10 January 2013 00: 18
                        The same holiday. From the same film. Warsaw Pact countries. These are they to us for a holiday, to visit.
                        Fenders throwing competition. laughing
            2. 0
              10 January 2013 16: 17
              The hole will be checked on board.
          2. 0
            10 January 2013 00: 58
            Well, with a small window, it’s a bit overkill ... let's say that some of the former republics of the twin city scored an outrageous ballast and someone needs help to blow through the tanks ... and someone else but the West ... I doubt that I will provide this help ...
            1. 0
              10 January 2013 13: 12
              I believe that Russia will help the former republics of the USSR.
              Council. The first of them was announced long ago. "Not citizens".
              1. 0
                10 January 2013 20: 15
                Russia always helps its neighbors, and with this it has only claims against it ... it is destined to forever bear this burden ...
  19. +2
    9 January 2013 21: 59
    The West, or rather the states, the Baltics and the Balts need an umbrella like a fish. They need territory to build bases to threaten Russia, which is rising from its knees. But when she gets up, and I have no doubt about it, like everyone present here, then it will become clear how much Western "freedom" and "democracy" cost.
    1. +1
      10 January 2013 00: 51
      The states need a mess on the border .... and preferably an adjustable mess.
    2. 0
      10 January 2013 16: 18
      Duck has already seen on the example of Georgia the whole price of Western promises.
  20. penyvr
    +1
    9 January 2013 23: 07
    Russians come to us in Russia, although it’s dull, but not like you have in Latvia !! and those neo-fascists let them rot in their hole
    1. 0
      10 January 2013 15: 03
      I have a suggestion: To make the Baltic States a new GULAG for neo-fascists, but before that, return all Russians to Russia.
  21. +1
    9 January 2013 23: 27
    And I really liked the Latvians. In the 80s, I often went to Latvia in the service. Very kind, calm, hardworking, cultured people. I would be happy to live in the same country with these people. For some reason they are prettier to me than western fraternal Ukraine.
    1. 0
      10 January 2013 12: 27
      Quote: Chen
      And I really liked the Latvians. In the 80s, I often went to Latvia in the service. Very kind, calm, hardworking, cultured people. I would be happy to live in the same country with these people. For some reason they are prettier to me than western fraternal Ukraine.
      And you go, live. Just do not forget that in Latvia during World War II there were 300 concentration camps and transit points. And on March 16, go to Milda (Freedom Monument, in the center of Riga). You'll like it.
  22. +4
    10 January 2013 00: 11
    Black, they were fluffy from what it was during the Soviet era, and you were a soldier of the enemy army, and you had to be loved and cherished, because the chances were great, and they always slipped !!!
  23. arthur_hammer
    0
    10 January 2013 09: 49
    Let the Baltic states with ....... t, right now our ports with terminals will be completed, then they will begin to bark differently)))))))))))))
    1. nail
      +2
      10 January 2013 16: 18
      in Latvia, almost half of them are Russians. let them too, s ... t ????
  24. +3
    10 January 2013 12: 21
    The article is very superficial, the author has absolutely no idea that the industry and agriculture of Latvia have been destroyed for the sake of the EU, that the country is divided into two unequal communities - citizens and non-citizens, Latvians and non-Latvians, each lives a separate life, 70% of real estate and farmland already owned by Swedish banks. In the comments, comrades write "they will crawl to us" - they will not crawl. Residents of Latvia, primarily citizens, are spreading all over the world. Soon there will be a territory inhabited by pensioners, there will be no one to crawl. (Yes, and we are not an option for their youth, they have already settled down in Europe as nurses and plumbers.)
    1. nail
      0
      10 January 2013 15: 59
      Drive the agitation. I spoke with Russians in Riga. Nobody feels flawed in relation to Latvians! and they relate normally to each other. and they speak Russian in the city, that's all.
      1. +1
        11 January 2013 00: 00
        How many days have you been there? I recall a joke about a tourist in hell. About the feeling of inferiority of Russian I have not said anywhere and will not say. Latvians spoke Russian with your wallet, however, they didn’t do this ten years ago.
        1. +1
          11 January 2013 00: 07
          Well, for 10 years they still didn’t understand where their economy was heading and believed in something. And now the best way to communicate is through a wallet. So take a weekend, fly to the Baltic states, rent a room in a good hotel and relax in a good restaurant. And all of you there will love and speak Russian with you, willing to fulfill any of your whims, because you have money. And you will relax and become easier in your heart, you will feel like a master.
  25. krisostomus
    +4
    10 January 2013 15: 39
    I look from anger commentators just rolls over. Why's that? Why get angry? In terms of macro and microeconomic indicators, Latvia is in no way inferior to Russia today, and there is clearly more order. And then Russia is not only Moscow, St. Petersburg or Yekaterinburg. There are also Karelia, Leningrad, Novgorod, Pskov and many other areas - where the life of the majority of the population, to put it mildly, is not better.
    Yes, Latvians have the opposite view and assessment of some historical events. Well, why should it coincide with the assessments of the Russians and what gives reason to believe that the opinion of the latter is the ultimate truth?
    Perhaps 70% of the property is under the mortgage of Swedish banks, but the Swedes will not bring either property or farmland to Sweden. Do most young families in Russia have the opportunity to purchase housing without loans? No, but the "native" bankers will also rake up the percentage twice as high. Similarly with the cost of HKH - and in Russia they will be at world prices - a matter of time.
    Yes, young people are leaving for Europe, where earnings are much higher. But about 100 thousand Swedes work in Norway, hundreds of thousands of Finns in Sweden. Is it possible to say that Swedes or Finns live worse than Latvians or Russians?
    The conversation about inequality is also somehow not very convincing while the mayor of Riga is Russian.
    1. nail
      +1
      10 January 2013 15: 56
      YOU'RE RIGHT!! Everything is the same everywhere! And people are the same everywhere, mostly good.
    2. +1
      11 January 2013 00: 02
      Ushakov is an old believer, a hereditary citizen of Latvia. However, he’s smart man.
  26. +1
    10 January 2013 15: 54
    State from the royal test tube.
    Before the Germans conquered the Baltic lands (Livonian Order), Latvians did not have their own statehood
    As a result of the Polish-Swedish war (1617-1629), the territory of Latvia was divided between two countries: Riga became Swedish, and Courland, Zemgale and Latgale remained behind the Commonwealth.
    The Russian Empire bought back the territory of modern Latvia, which belonged to Sweden, in 1721 under the Nishtad Peace Treaty, including Riga
    As a result of the division of the Commonwealth, Latgale (eastern Latvia, Zemgale (southern Latvia) and Kurzeme (western Latvia) were annexed to Russia.
    Serfdom in the Livonia province was abolished even under Alexander 1.
    At the end of the 18th century. Riga became the second, after St. Petersburg, port in the Empire, the third, after Moscow and St. Petersburg, industrial center.
    If it weren’t for Russia, then the Latvians would plow at the Polish lords, German and Swedish barons.
    1. nail
      -4
      10 January 2013 16: 13
      Who cares who to plow ??? UNDER KOMUNYAK it was impossible for children at school to speak Latvian. that was nonsense!
      1. +1
        10 January 2013 17: 26
        GOOD Z ** tXNUMX !!!
        already in the third grade I taught two languages! (I don’t know at primary, studied in another republic)
        RUSSIAN
        LATVIAN
        and English from the 5th!
      2. 0
        11 January 2013 00: 05
        I lived there. AND YOU? However, it is impossible to speak "in Latvian" anywhere.
    2. krisostomus
      0
      10 January 2013 17: 25
      You, dear, you clearly feel the costs of the exam, otherwise you would know that with the advent of Peter the Great, nothing has changed in Estonia and Latvia - just all the German barons have switched to Russian citizenship. Even the laws of the Russian Empire did not extend to this territory, but the so-called Ostsee Law was in effect.
      As for the appearance from a test tube, all states were formed from some test tube. For example, France from the "test tube" of the Roman Empire.
  27. nail
    0
    10 January 2013 15: 54
    Guys, stop drooling with saliva-WE are cool, we are cool !!! WE ARE NOT Cool! USUAL !! LIKE ALL !! By golly! How children are measuring their pussy!)) I was on New Year's Eve in Riga. Wonderful people. Kind and very responsive. Although he thought that they would look at me as an invader. FIGHN! I didn’t notice anything like that anywhere !!! Really normal people !! And there are as few Natsiks as ours. Everyone speaks Russian. and old and young and are not shy. And
    they’ll do the right thing. And if you are contemptuous of others, they will continue to take you for monkeys.
    1. +1
      11 January 2013 00: 09
      Take a trip there on March 16th. Once again I say, they were kind to your wallet. And Russian (Russian-speaking) from the Soviet era in Riga was 70%. However, if you knew the Latvian language, you would have heard something interesting about yourself.
  28. nail
    +2
    10 January 2013 16: 32
    I can tell you about my impressions of the trip to Latvia: I spent 9 days there with my family. The first impression of Riga is really few people, at rush hour like in Moscow at 4 am on the street. Architecture: the city center is beautiful, like in Germany. The outskirts, like we have in the towns near Moscow. It is evident that there is not enough money for development. The people are kind and friendly. In the museums, my children, the grandmothers of the museum, fed sweets. in each restaurant they issued cards for discounts of 5-10%, although they knew that I was a type of "accountant". in the center of the city in a pub, we, the Russians, were treated more respectfully than the British. I met the New Year in the center of the city at a concert, it was fun and no one looked askance at me. The only thing I didn’t like was the climate in winter. And so, I would go again .. Respect to simple Latvians. Come to visit us !!!!
    1. 0
      10 January 2013 16: 38
      Oh yeah! The winter there is specific ... For me, -15 is warmer than -3 in Riga ... Sea.
      So the Latvians have grown wiser during the years of "freedom" and on the example of British "drunk tourists". They are disrespectful to the British, because they have such a sport: piss on the Freedom Monument, in Riga (Milda) to urinate.
      1. +1
        11 January 2013 00: 12
        Not wiser, impoverished. Europeans are awkward, and you have a wide open wallet. And the British just know the price to them.
  29. 0
    10 January 2013 16: 39
    This is nice. Was in Riga and Jurmala in the summer of 1988 - the picture was completely different.
    In Minsk, it is not recommended to speak Belarusian on the street, it is the language of the opposition. And the Finnish Swede Mannerheim called the Finnish language "doggy."
    If there is no difference who to plow, get a job at a brick factory in Dagestan ...
    As for the good and the bad. In Soviet times, I was in the Baltic states, Transcaucasia, Middle Asia. I myself am a Slav (Russian-Ukrainian roots), but I received the most ugly impression from my fellow tribesmen who grew up in those parts. Why, I don’t know.
    1. krisostomus
      0
      10 January 2013 17: 36
      Well, I like it, I don't like it - it's a matter of taste. For example, I did not like the Ukrainians very much during my military service in Liepaja. And for the simple reason that the "little fellows" could openly scoff at their younger fellow-villagers, which was simply not the case among the other "fellow countrymen". But my "like it, not like it" I cannot stand for the whole of Ukraine or its people as a whole.
  30. asf32wesdg
    0
    10 January 2013 18: 31
    It just can't be !!! The FSB has created this http://g2u.ca/s0ttp8i database about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries. Really was really scared
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos of a different nature) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...

    It just can't be !!! The FSB has created this http://sho.rtlink.de/FS62Am database about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries. Really was really scared
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos of a different nature) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...
  31. antinon
    0
    10 January 2013 20: 03
    In the days of the USSR, Lithuania. Latvia and Estonia were the visiting card of the USSR. Huge amounts of money poured into the Baltic republics with the goal of showing that they were living well in the USSR.
    I think that the problem of these republics is that its inhabitants (rulers) are used to living at someone else’s expense and assent to those who give them the opportunity to live like that.
    Currently, the situation has changed a bit. The Baltic republics are no longer a business card, but just the periphery of the EU, which in fact is not needed either by Europe or the Russian Federation.
    I have no pity for these republics; they got what they wanted.
    1. krisostomus
      -1
      10 January 2013 21: 24
      During the years of Soviet power, 730 thousand Russians from other republics came to Latvia, about 400 thousand to Estonia. This is approximately half of the indigenous population. All of them had to create jobs, housing, build infrastructure - hospitals, shops, clinics with hospitals and much more. All this was created for the visitors and no one stayed under the tree or in the tent. Of course, this required huge capital investments, but can we say that this money was invested in Latvians or Estonians? No - this money was invested in the improvement of its citizens from the RSFSR. As for the EU, even in Soviet times it was ahead of the USSR in terms of technology, industry and life. Moreover, considering all the former republics to be "freeloaders", and this is about the same as Russia in terms of population, then Russia, at least automatically, would have to live two times better today. And due to the "released" investments, the army could be twice as large as in the USSR. And why is she today in such a state without "freeloaders"? So there is no need to feel sorry for the Baltics - it copes without having a single gram of its gas or oil and buying them at world prices.
      1. antinon
        +1
        10 January 2013 22: 23
        So, for God's sake, you have all the infrastructure of your region left, there are no problems, you have joined the EU. Bottom line: almost half of your residents leave to work in other countries (EU, Russia, Belarus, it does not matter).
        The standard of living of the average resident at the moment in Belarus, Russia, Kazakhstan, is higher than in the Baltic republics.
        Whatever you say, and no matter how you justify your "European choice", as they say "Oil painting"
        1. krisostomus
          0
          11 January 2013 02: 21
          And where did you get such data? The average salary in Russia in 2012 according to statistics is 760 US dollars, in Kazakhstan 600, Belarus 210 US dollars, in Estonia 850 euros or about 1100 US dollars. In Moscow, the average salary is twice as high as the average for Russia, but the average salary is higher in Minsk, Riga, and Tallinn than the national average. The prices for basic foodstuffs are approximately the same in Estonia and Belarus; according to conversations of acquaintances in Moscow, they have higher prices. Yes, our utility costs are higher. For my four-room apartment of 80 square meters in the summer months I pay about 50 euros, in the winter months, depending on the outside temperature, 120-180 euros. Plus internet 8 euro per month. I don’t know how in Russia, in Belarus, yes, these costs are an order of magnitude less. Inflation in Estonia is about 4 percent, in Russia more than 6 percent, in Belarus about 20 percent. What you see as a lower standard of living in Estonia than in Russia or Belarus remains unclear.
      2. 0
        10 January 2013 22: 42
        but can it be said that this money was invested in Latvians or Estonians? No - this money was invested in arranging its citizens from the RSFSR.

        Wow! Cool. I did not know that the USSR were slaves ....
      3. antinon
        0
        10 January 2013 22: 56
        Dear, you either do not know, or pretend to be. People living in the USSR went to your republics to rest. And for this, all conditions were created. The population of your republics lived at the expense of tourists from the USSR.
        Currently, people living in Russia are resting in other places (Turkey, Egypt, etc.). Accordingly, the standard of living in your republics fell below the plinth.
        And, well, yes, you still rolled "Sprats" into cans. Probably not a bad thing on a national scale.
      4. Drappier
        +1
        12 January 2013 22: 33
        Quote: krisostomus
        krisostomus

        That's what you are ..... lying? wassat Where and to whom did they "pour"?
        Chairmen of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the Estonian SSR

        Johannes Varez (Barbarus) (1940-1946)
        Nigol Andresen (acting) (1946-1947)
        Eduard Pyall (1947-1950)
        August Jacobson (1950-1958)
        Johann Eichfeld (1958-1961)
        Alexey Murisepp (1961-1970)
        Alexander Ansberg (1970)
        Arthur Wader (1970-1978)
        Meta Yangolenko-Vannas (1978)
        Ivan Kabin (1978-1983)
        Arnold Ruutel (1983-1990)
        Find at least one Russian eh?
        Chairmen of the Council of People's Commissars of the Estonian SSR

        Johannes Lauristin (August 25, 1940 - August 28, 1941)
        Oscar Sepre, and. about. (? —1944)
        Arnold Weimer (1944-1946)
        Chairmen of the Council of Ministers of the Estonian SSR

        Arnold Weimer (1946-1951)
        Alexey Murisepp (1951-1961)
        Walter Clauson (1961-1984)
        Bruno Saul (1984-1988)
        Indrek Toome (1988-1990)
        Edgar Savisaar (1990-1992)
        Can go on forever laughing or will you try to convince me that the hot Estonian guys spent money on the invaders ??
  32. 0
    11 January 2013 00: 04
    Quote: Edgar
    You at home, on your land, as you stop behaving as the Anglicians behaved in the colonies, so everyone will reach you

    Well, Edgar, you started with sound comments, but then you blasted out the utter nonsense. We, Russians, maybe somewhere in the Riga park we hung signs "Latvians and dogs are not allowed to enter the park" ?! The British hung such signs in the Shanghai park, only there was "no entry for the Chinese and dogs."
    Can you give specific examples when Russia acted as a colonist in relation to the local population?

    But in general, guys, I'm not against the restoration of the USSR, but only without the Balts! Not that the Balts are bad, they are just too different. Well, they are in fig, we do not need any relationship. With Kazakhs it is necessary, with ours (Ukrainians, Belarusians) - this is without a conversation, with Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc. also necessary. And the Balts - nooooo. I was 15 years old, I worked as loaders (in the USSR) in a store. So there was one Latvian woman, she was not even ashamed to say to us children, "How I hate you Russian pigs!" And this is in Magadan! And we are still fucking bad. On my own land, this is allowed. Any flow of money from Russia to Sprotland should be interrupted. Which, however, Putin is doing quietly.
    1. Edgar
      +1
      15 January 2013 14: 43
      Hon. Magadan! Many times I have been to Russia, and in the summer of 2012 I was the same, stayed. And I personally had an opinion (and my relatives and friends I visited with - repeatedly confirmed my observations) that, in addition to the capital and several large cities (which can be defined as a metropolis) in the rest of the country (which can be defined as colonies) for the population there is no life.
  33. Marek Rozny
    +2
    11 January 2013 00: 06
    My classmate (ethnic Russian), with whom I graduated from school in Almaty, was sent to work in Riga in the early 2000s as a representative of a Kazakhstan organization. In the beginning I liked it, soon I even married a local girl. But last year, he and his wife returned to Kazakhstan. According to them, there is nothing to do there.
  34. 0
    11 January 2013 06: 48
    Quote: brutal true
    more than half a million of our Russian people live there

    Yes, what are they Russian? At the end of 80, they unanimously voted for the Popular Fronts and the independence of the Baltic states from Russia, depriving themselves of their homeland and citizenship, incl. and Baltic. This new Vlasov sample 80-x. So for their sins and torment, not at all sorry.
    1. 0
      11 January 2013 09: 52
      However, how categorical you are and with what joy labels are glued ..
  35. Durran
    0
    12 January 2013 16: 47
    When, finally, the Baltic states will understand that the West is not their friends. After all, a friend, if he is a true friend, puts his interests below yours. What do we see now. The Baltic States in relation to the European Union behaves like a true friend (infringes on the interests of their peoples for the sake of the interests of the European Union), but the European Union does not want to do this. So what kind of friend is this? More like a gentleman. We were one multinational family and the Baltic countries were like brothers, And Europe does not treat the Baltic states as brothers, but as an unreasonable child.
  36. 0
    13 January 2013 17: 12
    Free cheese only in a mousetrap. The Balts, like the Poles, do not learn at all - neither from their mistakes, nor from strangers.
  37. evil
    0
    13 January 2013 20: 31
    you just need 10 comments, but don't give a shit about the Baltic states ...
  38. dobry-ork
    0
    14 January 2013 12: 24
    My cousin lived in Salaspils. Now he lives in St. Petersburg. And almost every day he says how good he is now! If in Spratia he received 12000 (in rubles), now he receives 55000 (also in rubles) for the same exact position
  39. i.xxx-1971
    0
    14 January 2013 17: 03
    And I believe that if the Russian Federation determines its military doctrine and calls a spade a spade, then the sanitary cardon will shut up right away. Latvia is a NATO country. NATO is a potential adversary of the Russian Federation and an aggressor. In the event of NATO aggression against the Russian Federation, TNW will be applied across the territory of Latvia. In war as in war.
  40. 0
    15 January 2013 11: 16
    Thanks for the article, interesting, but I have to say - not completely: there is no economic base that is now in a country with an economy. According to reviews, it turns out that only 1 plant and 1 cafe remained from the times of the USSR :)))
  41. to4kavserdce
    0
    15 January 2013 17: 03
    The famous phrase))) "Latvian X ... Yes Soul" It says a lot, there will be enough pride for half of Europe, they would have been smarter for a long time living together and did not grieve)) drinks
  42. skychnii
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    15 January 2013 22: 36
    Stop playing smiles. Take what you need, leave the rest for food.
  43. namejs
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    16 January 2013 03: 10
    It is often said that enough to look into the past must look into the future. So be it, we will not discuss how Latvia became part of the USSR and will tell about these 20 years as a Latvian chewing as they say on the spot.
    We need to start with the fact that in 1991 the situation in Latvia was quite complicated. Vobschemta is the same as in other former republics of the union. Yes, the whole industry remained in Latvia, but there was no raw material for this industry as well as consumers. Everything was made for the needs of the USSR and such products in the West were unnecessary to anyone. And as the Academy of Sciences of Latvia did, many enterprises filled purely warrior orders. For example, the same VEF (Valsts Elektroniskā Fabrika) 80% fulfilled military orders. As well as in Russia, all plants ceased to exist. And there were no other problems for specialists who could manage enterprises in a thin economy.

    As for the article, I disagree with the authors. Then in order.


    95th anniversary of independence from Russia

    November 18, 1918 is the day of the proclamation of the Republic of Latvia. As for the RSFSR, Latvia signed a peace treaty with it on August 1920, 11.

    European Union membership status is a major event for this small Baltic country in its entire new history.

    Not really. But what about NATO and the WTO? Yes, and many other little things.

    to encourage Riga for declaring a final break with Russia and embarking on the path that benefits the Elder Brothers with an overseas residence permit.
    Sorry, but that's not entirely true. Mutually beneficial economic relations are constantly developing between Latvia and Russia. And here's an example. of the AMO PLANT enterprise that yavlaitsa result of investment in Moscow. The company produces buses and, in the future, tractors. And also in 2014 it is planned to start producing Uralvagonzavod cars in Jelgava. They will produce 2000 cars a year. Latvia is also attractive for Russian entrepreneurs. For example, the banker Aleksandr Grafin to the newspaper "Delovoy Peterburg" said that Latvia is heaven on earth for Russian businessmen. This is a country where there is no biracracy and transparent laws.
    It is the creation of such conditions that is the main achievement in the field of Latvian economy

    So what are the economic successes of Mrs. Vaira, who instantly gave the Latvian financial system such a powerful impetus for development?

    The author has a poor knowledge of Latvia since Latvia is a parliamentary republic and not a presidential one, as in France or Russia, for example. In Latvia, the prime minister has all power and the country's president has the opportunity to stop the announcement of the law and ceremonial functions. And of course, the main commanding officer of the armed forces. Vaira Vike Freiberga was simply a charismatic person who was even with the previous Guntis Ulmanis ... And her sharp rhetoric in relation to Russia can be explained by purely personal reasons. Her parents, just as she herself was a 1944 refugee ...

    And what does economic assistance mean? I somehow do not quite understand ... Cheap loans and investments (mainly in real estate) were not only in Latvia, but also in Portugal and Spain, and this is also the help of the hairy hands of Americans ??

    So what are the economic successes of Mrs. Vaira, who instantly gave the Latvian financial system such a powerful impetus for development?

    The author has a poor knowledge of Latvia since Latvia is a parliamentary republic and not a presidential one, as in France or Russia, for example. In Latvia, the prime minister has all power and the country's president has the opportunity to stop the announcement of the law and ceremonial functions. And of course, the main commanding officer of the armed forces. Vaira Vike Freiberga was simply a charismatic person who was even with the previous Guntis Ulmanis ... And her sharp rhetoric in relation to Russia can be explained by purely personal reasons. Her parents, just as she herself was a 1944 refugee ...
    1. namejs
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      16 January 2013 03: 14
      And what does economic assistance mean? I somehow do not quite understand ... Cheap loans and investments (mainly in real estate) were not only in Latvia, but also in Portugal and Spain, and this is also the help of the hairy hands of Americans ??

      And speaking about the economy, it is understandable that it was more than mistaken in allowing such an "overheating" of the economy. an 18% drop in GDP is true. Well, it is inappropriate to forget about how Latvia managed to cope with the crisis. 1 Latvia has successfully closed the IMF financial assistance program. At the moment, Latvia has the highest GDP growth in the entire EU (5,3%).
  44. namejs
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    16 January 2013 03: 15
    And speaking about the economy, it is understandable that it was more than mistaken in allowing such an "overheating" of the economy. an 18% drop in GDP is true. Well, it is inappropriate to forget about how Latvia managed to cope with the crisis. 1 Latvia has successfully closed the IMF financial assistance program. At the moment, Latvia has the highest GDP growth in the entire EU (5,3%).

    about DEMOGRAPHY.
    Yes. The situation is not very favorable since the migration is high and the redistribution is negative, well, this is a crippling problem. firstly, those who went to earn money do not leave forever. Many people so periodically leave and there is a tendency when people grow up because, as they say, there is nowhere so good at home. For comparison, the amount of violence.
    In Latvia in 1939 there were approximately 2 million people and 75% were Latvians. In 1989, there were 2,7 million people in Latvia and 52% of the Latins. Now 1,8-2,0 of the population and Latisheys more than 60%.
    Well this is the reference.

    ABOUT THE EURO

    help too. Latvia has achieved improvements in the economy and at the moment the situation meets all the Mastricht criteria (inflation rate, etc.) and Latvia will enter the Euro zone in 2014 on January 1. Another thing is that so many are against and even there may be a referendum on this issue.
    SUMMARY

    I believe that the author does not have enough knowledge about Latvia, therefore he would advise him to be more cautious. Since VO readers may have incorrect opinions about Latvia.
    In any case, I do not want to think that the author maliciously creates a negative impression of Latvia.

    I apologize for the mistakes.

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