The CEO of a Russian corporation called on men to learn to shoot and handle weapons

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The CEO of a Russian corporation called on men to learn to shoot and handle weapons

From school age, Russian men need to learn to shoot accurately and understand weapons. This opinion was expressed by the general director of the state corporation Rostec, Sergei Chemezov.

According to Chemezov, in Soviet times, basic military and rifle training was placed at a systemic level. There were a large number of shooting clubs in the country; people were taught to shoot at school. Then the situation changed. Many Russian men do not know how to shoot and do not understand how to approach a weapon.



Every man should be able to handle weapons and shoot in order to defend himself, his home, his land if necessary.

- said the head of the Russian corporation.

Chemezov noted that issues of shooting training of Russian citizens will soon be raised at the highest level, representatives of the presidential administration, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops and other law enforcement agencies will take part in their discussion, the state corporation Rostec also has its own proposals in this direction.

In fact, the head of the corporation did raise a very important and pressing issue. In the current global situation, shooting and military training skills may be necessary, and they need to be instilled in most citizens, and not only males, from an early age. After all, the world has entered a period of instability and the likelihood of armed conflicts in the near future has increased significantly, which cannot be ignored.
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    1. Msi
      +3
      11 October 2023 18: 25
      Chemezov noted that issues of shooting training of Russian citizens will soon be raised at the highest level

      Oh, I wish I could... I need to remember...
      1. +6
        11 October 2023 19: 01
        Before the Great Patriotic War there were shooting courses, Voroshilov shooter
        1. +2
          11 October 2023 20: 57
          Quote: figvam
          Before the Great Patriotic War there were shooting courses, Voroshilov shooter
          There were Voroshilov horsemen...
          And even Young Voroshilov riders.
          hi
          1. +2
            11 October 2023 21: 40
            Quote: cat Rusich
            There were also Voroshilov horsemen...

            My father said that all the horses in OSOAVIAKHIM had no ears. wink The cadets spent a lot of time learning to wield a saber.
      2. +24
        11 October 2023 19: 34
        Need to. It would just be nice to organize Free courses for those interested. And then I opened the website of a local firearms range, opened training programs... and closed it. The price is the same as a monthly basket of groceries.
      3. +9
        12 October 2023 00: 26
        what to remember? This should have been taught in the army, and not to train according to orders and parade grounds, but we were given 3 rounds in 2 years to shoot, but the VUS is a shooter, but there was a desire then, just give free rein and bp, but now why do I need shooting? I'm not military
      4. +1
        12 October 2023 10: 35
        There is a famous proverb: the USSR was a peaceful country, but they started learning to throw a grenade in school.
      5. +2
        12 October 2023 12: 12
        Quote from Msi
        Oh, I wish I could... I need to remember...

        Read the "Law on Weapons in the Russian Federation" and calm down. NVP + army, that’s all the state is ready for. The rest of the training and retraining, in places determined by the RF Ministry of Defense for mobilized, and KMB for contract soldiers. hi
      6. +1
        13 October 2023 12: 48
        Monsieur Chemezov would do well to teach himself. Otherwise, what a blast! Start producing modern and high-precision weapons that can be used without a file, learn to produce stable high-energy powders, high-quality cartridges, bullets, and capsules. Talk to your friends in the Duma and the Ministry of Internal Affairs so that they put the idiotic law on weapons in order and stop the orgy with shooting ranges. Otherwise, all Voroshilov’s shooters will shoot using smartphones. And don’t tell us at all what we need to do, and we won’t tell you where you need to go))
    2. +17
      11 October 2023 18: 27
      Considering that there are more and more “barmalei” on the streets, this skill will be very useful in the future.
      1. +27
        11 October 2023 18: 41
        It’s just that owning the weapon itself is a big problem. Not to mention using it against a criminal
        1. 0
          12 October 2023 12: 47
          I am considering a situation where regulatory authorities will no longer have time to check the legality of possession and use. I hope this doesn't happen.
    3. -9
      11 October 2023 18: 27
      Whom to protect, Friedman and his friends and other oligarchs?
      1. +15
        11 October 2023 18: 36
        Friedman and other oligarchs need to be shot. But, unfortunately, they have security, and most likely, state security.
      2. +16
        11 October 2023 18: 37
        Quote: 75Sergey
        Whom to protect, Friedman and his friends and other oligarchs?

        Think about yourself and your family first, don’t worry about Friedman, he will always find a place to hide.
      3. Msi
        +13
        11 October 2023 18: 43
        Whom to protect, Friedman and his friends and other oligarchs?

        Russian land. Mother, father, children. The graves of their ancestors...
    4. 0
      11 October 2023 18: 27
      Is he an idiot? - Why, then, in office?
      1. +9
        11 October 2023 18: 33
        Is he an idiot? - Why, then, in office?
        Because he's a devoted idiot. But they don’t take others there.
      2. -2
        11 October 2023 19: 18
        There is such a profession: to protect property! laughing
        1. +1
          13 October 2023 11: 31
          And they found some minuses! Property - it is present in any system... Whether private or public. smile
    5. +23
      11 October 2023 18: 29
      Given the over-regulation of the process of acquiring and storing weapons in Russia, it seems more likely that the authorities are afraid of weapons in the hands of the people.
      1. +9
        11 October 2023 18: 32
        Quote: zloybond
        Rather, it seems that the authorities are afraid of weapons in the hands of the people.

        This is the right way to think, but there is no contradiction here - they want to teach how to shoot, but not give out weapons at home :)))
        1. 0
          12 October 2023 09: 32
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          This is the right way to think, but there is no contradiction here - they want to teach how to shoot, but not give out weapons at home :)))

          What they want is not revealed.
          The state corporation Rostec also has its own proposals in this direction.

          If only these proposals could be voiced rather than poured from empty to empty.
      2. -3
        11 October 2023 18: 42
        What does over-regulation mean - do you need to sell fenced AKM, Kedry, DP, Maxim machine guns through OZONE?
        1. 0
          13 October 2023 00: 15
          I saw an American poster online with the following text: “Until 1934 in America you could buy a machine gun by mail. How many school shootings have there been? That’s right, ZERO.”
          1. 0
            13 October 2023 05: 17
            How many shootings have there been in schools?
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      3. 0
        12 October 2023 12: 50
        Overregulation (and most often just a madhouse) can be overcome. No matter how afraid the authorities are of weapons in the hands of the population (and this has always been the case in Rus'), the queues for registration and renewal of the ROC in the Russian Guard are not getting smaller, I personally observed. And if before there were mostly middle-aged and older men there, now there are a lot of women. Indicative.
    6. +11
      11 October 2023 18: 32
      DOSAAF to revive, accurate shot courses in schools: teach boxing, sambo, combat all-around: prepare men.
      1. +8
        11 October 2023 18: 40
        Yeah, good luck!
        It’s just that now private shooting ranges, supported by the state, will be hanged for this matter, and there will be more people around the neck of another parasite.
      2. +2
        11 October 2023 20: 23
        DOSAAF exists, but only within the framework of driving
    7. +3
      11 October 2023 18: 33
      Every man should be able to handle weapons and shoot, so that if necessary protect yourself, your home, your land

      - said the head of the Russian corporation.



    8. +18
      11 October 2023 18: 34
      Yes Yes. Even novice shooters have been banned from purchasing smooth-bore "machine guns". I was not puzzled by the question, is it even possible to use double-barreled guns? “Start training with single-barrel guns, and we’ll see in 5 years.” And not from the 18th, but from the 21st now. In the army at 18 you can have an assault rifle, in civilian life only at 21 and only “smooth” and only single-barreled, single-shot. And so, of course, train for your health, apparently with slingshots.
      Or does he mean the business of paid shooting ranges?
      1. +5
        11 October 2023 18: 38
        Quote: Adrey
        I was not puzzled by the question, is it even possible to use double-barreled guns?

        Can.
        After 2 years of owning a single-barreled single-shot shotgun or a double-barreled shotgun, you can buy a repeating or revolving shotgun.
        1. +4
          11 October 2023 18: 47
          Quote: Maxim G
          Can.
          After 2 years of owning a single-barreled, single-shot shotgun or a double-barreled shotgun can be purchased as a repeating or revolver shotgun.

          Well great! request laughing
          1. +3
            11 October 2023 18: 50
            Well, buy a double-barreled shotgun, no one forbids it.
            1. +3
              11 October 2023 18: 54
              Quote: Maxim G
              Well, buy a double-barreled shotgun, no one forbids it.

              I don't need to. I wanted my own double-barreled gun, which my father bought for me to rewrite for my son, now he will also have to buy a useless “single-barrel” for 2 years and only then.
              1. +4
                11 October 2023 19: 06
                Why buy a single barrel?
                A double-barreled shotgun may be the first gun for these two years.
                1. +1
                  11 October 2023 19: 38
                  I'm sorry. Read it wrong request hi
      2. +5
        11 October 2023 18: 44
        This is how professional hunters are immediately visible. 12k horn to the navel and a backpack of cartridges wassat
        And the result is the merciless destruction of empty bottles, flying jackdaws and the pursuit of hedgehogs.
        1. +2
          11 October 2023 22: 26
          Quote: AVA77
          and chasing hedgehogs.

          Hedgehogs are now angry... at hunters?
          1. +1
            12 October 2023 00: 59
            It's time for hedgehogs to hibernate, but these hunters got it. belay

            And I heard that in the Moscow region hedgehogs have problems with rabies.
      3. +4
        11 October 2023 18: 59
        It was after the Kazan and Perm shooters that the laws were tightened.
        1. +4
          11 October 2023 19: 20
          Not only. But because of a few Judahs, others suffer...
      4. +3
        11 October 2023 19: 18
        In the Army, at least under the supervision of both the machine gun and the machine gunner...
        In civilian life, only God knows where and how and what happened to him... to both)
        1. 0
          13 October 2023 13: 55
          What? Under supervision? On paper? Maybe! What about in real life? He served for 2 years. The officers were only there during the day, and even then, if desired, it was possible to take out the entire weaponry! What if classes? Everyone does their own thing. And l/s by itself. Go to the basement and sit there until lunch.
      5. 0
        12 October 2023 12: 56
        Thirty years with a service weapon. I went to formalize the smoothbore and licked my lips at the “Vepr”. Horseradish! Here's a double-barreled shotgun and rejoice. And you’ll come back for “Veprem” in two years. Fine? My wife, having filled out the documents exactly a year before me, grabbed the “Boar” for herself and is now laughing at me.
    9. -3
      11 October 2023 18: 38
      We know how to shoot, evidence of this is crime chronicles. Here there was a showdown with shooting, then there someone was killed with a weapon. The country is not recovering in any way, a showdown in the spirit of the 90s of the last century! The authorities need to solve the problem of training people a little differently and at the same time create a reserve in this way. To begin with, I don’t want to throw stones at anyone, but we have a very small navy, and there are an abundance of former military sailors without training to use weapons. Why not now, at the expense of enterprises, begin to massively retrain the naval reserve in the art of small arms? A hard worker goes for one month, and the enterprise pays him a salary for the period of training. And thus we get many thousands of riflemen, machine gunners, mortarmen we need now; it is possible that some of them, having received a new specialty, will enter into a contract with the army. Otherwise, it’s going to be a “turbine operator” when he gets a place on a warship if the return is already fifty dollars and a big beer belly! And so take groups under the age of 60 and train the necessary specialists!
      1. +14
        11 October 2023 18: 46
        The ability to shoot does not mean the ability to fight or simply make fire contact. In short, another in the series, but it must be noted.
        1. +1
          12 October 2023 12: 24
          Quote: saigon
          The ability to shoot does not mean the ability to fight or simply engage in fire contact.

          Agree . But someone who knows how to shoot well can quickly be taught to make fire contact with the enemy and conduct contact combat. hi
      2. +1
        11 October 2023 18: 55
        Thrifty
        do not start en masse retraining the naval reserve in the art of shooting

        reserve within the framework of the armed forces means - at the sound of a whistle, depart to the gathering place and destination.
        which is unlikely due to the lack of a number of people willing to do this. finances are more important.
    10. +4
      11 October 2023 18: 38
      With the current level of inflation and a decrease in social services, perhaps learning to shoot paper clips from a stapler...
      1. +1
        11 October 2023 18: 57
        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
        With the current level of inflation and a decrease in social services, perhaps learning to shoot paper clips from a stapler...

        A single-barrel "Turk" costs 12 rubles. It’s quite liftable if desired, but the thing is almost completely useless.
        1. +5
          11 October 2023 19: 13
          In Tyumen, renting a gallery for an hour costs 1800 rubles. - in this case, it is possible only from rifled ones.
          And from smooth on plates (1 plate - 25 rubles per piece).
          Plus cartridges - more than 1000 rubles. pack of 25 rounds.
          Plus the lubricant - I have VPO-205-03, you’ll have a hard time cleaning it after shooting, a lot of lubricant is wasted, buying a gun is half the battle.
          1. +2
            11 October 2023 19: 42
            Quote: Maxim G
            In Tyumen, renting a gallery for an hour costs 1800 rubles. - in this case, it is possible only from rifled ones.

            And only one. Have you even opened it? A year ago it was necessary to “nail” a couple of carbines, it turned out to be closed (“When we will open, we don’t know”), we had to look for options.
            1. +2
              11 October 2023 22: 08
              2 galleries (100 and 200 meters), but the mode of their operation remains unclear to me (this is the “Steel Passion” shooting complex).
              1. 0
                12 October 2023 10: 44
                Quote: Maxim G
                2 galleries (100 and 200 meters), but the mode of their operation remains unclear to me (this is the “Steel Passion” shooting complex).

                I meant that there is only one place.
                1. +1
                  12 October 2023 11: 29
                  For long trunks one thing.

                  From injuries you can shoot at shooting ranges.
      2. +1
        11 October 2023 19: 14
        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
        With the current level of inflation and a decrease in social services, perhaps learning to shoot paper clips from a stapler...

        There is an even better weapon: the good old slingshot laughing
    11. +8
      11 October 2023 18: 39
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Whom to protect, Friedman and his friends and other oligarchs?

      Myself. When the skill is needed, it will be too late to teach, there is no time and no one
    12. +14
      11 October 2023 18: 40
      In Soviet times, there were pneumatic shooting ranges on every corner; we boys loved to shoot. I don’t know why they liked going to the cinema more, watching a movie or shooting at a shooting range! And there were DOSAAF shooting ranges and shooting ranges where you could practice shooting more seriously, and for free! And now there’s nowhere to shoot with your own, or the price is such that I’ve shot it a dozen times and can buy a new gun for that money. What a mass shooting training. For this purpose, shooting ranges and shooting ranges need inexpensive ones, and a mass-produced cartridge that costs per pack, like a pack of cigarettes. (Damn, now cigarette manufacturers will see and raise the price of a pack to the price of a pack of cartridges :-) But I don’t smoke, if anything.)
      1. +2
        11 October 2023 18: 48
        DOSAAF shooting ranges with small TOZ-17 and Margolin are about as serious as a pneumatic shooting range.
        1. 0
          12 October 2023 07: 24
          Let them at least study pneumatics, the skill will still be useful
          1. 0
            12 October 2023 08: 49
            And what is not from a slingshot?

            The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
    13. K_4
      +3
      11 October 2023 18: 40
      And where to learn this? We can populate the maximum from the air.
    14. +8
      11 October 2023 18: 41
      I was taught to shoot from my school days. Then the situation changed. Many Russian men do not know how to shoot and understand how to approach a weapon

      Do authors even read what they write?
      Well, when it’s little things, I’m already used to not paying attention. I make allowance for general Internet illiteracy. -Tsya и on practically the same thing, “commas were invented by the grammarians.” But when the meaning is distorted...

      Who was taught to shoot? from school family?
      How can you simultaneously don't know how to shoot, but understand how to approach a weapon?

      If anything, I polished my literacy by reading Gogol, Chekhov, Leskov and Saltykov-Shchedrin. I’ve held weapons in my hands since the age when I stopped falling from recoil.
      1. +10
        11 October 2023 18: 56
        In Soviet times, literacy could be improved by reading any literature. Books with errors were a bibliographic rarity and prized by collectors. Then editors were kicked out with a filthy broom for errors that leaked into the publication's circulation. And now... What is published will be a bibliographic rarity if there is not a single error in it.
        1. +6
          11 October 2023 20: 17
          Quote: Warabey
          In Soviet times, literacy could be improved by reading any literature.

          During Soviet school times, my mother saw me at home less often than the librarians at the district library. “Robinson Crusoe,” for example, had one book on the subscription and you had to sign up a month in advance. The second copy was in the reading room - I read it there.

          Quote: Warabey
          Books with errors were a bibliographic rarity and prized by collectors.
          I remember sometimes there were little stickers on the last page indicating typos.

          Quote: Warabey
          Then editors were kicked out with a filthy broom for errors that leaked into the publication's circulation.
          I.L. Kirillov said in an interview that throughout his entire career on television, his reference book was a spelling dictionary, and for two slips of the tongue in one episode of the Vremya program, he was taken off the air for a month. And now you won’t understand whether you’re watching the news on Channel One, or reading comments on YouTube. -Tsya and -tsya, pancake...
      2. +1
        12 October 2023 13: 00
        What kind of howitzer do you have if the recoil knocks you down?))))))
        1. +1
          12 October 2023 22: 52
          Quote: Poloskun raccoon
          What kind of howitzer do you have if the recoil knocks you down?))))))
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          I have held weapons in my hands since the age when I stopped falling from recoil.
          How long does a seven-year-old boy need? I don’t remember exactly my age or the first gun my father let me shoot with. Most likely something 16 gauge. Hardly 12 - he was still young. I remember how “heavy” the gun was.
    15. +9
      11 October 2023 18: 42
      . From school age, learn to shoot accurately and understand weapons.
      . But I wonder, does Chemezov have children? Males in particular? The representative of the “Russian” aristocracy says everything correctly. The mob must be ready from childhood to become cannon fodder. There are still many imperialist wars ahead around the world, and the tufted cutlets alone will not be enough for everything, here all the nations of the former USSR will do....
    16. +11
      11 October 2023 18: 44
      Where to study? At one time I tried to find a local place in the Novosibirsk region where you could shoot a Kalash, including in bursts, and learn minimal military skills - there were no such places. And go to the shooting range to shoot with a pistol for 5000 per visit yourself))
    17. 0
      11 October 2023 18: 45
      [quote = Lean, but we have a very small navy, and there is an abundance of former military sailors without training to use weapons. Why not now, at the expense of enterprises, begin to massively retrain the naval reserve in the art of small arms? And thus we get many thousands of riflemen, machine gunners, and mortar men we need now; it is possible that some of them, having received a new specialty, will enter into a contract with the army. Otherwise, it’s going to be a “turbine operator” when he gets a place on a warship if the return is already fifty dollars and a big beer belly! And so take groups under the age of 60 and train the necessary specialists![/quote]
      I have a master's degree in "Operation and repair of KSTU surface ships." Like the shamefully drowned "Moscow". What does this have to do with enterprises and their money? Do you think a machine gun will help?
      1. 0
        11 October 2023 19: 42
        *Do you think a machine gun will help*?
        God sent a piece of cheese to the crow,
        a raven perched on a tree,
        I was about to have breakfast,
        the fox approaches the tree on tiptoe,
        and points a machine gun at the crow...
    18. +10
      11 October 2023 19: 09
      The CEO of a Russian corporation called on men to learn to shoot and handle weapons

      Did your weapons skills and shooting training help you, Mr. Chemezov, when you worked in the department that was responsible for protecting the statehood and sovereignty of the USSR? As far as we know, your neighbor down the street stopped a crowd of thousands with an incomplete clip of APS...
      * * *
      I will assume that today you are worried about only one thing - the return of power to the workers and peasants, which will not turn a blind eye to your education, dissertation topics and ability to personally earn one and a half lyama a day, and together with your wife - 7 rubles per day. year...
      Direct geniuses of capitalist production!!! fellow Leading figures of the state and who knows what kind of business....
      * * *
      You don’t need people who know how to use weapons and shoot accurately... You won’t be able to control such a mass anyhow... The lessons of WWII will help you... There, too, the soldiers did not know what to do.
      * * *
      There are such laws on weapons in the country (your MP friends have passed them) that owning them does not mean the right to use them in extreme cases, and their use threatens the owner with a long prison sentence. Thanks to my dear army and my comrades in the SMEs - they taught us, showed us... Fortunately, small arms have changed little in 40 years... However, there are problems with vision...
      hi
    19. 0
      11 October 2023 19: 10
      1. ""I can't understand"".. look at the expression on his face when he said this and + 5-10 seconds further...
      2. How hard it is to commit mischief, it’s still possible.. How the response arrived... So right away, why did we..., according to the law, we were not on private territory...
    20. +2
      11 October 2023 19: 15
      "Killed the Russian Guard"
      If he was on duty, then why wasn’t he sober?
      If a guardsman was drunk in his personal time... then he is exactly the same citizen... and there is no need to attribute the guard to the guard here...
      But here, as I understand it, there was a skirmish, which means it was not a guardsman, i.e. as part of a group.. These are different things, and in the very best case... the prof is not fit for duty/does not meet trust...
    21. 0
      11 October 2023 19: 15
      The devil is in the details: having the “Voroshilov shooter” badge was an honor, since it indicated that its owner was truly ready to defend the HOMELAND. And calls to learn to own a weapon in order to protect “YOURSELF, your home, your land” look depressing, since the emphasis is shifted to their personal safety and the safety of their property. But the Motherland was not included in this list at all...
    22. -1
      11 October 2023 19: 16
      Our fathers, the commanders, have been messing with our brains for more than 40 years. Their slogans were - we are for peace, integration into a free Western society, liberalism, democracy, the more factories we close, the more successful the fight against communism will be. And what does this have to do with weapons? Am I missing something?
    23. 0
      11 October 2023 19: 30
      Let the State Duma, the Kremlin, officials at different levels learn to shoot. It’s time for them to see what war is.
    24. -1
      11 October 2023 20: 10
      "so that, if necessary, protect yourself, your home, your land"
      He's right: not all men know how to handle weapons anymore.
      Opposite the kid’s apartment, I had to go live there, a guy lives there. He is an excellent makeup artist, but neither he, nor his athlete brother, nor their father understand weapons. My father, at one time, got a job as a cook at a military school. Formally, he served in the army, but in reality...he doesn’t know the service.
      But I know well: PM, PSM, IZH. (I was able to buy it for myself)
      Now, on duty, the DPR is again, but closer to the LF.
      If you ask me to characterize the situation.
      I’ll name the films: “go towards liquidation” of many different gangs. They will support, even Satan, but Russian stability (when compared with local conditions) “burns” for them
      And the “state border”, “Peaceful Summer of 1922” - sabotage groups are a common occurrence. Mini groups: 2-3 people.
      In some places they don’t hide at all: they grab flags and take pictures.
      P
      S
      I read from Tamonnikov that in the Second World War there were rear guard troops, there were “hawks” like the people’s militia
      They are sorely missed here. The National Guard at the checkpoint is not enough. Believe me, I see reality and I’m not going to embellish it: “the bitter truth is better” (I think Stalin)
    25. +2
      11 October 2023 20: 18
      A very complex and difficult question for Russia... However, the American saying that with the help of a kind word and a revolver you can solve the most difficult issues in life is not without meaning and relevance....
    26. -2
      11 October 2023 20: 21
      Agree. Here we need to take an example from Switzerland or some states of the USA where there is a real cult of weapons and everyone goes to a shooting range almost from childhood.
      1. +1
        11 October 2023 22: 25
        First you need to learn how to hold a weapon without pointing it at your neighbor’s feet. laughing
        1. -2
          11 October 2023 22: 57
          Quote: Maxim G
          First you need to learn how to hold a weapon without pointing it at your neighbor’s feet. laughing

          But look at the index finger. No one put it on the trigger
    27. +1
      11 October 2023 20: 23
      “Having received a certificate, the young man entered the Irkutsk Polytechnic Institute, but a year later he was expelled for poor academic performance - he missed a lot of classes due to boxing competitions. After that, he became a student at the local Institute of National Economy”...
      “Later he studied at the Higher Courses at the Military Academy of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces and defended his candidate’s and doctoral dissertations.”



      ps
      A man who has never served in the army for a day advises men to learn to shoot hi
      1. +2
        11 October 2023 21: 48
        A man who has never served in the army for a day advises men to learn to shoot hi


        Maybe because this is a person:
        This opinion was expressed general director of the state Rostec Corporation Sergey Chemezov.

        I won’t remind you what this corporation does, but I suspect that if it were producing chocolate, then it would talk about its usefulness for replenishing calcium and its very serious need in the body. After all, no one will tell you that calcium in chocolate is paired with iron and is completely useless for both replenishing calcium and replenishing iron. winked
    28. 0
      11 October 2023 20: 59
      Why only men? My women on vacation came from their dachas and gardens with enthusiasm to shoot. And they shot just as well, and from the PM, which, to be honest, is difficult to shoot well.
    29. +1
      11 October 2023 21: 17
      Yes, we would be glad, many people bought ammo since mobilization, but no one really needs us. In a city where there are several military units, and in the region there are several training grounds, no one can organize the training of the militia. Like, all by yourself, not up to you.
    30. 0
      11 October 2023 21: 31
      Well, the ability to use a mouse and touchpad is finally recognized as optional. Are we starting to make men from iPhone appendages?
      Isn’t it too late to fight soros meat?
      Last year I taught my nephew to shoot prone from a sling, he thought it was just... laughing laughing
      Next up is shooting from the knee.
    31. +4
      11 October 2023 22: 07
      He and others like him consider us dogs that can be ridden, that can be left short of food, and then tease the wolves and force us to fight them to the death. Fuck it.
    32. 0
      11 October 2023 22: 27
      Although I wholeheartedly support world peace, I cannot but agree.
      Shooting training will not be superfluous both for general education and for the ability to protect yourself and your family if something happens.
      By the way, when they talk about a possible war between the United States and Russia, they always mean a confrontation between the armies.
      And if we think purely hypothetically about a war between civilians, it becomes obvious that the Americans have millions of guns, while our citizens have nothing. To put it soberly, they could easily shoot us down while we were waving pitchforks and scythes (please, no offense or comments, this is unfortunately true, although this is just a bare and dry mental simulation).
      And in general, the fact is that most Russian people have not even seen or touched real weapons, and there are few training ones either.
      What we have is just a computer shooter chair.
      That's all knowledge.
      It should not be so.
      Let at least new generations be taught as they should be.
      1. +1
        12 October 2023 14: 35
        This “caudla” will not be able to organize at least an analogue of DOSAAF. These "smart guys" will always try to make their own business out of this. If not at the highest level, then at the regional level for sure. And there is no one to teach. Soldiers who have passed through firing points will not be able to, they lack “methodological” qualifications. There are not enough shooting coaches for everyone. There are only a few of them. Shooting ranges need to be built. Both open and closed. And there should be not 2-3 of them, but dozens per region. Everything is against us.....
    33. +3
      11 October 2023 22: 40
      Where are Chemezov’s children and grandchildren? Already in the Northern Military District?.. Damn, I'm worried. so that the Russian men cover their skins with theirs.
      Those born in the USSR usually don’t need to learn this, you bastards, they helped, they will learn in local conflicts when the USSR collapsed.
    34. 0
      11 October 2023 23: 04
      And again, people rushed to link shooting training with the availability of weapons.
      Moreover, some write that since you can’t buy a machine gun, there’s nothing to learn, while others are afraid that if you train someone, then his machine gun will immediately start up, and he’ll go and chop up his neighbors...
    35. +3
      12 October 2023 00: 08
      They themselves (I’m talking about the “elite”, to which Chemezov belongs) destroyed all the shooting ranges across the country, made access to weapons as difficult as possible, and removed NVP lessons! What, did it smell fried for the stolen goods? And with your wife and your crazy salary, restore shooting ranges around the country, and then sing songs, otherwise the hoarse voice of an old rooster will not motivate you! Where to steal so much - does he want to take it with him?
    36. +4
      12 October 2023 00: 40
      so that, if necessary, protect yourself, your home, your land

      Yeah, how... you will protect yourself or your home here with the help of weapons... And you will sit down to ten right away.
      Mr. Chemezov would better recommend up there, at the top, to tighten up the legislation so that it makes sense to actually learn how to handle weapons
      1. 0
        12 October 2023 07: 29
        The point is that by going through the military training camp every few years, you were able to go straight to the front in case of mobilization and not go to training for several months
    37. +3
      12 October 2023 07: 46
      The state is so diligent in protecting the people from weapons that such statements only cause bitter smiles. Clowns... Hoplophobia is blooming in full bloom in the State Duma!
    38. 0
      12 October 2023 09: 31
      I haven’t picked up a golf club for six months. I tried again and nothing worked - I kept slashing to the right. It takes about 3000 hits to learn how to roll a ball with a putter from 3-5 m, but it’s worth giving up training and suffering again because... I don't get it right the first time. Shooting from a pneumatic TT requires expenses because... the price of a gas can has jumped to 80 rubles. I made a two-point target from a water pipe and 2 plastic water bottles at head and chest level to suit my height.
    39. +3
      12 October 2023 11: 01
      It sounded pitiful. As they say: “Go down to the subway”.... If he is not completely stupid, then the problem is much broader. In order to attract young people (up to 40), you need to have an ideology. Any, but with a national-patriotic accent, and to educate young people. The root of the problem is that in the USSR ANY educational institution, in addition to educational ones, also had educational functions (ideological, if you like). And now no one is raising young people, only the Internet, social networks where the ideal is a consumer. And all attempts to reach out to young people are in vain. It’s not just that we are losing the information war “for minds” - we are not really waging it, since the top has nothing to do with it. And now they remembered about the Motherland, but the locomotive has long been by and by. And such attempts to encircle oneself look either pitiful (like here), or forced (like Peskov), or simply funny (like Volodin). So - deaf, no chance.
      1. 0
        12 October 2023 14: 39
        Five points. Well said.
    40. 0
      12 October 2023 17: 01
      We are already shooting and learning. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    41. +1
      13 October 2023 07: 34
      That's right. Which of the guys or boys were of conscious age in the USSR, know and love pneumatics, AKs, small bullet shooting, weapons. City shooting ranges, competitions between schools. Scattering and assembling a machine gun on a NVP is happiness. My disassembly record is 6 s). I don't remember the assembly. The AKs were broken and easily scattered. Shot well. I thought that I would definitely have a blast in the army. Fuck there. They were allowed to issue 50-60 cartridges for service. Artillery. They burned up shooting training like cartridges were diamonds. I never took aim at my AKS-74.
    42. 0
      13 October 2023 11: 25
      - If only they would sponsor this topic! Matbase is not cheap these days...

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