The Pentagon sends a second carrier group to the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Israel

The United States will send a second aircraft carrier to help Israel, the Wall Street Journal writes about this, citing statements by Pentagon representatives.

According to the publication, the US Navy command is considering the possibility of deploying a second aircraft carrier off the coast of Israel, which will arrive a few days after the first carrier group. Now the first AUG, led by the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69), is moving towards Israel; its arrival is expected in two weeks.

Following the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) is the second AUG, led by the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78). It is currently unknown whether the second carrier group will replace the first, or whether they will remain in the Mediterranean together. So far the Pentagon has not made a decision.

In response to the Hamas attack on Israel, and after detailed discussions with President Biden, I have directed several steps to strengthen the Department of Defense's position in the region to strengthen regional deterrence efforts. I have ordered the transfer of the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean

- said the head of the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, the day before.

Meanwhile, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that sending a second US Navy aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean could lead to an escalation of the conflict. According to him, the behavior of the Americans does not correspond to partnership relations; the US military recently shot down a Turkish drone over Syria.

The US is sending its aircraft carrier to Israel. What are they doing here? What are they going to do? They will take a step towards serious massacre by striking Gaza with an incoming aircraft carrier

- said Erdogan.

Comments

[antiaircrafter]

The Pentagon sends a second carrier group to the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Israel

They are the ones who are going to drive ships of guys in slippers through the desert.
Meanwhile, a second Ukrainian mine floated into the Mediterranean Sea.

[Orange Bigg]

Was the X-32 or Dagger accidentally dropped into the sea? Maybe one of them could also float up by accident. Otherwise, I’m afraid that there won’t be enough mines here.

[vadson]

Could it be easier to do? Declaring the area near Gaza a zone of military exercises and putting a couple of ships there, the Yankees will start shooting towards our fleet, but why the hell do we need it?

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Immediately send two aircraft carrier strike groups to the Gaza Strip??? Why so much excess force??? No, they are planning something against Russia!!!

[Warrior with machine gun]

Or maybe Iran? Options however....

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

But why does Iran need this and why now?

[alystan]

Forwarded from Maghreb and Mashreq

There is growing speculation in the Arab media that Israel may be using the Hamas-led Operation Al-Aqsa Flood as a pretext to renew attempts to resettle Palestinians in the Sinai.

The plan first emerged more than 60 years ago and has come up repeatedly in negotiations between Israel and Egypt. Deposed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, shortly before his death, recalled that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “does not want to create two states, he wants to separate the Gaza Strip from the West Bank,” and back in 2010 he proposed a plan for the resettlement of Palestinians from Gaza to “territory in the form of strip located along the border with Egypt on the Sinai Peninsula." Mubarak then categorically rejected this proposal.

In 2019, Palestinian Information Minister Nabil Abu Rudeina also reported that ousted President Muhammad Morsi intended to settle Palestinians in the Sinai, and he "clearly and frankly stated this to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas." The German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung reported earlier that Morsi's interest in the development of northern Sinai, for which the West promised to allocate colossal funds, was one of the reasons for the coup against him.

According to many Arab and Western analysts, the creation of a Palestinian state in Sinai to replace the West Bank and Gaza Strip (as well as the displacement of Palestinians from east Jerusalem to Al-Arish) represents the basis of the "deal of the century" reached between the United States and Israel during the Donald Trump. According to the “deal of the century”, which never gained real force after Trump’s defeat in the 2020 elections, Egypt was supposed to receive $9,167 billion for the development of Sinai, including half a billion dollars to support tourism projects in South Sinai on the Red Sea coast. and $1,5 billion to support joint efforts between Egypt and Israel to create a major regional natural gas hub.

The current bombing of the Gaza Strip by Israel in response to Hamas attacks can very likely be used by Tel Aviv to actually displace the Palestinian population into Egyptian territory, especially since the Israeli Armed Forces today clearly called on the Palestinians to flee to the Sinai.

The statements of both the acting Prime Minister of Israel and his individual ministers are quite consistent with this.

[Myths]

Don’t be naive, they came there to help with the bombing and destruction of the sector’s population. However, gas is very necessary even without the natives. Nothing changes. But homemade sea drones could appear.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

The Gaza Strip has nothing to do with gas production - the name of the sector comes from the name of the city of Gaza, which is part of the Palestinian Authority.

[Revolver]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

The Gaza Strip has nothing to do with gas production - the name of the sector comes from the name of the city of Gaza, which is part of the Palestinian Authority.

It seems like they either expect to find gas on the shelf there, or even explored it. But with the so-called Palestinian government, which formally has something like a reduced sovereignty in Gaza, but in fact does not control anyone or anything there at all, none of the serious oil and gas companies will do business even for the sake of gas in Gaza.

[Incvizitor]

It’s better to give Syria onyxes with the Lisitsins and drag them in from there.

[Romario_Argo]

An unknown number of Ukrainian mines are drifting in the Mediterranean
(you can always refer to Ukraine - convenient)
so this is the main threat to the 2nd AUG of the US Navy

[tkoh]

Quote: vadson

Could it be easier to do? Declaring the area near Gaza a zone of military exercises and putting a couple of ships there, the Yankees will start shooting towards our fleet, but why the hell do we need it?

Perhaps they will do so immediately after the capture of Avdeevka

[El Chuvachino]

Poseidon would test the very thing

[Mikhail Ivanov]

I also thought that there was an option in which the mattresses would be drowned in a nuclear trough, Iran has missiles and drones capable of doing this! But the main point is that you are really afraid!
Yes, and if several more Iranian groups join in, the bayonet count will become conditionally equal. Considering that Hamas will sit in bunkers and blow up Jews, and Hezbollah will open a second front, Israel may not survive...

[svp67]

Quote: antiaircrafter

They are the ones who are going to drive ships of guys in slippers through the desert.

Actually, it was a statement from the Pentagon about the Americans’ readiness to FORCE free the Americans captured and held in Gaza... So, the presence of a second aircraft carrier is already becoming clear...

[Adrey]

Quote: svp67

Actually, it was a statement from the Pentagon about the Americans’ readiness to FORCE free the Americans captured and held in Gaza... So, the presence of a second aircraft carrier is already becoming clear...

Then the UDC as part of the AUG would be more understandable

[Yura]

Quote: Adrey

Then the UDC as part of the AUG would be more understandable

Likewise, on a US aircraft carrier there can be from 4 to 5 thousand. crew members along with the Marine Corps.

[Adrey]

Quote: Jura

Likewise, on a US aircraft carrier there can be from 4 to 5 thousand. crew members along with the Marine Corps.

Well, at the expense of 4-5 thousand. Of course, you went overboard. It's not a cruise ship after all. .
They can. Probably company size. No heavy weapons. But the functionality of the ship is still not the same at all.

[A2AD]

But the functionality of the ship is still not the same at all.

Everyone even that one. It’s just that the Americans will liberate, together with the Palestinians, straight to the next world. The scheme had already been worked out on September 11th.

[Revolver]

Quote: Adrey

Then the UDC as part of the AUG would be more understandable

It’s not evening yet, we’ll have to catch up.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Adrey

Then the UDC as part of the AUG would be more understandable

So it is necessary to land on the ground. And there are bearded men in flip-flops... the valiant American Marines do not fight when there is at least some resistance. Therefore, it’s just an aircraft carrier, without UDC.
Because an air wing located on an aircraft carrier could very well turn the entire Gaza Strip into a smoking desert... and no one needs to land anywhere. If so, then let the Jews die.
These are the basic principles of American warfare, this is their usual doctrine.

[opuonmed]

Well, yes, the United States says and does, and they will help Israel demolish the city!

[Arzoo]

Well, yes, the United States says and does, and they will help Israel demolish the city!

And they took 155-caliber artillery depots from Israel and gave them to the Urinaites There is nothing to fight with, Karl! If the IDF goes there without a barrage of fire, Holocaust 2.0 will begin. Now they will use aviation to compensate for the artillery caliber. I imagine how the Jews cover the Pentagon in private conversations Where can you get so many aircraft? So they bent over the Americans. And two AUGs will compensate for everything that the Urinopithecus was given.
A big hello to their aviation resource. May they end up there and drown!

[opuonmed]

Quote: Arzoo

And they took the 155-caliber artillery depots out of Israel and gave them to the Urinaians. There’s nothing with which to fight, Karl!

Why then are they waging war and shooting and shooting? Have you read their news again that again something is missing??????

[orionvitt]

Quote: svp67

there was a Pentagon statement about the Americans’ readiness to release by FORCE the Americans captured and held in Gaza.

In that case, I guess there will be a Black Hawk Down 2.0.

[Adrey]

Quote: orionvitt

In that case, I guess there will be a Black Hawk Down 2.0.

Yes, something like that.

[Simple]

Quote: svp67

So, the presence of a second aircraft carrier is already becoming clear...

The second aircraft carrier carries replacement governments.

In general, the cleansing of Gaza is a gradual cutting off of Iran’s zones of influence.
They might stir up something in Syria too.

[Arzoo]

. Actually, it was a statement from the Pentagon about the Americans’ readiness to release by FORCE the Americans captured and held in Gaza... So, the presence of a second aircraft carrier is already becoming clear...

Absolutely. There is no point in the second AUG other than its combat use.

[Evil543]

Israel was fired upon from Syrian territory. Maybe according to their souls?

[poquello]

Quote: Evil543

Israel was fired upon from Syrian territory. Maybe according to their souls?

for the Americans this could end very sadly, the attacks are not coming from Syria, but the Jews were shooting in Syria before this crisis

[spectr]

Rather, they want to cut off the Gaza Strip from the sea to make it easier for Israel to crush the Palestinians.

[swnvaleria]

But it’s still interesting, the weapons that the West supplied to Square were discovered by Hamas, but by chance they couldn’t have sold them sea kamikaze drones that they tried to use against us?

[Last centurion]

In general, no matter what the child amuses himself with, as long as it burns diesel fuel :) what’s up with Greenpeace? Is this different?

[VLAD-96]

Drowning them with a swarm of Shahids (or Geraniums), operators, is very difficult to figure out where they were controlled from..

[Orange Bigg]

Shahid will not take such a colossus. But you can try to hit the Asef missile launcher from an Iranian Su-24M.

[ilya63]

at least 3 pieces on board to the water line and hello to the colossus.

[Alexey Viktorov]

It’s easy to hit with a rocket, but how can you deal with the consequences later?

[Orange Bigg]

The consequences will then have to be taken out quite concretely if you don’t strike now and stop the lawlessness. Because next time the Gaza Strip may be followed by a rash decision to bomb Iran on the wave of victory and permissiveness, and so the Americans will see what the consequences can be and retreat. In the end, now everything can be blamed on Hamas and Hezbollah. This means that the situation can be resolved, but if Iran strikes directly, and not through a proxy, then it will no longer be resolved. A terrorist attack is one thing, an open war of state against state is another thing. The Americans will populate somewhere and say We supposedly defeated all the terrorists, took revenge, but next time, when they get hit in the face, they won’t bother. At least they’ll think about it 100 times.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Alexey Viktorov

It’s easy to hit with a rocket, but how can you deal with the consequences later?

The destruction of the cruiser "Moscow" and the Americans pushed it to Ukraine. So now, everything can be blamed on Hamas. It is clear that all the talk about the hypothetical destruction of American aircraft carriers is all idle speculation, but still.

[BMP-2]

I wonder how then the United States will defend itself if, as a result of the consequences, it loses two AUGs? The sellers of striped democracy do not think about themselves at all.

[A17ttt]

BMP-2 (Vladimir V.)

I wonder what the US will defend itself with then?

this will be the smallest loss compared to the opening of a second front (line) along the borders with the Russian Federation.

this short own The loss of image is easier for the US to swallow.

[Huarabey]

Then a torpedo from an Iranian submarine, which can be pulled closer to Israel in advance))

[Revolver]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Shahid will not take such a colossus. But you can try to hit the Asef missile launcher from an Iranian Su-24M.

Do you want to see Iran glassed over? An aircraft carrier is not a couple of hundred ravers at a festival, and with all due respect to the Israeli strategic forces, you might not even notice them next to the American ones.

[Vadim S]

Something more is clearly brewing than a blockade of a small piece of land, it’s just brewing here, everything is one to one.

[sadam2]

J Ford - 80 aircraft. cruiser Normandy - 90 tomahawks - enough to erase a country the size of Lebanon.
Why is the 2nd AUG being adjusted? is it that bad? Iran?
tomorrow they will enter Gaza and the meat grinder will gain momentum

[Orange Bigg]

They protect Israel so that Muslim countries don’t tear it to pieces for carpet bombing cities with civilians. As sometimes happens in the yard. And I have an older brother, if he hits you with something. So it is here.

[Yura]

Quote from Sadam2

Why is the 2nd AUG being adjusted? is it that bad? Iran?

I think that’s not all, they can also send an aircraft carrier with escort ships to the Persian Gulf..

[orionvitt]

Quote: Jura

Another aircraft carrier may be sent to the Persian Gulf

Firstly, the US does not have many aircraft carriers on the move. And secondly, the Persian Gulf is one big trap, the entry and exit of which is controlled by Iran.

[Yura]

Quote: orionvitt

And secondly, the Persian Gulf is one big trap,

The width of the Strait of Oman is 56 km. block from the outside and for Iran it will become a big headache.

[Adrey]

Quote from Sadam2

Why is the 2nd AUG being adjusted? is everything so bad?

Alternatively, they don’t quite trust Ford. It’s still damp, not all childhood illnesses have been cured. Therefore, the second one is for backup, just in case.

[sadam2]

the scenario with Gaza is more or less clear.
with hezbola the mess will be tens of times more bloody.
two weeks to go to Eisenhower ..

[A17ttt]

who will apologize when a plane and a boat launch several missiles further than the Gaza Strip or Israel and Palestine?
There are nearby: Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, including Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the mix of territories’ composition turns out to be 30/70

[alystan]

How could the adversaries not quietly direct one or both of their troughs towards the Black Sea?

[al3x]

Quote: alystan

trough towards the Black Sea

The Americans know down to the last cent how much these “troughs” cost. So, they won’t send it. And who will let them in? Will they be able to crawl through the straits in terms of tonnage/dimensions purely theoretically?

[forty-eighth]

Quote: al3x

Quote: alystan

trough towards the Black Sea

The Americans know down to the last cent how much these “troughs” cost. So, they won’t send it. And who will let them in? Will they be able to crawl through the straits in terms of tonnage/dimensions purely theoretically?

If Istanbul bridges are dismantled, they will squeeze through. But in general, aircraft carriers are prohibited from sailing through the straits

[Revolver]

Quote: forty-eighth

If Istanbul bridges are dismantled, they will squeeze through. But in general, aircraft carriers are prohibited from sailing through the straits

EMNIP, this was the main reason for the presence of a full set of missile weapons on Soviet aircraft-carrying ships. A cruiser means you can travel through the straits.

[Adrey]

Quote: alystan

How could the adversaries not quietly direct one or both of their troughs towards the Black Sea?

What for?

[Andrey77]

In the Black Sea they will be in the crosshairs of coastal complexes. Both ours and Turkish. And why is an aircraft carrier in a puddle?

[Huarabey]

Perhaps they just want to be closer to the Black Sea. Just in case.

[Revolver]

Quote: Warabey

Just in case.

Rzhevsky (r): “Hey, orderly! Dress uniform and condoms! I’m going to the Assembly of the Nobility.”
Orderly (d): "Your brother, why condoms?"
r: “Just in case. Yes, another jar of Vaseline!”
d: “Vashbrod, why is this?”
r: "There are all sorts of cases..."

[Adrey]

Eternal wanderers . It seemed like they announced that Ford was leaving? Eisenhower is apparently next.

will the second carrier group replace the first, or will they remain in the Mediterranean together.

So the first one hasn’t arrived yet and should I change it already?
Soon this area of ​​the sea will become crowded...

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Adrey

Soon this area of ​​the sea will become crowded...

Again, all the fish will be scared away.

[Adrey]

Quote: antiaircrafter

Again, all the fish will be scared away.

By the way, it’s interesting about fish . How many submarines do we have there in Tartus? Three? This teaching can be stirred up! As close as possible to combat. When and where else can you gain such experience?

[Andrey77]

Record propeller noises? Why not?

[Aag]

Quote: Adrey

Eternal wanderers . It seemed like they announced that Ford was leaving? Eisenhower is apparently next.

will the second carrier group replace the first, or will they remain in the Mediterranean together.

So the first one hasn’t arrived yet and should I change it already?
Soon this area of ​​the sea will become crowded...

A colleague, ever since he kept political information on the internal network, realized for himself that “... The East is a dark matter...” Everything there is very not simple....
Regarding your remark, I also noticed this (Ford, or Esenhower?), I cannot comment adequately. Negligence of the editors of "VO", uncertainty in the circles of the US leadership, or something else... Let local experts, please, give an assessment - as I understand it - even the presence (absence) of individual proper names in the order, AUG, for experts can mean a lot...
... To be honest, yesterday I was “knocked down” by the explosions of some “analysts” from “our” media (in particular, “Vesti-FM”, ) Kulikov: “... how can an aircraft carrier help in the desert?...” . I will refrain from commenting on this opus. ...Only... “It’s a shame for the State...” (C).

[Lt. Air Force stock]

I wonder if 200 unmanned drone boats head towards the AUG, will they be able to fight back or not?

[Orange Bigg]

Why copy the clown ataman Zelensky? Iran needs to transfer a couple of ballistic anti-ship missiles to Hezbollah (killing range 700 km). He has them. Yes, Hezbollah and Lebanon may suffer, but if even one aircraft carrier sinks, it will be a colossal shock for the United States, their faith will be undermined and perhaps they will stop committing lawlessness, this is better than waiting for them to deal with the Gaza Strip, Western bank of the Jordan River and will go on to organize a big war with Iran, feeling their impunity. Then things can take such a turn that I don’t know how all this can end. This all needs to be stopped at an early stage, it will just be much worse if they now you can get away with it.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Iran needs to transfer a couple of ballistic anti-ship missiles to Hezbollah (killing range 700 km). He has them. Yes, Hezbollah and Lebanon may suffer, but if at least one aircraft carrier sinks

From laughter, or what?

[Orange Bigg]

Of course, from laughter. With a successful hit, such an anti-ship missile will explode the ammunition for several dozen fighters and a storage facility with aviation kerosene. This kind of laughter will be seen from space.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote from Orange Bigg

With a successful hit, such an anti-ship missile will explode the ammunition for several dozen fighters and a storage facility with aviation kerosene.

Yeah, and at the same time the US strategic nuclear arsenal and Yellowstone to the heap. Honestly, I can’t talk seriously to you comedians anymore.
In the USSR, they were seriously engaged in countering AUG/AUS, and it was assumed that guaranteed incapacitation (possibly destruction, but perhaps not) was ensured upon impact by no less than 60 X-22 anti-ship missiles. From different sides. Which, taking into account the losses before reaching the attack line, required two regiments of supersonic missile carriers. But, disgustingly, even so everything turned out very pitchfork in the water (even the Tu-22M3 is difficult to launch into an attack), so before the missile strike it was planned to strike at the enemy’s maneuvering area with 8 X-22s with special warheads, which would have to suppress the air defense with EMP and PRO AUG/AUS.
And here you are telling tales about how Hamas (all of them are born rocket scientists) will blow up an aircraft carrier with one or two (!) ballistic (that is, with a predictable trajectory) missiles with only optics (!!!) as a seeker...

[sadam2]

from the list Iran Qatar Lebanon - who do you consider adequate? they are all martyrs and will die without a second thought. The Turks of the Russian Federation also made a choice... there is a not unreasonable option that we have been living for the last week. matches and kerosene were brought there
Tomorrow Gaza will be leveled. the day after tomorrow Hezbollah will start from the north... and away we go

[Orange Bigg]

An adequate solution is to transfer serious anti-ship missiles to proxies and sink aircraft carriers with them. Without exposing any of the states. To say either Ze sold the anti-ship missiles or created them themselves.

[A2AD]

To say either Ze sold the anti-ship missiles or created them themselves

Why invent something? The Anglo-Saxons have already thought of everything. We handed them over and now they are not ours, we don’t know anything. Ask Hezbollah.

[Adrey]

Quote from Sadam2

there is a not unreasonable possibility that we have been living for the last week

In my opinion, you are still exaggerating

[Aag]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Why copy the clown ataman Zelensky? Iran needs to transfer a couple of ballistic anti-ship missiles to Hezbollah (killing range 700 km). He has them. Yes, Hezbollah and Lebanon may suffer, but if even one aircraft carrier sinks, it will be a colossal shock for the United States, their faith will be undermined and perhaps they will stop committing lawlessness, this is better than waiting for them to deal with the Gaza Strip, Western bank of the Jordan River and will go on to organize a big war with Iran, feeling their impunity. Then things can take such a turn that I don’t know how all this can end. This all needs to be stopped at an early stage, it will just be much worse if they now you can get away with it.

Are you really counting: 1-2 anti-ship missiles - minus one aircraft carrier?!
Honestly speaking, if we judge more globally - and not at the level of primary instincts (Oh! What a shame! The West has no time for us now!) - then the picture is drawn to be very complex.
Iraq may become “not up to us”... This time.
And, “... The East is a delicate matter...” (C). I won’t undertake to judge how everything will turn out!
And in the underbelly of the Russian Federation... there is a lot of stuff moving around... Without getting too far, there are Azerbaijan and Turkey. Kazakhstan, and - oh, how unexpectedly - Chechnya!
And I think we shouldn’t forget about the rest of the “offended” (for example, the Armenians).

[Andrey77]

A couple of missiles are shot down by the easy air defense of the escort destroyer.

[A2AD]

A couple of missiles are shot down by the easy air defense of the escort destroyer.

Yes Yes. And the Mossad, the Tsakhal and the Iron Dome were all so great and invincible. And as it turned out, they threw slippers at them like bald cats.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote from A2AD

the iron dome, they all looked so great and invincible.

The Iron Dome was designed to withstand dozens of missiles. And it showed quite good efficiency. To overload it, Hamas used, according to them, 5000, and according to Israeli - more than 2000 rockets. Are you seriously planning to overload the air defense of five escort ships with one or two anti-ship missiles?

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

I wonder if 200 unmanned drone boats head towards the AUG, will they be able to fight back or not?

They can, there are also a huge number of planes, helicopters and escort ships. And Israel will help as best it can, its planes are flying continuously there now

[Andrey77]

They can. Half of the escort cruisers will be destroyed. Stupidly on the way.

[Leshak]

They are in a hurry to arrive so that Israel does not have time to cope on its own without the United States. Before the elections we need at least some kind of victory with the participation of the Americans.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Leshak

They are in a hurry to arrive so that Israel does not have time to cope on its own without the United States. Before the elections we need at least some kind of victory with the participation of the Americans.

Then they have nowhere to rush. The war in Gaza will take at least half a year.

[Msi]

The war in Gaza will take at least half a year.

With each new day you predict the future of Israel becomes darker and darker...

[sadam2]

Kadyrov's tiktokers are also eager to fight. unless they get stuck in another traffic jam

[Victor Leningradets]

Then they have nowhere to rush. The war in Gaza will take at least half a year.

With all due respect, Aron!
Well, enough of these “naive Russians” to mislead. Even if Gaza is a super-fortress (in fact, just a ghetto), then without water, medicine and reinforcements they will not last even two weeks!
And with a competent assault and the use of both modern means and primitive injection of carbon monoxide into the tunnels, focal resistance will be finished off in three to four days.
“Don’t be afraid of shame, there will be no condemnation. There are boundaries beyond which condemnation does not cross: I can offer you such enormous content that the most evil critics of other people’s morality will have to shut up and open their mouths in surprise... For me, the impossible is not enough.”
This quote fully explains the relationship between Israel and the United States.

[Aag]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Leshak

They are in a hurry to arrive so that Israel does not have time to cope on its own without the United States. Before the elections we need at least some kind of victory with the participation of the Americans.

Then they have nowhere to rush. The war in Gaza will take at least half a year.

I, of course, bow to Israel in terms of, say, agriculture
in particular (according to your link, by the way). But! Agree, what is planned and what is real are somewhat different things!
I am well aware that one must “reason” in this way against the backdrop of the death of children, women, and old people (excuse me for the “pathos”...)
Let's just say - for me - the "cut-off", "watershed", happened in Odessa, in the 14th...
Yes, yes, yes - even if “the propaganda lies” - I have a number of testimonies from specific people, acquaintances, who have seen enough in impotent anger at... I don’t even know what to call it - in front of the child’s parents they impaled a stake, - they abused the distraught mother in a perverted form, - the husband, - they simply shot him...
And here’s the most mysterious thing - the people who told me all this (with tears in their eyes) - went to live in Ukraine! Yes Yes! One is in the rank of sub-cabinet of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (in/ builder), the second is a communications operator of the US (communications center of the RD RD Strategic Missile Forces / missile division /...)...
Actually, after Chubais there is nothing to be surprised at...

[Non-fighter]

And how many free aircraft carriers do the Amers have left? Maybe China will stir up something next to Taiwan?

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Not the fighter

And how many free aircraft carriers do the Amers have left? Maybe China will stir up something next to Taiwan?

8 more

[Andrey77]

And for them there is an escort, fuel, armored vehicles and a crew? For all eight? Is the air wing really ready?

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Andrey77

And for them there is an escort, fuel, armored vehicles and a crew? For all eight? Is the air wing really ready?

Yes, everything is there, a complete set.

[al3x]

Operation American Unstoppable has begun...

[Orange Bigg]

Biden himself started it personally, before reaching the toilet?

[al3x]

Together with Lloyd Austin, it seems they supported each other on this issue. Or from each other... No details are given.

[Boniface]

The Yankees are living a “past life” - the golden 60s! when the natives were afraid of aircraft carriers and ran away with their pants full into the desert in horror!
Times are different!

[digger]

Wow! Two fat targets are so tasty...together, like in a shooting gallery...now I would like to test both Daggers and X-32 on them....but in general, to take an aircraft carrier out of battle, you just need to touch its take-off deck and that’s it.. .this unit is immediately reset to zero and becomes useless. There it is enough to throw one fa-250 there or any one missile into the deck from above and that’s it.

[Orange Bigg]

No. The main thing is to break through the deck and for the warhead to detonate underneath it. There are huge volumes of aviation kerosene, the ammunition is not weak for dozens of fighters, it’s the same as getting into a ground arsenal with ammunition, air bombs. It will explode so much that it won’t seem like much, but the main thing is to set it all on fire Remember how McCain, in his youth, carelessly burned the deck, but he was lucky that the damage was relatively minimal, since it all happened on the deck, and not inside the aircraft carrier.

[Old Horseradish]

It's time for Muslims in America to support the Palestinians. Or it’s time for our dark-skinned friends to restore order in America and deal with the descendants of the colonialists. Well, attract the Indians. Enough for them to sit on reservations.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: Old Fuck

It's time for Muslims in America to support the Palestinians.

Yeah. So they refused benefits and other goodies.

[Fangaro]

Lloyd Austin.
And I remember Lloyd from Stephen King's The Stand.

[opuonmed]

I wonder who has the courage ?????? (to drown, etc., etc., or openly hold Palestine with weapons), but the USA will not boob

[Bear]

It would be necessary to send the third and fourth aircraft carrier group to the by no means small Mediterranean Sea. Well, further: kill everyone in one fell swoop. And there is no aircraft carrier fleet. And how to implement this, now unknown drones, both sea and flying, are a dime a dozen. Lapota.

[Dirty Liar]

Is the second one a backup if the first one drowns?

[Ivan_7]

Uncle Sam is coming to give someone a tasty, fat kick

[Tim666]

Quote: antiaircrafter

The Pentagon sends a second carrier group to the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Israel

They are the ones who are going to drive ships of guys in slippers through the desert.
Meanwhile, a second Ukrainian mine floated into the Mediterranean Sea.

Meanwhile, the son of Israeli Prime Minister Avner Netanyahu has mobilized and will soon go to the front.

[antiaircrafter]

Quote from Tim666

Meanwhile, the son of Israeli Prime Minister Avner Netanyahu has mobilized and will soon go to the front.

He's a great guy, of course. Good luck to him in the military!

[Huarabey]

A worthy action. At least a lifetime scholarship.

[m4rtin.frost]

The mattress makers began to panic once they sent a couple more ships there!

[Ripap]

What if you create an underwater (diving) drone armed with two Shkval torpedoes. It approaches in the surface position at 20-30 km, then dives and launches torpedoes from 9 km. Does this make sense?

[Kerensky]

Estimate the displacement, get seaworthiness. A scow full of feces...

[incognoto]

As for me, this is an attempt to block the sea, since there is a very high probability that Turkey may try to provide assistance to Palestine, the States, realizing this, are immediately trying to show that it will not work.

[dementor873]

Quote from Sadam2

J Ford - 80 aircraft. cruiser Normandy - 90 tomahawks - enough to erase a country the size of Lebanon.
Why is the 2nd AUG being adjusted? is it that bad? Iran?
tomorrow they will enter Gaza and the meat grinder will gain momentum

Iran is not at all the same, they only have several types of cruise missiles from 700 to 1650 km, not to mention suicide bombers. The air defense of ships of such an attack will not be able to take out. Hamas has overloaded the Iron Dome, and they don't have as many forces as Iran.

[matsur]

Quote: dementor873

Quote from Sadam2

J Ford - 80 aircraft. cruiser Normandy - 90 tomahawks - enough to erase a country the size of Lebanon.
Why is the 2nd AUG being adjusted? is it that bad? Iran?
tomorrow they will enter Gaza and the meat grinder will gain momentum

Iran is not at all the same, they only have several types of cruise missiles from 700 to 1650 km, not to mention suicide bombers. The air defense of ships of such an attack will not be able to take out. Hamas has overloaded the Iron Dome, and they don't have as many forces as Iran.

Who will have time to cover whom? Overwhelm Iran's airfields and factories together with Israel and there is no longer a clear advantage. If the Arabs do not unite, they will be killed one by one. Will Russia be able to stand alongside? Or will he lose another ally? So soon we will be alone and left in the club of outcasts.

[Persia]

Iranian are Persian and a great culture and civilization, they do not practice barbarism like suicide bombing or terrorism. in history never a Persian terrorist or group existed so maybe you should research before lump Iranian and Arab together .
not only Persian do not do that, Persian influence is on Shia Islam resulted in the fact that 100% of suicide bombers are Sunni and most of them Wahabi Sunni from Saudi.
another Persian impacts on Shia Muslim can be seen in the fact that only shia counties have sizeable Christmas and Jewish population (Iran Iraq Syria Lebanon)
in fact persian are who defeated the people who participated in terrorism(ISIS al-Qaida Alnosra) in alliance with Russia
even US noticed that despite the fact they sided with sunnies

[Evgeny_Sviridenko]

Interestingly, Iran has already created nuclear warheads? Or does it just run centrifuges? As they stated for everything, they only need 12 days for everything. But even without a nuclear weapon, Iran is not Iraq. It won't be easy with him. And the Arab world is not limited to Iran alone. We should also expect a wave of terrorist attacks around the world. And driving the few groups of Hamas and other Islamic militants, even without armored vehicles, through the deserts and mountains with aircraft carrier groups is not a good idea. Moreover, they are clearly not fools, and will fragment their group even more (tactics as I call mercury). It seems that things did not work out for the amers and their allies with Ukraine, they were counting on something else, so they decided to light a new “fire”.

[forty-eighth]

And the Arab world is not limited to Iran alone

You will not believe...

[Revolver]

Quote: Evgeny_Sviridenko

Iran is not Iraq.

I remember they butted heads for 10 years and ended up in a draw.

[Carlos Hall]

It is possible that they are preparing to attack Iran together with Israel, taking advantage of the situation.

[zoland]

Quote: vadson

Could it be easier to do? Declaring the area near Gaza a zone of military exercises and putting a couple of ships there, the Yankees will start shooting towards our fleet, but why the hell do we need it?

Let your fleet leave the Black Sea first

[Knell wardenheart]

The guys are very brave in sailing boats, taking into account the experience of the Northern Military District and what% of missiles passed through the “Jelly Dome”. Not everyone has apparently realized that modern air defense-missile defense is far from being as perfect as they used to think..

[Adrey]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

The guys are very brave in sailing boats, taking into account the experience of the Northern Military District and what% of missiles passed through the “Jelly Dome”. Not everyone has apparently realized that modern air defense-missile defense is far from being as perfect as they used to think..

They quite reasonably think so. The supposed opponents in this theater do not have sane long-range anti-ship missiles and their carriers, just as there is no possibility for reconnaissance and target designation.
AUGs will not maneuver in the direct line of sight of Gaza or Beirut. They will cruise between Crete and Cyprus. From there they can reach wherever they want

[Knell wardenheart]

So it is so, but the events of the last year and a half show that very... a high-quality line was taken for improvisation of all types. Including in matters of pointing something at something. And in matters of defeat too... I’m just pointing out that the crown has grown too much on the head of the United States, they still consider (like the Israelis, and like us until recently) their opponents to be some kind of technological imbeciles, and the restraining force of its power and authority by a certain absolute. Now events clearly show that more and more often there are Davids who manage to be extremely unpleasant to the Goliaths, who are just so careless, accustomed to relying on “this cannot be, because this can never happen.”
Perhaps yes, this will not happen NOW, perhaps, as you indicated, they will float and everything will settle down.
Or perhaps the gentlemen from the IRGC will want to test some kind of stray “for such an occasion,” suitably disguised as a craft made from shit and sticks, like those that fly through the “Iron Dome” or make their way through our air defense. So to speak, by the hands of some regional guys who have been beaten to death, desiring glory in the rays of 50 virgins. There are a lot of them...
I don’t doubt for a minute that they are developing variants against the Augs at home, it can’t be otherwise - and these would be variants in their spirit, missile-UAV themes, maybe some variations of floating-flying bearded men with a bunch of C4 pockets.
Maybe a drone raid with FPV, maybe something else. Here you don’t even have to drown the “whale”, it’s enough to let it bleed and get a delicious picture with a smoking deck and burning airplanes.
Can they do this in principle? They can, why not?
Do they need it? Also, why not, at some point in time Iran may be tempted to show its fangs and capabilities in the region - and this moment is not particularly worse given the international situation.
Actually, the USA, in the rhetoric of the ayatollahs, is a little less of a devil than Israel (or even a greater one) - and therefore they will not miss the opportunity to depict him “on the sly.” For all the good that happened in not so long ago history.
As for reconnaissance, underestimating the stars and stripes of their opponents in the region can work here. There are often times when the enemy delivers very successful blows precisely where they overly rely on ceremonial power and, in connection with this, lose caution and unpredictability.

However, we'll wait and see. The trends were not very good for classical air defense-missile defense, until these trends were learned to be effectively stopped.

[vadim_ivanov]

How awkward it will be to fight on such 2 ships and lose to people in the slates

[Oleg Apushkin]

Oh, this act will set the region on fire even more. From the other side it will be visible; who is who.

[TermNachTer]

The fairy tale will tell soon, but it won’t be done soon))) The Eisenhower is undergoing scheduled repairs, so it’s a fairy tale that it will be completed in two weeks, the ship will be equipped with everything necessary and driven all the way to the eastern part of the Mediterranean. It's good if in a month. Again, unfulfilled repairs and shifting repair schedules for other aircraft carriers. Life is becoming more and more fun for mattress makers)))

[matsur]

One Aug can go to the Persian Gulf closer to Iran. Although I don’t know if it’s profitable

[TermNachTer]

Theoretically possible. The Reagan, which left Yokosuka, will be redirected to the Gulf. The problem is that it goes to Bremerton for repairs. And it’s simply dangerous to push back the repair deadlines for him. He left Yokosuka six times over 11 days, but could not leave. Apparently the ship is already in ruins. A shift in the repair schedule for the Reagan will entail a shift in the repair schedule for other aircraft carriers, and they have already been postponed who knows how many times))) so, let’s stock up on Pepsi-Cola and popcorn)))

[uralex]

The Nordic streams were blown up by some “unknown” people, it would also be nice to send two aircraft carriers to the bottom in revenge for the “unknown” ones...

[Two]

The Israeli Air Force grouping is being expanded, air superiority will be used with all its might, perhaps the Gaza Strip will be wiped off the face of the earth, at one time there is already an example of Dresden. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is a politician, remember the recent conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Israel helped Azerbaijan and Turkey, so that all this about the Muslim brotherhood, these are just words for ordinary people, he will do what is beneficial to him and from which Turkey will receive the greatest profit. It’s just time to redraw the Middle Eastern map.

[matsur]

Quote: Evgeny_Sviridenko

Interestingly, Iran has already created nuclear warheads? Or does it just run centrifuges? As they stated for everything, they only need 12 days for everything. But even without a nuclear weapon, Iran is not Iraq. It won't be easy with him. And the Arab world is not limited to Iran alone. We should also expect a wave of terrorist attacks around the world. And driving the few groups of Hamas and other Islamic militants, even without armored vehicles, through the deserts and mountains with aircraft carrier groups is not a good idea. Moreover, they are clearly not fools, and will fragment their group even more (tactics as I call mercury). It seems that things did not work out for the amers and their allies with Ukraine, they were counting on something else, so they decided to light a new “fire”.

Israel already has it. Probably tactical nuclear weapons. And somehow it seems to me that their hand will not tremble.

[Tim666]

Quote: Two

The Israeli Air Force grouping is being expanded, air superiority will be used with all its might, perhaps the Gaza Strip will be wiped off the face of the earth, at one time there is already an example of Dresden. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is a politician, remember the recent conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Israel helped Azerbaijan and Turkey, so that all this about the Muslim brotherhood, these are just words for ordinary people, he will do what is beneficial to him and from which Turkey will receive the greatest profit. It’s just time to redraw the Middle Eastern map.

That's right, for Turkey there are only Turkish interests, and words are just words.

[faterdom]

Two aircraft carriers are not enough. They sent three people to scare Won Kim!
And then - I wasn’t afraid!
And here is Hamas!

[dump22]

And Egypt closed the checkpoint on the border with Gaza and announced that it would not allow Palestinians to enter under any conditions. All Arab countries neighboring Israel know very well what Hamas is. Jordan somehow let them into its territory, then they had to shoot them.
And Egypt previously shot Hamas fighters who broke through with heavy machine guns.

https://iz.ru/1587112/2023-10-10/egipet-zakryl-kpp-rafakh-na-granitce-s-sektorom-gaza

Egypt has closed the Rafah checkpoint on the border with the Gaza Strip.

Earlier, on October 10, The Times of Israel reported that the Israeli military advised the Palestinians to leave the Gaza Strip and flee to Egypt. They pointed to the Rafah checkpoint on the Gaza-Egypt border.

[dementor873]

Quote: Adrey

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

The guys are very brave in sailing boats, taking into account the experience of the Northern Military District and what% of missiles passed through the “Jelly Dome”. Not everyone has apparently realized that modern air defense-missile defense is far from being as perfect as they used to think..

They quite reasonably think so. The supposed opponents in this theater do not have sane long-range anti-ship missiles and their carriers, just as there is no possibility for reconnaissance and target designation.
AUGs will not maneuver in the direct line of sight of Gaza or Beirut. They will cruise between Crete and Cyprus. From there they can reach wherever they want

As the crow flies, it is 900 km to Iran. They now have the Paveh cruise missile with a range of 1650 km, plus they developed Asef on the Su-24 based on the X-55, and who will allow the Americans to fly to Iran? Assad, Erdogan or the SA, with whom they are in conflict. Plus Tartus is nearby, I think ours will also warn the Amers to moderate their ardor. Or they will tell our people, we are now going to launch tomahawks over Syria, let them pass like brothers.

[zontov79]

Putin needs to transfer the anti-ship missile system to the region, let them make fun of the American cameras.

[Casey_Ryback]

It would be nice to place a couple of cruisers and a couple of submarines off the coast of Gaza as a counterbalance to the United States, but, unfortunately, no one will dare to do this yet, even if there are possibilities.

[Alexander Ra]

Someday the time of zeroing will end and someone will find the courage to pay bills to the United States for the Constitution of losses, “Kursk”, “Moscow”, joint venture, now for half a million dead in Ukraine.

[amorphous]

And that’s what hypersonic weapons were created for. It’s difficult to track, and even more so to shoot down. And the hole in the aircraft carrier will not be small

[agel26r]

To some extent I agree

[SlavaS]

The time has come for China to annex Taiwan.

[Lord of the Sheep]

We need to send all the AUGs to the Mediterranean Sea to the coast of Israel - there will be a wonderful party of unscrupulous people!

[Boniface]

Following the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) is the second AUG, led by the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78). It is currently unknown whether the second carrier group will replace the first, or whether they will remain in the Mediterranean together. So far the Pentagon has not made a decision.

Or Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) is already off the coast of the Gaza Strip, and today there were the first flights of carrier-based aircraft!

Planned to approach USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69)

[agel26r]

A good opportunity is looming to avenge Kursk and Moscow, a couple of zircons wouldn’t hurt

[LeutnantTom]

Just let the Americans do it. Russia should look from afar, remain neutral and offer negotiations from time to time. Russia must concentrate on itself.
The aircraft carrier has an aircraft in its belly, also an F16. Europe is not such a long distance for the F16. Americans can be smart sometimes too, Killed two birds with one stone.