In the US, looking for a way out after the adoption in Russia of "the law of Dima Yakovlev"

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The unanimous democratic indignation was met by the American legislators “curtsy” of the Russian lawmakers, who decided to respond to the sensational “Magnitsky act” with the no less sensational “Dima Yakovlev law”. In a rare unanimous rush, congressmen representing the two opposing parties voted "FOR" support condemning the decision of the Russian authorities to prohibit American citizens of the initiative of Senators Mary Landrieu (State of Louisiana) and Roy Blunt (Missouri) from adopting American children to the adoption of Russian citizens. Landrieu and Blunt in the Senate have announced that they know about 740 thousands of Russian children who are deprived of parental care. Such data were received by US senators from a special UN unit called the Children's Fund. At the same time, according to the Russian social protection services, in the orphanages of the Russian Federation there are no more than 110 thousands of children. Such a numerical dissonance made US senators to be deep in their senses and adopt a kind of resolution condemning the Russian ban on US adoption. They say that now Russia will do without American adoptive parents. At the same time, the senators themselves indicate that in just 2011 a year, about 3,4 thousands of Russian orphans were adopted by foreign citizens (in the aggregate).

In the US, looking for a way out after the adoption in Russia of "the law of Dima Yakovlev"


The US parliamentarians also became indignant on the grounds that they had received information from Russia that Moscow was going to suspend American adoption even for those orphans who were to be taken to America in the near future. According to the updated data presented by Pavel Astakhov, such children are in Russia today 52. In the United States, information was spread that the highest authorities of Russia almost under fear of dismissal obliged the local authorities to urgently resettle the children who were going to be adopted by the Americans, by family in those regions in which these children were in orphanages. Such information has not yet been confirmed, but it has already made a lot of noise both in Russia and in the United States.

After the adoption of the condemning resolution, Senator Blunt and another 15 of his colleagues, concerned about the state of social protection in the Russian Federation, decided to send a letter to Vladimir Putin. In a letter to Blunt, associates express the hope that Putin will not sign a law banning American adoption of Russian children, and also describe the "positive" situation with the adoption of children from the Russian Federation by American citizens. But Putin, as you know, signed the law, and Mr Blunt's letter, apparently, printed out and hung it in his office frame, as a reminder of the burning desire of American lawmakers to decide the fate of Russian children.

The “positive” situation with adoptions of Russian orphans again manifested itself “in all its glory” in the United States just a few days ago. 7 January 2013 in Prince William County, Virginia, is undergoing a lawsuit against Matt and Amy Sweeney, who are accused of mistreatment of Russian adopted child Daniel Alexander, born Daniel Kruchin. The boy, under cover of night, escaped from Sweeney's house and ran to his neighbors for help. Neighbors saw grazes on the face of a child, and on the limbs of an eight-year-old Daniel - numerous bruises. Subsequently, it turned out that the boy was subjected to systematic beatings in the Sweeney family, which belongs to one of the local religious movements. It is reported that Sweeney’s spouses, through beatings and torture, could force a child to discipline using dubious methods, which are becoming common in the United States with regard to so-called “difficult” children.

The first court hearing is unlikely to decide the fate of sadistic spouses, but the fact that the local judge released them from the arrest for hardly an impressive by US standards bail in 40 thousand dollars suggests that, most likely, these Sweeney get off with the usual fine instead of actual imprisonment ...

Daniel Kruchin was taken for adoption by an American couple with many children back in 2006 in Tula. Today, the boy is under the care of Virginia’s social services.

While the senators condemned, in unison, the “Dima Yakovlev law” adopted in Russia, one of the American legislators had already matured an alternative idea about what families in the United States, who by all means want to adopt a foreign child, do. There is information about the adoption of the bill, which allows Americans to adopt children from North Korea. But if today “the law of Dima Yakovlev” is spoken of as a very ambiguous manifestation of legislative activity, then what can we say about the new American initiative ... It turns out that the US Senate assumes so much that it can or will not allow the adoption of its citizens from other states. What's this? - a new unique manifestation of politicized ethics or a banal desire to show oneself the real arbiters of human destinies? .. After all, it turns out that before the beginning of 2013 of the year and before the appearance of the Russian “Dima Yakovlev law”, parliamentarians in the United States forbade their fellow countrymen to thus violating the right to freedom of choice ... Not only did they first prohibit, and then suddenly decided to allow, when the roasted rooster pecked at the soft spot, so also the North Koreans themselves, apparently asking one of Washington's "partners" are not going to. And why? .. Suppose, they say, this will be our great democratic gift for Pyongyang, and Kim Jong-un bows to his feet for being able in the United States to grant a landmark permission to adopt North Korean children. And neither the fact of how many orphans in the DPRK, nor of whether they need external adoption, nor how the official authorities are looking at this, Washington obviously does not have ...

It is such a global democracy in the face of the most important democratic state in the world ... The senators themselves declare that Russia politicizes the problem of motherhood and childhood, and then they themselves pass a law that steps over every conceivable moral framework, making it clear to everyone that only solutions are stars The striped parliament in this world are the only correct and indisputable, even if they ignore the position of individuals, communities, and even entire states.

In this regard, it should be noted that, with all the external politicization of the “Dima Yakovlev law”, for Russian children deprived of parental care, he can play a positive role. At least, I want to hope so. Obviously, it is stupid to talk about the development of the state as long as we ourselves, instead of creating the necessary conditions for the development of children left without parental care, send these children "out of harm's way" - abroad, thus trying to solve the problem . However, this problem is so large-scale that it is absolutely thoughtless to solve it using the “no person - no problem” method.

Of course, you can create ideal conditions in orphanages and rehabilitation centers, you can develop a social security base for Russian orphans, you can invest in the development of guardianship agencies, but this is not the final way out. The main thing is for Russian families to create conditions under which they would annually take care of not 7,5 thousand orphans, but much more. At the same time, it is also necessary to create conditions under which the interests of the Russian family in the adoption of a baby were not infringed upon by the officials responsible for the “fullness” and “effectiveness” of orphanages. But we have a lot of people who want to go up for adoption, except that there are fewer officials who are ready to hand over a child to the adoptive parents among the leaders of the same orphanages, and not to “sell” the baby at favorable rates, not like less ... And that Russians “do not want to take children for adoption” are often, to put it mildly, far from reality.
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  1. +65
    8 January 2013 10: 51
    quote-The first court session is unlikely to decide the fate of the sadistic spouses, but the fact that the local judge released them from custody for a bail of hardly 40 thousand dollars by American standards suggests that these Sweeney are likely to get off ordinary fine instead of real imprisonment ...

    and here these ur-dy look at their faces, these are not people but 2 creatures am
    1. YARY
      +49
      8 January 2013 11: 02
      I don’t understand why it was even possible to give Syphys A to sell orphans to this cesspool?
      Most likely it is a slave trade. And which country has declared itself to be the beacon of democracy created by the labor of slaves?
      SyShyA simply can’t live without it, it is desirable for them that everyone around would be their slaves, or, in extreme cases, servants. And this is not hiding.
      I think that in general it is necessary to abandon any adoption by any foreigners!
      1. +24
        8 January 2013 11: 11
        Quote: Ardent
        I don’t understand why it was even possible to give Syphys A to sell orphans to this cesspool?

        In fact, this is a business, many earned millions on children, and their fate is not of interest to traders.
        1. +20
          8 January 2013 11: 35
          Purchase and sale presupposes not only the presence of a buyer but also of a seller. This means that we need to deal with them in general, "we need planting", but first of all it is necessary to create conditions for adoption within the country. Children of Russia should live and grow up in Russia !!!!
          1. Mikhalych1
            +3
            8 January 2013 16: 56
            "but first of all it is necessary to create conditions for adoption within the country."
            Or maybe in the first place it is necessary to create conditions to reduce the number of children which need to be adopted. What are the reasons for becoming orphans ....? I think one of the most widespread deprivation of parental rights.
            Born, 300 000 thousand rubles. received, but you can not educate. But with the deprivation of parental rights to take these 300 and even with interest.
          2. Quiet
            0
            9 January 2013 18: 20
            Children are given through intermediaries (resellers), and then at least repurchase for organ transplantation ...
          3. Raven
            0
            9 January 2013 22: 54
            need not to plant, need to shoot!
        2. +14
          8 January 2013 12: 04
          The motives that encourage Americans to adopt children from Russia are also not clear (this is suggested after reading the article). What is it? Proprietary advertising campaign to save innocent children from a country of continuous drug addiction and prostitution? Or maybe this is a kind of racism? What white couple in the USA needs a Chinese, a Korean, or worse is a mulatto or a black man? And why do not they adopt their children? Don't they have orphans? Judging by the number of convicts per 100 thousand people must be! Or are there big tax incentives for an adopted foreigner? Then this is a business. And if the adoption of patients is only a cover for buying up donors for organ selection? What if attempts to clone human organs failed? Have you noticed that there has been no interest from the wide media about the success of cloning? And this interest disappeared after the adoption by a number of states of a pact banning human cloning. And the United States, by the way, did not sign such a pact. And probably they didn’t succeed with cloning. And those who want to extend their existence more and more!
          1. +4
            8 January 2013 12: 58
            Quote: mark2
            Or maybe this is a kind of racism? What white couple in the USA needs a Chinese, a Korean, or worse is a mulatto or a black man? And why do not they adopt their children? Don't they have orphans?

            Whites, soon in America will become a national minority, the importation of children from Europe, they are trying to some extent, if not fix it, then at least postpone it.
            And, unfortunately, they have enough orphans of their own, over 200 thousand. Only now, adopting them is not as easy as it was with us, before the adoption of the "Law of Dima Yakovlev".
            1. +9
              8 January 2013 12: 59
              Quote: Bulls.
              Whites will soon become a national minority in America,

              Most will be blue wassat
              1. +1
                8 January 2013 13: 11
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Most will be blue

                Sasha Greetings !!! But aren't they blue? did not think did not suit .... hi
          2. +2
            8 January 2013 13: 42
            Quote: mark2
            The motives that encourage Americans to adopt children from Russia are also not clear (this is suggested after reading the article). What is it?

            All your questions, these are my questions, too, and of many and many other people, the answer to which we would hardly receive, therefore, in order that there is no ground for their appearance, "Dima Yakovlev's Law" is the right decision !!
          3. +1
            8 January 2013 14: 01
            There was information that the "white" population of the states was rapidly declining and by 2030 would become a national minority (the black president is an indirect confirmation of this). That's why all the fuss around children of the European type.
          4. +5
            8 January 2013 14: 04
            Quote: mark2
            Proprietary advertising campaign to save innocent children from a country of continuous drug addiction and prostitution? Or maybe this is a kind of racism? What white couple in the USA needs a Chinese, a Korean, or worse is a mulatto or a black man?

            Well, whoever ever had to deal with foreign citizens visiting Russia for the first time will be able to answer.
            The bottom line is that they are almost all victims of newspaper information and all as one they are waiting for bears on the streets of cities and shootings on the streets as during the Second World War. They are very strange about our food and are very surprised that we do not eat bark from trees and our food is very tasty.
            Despite the fact that they often dress themselves, behave like pigs. I just do not have a photo right now, where a fairly wealthy person is standing in a torn coat and I had to explain to the police several times that this is a foreigner !!!
            1. mamba
              +5
              8 January 2013 20: 21
              Quote: APASUS
              all as one they are waiting for bears on the streets of cities and skirmishes on the streets as during the Second World War.

              The fact that their bears roam the streets is considered a unity with nature, excellent ecology. laughing
              Quote: APASUS
              They are very strange about our food and are very surprised that we do not eat bark from trees and our food is very tasty. Despite the fact that they often dress themselves, they act like pigs.

              The Germans launched their equipment at our enterprise. I had to communicate with them in English, which they knew without exception, because their brigades also included Dutch, French, British, Italians. Once I brought them great large tomatoes from my summer cottage as a gift. They refused with horror, referring to the fact that "you have this after Chernobyl ..." I had to explain to them that Saratov belongs to the zone most favorable for growing large-fruited tomatoes. After I told them French varieties, they calmed down and accepted the gift. wassat
              Well, and they got drunk like a pig, more than once. In this form, they were robbed, stole documents and money, delivered to a sober. laughing
              It is reported that the Sweeney couple, using beatings and torture, could force the child to discipline using dubious methods that are gaining ground in the United States against so-called “difficult” children.
              In one of the films on this topic, there was a moment when American parents brought the Russian adopted child to hysteria and continue to sadistically press on. It was called something like "knocking out a wedge by a wedge", but in my opinion it is a breaking of the personality. This is how true Americans are created! fool
            2. aviator46
              0
              8 January 2013 23: 44
              Probably dealing with homeless foreigners.
          5. aviator46
            -11
            8 January 2013 23: 42
            I would have looked into the Internet before writing crap.
            Americans adopt from different countries.
            There are orphans and dysfunctional families - there are no children ...
          6. nickel
            0
            11 January 2013 12: 17
            Indeed, it is not clear why the Americans were so offended. Just do not tolerate the restrictions that apply to themselves? But they think that the most correct and good ... Or something else? I think some adoption statistics may bring some clarity. How many, say, they adopted from Eastern Europe? Is this infa publicly available?
            1. nickel
              0
              11 January 2013 12: 51
              It seems, in general terms, understandable. Here is an article on this topic: www.pravda.ru/society/family/pbringing/12-03-2012/1110961-donor-0
        3. +4
          8 January 2013 13: 03
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In fact, this is a business, many earned millions on children, and their fate is not of interest to traders.


          And these same businessmen also prevented the adoption of these same children by Russian citizens and even relatives.
        4. AndreyAB
          +1
          8 January 2013 13: 33
          So, in principle, the question can be resolved if the president wishes, to investigate these merchants and work for the good of Russia for 15-20 years, so you will see and it won’t be.
        5. nickname 1 and 2
          +2
          8 January 2013 18: 15
          Alexander Romanov, - quarter the traders!

          In this case, to hell with all humanity.
        6. andrklimanov
          +1
          9 January 2013 00: 35
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In fact, this is a business, many earned millions on children, and their fate is not of interest to traders.

          then you need to be punished as a child slave trade!
      2. Atlon
        +8
        8 January 2013 11: 21
        In fact, adoption of a child in the USA means all sorts of "goodies". That's just bad luck, it is almost impossible to adopt an American child. Too tight control. Children from other countries, as it were, are of the second grade, and Russian and third ... Hence the desire. In addition (to be honest), Russia has established such a healthy child trafficking. And everyone, having paid the N-th amount, can afford to get a new "toy".
        1. +8
          8 January 2013 12: 30
          Quote: Atlon
          In fact, adoption of a child in the USA means all sorts of "goodies". That's just bad luck, it is almost impossible to adopt an American child. Too tight control. Children from other countries, as it were, are of the second grade, and Russian and third ... Hence the desire. In addition (to be honest), Russia has established such a healthy child trafficking. And everyone, having paid the N-th amount, can afford to get a new "toy".

          - they say, the Germans and Kaspars were chopped off on such things for good, on mediation and legal support of the whole action. That's why they howled more - they chopped off another financial reward for them. Yes, this is not a toy, but real tax breaks. Therefore, this is a business when a pleasant addition in the form of a child is attached to pleasant tax benefits. Hence these faces.
          In addition, children are raised by Amer’s families, then after all, some part will return to Russia, infected with swamp ideas and super loyal to the Amer’s way of thinking. The same goal applies to children from the DPRK. Then, after all, there is a chance to undermine the DPRK from the inside, without any military influence - and you will not have much impact on the DPRK, a well-equipped army has good morale and the presence of nuclear weapons ... Therefore, the Amer’s AUGs pass by, they only grit their teeth.
          1. +5
            8 January 2013 12: 45
            Another leak of State Department correspondence being discussed in the US is about interpreting the Geneva Convention where buying children for adoption is not a fact of human trafficking!
      3. +4
        8 January 2013 12: 48
        Quote: Ardent

        I don’t understand why it was even possible to give Syphys A to sell orphans to this cesspool?

        Well, if you remember in what years, this whole "business project" with adoption arose, everything immediately becomes clear.
      4. QW4238
        +3
        8 January 2013 15: 04
        I can be mistaken, but in Europe it is forbidden to give children for adoption to foreign citizens. And neither of which does the progressive public groan at every corner.
      5. aviator46
        -9
        8 January 2013 23: 39
        Farewell, unwashed Russia,
        The country of slaves, the land of lords,
        And you, blue uniforms,
        And you, a loyal people to them ...

        It turns out that Russia is in the same row ..)))
      6. andrklimanov
        +2
        9 January 2013 00: 33
        HERE A GOOD THOUGHT
        Quote: Ardent
        I think that in general it is necessary to abandon any adoption by any foreigners!

        And in general, they have there orphans no less than ours that they climb to us?
        their boys into cadets, and girls into the institution of noble maidens. this is our gene pool that shamelessly steal,
        let us grow gentlemen-officers and ladies, an example to follow, than in America Slavs-Slavs
      7. +1
        9 January 2013 21: 53
        YARY,
        I agree with you, but on the other hand, it is necessary to create conditions for adoption within the country, and our officials should not put sticks in the wheels. I grew up without a family I know for myself how shitty it is. And selling abroad is the last thing.
    2. Denzel13
      +8
      8 January 2013 12: 13
      Maybe this is not "pedagogical", but these creatures must be crushed slowly and painfully.
      1. aviator46
        -9
        8 January 2013 23: 50
        If this is a matter of principle, take care of it in Russia - do not hand over pressure to you ... work for years.

        3 million children in Russia do not go to school, 2 million adolescents cannot read, and more than 6 million minors are in socially unfavorable conditions in which they cannot live and develop normally ...
        About 2 million children under the age of 14 are beaten annually in the family. More than 50 thousand of these guys run away from home.
        Two thirds of those beaten are preschoolers.
        10% of children brutally beaten and placed in a hospital die.
        1. +5
          9 January 2013 17: 29
          something you guy scattered millions. prompted you from the State Department? otherwise they don’t know that the population of Russia is 144 million. according to your numbers, they would run along the street in droves. something like that I have not seen. and indeed in America, children are clearly shot (the latest news bulletins) that we have wildness. Do not believe those who pay you in the State Department, or at least remove the Russian flag. you need to get out of here, otherwise the time will come and as an enemy of the people ........ and you are an enemy judging by the comments.
    3. coast
      +3
      8 January 2013 13: 51
      Apollo,
      I’m afraid of these .......... they will be released, get off with fines and even small ones, the court will justify this decision because they have a lot of their children, and at the expense of a small fine there are many more children, they will repent, a deal with the investigation. annoyingly! shame that we give children to other countries !!!
    4. -3
      8 January 2013 14: 08
      Well, there are plenty of such creatures in Russia as in the rest of the world, in principle, there is nothing to be surprised at.
    5. +1
      9 January 2013 16: 33
      Ordinary (standard) sectarians.
    6. Quiet
      +2
      9 January 2013 18: 17
      All the intellect (below the plinth) of this moronic couple is written on the face. This is apparently the FACE of "DEMOCRATIC" AMERICA ???? We have such a place in "Kaschenka" in Russia. And they got off these bastards with just a fine ..... Again double ovsky standards ????
    7. halt
      0
      9 January 2013 20: 27
      but it’s not necessary to search for any exits, all deputies to Magnitsky’s list.
  2. +11
    8 January 2013 10: 54
    That there were no abandoned children for this it is necessary to raise the standard of living. Revive villages, factories, factories.
    1. djon3volta
      0
      8 January 2013 11: 03
      go to the site http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/ and start saying that everything is falling apart.
      1. sergej.salnikov2012
        +1
        8 January 2013 11: 25
        Usually I just read the comments, the link is interesting, I’ve stopped, another site is now in my bookmarks
        1. +1
          8 January 2013 13: 03
          Quote: sergej.salnikov2012
          link interested, went, another site is now in my bookmarks

          Exactly, SUN is a VERY positive site.
          There are a lot of pleasant and useful things there.
          Straight - BALM-- for every patriotic soul.
      2. ksandr45
        0
        9 January 2013 09: 41
        The news about the birth rate was especially pleasing, we would have to push it ourselves.
        1. +2
          9 January 2013 17: 38
          I clicked and now I have three. and it turns out there is enough food and clothing, the apartment is in the property, I’m building a small house in the village. and most importantly, though 43, but I think you can also push the fourth. (this is contrary to the opinion that Russia lives poorly). need to work. and guys, and how are you. while friends went to the states and the apartment was on credit, and life was poor for benefits. our special is not needed there. and here was a respected man.
        2. 0
          10 January 2013 01: 19
          I already What and I wish everyone. One 5 another 1 tongue
    2. Atlon
      +5
      8 January 2013 11: 23
      Quote: Forget
      That there were no abandoned children for this it is necessary to raise the standard of living. Revive villages, factories, factories.


      That there were no abandoned children for this it is necessary to raise the level of self-awareness! Revise priorities in favor of morality, not standard of living. And having a highly moral society, we will have villages, factories, and factories.
      1. +8
        8 January 2013 11: 53
        Quite right. Only by freeing your brains from the slag introduced in the 90s, you can normally build a new house. Not to cry for Stalin, not to be touched by Brezhnev, not to shoot the Tagged One in dreams, all this cannot be returned and not done, but simply start working. What can we do if, through our thoughtlessness, we destroyed what was built by our grandfathers and fathers, in fact, "to the ground"
    3. ksandr45
      +1
      9 January 2013 09: 37
      Well, about the villages you grabbed of course, in my entire conscious life, not in our village, nor in the neighboring ones, have I ever had any memory of children being abandoned. But collective farms have collapsed as early as 10-15 years. Yes, they live in unsuccessful families, but they live, are tempered by spirit and body. Do not complain. Collective farms stood up people spun since 2000, the birth rate jumped several times, every time I am surprised how in our tiny village there are so many preschool children and children from grades 1 to 4. And not Che at -30 with shovels on the hills and snow piles climb, do not complain.
    4. 0
      9 January 2013 16: 48
      And regularly plant the leadership of many orphanages and guardianship councils.
    5. andrklimanov
      0
      10 January 2013 21: 28
      Quote: Forget
      That there were no abandoned children for this it is necessary to raise the standard of living

      I know that for the birth of children, first of all, it is necessary to provide housing for the family, and to feed and dress, you can earn money for this. I work in a forge and earn not a lot of money, it’s enough to feed my family, but I don’t have enough money to buy an apartment. and you won’t give birth without a roof over your head
  3. djon3volta
    +16
    8 January 2013 10: 58
    at least some benefit from the fraudster Magnitsky ..
  4. Petrospek
    +3
    8 January 2013 11: 10
    I would like to read not about how American congressmen cry, but about what is now really being done for Russian orphans in Russia. since the law has already been passed.
    1. +5
      8 January 2013 16: 28
      Petrospek,
      Well, let's say in our small northern city, there is also an orphanage. Children there are mostly who have parents. But practically the parents of these children are either drunks or drug addicts.
      So, there are no more than a dozen children permanently residing in an orphanage. Mostly high school students whose parents were deprived of their parental rights when the children were already 13,14,15 years old.
      The remaining children practically all live in foster care, under the constant monitoring of social services. services. Very young kids social. services arrange a so-called presentation on local television for future potential adoptive parents. And as far as I know from the words of one of the employees of our social services. refusal services more than a month, two of a kind. the house doesn’t linger! Again, no one is given children.
      There is a real competition. There are a lot of people who want it, i.e. K. These children do not remain without the support of public services, both financially for the young orphan himself and his adoptive family! Plus, when the child reaches the age of 18, he will be allocated a one-room apartment. And now adopted by the Duma
      1. Petrospek
        0
        8 January 2013 18: 29
        very times for your orphanage, and which city? if it `s not a secret.
        And the law on the provision of apartments has always been. by the way. since the beginning of the 90s, or from the Soviet era.
        It’s just that, as I understand it, now it is mandatory to give it out, right now in some small towns this business is being put on the brakes, it can be seen that this has been transferred from regional budgets to state ones. budget.
        1. 0
          8 January 2013 20: 43
          Petrospek,
          In general, in all the cities of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and the Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, such a situation. I agree, many will say donor regions! But at least we still have this situation, and that’s good
          1. +2
            9 January 2013 00: 38
            Here is such an orphanage in the city of Langepas. Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug.
            As you can see from the photo, no gratings and barbed wire. winked Although I suspect this situation is far from everywhere in Russia !!!
        2. ksandr45
          0
          9 January 2013 09: 50
          I know for sure in the city of Kurgan they give, that's for sure.
  5. +9
    8 January 2013 11: 14
    read in various sources about the resolution of amers. So, in one write, the amers ask to cancel the anti-magnetic law, in the other, they demand to cancel. I ate a little bit of a fish soup, they were completely stunned, already the internal laws of another country took to edit. Pin-up-owls have no less ardor than psheks. and pshek the most honorable
  6. +8
    8 January 2013 11: 17
    It seems to me that the United States miscalculated, did not foresee the possibility of such a radical counter-strike from the Russian Federation. I think the calculation was that with the act of Magnitsky the Russian Federation will "swallow", send a couple of notes of protest and that's it. But the Duma rebuffed the foe. Now it’s worth waiting for a response from Congress
    1. aviator46
      -11
      9 January 2013 00: 12
      RESPONSE ???
      Ob.shali in full for their assets in the West.
      This, of course, is a difficult clinic. Probably hopeless. They don't care who gets under their feet when they selflessly kick America.
      At the head of this campaign, which has brought and will bring unprecedented damage to the country's prestige, is a man who considers himself the president of Russia.
      1. ksandr45
        +4
        9 January 2013 09: 54
        To spell out the law of Magnetic secretly, here is the damage to the prestige of the country.
      2. +3
        9 January 2013 17: 45
        such as you damage the prestige of the country. this will not do anything for his country. you are a moral freak. the only thing that I saw was the rise of the country, thanks to this man. thanks to him, many people stopped eating potatoes with potato broth on the periphery. and you probably have something that this guy took away from you, since you hate him and Russia. and I don’t understand where does their assets in the west. they brought them to magnetic law a long time ago. they are a big plus that they gave in the face in response (this is prestige !!!). from which the amer- homosexuals are about to be fucked up.
        1. +2
          10 January 2013 09: 41
          Dear Alexandroff. You may be right, but do not be like those with whom you disagree. It is not necessary to go over to the person. I understand that it’s hard to restrain oneself, but otherwise the comments will turn into srach.

          Aviator46 - Your statements are wrong. If the deputies of the Duma "ob. Fought" for their assets in the West, even the idea of ​​Yakovlev's bill would have been crushed and would not have passed 3 readings. Such a rejection of the Magnitsky act showed a willingness to counter the attacks of the Congress. If I'm wrong, justify your point of view
  7. Atlon
    +32
    8 January 2013 11: 17
    Well, I already wrote earlier that Dima Yakovlev's law is, of course, political. The meaning of the law is not to infringe on someone's rights (children or adoptive parents), but to DEMONSTRATIVELY, publicly, to the whole world to give such a savory pendel to our star-striped "partners". In general, an interesting thing is happening ... Depardieu received citizenship ... The shit sphere immediately exploded! But don't feed them with bread, let them leave the poop. However, the move with Depardieu is a smart and cunning move. There already B. Bardo pulled herself up ... What does this mean? This means that unambiguous signals are sent to the world:

    1. America is not our authority! Or in verse:
    I betrayed your rotation,
    And the axis was, my genital organ ...


    2. In Russia there are no drunk bears with balalaikas !!!

    And no matter how much shit, the excrement spit, the world heard these signals, and understood. Hence the fury of Amerov’s politicians, for it’s not pleasant for anyone to lose authority, and even so publicly ...

    Happy Holidays!
    1. Denzel13
      +8
      8 January 2013 12: 17
      Pavel, for the first special point, thank you hi
      1. Atlon
        +1
        8 January 2013 12: 41
        You're welcome! laughing hi
      2. 0
        8 January 2013 17: 16
        Denzel13,
        Join us! drinks
    2. mamba
      +2
      8 January 2013 20: 36
      Quote: Atlon
      Depardieu received citizenship ... Govnosphere immediately exploded! However, the Depardieu move is a smart and tricky move. There already B. Bardo pulled herself up ...

      The French immediately pecked and decided to respond asymmetrically, changing their stars for our marginal sluts from Pussy Riot. In their opinion, this is clever. recourse
      The GDP should immediately shout in response: "I am changing without looking!" and propose a detailed plan for the exchange of our marsh and frostbitten stars for their stars. laughing
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 16: 43
        Dreaming. They have nowhere to put their freaks.
      2. 0
        9 January 2013 17: 57
        damn how they can mix the talents of Depardieu and whores. world turned upside down!
    3. -4
      9 January 2013 14: 17
      Quote: Atlon
      Depardieu received citizenship ...

      With all due respect to Depardieu, as an actor ... more than a strange act of the President, once again showing disregard for the law and the validity of the thesis "the law is what a drawbar ..." No.
      The procedure for acquiring citizenship of the Russian Federation is regulated by the Federal Law "On Citizenship of the Russian Federation" of 31.05.2002/62/13 N 14-FZ - Article 3 "Admission to the citizenship of the Russian Federation in a general manner" and Article 13 "Admission to the citizenship of the Russian Federation in a simplified manner" ... Based on meaning of the articles, it is obvious that paragraph XNUMX of Article XNUMX was applied to Depardieu (as to a person "having special services to the Russian Federation" negative ), otherwise he would have had for at least 1 year constantly live on the territory of the Russian Federation, having only residence...
      On December 20, 2012, during a press conference, the President of Russia stated that “if Gerard really wants to have either a residence permit in Russia or a Russian passport, we will assume that this issue has been resolved and has already been resolved positively.” “This promise was due Depardieu's significant contribution to Russian culture and cinema", Said the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov ... A very vague wording ...
      It is characteristic that for all the "weight of the contribution" the Russian authorities still have not bothered to award Mr. Depardieu any state award specifically "for services to the Russian Federation" (and not to culture and cinema) ... Therefore, the question of what, in fact, are "special merit" Mr. Depardieu before the Russian Federation (in addition to meeting Mr Putin personally) and on what basis the President granted him Russian citizenship, remains largely open ... request
      1. -1
        14 January 2013 05: 28
        and where does Depardieu? Dear, you seem to have made a mistake with the branch. belay
  8. anchonsha
    +13
    8 January 2013 11: 28
    This question has long been raised by the country's public, but not by the "creative" people in the form of Sobchak, Navalny, Ptichkin and other liberal trash who cares not about orphans, but an obsessive desire to fulfill an order at any cost - to remove Putin from power. And only we ourselves can make life normal for our orphans. And instead of children, let's give the Americans all the swamp riffraff who doesn't want to work for nothing.
    1. raf
      +2
      8 January 2013 11: 51
      So you would have given it, but who will take them? They, the Americans, are here to water all the shit!
  9. +1
    8 January 2013 11: 47
    The fact that the American politicians distorted from the "law of Dima Yakovlev" once again confirms that the law has been passed, the right one, maybe not quite timely
    1. Atlon
      +11
      8 January 2013 11: 55
      Quote: rexby63
      the right law is adopted, maybe not quite timely

      No, everything is on time. The Amer decided to slap Russia in the face (everything is public, by the way), and in return such a sickly pendel! (again, in public). What did the onlookers think? ;) Right! The fact that the amers are not so cool, as everyone is told ... Someone, whose coolness they did not doubt before, but over the past decades have been written off how the bae returned from the terrible nightmares of Western countries, and even a pendel, the main to the hegemon ... So it goes, nothing "sacred" will remain! All and sundry will start sending the USA nafig ...
      1. +5
        8 January 2013 12: 11
        During and at the very time in Russian .. just to the organ that makes the children ...
        if you don’t like Russian let them try Korean ... gentlemen gentlemen on a good journey ...
  10. +13
    8 January 2013 11: 59
    We are here somehow on the forum in more than detail discussed this topic namely
    December 25 last year "War of lists: Putin - in the" Magnitsky act "!"
    It is clear that the United States has been preparing for the adoption of this act for a long time. It was known from the press in advance. Surely the law of Dima Yakovlev was also carefully discussed in the committees and subcommittees of the State Duma. The speed of adoption of the law is commendable and now I will return to my previous comment on the same date

    Apollon 25 December 2012 09: 17 | War lists: Putin-in the "Magnitsky act"!
    .................................................. ..............................
    ............................
    My question begs what gentlemen, comrade deputies, prevented you from quickly preparing and taking this set of measures simultaneously with anti-magnetic law.
    The state is now simply obliged to adopt legislative acts as soon as possible
    1. Adopt a law on allocating if you need a large amount of money to orphanages and for children with disabilities
    2. Adopt a separate law on the protection of the interests of orphans and children with disabilities.
    3. Introduce amendments to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation at the legislative level to toughen penalties for sharing money with orphans and children with disabilities.
    4. Conduct reconstruction and overhaul of all homes for orphans and the disabled in need.
    5. Create an all-Russian fund for orphans and disabled children. Under special control of the president or prime minister.

    Today, January 08 of 2013, what measures were taken and what was done. Why the State Duma hastily left for the Christmas holidays, it was necessary to stay and adopt the relevant laws before leaving for the holidays.
    One more thing, on the one hand, we are told about raising the birth rate, about maternal capital in order to stimulate the birth rate. And these children are not children, they are already born, they need care and support, and who knows, the future president and prime minister will be among them in the future.
    1. Denzel13
      +1
      8 January 2013 12: 25
      Apollon, good afternoon. hi
      Unfortunately, much remains to be done in this field.
      This is an example of stimulating fertility:
      at the birth of a second child, the state gives out maternity capital, but not for the third (of course, something has changed, but 3 years ago it was).
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 18: 04
        my third child is three years old and we were immediately given maternity capital. I don’t know where you got the information from.
    2. +4
      8 January 2013 13: 36
      Apollo,
      I support, all with my soul.
      I believe that the State Duma should urgently adopt an amendment to the law "Dima Yakovlev" to all foreigners adoptions of Russian children.
      Those wishing to adopt a Russian child in mandatory have get Russian citizenship and elect permanent residence in Russia, the adoption child’s departure abroad is possible only upon reaching adulthood
    3. Fox
      +3
      8 January 2013 14: 07
      Apollo,
      1. Adopt a law on allocating if you need a large amount of money to orphanages and for children with disabilities


      and I would add CONTROL over these funds, and when I try to steal even a penny-per-count.
      1. +5
        8 January 2013 15: 00
        Denzel13, old rocket launcher, fox,
        Greetings, hi
        I would like to summarize my main idea, the sooner they will understand that national treasure any state including Russia are neither the bowels nor the GDP, namely children! IMHO
    4. +7
      8 January 2013 14: 33
      It jars me when a fundraiser is announced for an operation for a child. Where is the state? Where is the money - the deputies? FC "Zenith" "ate" all the money of the fund of insurance medicine of St. Petersburg for the treatment and operations of "poor" players abroad. Maybe it should be, maybe it's legal, but on CHILDREN for some reason NO of money!
      Most likely there are no generalized lists of such needy children. I think the announcement of data on the number of dead children as a result of inadequate medical care or the absence of it at all will plunge the country into HORROR !. After all, someone cannot get anywhere further than the regional hospital; there are no expensive free medicines somewhere for children. This is a problem that deputies should also deal with first of all.
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 19: 20
        So for free insurance it turns out and free = useless treatment.
        Only we could make insurance free with insurance medicine - in fact, getting sick and being treated with a medical insurance policy is much more comfortable.
        1. 0
          9 January 2013 13: 09
          This is how they inspire us. Ask the deputies at whose expense they go abroad to treat their runny nose?
  11. +7
    8 January 2013 12: 04
    Here, as it’s all strange, especially because of the evasion of responsibility of murderers of children, to whom the legislation sets for life for non-payment of taxes, it is strangely loyal. Apparently, these people participate in the preparation of secret satanic rituals with human sacrifices, and judges and congressmen apparently, as respectable members of the church, starting at Yale University, have the right to free human parts (organs), so they protect their investments. It’s approximately the same as in the Beilis case, when the whole enlightened community rushed to defend a vendor of ritual blood.
  12. +3
    8 January 2013 12: 17
    The country is obliged to bring up its children itself. In the terrible war years they managed, we can handle it now, without Amer’s participation.
  13. 0
    8 January 2013 12: 19
    All the salt of the article in the last two paragraphs. good
    The funny thing is that after reading the news posts on VK on this topic, I saw too many reviews like "cancel Yakovlev's law." It symbolizes.
  14. boris.radevitch
    +2
    8 January 2013 12: 35
    Let the United States search and never find it a fact! Stop crippling Russian
    children. tongue
  15. +1
    8 January 2013 12: 43
    what do families in the United States do, who, by all means, want to adopt a foreign child

    How, what to do?
    To adopt, his, American orphans, whom by the way, in the USA, at the moment are over 200 thousand
  16. Region65
    +3
    8 January 2013 13: 12
    now let the American nits torment, torture, rape and kill their American children, otherwise they have spawned broiler stupid bastards with which to hell little, give them Russian. The bastards. Our parliamentarians did their best, it was high time for us to prohibit the adoption of our children by these subhuman pigs foreign.
    1. Raven
      0
      9 January 2013 23: 08
      Well these are children, do not care that they are from another country.
      All the problems are due to idiots who do not know how to educate. Raised, fed a child with hamburgers. Maybe a normal person would have grown up without obesity. , mental problems, etc. But what about the parents? They stuff with hamburs, chemistry. No control, anyone can go into www and get "somewhere" and then yells:
      HOW SO! FOR EVERYTHING GIVEN IT AND TD. There is no control. Without the Internet and computers they lived and everything was perfect. And now this is another drug.
  17. +1
    8 January 2013 13: 23
    Americans themselves do not trust their children to their own citizens too tight control and adopt a child from another state to foster parents is almost impossible.
  18. +5
    8 January 2013 13: 43
    Quote from the article: “After all, it turns out that before the beginning of 2013 and before the birth of the Russian“ law of Dima Yakovlev ”, parliamentarians in the United States prohibited their compatriots from taking custody of children from the DPRK, thereby violating the right to freedom of choice ... Moreover, that at first they were forbidden, and then they suddenly decided to allow it, when a roasted rooster pecked in a soft place "

    Excuse me, dear, but isn’t it the same with us ??? I do not defend the Americans, but I want to be objective! Four years have passed since the death of Dima Yakovlev! and all this time our legislators have the issue of adoption of Russian children by Americans TOTALLY NOT EXCITED! And why did they wake up through 4 of the year, you ask?
    And from the fact that the United States, having adopted the "Magnitsky list", stepped on the tail of our thieving bureaucracy. And only the risk of losing the coveted accounts in foreign banks, real estate in warm overseas lands and the opportunity to withdraw money there and use it all - this risk and the motivation of our legislators to stir.
    Be sure - do not accept the "Magnitsky list" in the States, our rulers would still not give a damn about the fate of Russian orphans both in the United States and in their country.
    1. makar
      -14
      8 January 2013 14: 16
      Quote: vadimN
      The USA, having accepted the "Magnitsky list", stepped on the tail of our thieving bureaucracy. And only the risk of losing the coveted accounts in foreign banks, real estate in warm overseas lands and the ability to withdraw money there and use it all - this is the risk and encouraged our legislators to move.


      "When you see an Elephant, well rush at him,
      And bark, and scream, and tear,
      Well, and climbs into a fight with him.
      "Neighbor, stop being ashamed, -
      She mongrel says - do you want to mess with Elephant?
      Look, you're wheezing, and he goes to himself.
      Forward
      And I don’t notice your barking at all. "
      "Eh, eh! - Pug answers her, -
      That's what gives me the spirit,
      That I, absolutely without a fight,
      I can get into big bully.
      Let the dogs say:
      "Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
      What barks at the Elephant! "
      this is not a stir, but masturbation! if you would like to give a real answer, then, as in the case of the Baltic states or Georgia, they would call Onishchenko for help and he would quickly figure out where they grow legs Bush's legs!
      This legislative act only humiliates Russia and shows that our level is the Baltic states of Georgia and other tangerine republics!
      1. 11Goor11
        +6
        8 January 2013 15: 16
        makar
        if they wanted to give a real answer, then, as in the case of the Baltic states or Georgia, they would call Onishchenko for help and he would quickly figure out where the legs of the bush’s legs grow!

        In general, Onishchenko was "drafted", even before the "anti-magnetic" law, he banned the import of meat with ractopamine, which caused no less indignation than the law. You only swear because you don't have all the facts. And you brought the verse about the Pug for nothing, only this Pug is very much reminiscent of the white-tape yapping at the Duma. Are you sneering at yourself? It is commendable.
        1. makar
          -3
          8 January 2013 20: 33
          Quote: 11Goor11
          belolentochny
          from orange and hear
    2. 0
      9 January 2013 13: 05
      VadimN, I agree with doubts, tk. There are a lot of lies about raising children in orphanages and their adoption. With both laws - it's rotten. And here and there, instead of really caring for children - politics. We have a lot of officials living on the money allocated for the maintenance of children and they cannot part with such a feeding trough. It would seem: a simple matter - the money allocated for the maintenance of children in orphanages should be given to families where they agreed to take them, because the amount will not change, and the result of upbringing in a family will justify these costs. The percentage of those prepared for real life in Russia will significantly increase, but this percentage (and there are real children behind it!) Does not "bother" anyone and officials do not care about children, so long as they do not lose their salaries! Of course, strict control over the spending of this money and the upbringing of these children is needed, but this is a question that can be solved. And what about those who are beaten and killed and adopted and their children, so it is first necessary to put things in order in Russia. I am convinced that with our savagery, there are many cases of treatment of children that are not inferior in their savagery to American ones, only we do not know about this.
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 18: 07
        with our media would definitely know.
  19. 0
    8 January 2013 13: 45
    It is necessary to refuse adoption by foreigners in general. Moreover, it is necessary to make proposals to all the independence areas such as the Tribaltics or Ukraine (which recently facilitated the adoption procedure) on Russia's adoption of children for adoption.
    1. LAO
      LAO
      +2
      8 January 2013 18: 54
      Personally, will you take up the child's upbringing? Will you be able to dress, shoe, feed and learn him, and also make him a person?
      Trande not tossing bags.
      Take and educate, and the government will help you.
      1. ksandr45
        +2
        9 January 2013 10: 24
        Well, we can be very grateful to switch languages ​​only, but that doesn’t mean that now everyone is like that. Not transferred to Russia People who take and bring up children from children’s houses.
  20. sergskak
    +1
    8 January 2013 13: 59
    It’s nice to watch the American comrades bustle around. It’s nice to hell !!!
    1. LAO
      LAO
      +2
      8 January 2013 18: 56
      You must take zekons, but remember the medical commandment - DO NOT HARM !!!
  21. +1
    8 January 2013 14: 08
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In fact, this is a business, many earned millions on children, and their fate is not of interest to traders.

    The business is unambiguous, the fate of Russian children did not interest them at all, and even more so they did not care what children felt when they were in a strange environment, according to their concepts, children should develop a sense of affection for adoptive parents (like an animal to their master). They were given great mercy, to live in AI, and they were ungrateful dared to still resist.
  22. +1
    8 January 2013 14: 10
    Smart people, and the whole article is about orphans. Specially read to the end, no where about the prohibition of NPOs not a word!
    The law of Dima Yakovlev is simply called that. There is about a ban on adoption, but its salt is that it puts an end to NGOs funded from abroad.
    That’s where there’s so much hysteria from the USA, and they’re orphaned by @ uy.
    And now I want to ask the author, he wrote so many bukaf about the ban on the adoption of orphans, and he read the law? Well, at least from other sources, studied the essence of the law?
    1. +4
      8 January 2013 15: 03
      In the article, if you haven't noticed, the author (as the author) considered one of the parties to the law. Voennoye Obozreniye has already published several articles on limiting the types of activities of non-profit organizations financed from abroad. Do not consider it a work - read them, if you wish.
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 08: 19
        This side of the law on children is discussed by all media 10 times a day on all channels, it is already known to everyone, even orphans, and not just visitors to this site.
        The salt of the law, which is discussed in this article, is not in orphans, it is simply called that. The salt of the law in the prohibition of financing NPOs (it is this law, and not the prohibition of NPOs in general !!!), and you do not say a word about it, in the article which is devoted to this law.
        Download to the top, do you earn cheap popularity on children? Generate content, copy-paste?
        The states are raging because they can no longer finance NGOs! (According to this law!)
        I saw the headline, well, I think we’ll read it now that the enemies are plotting there, and you are smearing the snot (sorry).
        The article is essentially empty, so 3,14 is here for the children. Where is the in-depth analysis of what the enemies can do in response .... Not a word about it, again hackneyed phrases about children ... Are you interested? ... And I was expecting something else from the title of the article ... and was disappointed.
        Comrade Volodin needs to look deeper, and not just the name.
        Correct yourself.
        I look forward to a truly in-depth analysis of this law, and not a repetition of well-known, to holes, erased facts.
  23. 0
    8 January 2013 14: 12
    Not a single Russian child should leave Russia!
    Interestingly, loopholes in the new law will soon be found, or this time our legislators changed their rules and did it normally, and not through w ..., as we have established from time to time ???? smile
    1. -12
      8 January 2013 16: 11
      Let them rot in orphanages, but do not give them back to the Americans?
      1. +4
        8 January 2013 16: 14
        Quote: Andrey77
        Let them rot in orphanages

        I rarely put cons with pleasure, but today is the second time hi
        1. -5
          8 January 2013 16: 24
          Put it again. True eyes prick?
          1. +1
            8 January 2013 16: 28
            Quote: Andrey77

            Bet still

            What for?
            Quote: Andrey77
            True eyes hurts?

            And what is the truth?
  24. +2
    8 January 2013 14: 15
    Damn it all looks like legalized child trafficking what a damn foreign guardians can be
    1. -6
      8 January 2013 16: 13
      Orphanage - colony - freedom - colony .. You can not give.
    2. +1
      8 January 2013 17: 39
      kervin78, you're right - this is one of the options for the slave trade, so Rome began, using the right of the winner
  25. 0
    8 January 2013 14: 24
    I’ve heard that the Americans who adopt our children receive very good money, and supposedly they really need it for this, Zadornov said so on HumorFMwho taste tell? !!
    1. djon3volta
      +10
      8 January 2013 15: 19
      Americans receive an increased subsidy from the state when adopting a child from a foreign country, benefits for medical insurance and low taxes. This was also said on TV. Note that where the adopted child is, they usually have 2-4 children in their family, but they have it’s difficult to feed, train, etc., life in the USA is not sweet as some paint it. firstly there are taxes not 13% as in Russia, prices are higher, etc., one way out, take a child from another country to adjust his budget and breathe a little .a generally read it, for about 20 minutes here, you will understand what America is.
      http://nnm.ru/blogs/cog02/rasskaz_russkogo_emigranta_o_amerike/
      I lived in this America for six months, worked at a construction site, and in the newspaper's editorial office, and in a Chinese laundry, drove trucks from New York to Florida, and even tried to cheat on an American bank (because of hopelessness, there was no money to get home).

      And if you are going to America, I will give you the main advice - I want to go - go. Just in no case do not give up Russian citizenship and do not sell your apartment ... I still had an apartment and a passport, and that's why I was able to return. And to tell something about this America.
      1. -5
        8 January 2013 16: 17
        Have you seen this "emigrant" live? A friend of mine became a manager in a large company. Yes, I had to get out, at first.
        1. +1
          9 January 2013 02: 58
          "You are a middle-level manager, you do not work under, but you work for" (c) Cord
        2. 0
          9 January 2013 18: 14
          did your friend learn to lie for a long time? you go to him and see.
  26. 0
    8 January 2013 16: 09
    And then Magnitsky? In response ... Ugh. We adoptive children do not die, only in America. Aha?
  27. varyg
    0
    8 January 2013 16: 26
    Everyone who is interested in everything here: why does Amer need this and why. There is also a more detailed performance for 2 hours. Http: //poznavatelnoe.tv/fedorov_zakon_dima_yakovlev
    1. ksandr45
      0
      9 January 2013 12: 25
      provide a link to a two-hour explanation.
  28. +1
    8 January 2013 16: 30
    The other day, a movie accidentally hooked, I don’t know how it is called, but it’s old and black, the essence is, the doctor works in the hospital and for all his practice he has four refuseniks (and he’s years old) and he adopted them all, damn it, I sat with my wife such films must be shown then there will be no orphans in the country. yes the USSR is power.
  29. 0
    8 January 2013 16: 41
    The USA is the country with the highest crime in the world. Nearly 50 million poor Americans receive coupons for free food.
    Soon, the United States will need to take the children away, if only to save their lives.
  30. +3
    8 January 2013 17: 39
    However, children are children and to decide their fate with the help of juvenile justice, as our western friends impose on us, no one has the right. Well done Putin, that he signed such a law.
    1. +1
      8 January 2013 18: 16
      Quote: AlexFU
      Well done Putin, that he signed such a law.

      I bet that Putin will sign the law on juvenile justice as soon as the Duma adopts it.
  31. 0
    8 January 2013 17: 50
    What is the conversation about? A kind American is concerned about the fate of unhappy Russian children.
  32. -2
    8 January 2013 18: 34
    USA is a strong state !! IT dictates its rules !!! I need slaves !!! WE SUPPLY
  33. 0
    8 January 2013 18: 40
    That situation in which the States are stalemate. They drove themselves there, this is a maze with many dead ends. And the output is an equation with many unknowns. No FIG was in due time to declare himself a stronghold for all.
  34. LAO
    LAO
    0
    8 January 2013 18: 44
    This article does not see anything bad for the United States. It seems to some that it is possible to raise a child, and even the patch from dysfunctional parents, that the road must be crossed .. In our countries it also happens that children are adopted, and then they mock them, and they also force them to beg ... (I will not list what we sometimes do with foster children). But ceteris paribus, life in the USA is easier.
    And the fact that we have a standard of living, they have a level of death (Zadornov)
    And 70% of children in orphanages replenish the ranks of criminals and dysfunctional families.
    There was an opportunity to help children and relieve their "headache" - now it will not be. Who did it worse? Apparently the author of the article does not have his children and does not bring up strangers, and also has no idea about life in orphanages.
    1. 0
      9 January 2013 18: 23
      note that no developed country gives its children to other countries. and don’t talk about what you don’t know. I have many familiar orphans but are already adults, since they studied at our school after school. they do not look miserable. everyone has houses or apartments. they allocate money regularly for the purchase of housing. they work and work. and stop talking about the orphans and the wretched. without a mother, of course, it’s bad, but amers cannot replace their mother. (especially amers).
  35. bremest
    0
    8 January 2013 19: 07
    You cannot give your orphans to the hands of the enemy. Of our children, our enemies will grow there. We ourselves are capable of educating them. Moreover, remember what great successes orphans have achieved in life. For example, Yu.V. Andropov became the head of the Great USSR
    1. leva. 1948
      -6
      8 January 2013 20: 23
      Who are we and what are you capable of? In the cold weather in Moscow alone, several dozens of dead bodies of children are dug out of snowdrifts. You are capable of much ....... There were successes - but these were the successes of our Soviet Country, and not the current wretched ref, plundered and lowered to the level of African tribes
      1. 0
        9 January 2013 18: 25
        damn it, then I look, everyone jumps from tree to tree, and rush with spears. you probably have a car no less than Toyota and the apartment in the property you are our poor, stolen and omitted. trust the State Department less and open your eyes.
  36. 0
    8 January 2013 19: 13
    I ask myself why this crap happens on the ground where my grandfather died during WWII
    1. leva. 1948
      +2
      8 January 2013 20: 35
      And I ask, why is this happening in the country where my father passed from Stalingrad to Berlin and returned home with VICTORY And to whom we, filthy descendants, gave this victory, won by the blood of our fathers and grandfathers, a victory.?
      1. max-02215
        0
        9 January 2013 19: 24
        so it is clear to the Judo-Masonic brotherhood, even though they say that the protocols of the Zionist sages are fake, but here you go ...
  37. Serge230
    0
    8 January 2013 20: 59
    The main thing is that for children something has changed for the better. And then it turns out: ..a, what, what children? Why the hell with them the main thing is how we smacked the Americans! And everything will be as before, well, they will add money, but they will be immediately halved by the management of orphanages.
  38. merkel1961
    0
    8 January 2013 21: 07
    In the States they always squeal, as if they had stepped on eggs, if they just feel a jabber on the ear. Is the law politicized? Well, it also needs to be economized, and a strict framework should be set for a phased reduction in the share of gold reserves in their toilet paper!
  39. Alek IV
    +1
    8 January 2013 21: 23
    No one took out children from the USSR except Hitler. According to his program, more than 50 thousand children were taken from the occupied territories.
    The United States is doing exactly the same - taking children out of the occupied territory. And according to their program, more than 500 thousand were exported. The term will be exact TRIBUTE children paid by a country that lost the Cold War and recognized surrender. This is a tribute to the winner. ours children, our future. And human rights activists howl that children in the USA and other countries are better, so they are paid for this and a lot. The facts that our children abroad are disassembled into organs or are tested on them with the sea, you just need not to close your eyes to the truth. At least they remembered the case of Shchelgacheva-Frati, a former crane operator from the city of Volzhsky, who, according to fake documents, managed to transport 1993 Russian children under 2000 years old to Italy from 1260 to 3.
    Journalists traveled to Italy with their journalistic investigations, traveled Moscow inspectors, who, in the end, found traces of only five children. Five out of one thousand two hundred and sixty. To which the Italian Minister of Internal Affairs, Roberto Maroni, revealed the bitter truth not in a newspaper interview, but at the annual UNICEF assembly in Rome: “Young immigrants turn out to be a bonanza for traffickers who sell their organs. We have reason to talk about trafficking in children's organs. ”
    Five times since 2002, she heard Signor Frati's acquittal, five times! Finally, in the fall of 2010 justice prevailed: the former crane operator was found guilty. And they gave me four years already. Conditionally.
    And in the end, you ask the normal MOTHER if she wants her CHILD to be taken away and sent to where he would supposedly be well. But RUSSIA is the MOTHER to all of us MOTHER.
  40. 0
    8 January 2013 21: 45
    It would be nice to create Russia an international rating agency to determine the most hypocritical countries in the world
  41. SC_DV
    +1
    8 January 2013 22: 54
    Less blah blah blah. Go and adopt one, or rather several children. If each of us does this charitable deed, the problem will be solved by itself. Yes, it’s complicated, like a bureaucratic procedure. Yes, it must be courageous. BUT, everything is solved and possible.
  42. AlexMH
    +1
    8 January 2013 23: 27
    Somehow, this whole story smells bad .... And everyone doesn’t really care about children - American congressmen and senators of Russian orphans certainly, and our Duma thinkers were somehow not up to the children until they wanted in this form kick the Americans. Only they will rub off, curse us once again with uncivilized barbarians, and the children, as they lived in crumbling orphanages, will remain with even less chance of adoption. They wanted to do disgusting America - well, they would choose some real problem for them, transit to Afghanistan, or send weapons to Syria, or they would have delivered 300 complexes to Iran .... But no, suddenly the Americans are really offended - they were afraid . They came up with a law, they called it by the name of the deceased child .. Why should we use children for our own purposes? We have stupid power and vile, that’s what I’ll say.
  43. +3
    8 January 2013 23: 40
    Just banning adoption in the United States, we have not even begun to solve the problem.
    Agree that the enemy is not so much terrible as the traitor.
    And in the Guardianship Authorities, not even traitors work, but frank Satanists.
    To make of the most precious thing a person has - to make a PRODUCT from a child and go smash families, either for personal gain, or from some ideology - this is a diagnosis for the whole society.
    Dima Yakovlev had the exact same situation as other children, who are made orphans primarily by the Guardianship Authorities, supporters of Juvenile Justice.
    Dima Yakovlev’s grandparents tried to secure custody of the child, but officials did everything to pick up the boy. A rural family from the Russian hinterland lost the battle for a child to a wealthy American.

    According to Dima’s relatives, the adoption case was fabricated in favor of a foreign citizen. The officials threatened one of the boy’s grandmothers to take away the older granddaughter under guardianship, and the second, blind, grandmothers faked a statement about the abandonment of the baby. Here is the whole story: http://www.juvenaljustice.ru/index.php/news/1186-rodnym-dimy-jakovleva-otkazali-

    v-opeke-nad-child

    Whenever a child is left without parents for some reason, there are other relatives who are ready to pick him up. Do not think that we are different here from the Caucasians! And in the Caucasus there are NO orphans! Despite the fact that many children have no parents, especially after the war. It’s just that aunts from Juvenile Justice didn’t tuck into the Caucasus! They are afraid to work there.
  44. 0
    9 January 2013 02: 58
    Oh how stir, foolishness.
  45. +1
    9 January 2013 10: 31
    ... for all the outward politicization of the "Dima Yakovlev law", for Russian children deprived of parental care, he can play a positive role ...

    It is in THIS that the key meaning of "Dima Yakovlev's Law" is. Maybe, at least in this way, our children without parents will be created human conditions of existence. Maybe even now something will change in the mentality of the Europeanized part of the inhabitants of our country. After all, you can treat the same Chechens as you like, but they, in principle, have no orphans, our understanding. The kids are taken away by relatives, he remains in the family. And even kill me, I do not feel a drop of joy from the screeching of TV commentators about the fact that at the next hospital they opened a "baby box".
  46. +2
    9 January 2013 10: 40
    The United States is not happy, So their interests are hurt, and as you know, the only interest the United States has is their green candy wrappers.
  47. Anthrax
    -4
    9 January 2013 10: 53
    The Skaggs family was the first to express a desire to adopt a girl named Paul, who was condemned to a wheelchair from birth. With the entry into force of the "Dima Yakovlev law", the American happy ending for the Russian orphan did not take place.
    The adoptive parents of the five-year-old Polina thought that they would celebrate the New Year together at home, in Arkansas, but now they do not know whether they will give them a girl who can’t walk at all, or she will remain in the disabled’s house.
    ...
    Skaggy - Kendra and Jason - are shocked for three weeks sitting on their suitcases in Russia, not understanding what awaits them.
    Her new name might sound like this - Pauline-Joy Skaggs. "Joy" means In the new house for Polina, the foster parents prepared a crib and a pink armchair in the middle of a bright, cozy children's room with toys. This pink chair, which the Skaggs family called "our princess's throne", has become the emblem of their web project. In the finale, a Russian girl with flaxen hair, whom her mother had never visited in her life, was supposed to be on a Barbie-style chair. And nobody at all.
    ... never one of the potential adoptive parents showed any interest in this pale girl, who is doomed to a wheelchair from birth.
    Who are these Skaggs? Apparently, conservative Americans from the outback. Kendra is a teacher for children with disabilities (that is, with disabilities), her husband Jason is an accountant in the cheapest Walmart retail chain ..
    This family is neither poor nor rich, but it was not easy for them to raise the 45 thousand dollars necessary for the adoption process in Russia. The Skaggs turned to people for help, and those who knew them helped what they could. Even eight dollars transferred by someone in the envelope were accepted with gratitude and noted on the blog ........
    From the world on a string, and thousands of dollars were collected. "Penny for a princess" - called the Skaggs fundraiser. Deeply believing Christians knowingly decided that they would choose a child from among the most disadvantaged, for whom it is most difficult to find a family ................
    Five-year-old Polina loves to look at the family album - her future home, her room, photographs of her brother. Mom and Dad promised to take her to this house on New Year's Eve. But she already knows how ghostly the chances of getting out of an institution called the House of the Invalid are. To do this, you have to be a very, very good girl .......
    She knows that I am her mother. She knows that I love her. But the teachers insist that I will not come for her if she does something wrong. And she believes them. I promised that I would come back and pick her up in exactly one month, but now this may not happen! They will tell her that I didn’t come because she behaved badly, or said bad words, or simply was not the right person, ”the woman wrote after the law was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    Here is the last post of Kendra, a desperate woman whom our politicians explained that Russia no longer needs her and her kind, and because we no longer have orphans, but because Washington has banned dozens of Russian officials from entering the United States. Kendra waits and believes that sooner or later she will meet with Polina-Joy. In the meantime, she prays for Russian boys and girls who are celebrating Christmas holidays in orphanages.

    "Kind Russian people! I pray that you will take these children to your home. I believe that Russian parents are really good for them. I know that you do not have conditions for wheelchair users, like our Polina, and the life of the parents of such children is not easy. But in the "House of the Invalid" there are a lot of wonderful, smart kids who can walk and understand much more than we think. Don't leave them! "- asks the American Kendra.

    Well, all patriots, flayer flies, put cons!
    I want this child to have parents and a future!
    1. +4
      9 January 2013 11: 01
      Quote: ANTHRAX

      Well, all patriots, flayer flies, put cons!
      I want this child to have parents and a future!

      This is a reprint from an American newspaper, which was posted on a mail account. So, minus you deserve it. You can continue to reprint articles from the Washington post and others, there will be many of them now. And by the way you don’t want to adopt or a happy future for you is to send to America ?
      1. Quiet
        +1
        9 January 2013 18: 55
        I join and minus ... I wonder how much he was paid silver coins ???
        1. Raven
          0
          9 January 2013 23: 15
          30 cents, Judah fucking
    2. +3
      9 January 2013 11: 02
      Anthrax,
      If the Juveniles had not made the best human feelings, such as love and mercy, a lucrative, satanic business, then probably all of the abominations that happened in the USA would not have happened.
      We know about a Russian girl with disabilities, who became the champion of the Paralympic Games. But we also know about tortured children. There would be no monetary interest in adoption; children would fall into normal people.
      But this is purely my opinion.
    3. 0
      9 January 2013 18: 31
      why do they take it, you know? in order for them to live, they didn’t give a damn about the girl. because for this they will be paid subsidies. and then perhaps this girl would have been beaten badly because she wanted to eat, but she was not given because she did not deserve it. minus you. for not being a patriot. and you don’t feel sorry for the girl.
    4. 0
      9 January 2013 22: 15
      Anthrax,
      And who does not want - everyone wants. Let the amers flayers give guarantees that they will not scoff at the children, or even worse, disassemble them into organs.
  48. +3
    9 January 2013 11: 31
    Fot I want to bring such a fact (taken from the resource http://antizoomby.livejournal.com/149185.html#cutid1)

    Over 2 years, 205000 parents were deported from the United States.

    Chris Fried Wessler published in the ColorLines a very politically incorrect American statistics, and then thoroughly commented on it. The bottom line is:
    “For the period from July 1, 2010 to September 31, 2012, 23% of all deportations - or rather 204810 deportations - were carried out against parents whose children are US citizens. This is the official data of the US government. "
    Thus, the US government and the ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) - the US immigration and customs police - carry out the craziest and most brutal Nazi policies regarding not only immigrants, but their own children.

    All this, of course - the figures are official, and therefore - not too reliable. But based on them, you can understand something.
    205 thousand is not quite the number of people, this is the number of deportations. Those. repeated expulsions of the same people are possible. “However, according to experts, the total number of deportations is probably greater, since many mothers and fathers are afraid to admit to the authorities that they have children. And besides, this figure does not include parents whose children are not American citizens. ”

    “We are in a crisis situation and we must begin to take action immediately to prevent these senseless and ever-increasing divisions of American children from their relatives,” said Congresswoman Lucille Roybel-Allard, who was involved in the development of laws to protect immigrants. “We need to make sure that all children are protected. We are talking about US citizens whose pleas and calls for help are largely ignored. ”

    These laws, by the way, have not yet been adopted, and are unlikely to be adopted now - after the adoption of the budget cuts program called "financial cliff".
    What happens to American children whose parents are expelled from the country is very poorly known.
    “We don’t know how many children are staying here, but how many are leaving with their parents,” said Louis Zayas, Dean of the University of Texas, who studies the mental health of children whose parents were deported. “We know about the psychological trauma the children received. We are talking about the separation of children from their families ... This threatens the children. "

    In the US, terrible poverty and terrible attitude towards children, but in Mexico is not much better. And remaining in the United States without parents, children are faced with serious problems. A ColorLines study in November 2011 showed that 5100 children who were raised in American families then decided to reunite with their real parents, but the authorities gave them all sorts of bureaucratic obstacles. According to ColorLines forecasts, if such a policy continues - from 2012 to 2014 - already 15000 children will face similar abuse.

    An example of this situation is the story of Felipe Montes (Felipe Montes) and his children. Montes - a Mexican without American documents - was deported in December 2010 from his home in North Carolina, after being detained for traffic violations. His three young children were left in the care of his wife, Marie Montes, since they were all US citizens. But Marie Montes could not earn money, as she was mentally ill, and soon the children were forcibly transferred to a foster family. And only at the end of 2012, after a long trial, Felipe Montes was able to return his children to Mexico.

    The ICE, of course, states that most deportees are malicious criminals. However, according to human rights activists, the bulk of the deportees are guilty only of illegal immigration and minor offenses, such as violations of traffic rules.
    “Any deportation of parents is terrible for the child,” concludes Emily Batera, senior staff member of the Refugee Women's Commission. - "The reason for the deportation, for the child, does not matter."
  49. +1
    9 January 2013 16: 27
    But why do Americans need Russian children? Degenerate as a nation? Why don’t they look towards Africa, Asia, and in China, as I heard, there are a lot of orphans too ... But, in my opinion, only Angelina distinguished themselves from them ....
    1. Quiet
      0
      9 January 2013 18: 58
      The degradation of the nation, requires fresh blood.
  50. Anthrax
    -2
    9 January 2013 19: 26
    The patriots of the flayers made a drawback. They don’t like Russian children, they don’t want the girl Paul well.
    I answer the most shizany questions.
    This subsidy to the adoptive parents in the United States is not paid for by the inventions of the Goebelputian propaganda, and indeed it is a strange business, only the adoption procedure for $ 50000 needs to be spent.
    According to the US State Department, the list of the top five "exporters" of children to the United States was as follows:

    in 2007: China, Guatemala, Russia, Ethiopia, South Korea
    in 2008: Guatemala, China, Russia, Ethiopia, South Korea
    in 2009: China, Ethiopia, Russia, South Korea, Guatemala
    in 2010: China, Ethiopia, Russia, South Korea, Ukraine
    in 2011: China, Ethiopia, Russia, South Korea, Ukraine

    The list is surprisingly stable - and at the same time surprisingly colorful. To further intrigue the reader, I will cite data for 2011 from a list of 10 major countries - partners for adoption:

    1. China 2587
    2. Ethiopia 1732
    3. Russia 962
    4. South Korea 736
    5. Ukraine 640
    6. Vietnam (2009) 481
    7. Philippines 229
    8. India 226
    9. Colombia 216
    10. Taiwan 205

    You can independently study the statistics further on the website of the relevant US government agency and make sure that even in Iran there were adoptions in 2011 (5), despite the complexity of the relationship between Tehran and Washington; the only country that prevents Americans from adopting their children at all is North Korea. Ah, to blame, there are now two such countries: North Korea and Russia.

    http://odp19.blogspot.ru/2012/12/blog-post_22.html
    According to the latest statistics from the US Department of State, most adopted children come from China and Guatemala, followed by Russia and Ethiopia. Many orphans from South Korea, Vietnam, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, India, Liberia, Colombia, the Philippines, Haiti and Taiwan are also adopted.

    http://www.imcl.ru/usa/090313_test.php
  51. 0
    10 January 2013 10: 59
    That our Dumka, that the Amer’s Senate, they are all not adequate.
  52. asf32wesdg
    0
    10 January 2013 18: 40
    It just can't be !!! The FSB has created this http://sho.rtlink.de/FS62Am database about any resident of Russia, Ukraine and other CIS countries. Really was really scared
    there are a lot of interesting things about me (addresses, phone numbers, even my photos of a different nature) - I wonder where they dug up this. In general, there are good sides - this
    Information can be deleted from the site.
    I advise you to hurry, you never know how to fumble there ...
  53. 0
    11 January 2013 18: 00
    Whether the law regarding Dima Yakovlev is good or bad is a separate question.
    The Americans received a slap in the face in response to Magnitsky’s act; for them it was unexpected and insulting, because previously everyone had silently swallowed their rudeness. Seriously, no need to bury yourself! hi
  54. makar
    0
    11 January 2013 20: 07
    look at E. Ryazanov’s reaction to this whole rigmarole:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HP3Iy-R9tQ
  55. SAVA555.IVANOV
    0
    12 January 2013 01: 01
    And who will say “thank you” to the “garbage” for so many orphans, because of their sloppiness a situation has arisen, where are the parents of these children!?? They died from drugs. They drank themselves to death with burnt vodka.
  56. Anthrax
    0
    13 January 2013 00: 10
    The murder of a newborn in the Russian Criminal Code is a crime of medium gravity.
    Like hooliganism
    Article 15. Categories of crimes
    [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 3] [Article 15]

    1. Depending on the nature and degree of public danger, the acts provided for by this Code are divided into crimes of minor gravity, crimes of medium gravity, serious crimes and especially serious crimes...... ....................
    3. Crimes of medium gravity are considered intentional acts, for the commission of which the maximum punishment provided for by this Code is does not exceed five years of imprisonment,

    Article 106. Murder of a newborn child by a mother
    [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 16] [Article 106]

    The murder of a newborn child by a mother during or immediately after childbirth, as well as the murder by a mother of a newborn child in a psychotraumatic situation or in a state of mental disorder that does not exclude sanity, -

    shall be punishable by restriction of freedom for a term of two to four years, or forced labor for a term of up to five years, or imprisonment for the same term.

    http://www.zakonrf.info/uk/106/
    In reality, usually in our country they generally give a suspended sentence for the INTENTIONAL murder of a newborn.
    The murder of a mother by her newborn child in the Tula region, unfortunately, is not uncommon. Over the past five years, dozens of women have been prosecuted under Article 106 of the Criminal Code. And although the law provides for a punishment of up to 5 years in prison for the murder of a mother of a newborn child, in the Tula region those guilty of infanticide were never taken into custody - they were always given a suspended sentence by a court verdict.
    So, in 2004, a 27-year-old resident of Severo-Zadonsk was sentenced to three years probation for a baby drowned in a bucket.
    In 2005, the mother of three children from Efremov escaped with a year of conditional imprisonment for the murder of a newborn son: she left the baby in the winter on the balcony, and he died of hypothermia.
    In 2006, a 19-year-old resident of Zarechye avoided punishment for killing a child: the examination recognized that she was in a state of postpartum shock and did not give an account of the actions taken.

    http://old.mk.tula.ru/4567.html

    But one should not think that only newborn children in our country can be killed with impunity...
    You can dance in the temple and get two years in a colony.
    You can cover the killing of 12 people, including children, and get off with a fine of 150 thousand rubles.
    You can "drop" a four-month-old child from the fifth floor, so that he will fly as much as 9 meters from the house (try, for the sake of experiment, to throw at least a bag of garbage out of the window!) And receive a conditional.

    All this is our court - selectively humane and controllably unpredictable.
    Alexander Spiridonov, arrested on charges of murdering a baby - according to investigators, he threw the child out of the window in a drunken stupor, tired of his crying - achieved a mitigation of his already lenient sentence. In Yakutia, the court gave him a year and a half of imprisonment in a colony settlement. The Supreme Court of Russia reviewed the case and decided that this punishment was excessive and replaced it with conditional.
    Yesterday Alexander Spiridonov was released from custody.

    http://www.vecherniy.com/post=9740
    Type in a search engine - conditional murder of a child.
    We don't see the beam in our own eye
  57. Sleptsoff
    0
    13 January 2013 11: 28
    It seems that Russia is now looking for a way out after the adoption of the “Dima Yakovlev” law, it turns out that it will only take effect in 2014 and it is generally unknown whether it will begin, it resembles another populist law aimed more at domestic consumption - to quench the thirst for revenge on citizens outraged by the “magnetic act”. In short, Putin fucked everyone again.
  58. stroporez
    0
    13 January 2013 14: 33
    There’s one thing I don’t understand - according to official data, the Amers have over 500000 orphans - why don’t they strive to “benefit” their own!!!!!??????????????????? ???
    1. Anthrax
      0
      13 January 2013 19: 42
      Well, why do they adopt?
      More than 100 thousand per year are adopted domestically in the United States per year.
      Apparently for hamburgers and barbecue...
      And they don’t have orphanages. They solved this problem a long time ago.
      They also adopt from abroad.
      The bulk of "domestic" adoptions occur in a small number of countries. Among them, the undisputed leader for many years has been the United States, where in 2001 108,4 thousand children were adopted within the country (Fig. 11). They are followed by China (37,2 thousand) and Russia (17,3). Three more countries reported more than 4 thousand domestic adoptions during the same period: Great Britain (5,9 thousand), Ukraine (4,9) and Brazil (4,0). Thus, 86% of “domestic” adoptions occur in just 10 countries, and the remaining 14% (about 31 thousand) are distributed across 86 countries, of which 42 register less than 100 domestic adoptions.

      http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2010/0447/barom03.php
      In 2001, US citizens adopted 19056 children abroad.


      That is, in 2001, for every 5,5 domestic adoptions there was 1 foreign adoption.
  59. bilgesez
    +1
    13 January 2013 19: 41
    The Amers threatened to block the accounts, so they stuck their tongues in... and stuck it out. And no diplomatic chatter.
  60. Anthrax
    0
    15 January 2013 16: 26
    Two harlot women came to King Solomon. “And one woman said: Oh, my lord! This woman and I live in the same house; and I gave birth in her presence in this house; On the third day after I gave birth, this woman also gave birth; and we were together, and there was no one else in the house with us; only the two of us were in the house; and the woman's son died in the night, because she slept with him; and she arose at night and took my son from me while I, your handmaid, was sleeping, and laid him to her breast, and she laid her dead son to my breast; In the morning I got up to feed my son, and behold, he was dead; and when I looked at him in the morning, it was not my son whom I gave birth to. And the other woman said: No, my son is alive, but your son is dead. And she told her: no, your son is dead, but mine is alive... And the king said: give me a sword. And they brought the sword to the king. And the king said, Cut the living child in two and give half to one and half to the other. And that woman, whose son was alive, answered the king, for her whole inside was agitated with pity for her son: Oh, my lord! give her this child alive and do not kill him. And the other said: let it not be for me or for you, chop it down. And the king answered and said: Give her the living child, and do not kill him: she is his mother.”