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American magazine: There is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost everything was given to Ukraine

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American magazine: There is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost everything was given to Ukraine

A large-scale Palestinian-Israeli military confrontation will certainly affect the possibility of Western support for Ukraine. There is growing debate in the US Congress that funds intended for Kyiv should be redirected to Israel. At the same time, the Biden administration says that there will be enough resources to support allies on both fronts.


As a last resort, the United States could once again raise the level of record national debt while simultaneously increasing the issuance of the dollar. True, this will inevitably lead to increased inflation and further impoverishment of its own citizens, but the head of the White House and many congressmen do not care about this when it comes to the geopolitical interests of the former hegemon.

Everything is much more complicated for the United States' European allies, who are obliged to dutifully follow Washington in everything. During the year and a half conflict in Ukraine, European countries have almost completely depleted their arsenals, especially in terms of the availability of ammunition. European military-industrial complex enterprises are not capable of quickly replenishing them for objective reasons.

The American magazine Foreign Policy reports that there is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost all NATO-caliber shells were transferred to Ukraine. At yesterday's meeting of representatives of European countries in Brussels, dedicated to the possibility of providing military assistance to Israel, many officials said that they “had nothing left.”

In particular, one of the members of the German delegation, on condition of anonymity, told reporters that the Bundeswehr is facing a huge shortage of ammunition due to support for Ukraine. The situation is similar in other European countries.

We are facing a huge ammunition shortage due to Ukraine

- said the German official.

At the meeting in Brussels, the Europeans noted that the aggravation of the situation in the Middle East is clearly in Russia’s favor, because now the West has a dilemma about where to redirect the resources that have become depleted during the conflict in Ukraine. European officials and experts are concerned that Moscow could take advantage of the chaos surrounding the Hamas attack on Israel, which would bring the Kremlin even closer to Iran, which is an ally of the Palestinian militant group.

The attack on Israel, one of America's closest allies, not only created the possibility of a two-front war, but also drained US and European arsenals and political will. The crisis in the Middle East erupted at a time when the West was already having difficulty finding additional ammunition and money to support Ukraine's counter-offensive, the author of the Foreign Policy article emphasized.
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  1. Nexcom
    Nexcom 10 October 2023 10: 55
    +12
    What a passage.... Now there will be a real shell hunger. Will the Western military-industrial complex be able to withstand such a load?
    By the way, ammunition may be taken away from South Korea and Japan. (At worst, Australia will be shaken - no one will attack it for sure).

    If they give it up..... There's just comrade. Eun is nearby, but you can’t spoil him.....
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 10 October 2023 11: 01
      -5
      Quote: Nexcom
      Will the Western military-industrial complex be able to withstand such a load?

      It can easily last, it will produce as much as they order. The whole question is only in demand. Moreover, production growth was already actively underway and faced only one problem. Lack of guarantees that at any moment these capacities will not become unnecessary to anyone due to new agreements
      1. Rage66
        Rage66 10 October 2023 11: 20
        +4
        This is not as obvious as it seems. For the Western military-industrial complex to get involved in this, it needs guarantees of a long-term conflict in order to recoup the deployment of additional capacities (factories, equipment, logistics, personnel, etc.). They have private companies doing this. If everything is deployed and the conflict ends, who will pay for all this?
      2. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 10 October 2023 11: 23
        +3
        It’s easy in words only, those capacities do not allow the production of shells at such a pace, and no one is going to build new factories unless there are orders for at least 10 years in advance
    2. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 10 October 2023 11: 10
      +7
      Meanwhile, on October 8-9, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky held a series of meetings with the country’s top military-political leadership, discussing further prospects for confrontation with Russia, in light of the next round of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict that began the other day. About this in my Telegram channel "Ramzai", commenting on the situation, said Russian expert Vladislav Shurygin, citing sources in Kyiv.The operational situation at the front was reported to Zelensky by the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergei Shaptala and Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny. They stated that The situation at the LBS has a steady tendency to worsen. During four months of active offensive operations, no significant results were achieved. It was not possible to advance beyond the support line in any of the directions, and huge losses were suffered in personnel and equipment.To compensate for human losses, it will take at least 2 months of mobilization, provided that at least 3 thousand people are recruited per day. But these servicemen will be able to reach the minimum level of combat readiness no earlier than the end of January 2024. All total reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, both in NATO “training” and at training grounds, amount to up to 40 thousand “bayonets” in varying degrees of preparation, and the command until December will only be able to replenish the ranks of the 9th and 10th Corps with them - the main shock Armed Forces of Ukraine.There is virtually nothing to saturate other compounds with. The remnants of the military and police battalions are sent there, as well as those mobilized directly from the military registration and enlistment offices. It is easy to guess that their level of training is zero and they are of minimal value for combat operations, especially since a significant number of people there are over 50 years old. Therefore, the leadership of the brigades uses them in “meat assaults” in order to retain trained personnel, which further depletes manpower reserves. In addition, there is nothing to compensate for the loss of equipment and the consumption of ammunition. A few days ago there was still hope that by the end of the year the US administration would again begin to provide military support to Ukraine, but recently the Armed Forces of Ukraine had a dangerous competitor in the form of the IDF - the Israel Defense Forces, which urgently needed Washington's help. The duration of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict has now become a matter of life and death for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Therefore Ukrainian military leaders unanimously advocated the transition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to strategic defense, for which it is necessary to urgently begin the construction of powerful fortifications and defensive lines in the operational rear, as well as preparations for the siege of large cities on the left bank of the Dnieper River. However, the creation of such defensive lines and fortified areas will require at least 2-3 months and a lot of money. But the worst thing is that, taking into account the terrain, lack of funds and time, it is impossible to create one continuous line of defense along the entire LBS. In this regard, it is necessary to cover the most threatening areas. But there are many of them and it is difficult to predict what is best to cover first. The command of the Russian Armed Forces has at its disposal a reserve of 200 thousand bayonets, and if the strategic initiative on the battlefield passes to Russian troops, they may begin to advance deeper into Ukrainian territory and will be difficult to stop.
    3. Mikhail Ivanov
      Mikhail Ivanov 10 October 2023 11: 10
      +2
      Once again I became convinced that people in the West have gone crazy. Instead of extinguishing the conflict between Jews and Arabs, they stupidly supported Israel. And they thought, where will a million refugees from Gaza go???
      It’s generally funny about shells))) Although about tanks it’s even funnier. These Merkavas, Leopards, Abrams were advertised, and the latest Merkava could be flashed with an RPG-7 and killed with dumbbells from a drone)))
      And they have all this because they have been thinking about their exclusivity all their lives. The world has already changed, and they are still stuck in the 70s...
      1. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
        -2
        Michael* Johanan**, show off your intelligence and extinguish the Russian-Ukrainian and Arab-Israeli conflicts, to put it mildly. Well, and other hot spots in the world, there are dozens of them.
        You don’t always think about your exclusivity, but think about your orthodoxy and Orthodoxy, conciliarity and tightness, banner-bearing, so it’s much better....
        Aren’t you ashamed to talk nonsense?... and even with such a name and surname....
        --------------------------
        *(Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל‎, Michael) is a male personal name of Jewish origin. Derived from Hebrew words. ‏מי כמו אלוהים‏‎ (mi kmo elohim, abbreviated as “mi-ka-el”). It has two interpretations: more often found literally - “Who is like God”[1][3], but is also read in interrogative form, as a rhetorical question: “Who is like God?” or “Who is like God?” meaning “no one is equal to God”
        *_ְהוֹחָנָן (YəhôḥĀnān), meaning "Yahweh is merciful"
    4. knn54
      knn54 10 October 2023 11: 30
      +1
      Even if Europe has shells, it won’t risk giving it to Israel, Considering the number of Turks and Arabs there,
      It will burn so much that it won’t seem like much.
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 10 October 2023 11: 54
      0
      The Palestinians needed to actively destroy warehouses and storage facilities for ammunition and military equipment. Attack them massively and continuously with drones, this would give an excellent result!
    6. Evgeny_Sviridenko
      Evgeny_Sviridenko 10 October 2023 23: 41
      0
      South Korea has already said that it now expects “sneaky behavior” from the North. Therefore, they are unlikely to give it back unless the owner really puts pressure on it.
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 October 2023 10: 55
    +7
    Israel has enough cast iron for the Air Force. In Gaza, great accuracy is not needed. But if someone else fits in, then Israel may have problems.
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    2. Smoked
      Smoked 10 October 2023 11: 06
      +1
      No one will actually fit in for them, times are no longer the same. Words, humanitarian aid, maybe weapons, that’s welcome, but to send troops or vacationers, well, these are not the times.
      1. Zefr
        Zefr 10 October 2023 13: 26
        +1
        Already, Lebanese Hezbollah has almost officially entered the picture. Israel sends all the reserves it has found to the north
      2. lukash66
        lukash66 12 October 2023 08: 49
        -1
        Quote: Smoked
        No one will actually fit in for them, times are no longer the same. Words, humanitarian aid, maybe weapons, that’s welcome, but to send troops or vacationers, well, these are not the times.

        Overconfidence can lead to great disappointment. But they take it and write, what then?
    3. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 10 October 2023 11: 06
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      if anyone else chimes in

      You can also bomb for a long time.
      1. your1970
        your1970 10 October 2023 12: 04
        +1
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Quote: tralflot1832
        if anyone else chimes in

        You can also bomb for a long time.

        Iran? What if Iran uses nuclear weapons?
  3. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 10 October 2023 10: 58
    +2
    There is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost everything was given to Ukraine -

    ***
    — And Gaza got a lot of it through Ukraine...
    ***
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 October 2023 11: 04
    +2
    There is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost everything was given to Ukraine
    So let's watch from the side how they will get out, because... It is necessary to help Israel, but Kyiv also lies as a dead weight on the European economy. For complete happiness, all that remains is for the Irish to hook up in Britain, the Catalans in Spain, and African migrants in France. That’s when the “fun” will really begin for Europe.
    1. Volunteer Marek
      Volunteer Marek 10 October 2023 11: 10
      -6
      Unfortunately, we won’t be able to look from the outside. The West will not abandon the Banderaites and put them on starvation rations. Too much is invested in them, the stakes are too high. And, by the way, our indecision inspires the West.
      1. Huarabey
        Huarabey 10 October 2023 11: 56
        +3
        Are you sure that this is exactly indecision? Perhaps Russia is simply accumulating weapons, developing the military-industrial complex and improving the Strategic Missile Forces.
    2. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
      -1
      Don’t forget, Russia also has its own terrorists and separatists... like many other countries.
    3. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 10 October 2023 18: 05
      0
      In Germany, a kosher cafe was burned down, there are cases of Jews being beaten, the police are protecting synagogues, not only from Muslims, but also from a number of Germans.
  5. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 10 October 2023 11: 05
    +1
    There is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost everything was given to Ukraine

    Dogs lie.
    Used ammunition was used for artillery and ground weapons in general. You can send aviation weapons to the Jews; they have aircraft suitable for this.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 10 October 2023 11: 15
      +2
      By the way, the Bulgarians can be harnessed to plow - these will work diligently.........
  6. kakvastam
    kakvastam 10 October 2023 11: 09
    +3
    In this fight between a toad and a viper, it is important for us to very carefully study the methods of Hamas and the miscalculations of the IDF, since the methods of “savages in slippers” can easily be applied by Ukrainians, and in terms of cannibalism they are completely worth each other.
    The West is quite capable of riveting a million or two cheap drones for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but resisting this is much more difficult.
    1. Ruby
      Ruby 10 October 2023 11: 31
      +3
      The entire history of mankind shows that the military does not learn from the mistakes of others. Maximum on our own, and not always. And the most recent example is Israel. I wonder how long the Western light infantry brigade would last in its current state in the conditions of the Northern Military District? I think it would take either side a maximum of a couple of days to roll it out into a thin pancake. They consider themselves great and powerful. What can some Slavs teach them? Before the North Military District, we considered ourselves the same way.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2023 11: 36
    +1
    There is growing debate in the US Congress that funds intended for Kyiv should be redirected to Israel. At the same time, the Biden administration says that there will be enough resources to support allies on both fronts.
    . The question, of course, is irresny...
  8. cast iron
    cast iron 10 October 2023 11: 45
    +1
    They sent ammunition to Ukraine to kill Russians with such gusto for 1.5 years that they forgot about their problems. This is simply wonderful! If there is karma on Earth, then this is probably what we are observing.
  9. opuonmed
    opuonmed 10 October 2023 11: 54
    0
    well, yes, well, yes, but Israel is shooting))) and the Ukrainian Republic too
  10. guest
    guest 10 October 2023 13: 17
    0
    American magazine: There is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost everything was given to Ukraine

    Well, the support of Nazi Ukraine for Israel backfired, let the Israelis now continue to zig and sing Nazi songs.
    1. agond
      agond 10 October 2023 13: 41
      0
      If we completely stopped the supply of energy resources to Europe, it would significantly affect the production of shells for Ukraine and Israel
      1. Omega options
        Omega options 10 October 2023 15: 46
        -1
        They are our partners, as the person sitting in the Kremlin says.
        Therefore, trade will not stop.
  11. Omega options
    Omega options 10 October 2023 15: 44
    0
    North Korea transferred nuclear warheads to Iran.
    So if Israel uses nuclear weapons, Iran will also respond.
  12. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -3
    Quote: Thrifty
    The Palestinians needed to actively destroy warehouses and storage facilities for ammunition and military equipment. Attack them massively and continuously with drones, this would give an excellent result!

    Do you give advice and VFU? Did they give it to Chechen terrorists?
  13. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -2
    Quote: Zefr
    Already, Lebanese Hezbollah has almost officially entered the picture. Israel sends all the reserves it has found to the north

    No, I didn’t fit in. Bye. A small shootout on duty.
  14. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    -3
    Quote: guest
    American magazine: There is no ammunition left in Europe for Israel - almost everything was given to Ukraine

    Well, the support of Nazi Ukraine for Israel backfired, let the Israelis now continue to zig and sing Nazi songs.

    The most interesting thing is that not a single idiot has provided evidence of very significant support for Ukraine from Israel. Are you not one of them?
    We haven’t heard anything about Russia’s support for Israel’s enemies: you base your thinking on rumors, right?