Middle Eastern sources: Israel turned to the CIA to confirm Egyptian intelligence data about the increase in military activity in Gaza

Discussion continues of information from the head of Egyptian intelligence that they warned their Israeli counterparts about increased military activity in the Gaza Strip on October 5-6. Let us recall that, according to Abbas Kamel, he was very surprised that in Israel this information was received “extremely passively.” At the same time, the Israeli authorities called Kamel’s words “untrue” and “false,” and in Cairo they countered with the fact that they had a transcript of the corresponding conversation.

Against this background, evidence appears in the press that Israel actually received from Egypt “some information about military preparations in Gaza, near the Israeli borders.” And after this, the Israeli intelligence services decided to request confirmation from the US intelligence agencies.

Middle Eastern sources write that the CIA called Egyptian intelligence data “everyday.” Allegedly, military preparations by the armed wing of Hamas are a common occurrence and do not pose any additional threat to Israel. But in reality it turned out to be completely different.

If everything was exactly as reported in Egypt and in the press of other countries in the Middle East, then questions arise for Israeli intelligence itself. Why did she trust the analysis of the American intelligence community and did not herself draw any conclusions from the fact that Hamas has been increasing its military activity in recent weeks, including moving rocket launchers closer to the border? These questions, which remain unanswered for now, only fuel the conspiracy theories that Israel themselves might have known about preparations for an attack by Hamas.

Meanwhile, the Israeli rear command some time ago called on citizens to prepare to spend at least the next three days in a bomb shelter. People are advised to stock up on water and food, hygiene products, charge communication equipment, collect first aid kits, and prepare a change of clothes. Thus, the Israeli authorities do not exclude the possibility that new missile attacks may be launched on the country in response to the operation carried out in the Palestinian territories.

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[Silver99]

What Israel is doing in Gaza is ethnic genocide, striking densely populated areas and starving people and starving people without water using Nazi methods, there is no justification for this.

[sadam2]

Hamas took 200 people there, which means it takes responsibility for its civilians in Gaza. Right now the water supply to Gaza is being cut off. Real blockade. Two million can't last long without water
The aircraft carrier will arrive in the morning

[cast iron]

And what did the Palestinian terrorists do on September 7th - is it a flash mob and fraternization of peoples or what? At a music festival, unarmed girls were shot, and dozens more were dragged away as hostages. How is that? Do you approve?

[Clear]

Quote: cast iron

And what did the Palestinian terrorists do on September 7th - is it a flash mob and fraternization of peoples or what? At a music festival, unarmed girls were shot, and dozens more were dragged away as hostages. How is that? Do you approve?

During the capture of Melitopol, Kherson and Mariupol, our guys fought with the regular army and tried to minimize losses among the population. Our guys were shot at by guns, tanks, and all means of destruction.
The Israeli army is fighting with irregular formations, using the entire spectrum from carpet bombing to grenades at the windows of residential areas. What will the liberal public say? Will you care? Figurines!
Is this humanity? Total lie.

[cast iron]

Are you having problems with your head? What does “our guys” have to do with it in Melitopol? There is a fact of a terrorist attack on civilians. There are a lot of videos where the corpses of civilians lie on the streets. Some were shot from machine guns, some were killed as a result of a rocket hit. And there are still a bunch of young people shot at a music festival. And another hundred or two were taken hostage. Civilian. Have a conscience and call a spade a spade. The Israeli special services and military are also “good” if they suddenly accuse me of siding with one side. They have a long-standing conflict. They've been killing each other for decades. But here you are trying to justify the murder of unarmed civilians.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: cast iron

But here you are trying to justify the murder of unarmed civilians.

You are talking to a racist. She is one of these - “Russia for Russians”.

[Myths]

Former US Congressman Ron Paul: "Hamas was created by the Israeli government to oppose Yasser Arafat."
Former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzak Rabin: "Supporting and creating Hamas was a fatal mistake."
Former commandant of Gaza, IDF Brigadier General Yitzak Segev, in an interview with NYT: “The government gave me money that I had to spend on supporting the Islamists in Gaza in order to prevent the growth of the influence of Fatah and the communists.”
Former expert on interaction with the Arab population in the IDF, Colonel David Hakam: “Israel’s support for extremists like Yassin (founder of Hamas) is an original sin, but then no one thought about the consequences.”
Rabbi Avner Cohen, who was in charge of religious affairs in Gaza for 20 years: "Hamas, to my great regret, is a creation of Israel." In the 80s, he prepared an entire report for the Israeli government, the conclusion of which was a warning about the threat of the creation of a terrorist Islamist cell and, as a result, a strong recommendation to immediately stop playing “divide and rule” in Gaza. One of his quotes on this topic is: “Stop supporting this monster before you face the dire consequences.”

So they are fighting against what they themselves created. But at the same time, disregarding the aborigines, demolishing houses with civilians. What will the “patriots” Galkin, Sobchak and others say to this?! Although so much garbage has already poured out of them, it makes one cringe at the mention. So whose cow would moo? They prepared using terrorist methods, and that’s the investigation.

[Arkadich]

Since when did the Egyptians become bureaucrats? They kept a transcript.
But if this is true, then this is a bomb, at least under the guidance of intelligence, and at maximum.....

[antivirus]

Labuda. Everyone lies about dream interpretation.
Provocations inside Israel.
The specialist made a mistake. For a decisive solution to the Palestinian issue. In their own way, without the opinion of the Palestinians.
The soft-bodied liberals lost in the BBB. So politics in the USA will be turned upside down

[tralflot1832]

Comrades, Jews in Israel, oil is growing slowly. 22: 50 - 88,21 $ per barrel. Come on, let's push ourselves! We need every dollar for oil - to destroy the regime of a Jew - a non-Nazi in Ukraine. Forward on Palestinian bayonets - for us in Ukraine it will be easier. We care what’s going on there. We “root” only for our men who are breaking the back of emerging Nazism in Europe. We will weed this “Garden of Eden” of yours from nits.

[A2AD]

Since when did the Egyptians become bureaucrats? They kept a transcript.

Apparently the Egyptians know too well that you can’t take the Jews at their word, these scoundrels will always twist everything. So we made a recording. And as it turned out, they were right.

[opposite28]

Dismantling the rubble of Palestinian neighborhoods is still ahead, but we can already say with confidence that there are more than one thousand casualties among the civilian population of Arab nationalities, as the Israeli media insist, not to mention the wounded

[cast iron]

Nobody reads the Jewish civilian (and not only them) victims of September 7? Or do you just not consider them people?

[Plate]

It turns out interesting. If Israel deliberately allowed such an attack on itself, then for what? This, I think, has shaken his authority, and what he is responding with now, won’t it become a reason and reason for Iran to intervene in the conflict one way or another? If we assume that Hamas decided to attack Israel out of the blue, then I can understand (but not justify) the current actions of the Jews, but it is unlikely that any militants could have organized this on their own. And here I no longer understand the actions of the Israeli leadership. What are his goals? Get a reason to close the Palestinian issue by force? Why now, when an American friend has other problems? Why not earlier? In the same nineties and zeros. In general, yes, there are too many questions and misunderstandings that are drowned out by the explosions of bombs and missiles.

[Arkadich]

And here I no longer understand the actions of the Israeli leadership. What are his goals? Get a reason to close the Palestinian issue by force? Why now, when an American friend has other problems? Why not earlier? In the same nineties and zeros.

Did they have SUCH a reason in those days? And now the people of Israel have united in the face of an external threat, and the leadership is trying to cover up its mistakes.
Because as you well noticed

there are many questions and misunderstandings that are drowned out by the explosions of bombs and missiles.

[Plate]

Quote: Arkadich

Did they have SUCH a reason in those days?

If we assume that what happened was deliberately allowed by the Israeli leadership, then such a reason could have been created even then. There are really only two options left: “I don’t understand anything” and “The Israeli leadership is trying to shade out internal problems.” But how serious would the INTERNAL problems have to be to start changing the entire Middle East because of them, as the Israeli Prime Minister said?
I can’t shake the feeling that some third force needs this.

[fiv]

Biden started in Ukraine because of candy wrappers, but why not Netanyaha? It looks like he's running out of time, so...

[Adrey]

Quote: Plate

In general, yes, there are too many questions and misunderstandings that are drowned out by the explosions of bombs and missiles.

Absolutely right! Too much.

Quote: Plate

Assuming that Hamas decided to attack Israel out of the blue,

For what? What goals did Hamas pursue? What did you want to achieve and in exactly this way? Well, they would have shouted on the air for everyone, launched a thousand more missiles at Israel and calmed down. Everyone has long been accustomed to this. No! DRG raid on cities and military bases.
But here the “puppeteer” clearly calculated the Arabs. After some successes, they took up their “usual, favorite business”, began to extinguish the “peaceful” and take hostages. Blood and success are intoxicating, torture is used. Well, how can you not post your “exploits” online after this? Everyone should appreciate the toughness and heroism of the “warriors of Allah.”

And here I no longer understand the actions of the Israeli leadership. What are his goals?

And then Israel’s reaction was clearly calculated. He seriously punished his opponents for less, but then he had to declare war. If he had not done this, no one would have understood him. But he knows how to fight, and mercilessly, and after such a “video” he will be doubly “severe.” And no one will say a word to reproach him (at least now). Well, territories can be squeezed out quite “legally” (in Israeli) for this purpose. And Beni’s image will go to heaven at the moment, and the people will “unite and all as one,” and there will be no discussion of judicial reform.
The situation in the Middle East is now very interesting. Nobody wants war, but everyone MUST support their fellow believers. The spectacle of Gaza being razed to the ground will excite many, and not only religious fanatics, although there are plenty of those too. Monarchies, sultanates, and “eastern democracies” need to somehow respond to all this; even the Taliban did not stand aside.

Why now, when an American friend has other problems? Why not earlier?

Well, all the many years of work of the State Department to create a pole of power to spite China, in the person of India, with Saudi money and Israeli brains, went to waste for about 20-25 years.
Who did it!!!??? Who is this GENIUS!? We'll find out in 150 years (maybe)

[Plate]

Are you trying to hint that the Chinese could have organized this? Judging by the penultimate paragraph. No, well... why not? They have a lot of money, the benefits are obvious to them, and few people expect this from them.

[Adrey]

Quote: Plate

Are you trying to hint that the Chinese could have organized this? Judging by the penultimate paragraph. No, well... why not? They have a lot of money, the benefits are obvious to them, and few people expect this from them.

Can . And there are also countries that benefit from this and have been present in the BV for a very long time and sometimes successfully

Quote: Adrey

Who did it!!!??? Who is this GENIUS!? We'll find out in 150 years (maybe)

[PavelT]

Or China and Iran. This is also an option, also weakly provable.

[Adrey]

Quote: PavelT

Or China with Iran.

But here it’s more likely not. Iran has found itself in the most “inconvenient” and dangerous situation. By openly declaring the destruction of Israel, he seems to be the first to fall under the threat. But wars of destruction don’t start like that, especially with a country that has nuclear weapons. Why expose yourself so “stupidly”?
And it’s not his style, if I’m right. Too subtle. Iran is the IRGC in Syria and supplies missiles, drones, and “proxies.”

[opposite28]

The reaction in Arab countries will not be long in coming. Israelis and Jews should beware. Not to mention attending mass events in synagogues around the world in the absence of security confidence in the event of terrorist attacks

[A2AD]

Not to mention attending mass events in synagogues around the world in the absence of security confidence in the possibility of terrorist attacks

What kind of terrorist attacks can we talk about if the Jews have officially declared war on the entire Muslim world? And synagogues that are used by military forces have completely legitimate purposes. This does not even take into account the fact that Israel is actively destroying mosques, despite the fact that only civilians, children and old people are in them.

[fa2998]

Quote from Silver99

Nazi methods to starve people and lack water,

Actually, this is called services. And you have to pay for it. Even NO ONE WILL JUST provide you with electricity and water. And you won’t call your public utilities Nazis when they “cut you off” for non-payment.

[Silver99]

Actually, this is called OCCUPATION. Up to 3 million people live in Gaza, expelled by Jews in 1967 from their land after the war, the most Nazi methods are to kill first, and then present the bill to relatives. You will clear the lands of Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Egypt from your presence and there will be no need for your utility bills.

[Berserk23]

One red-haired occupier reformer and his wife have already been seen at the airport, now where are they going to occupy...

[Dynamo]

They gave everything to Lebanon and Egypt. They left the Gaza Strip a long time ago and there is no occupation of Gaza. There is no Israeli army on its territory. However, soon he will come to restore order

[Arkadich]

Actually, this is called services. And you have to pay for it. Even NO ONE WILL JUST provide you with electricity and water.

Those. do you want to say that the Gaza Strip has stopped paying? Did he even pay?
Aoron Zaavi, please enlighten me, if it is not difficult, how and at whose expense the supplies of gas, water, etc. were carried out. to the Gaza Strip.

[Huarabey]

It turns out that the Israelis were misled by the CIA, assuring them that nothing unusual was happening? And here it becomes even more interesting, either the CIA is able to assert something that it has no idea about, or this was done deliberately.

[Leshak]

Another strange military operation. At least the beginning of it. There are too many unknowns in Israel's behavior. Now the CIA has an erroneous assessment of the situation. There are a lot of questions and few answers. There is some kind of catch here. It looks like someone's monstrous plan and it's not Hamas. Director behind the scenes.

[Hariton laptev]

Middle Eastern sources: Israel turned to the CIA to confirm Egyptian intelligence data about the increase in military activity in Gaza

Like I contacted him but didn’t respond. EUU, Those who downvoted me are the sons of the promised land. I will say a hundred times that everything that was done was a provocation of Israel. Well, you can’t waste an attack from all directions. The states and Israel were preparing. The only goal is to set fire to the region and draw Iran in. The war in the country has not burned out, another one is needed. You can throw slippers again, but it won’t help. Lebanon has already, albeit cautiously, begun to support Palestinian fighters.

[Fangaro]

The population of Israel is approximately 10 million. During the day they called 300 thousand. 3 percent. And they called up reservists with weapons, equipment and regular training.
And then how many other countries can “call under arms” in a day?

[Dynamo]

In fact, this is more than 3% because the Arab population of Israel does not serve in the army

[alexoff]

Hasidim do not serve either. But the country is historically heavily militarized

[Berserk23]

Israel needed a casus belli, a kind of Pearl Harbor, to become a victim...Mossad cannot but know what is going on in Gaza...There is a reason to start ethnic cleansing of Arabs, hundreds of thousands of people will be bombed according to the Old Testament, the rest will flee to Egypt.. .Aliyev managed to evict the Armenians who had lived in Karabakh for 3 thousand years...Inter. the organs were silent

[alexoff]

It seems to me that Israel needed to find out from the CIA about the combat effectiveness of its troops, otherwise they were apparently sure that again, from a couple of machine-gun bursts, the Hamas troops would scatter, shoot with kasamas, and they would be bombed for this. But it turned out that the king was naked, that the soldiers didn’t really know what to do, that there was essentially no one to fight for many kilometers around Gaza, that for some reason hundreds of drones and other wonders of technology did not take off at once

[Chief Officer Lom]

It looks like Israel was set up by the United States. For what? And then, recently, the Chinese have developed vigorous activity to pacify the Middle East, the Saudis are making peace with Iran, Israel is establishing relations with a number of Arab states that were considered its irreconcilable enemies. Does the US need real, lasting peace in this region? Yes, this is a disaster, they are becoming useless to anyone there, and there is a lot of oil there! And if not for Ukraine, this attack would have happened much earlier. But the Americans had to endure, hoping that Moscow would surrender. September was sunny, the hope for a “counter-offensive” delayed the moment, but with the arrival of the rains it became clear that there was nothing to wait any longer, and the go-ahead was given to the agents in Hamas and Israel. Isn’t it strange that at the time of the attack, the Israeli border checkpoints were practically empty, and the previously unprofessional Palestinian infantry suddenly acquired quite decent skills, which American instructors taught to ISIS fighters and other freedom fighters in camps in Syria and Iraq? And of course, we all unanimously believe that the Americans did not notice the BUSINESS of the Ukrainian military in selling American weapons to Arabs? I would rather believe that they will miss the transfer of secret technologies, but they will never leave business, and even at their expense, unnoticed. But now you can turn innocent eyes and blame everything on the thieving Ukrainians, and all Arab countries have already supported the Palestinians, and for at least the next 10 years, Israel’s enmity with them is guaranteed.

[alexoff]

Well, just in a minute the Middle East will make peace against Israel

[lukash66]

Aron, I don’t know where to write. Honestly, I was angry at you, the Jews. Honestly, I didn’t know what these scumbags were doing there. Everything is somehow in the news. But there, of course, you have a full one. I'm here for you. Kill these non-humans. Rackets, bombs, whatever comes to hand. This is really a beast. The bloomers weren't close by.

[nepunamemuk]

read about the Jewish wars
They killed the “non-humans” even then
hundreds of thousands
Civil
Romans Greeks...
I had to evict them
after one thousand eight hundred years they returned...

[Incvizitor]

Cutting off the enclave's access to water, electricity and food is a crime against humanity and requires international intervention to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas during a conversation with Erdogan.

In general, I have some suspicions about the Turks for all this, they don’t need the friendship of the Jews with the Saudis, and all these fshatsky projects of trade routes where the Turks did not take into account the “grain” from 404, these dialogues also went through the Turks...

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Arkadich

Since when did the Egyptians become bureaucrats? They kept a transcript.
But if this is true, then this is a bomb, at least under the guidance of intelligence, and at maximum.....

And since such messages are always recorded, in any country in the world.

[Mekey Iptyshev]

Main question. Who is the customer of all this? Who gave the command to the militants?
My opinion is the USA. If you read foreign news. There were negotiations ahead. Israel - Saudi Arabia - Palestine. After the Chinese, for the first time in history, brought the irreconcilable Iran and Saudi Arabia to the negotiating table. And after Biden's failed negotiations with the Saudi prince last year. US influence has fallen sharply in the Middle East. And the warming of relations between Jews and one of the centers of the Arab world could gradually lead Israel out of the American sphere and into the Chinese “roof.”
Now, after the terrible footage of hundreds of killed civilians and the new insane mutual extermination of everyone on both sides, any talk of negotiations between Israel and Saudi Arabia is almost impossible.
Washington does not want to lose its last loyal base and vassal in the Middle East.
And in the new war, Jews and Palestinians are just pawns in a big game between two powers: China and the United States.

[Lord]

They got used to bombing Syria or even Palestine with impunity, and when it arrived they burst into tears

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Adrey

Palestinian terrorists

You're right; This is a brilliantly planned operation at all levels. Master's hand...

[Huarabey]

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