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US authorities: we are sending an aircraft carrier group to the shores of Israel as a warning to countries wishing to intervene in the conflict

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US authorities: we are sending an aircraft carrier group to the shores of Israel as a warning to countries wishing to intervene in the conflict

Washington decided to demonstrate support for Israel by sending an aircraft carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean. The US authorities also explain the sending of their AUG as (quote) “a warning to those countries that want to intervene in the Middle East conflict. That is, another “surge” of American hegemony, when they do not consider the sending of their warships to the region as interference.


An aircraft carrier group consists of a number of ships, including, in fact, an aircraft carrier. This is Gerald Ford. In addition to it, the US Navy sent (fingers crossed) the destroyers Nitze, Farragut, Traxtan, Dilbert Black, as well as the missile cruiser Leyte Gulf to the shores of Israel.

This is the largest aircraft carrier strike group that the Americans have sent to the Mediterranean in recent years. On board an aircraft carrier there are up to hundreds of combat weapons aviation, including carrier-based versions of the 5th generation F-35 fighters.

Experts are discussing the American warning and putting forward versions of who the AUG might be directed against. In some cases, Türkiye sounds. Of course, they will not fight against Erdogan, but it is quite possible to indicate their presence precisely so that the Turks do not try to help the Gaza Strip.

The issue of countering Iran if it decides to intervene directly in the conflict is also being considered. The missile range of the US Navy cruiser is sufficient to reach Iranian military bases and ports.
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  1. Ripap
    Ripap 8 October 2023 21: 44
    +38
    Oh, I wish I could send them anti-ship missiles, even the most outdated ones. "Moscow" must be avenged
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 8 October 2023 21: 47
      +35
      Quote: RipRap
      Oh, I wish I could send them anti-ship missiles

      Maybe the Ukrainian mine will be carried there by a fair wind.
    2. Arzoo
      Arzoo 8 October 2023 21: 51
      +13
      How Bastions are needed there. Oh how needed. And a couple of MIGs with daggers.
      1. bayard
        bayard 8 October 2023 22: 46
        +27
        Quote: Arzoo
        How Bastions are needed there. Oh how needed.

        There are "Bastions" in Tartus. And sometimes Tu-22M3 with Kh-32 are based in Khmeimim.
        But this is not our war.
        In addition, Ukraine has already helped Palestine with weapons. Israel will be grateful.
        1. Vicontas
          Vicontas 9 October 2023 00: 42
          +19
          Well, why is it so trivial - “Bastions”, rockets, planes! Maybe it’s better to remember the successful attack by Yemeni drones on the oil plants of Saudi Arabia? When the Saudi air defense system supplied by the Americans completely failed! But you can do it again! Send a swarm of drones. Drones without markings - just guess which barmaley collected them and on whose knees. If something flies and booms, the effect will be deafening for the USA! Imagine the headlines - “Penny drones have ruined America’s strike force!” And if the Fordika’s deck is also damaged, it will no longer be an aircraft carrier, but “movable property”!
          1. Vita vko
            Vita vko 9 October 2023 02: 27
            +11
            Quote: Vicontas
            Drones without markings

            America must know its heroes. Ukrainian markings on UAVs and unmanned boats will be just right.
            In extreme cases, launching several BrahMos from an unknown carrier in Iran or Lebanon would also be a good answer for our cruiser Moscow. Now it’s impossible to play with one goal. Otherwise we’ll end up with a nuclear war. The United States must finally understand that Russia is not a whipping boy, and a proxy war can easily be carried out against them.
            1. bayard
              bayard 9 October 2023 03: 34
              +5
              Quote: Vita VKO
              A proxy war can easily be carried out against them as well.

              Well, for starters, let this AUG give at least a reason for such an attitude towards it. Maybe they go there the same way as to North Korea - they swim there/here. And the Palestinians have enough attack drones. True, the Lebanese Hezbollah has them, but there are already statements that if Israel launches a ground operation, the Shiite brothers will help the Sunni Palestinians. Everything is just beginning there and... this is not our war.
              But this war in the BV in many ways gives us a free hand in the Northern Black Sea region. Used aid will no longer be available in the same volumes, and if a scandal is stirred up about Ukrainian arms smuggling to the Palestinians... they may even become outcasts... and after the scandal with honoring a fascist from "SS-Galicia" in Canada... And this after the failure of the summer counter-offensive and against the backdrop of trains of ammunition from North Korea ...
              Everything may soon change in the protracted SVO.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 9 October 2023 07: 05
                0
                Quote: bayard
                Used aid will no longer be available in the same volumes, and if a scandal is stirred up about Ukrainian arms smuggling to the Palestinians... they may even become outcasts... and after the scandal with the honoring of a fascist from “SS-Galicia” in Canada..

                Let's be realistic. There will be help for Svidobanderoukra. The volumes will be large, Honoring a fascist...? This is their own Nazi, "it's not what you think... it's different" "DyvyZiya ESS Galychina - DyvyZiya HEROES" these are their heroes! There were and will be their heroes. Counterattack failure? Until Russia goes on the offensive, there is no failure. In the Northern Military District there are rocket attacks on Sevastopol, shelling of Belgorod, Donetsk, we have been taking unfortunate Avdeevka for more than a year and a half... Plus there is a shell hunger in our troops. Otherwise, why do we need shells from the DPRK? I understand b.z. there is no such thing as excess. But ! Changes are not particularly visible yet. I'll be happy to be wrong. hiBut ! They will soon be given F-16 aircraft, missiles for it, long-range cruise missiles and many more things that are unexpected for us.. For now this is reality.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 9 October 2023 14: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  Let's be realistic. There will be help for Svidobanderoukra. Volumes will be large

                  Apparently I didn't express myself clearly enough. The United States and NATO are experiencing serious difficulties in supplying used shells and other ammunition; there are also problems with allocating finances for this; it is urgent to arm and strengthen Taiwan and begin measures to contain China. For them, it is China that is now the biggest problem. They would like a break in a used one... and then a new regional war begins and their main ally in the region asks for urgent help.
                  Here the stars aligned - I want to get rid of the used one at least for a while and new resources are needed to help Israel. The United States, after all, the day before removed from there huge reserves of shells and other ammunition for used... and now Israel is demanding urgent deliveries. And you have to choose who to give it to.
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  DyvyZiya ESS GalYchina - DyvyZiya HEROES “these are their heroes!

                  Who would doubt this, because they created the “new Ukraine” on these “values” and “heroes”.
                  But ! They now need a reason to pause on second-hand. That is why they are promoting hysteria with corruption in Kiev, insisting on the mandatory holding of presidential elections on time, and then, as if on order, a scandal with a former SS man (it turned out to be a good shake-up), and then - a huge amount of Western weapons supplied to Ukraine and simply from its warehouses was found in the possession of Palestinian militants , including British and American anti-tank roof busters... What is not a reason? And with clear intervals in the receipt of information.
                  Means what ?
                  This means that we urgently need to change the power in the used one and request for this... a “truce”. Because they really need it. Israel is beginning a serious regional war, which will require very large resources. After all, the Arabs are no longer the same, and Turkey is not averse to removing a competitor from the region, and for China, a war on the other side of the continent is preferable to starting a war in the Pacific.
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  In the Northern Military District there are rocket attacks on Sevastopol, shelling of Belgorod, Donetsk

                  Yes, just now something heavy flew across Donetsk again, and yesterday it flew, and even rifle fire was heard in the evening/at night, although I live almost in the center. And why the fascists became more active again is understandable - they need to remain on the information agenda, show their readiness to fight further, which means they need to be supplied in the same volumes or even better - for the result to appear.
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  shell hunger in our troops

                  They don't have abundance either. Well, we are accumulating forces and rearming the Army. Already in the spring, the troops will have both “Coalitions” and “Mallows”, and much more. And the echelons from Comrade Kim have already left. So there will be changes, but I would expect them by the beginning of next summer. Then the New Big Army will be ready. For the offensive.
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  They will soon be given F-16 aircraft, missiles for it, long-range cruise missiles and many more things that are unexpected for us..

                  They will. But it’s already autumn, it’s getting colder and it’s raining, then frosts. The next winter will most likely be cold... And the F-16s are very capricious in terms of basing conditions and quality of service. I don't think they will be given in the winter. Most likely by mid-to-late spring - right in front of a new company. In the meantime, we need to prepare for missile duels, because more and more different things will be flying towards us... But ideally, the USA and NATO would like to get a year and a half of respite - they have ELECTIONS... which could even end in a Civil War. and a truce with Russia can be passed off as a victory. therefore there will be no truce.
                  This means that the supply of used goods will be reduced, because the European Bolivar will not be able to pull the cart alone. And if the USA, England and Co. want to get serious about China... they can simply hand over used equipment to us by stopping the supply and organizing its division. Russia will have something to do in the plague-ridden territory, it will have no time for China and big politics (their opinion and hope) and they will be able to break China’s sides.
                  In any case, the new war in the BV provides prerequisites and reasons for this.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 9 October 2023 15: 18
                    0
                    Quote: bayard
                    . Russia will have something to do in the plague-ridden territory, it will have no time for China and big politics (their opinion and hope) and they will be able to break China’s sides.
                    In any case, the new war in the BV provides prerequisites and reasons for this.

                    You described everything correctly. Me too . But, as they say, trust in God, but don’t make a mistake yourself. Our country needs a strong army. And all the terms attached to it. drinks Our leadership should not believe in chance.
            2. ilya63
              ilya63 9 October 2023 07: 23
              +1
              Why not jump from a nuclear submarine somewhere above a depth of 10+ km? Go and find torpedo fragments!!!
              1. Kerensky
                Kerensky 9 October 2023 07: 42
                +2
                Why not fly away from a nuclear submarine somewhere above a depth of 10+ km?

                Take the lot and start taking measurements of the Mediterranean.
              2. Petr_Koldunov
                Petr_Koldunov 9 October 2023 11: 07
                0
                Quote: ilya63
                Why not fly away from a nuclear submarine somewhere above a depth of 10+ km?

                In this case, the nuclear submarine would have to go to the Pacific Ocean. The depth of “somewhere 10+ km” on our planet is only there, and then only at five of its points. But it’s not very convenient to shoot across the Mediterranean from there..
          2. Berkut752
            Berkut752 9 October 2023 11: 59
            0
            Vicontas (Vicontas), Oh, I adore you and what do you think, “not an aircraft carrier, but “movable property”!” And what is the price of “movable property” today......
        2. alystan
          alystan 9 October 2023 00: 43
          +2
          In addition, Ukraine has already helped Palestine with weapons. Israel will be grateful.

          So we, too, should be grateful to the Mukachevo people who drove this shipment of weapons to the Palestinians, which otherwise would have been used against our guys.
          1. bayard
            bayard 9 October 2023 03: 46
            +5
            Quote: alystan
            Likewise, we should be grateful to the Mukachevo people who drove this shipment of weapons to the Palestinians,

            There were many parties there, and not only the Mukachevo players distinguished themselves. There will be many more wonderful discoveries. And we have known for a long time that the Ukrainians pushed weapons to the Palestinians, Yemenis and other fighters for truth and freedom almost according to ship standards.
            I wouldn’t be surprised if used weapons soon start to appear both in the British Isles and in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. After all, they sold there too. And a lot of weapons for “Arab refugees” floated to France from there. And to Germany. And to Italy.
            Coming soon.
            For Israel’s war against Palestine is already putting Arab Street on the ears, incl. in Turkey, throughout the Middle East and North Africa. The slightest solidarity with Israel from the countries of Europe, NATO, the USA and... they will receive everything for which they brought millions of Arabs and blacks to their countries.
        3. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 9 October 2023 13: 27
          -1
          after delivery to the Ukrainian Armed Forces of the Kyrgyz Republic Storm Shadow with a range of over 300 km
          most likely they have already been received for the Syrian Bastion anti-ship missiles Onyx anti-ship missiles with a range of under 600 km
          brace yourself sailor - AUG US Navy
      2. tlauicol
        tlauicol 9 October 2023 04: 44
        +1
        Quote: Arzoo
        How Bastions are needed there. Oh how needed. And a couple of MIGs with daggers.

        Shall we follow the Soviet path from Ukraine and supply weapons to the scum?
      3. tlauicol
        tlauicol 9 October 2023 04: 45
        0
        Quote: Arzoo
        How Bastions are needed there. Oh how needed. And a couple of MIGs with daggers.

        Shall we follow the path of the rogues from Ukraine and supply weapons to... them?
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 9 October 2023 11: 15
          0
          Quote: Tlauicol
          Shall we follow the path of the rogues from Ukraine and supply weapons to... them?

          no, under..kam, traditionally, weapons are supplied by the United States. We will not supply weapons to Israel.
    3. Berserk23
      Berserk23 8 October 2023 21: 56
      +6
      Galkin and Chubais are already there and Makarevich is on the way...The Motherland must be saved
      1. Arkadich
        Arkadich 8 October 2023 22: 17
        +9
        Makarevich is coming...

        Makarevich is already on his way out. Flew to London. wink
        1. Sebenza
          Sebenza 8 October 2023 23: 25
          +2
          if you want to live here, then curb your agility. Boris Borisych, where are you?
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        3. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 9 October 2023 00: 03
          +5
          Quote: Arkadich
          Makarevich is coming...

          Makarevich is already on his way out. Flew to London. wink


          Oh, these relocants and traitors distinguished themselves here and in relation to the new homeland; They ran like rats from a sinking ship.
          1. bayard
            bayard 9 October 2023 03: 54
            +5
            Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Oh, these relocants and traitors distinguished themselves here and in relation to the new homeland; They ran like rats from a sinking ship.

            You don't understand, this... It's just that the patriots of the new homeland... got scared. But they are Great Patriots, Peskov will not let you lie.
      2. point
        point 9 October 2023 00: 00
        -3
        You were given clowns when the enemies were directly in Moscow. Is Nabiullina at home or on a bunk? Start thinking about what directly concerns you, and not somewhere else. However, there are no fools moving their bags, everything is suddenly “about the Jewish question.” The Russian Federation is even creeping onto a war footing in a liberal manner, “smoking the Kuril Islands forward.”
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    4. Pavel_Sveshnikov
      Pavel_Sveshnikov 8 October 2023 22: 04
      +1
      Eh, I should throw hypersound to some rebels so that they can check how invulnerable the aircraft carrier is. This would be payment in the same coin to the States.
      1. BIABIA
        BIABIA 8 October 2023 22: 46
        +3
        We are sure that Iran is simply supplying us with martyrs bully
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 8 October 2023 23: 53
          +2
          It was the United States that started the big war in the Middle East. Isn’t this conflict a hidden pretext for the Stars and Stripes to bring more troops into the region, which will also pose a threat to our military bases in Syria?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 9 October 2023 00: 19
            +3
            Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
            It was the United States that started the big war in the Middle East

            The United States does not need the Arab-Israeli war.
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 9 October 2023 01: 12
              +2
              Throughout the XNUMXth century, and now the XNUMXst century, the United States, by unleashing wars, has ensured not only economic prosperity, but also rises to the top of the world. But what a surprise it will be for her when it turns out that there are no suitable regions on the planet capable of satisfying her appetites.
            2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 9 October 2023 01: 34
              +1
              If anything, I didn’t appreciate your comment now. The minus is not mine.
            3. orionvitt
              orionvitt 9 October 2023 01: 45
              +2
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              The United States does not need the Arab-Israeli war.

              The United States needs war everywhere and always. Except, of course, for your loved ones. Israel by Israel, and they also drag Europe (their main ally) into a war with Russia, exposing them without false embarrassment.
    5. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 8 October 2023 23: 07
      +4
      Quote: RipRap
      Oh, I wish I could send them anti-ship missiles, even the most outdated ones. "Moscow" must be avenged

      Just sending it is not enough, especially something old - they will knock it down and rejoice. Now, if you could sink an aircraft carrier, seriously damaging it... For example, with a mine that “lost its anchor.” Then there would be a resonance, especially from the incident in the Mediterranean. But alas.... Faberge are not made of iron for such an operation.
      1. alystan
        alystan 9 October 2023 02: 03
        0
        There, even without any Faberge, everything is unfolding not in favor of Israel.

        Armed clashes between Palestinians and Israelis began in Jerusalem itself. Palestinians occupied two buildings in Jerusalem near the Qalandiya Gate. Near the village of Qalandiya there is a Palestinian refugee camp of the same name, which Palestinian fighters plan to take control of and seriously replenish their personnel with manpower from among the refugees.

        In addition, Palestinian fighters linked up with their cells in Jercho in the West Bank.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 9 October 2023 04: 14
          0
          US authorities: we are sending an aircraft carrier group to the shores of Israel as a warning to countries wishing to intervene in the conflict

          How unexpected is all this... belay
    6. igork735
      igork735 9 October 2023 12: 16
      +1
      RipRap Yesterday, 21:44
      “Oh, I wish I could send them anti-ship missiles, even the most outdated ones. “Moscow” must be avenged.”

      The roll call of “visionaries and dreamers” has begun! And this is the most gentle and soft characteristic.
  2. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 8 October 2023 21: 46
    +7
    US authorities: we are sending an aircraft carrier group to the shores of Israel

    Heh! I wrote about this yesterday. but they didn’t believe me.
    1. Arzoo
      Arzoo 8 October 2023 21: 53
      +7
      Expected. Considering how the IDF has shown its effectiveness and continues to show it. request We need to somehow save the situation.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 8 October 2023 22: 40
        -7
        Quote: Arzoo
        Expected. Considering how the IDF has shown its effectiveness and continues to show it. request We need to somehow save the situation.

        Enjoy it
        https://twitter.com/BittonRosen/status/1711099905647976599?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1711099905647976599%7Ctwgr%5Ee71bf7bcaa179dcdc701f61f667db4a70f07f867%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwaroffline.org%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D45st%3D2340entry790032
        The army was not ready. Almost 600 women, old people and children were killed. Up to 100 soldiers died. Enjoy. But not for very long.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 8 October 2023 22: 47
          +18
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Almost 600 women, old people and children were killed.

          My condolences. Terrorism is a disgusting thing
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 8 October 2023 22: 49
            -12
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Almost 600 women, old people and children were killed.

            My condolences. Terrorism is a disgusting thing

            This is not terrorism. This is Pogrom and Massacre. Israel will never again be the same as it was before this war.
            1. point
              point 9 October 2023 00: 10
              +6
              Now there will be a short comment:
              come on!
              in order to change the vector of independent consciousness, ideas for society are needed, but where are the people who are able to express ideas for at least two different camps among the people? Okay, to hell with both - it’s difficult, but at least they don’t sell out immediately as soon as they are elected to the Knesset.
              I’m afraid we all underestimate the depth of the distortion of the attitude towards reality that we have achieved during our descent into liberalism.
            2. Igor Polovodov
              Igor Polovodov 9 October 2023 00: 31
              +1
              Iran could also have been different in relation to the Jews, but history, as we know, does not tolerate the subjunctive mood...
              1. Buchenland
                Buchenland 9 October 2023 00: 53
                +4
                so before the IRGC came to power, Israel had normal relations with Iran
            3. Joker62
              Joker62 9 October 2023 01: 21
              +2
              I'll tell you more, though in the words of Vladimir Zhirinovsky - "Israel has no future." So, rub your eyes and see the depth of the reasons for the contradiction between Israel and Palestine.
              Your government, including you, the common people, will again lose your state, and again, will become vagabonds of the World...
              1. Nikolay Ganapolsky
                Nikolay Ganapolsky 9 October 2023 20: 22
                -3
                As history has shown, there is no future for Zhirinovsky, who has been lying in a coffin for a year now. And Israel has already cleared its territory of raiders and has begun the complete annihilation of the Gaza Strip with carpet bombing and missile attacks. The abreks played with fire for a couple of days and finished the game.
            4. Revolver
              Revolver 9 October 2023 06: 00
              -1
              Now, unfortunately, you cannot avoid genocide. But for now you (Israel) still have a choice on which side of the genocide to be on, the victim or the predator. But you have to choose quickly, otherwise they will choose for you.
            5. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 9 October 2023 11: 27
              0
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Israel will never again be the same as it was before this war.

              do you mean like this?
              https://t.me/c/1825901161/11423
              Aron, don’t the Jews have a saying “what goes around comes around”?
          2. alystan
            alystan 9 October 2023 00: 53
            +5
            You speak disgustingly. And in the direction of others, don’t you consider this terrorism? And you, of course, are not aware of what Israel is doing to the Palestinian civilian population? What a unique perception of justice and kindness you have.
        2. BIABIA
          BIABIA 8 October 2023 22: 49
          +17
          Enjoy

          Nothing to enjoy. You will kill a hundred times more women, old people and children. I already wrote about this here. Just carpet bombing. And the world community will eat it up.
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            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 8 October 2023 23: 18
              +10
              The ears of the United States are sticking out behind this conflict, because the war allows the Stars and Stripes to enrich themselves. Stop being a puppet in the hands of Uncle Sam - cut your ropes before it’s too late.
            2. lynnot
              lynnot 8 October 2023 23: 53
              +10
              For too long, the Israelis considered themselves God's chosen people, with the right to dictate their terms to their neighbors.
              1. Vita vko
                Vita vko 9 October 2023 02: 39
                +2
                Quote: Lynnot
                For too long the Israelites considered themselves God's chosen people,

                God's chosen Jews have been sitting in the United States for a long time, heading financial pyramids and the Senate. Cannon fodder lives in Israel, the same as in Ukraine. And the only purpose for which this meat should die is the ability of the US Federal Reserve to continue printing dollars and increasing the national debt.
            3. Sebenza
              Sebenza 9 October 2023 00: 00
              +6
              And they sent the money, that-
              If only we had one like this. Same to you.
            4. Skyscream
              Skyscream 9 October 2023 00: 43
              +6
              You have already highlighted a lot of things THIS way. For example Beirut. Not enough for you?
            5. alystan
              alystan 9 October 2023 00: 54
              +3
              Aren’t you afraid that your wish will come true, but only against you?
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 8 October 2023 23: 59
            +18
            Yes, as always, they will watch selectively.
        3. Azerbaijan2023
          Azerbaijan2023 8 October 2023 22: 55
          -30
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          But not for very long.

          I really hope you punish those who killed your citizens (women, old people and children). Our faith does not teach this. Therefore, they have nothing in common with my religion. I watch how you punish them! The level is immediately felt. But I have a question. What will Israel’s actions be against the customer, or at least against someone who has a significant share in this attack...I’m talking about Iran. It is necessary to treat the disease itself and not its sores. I believe that Lebanon and Gaza should be part of Israel. I watched a program about Lebanon, the economy is zero, debauchery, terrorists.... in general, it’s a mess there. And Gaza as well. Many people will downvote me, but no one will understand the meaning of my question. In Karabakh after the war, we did not expel the Armenians, they left on their own. Everyone understands that they cannot live on our land with a clear conscience. To be honest, I have gained respect for those who left. This means they still have a conscience! Also your question. There will be either Palestinians or you. Otherwise, this war will not end. Someone must either leave or occupy. There is no other option.
          Azerbaijan is for you! The photo shows the jubilation of Armenians and support for Palestinians.
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 8 October 2023 23: 21
            +10
            What makes you think that Iran is involved here???
          2. point
            point 9 October 2023 00: 28
            +5
            If this were Iran, the north of Israel would already be on fire. Hamas struck with the understanding that there would be very little time behind the fence, and then survival in the jungle underground would begin. The shelling ended, having served its purpose, but it is no longer there. So why didn’t Hezbollah take up the baton? It seemed like a very good time. I will answer myself: because it happened suddenly even for them.
            The context of international events is very tense; you should look at what happened two weeks and a month ago. If you look at Drobnitsky’s Zen blog, you will hear the words Iran, Netanyahu, Biden and Saudi Arabia in unexpected combinations, who is with whom and against whom. And pay attention when listening to his commentary on judicial reform.
            I don't have the facts, but one former metropolis always comes to mind when something is wrong in its former colonies from the Mediterranean to the Indian, even in South China. Because the last of the masters of intrigue and style remained there. And these masters desperately need to fit into the future through old connections in BV.
          3. alystan
            alystan 9 October 2023 00: 56
            +5
            Azerbaijan showed its real insides and face.
          4. Lelechka
            Lelechka 9 October 2023 00: 56
            +8
            Was it not in Azerbaijan, 4 years ago, that they shouted that Israel was genocideing Palestine and that they were occupiers? How quickly everything changes and is forgotten
            1. sir.jonn
              sir.jonn 9 October 2023 03: 59
              +1
              Quote from: Lelechka
              Was it not in Azerbaijan, 4 years ago, that they shouted that Israel was genocideing Palestine and that they were occupiers? How quickly everything changes and is forgotten

              In Azerbaijan, as elsewhere, some are for, some are against.
            2. tlauicol
              tlauicol 9 October 2023 05: 17
              +3
              Quote from: Lelechka
              Was it not in Azerbaijan, 4 years ago, that they shouted that Israel was genocideing Palestine and that they were occupiers? How quickly everything changes and is forgotten

              This is one person's personal opinion.
              But here’s an objective one: Wasn’t it Hamas who fought against our friend Assad together with Al Qaeda 4 years ago? Wasn't it Hamas who massacred our Iranian friends from Hezbollah in Gaza? How can you even deal with this dirt?
              1. Vita vko
                Vita vko 9 October 2023 12: 20
                0
                Quote: Tlauicol
                Did Hamas fight against our friend Assad together with Al Qaeda 4 years ago?

                They also found ideological fighters for me! Don't tell my slippers. Whoever pays them for it is the terrorists who will fight, those same mercenaries under Islamic flags. They have now been given a marque patent with money and weapons for the war with Israel. I doubt that they have enough resources for a protracted conflict until victory. Rather, Hamas’s task was to create a powerful provocation, and ordinary Palestinians will bear the consequences under the empty cries of the Islamic media.
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          6. Revolver
            Revolver 9 October 2023 06: 05
            -2
            Quote: Azerbaijan2023
            I believe that Lebanon and Gaza should be part of Israel.

            Only if the Arabs leave there. Or they will leave.
        4. Eugene Zaboy
          Eugene Zaboy 8 October 2023 22: 55
          +3
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          The army was not ready. Almost 600 women, old people and children were killed. Up to 100 soldiers died. Enjoy. But not for very long.


          How could this happen? Do you have any thoughts on this matter? There is 24/7 monitoring along the entire border and suddenly military bases and cities are captured, the impossible happens, with virtually no resistance.

          Here a girl (former military personnel) spoke out:

          [media=https://t.me/stranaua/126107]
        5. Beck69
          Beck69 8 October 2023 23: 01
          +14
          How touchy you are. Russians have been killed in Donbass for 9 years now. The weapons of your allies. Now they started killing you with the same weapons. For the life of me I will not believe that Merkava 4 was not burned with a Javelin, and the Apaches were not shot with Stingers. The world has changed a long time ago, and you are all trying to fight the Soviet Union and its satellites.
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 9 October 2023 05: 22
            -5
            Quote: Beck69
            How touchy you are. Russians have been killed in Donbass for 9 years now. The weapons of your allies. Now they started killing you with the same weapons. For the life of me I will not believe that Merkava 4 was not burned with a Javelin, and the Apaches were not shot with Stingers. The world has changed a long time ago, and you are all trying to fight the Soviet Union and its satellites.

            Why stick this stupid sophistry everywhere? For what? In Donbass they killed Russians with Soviet and Russian weapons for 8 years - and? Did this worry you? No. Kalash and hail. What does this even have to do with it?
            The Jews, by the way, did not send a single cartridge to the Ukrainians, but we flooded them with the entire Middle East. And the bandits beat the people with Kalash, and not with javelins. And no one cares
        6. fif21
          fif21 8 October 2023 23: 10
          +12
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Enjoy it

          You don’t know Russian Aron well if you wrote this. They probably forgot how many Russian people were destroyed by the Nazis for harboring Jews, and how many were saved at the risk of their lives in the territories occupied by the Wehrmacht. hi
        7. Arzoo
          Arzoo 9 October 2023 00: 19
          +8
          Aron, I'm not a fascist to enjoy. I receive materials all day long about how your infantry works, how your artillery and tanks work. I want to say that you have big problems. You completely slept through the modern war. Personnel decisions are needed here, absolutely. Of course, the IDF will recover, in a couple of months they will draw conclusions and change command. But it’s absolutely not worth going into Gaza now; the losses will be gigantic.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 9 October 2023 06: 09
            -3
            Quote: Arzoo
            It’s absolutely not worth going to Gaza now

            It's definitely not worth climbing. But it’s quite possible to arrange a carpet bombing, and if the aircraft’s carrying capacity is sufficient, then bombard them with incendiaries and create a firestorm like in Dresden or Tokyo. And continue to bomb until their leaders themselves offer unconditional surrender.
          2. Nikolay Ganapolsky
            Nikolay Ganapolsky 9 October 2023 20: 31
            0
            So no one will go to Gaza. It will simply be bombed into the Stone Age. Netanyahu has already officially announced that her physical existence will soon be terminated. And whoever doesn’t hide, Israel is not to blame lol
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 9 October 2023 23: 29
              -1
              Quote: Nikolai Ganapolsky
              It will simply be bombed into the Stone Age. Netanyahu has already officially announced that her physical existence will soon be terminated. And whoever doesn’t hide, Israel is not to blame

              Do you think you should file a complaint against the site administration for inciting ethnic hatred?! smile
        8. Akim
          Akim 9 October 2023 06: 53
          +1
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          The army was not ready

          and why?
        9. opposite28
          opposite28 9 October 2023 12: 28
          0
          I hope the political leadership of Israel will cry at the funeral of its soldiers and civilians, there is no doubt. The fact that Israeli intelligence “slept through” the Palestinians’ planning of a full-scale attack is also somehow inappropriate. According to Stanislavsky: I don’t believe it!!! Some kind of feigned reaction from the official Israeli media and ostentatious sacrifices of the commanders of the Israeli Defense Forces. Against the backdrop of social unrest due to judicial reform, Israel needed a powerful shake-up and it received it in full. Looking at Netanyahu’s smug face, the new Doomsday was known in advance, and further social losses were calculated to strengthen the national idea of ​​​​the sons of Israel. As cruel as it may sound, it is a fact. Especially on Shabbat, it’s very symbolic...
      2. bayard
        bayard 8 October 2023 22: 52
        +1
        Quote: Arzoo
        We need to somehow save the situation.

        And how can we save her? Should Iran fit in? Does he need it? He still needs to rearm his army and change his aircraft fleet.
        China?
        Why, when suddenly all his opponents were so seriously puzzled? On the contrary, he should splash some kerasin so that they forget about Taiwan.
        Arabs?
        These are unlikely, but for the sake of “quiet solidarity” they can raise oil prices - they say things have become alarming in “our Palestines”.
        1. Arzoo
          Arzoo 9 October 2023 00: 21
          +2
          Americans need to save the situation. The IDF is showing phenomenal inefficiency. And in everything. From artillery to the work of infantry groups. They can be easily unwound in Gaza if Iran has brought enough weapons. But I think I did.
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 9 October 2023 05: 27
            +2
            Do the Palestinians know how to fight effectively? Soon they will howl and they will run to the UN to complain. No, well, first they will heroically use the Beslan tactics, of course. And then they rush to Egypt, the Arabs will be happy! They will also go to the UN - return them back to the Sector
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 8 October 2023 22: 32
      -1
      I wrote about this yesterday
      - conclusion: everything needs to be done in a timely manner! wink
      In general, it’s strange that environmentalists are silent: after all, if something happened to this AUG, the Mediterranean Sea in some places could become much shallower! Yes
  3. Magic archer
    Magic archer 8 October 2023 21: 49
    +4
    And if the same Saudis openly support Hamas, will the mattresses use weapons against them??? Very curious though what
    1. Arzoo
      Arzoo 8 October 2023 21: 58
      +4
      No. They will put pressure on Egypt and Turkey. So that they block logistics and assistance. If they miss enough drones and weapons. There are hundreds of combat losses, as the Jews plan (no, really, today someone told me such a figure in a blue eye lol ), will seem to them like oriental fairy tales minus two zeros.
      1. bayard
        bayard 8 October 2023 23: 06
        +1
        Quote: Arzoo
        No. They will put pressure on Egypt and Turkey. So that they block logistics and assistance.

        Ukraine has already supplied Palestine with everything necessary for war - English roof fighters, MANPADS, grenade launchers, and NATO rifles.
        Gaza will be demolished and the enclave liquidated - Israel now has enough reasons for this... but what will begin after this genocide on the "Arab Street" of the abstaining fraternal countries... only Ahura-Mazda knows.
        The region is definitely being blown up and such events will not take place without radical consequences.
        And in certain circles there was such a plan - a plan to close the Israel project. Not the best plan. Because for the sake of another project - “Jerusalem on the Dnieper”.
    2. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 8 October 2023 22: 02
      +6
      Quote: Magic Archer
      What if the same Saudis openly support Hamas?
      request
      The issue of countering Iran if it decides to intervene in the conflict is also being considered.
      ... belay
      The missile range of the US Navy cruiser is sufficient to reach Iranian military bases and ports.
      recourse
      interesting, but the ammunition of anti-aircraft guided missiles will then be enough to fight off a massive attack (preferably synchronized!!) on this AUG from UAVs, sea drones, and operational tactical missiles of the Iranians...?!!!
      what
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 October 2023 21: 52
    +6
    A wise decision when no one is going to intervene directly in the conflict. And there will be a stink: We scared everyone!
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 8 October 2023 21: 54
      -3
      dk who is the enemy of the USA and NATO??????? who will fit in?
      1. Simple
        Simple 8 October 2023 22: 21
        +5
        And no one needs to “fit in.”

        This century will be the century of hybrid wars and supporters of the conflict may not be found.
        "It sank itself."
  5. Cannon
    Cannon 8 October 2023 21: 52
    -5
    On board the aircraft carrier there are up to hundreds of combat aircraft, including carrier-based versions of the 5th generation F-35 fighters. +++ How many “DAGGERS” are needed for these airplanes to settle on the bottom of the sea? Is two enough?
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 8 October 2023 21: 57
      -3
      dreams dreams current usa duty to think they won’t hit the country who will sink them an aircraft carrier although who knows, someone needs to try)))))))
    2. Fedor M
      Fedor M 8 October 2023 22: 01
      +4
      Two onyxes are enough to eliminate Avik from the game... Or better yet, three
      1. al3x
        al3x 8 October 2023 22: 20
        +3
        Enough may be enough, but the AUG also includes a cruiser with destroyers that have powerful air defense/missile defense, which you need to break through. By itself, the aircraft carrier is practically defenseless.
        1. Fedor M
          Fedor M 8 October 2023 22: 42
          +2
          Isn’t this rocket designed specifically for this???
          1. al3x
            al3x 8 October 2023 22: 46
            +6
            The effectiveness has not been tested in practice. As yours shows, all that glitters is not gold. This applies to both our systems and enemy systems. Today we can only believe and hope that the designers and developers do not eat their bread in vain.
            1. fif21
              fif21 8 October 2023 23: 16
              +2
              Quote: al3x
              The effectiveness has not been tested in practice.

              The United States supplies Ukraine with a lot of weapons. What prevents Russia from looking at the effectiveness of weapons developed against AUG? hi
        2. kventinasd
          kventinasd 8 October 2023 22: 57
          -1
          Quote: al3x
          having powerful air defense/missile defense that you need to break through.

          Western air defense helped the Ukrainians a lot against at least the Onyxes, but I won’t say anything about the Daggers that destroyed the vaunted Patriots. Even the Ukrainian herald Ignat admitted that they have no effective countermeasures against Russian anti-ship missiles.
          1. al3x
            al3x 8 October 2023 23: 05
            +4
            A stationary, motionless target on land and one maneuvering at sea are still different. Well, to be fair, the XXXLs did not have the latest generation of air defense/missile defense systems. I am not at all belittling the capabilities of our systems, but we also do not know 100% the capabilities of the enemy. A healthy dose of skepticism and nothing more.
            1. kventinasd
              kventinasd 8 October 2023 23: 38
              -1
              Quote: al3x
              A stationary, motionless target on land and one maneuvering at sea are still different.

              And how fast can an aircraft carrier maneuver? For Onyxes and X31m2, this vessel is the most delicious target.
      2. gurza2007
        gurza2007 8 October 2023 23: 08
        -1
        Best of all at once... Clap, and no problem...
        And the unknown ones are to blame, even if it’s Ukraine!))) This is their revenge for the non-supply of weapons...
        Oh, and she flew in like crazy...
        And for now, too, both real and potential allies are being cut off from us - Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey with Israel, Azerbaijan and even offended Armenia will be used against us...
        After all, Israeli tanks are in Ukraine...
        A global agreement to tear apart Russia...
        Apparently, it’s global again for us... But there’s no stopping in Berlin... Only in Washington, and of course London is a must...
        Although you can arrange this now, before they come - everyone will immediately clap - both those and those...
        The longer you wait, the more victims...
    3. KCA
      KCA 8 October 2023 23: 57
      -4
      The combat radius of the F-35 is 865 km without refueling and PTB, the combat radius of the MIG-31 is 720 km, the launch range of "Daggers" is up to 3000 km, the maximum flight speed is 14 800 km/h, if the F-35 does not stand in front of the bump stop, equipped and with running engines they won’t even have time to take off, and the MIG-31 will already be landing
    4. Buchenland
      Buchenland 9 October 2023 00: 55
      0
      Where to launch them in those parts?
      I know, I know, comment text
      1. KCA
        KCA 9 October 2023 06: 16
        0
        Is Khmeimim really that far from the place where the AUG will anchor? Then there are rumors that the TU-22M3 and TU-160 are also being made to carry Daggers, I don’t know if M3M or 160M are required or the modification is not so complicated
  6. opuonmed
    opuonmed 8 October 2023 21: 52
    +3
    will help Israel demolish everything and everyone from the air and more)
  7. Khibiny Plastun
    Khibiny Plastun 8 October 2023 21: 54
    +10
    For a big ship, a big rocket. We seem to have staged "Bastions" in Syria. And Iran may also have delivered something serious to Lebanon. It would be a great video with a sinking Avik. And so, this is not our war. Let's look from the outside.
    1. ave0123
      ave0123 8 October 2023 21: 59
      +7
      and who is stopping you from handing over a couple of dozen Onyxes to Hezbollah, well, as a response to future aggression against Lebanon and Hezbollah?

      At the same time, check the American Aegis for lice.

      PS well, what is the “response” for Highmars and Atacms?
      1. Simple
        Simple 8 October 2023 22: 05
        +5
        Unmanned watercraft.

        With a very strong desire from serious actors
        can clear an aircraft carrier order.
      2. Khibiny Plastun
        Khibiny Plastun 8 October 2023 22: 10
        +3
        It may well be that there is “something like that” there. Hidden from strangers.
        In general, we'll see.
      3. Beck69
        Beck69 8 October 2023 23: 10
        +1
        Are you serious about Onyxes? This is absolutely not AKM, people need to be taught and trained there. And you can overload the AUG’s air defense with geraniums. Well, 250, to hell with 300 air defense missiles in the order, the Phalanxes will work out, they will repulse the combined attack anyway, maybe they will sink small things, but the aircraft carrier will not. It needs to be covered with geraniums, like a grave.
    2. Fedor M
      Fedor M 8 October 2023 22: 43
      +1
      Bastions are good, but the Russian Federation will not fit in and they know it
  8. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 8 October 2023 21: 56
    +3
    Aircraft carriers will no longer save the authority of the United States. America is rotten. Helpless as its president. Let them pray to God that Hamas won’t drown them with some hundred-dollar drone.
    1. Ghost1
      Ghost1 8 October 2023 22: 03
      +1
      And for some reason we are waiting for elections in the United States that could change the situation in Ukraine.
      1. Expert
        Expert 8 October 2023 22: 55
        +2
        And who is "waiting"? Another meaningless chatter on the zombie box, no one else has ever been interested in this.
  9. pharmacist
    pharmacist 8 October 2023 22: 01
    +4
    Well, if the Americans get involved in this matter, expect trouble. It seems that the statements that were often heard yesterday that Israel will quickly get down to business and crush the Palestinians are not at all justified.
    1. al3x
      al3x 8 October 2023 22: 10
      +6
      Well, Americans, by default, are the plug in every barrel. Not surprising at all.
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  11. Factor
    Factor 8 October 2023 22: 02
    +1
    Famous trick. They took place in North Korea. They came and sailed away with nothing.

    If Hezbollah enters the fray, the devil will break off his hooves, the knot of joint Shiite and Sunni radicalism will sweep away any arrangement of pieces on the chessboard of Middle Eastern geopolitics.
    Not a single sage there will find cause-and-effect relationships in the escalation of violence.

    There will be the most previously impossible coalitions and alliances, mediators and supporters of opposing camps.

    In any case, the Yankees will be out of the game here, and Biden’s political corpse will flutter in the waters of the Potomac. Afghanistan, Ukraine, and now Israel are under the onslaught of mortal enemies.

    However, he had a “successful” presidential season. It will also lead to a civil war in the United States.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 8 October 2023 22: 39
      +1
      Quote: Factor
      If Hezbollah enters the fray, the devil will break off its hooves

      Ay ah ah... Zen with Historical Thimbles, would you like to plagiarize, my dear? https://dzen.ru/a/ZSIytN_fa2MvgNpL
    2. Beck69
      Beck69 8 October 2023 23: 16
      0
      If only Hezbollon and Khamasyatniks did not fight among themselves. There is such a sin behind them.
  12. Michael
    Michael 8 October 2023 22: 02
    0
    Gerald Ford.
    They finished off the sufferer and immediately went on a military campaign. And while he was still at the dock, he felt tired.
  13. Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 October 2023 22: 06
    +2
    I thought something was missing. It turns out there are mattresses with their tubs.
    1. Asad
      Asad 9 October 2023 03: 18
      +2
      Pelvis? If striped ones have pelvises, then what kind of super ships do we have?
  14. bear cub
    bear cub 8 October 2023 22: 11
    +3
    A very predictable, naughty child who hits other children when he can't cope also calls on his older brother for help. I wonder if America will openly join in the bombing of residential buildings?
    1. Chem1st
      Chem1st 8 October 2023 22: 25
      +7
      Quote: Little Bear
      I wonder if America will openly join in the bombing of residential buildings?

      Yes, definitely, don’t go to grandma’s. This is exactly what mattress covers have no equal in.
  15. Alexey G
    Alexey G 8 October 2023 22: 11
    +9
    An aircraft carrier group consists of a number of ships, including, in fact, an aircraft carrier. This is Gerald Ford. In addition to it, the US Navy sent (fingers crossed) the destroyers Nitze, Farragut, Traxtan, Dilbert Black, as well as the missile cruiser Leyte Gulf to the shores of Israel.

    Isn't it time to try Ukrainian surface drones on these ships? And then N-lavas with Javelins are, of course, cool according to Merkava, but surface drones are even more fun...
    And reconnaissance should be carried out by our aviation...
    Mirror, so to speak.
  16. Ivan_7
    Ivan_7 8 October 2023 22: 18
    -3
    Judging by the video from the cart there and without the US AUG, Gaza is being burned with a hot iron
  17. opposite28
    opposite28 8 October 2023 22: 20
    +3
    Washington decided to demonstrate support for Israel by sending an aircraft carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean. The US authorities also explain the dispatch of their AUG as (quote) “a warning to those countries that want to intervene in the Middle East conflict.
    So, in fact, for the sake of the Middle East conflict, the AUG is relocating, and not for peace. A major conflict requires a reason that the Palestinians themselves provided with the tacit permission of the political leadership of Mr. Israel. When the administration of the White House changes, the party does not stop... request
    1. gurza2007
      gurza2007 8 October 2023 23: 02
      -3
      They have everything written down in advance, and the change of parties and rulers is like a party of a deck of cards from which they have already taken all the trump cards...
      Now our task, and along the way with China, is to prevent them from developing there...
  18. bubalik
    bubalik 8 October 2023 22: 21
    +3
    a warning to those countries that want to intervene in the Middle East conflict


  19. Aken
    Aken 8 October 2023 22: 22
    -4
    The Taliban are scared. He has already refused.
  20. Vadim S
    Vadim S 8 October 2023 22: 23
    +4
    Of course, of course, the Jewish lobby in the states is the strongest after Israel itself, if only they had not stood up for their historical homeland. Financial tycoons with roots from there immediately sent an armada on duty, the Bilderberg Club does not abandon its own!
  21. Fangaro
    Fangaro 8 October 2023 22: 26
    0
    US authorities: we are sending an aircraft carrier group to the shores of Israel as a warning to countries wishing to intervene in the conflict

    The US carrier group sent to the shores of Israel represents precisely the country that wants to intervene in the conflict.
    But, unfortunately, one that no one can drive out of the Mediterranean with a filthy broom without risk to everyone living on Earth.
  22. guest
    guest 8 October 2023 22: 26
    +5
    Ukrainian mines have already been spotted sailing through the Bosphorus, maybe these American ships will stumble upon such a mine.
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  24. Sasha Koblov
    Sasha Koblov 8 October 2023 22: 29
    +6
    It's time to drown before it arrives. And who attacked is a mystery. Pirates who received help from friends... Since it's such a fight, there's no time for etiquette.
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    1. gurza2007
      gurza2007 8 October 2023 22: 58
      -3
      Considering the fact that Israeli tanks are now in Ukraine, it’s unlikely...
      Moreover, Iraq and Syria are now enemies of Israel, and besides, he chose the hegemon as his patron...
      But ...
      along the way, this is just now being read... now Turkey will work for us with the Americans, Azerbaijan and even offended Armenia...
      And coming out in defense of Israel is just an excuse...
      They are now trying to cut off Iraq and Syria from us...
      Entering our underbelly
      1. AUL
        AUL 9 October 2023 06: 41
        -1

        Quote: gurza2007
        Considering the fact that Israeli tanks are now in Ukraine, it’s unlikely...

        Glitches?
  26. Cronus
    Cronus 8 October 2023 22: 35
    +3
    It’s interesting against this aircraft carrier group, a dozen naval drones that are used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, what effect will it have, will they be able to at least get closer or break through, purely in theory, because if even one strikes, the era of large ships will be in question.
    1. km-21
      km-21 8 October 2023 23: 10
      -1
      To control a marine drone you need satellite Internet such as Starlink or OneWeb.
      Russia doesn’t have its own, and Elon Musk is unlikely to agree to help sink an American aircraft carrier.
  27. Al manah
    Al manah 8 October 2023 22: 41
    0
    Countries that “want to intervene in the conflict” have shit their pants in advance, because they have SVO in trousers. Or will we send a virtual AUG? There is no real one anyway, we don’t need aircraft carriers, we are already powerful to the very tonsils - the sofa bastards explain this to us well, I suppose they are paid quite a bit for this nonsense.
  28. Babermetis
    Babermetis 8 October 2023 22: 41
    -1
    They arrive to protect Nobleenergy's capital investments in gas development at the Leviatan field from attacks by Lebanese Hezbollah.
  29. Horon
    Horon 8 October 2023 22: 42
    +4
    I wonder if the Arabs will use the Ukrainian experience with sea and air drones? The West was so eager to use these “toys” to trample the Russian army into the mud and cause damage to Russia that it would be surprising if these same methods do not now become the main ones for their opponents. feel
  30. km-21
    km-21 8 October 2023 22: 46
    -2
    An opportune moment is coming for the reunification of Ukraine with Russia and Taiwan with China.
  31. ZovSailor
    ZovSailor 8 October 2023 22: 52
    -5
    TASS is authorized to declare, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs expresses the most recent
    concern about provocative attacks against sovereignty
    and democracies of the states of the Middle East.
    The Ministry of Defense warns of the temporary closure of the maritime border region in the eastern
    square of the Mediterranean Sea with a diameter of 600 X 600 km to conduct
    search work by research vessels of the Navy and firing training;
    closure of the district from the moment of announcement and publication!
    The Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation warn about the danger of falling petrels due to
    adverse weather forecast in the Mediterranean region with coordinates
    25 deg 36 min north, 19 deg 41 min east long.
    The conclusions are up to you and us.
    I have the honor.
    1. alystan
      alystan 9 October 2023 01: 25
      0
      The conclusions are up to you and us.

      For whom and by whom? Who do you represent, open up?
  32. Brother Geographer
    Brother Geographer 8 October 2023 22: 55
    -1
    Killing two birds with one stone. Firstly, another war with the goal of squeezing out Iran and punishing the Saudis, and secondly, trying to squeeze out the Russian base of Tartu, or simply block
  33. km-21
    km-21 8 October 2023 22: 56
    0
    US authorities: we are sending an aircraft carrier group to the shores of Israel as a warning to countries wishing to intervene in the conflict

    In such cases, aircraft carriers usually break down along the way and go for repairs.
  34. gurza2007
    gurza2007 8 October 2023 22: 56
    -9
    along the way, this is just now being read... now Turkey will work for us with the Americans, Azerbaijan and even offended Armenia...
    And coming out in defense of Israel is just an excuse...
    They are now trying to cut off Iraq and Syria from us...
    Entering our underbelly
    1. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 9 October 2023 01: 11
      +1
      Quote: gurza2007
      Entering our underbelly
      belay
      entry into the underbelly was back in 1989-1993...
      overslept... wink
  35. Reader_lover
    Reader_lover 8 October 2023 22: 57
    +1
    It's funny to read the heaters. We must first learn how to sink the rubber boats that regularly sail to Crimea and cross the Dnieper.
    1. lukash66
      lukash66 9 October 2023 11: 41
      -1
      And you definitely need to hit the rubber boat with onyx. Aren't you funny yourself? How long ago have you gone for crucian carp with an elastic band?))))
  36. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 8 October 2023 22: 59
    +8
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Arzoo
    Expected. Considering how the IDF has shown its effectiveness and continues to show it. request We need to somehow save the situation.

    Enjoy it
    https://twitter.com/BittonRosen/status/1711099905647976599?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1711099905647976599%7Ctwgr%5Ee71bf7bcaa179dcdc701f61f667db4a70f07f867%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwaroffline.org%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D45st%3D2340entry790032
    The army was not ready. Almost 600 women, old people and children were killed. Up to 100 soldiers died. Enjoy. But not for very long.

    My condolences: the murder of women and children is unacceptable, in Donetsk there is the Avenue of Angels, there the children killed by your allies by the Ukrainian Nazis sleep in eternal sleep, but you thought that this was in the order of things.
  37. BIABIA
    BIABIA 8 October 2023 23: 05
    +9
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: BIABIA
    Enjoy

    Nothing to enjoy. You will kill a hundred times more women, old people and children. I already wrote about this here. Just carpet bombing. And the world community will eat it up.

    I would like to see Gaza like this.

    How can we not see Tel Aviv like this...
  38. ZovSailor
    ZovSailor 8 October 2023 23: 07
    -7
    Wow gentlemen!
    Representatives of the Navy group are participating in the negotiations
    and a group of admirals of the United 6th Fleet of the USSR.
    During the negotiations, the parties came to a mutual agreement
    conclude a long-term agreement:
    Yes sir, do you want Zirconium in sealed or printed form?
    What about the Protocol of Negotiations?
    I understand everything, sir, our side agrees to give
    more Onyxes and sign guaranteed technical service
    AUG for a period of five years.
    Yes, I completely forgot, sir, in this booklet you can
    view the characteristics
    Petrel for future negotiations!
    I don’t understand, Comrade Boshirov - well, it’s easy to fix, sir!
    Until our future meeting in the world's oceans, Comrade Boshirov.
    Yes, see you if you're lucky, sir!
    I have the honor.
    1. alystan
      alystan 9 October 2023 01: 21
      0
      There are no gentlemen here, in your understanding of the word.
  39. Rustic i ......
    Rustic i ...... 8 October 2023 23: 13
    -1
    "US authorities: we are sending an aircraft carrier group to the shores of Israel" -
    - So they’ll run away as soon as it’s hot.
  40. Alexander Shumeiko
    Alexander Shumeiko 8 October 2023 23: 17
    0
    And if it’s not a country). Interestingly, the Ukrainians sold a couple of unmanned boats to the Arabs. So what?) Business, nothing personal). The worse the English NLAV or Ovish Javelins).. They say it’s normal for the Merkava). So it is here. It’s interesting to look for someone “to blame”; if something goes wrong, they’ll suddenly lead you to the Pentagon).
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 9 October 2023 11: 42
      0
      Quote: Alexander Shumeiko
      It’s interesting to look for someone “to blame”; if something goes wrong, they’ll suddenly lead you to the Pentagon).

      first rule of investigation! during the investigation, do not expose yourself. wassat
  41. ZovSailor
    ZovSailor 8 October 2023 23: 26
    -3
    Uv. Arzoo!
    Quote: Arzoo
    How Bastions are needed there. Oh how needed. And a couple of MIGs with daggers.

    Representatives of the Ministry of Defense prepare a request form for sending logistics
    to the zone of interests of the Russian Federation on the basis of reasonable proposals;
    We guarantee that your application will be taken into account.
    I have the honor.
  42. ZovSailor
    ZovSailor 8 October 2023 23: 33
    -2
    uv Arzoo
    quote=Arzoo]How Bastions are needed there. Oh how needed. And a couple of MIGs with daggers.[/quote]
    Representatives of the Ministry of Defense form a requisition list for the supply of equipment to
    zone of interests of the Russian Federation.
    We guarantee that your proposal will be considered and taken into account during the
    tender.
    I have the honor.
  43. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 8 October 2023 23: 37
    -3
    author, there is no F-35 on board the Ford))) there are “hornets” that entered service around the time of the Yom Kippur War))) what we see is simply called show-offs for suckers)))
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 9 October 2023 01: 03
      +4
      Quote: TermNachTER
      author, there is no F-35 on board the Ford)))

      Where have you been?
      Quote: TermNachTER
      there are "hornets" that entered service around the time of the Yom Kippur War)))

      What, there weren’t even any supers? Which have been in operation since 2000?
  44. Kelevra
    Kelevra 8 October 2023 23: 44
    -2
    An American aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean is a direct threat to Russia.
    There is an opportunity to test one of our underwater drones.
    1. Alexander Shumeiko
      Alexander Shumeiko 8 October 2023 23: 48
      0
      Fires and floods sometimes occur on aircraft carriers, as on other ships. And it will take a long time to be repaired).
    2. Skyscream
      Skyscream 9 October 2023 01: 27
      0
      An American aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean is a direct threat to people prone to enuresis. For Gaza - yes, lethal, but for a serious strategic operation... very so-so.
  45. Two
    Two 9 October 2023 00: 03
    -1
    They will simply increase the number of combat aircraft, I think US pilots will carry out strikes, air supremacy will be with Israel, and this will be a complete victory and they will destroy everything there.
  46. Alexey Lobanov
    Alexey Lobanov 9 October 2023 00: 08
    0
    The "Golden Billion" has proven its humanity to the whole world. Breivik killed “only” 77 Muslims, though only one... A thousand Hamas militants are far from him, weaklings...
  47. garik77
    garik77 9 October 2023 00: 26
    -1
    What's the point? Well, they’ll send it and then what? Will they start bombing Hamas? Absolutely not. And then it’s all nothing more than window dressing
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 9 October 2023 00: 49
      +1
      Quote: garik77
      Will they start bombing Hamas? Absolutely not.

      And who will stop them?
    2. Nikolay Ganapolsky
      Nikolay Ganapolsky 9 October 2023 20: 37
      0
      They got away with blowing up Nord Stream 2. Do you think someone will dare to present something to them for the destruction of the Hamas tribe in blocks and flip-flops?
  48. Tim666
    Tim666 9 October 2023 00: 58
    -1
    Quote: alystan
    You speak disgustingly. And in the direction of others, don’t you consider this terrorism? And you, of course, are not aware of what Israel is doing to the Palestinian civilian population? What a unique perception of justice and kindness you have.

    And what is he doing - giving away grub and soap and dust for free?
  49. Tim666
    Tim666 9 October 2023 01: 04
    -2
    Quote: Reader
    It's funny to read the heaters. We must first learn how to sink the rubber boats that regularly sail to Crimea and cross the Dnieper.

    So it’s not interesting, armchair warriors don’t recognize targets smaller than an aircraft carrier, well, at worst a destroyer, but it’s better to iron out the entire AUG with Poseidons and Petrels at once.
    1. ave0123
      ave0123 9 October 2023 01: 16
      +1
      It would be interesting to transfer a dozen naval drones to Hezbollah, one of which has already been tested near Odessa in Zatoka, and test them on the Amer AUG. That would be a laugh, wouldn't it?
  50. evgen1221
    evgen1221 9 October 2023 03: 16
    +2
    And of course they won’t bother themselves with evidence of interference from Iran or anyone else.