Hamas troops have infiltrated the Magen community in southern Israel and are fighting with the Israeli army.

Palestinian Hamas militant groups are currently fighting Israeli troops in the southern Israeli community of Magen, which they attacked today. This is reported by a number of Arab sources.

Palestinian forces burst into the Magen community as suddenly as yesterday they invaded Israeli territory, after which they entered into battle with Israeli security forces. It has not yet been reported whether there were any deaths among Palestinians and Israelis.

The Israel Defense Forces still cannot liberate the territories in which Palestinian forces operate. Meanwhile, a number of Arab sources claim that Hamas has captured an Israeli army base in the Kisufim area.

In addition, the situation on other borders of Israel has worsened. In Jenin, on the West Bank, Palestinians burned down an Israeli military checkpoint. The northern areas bordering Lebanon were shelled from Lebanese territory with mortars. The pro-Iranian Hezbollah movement operating in Lebanon took responsibility for the attacks.

Now Israeli Air Force planes continue to carry out air strikes on residential buildings in the Gaza Strip. However, Hamas is not going to stop its military operation in Israel. The fate of Israeli military and civilians captured by Palestinian forces remains unclear. According to the first official data, which was announced earlier by the Israeli diplomatic mission in the United States, there are at least 100 people, but probably much more.

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[ZhEK-Vodogrey]

Are opiates brought to you from the Middle East? What inspires you?

[invisible_man]

Are there not enough anti-Semites, perhaps? One at one time even killed his own wife - “an agent of world Zionism.” She crept, you know, into the family.

[And Us Rat]

Palestinian forces invaded the Magen community as suddenly as they invaded Israeli territory yesterday

Firstly, these are terrorists, not “formations”.
Secondly, no one broke into anything, these are the remnants barricaded in one of the houses. Apparently they have hostages.

Hamas is not going to stop its military operation in Israel

It is no longer important what they are “going to do,” what is important is what they will do de facto: die.

[Gado]

I put my guano on all the branches, isn’t it a shame?

[Silver99]

It’s not clear that all Russian media call Hamas militants???? And for me, anyone who presses the trigger of an Israeli warplane into residential buildings is no less a criminal. This clash, no matter how local fans of Israel write, will not end quickly, even the Israelis themselves say that if the combat phase lasts more than 4-5 days, Israel will enter into a war of attrition and extermination of its own population, and the fire is only flaring up. The boiler bubbles for a long time, but sooner or later the lid comes off.

[Old_geologist]

I think it won’t end in 5 days anyway, it’s a really bad mess, no matter how other Arabs catch up. They are already causing a little concern, but they may seriously enter the war.

[paul3390]

All Russian media call Hamas militants

It’s just that in the modern world, double standards flourish. How does it usually happen? Let's say one country decides to bomb another, much weaker one. He fires a hundred thousand tomahawks and other nasty things at her, after which he says - in response, you can only do the same thing, fire the same missiles at us. Otherwise, you are like evil terrorists... Oh, don’t you have such missiles? Well, that’s all - you are counted as a defeat, give up. Because all other methods of struggle are blatantly illegal and are subject to immediate condemnation by all types of civilized humanity..

And almost everyone practices this. Which, to be honest, has always amazed me... It seems to me that war is war, and to win it, all means are suitable, especially if the survival of your country and your people is at stake. And on both sides. For example, in WWII no one thought of such nonsense as in modern times. There is an enemy - he must be destroyed, period. With the means that you have available.

And if you want to be honest, just like at a knight’s tournament, then come to it with equal weapons.. As it should be..

[And Us Rat]

Quote from Silver99

It’s not clear that all Russian media call Hamas militants????

Indeed, calling terrorists militants is hypocritical.

Quote from Silver99

the one who pulls the trigger on an Israeli warplane

No different from someone who pulls the trigger on a Russian combat aircraft. Hamas, like the Ukrainian Armed Forces, often hides behind a human shield of civilians. And no one has ever fought without the accompanying casualties.

[Cartographer]

Quote from Silver99

It’s not clear that all Russian media call Hamas militants???? And for me, anyone who presses the trigger of an Israeli warplane into residential buildings is no less a criminal. This clash, no matter how local fans of Israel write, will not end quickly, even the Israelis themselves say that if the combat phase lasts more than 4-5 days, Israel will enter into a war of attrition and extermination of its own population, and the fire is only flaring up. The boiler bubbles for a long time, but sooner or later the lid comes off.

Militant is the most neutral of definitions. Just as they didn’t call everything militants, nationalists, and fascists. No, well, why can Hamas be called partisans?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: SvetRAzumov

After all, it was not only under the communists that it was hard for Jews

and how hard it was for them?!!
What kind of passion is it to whine forever?

[hector]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: SvetRAzumov

After all, it was not only under the communists that it was hard for Jews

and how hard it was for them?!!
What kind of passion is it to whine forever?

This is the nature, but living constantly under the threat of being killed is so invigorating, not like the boring life in the USSR.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: SvetRAzumov

Due to events in the Middle East...

there are a lot of letters, but I didn’t see the meaning

[Yura]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: SvetRAzumov

Due to events in the Middle East...

there are a lot of letters, but I didn’t see the meaning

The meaning of the actions of the provocateur is to sow doubts in the minds, all the actions of the provocateur are always directed against the one whom he provokes, in his mouth even the truth carries a false message, the provocateur is a criminal in the mask of a caring sympathizer, he envies and hates the provoked.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Jura

The purpose of the provocateur’s actions is to sow doubt in the minds

What doubts are there?!!
a set of not very related words

[Yura]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

What doubts are there?!!
a set of not very related words

But someone still gave two pluses to that comment

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[Boycott]

After all, it was not only difficult for Jews under the communists, it was always difficult for them.

Uncle, are you crazy? Was it hard for Jews under the communists? I'm 63, born and raised in a small mining town in the bearish corner of Siberia. I worked all my life in the chemical industry in production, mainly according to the first list (explain?) Accordingly, a circle of friends and acquaintances. And do you know how many Jewish friends I have? Exactly 1 (in words: one) We suffered, damn it, near the blast furnaces and in the mines, the censorship words end, don’t blame me.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Of course, I didn’t live in a bear corner, and there were enough Jews among my friends, but I didn’t see anyone suffering, although I saw one example of anti-Semitism in my own class, one kid spread rot about another kid (a Jew), but the joke was that the first one could recognized as a Jew only by last name, but the second one didn’t even need to be asked about his nationality, despite his very Russian surname

[Cartographer]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Of course, I didn’t live in a bear corner, and there were enough Jews among my friends, but I didn’t see anyone suffering, although I saw one example of anti-Semitism in my own class, one kid spread rot about another kid (a Jew), but the joke was that the first one could recognized as a Jew only by last name, but the second one didn’t even need to be asked about his nationality, despite his very Russian surname

I don’t know who bullied whom, but at school they bully for many reasons. Hooligans bully nerds and jocks. Two of my graduates live in Israel, but they didn’t look like Jews. I don’t even remember who was bullied in the USSR for their nationality , no, of course, somewhere at the top there was some kind of hostility, but ordinary people didn’t need it. By the way, is it true that Andropov and D.A. Medvedev are Jews?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: BoyCat

Uncle, are you crazy?

Actually an aunt, judging by the name.

[maiman61]

Will Russia be drawn in? You are mad, are not you? We don’t care about their squabbles, I personally am not going to fight for anyone! They are STRANGER to us! And I doubt that anyone will want to fight for them!

[Cartographer]

Quote: maiman61

Will Russia be drawn in? You are mad, are not you? We don’t care about their squabbles, I personally am not going to fight for anyone! They are STRANGER to us! And I doubt that anyone will want to fight for them!

We would like to sort out our problems

[Thrifty]

These are not the Palestinians that were before! The level of military training is much higher, they fight stubbornly, and do not run away from the mere sight of a Jewish military man with a weapon in his hands! Now it will be much more difficult for the Israeli army to control the situation, because now well-matured people are fighting against them and not amateurs with weapons in hands.

[Silver99]

I agree, serious preparation is visible and radical goals are apparently set, there is more than enough money to purchase weapons, Qatar is behind the Hamas movement, Turkey also secretly supports it, it is worth mentioning separately about Hezbollah, they are an order of magnitude more armed and prepared than the same Hamas, if When the Mujahideen from Afghanistan arrive through Egypt, it will be very hot.

[Brother Ibota]

Mujahideen from Afghanistan are on the side of NATO. It was Iran that signed its own death sentence. Now you can forget about this country as well as Iraq

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Yeah... The Israeli army has relaxed... Not service, but continuous holidays and trips home, on weekends, to mom's for gefilte fish. And to catch up, the Israelis are fighting on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And the swastika “doesn’t bother them.” Well now let's see...

[Orange Bigg]

This is what Satanovsky says.

A separate story is Turkey’s role in the political “protection” of Palestinian radicals, primarily Hamas, which is exactly the same as the Muslim Brotherhood movement, like Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party. By the way, is it not through Turkey that arms supplies from Ukraine go to Hamas? The latter is an extremely interesting topic. The Israeli media, controlled by Ukrainian and fugitive Russian oligarchs, are now trying with all their might to spread the theme of blame for what is happening on Russia and Putin: they say, if it weren’t for our North Military District, there would be no arms smuggling from Ukraine to the Middle East. But according to the Shin Bet, Ukrainian migrants - Banderaites and their sympathizers, of whom there are tens of thousands in Israel, actively worked for Hamas as agents, filming border areas and transferring this information to Gaza. Again: Hamas militants are clearly not only well acquainted with the tactics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but also have relevant combat experience. It is impossible not to see this, although you can refuse to notice.

https://dzen.ru/a/ZSF4RsX5WT48QEVp
https://dzen.ru/a/ZSF4RsX5WT48QEVp?referrer_clid=1500&

They could get to Ukraine and train there in the ranks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces primarily through the Turkish line (Ankara actively supports Kiev, including with the supply of weapons and military equipment), although one should not underestimate Hamas’s own capabilities in Europe, especially in France, Germany, Belgium, Austria, Denmark, Sweden and Norway. And here it is more likely to look not for the Iranian, but for the Turkish trace.

[strannik1985]

They could get to Ukraine and train there in the ranks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces primarily through the Turkish line

Which Ukraine? The militants fought as part of the Free Syrian Army in Syria, and Israel supported these militants, including with strikes on Syrian troops, but now the response is “gratitude.” The same widespread use of drones was actively used by FSA militants against government troops.

[svarog77]

And the Jews continue to fight with the peaceful people, as they are accustomed to...

[rotmistr60]

Palestinian forces burst into the Magen community as unexpectedly as yesterday they invaded Israeli territory and then entered into battle with Israeli security forces.

Two days later and again unexpectedly for the Israelis? Are the IDF fighters really still confused and depressed from the first day of Hamas's successful actions? Something completely different from the vaunted Israeli army. From the air they act more decisively, knowing that they will not shoot down, because... nothing.

[Murmur 55]

rotmistr60 , this is already interesting, yesterday I agree unexpectedly + no one from Israel expected SUCH a scale and can be attributed to confusion, but today is different.

[StopTheUSA]

Now, of course, you can’t trust anyone, but it seems like the Palestinians are successfully using MANPADS against helicopters.
They say four have already landed.

[Omega options]

Hamas militants will be defeated, since there is not much you can do against the regular army.

[Old_geologist]

Quote from Omega option

Hamas militants will be defeated, since there is not much you can do against the regular army.

Such mischievous statements remind me of Grachev with his “in three days with one parachute regiment...” But everyone knows what this later resulted in. So far, the IDF is not very good at anything other than ironing peaceful civilians with missiles.

[maiman61]

Yeah! Now! If the Palestinians sit down in the residential sector, then the Israelis will get the worst! Will they be able to attack without taking into account losses like in Artemovsk? But the Palestinians have nowhere to retreat and I think they can fight.

[Lako]

Not everything is so simple during the Israeli military operation in the border regions of Lebanon, units of the pro-Iranian Hezbollah offered very stubborn and tough resistance. The Israelis had to leave after suffering losses, including in armored vehicles.

[Sailor]

I’m interested to hear Aron and Voyaki’s analysis of these tragic events. They commented so convincingly on our no less tragic deeds from the top of their egos.

[Murmur 55]

Sailor , Aron answered yesterday, sort of, but the Warriors may not have been called up.

[Sailor]

Quote: Murmur 55

Sailor , Aron answered yesterday, sort of, but the Warriors may not have been called up.

Then I apologize, I missed it.

[rotmistr60]

The warriors may not have been called up.

Since the beginning of our SVO, his comments have sharply changed in a negative direction. At first I thought that someone else was writing for him, because... even the writing style has changed. And in recent days he has probably been silent on principle.

[Murmur 55]

rotmistr60, do you remember such an author of articles on the website Tarakan OkoloRadsky? At first, too, I wrote interesting and seemingly correct things, and then it was a blast and it all went away.

[Nexcom]

he had already admitted earlier that the competent services had crap themselves and that this would not end quickly.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Greetings Sailor/Companion! By the way, yesterday Aron honestly and without showing off said that Massad had crap himself. However, like our SVR 23.02.22.. What is, is what is.

[Heel]

The Mossad has nothing to do with it, it has other tasks, Shin Bet and AMAN crap themselves, or rather I think not even they, but the political leadership, besides, recently they began to let too many personnel go home for the holidays, they relaxed, so here it’s common sense and the mighty one

[pharmacist]

Quote: Sailor

I’m interested to hear Aron and Voyaki’s analysis of these tragic events. They commented so convincingly on our no less tragic deeds from the top of their egos.

This way, the speck in someone else’s eye is always easier to see, and it’s easier to comment on. Or maybe they have already mobilized?

[Seal]

Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey

Are opiates brought to you from the Middle East?

Apparently from the south of the Arabian Peninsula.

Frankincense - dried juice, resin, (gum) of many plants of the genus Boswellia family Burseraceae - Boswellia sacra, Boswellia carterii and others, - growing in East Africa, in Yemen, in Somalia. To collect incense, in February or March, cuts are made on the tree, from which the resin continuously flows for quite a long time, covering the entire tree trunk - until, finally, the wound is healed by the drying sap. Then the dried resin is collected from the tree and from the ground, then the raw materials are divided into two varieties: selected incense - Olibanum electum and ordinary - Olibanum in sortis. Incense smoke contains a chemical called incensol acetate, which has a narcotic effect on people.

By the way, many especially value the so-called “Athos incense”. A standard souvenir box of incense the size of a matchbox is one of the most popular souvenirs brought by Orthodox pilgrims from Athos.

[UAZ 452]

Palestinian forces invaded the Magen community as suddenly as they invaded Israeli territory yesterday

You can still understand and accept the unexpected nature of the attack yesterday, but referring to SURPRISE today, located several tens of kilometers from the borders of the Gaza Strip... This is beyond the bounds of reason. They still haven't left since the weekend, or what? And in general, do the locals, since they live next to an Arab enclave, whose residents never tried to hide their hostility towards the Jews, even have weapons? Or do the local authorities not allow them to have it either, guided by the strict principle “no matter what happens”?

[SoloD]

Don’t listen to “popular nonsense”; the media live off “nonsense”.
Regarding the breakthrough... The alarming group of fighters is 5-8 people, and partly armed with pistols (and yes, I agree that the Israelis have relaxed, plus internal politics... which is more in the spirit of Europe...) the population of the village itself, on the perimeter in 3-4 km, do you think it’s possible to push through?

[Rumata]

No matter how it comes to tactical nuclear weapons.(((((((((

[faterdom]

The very existence of modern Israel was pushed into the UN by comrade. Stalin. Against all sorts of English and French.
And... soon the Israeli leadership, having given the Israeli settlers hard work on collective farms, reoriented completely towards the United States, essentially becoming a new state of America.
And the Israelis of that generation, with commanders and generals from the Second World War, and soldiers who served conscripts in the USSR, beat the then essentially medieval Arabs.
But now new times, self-PR and fierce propaganda of superiority have played a bad joke on Israel, although the first call was 15 years ago, in the battles with Hezbollah “for Corporal Gelada,” if I remember his last name correctly...
And just how much anti-Russian nonsense pours into the ears of Israeli citizens, only Ukraine is ahead.
They showed weakness; relying on the SGA has long been no longer a plus in the Middle East.
It will be bad, very bad, but Israel built this situation itself, persistently and persistently.
And when the pressure is on, only Russia, with the support of China, can save the existence of Israel.
But not pro-American - this time!
And there must be generally compelling motives to do this, which - my imagination doesn’t quite cover here.... that’s two!
It is not yet obvious, but Israeli arrogance is flying around like autumn leaves every hour, much faster than the American one, although their vector is also directed in the same direction.

[Rumata]

Quote: faterdom

It will be bad, very bad, but Israel built this situation itself, persistently and persistently.

We were on a tourist trip on excursions to holy places. We went up to Golgotha! At the end of the 90s. A terrible small-town province under the dictates of the rabbis. There are no Jews there. There are Russians, Germans, Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Ethiopians.... “Russians” hate, as they say, “peys@tyh”, they do not attend synagogues. There are mosques. The singing of the muezzins at the mosque through loudspeakers wakes up the entire neighborhood.))) No one oppressed Muslims. The bazaar near the Church of the Holy Sepulcher is completely under Arabs.
With a childhood friend and classmate with whom I kept in touch, I had a fight to the death forever because of “SVO”. The creatures turned out to be absolute Russophobic.

[runway-1]

Quote from Silver99

It’s not clear that all Russian media call Hamas militants???? And for me, anyone who presses the trigger of an Israeli warplane into residential buildings is no less a criminal. This clash, no matter how local fans of Israel write, will not end quickly, even the Israelis themselves say that if the combat phase lasts more than 4-5 days, Israel will enter into a war of attrition and extermination of its own population, and the fire is only flaring up. The boiler bubbles for a long time, but sooner or later the lid comes off.

Arguments and facts, 15.12.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX:

In 1994, as a result of negotiations in Oslo, the Palestinian Authority was created in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. The Arab population of Israel considered the results of the meeting humiliating and reacted with a new protest. Hamas began open terror. From 1994 to 1997, 15 people were killed and 155 were wounded and mutilated in 703 terrorist attacks. The location and time of the terrorist attack were specifically chosen to kill as many civilians as possible. Terrorists blew up buses and bus stations, shopping centers and cafes. Since 1997, Hamas activity has decreased, but not for long.
...In March 2000, a gunman shot and killed a 10-month-old girl with a sniper rifle; a few months later, a suicide bomber blew himself up at the entrance to a youth disco, killing 21 people, mostly immigrants from the former USSR, teenagers 14–17 years old. The intifada reached its climax in 2002, when on the Easter evening of March 27, a suicide bombing at the Park Hotel in Netanya killed 29 people and injured another 140.

I agree that the operation will not end quickly, but there is no doubt that Hamas will get what it deserves in full, and at the same time it will fall to Hezbollah.

[Cartographer]

Quote: WFP-1

Quote from Silver99

It’s not clear that all Russian media call Hamas militants???? And for me, anyone who presses the trigger of an Israeli warplane into residential buildings is no less a criminal. This clash, no matter how local fans of Israel write, will not end quickly, even the Israelis themselves say that if the combat phase lasts more than 4-5 days, Israel will enter into a war of attrition and extermination of its own population, and the fire is only flaring up. The boiler bubbles for a long time, but sooner or later the lid comes off.

Arguments and facts, 15.12.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX:

In 1994, as a result of negotiations in Oslo, the Palestinian Authority was created in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. The Arab population of Israel considered the results of the meeting humiliating and reacted with a new protest. Hamas began open terror. From 1994 to 1997, 15 people were killed and 155 were wounded and mutilated in 703 terrorist attacks. The location and time of the terrorist attack were specifically chosen to kill as many civilians as possible. Terrorists blew up buses and bus stations, shopping centers and cafes. Since 1997, Hamas activity has decreased, but not for long.
...In March 2000, a gunman shot and killed a 10-month-old girl with a sniper rifle; a few months later, a suicide bomber blew himself up at the entrance to a youth disco, killing 21 people, mostly immigrants from the former USSR, teenagers 14–17 years old. The intifada reached its climax in 2002, when on the Easter evening of March 27, a suicide bombing at the Park Hotel in Netanya killed 29 people and injured another 140.

I agree that the operation will not end quickly, but there is no doubt that Hamas will get what it deserves in full, and at the same time it will fall to Hezbollah.

300 Palestinians killed by Israelis in Gaza last year alone

[Boris63]

About the murder of a civilian. Both Palestinians and Jews will give even the Amers a head start. Only the Palestinians are “brainless” Kassams, and the Jews are killing each other with high-precision missiles.