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Hamas representative: The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning equipment and weapons, and now Netanyahu is threatening us with this army

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Hamas representative: The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning equipment and weapons, and now Netanyahu is threatening us with this army

The Israeli aviation During the night, almost without interruption, it carried out attacks on the territory of the Gaza Strip. It is reported that both air-launched cruise missiles and aerial bombs were used for this purpose. At the same time, Israeli aviation most often tried to carry out strikes without entering directly into Gaza airspace. The likely reason is the fear of being hit by MANPADS from the armed wing of Hamas.


Reports have appeared online that the Israeli Air Force carried out strikes on at least two mosques in the Gaza Strip. It is noted that Israeli intelligence identified these targets as those where “Hamas control bodies are located.”

Meanwhile, the official representative of this movement, Abu Ubeid, commenting on the Israeli operation, said that the Israeli authorities were “lying to their people about how many prisoners were taken the day before.”

Let us recall that Israel announced 35 prisoners. Then footage appeared online showing members of one of the Hamas detachments leading out the Israeli general.

Hamas says that the number of captured Israeli soldiers is in the hundreds.

Abu Ubaid:

The number of prisoners we have is many times greater than Netanyahu says. And what army is he threatening us with? The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning their equipment and weapon?

According to a representative of the Palestinian movement, if the Israeli army enters the Gaza Strip, it will face “many troubles in other directions, because the Israeli authorities themselves are weakening the defense of their territory by transferring troops to Gaza.”

Hezbollah also commented on the situation. The leaders of this movement stated that if the Israeli army entered the Palestinian territories, then “Israel will have to face all our strength in the north.”

Let us remind you that Hezbollah’s main forces are located in Lebanon. There have been no recent military operations against Israel.
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  1. coinsam
    coinsam 8 October 2023 07: 18
    +2
    yes, well, the usual boasting.
    The Palestinians do not have the opportunity to conduct any long-term combat operations with regular troops; they do not have heavy equipment, aviation or navy. there is no regular army.
    If they succeed in something effectively, it is possible to conduct a defense in the ruins of Gaza.
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 8 October 2023 07: 24
      +7
      Hmm, not all is well with Israel, and these victorious reports against the backdrop of a faltering voice indicate that Israel may not have ceased to exist altogether. Judge for yourself, if Hizballah joins Hamas, and the Taliban join in (and they have already announced their readiness to participate), the Israeli economy, against the backdrop of a political crisis and war with the entire Arab world, will simply grunt, and no United States will help them. Here, whether you like it or not, you have to sit down and negotiate and make concessions; today Hamas went to the bank and is clearly not going to give up. Regarding the ruins of Gaza, do not forget that about 3 million people live there and any forceful intervention is mass murder, Israel will simply stand on the same level as Nazi Germany for everyone with unpredictable consequences.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 8 October 2023 07: 38
        +4
        Zelya still shakes hands. For all. Symbols. Thoughts are material.
        1. LSI_72
          LSI_72 8 October 2023 08: 06
          +3
          He's not a handshake for everyone. So you antivirus is wrong.
          1. Al manah
            Al manah 8 October 2023 09: 30
            -2
            Well, yes, that’s true, some people didn’t shake his hand, but they even gave him guarantees of safety.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 8 October 2023 09: 47
              +5
              Hamas relented.
              They posted a video online thanking Zelya for selling NATO weapons
              But it’s still unclear. Both Hamas and Israel talk about three hundred militants, so you can trust the number.
              How were three hundred able to bend all of Israel?
              1. Alexey Lantukh
                Alexey Lantukh 8 October 2023 22: 20
                +2
                Well, to say that they defeated the Israeli army is not true. Well, we beat down a couple of units. Israel will organize itself and warm up this Hamas well. At the same time, several tens of thousands of peaceful Arabs will suffer.
      2. bondrostov
        bondrostov 8 October 2023 07: 38
        +12
        And believe me, no one will care even if all 3 million Polistinians are destroyed. Double standards. That's the way the world is now
      3. Azerbaijan2023
        Azerbaijan2023 8 October 2023 07: 43
        -14
        Quote from Silver99
        as if Israel had ceased to exist altogether.

        Israel will exist. There is no force on our planet that can eliminate all of Israel for one reason. NATO is in the pocket of the Jews. Of course, there are those who do not like them, but the key NATO countries are with Israel.

        Quote from Silver99
        Israeli economy against the backdrop of political crisis and war

        There's no problem with that. The United States will immediately give them a couple of tens of billions. Everything is ok with their money.

        Quote from Silver99
        Here, like it or not, we have to sit down and negotiate and make concessions

        After yesterday, I think Jews will not talk to Palestinians.

        Quote from Silver99
        Israel will simply stand on the same level as Nazi Germany for everyone, with unpredictable consequences.

        This is not the first time that you believe them. They will solve this problem. I don’t know how, but they will definitely decide!
        1. Dutchman Michel
          Dutchman Michel 8 October 2023 08: 26
          +4
          Quote: Azerbaijan2023
          The USA will immediately give them a couple of tens of billions

          It's a piece of cake for them to draw
      4. Mikhail Maslov
        Mikhail Maslov 8 October 2023 08: 08
        +7
        One very big “IF”, the first comment described the situation absolutely correctly. The Hamas board will sit out, and Palestinian civilians will be killed, wounded, and imprisoned. No Hezbollah will help. This cannot even be called a war. Get drawn into the conflict , which means they’ll get the most of it. And here it’s not worth fighting against the army. This is an objective look at events. And by the way, Israel will not go to war with Iran. Somehow the Jews missed their time, now the situation is not the same and the war with Iran may simply end with the disappearance of the Israel.
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 8 October 2023 19: 08
          0
          I don’t know whether Israel will go to war with Iran. But this is no longer a war between countries, but a “crusade” of Muslims against Israel. In any case, the possibility is very clear. Muslims are very ideological.
      5. Vita vko
        Vita vko 8 October 2023 08: 32
        +5
        Quote from Silver99
        Israel will simply stand on the same level as Nazi Germany for everyone, with unpredictable consequences.

        First, compare the territory of Israel determined by the UN decision of 1949 and what the Jews have now captured
        [Center]
        It’s probably worth mentioning the rights of Palestinians, or rather the lack thereof, in the Israeli-occupied territories, who were initially driven out of their homes into reservations. And of course, it’s no secret that every year the United States allocates tens of billions of dollars, more precisely from 40 to 50, for the “defense” of Israel. compare the military budget with the fact that the Americans are now pouring Ukrainians into the war with Russia.
        I think the conclusions are obvious.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 8 October 2023 15: 24
          -8
          Quote: Vita VKO
          First, compare the territory of Israel determined by the UN decision of 1949

          The Arabs refused to recognize this UN decision and started a war. And you have to pay for your decisions.
          So they can shove all other arguments based on an irrelevant decision, which they themselves abandoned, into their rectalis ostium. As does everyone who supports them.
      6. Rome
        Rome 8 October 2023 09: 18
        +3
        Naturally, the Israeli army can cope with semi-partisan formations, but the experience of Afghanistan and Iraq, and Syria, shows that this task cannot be solved without serious mobilization. Losses will likely be big for everyone! The Palestinians are supported from outside, so I think they have no problems with the BC; for the Israeli army this is unpleasant news.
        Did I somehow miss how it all started? Was there such an event that provoked the Hamas invasion of Israel, or did they decide to resume the war with the goal of creating Palestine as a state?
      7. Rage66
        Rage66 9 October 2023 16: 00
        -1
        I’m embarrassed to ask, what is “in o bank”? lol
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 8 October 2023 07: 24
      +8
      Drones, all of them! It was necessary to use kamikaze drones to hit military airfields, first of all, military warehouses, military locations, then the damage inflicted on the Israeli army would be much higher than what would have been inflicted on them.
      1. Silver99
        Silver99 8 October 2023 07: 30
        +19
        I was simply surprised by the new branch of Hamas troops, these are combat motor-gliders, which is not the local airborne forces smile This is truly a need for invention to be cunning.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 8 October 2023 08: 56
        -1
        I think they attacked. But the Jews fought back.
    3. Foundling
      Foundling 8 October 2023 08: 17
      +13
      The Palestinians simply outraged the Mossad and the IDF. Such a reputational slap in the face is forever! And even the incineration of gases will not change the situation. The myth of invincibility and the iron dome collapsed before the eyes of the whole world, including the Arab one. This is very dangerous for Israel. In the future, Iron Dome will be suppressed by drones, and massive launches will continue. Unfortunately, this is the first stream that caused the wall to crack.
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 8 October 2023 15: 22
      -9
      Quote from monetam
      usual boasting

      More like a bluff, puffing out one's cheeks out of fear. They are frankly afraid of what will follow. After all, they really counted on hundreds and thousands of hostages who would tie the hands of the army. In this sense, their idea failed, they mostly got only the bodies of the dead, a few living hostages. Now they are in a panic, and I understand them; anyone in their place would be in a panic.
      It's like knocking out a wedge holding a mountain avalanche, and then watching it come at you, picking up speed. Anyone can screw themselves here.
      1. sifgame
        sifgame 8 October 2023 19: 47
        +6
        I saw a lot of your comments on these events, it became clear that nothing serious happened, it was nothing and the Israelis were in trouble.
      2. Ovsigovets
        Ovsigovets 9 October 2023 00: 26
        0
        We listened to a short pep talk on the topic “we have an army, wow, and finally special services”..... Yesterday we saw everything with our own eyes...... So no need....... How is everything OK with you? interesting, we saw..... But what am I talking about. What I saw yesterday is that the LCD is not a panacea and is quite overloaded. There are Muslims around you who love you very much. They also draw conclusions from modern conflicts and the number of charges on aircraft will grow and grow. Israel is a small country, purely geographically... And all ground targets become achievable and air defense will not shoot down everything... I'm not even talking about the possibility of using weapons of mass destruction.... You may not have time to escape anywhere
      3. Ovsigovets
        Ovsigovets 9 October 2023 00: 30
        +1
        By the way, a question arose about yesterday..... Mattresses voiced Hamas in an attack of 1000.... From open sources, your army is 165000. Well, okay, Hamas was unexpectedly taken by surprise at the front posts and units..... And where is the rest of the army ? They said that Hamas was fighting in the corner up to 40 km deep.... This is kind of like border territory..... Are there really no parts that are a little remote but still nearby? Where is everything?
  2. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 8 October 2023 07: 20
    +6
    ***
    - “It’s not evening yet, it’s not evening yet” ...
    ***
  3. Ulum
    Ulum 8 October 2023 07: 24
    +9
    We'll see. Lately, the Tsakhal has clearly relaxed; they haven’t fought seriously for a long time
    1. Azerbaijan2023
      Azerbaijan2023 8 October 2023 07: 39
      -8
      Quote: Ulum
      Lately, the Tsakhal has clearly relaxed; they haven’t fought seriously for a long time

      Right. Now they will implement tough reforms.
    2. Normann
      Normann 8 October 2023 08: 03
      -6
      We will see

      What language is this in? They didn't teach Russian at school?
    3. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 8 October 2023 08: 07
      +1
      It’s not so much the IDF here, but intelligence, analytics, etc. Although no one is picking up mistakes from the Israeli Defense Forces. They abandoned their equipment and fled. Evacuation of planes by cars is something, at least they reacted. Where were the pilots? Although here, most likely, the aviation was in non-flyable condition , for maintenance and repair
  4. Igor1915
    Igor1915 8 October 2023 07: 25
    -9
    It’s a shame, Israel has no equal enemies in the Middle East, unless they do something with Al Aqsa and thereby unite the entire Arab world.
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 8 October 2023 07: 36
      +7
      Quote: Igor1915
      It’s a shame, Israel has no equal enemies in the Middle East, unless they do something with Al Aqsa and thereby unite the entire Arab world.

      There are no equals. All others. But for some reason there are only enemies around Israel... Why? That is the question . All this mess in the Middle East is very useful for Russia. And yes, the West should not have interfered with Armenia, Ukraine, etc. ... Time passes, the clock is ticking... Interesting events are unfolding in the world. The world has changed. And Hezbollah with rubber sandals defeats Hamas in chic ankle boots, everything flows, everything changes... Maybe not for the better, but change is inevitable... Hungry barbarians always defeat the pampered "Romans" in the end...
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 8 October 2023 08: 03
        +3
        For the sake of fairness, one can also ask the question - why are almost all enemies around us, at least not friends? And yet, Hamas is far from our friends either. I don’t think we need to take the side of Hamas, they are ordinary terrorists.
        1. Rome
          Rome 8 October 2023 09: 32
          +4
          Quote: Vladimir M
          For the sake of fairness, you can also ask the question - why are there almost all enemies around us too?

          The answer to this question is simple: Russia is a huge country, its scale influences the whole world in one way or another, whether we want it or not. request There are other global players in the world for whom our influence is not acceptable, in particular the United States. bully Therefore, they are trying to limit our influence by stimulating anti-Russian policies primarily among our neighbors! belay The Kremlin made strategic mistakes in the development of Russia and its positioning in the global economy, which led to the fact that we are no match for the United States in such a component as “soft power”; our country has little to offer its neighbors, so most neighbors are forced to navigate mainly on the USA, one way or another supporting their policies in order to maintain access to Western technologies and goods and markets bully
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        2. Al manah
          Al manah 8 October 2023 09: 41
          -2
          Why are there almost all enemies around us too, at least not friends?

          Maybe because they envy the size of the territory and the deposits of resources, and also do not like Russian influence on geopolitics, no? Damn, I completely forgot that they are all good and cannot be jealous...
        3. nerd.su
          nerd.su 9 October 2023 07: 48
          -1
          Quote: Vladimir M
          For the sake of fairness, one can also ask the question - why are almost all enemies around us, at least not friends?

          so enemies or not friends? Go to Mongolia, or something, see who is there, friends or not friends. Belarus, again. Yes, even in Kazakhstan everything is not so bad. At least my friends who come from there, when asked about Kazakh nationalism and oppression of Russians, advise reading less articles on VO on this issue laughing Although they note that the good old days are no longer... Kyrgyzstan is a different matter, everything is worse there, but they are not our neighbors.
          Again, there is Serbia, and the same Hungary. Austria is not to say that we are a mega enemy, but for company.
      2. Foundling
        Foundling 8 October 2023 08: 20
        +3
        What nonsense? Which Hamas did Hezbollah “defeat”?
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      4. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 8 October 2023 15: 33
        -10
        Quote: 30 vis
        But for some reason there are only enemies around Israel

        Update your maps, Brezhnev died a long time ago.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 8 October 2023 16: 01
          +4
          Quote: And Us Rat
          Quote: 30 vis
          But for some reason there are only enemies around Israel

          Update your maps, Brezhnev died a long time ago.

          Brezhnev died a long time ago. And what has changed? Name the friends of Israel who border its territory. Egypt? Jordan? Syria? Lebanon? Saudis? AND ? Where are Israel's friends? There are none. Israel has no friends throughout the Arab and Muslim world. Azerbaijan is trying to be a friend, trying to make friends with Jews. But they are such friends that it is better to forget about them.
      5. Igor1915
        Igor1915 8 October 2023 16: 31
        +1
        Hezbollah is not winning anything, they took several villages locally - what kind of victory is this???? The damage to Gaza will be many times greater. Naturally, Israel has relaxed after 50 years without major wars.
      6. Midnight Bear
        Midnight Bear 8 October 2023 19: 48
        0
        How did the West get into Armenia? Even interesting. Or did you create an alternative story?
  5. Azerbaijan2023
    Azerbaijan2023 8 October 2023 07: 26
    -1
    And this is in vain. They shouldn't say that. Hamas culturally needs to conduct trades. I know one thing for sure, the Jews are far from being stupid people, they have made a note to themselves and to prevent this from happening again, they will tighten the screws on the Palestinians.
  6. ZovSailor
    ZovSailor 8 October 2023 07: 30
    +3
    uv others and not others, incl. TsIPsio is still alive!
    It is a thankless mission to predict the course of further events and the necessary time to complete the unexpectedly emerging local war between the Arab world and Israel, the sluggish nature of which we have observed for many years and which, with a number of accompanying factors, can develop into a global one.
    The elite of many countries have tensed up in thinking about how best to preserve their finances,
    Which politician can you bet on?
    The conclusions are up to you and us.
    I have the honor.
  7. Sergey3
    Sergey3 8 October 2023 07: 30
    +14
    https://vk.com/video-70187376_456291179
    Even nature is hinting at something; a crow tore down the Israeli flag.
    But seriously, this is only to our advantage. Israel is a very large supplier of the most modern weapons. While they themselves have a large-scale war there, it will not displace other weapons to the Outskirts. The Jews put themselves in a pose from the Kama Sutra, emptying the weapons depots!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 8 October 2023 08: 06
      +6
      Quote: Sergey3
      The Jews put themselves in a pose from the Kama Sutra, emptying the weapons depots!

      God is not Mikitka, he doesn’t hit with a stick. The Lord's punishment is on the heads of Israel for supporting Zeli, his family and other “comrades” who are being treated there. By the way, no one from the Russian Federation went there on vacation? Like Narusova? Otherwise there would be a heap of everyone.
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 8 October 2023 09: 01
        +4
        Let the Arabs not take Galkin prisoner. And Chubais)))
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 8 October 2023 15: 36
      -5
      Quote: Sergey3
      emptying the weapons depots!

      This nonsense is not true; Israel did not give up ITS weapons stockpiles to anyone.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 October 2023 07: 31
    +12
    The Israeli Air Force also attacked at least two mosques in the Gaza Strip.
    The attack on mosques does not make Israel look good and plays against it in the Arab world, where the attitude towards this country is, to put it mildly, peculiar.
    And what army is he threatening us with? The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning equipment and weapons?
    The first day of successful active actions by Hamas gives the right to say so, but we should not forget about the mentality of those who say this, especially in terms of their capabilities.
    1. Maxim G
      Maxim G 8 October 2023 07: 41
      -6
      About mosques, the Israelis say that they have headquarters there.
      1. LMN
        LMN 8 October 2023 08: 02
        +6
        Quote: Maxim G
        About mosques, the Israelis say that they have headquarters there.

        Well, you can find a “headquarters” for a kindergarten.
        More like "hitting symbols".
        1. Maxim G
          Maxim G 8 October 2023 08: 06
          +3
          What surprises you?
          Militants can go to a mosque and set up a headquarters, warehouse, etc. there. can not?
          1. AllBiBek
            AllBiBek 8 October 2023 10: 35
            0
            In a thoroughly religious Islamic society? In mosques?
            If only the Israelis.
            1. Maxim G
              Maxim G 8 October 2023 11: 26
              +1
              It's common for action movies
              Quote: AllBiBek
              In a thoroughly religious Islamic society? In mosques?
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 8 October 2023 08: 16
          +3
          Quote: LMN
          More like "hitting symbols".

          Even if the blow was accidental, the Arab world would interpret it as a “blow against symbols.” hi
        3. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 8 October 2023 09: 02
          +1
          This will only unite and embitter the Arabs.
      2. sifgame
        sifgame 8 October 2023 19: 52
        +2
        You can say anything you want, it’s just banal revenge and a blow to the sick.
  9. zontov79
    zontov79 8 October 2023 07: 33
    +1
    It would be nice for us to hand over the American trophies captured in Ukraine to Hammas! So that the Jews would understand with whose weapon they are being beaten.
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 8 October 2023 07: 42
      0
      Yes, I would directly help Hamas and Hizbollah with weapons, but what is the difference? The West has flooded Ukraine with its weapons, so let those in the Middle East get stuck with their empty warehouses and understand that for what they cost, they will meddle less. It's time to tighten them up there.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 8 October 2023 15: 38
        -8
        Quote from Silver99
        Yes, I would directly help Hamas and Hizbollah with weapons

        In general, I would be glad to hear that you joined their ranks and came to fight for them. fellow
        Great line for an obituary. fellow
    2. Mikhail Maslov
      Mikhail Maslov 8 October 2023 08: 12
      +4
      You also hand over the nuclear weapons and immediately run to the bomb shelter. This is not our war. Ours is in the West.
      1. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 8 October 2023 10: 38
        0
        Why would they hit us with tactical nuclear weapons?
        Israel is on their other side.
        Let me throw the leftovers at each other, the whole difference is that it was a desert, it will become a radioactive desert.
    3. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 8 October 2023 08: 23
      0
      Quote: zontov79
      It would be nice for us to hand over the American trophies captured in Ukraine to Hammas! So that the Jews would understand with whose weapon they are being beaten.

      It is possible that ukry came to the rescue to sell directly from the supplies.
      Maybe with the implicit submission and approval of the striped ones.
      1. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 8 October 2023 10: 39
        0
        Not “not excluded”, but “guaranteed”.
        Call a spade a spade.
    4. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 8 October 2023 10: 37
      0
      It will be useful for you.
      Let the Taliban push them from their caches, they will have more.
  10. Sith
    Sith 8 October 2023 07: 36
    +7
    Quote: zontov79
    It would be nice for us, the American trophies captured in Ukraine, to be handed over to Hammas! So that the Jews would understand with whose weapon they are being beaten.

    I think some of the MANPADS, rifles, ATGMs were purchased on the dark net or directly from the Ukrainian Armed Forces/USA
  11. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 8 October 2023 07: 37
    +3
    Hamas representative: The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning equipment and weapons

    The essence of such attacks and boastful statements was best described by General Gromov, commander of the Soviet contingent in Afghanistan

    “We carried out operations, did whatever we wanted, and the Mujahideen did only that”

    Now the regular IDF army will properly thin out Gaza
    1. Cartographer
      Cartographer 9 October 2023 10: 01
      -1
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Hamas representative: The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning equipment and weapons

      The essence of such attacks and boastful statements was best described by General Gromov, commander of the Soviet contingent in Afghanistan

      [b]“We carried out operations, did whatever we wanted, and the Mujahideen did only that”

      You can say whatever you want. The result is important. Will Israel lose 15 thousand people? 100 tanks? 50 planes?
  12. Roust
    Roust 8 October 2023 07: 37
    +9
    Where is Galkin, why isn’t he wearing a helmet in the ranks of the Israeli army!?
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 8 October 2023 07: 51
      +6
      Alkin is now measuring the map with a compass and figuring out how to get to the Canadian border with all his belongings and household members.
    2. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 8 October 2023 07: 55
      +4
      Here our airports are full of people from Israel, I hope our special services are already meeting them, perhaps Galkin and his grandmother will arrive.
  13. spektr9
    spektr9 8 October 2023 07: 39
    -5
    You can immediately tell whose publication it is, the next Arab-Israeli conflict has begun, all SVO is on the side, news is only about it, though again, apart from the opinions of experts and the incident with the merk, there is nothing to publish, but it directly sucks up everything in VO...
    1. Pytnik
      Pytnik 8 October 2023 08: 17
      +2
      Well, first of all, there are at least two videos on the cam network with the destruction of your merks, + a bunch of captured equipment
    2. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 8 October 2023 08: 54
      +3
      more than 7 destroyed from photos and about 14 captured and burned tanks
    3. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 8 October 2023 10: 42
      +1
      So, if it smells bad here, why do you come here?
      1. spektr9
        spektr9 8 October 2023 10: 47
        +1
        Have all the Jewish bots unsubscribed? Well, at least don’t start yelling, you’ll trample to defend your new homeland)
  14. mad-max78
    mad-max78 8 October 2023 07: 53
    +11
    I have dual feelings about what happened; on the one hand, I feel sorry for the civilians, yes, as a person from the DPR, I feel sorry for them, although no one in Israel feels sorry for our civilians.
    On the other hand, I’m surprised at how unprepared the Israeli army was for such enemy actions; I would never have thought that the Israelis would underestimate the enemy so much and would be so unprepared for a modern war with the massive use of drones, if the Arabs had that number of FTP drones, then the consequences for Israel would be even worse; if kamikaze drone operators with experience in combat operations in Ukraine appear there, then they will, to put it mildly, have waffles. Everything is leading to the fact that Israel’s overwhelming technological superiority over its natives is disappearing and this will lead to equal losses on both sides, and the human resources of Arabs and Jews are incomparable.
    1. Cartographer
      Cartographer 9 October 2023 20: 22
      -2
      Quote from: mad-max78
      if kamikaze drone operators with experience in combat operations in Ukraine appear there, then they will, to put it mildly, have waffles.

      The electronic warfare will be adjusted and there will be no waffles.
  15. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 8 October 2023 07: 54
    +9
    And yet, Palestinians and Jews must learn to live together, the leaders of both must put forward the idea - one state, two religions!
    The Jews have nowhere to go and the Palestinians should not give up their territory.
    1. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 8 October 2023 10: 46
      +1
      Can you imagine a joint state of the USSR and the Third Reich?
      Low-grade fiction.
      It's the same here.
      1. dump22
        dump22 9 October 2023 00: 36
        0
        Can you imagine a joint state of the USSR and the Third Reich?


        A joint? No.
        But I can well imagine their military and political alliance.
        In the fall of 1940, Hitler invited Stalin to join the Axis countries (Germany-Italy-Japan). and form a "quadruple alliance".
        This union did not take place due to Stalin’s great demands - he definitely wanted Bulgaria, Finland and the Black Sea straits.
        1. Cartographer
          Cartographer 9 October 2023 20: 30
          -1
          Quote from: dump22
          In the fall of 1940, Hitler invited Stalin to join the Axis countries (Germany-Italy-Japan). and form a "quadruple alliance".

          All these are fairy tales. Barbarossa began to be developed earlier. I still believe that Hitler wanted to first crush England and then take over the USSR. What kind of alliance, when the ideology of Nazism directly provided for Drang nach Osten? I watched the film here. Tora, tora, tora, like or something on the topic. There, young Japanese officers beat their heels in the chest for an alliance with Germany. Yamamoto took Mein Kampf from the shelf and forced them to read. There, in plain text, the Japanese are called an underdeveloped race.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 October 2023 08: 00
    +3
    Hamas representative: The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning equipment and weapons, and now Netanyahu is threatening us with this army
    And most importantly, what did the Hamas Representative say wrong?! That's right!
    1. fa2998
      fa2998 8 October 2023 08: 14
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      And most importantly, what did the Hamas Representative say wrong?! That's right!

      This may be true, but in June the Red Army fled, abandoning tanks and artillery, but ended with the storming of Berlin. A surprise attack gives advantages, but then the resources of the economy act.
      Can you tell me which area of ​​the economy is thriving in Gaza? what hi
      1. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 8 October 2023 10: 49
        0
        How were France doing the year before, and how was Poland the year before that?
        You don’t use the demagogue’s tricks, it’s not Skabeeva or Solovyov’s show where you flaunt the facts.
      2. Cartographer
        Cartographer 9 October 2023 21: 00
        0
        Quote: fa2998
        Can you tell me which area of ​​the economy is thriving in Gaza?

        Do you seriously think that Hamas lives from taxes on stalls?
    2. Mikhail Maslov
      Mikhail Maslov 8 October 2023 08: 18
      +1
      Pathos and panache. Now the army will destroy both the Gaza Strip and Hezbollah if it enters. The technical superiority is too great. Surprise played into the hands of the Palestinians, but military operations against the army are completely different. Mobile groups here are already targets and quickly destroyed.
  17. Omega options
    Omega options 8 October 2023 08: 11
    -1
    Iran needs and needs to transfer the war to Israel before the US coalition attacks Iran.
    That is why the attack on the Palestinians was launched. Now Syria will join in, before Turkey attacks Damascus.
    Those. Now global players have begun to use proxy wars to deflect the blow from themselves.
    What's next.
    There is a connection between Israel, Turkey and Azerbaijan.
    But Israel's war with Palestine destroys all this. And this is beneficial for Syria and Iran.
    For Syria and Iran, it is survival around predators. Since Russia is busy in Ukraine.
    And this whole mess is beneficial for the USA, Canada, Australia. Their outfitters will receive a huge military order for at least ten years.
    1. Almeka
      Almeka 8 October 2023 09: 12
      +3
      Syria itself has not yet regained control over its territory. She is torn by war. Why would she get involved in another conflict? At the same time, it is obvious that there will be no help from the Russian Federation, because everything goes to the SVO.
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  19. pexotinec
    pexotinec 8 October 2023 08: 21
    +7
    Mobilization of all Jews, especially those who came/escaped from Russia. Galkina first of all laughing
  20. Alexey Koshkarov
    Alexey Koshkarov 8 October 2023 08: 33
    +4
    It was easier to bomb Syria. There were no losses
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  23. bone1
    bone1 8 October 2023 18: 19
    +1
    Yes, let them kill each other, don’t feel sorry for them, especially the Jews
  24. Uma palata
    Uma palata 8 October 2023 18: 44
    +2
    Quote: Ulum
    We'll see. Lately, the Tsakhal has clearly relaxed; they haven’t fought seriously for a long time

    There are videos floating around the Internet in which IDF girls danced beautifully in tight uniforms. The men, no less spectacularly, shook their guns and sang folk songs about love for their homeland. Relaxed, an overabundance of entertainment. But this is not the main thing. Rich and very rich people, old women, actors, talkers from Russia and Ukraine came there for permanent residence. They brought money! for three generations of a luxurious life for their children. Money brought by runaways, free money, that’s what greatly relaxed the inhabitants there.
  25. Lisman
    Lisman 8 October 2023 18: 45
    +2
    Israel is taking the path of genocide against the Palestinian people. I don’t know about the whole world, but the Middle East will not forgive them for this.
  26. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 8 October 2023 21: 23
    +1
    I wonder how this conflict will affect the scale of repatriation of Jews to Israel? And will all Israelis show perseverance and be ready to die for their country? Especially those who have recently become citizens?
  27. Fangaro
    Fangaro 8 October 2023 23: 16
    +2
    The media has gone crazy.
    Everyone has forgotten about the 80 percent of Armenians who left Nagorno-Karabakh.
    They forgot about the eight years of expulsion of Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
    They forgot about the burning of 400 thousand books in Russian in Kyiv.
    Everyone forgot that not five thousand Palestinians from Gaza, but as many as 20 thousand out of more than a million, were allowed to work in Israel.
    The main news is that the IDF overslept and civilians are dying.
    Civilians always die. And especially when politicians cannot or do not want to agree.
  28. dump22
    dump22 9 October 2023 00: 19
    +1
    WHY did he start this?
    What is the ultimate goal of this operation?
  29. Fangaro
    Fangaro 9 October 2023 01: 18
    0
    The number of prisoners we have is many times greater than Netanyahu says. And what army is he threatening us with? The Israeli army fled from us, abandoning equipment and weapons.

    If there are many prisoners, this is a problem for those who captured them. We need to protect them, deliver water, feed them at least once a day, and ensure order.
    It is not necessary to take many prisoners, but to convince few politicians of the new rules. Sometimes reducing the number of these politicians.
    1. Cartographer
      Cartographer 9 October 2023 23: 35
      -2
      Quote from Fangaro
      If there are many prisoners, this is a problem for those who captured them. It is necessary to protect, deliver water, feed at least once a day, ensure order

      I beg of you
      Keeping prisoners is not such a problem. Weld a cage for 5-10 people, provide water and feed them once a day. These are not prisoners of Azov who lived in Erdogan’s villas in Turkey
    2. Yaroslav Tekkel
      Yaroslav Tekkel 10 October 2023 20: 05
      0
      Wow, a living Hamas member is writing. How is it in Gaza, are you in a fighting mood?
  30. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    +1
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    By the way, a question arose about yesterday..... Mattresses voiced Hamas in an attack of 1000.... From open sources, your army is 165000. Well, okay, Hamas was unexpectedly taken by surprise at the front posts and units..... And where is the rest of the army ? They said that Hamas was fighting in the corner up to 40 km deep.... This is kind of like border territory..... Are there really no parts that are a little remote but still nearby? Where is everything?

    Here is where:
    1) In Israel and almost everywhere: incorrect assessment of the enemy, incorrect policy of appeasing the enemy, feeding the enemy with one’s own money and resources, complacency in the face of obvious and hidden threats, internal political, intra-religious, intra-cultural, intra-national tension, etc.
    2) Celebration of historical and religious events in exchange for security, observance of Shabbat by security forces against the backdrop of the presence of an enemy, and point 1). The rest of the army was released for the holidays; Also. arrive at the IDF on weekends;
    3) Throwing hats in all countries is typical not only of commentators, but also of politicians, intelligence officers, the military and security forces: where is it not so? The USA/Afghanistan and Russia/Ukraine are also striking examples.
    Misrepresentation and underestimation in Israel... as well as almost everywhere else.
    Hat-throwers and pseudo-patriots (not to be confused with real patriots!) are one of the main enemies of their own state.
    4) So far, of the last wars in history, only two Azerbaijan/Armenia wars went differently.
    5) The current of our Northern Military District did not go according to the plans of the RF Ministry of Defense and the RF General Staff.
    6) AT 40 km...
    Wagner's 800 km campaign with the downing of planes, have you forgotten?
    Logic teaches us to consider phenomena and events in interconnection and comparison, and not in isolation.
    7) By the way, Hamas can deploy up to 40 thousand armed and trained fighters in Gaza...
  31. Denis812
    Denis812 9 October 2023 06: 57
    0
    Undoubtedly, Israel will unwind Hezbollah, but the development of events is not without interest.
    I only feel sorry for the civilians, but this is very instructive.
  32. serzhdrozdov1974
    serzhdrozdov1974 9 October 2023 12: 46
    -2
    A good moment for Syria to push back the Golan Heights...