Israeli Merkava tanks may be transferred to Iran after being captured by Hamas forces

This morning, Palestinian formations of the Hamas movement and a number of allied organizations suddenly invaded Israeli territory. Using the factor of surprise, Palestinian troops seized control of a number of settlements bordering the Gaza Strip and even occupied a military base.

Arab television channels later reported that the famous Israeli Tanks "Merkava". We are talking about several, and according to a number of sources, 14, Israeli-made tanks. Several more tanks were likely destroyed by Palestinian drone strikes.

But many experts are now puzzled by another question: after being captured by Hamas, Merkava tanks may appear at Iran’s disposal. Most likely, this will be the case. Iranian specialists can take away the “stuffing” of tanks, samples of armor for subsequent study for two purposes - firstly, to develop more effective ways to counter such tanks, and secondly, to borrow best practices.

Of course, it will be quite difficult to deliver entire tanks from the Gaza Strip to Iran. But if we talk specifically about individual parts and equipment, then there is no particular difficulty here. For example, all this can be exported through other Arab countries.

However, today’s attack by Palestinian forces has largely debunked the myths about both the “invincibility” of the Israeli army and the “invulnerability” of the Merkava tank. We must give the Palestinian Hamas units their due; they prepared very well for their operation, but why Israeli intelligence, both political and military, “slept through” it remains to be established.

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[Silver99]

Normal, and who will say that this is not legal? Their friends from the USA are transferring weapons intercepted from Iran to Ukraine, normal gesheft

[And Us Rat]

Quote from Silver99

and who's to say

The author writes nonsense, it is physically impossible to remove the tank from there. A tank is not a cigarette case; you can’t carry it in a suitcase.

[moscowp]

It's complete nonsense and a wet dream, even if one of these Arabs in flip-flops could drive a tank. Fortunately, we don’t need such handouts; we have our own, unparalleled tank - the Armata!

[AHTONOB]

En chanclas, puede, pero son capaces de capturar nada más y nada menos que tanques al invencible Tsahal. Ya querrías tú ser capaz de hacer algo así.
Cierto que la transferencia parece difícil salvo que Israel ya haya sido derrotado.

[stankow]

Not in the suitcase, but the landing ship can easily land on the flat beaches of the Gaza Strip. It will take you to Lebanon or Syria, and then there will be even deeper water ports with cranes.

[nedgen]

Quote: stankow

Not in the suitcase, but the landing ship can easily land on the flat beaches of the Gaza Strip. It will take you to Lebanon or Syria, and then there will be even deeper water ports with cranes.

About loading onto a landing ship, you are of course right, but the question is whether IDF aviation will allow you to approach this very beach and then leave with impunity after loading. Moreover, loading if the tank is not moving is still a hassle.

[Berkut752]

And Us Rat (My name is Legion, for there are many of us), do you really think so? Open a geographical map and look.

[Archon]

Of course, it will be quite difficult to deliver entire tanks from the Gaza Strip to Iran. But if we talk specifically about individual parts and equipment, then there is no particular difficulty here. For example, all this can be exported through other Arab countries.

Quote from text.
Although in modern tanks everything +/- has been the same for a long time. The question is more about money.
And everyone’s weak points are also the same: the sides, roof, tracks, rear part, open hatch and human stupidity and irresponsibility.

[Ilya-spb]

The Jews have disgraced themselves... They looked too much at their Ukrainian fellow tribesman.

Let Chubais buy off the Arabs)))

[Nexcom]

Chubais, that is, Moshe Izrailevich, probably screwed up a long time ago. He is an expert on such matters.

[Sedoy]

This is what the recognition of homosexuality in the country leads to... :)
And the red-haired man has long been an “independent Scottish expert”...

[ave0123]

It wouldn’t hurt to get one of these tanks for us to study.

Well, or at least KAZ Trophy for study by our weapons manufacturers. I hope our intelligence services have already taken care of these issues...

[Nexcom]

Well, if Iran receives the Merkava, then most likely ours will be allowed to inspect it

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

God forbid, Israel finds out that Hamas is fighting with dill weapons - the Jews will circumcise all the chubbys.) Pray, chubbats...

[VasyaRules]

It would be great. We also need to know what Israel came up with

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Nexcom

if Iran receives Merkava

She won’t get it, there is nowhere and nothing to take her out of there. They also burned it.

[Persia]

Quote: And Us Rat

She won't get it, there is nowhere and nothing to take her out of there. They also burned it.

it must be painful for you. until yesterday you were saying that Israel is a giant that can even take down Iran or Russia by itself and US is the one that needs Israel not other way around. you implied that Mossad knows everything under the sun now you are arguing about either your useless tank would be received in Iran or not.
as I told you before the only thing Israel is exceptional at it is propaganda and media hype
just like in Lebanon that only a militia(Hezbollah) liberated Lebanon in 2000 and defeated you in 2006 by Iran's help. now you are humiliated by another militia
Persians are too smart for you to handle, they didn't developed 4 empires by being dumb after all they invented the chess and pretty soon you be Kisho mat (Persian word that you know as checkmate)

[Alexey Alekseev_5]

What is there to see? A narrowly sharpened tank. For the Middle East. We penetrate the KAZ with drones. It also burns well. I read. that the fire extinguishing system is at its best. Didn’t notice

[alexoff]

I wonder how the Mossad is feeling? It seems that today some myth has collapsed.

[Ivan F]

We slept epically, yes. An attack on mopeds and motorized paragliders is simply an unforgettable sight these days.
Unless all this is the work of this very Mossad. Let's look at the continuation and who will begin to blame whom for the "failure" on the Israeli scene and what will follow.

[Nexcom]

How, how - how they dipped their chosen face into a cow dung...

[Khakas]

We need to bring a couple of parts to Russia)) it won’t hurt

[Huarabey]

KAZ has probably already left for Russia))
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[bk0010]

Quote: Warabey

KAZ has probably already left for Russia))

Why do we need it? Just look at it, but don't copy it. We have our own, but we don’t have the money for it: we need to equip too many tanks with it.

[Huarabey]

The point is not that we don’t know how to protect our tanks, the point is that we need to know how others protect their tanks.

[Sharky]

They write that the Palestinians received the latest modification of the Merkava 4 with the Trophy active protection complex.

[Thrifty]

In the photos of the Merkava 4, everyone comes with a KAZ Trophy, they now have it as standard!

[Alex777]

Where are these KAZ fans who shouted that the Lancet was not a hindrance to them?
A simple drop from a copter destroyed both the Trophy and the tank protected by it.

[sifgame]

They laughed at our “barbecues”, now they too will have “high-tech” barbecues.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

It will be difficult to drive them there: now the Jews will withdraw the fleet to blockade the Gaza Strip.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

It will be difficult to drive them there: now the Jews will withdraw the fleet to blockade the Gaza Strip.

Why drive him away entirely? Samples of armor, KAZ and equipment will be enough. This can be carried out on a camel.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

It will be difficult to drive them there: now the Jews will withdraw the fleet to blockade the Gaza Strip.

The Gaza Strip has a land border with Egypt...
Palestinians mainly use underground tunnels to transport contraband.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Egypt is furious with the Palestinians. He has his own problems through the roof, now he has to deal with this too.

[Grits]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

It will be difficult to drive them there: now the Jews will withdraw the fleet to blockade the Gaza Strip.

I think it's even impossible. It’s just that when talking about this, you just need to look at the map. The gas sector is not a huge country with a lot of roads and ports. This is a city by the sea surrounded by desert and a concrete wall. One huge human anthill. Everything is visible there. Not a single ship will approach the city if desired.

[Uriy Petroff]

Room experts will disassemble and transport anywhere

[antivirus]

Are Jews leaving the BBW? Where? Hello Maximka, and Alka...
And I wonder if you’ll go to Australia? Don't come near me, under my side. I can breathe better without you.
But opening your star, ah, it’s not easy, just, easy, ah... but a safe toilet has become more important than an unlimited card

[ASG7]

What is it about these tanks that Iran needs so much? American type armor (composite armor plates), Chinese electronics.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

And out of principle? So spit in their faces!

[Rumata]

Quote: ASG7

What is it about these tanks?

For example, at Uralvagonzavod the designers would study it with great interest. Completely different design schools, different traditions, different technologies. Even in small things, you can adopt a lot or, on the contrary, understand that your own is better. Analyze each nut. Especially the engine, with which we have had problems for centuries.
Find strengths and weaknesses, understand how to improve your own and how to destroy someone else’s.
A huge amount of work.

[Alex777]

Quote: Rumata

For example, at Uralvagonzavod the designers would study it with great interest.

Let's hope everything works out.
SAR is not far away. Arabs love money.

[Bear]

I don’t think that the Israeli tank building school, like other military-industrial complex schools, is very different from ours. The entire military-industrial complex of Israel and the United States is 80% Jews who escaped from the USSR and passed on their knowledge to the younger and sharper ones through a mentoring system.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

It's not about schools. The laws of physics are the same all over the world, so engineers do roughly the same things. And the main difference in weapons comes from the customers. For example, in the USSR they constantly designed heavy and super-heavy tanks, but the customer (MoD) demanded that they maintain the weight, so nothing that was designed went into series. In France, the Dassault company, after the very successful Mirage 2000, rolled out an enlarged twin-engine version, which was a heavy fighter in the same class as the F-15 and Su-27. And she promoted it vigorously. But the local Ministry of Defense firmly said that heavy fighters were not needed, and a very good machine was buried.

[Maxim G]

Mirage 4000, France did not need it.
Because The successful Rafal was developed and went into production, which replaced several outdated aircraft, including carrier-based ones.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

When the Mirage 4000 was already flying, the characteristics of the “European Fighter” (not even the “Rafale” yet) were only being agreed upon. Somehow they were able to bring it into combat-ready condition only in the 21st century. The plane was surprisingly successful (even with weak engines), but only for the Indian tender. Before that, in training battles with the F/A-18 (not the most successful and not the newest aircraft), there were continuous losses due to failures of various equipment. And even in its current form, the Rafale is a medium-light fighter (and competes with the F-16, MiG-35 and other shit, winning due to its youth), and the 4000 was an analogue of the F-15 and Su-27.

[Maxim G]

Rafal was initially developed, like the land and deck ones, with stealth measures based on the airframe.
Mirage 4000 is like a land one, neither Mirage 2000 nor Mirage 4000 have such events
And France already had such a plane at that time.

Rafale in its current form is a competitor to those aircraft that are classified as 5th generation in the USA, China and Russia.

[rotfuks]

What’s special about a Merkava with an engine? Is it because you don't know? A German MTU883 engine and a German Renck transmission are installed there. During the German-Russian friendship, the Germans installed such engines on ChTZ bulldozers. Go and look at the engine as much as you like.

[sifgame]

Fuck Uralvagonzavod this Merkava is not needed, but those who like to copy everything and everyone definitely need it.

[Thrifty]

So it is necessary to immediately withdraw at least a couple of tanks to Iranian territory! And it is best to withdraw all captured tanks as quickly as possible to Iran.

[Grits]

Quote: Thrifty

So it is necessary to immediately withdraw at least a couple of tanks to Iranian territory! And it is best to withdraw all captured tanks as quickly as possible to Iran.

How? It would be interesting to know the export mechanism.

[taiga2018]

Any conflict not near our borders is to our benefit, because the United States will have to be distracted there, especially when it comes to our loyal ally, the mongrel Israel...

[Igor1915]

It is not entirely clear who needs this; Palestine is nothing without support. And Israel simply relaxed after many years of calm.

[UAZ 452]

So maybe they made this mistake in order to “cheer up” and tone up their own population a little? By the way, if this is really the case, then I approve - if the people there rested on the laurels of the heirs to the military glory of their ancestors for a few more decades, then they could wait until the next Holocaust and exodus.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: UAZ 452

So maybe they made this mistake in order to “cheer up” and tone up their own population a little? .

Just recently, a Maidan almost took place in Israel because of the reform of the Israeli constitutional court - Netanyahu took upon himself several buckets of “political slop” - now Netanyahu will try to conduct a “small victorious war.”

[Igor1915]

I think not, I’ve been to Israel several times, the leadership there won’t do something like this, if it suddenly comes out, they’ll hang you. Both Hamas and Palestine are absolutely not independent, Iran doesn’t seem to need this, I don’t understand who needed this

[Bayun]

This is needed by the globalists, of whom there are no less in Palestine and Israel than in Washington, Moscow, Kyiv, Brussels. You can believe or not believe in the global network of villains, but it damn well explains all the absurdities of what is happening, from “strange” wars to “strange” top officials and so on.

And in all top-secret national structures there have long been “5 cells of globalists,” just as in 1917 in the General Staff of the Republic of Ingushetia there were “5 cells of the RSDLP.” It’s just that back then there was a lumpen international, and today it is an oligarchic one. The maximum program - world power - has not been canceled from the villains.

[stankow]

Without support, Israel is not a very impressive military force.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

It’s not entirely clear who needs this

Iran and Qatar. And the main target is not even Israel, but Saudi Arabia.

[Yura]

So let's see what's behind all this in the shadows. The USA and Europe are no longer able to help Ukraine and shoot themselves in the foot with their own sanctions, just stopping all this and sending Ukraine away is not allowed by the complete loss of image, face and understanding that in this case they become nothing for the rest of the world, Today's events are beneficial to them, the answer is yes, there is a reason to send Zelensky on an erotic journey and thereby end his expenses on Ukraine. Now about the Middle East - Israel has been for almost a century and for almost everyone there it has been a pain in the ass and an irritating factor, these events today are an inevitable result that was bound to happen sooner or later. Events in the Caucasus and Ukraine over the past 15 years, in which Israel was also indirectly but involved, were also an irritating and painful factor for Russia. Russia benefits from today's events, I think so. Something tells me it won’t be very easy for Israel, but the Arabs were prepared and chose the right moment to strike. But if we consider this issue in the context of the reorganization of the world carried out by the BRICS countries, then, by and large, these events are not beneficial to any of the members of this organization and can only hinder their plans.

[Igor1915]

Only a large coalition of Arabs can inflict damage on Israel; at present, it will not come together.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Quote: Jura

The USA and Europe are no longer able to help Ukraine

Yes, have at least a drop of respect and gratitude. Deda Joe fights like a lion for Russian interests. That’s it, really all American structures, from the military to economists, ordered him to transfer ATAKMS to Ukraine, and the indomitable grandfather again stated that this was not an easy matter, that it threatened to escalate, that it would weaken his own army, and that it was not necessary at all. And F-16s are not needed. And Abrams. And Apaches. And even mortars. And the endless rows of equipment in the Sierra Depot, which is stored for three world wars, are not particularly needed. How can one consider Xi, Yn and the Persians allies, but not notice a true friend?

[Bayun]

It looks like something like this...

There is a confrontation between 2 world Control Networks: a globalist one with a single digital world and national grandfathers, who prefer to exploit “their” people locally in “traditional” states. But I'm afraid "youth will win" ;)

[UAZ 452]

That's for sure. It has long been clear that when we talk about sovereignty, what is meant is the exclusive right of national elites (however, judging by the names of those on the Forbes list, the only national thing is citizenship... at least one of several) to sovereignly plunder the country's resources, keeping competitors from abroad out of this pie, while actively using administrative, law enforcement, and corruption tools. But if you take into account that these elitists most often do not want to know about responsibility to the country and the people, the big question is what such sovereignty brings for the Shirnar masses. The Westerners, at least, learned to share income with the population, at least with their employees, in order to prevent social explosions, but ours did not bother much with this, hoping in case of destabilization to have time to go over the hill, along with the capital. And even the lessons of 1917, when only a few managed to maintain their position in exile, teach no one anything.

[UAZ 452]

There are people in the USA who remember and study history. 80 years ago, the States pumped resources into the USSR through Lend-Lease, after a common victory, a cold war began between yesterday’s allies, and the entire propaganda machine of the USSR began to prove that this same Lend-Lease was not particularly needed, did not affect anything, etc. So no one will now give Ukraine more resources than necessary for it to continue to hold out against the Russian Federation. The “old” Western countries do not need a future overly independent, corrupt next local Eastern European superpower. They have enough trouble with Poland and Hungary. I’m generally silent about some kind of energy superpower.

[stankow]

Lend-Lease was needed. But it represented 4% of the expenses made by the USSR

[Volunteer Marek]

Well, that's unlikely. the Israelis will recapture their tanks or destroy them. Hamas will also be destroyed. How about punishing the organizers and assistants? I very much doubt that this is Iran in its purest form. Very similar to Bandera's handwriting. And by the way, hasn’t Russia been accused yet?

[Huarabey]

What kind of Bandera handwriting? They acted competently there. This is not “they dropped the fat” yelling at all corners.

[UAZ 452]

So how will they transport this Merkava to Iran? Hamas, of course, is good at digging tunnels, but they won’t dig all the way to Tehran. And the naval blockade of the Gaza Strip, if it has not yet been introduced, will be corrected in the coming hours. And it will be VERY different from the blockade of Ukrainian ports by our Black Sea Fleet.

[ANB]

. And it will be VERY different from the blockade of Ukrainian ports by our Black Sea Fleet.

Russia did not declare a blockade of Ukrainian ports.

[Grits]

Quote: UAZ 452

And it will be VERY different from the blockade of Ukrainian ports by our Black Sea Fleet.

But you noticed this correctly. And Jews demolish high-rise buildings without any qualms, simply claiming that there were militants there. There is a lot to be learned from the Jews about how to wage war. especially in terms of outright cynicism. But in war, all means are good. I am sure that Jews know these means and will definitely use them

[Rumata]

It will be quite difficult to deliver entire tanks from the Gaza Strip to Iran.

No problem. Either by land or via Suez.
And from there a couple of pieces. to Uralvagonzavod and a couple more pieces. to Kubinka.

[ric]

Hamas say
and if this is Wagner, so that the Zionists will no longer supply weapons to Ukraine, and their Dome too.
The operation was carried out too well, it is unlikely that this was the work of illiterate Palestinians.

[antiaircrafter]

why Israeli intelligence, both political and military, “overslept” it remains to be established.

What should I install there? They were busy with Karabakh. They provided assistance to Azerbaijan.

[ZovSailor]

uv others and not others, incl. TsIPsio is still alive!
So, what about us?
It’s not clear who’s in charge, but according to the assurances of my godfather from Odessa, Rosa, there is no income from imports,
There are only losses from Bandera and the Fuhrer, and they are constantly looking for my sons and rummaging through the cellars?
Question to the studio - And we are entering this very golden yard, who will answer correctly?
If not, Katz suggests giving up!
I have the honor

[Huarabey]

And after this Iran will not be in a state of war with Israel? Or was it possible? I remember Japan returned the newest at that time, the MiG 25, to the Soviet Union, stolen by Belenko. Why did they do this?

[Zaurbek]

Iran does not need the entire tank. Iran produces a copy of the best tank. We need communication, systems, blocks, trophies

[Huarabey]

Well, it’s not necessary. Needed. The only question is at what cost. You need to know the enemy's technique in any case.

[Zaurbek]

Put it in Kubinka, yes. And there are no directly interesting technologies there anymore.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Quote: Warabey

I remember Japan returned the newest at that time, the MiG 25, to the Soviet Union, stolen by Belenko. Why did they do this?

Everything is quite complicated there. Countries that are not at war are obliged to return hijacked planes and other equipment to each other. Legally, these are like stolen cars. Therefore, we returned to the Americans a transport ship with soldiers that accidentally landed at a Soviet airfield, and the Iranians returned our plane that had also gotten lost. Now, if there is at least a formal state of war or mutual non-recognition, then it is a legitimate trophy. Therefore, Israel did not return the flown Arab planes, North and South Korea, China and Taiwan - to each other.

[ZovSailor]

uv others and not others, incl. TsIPsio is still alive!
Do we feel sorry for our Russian patriots who left their homeland in search of a better life?
The motherland hears
Motherland knows
Where in the clouds her son flies.
With friendly affection, tender love
Scarlet stars of Moscow towers,
Kremlin towers,
She looks after you.
We are waiting for real patriots of the country, including Chbais - Moshe Izralevich and others.
I have the honor.

[Zaurbek]

Let's look at the map.....which route?

[bk0010]

They will drag it to Syria, and then whatever. And through Jordan is also possible, but less likely.

[Zaurbek]

So the events there are not near the border with the SAR......

[Insait]

Quote: Zaurbek

So the events there are not near the border with the SAR......

Exactly Zaur, but I’ll be putting pressure and bombing on them... Putting pressure on Russia

[Grits]

Quote: bk0010

They will drag it to Syria, and then whatever. And through Jordan is also possible, but less likely

Geography textbook, you must have smoked...

[UAZ 452]

You just don’t know - the border of the Gaza Strip with Syria and Jordan is located just south of the coast of Belarus, so everything is possible - the main thing is to load it, and then unload it in the Minsk port.

[lokis]

Mitów związanych z Żydami jest wiele. Można postawić tezę, że "narodowość żydowska" jest mitem. Podobnie sytuacja przedstawia się z "państwem Izrael", które jest położone w Palestynie. Zatem udany początek obalania mitów. Serdeczne gratulacje.

[bone1]

Did the Jewish crews simply abandon their working tanks and run away?

[alystan]

Israeli Merkava tanks may be transferred to Iran after being captured by Hamas forces

Maybe not only Iran. But Israel will do everything to return them or turn them into a piece of molten metal.

[bk0010]

Isn’t it an option for the Palestinians themselves to fight against them?

[Mikhail3]

This whole story smells like a setup...

[mad-max78]

Quote: bk0010

They will drag it to Syria, and then whatever. And through Jordan is also possible, but less likely.

Should I look at the map? Israel borders Syria but Palestine does not, so do you think the captured tank should be transported through Israeli territory and handed over to the Syrians on the Dutch heights?

[Warrior_II_digit]

The way to Iran is not close, they are unlikely to get there...

[Tailpipe]

Actually, it’s a little strange that Israel hasn’t thought through protection against roof strikes. Their “partners” (and owners), the United States, developed “javelins” precisely for this purpose!

[Rasp]

Why think about driving a Bedouin on a camel with a kramultuk?

[lukash66]

Wow. Where is the howl about the abandoned T90M Proryv? And then look, the Jewish soldiers also turn out to be masters of throwing everything away. And there wasn’t even a grenade in the hatch. Somehow Aronushka is not visible in the topic, will there be excuses?))))

[mavrus]

Why transfer tanks to Iran? Is Hamas itself not going to fight? It is more logical that Iran will transfer weapons.

[Garris199]

How will these tanks be delivered to Iran? Will Palestinians on mopeds be towed?

[Seal]

Quote from alexoff

I wonder how the Mossad is feeling? It seems that today some myth has collapsed.

And what side is he here? No, of course, there is some way, but still, in principle, this is not his watch. It would be more correct to ask the question “I wonder how AMAN feels?”
AMAN - Agaf Hamodiin (Intelligence Directorate) is a structural unit of the General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces, performing the functions of the central authority for managing military intelligence in the Israel Defense Forces.

[Seal]

Quote: Zaurbek

Let's look at the map.....which route?

It will be quite difficult. Israel blocks the sea coast of the Gaza Strip. There is a wall on the border with Egypt. Even two. But under the wall.....

Between Egypt and the Gaza Strip there are over 1000 (thousands) of such tunnels!!!
And anything can be taken out of Egypt for a bribe. Well, except for the pyramids

[dump22]

myths about both the “invincibility” of the Israeli army and the “invulnerability” of the Merkava tank.

Where did the myth about the existence of these myths come from?
There are no “invincible” armies and no “invulnerable” tanks.

The Yom Kippur War was completely lost by the Jews at the very beginning.
As a result of that war, the cabinet of ministers resigned, the chief of the general staff and the chief of military intelligence were removed.

[Shelest2000]

famous Israeli Merkava tanks

What is he famous for? The fact that he fired at Arab houses from afar without fear of receiving an ATGM response?