Who is ready to "cut" Antarctica?

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Resource wars have become commonplace lately. They are distinguished by their overwhelming desire of certain global players to gain access to the subsoil located on the territory of foreign states, while motivating their invasion with the most exotic reasons: from the need to urgently introduce the Western model of democracy to saving the population of these countries from the threat of weapons mass destruction. For obvious reasons, in these fabulous stories that the Western vision of the state of affairs is the only correct and expedient in terms of the correctness of government, normal people have long since ceased to believe, but so far the West has no other strategy for gaining access to resources. And since the beginning of any war, at all times, was justified by some kind of “humanistic” idea, the same excuses are still working. And yet, strangely enough, there are still people on the planet who firmly believe in the “good” goals designated for unleashing all sorts of military conflicts.



For the time being, the “disassemblies” for energy resources are going on, let's say, in the inhabited territories. But the day is not far off when one of the subjects of the global world community may show interest in spaces that today are not assigned to any of the existing states. Obviously, Antarctica is one of the richest territories on the globe. This is a real treasure of natural riches, the hands of large geopolitical players to which they still do not reach for several reasons. One of the reasons is the lack of optimal technologies and means to pump energy resources under the kilometer layer of ice mass. The second reason is the presence (for the time being) of a documented consensus among the states of the world on the status of Antarctica. Today, this status is expressed by the so-called Antarctic Convention, which was adopted in the distant 1959 year, and the final version of the treaty entered into force in the 1961 year. The Convention grants Antarctica the status of a demilitarized zone (including a nuclear-weapon-free zone). In addition, the treaty spelled out the use of Antarctica in the interests of the entire world community, and far from only individual states. On the Antarctic expanses, scientific activities are encouraged, including those that are carried out jointly by several countries.

In general, the contract, as they say, is very sound, but whether it is reliable is a big question. After all, as you know, to exit from any treaty at all times was always the most unexpected reason, and therefore the Convention on the Status of Antarctica is just a piece of paper on which any of the signatories can, if necessary, put a cross, referring to circumstances". And therefore, one hopes that the Convention will be respected forever, somehow it is not necessary, based on the historical experience of violations by different countries at different times of other similar agreements, agreements and covenants.
Therefore, it can be considered that the second reason that they have not yet put their hands on Antarctica is no more than a beautiful cover for the first reason, namely the lack of the necessary forces and means to manage the Antarctic subsoil resources at the discretion of the “exceptional” states of the world.

And to dispose, I must admit, is what. The southernmost continent has truly enormous reserves of fresh water: Antarctic water accounts for about 70% of the world's freshwater reserves. The richest reserves of water are discovered by our scientists in the bowels of the continent. Scientists called these reserves Lake Vostok, and today they are conducting detailed studies of the Antarctic fresh water produced by Russians from vast depths.

If we consider that now many countries are experiencing a serious shortage of fresh water, then its reserves on Antarctica look like a tidbit, the ideas about access to which are obviously being hatched in hot heads.

According to the US Geological Survey, in the depths of Antarctica are countless natural resources that are valued on the world market. Natural gas alone Americans counted more than 4 trillions of cubic meters. In addition, the Antarctic bowels are rich in non-ferrous metals, iron ore, diamonds, coal. The shelf of the subsoil contains significant amounts of oil.

Today, economists estimate the process of extraction of Antarctic resources in amounts that are comparable to the cost of these resources themselves, which, obviously, is a deterrent. However, many countries of the world are already inclined to cut off the Antarctic hunk, which will warm their souls until the extraction technology reaches the necessary point of its development, and when the mining process itself can cost much less. So, will resources such as gas, coal and oil be needed in those future times? The main thing - to quickly identify their claims on the territory of Antarctica, to subsequently be able to make legal claims to competitors.

Particularly eager for the Antarctic territories today are several states that, even with the presence of the Treaty on the Status of Antarctica, begin a carpet battle for the area. Such states include: Australia, for some reason deciding that it owns about 48% of the territory of the Southern Continent; these are Argentina, Great Britain and Chile, which on their maps and postage stamps stubbornly paint the impressive “pieces” of the Antarctic surface in the colors of their own territories; these are France, Norway and New Zealand, which also managed to stake out the “lands”, in effect declaring them the property of their states.
At the same time, not all of the above-mentioned states are embarrassed by the fact that the “own” territories, often designated by them, intersect with those of competitors. They are not embarrassed by the fact that, if we even talk about the possible ownership of the mainland, then you need to start with the nationality of the discoverers. And the discoverers are our compatriots Mikhail Lazarev and Thaddeus Belinsgausen, who were the first to conduct research and description of Antarctica in the 1820 year.

The opening championship of Antarctica is contested by the United States, in which the opinion took root that the southernmost continent was opened in February 1821 by the crew of the Cecilia ship, because, in the opinion of the American "partners", it was from this ship that they were the first to enter the Antarctic ice . Only here is the catch: for some reason, there are no documents on how and where this significant event happened for the USA. But with surprising systematicity in the middle of the 20 century (after the conclusion of the Treaty on the status of Antarctica), an American professor by the name of Hepgood and his other colleagues began to discover, one by one, maps, "shedding light" on the discovery of Antarctic distances. It turned out that the exact contours of Antarctica managed in some incomprehensible way to draw Admiral Oronteus Finius in the year 1531. Then they began to refer to the Haji Ahmed map, allegedly created in 1559 year. Then the cards began to be as often as mushrooms in the forest after the rain. Despite the fact that the vast majority of them were immediately recognized as fakes, the Americans with enviable persistence exaggerated the idea that Antarctica was discovered and accurately described several centuries before the Russian 1817-1820 expedition. Such a joy from the American side, especially in the midst of the Cold War, is more than understandable ... It is surprising that in the USA the map of Antarctica was not found with traces of George Washington's boots ...

In general, even judging by how different countries are trying to overdo each other in pointing out the nationality of the Antarctic territories, it can be assumed that the struggle for continental resources will be hot.

The effect of the Antarctic Treaty ends in 2048 year, and it is obvious that the closer this date is, the more attempts from certain states can be stated. Will common sense prevail? Not a fact, not a fact ...
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  1. +8
    7 January 2013 09: 55
    Water .... soon battles for it, worse than oil will be. Quoting, or sharing here will give little.
    With such rates of reproduction of Muslims, and Africa (although, they say, is dying out), water is definitely not enough.
    Of course, a crazy idea, but birth control is a good thing, but tight control. One family, one child. You can wring your hands as much as you like, blame anything, but I don’t want our grandchildren to live in wars for a sip water.
    1. +6
      7 January 2013 10: 37
      Quote: dark_65
      but I don’t want our grandchildren to live in wars for a sip of water.

      I agree with you! To avoid this, we need a strong army as quickly as possible!
      1. +19
        7 January 2013 14: 02
        In 1820, this part of the land was discovered by the Russian heroes Belinshausen and Lazarev! And therefore the palm will always belong to us!
        And the rest, let them go through the forest, especially the SGA.
        And for a long time they are already in no position to dictate their conditions to the whole world!
        It’s just that they themselves still poorly understand that their country, as a hegemon, no longer exists!
        1. +3
          7 January 2013 14: 08
          Quote: sergo0000
          In 1820, this part of the land was discovered by Russian heroes Belingshausen and Lazarev!

          Sergey, why is there no Russian flag in the center in the photo?
          1. +6
            7 January 2013 15: 18
            Alexander Romanov,
            Well, apparently soon have to draw! wink And we will issue a visa for scientific research to international scientific expeditions!
            Someone in fact in the ass itches to reconsider international agreements!
            Well, so that no one would be tempted to fall on the rights of power and stake out the entire mainland! wink
          2. +3
            7 January 2013 20: 05
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Sergey, why is there no Russian flag in the center in the photo?

            Before "bad" for Antarctica. we'll have to deal with the Arctic! There are plenty of mouths! If they try to remove us from the Arctic, I can imagine what will happen to Antarctica! laughing Until 2048, a lot of water will flow away in the light of developing world events! hi
            1. +2
              7 January 2013 22: 04
              nycsson,
              Break through! winked
    2. +4
      7 January 2013 12: 43
      Quote: dark_65
      Water .... battles for it soon, worse than oil will be

      this is the will of gum-baikal. everywhere the water runs out, and we have a glass in the morning
      1. +1
        7 January 2013 20: 07
        Quote: andrei332809
        and in the morning we have a glass

        But there is nothing to protect this glass! hi
        1. +4
          7 January 2013 21: 37
          Quote: nycsson
          But there is nothing to protect this glass

          while guarded by glory and spirit. and when they decide to try it, I hope there will be something to knock out this tooth
    3. Juga
      +4
      7 January 2013 13: 19
      Your words are not without truth.
      There is a version that the events in Libya were provoked not only by the presence of oil in this country.
      Few remember that in the first place the "Great Man-Made River", Gaddafi's grandiose irrigation project to supply the entire territory of Libya with fresh water from huge underground lakes, was completely destroyed.
      According to the UN, if in 2000 the world's water shortage, including agricultural and industrial needs, was estimated at 230 billion cubic meters. m / year, then by 2025 the deficit of fresh water on the planet will increase to 1,3-2,0 trillion cubic meters. m / year.
      1. +2
        7 January 2013 20: 10
        Quote: Juha
        According to the UN, if in 2000 the world's water shortage, including agricultural and industrial needs, was estimated at 230 billion cubic meters. m / year, then by 2025 the deficit of fresh water on the planet will increase to 1,3-2,0 trillion cubic meters. m / year

        By 2050, the world's population will approach 9 billion people, with all that it implies! Our planet has long been unable to process the "crap" that mankind emits as a result of its vital activity! I want to say that this is the whole truth! All world events and trends come from this today!
    4. 0
      8 January 2013 01: 04
      Quote: dark_65
      One family, one child

      And who do you propose to limit? All of them, or some "chosen" nation ...
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 11: 25
        Yes, let them breed .. within the national territories. Since Allah is great, even if there are at least 200 million believers in Pakistan, but it is no fucking thing then to flee from overpopulation to other countries from there to other countries. The country cannot cope with the population - slow down the growth, and solve your problems "within yourself".
        And then they first turn their countries into garbage dumps, and then break into Europe and demand that Muslim interests be respected there. And it will end up turning Europe into a garbage dump like Egypt or Pakistan.
  2. +7
    7 January 2013 09: 59
    A robust article, of course, that there are a lot of people barking at the Antarctic loaf, but fortunately for the continent no one has the resources to master what Antarctica is hiding. So while it’s too early to measure in pipelines in anticipation of 2048, until that moment the political map of the world will probably change a couple of times.
    1. +15
      7 January 2013 10: 07
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      Naturally, there are a lot of people who open their mouths on the Antarctic loaf,

      They draw maps, we also need to draw them. Bury a bottle of vodka in the snow with the date 1243 with a note "The land and ice of this Rus belongs" and the signature is Alexander Nevsky laughing Dig it in the presence of a bunch of correspondents and let them prove later that it is not. wassat
      1. +6
        7 January 2013 11: 35
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        They draw maps, we also need to draw them. Bury a bottle of vodka in the snow with the date 1243 with a note "The land and ice of this Rus belongs" and the signature is Alexander Nevsky
        Yes, Sanya. In the time of Nevsky there was no vodka, let alone bottles laughing But the idea is good. It's only better if our nuclear submarine pops up there and sends something like "where we climbed, I've been here for a long time."
        1. +4
          7 January 2013 11: 41
          Quote: Mechanic
          In the time of Nevsky there was no vodka, let alone bottles

          Not a problem, we will dig near Novgorod and find ten more of these bottles and let them prove that this is not so. wink
          Quote: Mechanic
          It's only better if our nuclear submarine pops up there and sends something like "where we climbed, I've been here for a long time."

          Maybe just build a city and drive in the border posts laughing
          Zhenya, Merry Christmas drinks
          1. +3
            7 January 2013 12: 36
            Mutually Sanya. Happy holiday. Only at you it will arrive early hours of commercials on 5 drinks
      2. +3
        7 January 2013 15: 03
        Find nailed to the glacier shield Russian prince! lol
      3. 0
        7 January 2013 17: 10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Bury a bottle of vodka in the snow with the date 1243 with a note "The land and ice of this Rus belongs" and the signature is Alexander Nevsky
        Arctic fox! laughing so long ago it was time to take it ....
    2. +3
      7 January 2013 10: 15
      Quote: Sakhalininets
      So it’s too early to measure

      Greetings, Sergey. Although no one has yet matured to fully embark on the development of the Arctic, the Russian pipisk will be more than all the others, despite the fact that so many countries are puffing up to prove that they are the most in this direction.
      And the tricks with "gifts" to the queen of the Aglitsk part of the Arctic land, so such cheap picks are seen by small-shavens borrowed from the Japs. Those are constantly soaring about the Kuriles, issuing cards where the Kurils are their territory. Japanese bedtime fairy tale for little Japanese ... laughing
      1. +5
        7 January 2013 10: 44
        Quote: esaul
        see cheap scraps of small-shaved borrowed from Yap. Those constantly worry about the Kuril Islands, issuing cards, where the Kuril Islands are their territory.

        Japan will not stop doing this until Russia begins to produce brands where Hokkaido is Russian territory. smile
        1. Baboon
          +5
          7 January 2013 13: 20
          A good offer, once there were really Kakzak settlements, and there were almost no Japanese in Hokkaido, only in the southern part of the island. But it was too painful to get to our settlements, so they left the island.
      2. 0
        7 January 2013 16: 55
        Quote: esaul
        Although no one has yet matured to fully embark on the development of the Arctic, the Russian pipisk will be more than any other, despite the fact that so many countries are puffing up to prove that they are the most in this direction.
        So no need to tryndet. We fly through Arkitika through and through. Icebreakers (those that generally remained under our fucking government) go farthest on the ice. So you don’t have to shout that as the GDP is the coolest, and we are in the ass. Do not pull your GDP to Russia. All that he does is window dressing. It was worth listening to his press conference. A lot of words and nothing specifically.
        1. 0
          7 January 2013 19: 58
          Quote: Mechanic
          So no need to tryndet.

          Which of my words falls under your statement, my dear?
          Quote: Mechanic
          We fly through Arkitika through and through.

          Have I forbidden or hindered you? To paraphrase the words of Bunshi ("Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession") - "... Kemsk volost? Yes, take it to your health ...! It's a pity?", I will say - "Yes, fly to your health! It's a pity?"
          Quote: Mechanic
          Icebreakers (those that generally remained under our fucking government) go farthest on the ice.

          So I said and am talking about the same thing ... And I have a whole folder in my favorites in the Arctic.
          Quote: Mechanic
          So you don’t have to shout that as the GDP is the coolest,

          Ah, that’s what your problem is ...! Well if you like to feel stuffed
          Quote: Mechanic
          in the ass.
          - these are your personal preferences, colleague! fellow I dare not interfere with you.
          Quote: Mechanic
          Will not pull your GDP to Russia

          Already pulled out and wonder how you did not notice. Although from there - from
          Quote: Mechanic
          asshole.
          Naturally, much is not visible.
          Quote: Mechanic
          It was worth listening to his press conference

          It depends on how you listen. If on a sober mind, but having the stock of information not from the white tape or TUPO anti-Putin media, then much could be heard. hi
          1. +1
            7 January 2013 21: 16
            Quote: esaul
            And the tricks with "gifts" to the queen of the Aglitsk part of the Arctic land, so such cheap picks are seen by small-shavens borrowed from the Japs.
            Yes, at least about this. The Japanese have views only of the islands to the Arctic zone.
            Quote: esaul
            So I said the same thing and am talking ... And I have a whole folder in my favorites in the Arctic
            for comparison, how many the USSR had and how many now (although if you take into account the loud screams about laying new ones, well, let them pay off debts to us and other cooperators first. Well, of course you won’t stop yelling at the hulls as if they were built ships)
            Quote: esaul
            Ah, that’s what your problem is ...! Well if you like to feel stuffed
            The debt of your government only to our research institute is about 3483000000 rubles. And this is without a penny. So no one will work for your royal ass anymore. It is more profitable for us to work with Italians, we receive at least decent salaries from their money.
            Quote: esaul
            Already pulled out and wonder how you did not notice. Although from there - from
            Where? It turns between the debts of everyone.
            esaulWell, we don’t climb where it is visible.
            Quote: esaul
            It depends on how you listen. If on a sober mind, but having the stock of information not from the white tape or TUPO anti-Putin media, then much could be heard
            Oh, I see. We have different info for everyone. For those close to power, one thing. But for those who work it is completely different. By the way, if they don’t cheat on me, do you have a friend as a deputy?
            1. -2
              7 January 2013 21: 30
              Mechanic,
              Zhenya, it seems that the Italians threw your friendly team before the New Year holidays. What kind of malice? request
              Actually, all your comments are from the category of "fucking the polymers", buddy. It hardly makes sense to prove the obvious to you. Your mood today is worse.
              Till...
    3. botur2013
      +4
      7 January 2013 14: 46
      Today it’s time to make sure that in 2048 no one even has a slight desire to measure caps.
  3. +2
    7 January 2013 10: 06
    If we survive, we will see ... And how would Antarctica not go to the penguins. The rest will fall on the approaches ...
    1. +1
      7 January 2013 22: 03
      We urgently arm the penguins and send them advisers. Plus missile defense and air defense. They declare a sovereignty and talk about joining the Customs Union.
      1. +2
        7 January 2013 22: 18
        Quote: Tatarus

        We urgently arm the penguins and send them advisers.

        1st battalion is already formed soldier
  4. +3
    7 January 2013 10: 14
    Since all this is so inevitable, then we just need to update the Army, build an Ocean Fleet, and give birth and raise boys !!!
    1. 0
      8 January 2013 11: 10
      "It is necessary to renew the Army, build an oceanic Fleet, and give birth and raise boys !!!" - Still, everyone in the government understood this and, most importantly, they wanted it.
  5. +6
    7 January 2013 10: 20
    Antarctica will go to the strong, the weak will look from the side.
    Conclusion: we must be strong and ready to defend our discoverers right!
  6. +4
    7 January 2013 10: 22
    Of course, you need to urgently pump up muscles and learn military affairs and crush a scumbag that prevents you from living in your native Russia and tries to break it into pieces from outside.
  7. 0
    7 January 2013 10: 31
    and who is the most greedy in our country? I think the West. They want to own everyone alone. Maybe Japan will be allowed to finish off the whales. as there Ivan Vasilich used to say: "guilty of death"
  8. avt
    +1
    7 January 2013 10: 48
    Pragmatic little Britons left everywhere except Gibraltar, and they clung to the Falklands not childishly with Argentina, and now, on the basis of their possession, they claim the whole sector in Antarctica. Chileans, for reference, give their women the opportunity to give birth at stations and record the birthplace of Antarctica.
  9. -9
    7 January 2013 10: 51
    The UN needs to declare Antarctica a common heritage.
    The UN should hold tenders for mining.
    With the proceeds from Antarctica, the UN could "feed and warm" all the poor countries of the world.
    1. +7
      7 January 2013 10: 56
      Quote: tan0472
      UN need

      Quote: tan0472
      The UN should

      It has long been necessary to raise the rainbow flag above the UN. official club pi de rov
      1. -1
        7 January 2013 11: 44
        Quote: andrei332809
        It has long been necessary to raise the rainbow flag above the UN. official club pi de rov


        Quote: wolk71
        The UN has not decided anything for a long time, so it exists for the species.

        The UN is made up of people who fulfill the will of their countries. Now they have a Pindos opinion. Time will pass - there will be a different opinion. Antarctica will not be divided tomorrow.
        Quote: Bulls.
        But what about the right-OPENER?

        I, too, for Antarctica to become Russian territory. But you need to really look at things - this is unlikely to happen. So, it is necessary that the benefits of Antarctica be for all of humanity (and not transnational corporations), and not for those countries that ascribe (draw on a map) territories to themselves. And use Antarctica for the benefit of all people (at the moment) can and should only be the UN (until they come up with something better than the UN)
        1. +3
          7 January 2013 17: 32
          Quote: tan0472
          But you need to really look at things - this is unlikely to happen. This means that the benefits of Antarctica should be for all of humanity (and not transnational corporations)
          My friend, you’re some kind of utopian! This is when, when dividing the fat pie, the bourgeoisie will stay away ???? this is possible when capitalism ceases to exist on earth, as a variant of interhuman relations
      2. +5
        7 January 2013 11: 50
        I am also for the UN Rainbow flag. This organization has long been playing with one goal.
        1. +2
          7 January 2013 12: 45
          Quote: ochakow703
          UN. This organization has long been playing with one goal.

          with the back
          1. bask
            +3
            7 January 2013 12: 54
            Quote: andrei332809


            UN. This organization has long been playing with one goal.
            with the back

            This pan..which is a hymn. A personal lackey is sysha..What the owner says he does ..
      3. 0
        7 January 2013 17: 19
        Quote: andrei332809
        official club pi de rov

        laughing EPT !!!!
    2. +3
      7 January 2013 11: 22
      Quote: tan0472
      The UN needs to declare Antarctica a common heritage.

      But what about the right-OPENER?
      1. +3
        7 January 2013 11: 51
        Well then, America should belong to the Eskimos and the Chukchi))) (in no case should not be understood as an insult - such a nation really exists and that’s what it is called, this is not a collective image - they are normal people worthy in all respects)
        1. +2
          7 January 2013 13: 55
          Quote: Waroc
          Well then, America should belong to the Eskimos and Chukchi)))

          Well, Antarctica penguins, so what?
          Only now, they were not going to "cut" it, and it looks strange, if our discovery is an international treasure,
          but as theirs, then it belongs to them alone. Sly somehow.
          1. +1
            7 January 2013 17: 25
            Quote: Bulls.
            Well, and Antarctica for penguins, so what? Only now, they were not going to "cut" it,
            but unfortunately they are waiting for the fate of the American Indians, when they do not drive those into the reservation, that is, ZOO park Zoocide however
          2. 0
            8 January 2013 11: 16
            The policy of double standards.
      2. 0
        7 January 2013 17: 22
        Quote: Bulls.
        But what about the right-OPENER?
        as Candoliza Raiz said: "What is this to you, the Middle Ages or what?"
    3. +2
      7 January 2013 11: 26
      The UN has not decided anything for a long time, so it exists for the species.
      1. 0
        7 January 2013 22: 38
        wolk71: The UN has not decided anything for a long time, it exists for the species.



        Where big money starts, good intentions end there.
    4. +4
      7 January 2013 11: 43
      Quote: tan0472
      UN need

      Quote: tan0472
      The UN should

      It was always interesting and what The UN may ?
      all long lie to the UN, it is time to dissolve this unnecessary organization already, in vain eat grub.
      1. 0
        7 January 2013 17: 26
        Quote: rkka
        It was always interesting, but what can the UN do?
        laughing and IT is always at half past five ....
    5. +2
      7 January 2013 13: 40
      Quote: tan0472
      The UN needs to declare Antarctica a common heritage.

      Isn't that because the UN headquarters in New York? :)

      On the one hand, this is the most likely solution. On the other hand, it is even more likely that the Convention will simply be extended for another hundred years. If we build by that time a couple of aircraft-carrying icebreakers or, at least, we cross the Mistral with icebreakers :)
    6. +1
      7 January 2013 17: 18
      tan0472,
      tan0472,
      Quote: tan0472
      With the proceeds from Antarctica, the UN could "feed and warm" all the poor countries of the world
      But does he need it? IT expresses only the interests of the United States and its hangers-on ...
  10. +4
    7 January 2013 11: 03
    Russia's position on this issue (and on many others) is, in my opinion, the most adequate. They correctly said above - let the idiots be measured in pipelines without the means to develop the Antarctic and cost-effective resources. We are guided by undeniable facts and documents. In the meantime, noise and din - we are quietly developing technologies and opportunities for what others so eagerly argue about. And when the time comes, anyway, on the horse will be the one who can take these resources (the possibility of developing both scientific, intellectual and physical) and hold them (including military capabilities), and not those who talk a lot about them . And the talkers will continue to speak - the language is, as you know, without bones. Naturally, development data cannot be put into a long box - they are enemies and for that they are not slumbering either.

    So for now it’s nothing more than cheap show-offs, and if there are real opportunities, cheap viewers always put themselves in their place, and quite tough!
    1. +2
      7 January 2013 13: 15
      Quote: Waroc
      We are guided by undeniable facts and documents. In the meantime, noise and din - we are quietly developing technologies and opportunities for what others so eagerly argue about.

      At $ rut for these documents all at the earliest opportunity. Enlighten about technology please.
      1. +1
        7 January 2013 14: 04
        Well, of course, I don't know anything about technology, or about ways of solving this issue. I am a man of the wrong flight, but I think you are also not aware of the "general line of the party". At the same time, I do not think that we are not doing anything and that we are not planning to do anything in this direction, for whatever it may be - well, not complete idiots are sitting in the Kremlin. I just don't know anything about the decisions and actions taken, by the way - you don't know anything either. But if we do not know something, this does not mean that nothing is being done!

        And about - on the $ root - I wrote - "and keep them (including military capabilities)", so the power component is just as necessary as the rest, then they simply cannot - on the $ host.
  11. +1
    7 January 2013 11: 14
    Who is ready to "cut" Antarctica?

    Yes, there are many who are ready to saw, who would doubt it.
    Only who will allow them something? I am glad that Russia has recently taken measures aimed at strengthening its position in Antarctica.
    1. +2
      7 January 2013 11: 52
      What? Abandoned stations resumed their work ?! Did not hear?
      1. 0
        7 January 2013 15: 45
        Quote: ochakow703
        What? Abandoned stations resumed their work ?! Did not hear?


        Thanks to the latest corruption scandals, it turned out that a ship was being built to sail to the Antarctic.
        Well, yes, I agree, the scale of the acts is not the same as under the USSR, but at least something and that is buzzing.
        And in 90, it was thought that we would not return to this, that even a little bit and it would be too late to do anything there either.
    2. +3
      7 January 2013 13: 17
      Quote: Bulls.
      I am glad that Russia has recently taken measures aimed at strengthening its position in Antarctica.

      What kind of effort? We bring people to the Vostok station by Canadian plane. The rest is all abandoned.
  12. 0
    7 January 2013 11: 49
    In my opinion, the development of Antarctica will lead to disaster, there is such a thin eco-system. After all, development is production, followed by the melting of snow, ice, and much more. At the moment, Antarctica is the reason for geopolitical fuss.
  13. +4
    7 January 2013 11: 50
    I propose to place the HEAVY ANTARCTIC TEAM there already
    With the wording "To protect the international scientific contingent from the tribes of aggressive penguins and cannibal seals"
    And that’s all .. :)
    Make a stone face and start building ... CITY, well, fighters need to live and rest somewhere :)
  14. +8
    7 January 2013 12: 12
    since we are talking about Antarctica, this picture will be in place:
  15. +1
    7 January 2013 12: 30
    It is necessary for the Ukrainians to order that on the basis of the developments on "Kharkovchanka" they would make a tank out of it back good
    Required quantity
  16. +1
    7 January 2013 12: 34
    [The Antarctic Treaty expires in 2048] So Russia needs to think about appropriating the entire mainland smile
  17. +1
    7 January 2013 13: 24
    Russia's current foreign policy does not contribute to the protection of our priority interests in the Antarctic. Moreover, with such a position, we may lose control of the closer Arctic. What are the applications for admission of foreigners to the Northern Sea Route.
    1. Skinny
      0
      7 January 2013 14: 24
      you are wrong, Russia is now the leader in the development of the pole.
      This is a priority, as Medvedev said, in foreign media they note the successes of the Russian Federation at the pole and are concerned about it there. I think with the creation of Arctic groups
      RF, everything will be gorgeous. What about the Arctic - the heritage of all mankind. We can also say Siberia - the heritage of all mankind without nat. sovereignty. Or Detroit, Michigan - the territory of all mankind, in Detroit you can grow a lot of bread and feed the children of Africa ...
    2. 0
      7 January 2013 15: 59
      Quote: Karabin
      Russia's current foreign policy does not contribute to the protection of our priority interests in the Antarctic. Moreover, with such a position, we may lose control of the closer Arctic. What are the applications for admission of foreigners to the Northern Sea Route.

      On the contrary, our recent affairs in the Arctic made the Civilized people (judging by their reaction) very nervous.
      If everything was, as you write, they would, as always in such cases, praise us for the right position, and not be hysterical about the Great Oblom in the North, which is outlined for them.
  18. fenix57
    +1
    7 January 2013 14: 16
    alekSASHKA-36,
    Correctly. STAKE MATTERS and BAST. angry
  19. +4
    7 January 2013 15: 37
    I'm going to sharpen the things ....
  20. fenix57
    0
    7 January 2013 15: 56
    volcano, Well, they’re preparing a brigade, sharpening the milestones. Victory is ours! drinks
  21. 0
    7 January 2013 16: 19
    It seems that by 2048 a very powerful fleet should be kept off the coast of Antarctica.
  22. +5
    7 January 2013 17: 14
    Joking as a joke, and with the end of the Antarctic Treaty (even if it is considered a formality and a piece of paper), a dangerous precedent may arise. And it will be that neutral and contractual zones and territories as such will cease to exist ...
    Moreover, this precedent may well spread (and most likely will spread!) To other "treaty" zones. They are so far out of direct reach of mankind. This is for now ...
    Yes, I mean the so-called. "celestial bodies" (planets, their satellites, etc.), which are still considered "neutral" and "common". The only question is - for how long? ..
    In my opinion, already now we need to think about how to preserve the current "status quo" and how to prolong the operation of this treaty. If this is not done, then as Captain Zeleny used to say (one of the characters in the movie "The Mystery of the Third Planet"):
    -Good it will not end...
  23. zen1963
    0
    7 January 2013 18: 11
    Our main enemies are not America, but Putin, Medvedev, Serdyukov and Makarov. It is they who, with their "reforms", are destroying the country. Why did they close the Zhukovsky Air Force Academy? to introduce the best engine for the TU-160-NK-93? Loot is being plundered for themselves. Here are our enemies. We need Shoigu! Will we ask him to agree to become president?
    1. -2
      8 January 2013 14: 50
      The country was destroyed not by Putin and Medvedev, but by Gorbachev and Yeltsin. You need to know your latest history. Serdyukov is just a good thief, but he didn’t ruin the country, but only began to carry out his thief’s reforms. They stopped him in time, otherwise he would have ruined something. But don’t worry about Shaigu, let him run after Putin, we will vote for him, many people like him.
  24. +1
    7 January 2013 18: 41
    In order to make a claim for something, you must be able to hold on to something in any scenario. Then there will be no disputes about Antarctica. Several "Loshariks" are on constant combat duty in Antarctica and you don't need to take a steam bath. Sincerely.
  25. +1
    7 January 2013 20: 01
    Good article!
    "and therefore the Convention on the Status of Antarctica is just a paper on which any of the signatory states, if necessary, can put an end to it, referring to" special circumstances ". - it's hard not to agree with this!
  26. +1
    7 January 2013 21: 32
    It is surprising that in the United States a map of Antarctica with traces of George Washington's treads was not found ... Yes, yes, it’s strange why they haven’t found yet bully
  27. slava.iwasenko
    +1
    7 January 2013 21: 58
    It wouldn’t hurt us to hurry with Antarctica recourse
  28. +1
    8 January 2013 00: 23
    In 1988-89 I happened to work in Antarctica as part of the 33 SAE airfield detachment. Japanese "scientists" flew to visit us from the Shiraze icebreaker. We remember the funny jackets made of natural plastic.
    But the icebreaker itself was more memorable. It seems like nothing special, especially since ours just a year ago launched the newest for those times R / V "Akademik Fedorov". However, there is a difference between them: "Fedorov" is assigned to the Research Institute of the Arctic and Antarctic, and "Shiraz" is part of the Japanese naval self-defense forces ...
    And in 2008 the Japanese built a new "Shiraze". The Arctic was fond of this; in 2010-11 I just did not get out of here.
    Here is such a self-defense ..
  29. 12061973
    -1
    8 January 2013 06: 44
    the site, with rare exceptions (such as waf, pimpled, 16, kars, professor) has turned into a bunch of morons, by now it’s okay, but people will judge you if reviews about the Baltic states, China, Japan, Israel are read by the Chinese, the Jews, that they will think about the Russians. Especially do not minus, I agree that the first person on earth was Russian, where without you.
    1. +1
      8 January 2013 15: 06
      And who are you yourself? It seems that you live in Russia. And morons, those who bow to the dollar, look in the direction of America and the West, are ready to sell their Motherland, just to fill their pockets with greenery and give a damn about our Russian people and their mentality.
      1. 12061973
        -2
        8 January 2013 16: 02
        this is approximately 80% of Russians and their point of view must be respected.
  30. +2
    8 January 2013 07: 03
    Quote: 12061973
    the site, with rare exceptions (such as waf, pimpled, 16, kars, professor) has turned into a bunch of morons,

    There are many Saites. Go to another.
    Quote: 12061973
    especially don't minus

    Minus must also be earned.
    1. 12061973
      -1
      8 January 2013 16: 07
      I like the analysis of military equipment, strategy, etc., but that Russia can be read and discussed once the homeland of elephants, then it becomes boring, and if you repeat halva it will not be sweeter.
  31. Anthrax
    -1
    8 January 2013 10: 25
    From this crazy article.
    Resource wars have recently become commonplace. What sets them apart is the irresistible desire of certain world players to gain access to the bowels of foreign countries, while motivating their invasion with the most exotic reasons: from the urgent need to introduce a Western model of democracy

    The Iran-Iraq war, the occupation of Kuwait by Iraq - there have been no more wars for resources over the past 50 years.
    And what kind of war under the pretext of establishing democracy?
    The author did not confirm his lies
  32. 0
    8 January 2013 15: 40
    Dear ANTHRAX, what war did you think was not for resources? All wars ALL go for resources, as Zadornov said - all for the loot.
    1. Anthrax
      0
      8 January 2013 18: 11
      Georgia-Russia.
      Gulf War.
      The times of Tamerlane have rarely fought for loot.
      And now it's your turn to lead a war over resources.
      Author means natural resources
      1. 0
        8 January 2013 19: 34
        Fighting for oil in the Persian Gulf, one of the clearest examples of resource wars.
        Russia-Georgia - the northern flank of the Middle East wars - here the struggle for the resources of the Caspian is ideally the creation of a transport corridor from the Caspian to the Black Sea through Azerbaijan and Georgia (recall the troubles with the Gabala tracking station).
        Quote: ANTHRAX
        And now it's your turn to lead a war over resources.

        ALL resource wars, call ANY war and I will try to say what resources are at stake.
        1. Anthrax
          -1
          8 January 2013 21: 35
          Uh, no, it’s easy to say what resources are at stake, just knock the clave with your fingers.
          Prove that the war with Iraq led an international coalition to seize Iraqi oil.
          Facts about who and how much oil was caught from the coalition countries for free.
          And about the resources of the Caspian, too, with facts!
          1. 0
            8 January 2013 21: 52
            Quote: ANTHRAX
            Facts about who and how much oil was caught from coalition countries for free

            It never happens, but control is the most.
            In Libya, French companies received about half of their hydrocarbon contracts.
          2. 0
            8 January 2013 21: 52
            What evidence do you need? Do I need to prove that Iraq is an oil-rich country? See who is developing Iraqi oil
            http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1254870 я просто прогуглил.
            About the Caspian - Nabucco - such a weighty argument, or do I need to prove the presence of oil and gas in the Caspian?
            1. Anthrax
              0
              8 January 2013 22: 49
              We look at who is developing Iraqi oil.
              Nabiarem in the search engine-Iraq Iraq tender.
              And what do we see?
              Gazprom Neft won the Iraqi tender. A group of companies, led by Russia's Gazprom Neft, received a tender to develop the Iraqi Badra oil field.

              The total oil reserves of the West Qurna-2 field are estimated at 19,9 billion barrels. The tender for the right to develop a super-gigantic oil field in Iraq was won by Lukoil in partnership with the Norwegian Statoil ASA.

              2.12.2009/18/32, Baghdad 24:12:XNUMX Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani said that contracts concluded with world oil companies over the past two days will help increase oil production in the country to XNUMX million barrels. in a day. Hussein al-Shahristani, Iraqi Ministry of Oil, Minister.

              Leading oil companies are fighting for the development of Iraqi oil.
              The Russians will develop deposits in Iraq.

              Two Russian companies have won tenders for the development of oil fields in Iraq.

              http://vkoforum.ru/showthread.php?t=3199
              A tender for oil concessions was successfully held in Iraq. The main winner, which received the right to develop the giant West Qurna-2 field, was the Russian company LUKOIL in a consortium with the Norwegian Statoil

              http://www.1prime.ru/COMPANIES/20091214/755533820.html
              A consortium of Bashneft (70%) and Premier Oil (30%) and the South Oil Company representing the interests of the Republic of Iraq signed an exploration, development and production (EDPSC) contract in Baghdad today at Block 12. This was reported by the press service of Bashneft.


              More details: http://sterlegrad.ru/newsrb/economics/35634-bashneft-i-premier-oil-budut-dobyvat
              -neft-na-territorii-iraka.html
          3. Anthrax
            0
            8 January 2013 22: 53
            Oil in Iraq is produced by 30-40 companies from 20-30 countries.
            All honestly, who in the tender won the Iraqi government and transfers the rights.
            Or did Russia and China also drive Saddam off the throne?
            And there are more American and Russian companies in Iraq than American
            1. 0
              8 January 2013 23: 04
              Here it is necessary to clarify who led the development before the war and on what conditions? To whom was the profit from oil before the war and after.
              The fact is that the war was for Iraqi oil, for resources.
              1. Anthrax
                0
                8 January 2013 23: 56
                Before the war, dictator Hussein controlled the profits.
                True, after the occupation of Kuwait, Hussein's profits diminished, the world announced a boycott of Iraqi oil.
                After the war, oil sales go to the Iraqi government.
                And here is how it for example disposes.
                The meeting between President Vladimir Putin and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki will be a landmark in a number of ways. The main and loudest will be the conclusion of contracts for the supply of weapons to Baghdad. The deal has been discussed in the press for about two weeks now. And now the final line is crossed: Iraq buys $ 4,2 billion worth of Russian military products.

                The package of weapons offered to Baghdad will include Pantsir-S1E anti-aircraft missile and cannon systems and Mi-28NE attack helicopters. "Pantsire" will be purchased 42 (according to some data, more consistent with the structure of the division, 48), helicopters - "about 30" (according to other sources, 36) machines. For such a set of equipment, $ 4,2 billion is a very, very generous amount.


                РИА Новости http://ria.ru/analytics/20121010/770793884.html#ixzz2HPpL8Y2Q
                So the fact that evil Americans entered Iraq to grab a freebie for Iraqi oil or grab a profit from its sale is nothing more than another lie of official propaganda.
                The facts refute this lie.
                1. 0
                  9 January 2013 00: 02
                  This is a distortion of the facts, the Iraqi government manages a small part of the proceeds.
                  1. Anthrax
                    0
                    9 January 2013 21: 54
                    Quote: Setrac
                    This is a distortion of the facts, the Iraqi government manages a small part of the proceeds.

                    I have cited the fact that the Iraqi government is self-inflicted by oil revenues
                    And the fact that only a small part of oil revenues is exclusively your speculation.
                    Here are some more facts about the budget of Iraq and its oil revenues.

                    The Iraqi government approved the budget for next year in the amount of 117 trillion Iraqi dinars, which corresponds to $ 100 billion.
                    According to Reuters, the estimate is based on the calculation that oil will average $ 85 per barrel. It is planned that the country will export 2,625 million barrels daily, said government secretary Ali Al-Alak.

                    According to him, the approved draft budget will be sent to the country's parliament within two days.

                    It should be noted that about 95% of Iraq’s budget revenues come from oil sales. Recently, Baghdad concluded a number of transactions with international companies in the hope of increasing oil production to 2017 million barrels per day by 12 from the current 2,95 million by XNUMX.

                    http://finance.bigmir.net/news/economics/8251-Budjet-Iraka-v-2012-gody-sostavit-
                    100 mlrd

                    And here is an interview with the Iraqi ambassador to Ukraine.
                    Is it true that until 2003 there were no mobile phones in Iraq?

                    Indeed, cellular communications were banned. And in order to use a fax or make a photocopy, you had to get official permission from the special services ... Three state television channels worked in the country. It was impossible to buy satellite dishes - they were also banned. Now the situation has changed dramatically. There are already more than one hundred independent newspapers and magazines in Iraq, only one state television channel and one state newspaper, and there are much more satellite channels than our neighbors in the region.

                    All this contributes to the influx of investment in our country, mainly from Turkey, Iran, South Korea, China and the United States. All contracts are concluded by tender. Large American companies work with us, we develop relations with our neighbors. For example, last year, trade between Iraq and Iran amounted to $ 11 billion. Our country has great prospects. But many people in the world, unfortunately, do not know about this.

                    For example, if in Hussein’s times the teacher’s salary was $ 4–5 per month, today it’s an average of $ 800 ... Iraq’s budget is $ 100 billion. This is a very impressive amount for a country with 32 million people (for comparison: Ukraine’s budget for 2012 is $ 49 billion - Approx. And if earlier 70% of the country's budget was spent on military spending, today most of the budget money goes to the needs of the people.

                    http://www.iraqiembassy.com.ua/main1/74-shorsh-xalid-said-irak-vozrozhdaetsya820
                    6.html
                    1. 0
                      9 January 2013 22: 47
                      No need to sculpt a hunchback here, I’m 35 years old and I know about Saddam Hussein not only from the State Department’s agitation, tomorrow you tell me how poorly the people lived in Libya, then in Syria, and then what? Justify another invasion of Russia?
                      Here is an excerpt from pedagogy
                      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Экономика_Ирака
                      The Iraqi government reserves a 25% stake in all fields where development contracts were awarded.
                      And this is in the region where the cheapest oil in the world! Yes, Iraq is just ripping off.
                      1. Anthrax
                        0
                        10 January 2013 00: 55
                        In Vick crap very often.
                        A 25% share is written. A link to the source is not indicated.
                        Source????
                        Iraq’s budget of $ 95 billion from petrodollars.
                        And this is the state budget.
                        This is twice the budget of Ukraine!
                        They also brought you which companies pump oil, how much money goes to the Iraqi state treasury.
                        If oil or the proceeds from its sale were to be sent by American companies or our Goebels TV would go to the Amer’s budget 24 hours a day, that would be cool.
                        And our propaganda about the specific distribution of funds from the oil export of Iraq is delicately silent.
                        And take the topic somewhere to the side.
                        Who cares how the people lived in the oil-rich Libya?
                        Spent Kadaffi on himself 70%, and the rest on the people or vice versa.
                        Most importantly, he was a dictator.
                        He shot demonstrations from machine guns, imposed sanctions against Russia against him, the Russian president called the Gaddafi regime illegitimate.
                        Now it’s clear that the onslaught of agitprop has intensified and this is not remembered.
                        So where is the bulk of Iraq’s oil tanks?
                        And are they at all?

                        To the snack.
                        An American oil company was sent from Iraq for building contacts with rebel Kurds.
                        And there are plans to shut down GazProm.
                        Relations between ExxonMobil and the Iraqi government deteriorated last year when an American company signed a series of agreements with the authorities of the autonomous Kurdistan to develop oil fields there. Official Baghdad forbids the Kurds to develop and sell oil themselves, bypassing the federal government. But they do it anyway, and Washington patronizes them.

                        Under pressure from central Iraqi authorities, ExxonMobil froze agreements with the Kurds, but in Baghdad they demanded that they be completely canceled. In April of this year, due to contracts in Kurdistan, ExxonMobil was not allowed to tender for oil fields in Iraq.

                        http://www.bb.lv/bb/business/10911/
                        In October this year, Nefte Compass reported that Iraq is considering the possibility of replacing ExxonMobil in West Qurna-1 with Russian companies, LUKOIL and Gazprom Neft were named as contenders, RBK reminds.

                        http://www.oilcapital.ru/company/185147.html

                        Another article from 2009 is old, but it shows how the Iraqi government and people from oil exports are growing.
                        Iraq oil revenues

                        August 10, 2009

                        Iraq's oil export revenues reach $ 20 billion since the start of the year

                        Cairo. Iraq's revenues from oil exports have reached about $ 20 billion since the beginning of the year, Jassem al-Amari, director general of the oil ministry's marketing department, told Aswat al-Iraqi agency today, stating that the data is as of August 1.

                        He noted that the country's income from oil supplies abroad has increased significantly since 2003 after the invasion of the Western coalition troops. So, six years ago, export earnings did not exceed $ 5 billion. In 2008, this figure reached $ 60 billion.


                        http://www.oilandgaseurasia.ru/news/%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%8B-%D0%B8%

                        D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%BE%D1%82-%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%

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                      2. Anthrax
                        0
                        10 January 2013 01: 08
                        There is full of objective, and not propaganda, information in dry business news.
                        About Iraq’s budget, Iraq’s oil production,
                        Russian oil industry forums are interesting to read.
                      3. Anthrax
                        0
                        10 January 2013 07: 39
                        This is how the payment for the services of oil companies in Iraq.
                        Not 75% to Gazprom and Lukoil, but the rest to Iraq.

                        Eight fields participated in the tender, as a result, only one deal was concluded: a consortium from British BP and Chinese CNPC International will develop the Rumaila field located in the south of the country (proven reserves - 18 billion barrels), receiving only $ 2 per barrel

                        Buyers of Iraqi oil today are Iran (100 thousand barrels per day, according to a bilateral agreement), China (about 90 thousand barrels per day, according to the Iraq-China contract for the development of the Al-Ahdab field, renewed in 2008) and Jordan ( 10 thousand barrels per day

                        Suffice it to recall that the provisions on the ownership of the country's resources and on the management of them in the most general form were included in the text of the current Iraqi Constitution in 2005 so that the Basic Law was adopted by citizens in a referendum.

                        http://www.ng.ru/energy/2009-08-11/15_iraq.html
                        Along with South Korean KoGas and Turkish TPAO, Petronas and Gazprom Neft offered $ 5,5 for each barrel of oil produced. The Kazakh company KazMunayGas also claimed to develop Garraf. Angolan company Sonangol has been declared the winner for the Najmah oil field, agreeing to a set level of remuneration of six dollars per barrel.

                        http://vesti.kz/index.php/econ/34270/
                        More details: http://vesti.kz/index.php/econ/34270/
                        Any use of site materials is allowed only if there is an active link to Vesti.kz
  33. serg1978
    +1
    8 January 2013 15: 56
    I do not share the author’s doubts that common sense will triumph (as well as opinions about what it is).
    Who will have more space grouping, aircraft carriers, cruisers, planes, tanks, guns, soldiers - he will discover Antarctica. I bet you.
    1. +1
      8 January 2013 16: 10
      And we also need people who are ready to live and work in the extreme north and south. there are very few such people: Russia, Canada, the dwarf states of Scandinavia.
      The development of Antarctica is a good school for those who want to explore other planets. Why such projects as Biosphere-2 and BIOS-3? Build a city in Antarctica.

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