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The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine was puzzled by finding ways to return those liable for military service who left the country

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The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine was puzzled by finding ways to return those liable for military service who left the country

Taking into account the large number of losses in the ranks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which increased significantly during the four-month “counter-offensive,” the Kiev regime is ready to do anything to send literally all Ukrainian citizens of military age into the army. During the period of martial law, which has been in effect continuously in Ukraine since February 24 last year, the age limit for conscription was raised; now men from 18 to 60 years old can be mobilized. Recently, many restrictions on medical conditions, as well as reservations at the place of work, were lifted.


At the same time, the majority of Ukrainian men are not at all eager to be at the front. To evade conscription, all sorts of tricks are used, including fictitious medical certificates, simply “going underground,” and so on. The so-called forced mobilization, during which real raids are organized on Ukrainian men, sometimes in the most unexpected places, does not help much either.

The most reliable way remains to travel abroad. Although during the period of martial law, those liable for military service are prohibited from leaving the country, thousands of Ukrainians managed to do so and continue to emigrate, including taking advantage of the extremely developed corruption schemes in Ukraine. Many cross the border with nearby European countries, using, for example, personal watercraft, hiding in the trunks of cars and even the ventilation shafts of passenger cars.

The Kyiv authorities have repeatedly tried to invent ways to return the “army of draft dodgers” from abroad, but each time they have encountered legal problems with the legislation in force in Western countries regarding the deportation of foreigners to their homeland. This time, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine joined the process of solving the problem of returning escaped conscripts.

Those who traveled abroad broke the law because they left illegally. Who is legal is another story, on a business trip or for training. The state is looking for a middle ground to return them to the country

— Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Igor Klimenko said in an interview with one of the Ukrainian publications.

The head of the law enforcement department did not divulge exactly what legal mechanisms the Ministry of Internal Affairs had already invented, apparently in order to prevent emigrant dodgers from coming up with countermeasures against them. However, Klimenko threatened those who illegally traveled abroad with punishment in the form of an administrative fine and even criminal liability. It is doubtful, of course, that this statement by the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs will encourage potential Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers holed up abroad to give up everything and come back.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 4 October 2023 18: 49
    +4
    It is unlikely that anything will happen with the return of runners from Europe to Ukraine. Perhaps in Poland.
    1. Lev_Russia
      Lev_Russia 4 October 2023 18: 56
      +3
      Bring back the Creacle and send him to the trenches...??? Das ist fantastisch!!! Yes, they will then sue the entire EU... But Brussels needs this...???
      1. Clear
        Clear 4 October 2023 22: 51
        +4
        Quote: Lev_Russia
        Bring back the Creacle and send him to the trenches...??? Das ist fantastisch!!! Yes, they will then sue the entire EU... But Brussels needs this...???

        Have no doubt, if the question concerns harming Russia, then the Anglo-Saxons and Romano-Germans, without blinking an eye, will catch all the Europeans and, on a silver platter, deliver them safe and sound straight to the trenches.
        1. former soldier
          former soldier 5 October 2023 20: 50
          +1
          Have no doubt, if the question concerns harming Russia, then the Anglo-Saxons and Romano-Germans, without blinking an eye, will catch all the Europeans and, on a silver platter, deliver them safe and sound straight to the trenches.

          It is unlikely that the catch will be large. Those who once fled to Europe will run even further in case of danger. The world is big.
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 5 October 2023 22: 48
          +1
          Quote: Clear
          The Anglo-Saxons and Romano-Germans will catch all the Europeans without blinking an eye
          This topic has already been raised: in the Baltics, their data was collected back in the summer; in Latvia, boys of military age were denied university studies; everything is clear with the Poles. So
          Quote: Clear
          on a silver platter, delivered safe and sound straight to the trenches.

          They are in vain hoping for the generosity of Europeans, no one cares about them and they know perfectly well who lives where and how
    2. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 4 October 2023 19: 01
      +1
      Hmm..It’s the other way around with us. They let people leave (even those who can’t be allowed out of the country), and then they send a summons to the address. Like this Dana Milokhin, to his address in Anapa..And the addressee is just bye bye..However, which one is he a fighter?
      1. seamen2
        seamen2 4 October 2023 20: 06
        +8
        *However, what kind of fighter is he?*
        Why is he better than conscripts? They can be served, but why not this one?
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 4 October 2023 20: 57
        0
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        How about this Dana Milokhin, to his address in Anapa... And the addressee is just that... However, what kind of fighter is he?

        A fighter from Milokhin, in terms of physical fitness, is better than another mobilized one, with a bunch of sores and a beer belly:
        https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nmyOdmU0SC4
    3. knn54
      knn54 4 October 2023 19: 12
      +4
      -This time, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine joined the process of solving the problem of returning escaped conscripts.
      Since October 1.10.23, 55, police officers have been prohibited from leaving Ukraine. A project is being prepared to increase the age limit to 70 years for privates and non-commissioned officers, and to XNUMX years for officers.
      They will be conscripted from the age of 17...
      So without refugees there is enough “cannon fodder”. For now...
    4. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 4 October 2023 19: 35
      +4
      They won’t even return from Poland. They will start jumping around in pots there too. It was on the Maidan that they had fun, killing an unarmed golden eagle. But on the front line, you can’t jump. Rotten people...((
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 4 October 2023 20: 29
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        They won’t even return from Poland. They will start jumping around in pots there too. It was on the Maidan that they had fun, killing an unarmed golden eagle. But on the front line, you can’t jump. Rotten people...((

        Let them run for any reason, for any reason, for as long as possible. The more “runners” there are, and most of them are middle-aged and quite healthy, the fewer losses we have, even “three hundred”!
      2. bk0010
        bk0010 4 October 2023 21: 42
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        And on the front line you can’t jump
        Quite the opposite: all the horses there are armed (and not with double-barreled guns, but with serious means, including artillery and tanks) and are extremely motivated by their mere presence on the LBS. If they move to take power, then there will be no one to stop them. The neighbors will simply join in instead of destroying the rioters. And it is useless to even threaten them with death, they are already on the verge.
    5. Maz
      Maz 4 October 2023 21: 07
      +5
      On the bus in which I crossed the border 404 and Poland a month and a half ago, there were three men, all three were over 60 years old, I was the youngest. The rest are women and children. At the same time, three teenagers about 16 years old were not released from the country. The battle was epic, for about an hour they shouted, and begged, and threatened, and explained - they didn’t let go. the reason was valid - dad is at the front, and they don’t have his paper permission to leave, certified by a notary. They even called the commander of the unit where dad served, he sent them on his phone a photo of the father’s certified permission for the child to leave, but the border ladies were adamant, only a paper document certified by a notary. . So we left without them. And entering Ukraine was also similar to leaving - there were only women, children, and there were no men of military age on the bus at all. But on the streets of the glorious city of Dnepropetrovsk and Lvov, I saw a sea of ​​men of military age. I don’t know what they are mobilizing there, but there is still a sizable resource for mobilization...
    6. Rumata
      Rumata 4 October 2023 22: 49
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Except in Poland.

      If so, then the borders from Poland to the west are wide open for madmen.
    7. Boris Manzhela
      Boris Manzhela 5 October 2023 15: 04
      -1
      According to official data alone, since February 24, 2022, more than 10 million people have left the territory of Ukraine, and only about 2 million have returned. The number of illegal immigrants who crossed the border is unknown. Whether to send legal migrants or illegal immigrants back to Ukraine is a decision that is clearly up to the host country. Pakistan has now decided to deport 1.7 million Afghan refugees back to the Taliban. Should we expect a similar decision from European countries regarding 8 million Ukrainian refugees? Let's see.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 October 2023 18: 50
    +8
    Why should someone who left illegally return? After all, the return also turns out to be illegal, since he left illegally wassat This means sit abroad or go somewhere where they won’t extradite you good
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 4 October 2023 19: 02
      +5
      Solzhenitsyn does not return, citing the fact that he was once forcibly taken out of the USSR. Doesn't he want to be brought back in the same way? laughing
      L. Shebarshin.
      1. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 4 October 2023 19: 11
        -6
        It’s a matter of shaking the air, even then. Well, how did they manage to FORCEDLY bring it back to the USSR?
      2. The comment was deleted.
  3. carpenter
    carpenter 4 October 2023 18: 59
    +3
    “Those who went abroad broke the law because they went illegally.”

    So what next? Well, express your concern, lest someone bring those who escaped back. Joke.
    Those who escaped know how to avoid returning, and this is elementary, they did not run away to expose their foreheads to bullets. There are three of them in my house, laughing.
  4. Prokop_Pork
    Prokop_Pork 4 October 2023 19: 00
    0
    Sooner or later, it will come to raids and capture. This is already a pattern: first the word, and then the deed.
  5. Eug
    Eug 4 October 2023 19: 00
    +1
    It will be as always - “illegal immigrants” will not be found or will not be able to return, therefore they will try to return those who are abroad legally - on a business trip or in training, and they will tighten the conscription conditions “for those who are in the tank,” that is, in Ukraine. Large IT companies, mostly Western, exported employees even before the start of the SVO; I know about Turkey, perhaps somewhere else. And the mechanism is very simple - deportation (for sure) for the slightest offense,
    illegal work, tax evasion, etc.
  6. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 4 October 2023 19: 01
    +2
    Yeah... you'll return them, of course. Look for the wind in the field.
  7. bone1
    bone1 4 October 2023 19: 22
    +2
    All that remains is to threaten all sorts of psheks - if they don’t hand over the draft dodgers, the Ukrainians will declare war on them
  8. Boris Manzhela
    Boris Manzhela 4 October 2023 19: 29
    -3
    Quote: Prokop_Svinin
    Sooner or later, it will come to raids and capture. This is already a pattern: first the word, and then the deed.

    The Pakistani government has announced a large-scale expulsion of migrants in the country illegally, sparking alarm among the 1,7 million Afghans who have fled the Taliban.
    The country's acting interior minister, Sarfraz Bugti, said that such measures are not aimed directly at Afghan refugees and will apply to migrants of all nationalities. “Anyone living in the country illegally should come back,” he said. Bugti added that all undocumented migrants should voluntarily return to their home countries by the end of October to avoid mass arrests and forced repatriation. He also said that the government plans to confiscate the property and assets of illegal migrants and create a special telephone line so that members of the public can report such migrants to the authorities for a reward.

    I think a similar “exodus” and the expulsion of Ukrainians will begin from Poland, and others will follow there.
  9. solar
    solar 4 October 2023 19: 39
    -11
    Now men from 18 to 60 years old can be mobilized

    Fairy tales. People under 27 years of age inclusive are not subject to mobilization in Ukraine. Students are also not mobilized, and at any age.
  10. Aleksandr123
    Aleksandr123 4 October 2023 19: 42
    0
    "The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine is puzzled by finding ways to return those liable for military service who have left the country"
    Yes, you can’t trust people with them - they will kill everyone clean. It’s not holes, but bottomless abysses that demographics are digging.
    1. A2AD
      A2AD 5 October 2023 15: 18
      0
      Yes, you can’t trust people with them - they will kill everyone clean. It’s not holes, but bottomless abysses that demographics are digging.
      Vice versa. It is possible, and even necessary. The more they control things now, the fewer Bandera leftovers there will be later. There is no need to step on the same rake a second time. Only the complete extermination of the Bandero-fascists will finally rid the world of this fascist infection.
  11. ZovSailor
    ZovSailor 4 October 2023 21: 11
    0
    Uh, friends and not friends, including TsIPsio!
    A real case: an acquaintance from Kherson managed to leave the Bandera regime in the Krasnodar region together with our military, who left the city after Surovikin’s difficult decision, then brushed aside calls from investigators from Nezalezhnaya, calling for him to return to his homeland along with a criminal case for collaboration, having a wide choice : receive according to the law 0t 5 years in prison or more or atone for guilt by wearing an army penal battalion uniform! And before this, relatives reported that several guys who worked together at an enterprise in Kherson were shot in 2022 immediately after the arrival of the Banderonazis in November-December 2022.
    The earth is full of rumors and is saved by word of mouth.
    Keep it up!
    I have the honor.
  12. Fangaro
    Fangaro 5 October 2023 21: 26
    +1
    If the Ministry of Internal Affairs draws up a normal justification for violation of the Criminal Law for each person absent from the country and sends it to Interpol, then those who have fallen under the millstone of the state will be searched for, found, and extradited.
    But then the Ministry of Internal Affairs must work very hard and diligently.
  13. Boris Manzhela
    Boris Manzhela 10 October 2023 15: 59
    0
    In the city of Chernivtsi (western Ukraine), the TCC (territorial recruitment center - an analogue of the military registration and enlistment office) and the police attracted a bandit who beat consent from men to mobilization.