The Hill: If Ukraine does not achieve a significant victory on the battlefield in 2023, then the peace treaty in 2024 will have to be signed on Russia’s terms

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The Hill: If Ukraine does not achieve a significant victory on the battlefield in 2023, then the peace treaty in 2024 will have to be signed on Russia’s terms

The major American publication The Hill published an article in which the author discusses the possible consequences of the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were unable to achieve success during their counteroffensive. The author of the material is American columnist Mark Temnitsky, who admits that significant problems may arise with the subsequent allocation of large packages of military and financial assistance to Ukraine.

The observer openly makes it clear that much more significant results were expected from Kiev than the “butting” in October at Rabotino and Verbovoy, and completely different results in the Svatovo-Kremenny direction, where the AFU rolled back all the way to Kupyansk.



An American journalist writes that statements that Ukraine should continue to be helped continue to occur. But overall, military and financial assistance is at risk. According to Temnitsky, if Ukraine is unable to achieve a significant victory on the battlefield by the end of 2023, then after that “the international community will put pressure on Kyiv to sign a peace treaty with Moscow in 2024.” At the same time, Temnitsky notes that in this case Ukraine will be forced to sign the agreement on Russia’s terms.

The observer cites as examples of problems with support for Ukraine the bill on financing Ukraine that was withdrawn by Congress from a single voting package. Let us remind you that the bill on financing the US government was passed without taking into account the allocation of aid to Ukraine. The Hill also recalls that a number of Eastern European countries, including Poland, have introduced a ban on the import of Ukrainian agricultural products, which also indicates significant friction on the issue of “solidarity with Ukraine.”
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    1. -5
      3 October 2023 18: 57
      Such a large publication. Circulation 24 thousand copies. And the site is very popular. According to similarweb.com, in September 2019, the site received about 50 million unique visits every month, and it was one thousand two hundredth in the world ranking.
      1. +8
        3 October 2023 19: 01
        They don’t judge by circulation; the yellow press often has the largest circulation.
        1. +1
          3 October 2023 20: 12
          The yellow press can talk about anything. If they set such goals that are unrealistic in advance, then they have a different goal - to depopulate the territory as much as possible.
      2. +13
        3 October 2023 19: 04
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Circulation 24 thousand copies.

        In 2023, count the printed circulation of the publication?)) Especially the American one... As one regular commenter used to say: hehe...
      3. +2
        3 October 2023 19: 20
        For information, it is important not for how many people write, but who writes. Sometimes a small comment contains more information than in all well-known and reputable publications. For example, I learned and warned about the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine back in December. Exactly from the comment. I flipped through a bunch of press then and there wasn’t a single hint. But you see what happened in the summer. True, the comment indicated the end of April-May.
      4. +2
        3 October 2023 19: 28
        hi
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Such a large publication.
        can also replicate nonsense. Ukraine will not achieve major victories in 2023, since it has spent its offensive potential and preparing a new one, with the accumulation of the required amount of support, is a matter of more than one month. Just as she will not sign any Treaties with Russia in 2024, unless some strong internal changes occur in her political life, for which there are no prerequisites yet. In any case, she will try to take revenge in 2024 and she will definitely be enough for another year, but for more... I’m not sure anymore
        1. +4
          3 October 2023 19: 39
          Quote: svp67
          hi
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Such a large publication.
          can also replicate nonsense. Ukraine will not achieve major victories in 2023, since it has spent its offensive potential and preparing a new one, with the accumulation of the required amount of support, is a matter of more than one month. Just as she will not sign any Treaties with Russia in 2024, unless some strong internal changes occur in her political life, for which there are no prerequisites yet. In any case, she will try to take revenge in 2024 and she will definitely be enough for another year, but for more... I’m not sure anymore

          I think that 2024 will be the year of your offensive operations.
          1. -2
            3 October 2023 19: 47
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            I think that 2024 will be the year of your offensive operations.

            For offensive operations we need an army of millions, and this is not yet in sight.
          2. +2
            4 October 2023 06: 56
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            I think that 2024 will be the year of your offensive operations.

            I’m not sure, but I would really like to... by sitting on the defensive, victories are not achieved... and territories are not returned
        2. -7
          3 October 2023 19: 43
          No one has ever set before Ukraine the task of achieving “major victories”, or conditionally capturing Moscow. The task was to inflict painful blows on Russia to the best of its ability, regardless of losses in people, which Ukraine is quite capable of doing at this stage. No one will “scream at the top of Ivanovskaya” about real tasks in the media; everyone always hid real plans during the war....
          1. 0
            4 October 2023 07: 15
            how they didn’t put it if they shouted from every iron that they would reach the Crimea by autumn
        3. +2
          3 October 2023 19: 44
          Quote: svp67
          unless some strong internal changes occur in her political life

          Internal changes in Ukraine will not affect anything; only changes in the United States can play a role here.
      5. 0
        3 October 2023 20: 11
        The Russian "Expert" has a circulation of 91 thousand
      6. +1
        3 October 2023 20: 14
        Well, the circulation does not indicate the reliability of their forecasts. I remember some at the beginning of the year even referred to some shaman that he predicted that in August 23 everything would end.
      7. 0
        3 October 2023 20: 19
        What is ISW?
        Sharashkin’s office, where there are a dozen “directors and managers” for appearances, but in reality there are a dozen or two employees. Before the SVO, they didn’t even know about it. And even now, with the exception of a few, Americans do not know about it. However, the rest of the American media replicate them and present them as the ultimate truth.
      8. 0
        4 October 2023 09: 50
        Why should we pay attention to circulation and ratings? This publication, moreover, is propaganda for the US Congress; it is all the more surprising that they write in such a vein, especially considering that the Democrats are now in charge in Congress.
    2. +3
      3 October 2023 19: 12
      well, just like at the races.....they bet on the wrong horse laughing
    3. +9
      3 October 2023 19: 16
      Sorry, no taboo vocabulary.
      Why is the site publishing some left-wing nonsense about some kind of negotiations?
      Only unconditional surrender!
      1. +3
        3 October 2023 19: 25
        Quote: Rumata
        Sorry, no taboo vocabulary.
        Why is the site publishing some left-wing nonsense about some kind of negotiations?
        Only unconditional surrender!

        Well, probably even to the greatest optimists among the editors of VO, a military victory that could lead the Ukrainian Armed Forces to surrender is not visible.
      2. +7
        3 October 2023 19: 30
        They can call this future agreement whatever they want, even capitulation, but the trick is that it will still only be a freeze of the conflict for an indefinite period, and from the remnants of Ukraine a militarized NATO bridgehead with a huge, trained, professional army will grow, which will be armed even more and will ready to go into battle at any moment. And this “gift” will be at our side all the time. Well, naturally, this will be presented to us as a Great Victory. IMHO. By the way, voices about openness to negotiations are heard only from our side, oddly enough.
        1. 0
          3 October 2023 19: 50
          Quote: al3x
          By the way, voices about openness to negotiations are heard only from our side, oddly enough.

          Well, because the other side dealt with everyone they considered representatives of the fifth column, but here we are all playing at democracy.
          1. 0
            3 October 2023 20: 43
            Quote: guest
            Quote: al3x
            By the way, voices about openness to negotiations are heard only from our side, oddly enough.

            Well, because the other side dealt with everyone they considered representatives of the fifth column, but here we are all playing at democracy.

            The difference is who is considered the fifth column where.
            We also sorted out the one that is the fifth for the government a long time ago.
        2. +2
          4 October 2023 00: 02
          a huge, trained, professional army, which will be armed even more

          You went a little overboard about the huge army. Where will it come from? The population has almost halved in two years, and with a new war in the future, I think few people will return. Demography has been undermined and will not be able to recover. I hope that the territory of the outskirts will also be significantly reduced due to the eastern, southeastern and southern regions. In addition, in order to maintain, train and arm a huge army, enormous funds are needed, which the outskirts do not have and are not expected to have. In order to pay off the debts into which the West has driven them, they need two hundred years, maybe more. Moreover, if the entire male population of military age is forced into the army, who will work then? Even if the West pushes finances (which I deeply doubt), someone must plow the fields, maintain the entire communal infrastructure, and do other men’s work. So there won't be any huge army. There will be all sorts of dirty tricks on their part, perhaps some kind of sabotage from under the radar. In short, we will have trouble, war is unlikely.
      3. -2
        3 October 2023 19: 42
        Quote: Rumata
        Only unconditional surrender!

        Well, this will be “on Russia’s terms”))) The main thing is that complacency is not turned on again and a very small part is left for those who are thirsty (Poland, Romania, Hungary). Then they won’t even dare to bark. Because the section will be based on the principle of “Weddings in Malinovka” - “Did I deprive myself?” )))
      4. +1
        4 October 2023 00: 02
        Surrender. And this is part of the negotiation process
    4. +5
      3 October 2023 19: 19
      The opinion of journalists is complete nonsense, if only because they do not make decisions.
    5. +1
      3 October 2023 19: 27
      The theses are funny in their presentation:
      expected much more significant results

      “The international community will put pressure

      peace treaty with Moscow in 2024

      on Russian terms


      in general, looking back now and drawing conclusions, I see that it is just an illusion and a fantasy.

      because for citizens of the Russian Federation, the ideal is complete surrender and 100% coverage of the territory, while in reality the picture will be completely different.
      as on other points, there is a clear difference in understanding the situation and reasons.
      1. +1
        4 October 2023 00: 05
        As a citizen of Russia, I don’t need full 404 coverage, and no one needs it. They are enemies and most of them are irreconcilable. What are they needed for?
        1. 0
          4 October 2023 12: 23
          Quote from DrMad
          As a citizen of Russia, I don’t need full 404 coverage, and no one needs it. They are enemies and most of them are irreconcilable. What are they needed for?

          Even an older pit bull can be retrained. You just need to find an approach and feed decently. I just wish, very, very much, that the authorities would first practice feeding us...
      2. 0
        4 October 2023 00: 13
        for citizens of the Russian Federation - the ideal is complete surrender and 100% coverage of the territory

        Let me disagree with you: complete surrender - yes, 100% not coverage, but control of the territory, and the western regions can be given to those who wish under certain conditions.
        1. 0
          4 October 2023 12: 16
          Quote: Poplar
          Let me disagree with you: complete surrender - yes, 100% not coverage, but control of the territory, and the western regions can be given to those who wish under certain conditions.

          What are you, such and such a son, squandering state lands?! So you won’t get enough of any volosts! A lot of blood was shed for Chervona Rus', both human and canine: in the 41st regiment of border guards in full force fell in battle with the invaders, dogs fought nearby - the Nazis pissed in horror. The locals are still taking care of the graves and the monument... Are you going to give up these lands?!
    6. +3
      3 October 2023 19: 58
      What is the use of the agreement, Ukraine still does not fulfill the terms of the agreements, she put the bolt on it. Minsk agreements. Moreover, the Americans also rule there.
    7. +4
      3 October 2023 20: 09
      the peace treaty in 2024 will have to be signed on Russia’s terms

      They interpret it incorrectly, and quite deliberately. No peace treaty - complete and unconditional SURRENDER of the fascist Ukrainian-American regime!!!
    8. 0
      4 October 2023 12: 08
      Negotiation?! It’s a pity that you can’t speak Mongolian here, they’ll ban you... On the negotiating table, first of all, I would carefully place photographs from the Avenue of Angels and a photo of the Russian captain in the fire... am

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