Western media: The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to find out from NATO generals in Kyiv what tactics to use if the counteroffensive continued

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Western media: The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to find out from NATO generals in Kyiv what tactics to use if the counteroffensive continued

Western media resources write that the Ukrainian command, during a recent visit of senior NATO officials to Kyiv, asked them for options on what tactics to follow when carrying out a further counter-offensive. Let us remind you that today, October 3, the Ukrainian “neumovir counter-offensive,” so to speak, turns exactly 4 months old. During this time, the number of irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to exceed 80 thousand people. Ukrainian troops suffered the greatest losses in manpower and equipment in the Zaporozhye direction.

It is reported that the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to get an answer from the Chief of the General Staff of the British Army, Tony Radakin, to the question of what to do with further tactics and whether it was time to thoroughly move on to defensive actions.



The Western press does not write what exactly Radakin answered to Zaluzhny. However, it is quite clear that the West will not allow the Ukrainian armed forces to completely abandon attempts to conduct assault operations. That is why the topic is being discussed that already in October the Ukrainian Armed Forces may try to launch a new attempt at a counter-offensive - with the goal of seizing the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, in order to then use it both as a springboard and as an option for blackmail (for a second, nuclear).

Let us recall that previously the Ukrainian Armed Forces used various tactics. These included attacks by large forces (especially at the first stage of the counteroffensive), and actions by small assault groups where Western intelligence identified certain shortcomings in the defense of the Russian Armed Forces. It was also a return from the second tactic to the first, plus the tactic of massive use of artillery with Western cluster munitions. However, none of these combat tactics allowed the Ukrainian Armed Forces to achieve the goals that were voiced before the start of the counteroffensive. Now the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is waiting for advice from Western supervisors on how to deal with the counter-offensive in the future.
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    1. -2
      3 October 2023 11: 14
      Let them ask the long-dead SS general who commanded the tank army at Lake Balaton. He knows, and he knows how it ended. True, that’s a completely different story..
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      2. 0
        4 October 2023 11: 28
        It is reported that the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to get an answer from the Chief of the General Staff of the British Army, Tony Radakin, to the question of what to do with further tactics and whether it was time to thoroughly move on to defensive actions.

        Interesting things are happening in Ukroreich! Namely.

        The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine prohibits gathering more than 3 soldiers in the rear and at the front, because they are afraid that Ukrainian military personnel on the ground will conspire among themselves to gather - and go to Kyiv!
        And then who can the local command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine trust? Apparently, only to foreign mercenaries!
        And who then will supply these foreign mercenaries to Kyiv in the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front - at least for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, at least for the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

        This is, in fact, one of the main questions from the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the head of the General Staff of the British Army, Tony Redakin! Question for London and NATO!
    2. +1
      3 October 2023 11: 17
      In fact:
      The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to find out from NATO generals in Kyiv what tactics to use......
      ......so that the cash flow does not weaken and the supply of weapons does not decrease.
    3. +3
      3 October 2023 11: 19
      It’s high time for them to instruct the NATO generals themselves, although it’s certainly more profitable to cave in and the failures of the offensive will be blamed on someone else...
    4. +1
      3 October 2023 11: 19
      what to do with further tactics and whether it’s time to thoroughly move on to defensive actions.
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine have not yet learned that the razors cannot advise anything good in tactics and strategy. They are specialists in provocations and striking from behind the scenes. So it seems that Zaluzhny has been knocking on the threshold of Zelensky’s office for a long time, demanding his order to switch to defense, and it seems that this issue has already been resolved. Or is consulting with the Anglo-Saxons the first order of business for a Ukrainian general? And there will be someone to turn the arrows to in case of another failure.
    5. 0
      3 October 2023 11: 20
      It seems that the Ukrainian strategists have run out of ideas and want to shift responsibility for the future to the owners.
    6. -1
      3 October 2023 11: 24
      Western media: The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to find out from NATO generals in Kyiv what tactics to use if the counteroffensive continued
      . They hope that foreigners will teach them, help them and... something else.
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    8. 0
      3 October 2023 11: 29
      Now the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is waiting for advice from Western supervisors on how to deal with the counter-offensive in the future

      It’s not looking for advice, but for a removal of responsibility.

      PS From the photo: the locking hinges on the hatch are impressive.
      Incentives for victory. good
      1. 0
        3 October 2023 15: 49
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke


        PS From the photo: the locking hinges on the hatch are impressive.
        Incentives for victory. good

        You won’t believe it, exactly the same loops were on the turrets of the great and invincible Tigers.
    9. 0
      3 October 2023 11: 30
      The topic is being discussed by sharks from the yellow press. It is clear to General Staff officers that Ukraine will lose, both then and now.
    10. +1
      3 October 2023 11: 41
      what tactics to use if the counteroffensive continues

      Tick ​​while there is someone and where, otherwise you all are Pistorius!
    11. 0
      3 October 2023 12: 23
      Wow, friends and not friends!
      It is difficult to judge whether there was such an appeal or, as usual, it is an invention of journalists of the False West in order to show the intelligence, honor and conscience of the modern era in the person of super tacticians and strategists of modern warfare, namely, generals and other admirals of different genders. Throughout the entire North Military District, including the much-advertised counter-offensive, everyone became convinced of the genius of NATO's offspring - ne nato!

      Again evil spirits here and there
      Tightens the muscles.
      So the boilers will be new
      Don't fight the Russians!
      Why are you in trouble?
      Hollywood foreheads
      The course of the battle is predetermined
      Don't fight the Russians!

      We warned - don't let them interfere!
      We can repeat it for those suffering from Alzheimer's in Geyrop and ShsA!
      I have the honor.
    12. 0
      3 October 2023 12: 29
      What is there to push from empty to empty space? And so it is clear that the alliance only needs an offensive by the Ukrainians. There is no other option. There was no need to raise the string bag high in front of the Russian, then everything would be fine.
    13. +2
      3 October 2023 12: 38
      The Ukrainian Armed Forces have more combat experience. Why would they ask NATO officials for tactics?
      1. 0
        3 October 2023 14: 14
        It’s not a matter of combat experience, but of cash flows, from which Ukrainian generals have considerable income, and flows of weapons, some of which can be sold to the left. This business is thriving there.
    14. +2
      3 October 2023 14: 02
      Poor things, we found someone to ask. It’s time to teach these idiots themselves. These strategists have already advised - minus a bunch of equipment and 80k trousers.))) I can advise for a fee - first you need to give everyone Litovkas and saws with axes. You need to start small, mow all the grass and uproot all the bushes. Then send young people (on the advice of the former minister) and grandfathers from 60 to 65, with hoes - to fight the damned Muscovite mines.)))) When both of them run out, send women, old women and children. Fewer and fewer mouths to feed.
    15. +2
      3 October 2023 14: 16
      Western media resources write that the Ukrainian command, during a recent visit of senior NATO officials to Kyiv, asked them for options on what tactics to follow when carrying out a further counter-offensive.
      So here the Germans should generally be ahead of the rest. After all, their “commanders” - Manstein, Kluge, Model, Hoth - are counteroffensive specialists - Operation Citadel, as an example. Again, Bush (not the President of the USA), and the same Model who replaced him, defense specialists (Operation Bagration)... Again, the same Model and Rundstedt with the other Manteuffels, Dietrichs and the like Zangens and Branderbergs, can tell how in the absence of aviation, you can beat the enemy. And the grandchildren of Montgomery and Eisenhower will tell how they successfully fought back, tearfully asking Stalin to quickly launch his offensive against the former masters of the Ukrainian Nazis. So there are enough “specialists” there... laughing
    16. 0
      4 October 2023 11: 38
      They do not know. The problem has no solution, since the superiority of the military potential and quality of weapons of the Russian Federation is quite obvious.
    17. +1
      4 October 2023 12: 04
      And Katz invites the monkeys to surrender! And everyone will be happy

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